The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Elle Yes or Elle No

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

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DraftKings, the crown is yours. I am delighted to see this face again so soon. I hope that she comes around all the time. Elle Duncan, someone at ESPN that Zaslow is not feuding with and has never said anything bad about. I wanted to talk to her because I've been negligent in this first hour of like this was, this was a bit of a devastating injury last night. I mean, not a bit of, like when everyone's watching the sport and the best player in it, Juju Watkins goes down with a knee injury and gets carried off the court,

March Madness becomes like, oh, ee, how am I supposed to talk about and feel about all that? That just stinks, that's just a body breaking down and I wanted to watch her win everything because I know she can. So anyways, Elle, thank you for being on with us. That's just a body breaking down and I wanted to watch her win everything because I know she can so anyways L Thank you for being on with us. And Yeah, the heartbreak in that how how did that go down last night? Well, it was it was really brutal

Probably TMI, but I was in the bathroom and you know, I'm still wearing my IFB We do have to take pee breaks and I had my IFB in And I thought I lost the broadcast because it was silent. And I was like, what's going on? And then all of a sudden, I started getting text messages. I'm like trying to furiously wash my hands. My producers like, get back to the studio. Juju just went down. It's bad. It looks really bad. And I was like, what? And so I run into the studio and you guys, the studio, which is normally, you know, especially with Shanae and Andrea is so joyful, so loud, like we're yelling, we're reacting.

It matched the silence of the Galen Center. It was like everyone was just sort of in a little bit disbelief. From what we do, from a professional level, it's devastating because it's Juju Watkins because we wanted this Elite 8 matchup rematch with Yukon because to your point, like she's going to be the National Player of the Year and they're ahead of schedule. Um, on a personal level, it's devastating because of everything that Juju has given to the game, how hard she's worked choosing to go to a USC program that a lot of people scratched their head. Like why they, they haven't been relevant since Lisa Leslie. And she strapped her city on her back like she made l a a basketball town again and she just is to see that happen in the way that it happened to see someone who is

so famously unemotional like she puts up a thirty piece no emotion like that to see her screaming in pain and riding on the ground it was horrific and devastating and it absolutely changed the entire tenor of the tournament it did okay So you're offering a lot of context there that I want to follow up on Because of how this story hurts the connection specifically to usc walk us through the history of all of that Culturally generationally what that program means to to those people and what it means to have this player, this this hope go down like that. Yeah, I mean, she has like a giant her she's a giant mural in the city of L.A. When she chose USC, she actually on her signing day or her announcement day,

whatever you call it, she actually came on Sports Center and talked to me. And I've in a very soft way kind of asked her that same thing that I just said, which is like, OK, I mean, I get it. You're from LA, but like you're the number one prospect in the country. Everyone wanted you. Why not go team up with Yukon? Why not go to South Carolina? And she was so adamant that her entire goal was to in her own backyard, make basketball

relevant again, to make that USC program a powerhouse like it was in the early 90s before she was born, you know? Like she wasn't born when Lisa Leslie was doing what she was doing at USC. And when we talked with Lindsay Gottlieb last year at the final four, after they lost to Yukon in the elite eight, I was like, I know that you knew Juju was a prize, but did you know that she would get your program here

this quickly? And she was like, no, I didn't know it would happen so fast. She thought it would take some time and maybe some transfers that would get them there. And she has made, I've talked to LA friends who were like, LA is buzzing with basketball at a college level, right?

You're always gonna have the Lakers and sometimes the Clippers, but at a college level, with UCLA being a powerhouse again, and with USC and Juju, she's the face of basketball. And she has strapped that city on her back and they love her so much for everything that she's done. I mean, USC has become the place to go watch games.

We see every super megastar. We just saw Jaden Daniels there. It's just incredibly disappointed to see it go down like this. You lose on the court, you get out battled fine, but to see their chances suffer greatly because of what happened is just, it just sucks. Can't come up with a better way to-

I believe that's a good way to clip that there. It just sucks. I can't come up with a better way to say that and then she cuts out. But that's a good way to describe it. We could use a lot of words, but those two work. Yeah, Elle, you talked about USC's chances. I want to get to that in a second,

because they are still a one seed. And Kiki Iriafen, obviously, is one of the best post players in the country, and she had a really great game after Juju went out last night. But this is unfortunately such a common thing in women's sports to see knee injuries. It's happened to other great players

right before the tournament. Liz Kittley comes to mind, Olivia Miles obviously, and it really impacted those both of those teams chances of winning a national title. What do you think will happen next? I mean there's obviously a tough matchup in the sweet 16 round for USC now against a really good Kansas state team that just got some of their players back from health stuff. So do you still see them making a deep tournament run? So I do think they can beat K-State. We talked about this yesterday. Like what does this USC team look like without Juju

because they haven't had to experience that. She averages 35 minutes a game. So they basically played five minutes a game without her. And so I do think it's going to force, I mean, listen, it's still USC. Like they still have Talia Van Olaffen who transferred there, Kiki Iriafen who you mentioned had a career high.

And I do think that there was definitely a galvanizing sort of moment for them yesterday and having her back. We heard Lindsay Gottlieb talk about that. But ultimately, like to be honest with you, Jess, like I didn't think that USC was going to get past UConn with Juju, just because, like, if you've watched UConn play the last two games, like, I'm not sure anybody's going to beat UConn if they keep playing that way. But I do see

them getting to an Elite 8. It just obviously changes the entire scope of that matchup if Juju's not in it. They're gonna have to lean on everybody else, but she's gonna be national player of the year for a reason. And we saw what happened for Yukon when Paige was out. I do think really quickly too though, like life sometimes is really interesting. The ironic symmetry of on a day that Paige Becker's played her last game in stores and tied a career high after what she's been through

and her devastating injuries too, that we then see the same exact thing happen to Juju. Like it just, I hope that that is in some way inspiration for Juju that you can suffer these really great setbacks, but then you can come back better than ever. I mean, Paige hasn't missed a beat and she's gonna be the number one overall pick, but it's, you know, I don't see them don't see them making it past, uh, Yukon either

way, honestly. I was about to say the same thing, actually, that the pay going from Paige giving the interview at in stores and then Gino talking about Paige's legacy. And then it happened like five minutes into the next game. It was, it was the last game of the, of the second round. It was really kind of strange to see. So I mean, obviously, it's still early. We don't exactly know the nature of the injury. But like, you would say we probably will see Juju Watkins back 2026 2027 season.

Yeah, well, I mean, again, it really just depends, right? Like, for Paige Becker's when she tore the meniscus in her knee, it was in the summer. And so she did miss that entire season because of it. I don't know how USC is gonna play it. If there is any blessing, it's that it happened in early March and maybe not in the summer

as they were doing their off season training. I don't know if you say, let's medical redshirt her, right? Like she's only 19 years old. She's not eligible to go to the WNBA draft until she's 22 years old anyway so I don't know you certainly don't want to cause any long-term damage for someone who we believe is gonna be one of the greatest players of all time if she projects the way that she is now but yes I would say the getting used to a life potentially

without juju next season would be that would be you know that would be a fair assessment I'm wondering and I don't know if this is overly simplistic, but, uh, and, or reactionary because of whatever the emotion of the moment is. Uh, but what level of unsatisfying is this going forward or what needs to happen in terms of storylines to take the pall off of what had felt like a giant celebration and a coronation at a time where we know more of the women players than we do the men in college basketball. It's true. I tried to say this to someone last night. I was like, imagine if on the men's side, if they lost Cooper flag in the same way, right? Like it would change the enthusiasm for the tournament in some way.

The good news for us is that while Juju is one of the faces of women's basketball and will be national player of the year, we do still have really great storylines. We have Notre Dame who has the best back court in the country, finally sort of figuring it out and rounding into form. We have TCU, Haley Van List's story is amazing.

TCU's story is amazing. I know they're not like a major, they couldn't even field a roster. They were horrible. Now they're headed to their first sweet 16. People made fun of Hailey for choosing TCU. Like, wow, that's great. What a basketball powerhouse.

And to see her story, like that's still a story. We still have South Carolina, right? Like trying to go for, to be back to back champs for the first time since Yukon did it. And then we still have UCLA, like who is a huge program, again, sort of a return to prominence, a return to glory, if you will, looking for their first final four.

So if there is any blessing, is that this happened last night, it gives us a few days to compartmentalize and process. And then we sort of get to look ahead to the suite 16, which is still rife with storylines. Yes, like, did I want an elite eight that was gonna put up enormous numbers personally as someone that like benefits from that at ESPN?

Yes, but we do still have a lot of meat on that bone. I would like to, Elle, because I remember when soon after we met, you had mentioned that you had, that you loved my brother's artwork and that you loved what I did with my father. And we did CONO on Highly Questionable. And I'm just wondering if I can get you to play with us the game in honor of CONO, Elle Yes or Elle No? Elle Yes. Elle, okay, you're going to, okay, so Elle, no, you didn't- You know I'll put my name, Dan. in honor of CONO, L yes or L no. L yes.

L, okay, you're gonna, okay, so. You know I'll put my name, Dan. You know I love to put my name. Yeah, but you didn't even play it right off the top. If I said L yes or L no, you can't say, hell yeah, it's gotta be L yes. Like that's. L yes. Thank you. There it is.

All right, L yes or Elle no, ripped jeans. Ooh, I actually do like ripped jeans. I'm into them, like my kids have ripped jeans. I think they look cool. So how do you play the game? Elle yes to the yellow pants that Elle was wearing the other day that I texted her about. Elle, those were phenomenal pants.

Thank you, they're very bright. Not ripped jeans, but I like them. You guys aren't playing the game correctly. I just said Elle yes to were phenomenal pants. Thank you, they're very bright. Not for chase, but I want them. You guys aren't playing the game correctly. I just said Elle yes to her yellow pants. Elle oh yes. Elle yes or Elle no to women empowerment. Elle yes. I feel like it's a no-breaker.

Okay, excellent work playing the game incorrectly. But Elle no to Billy. It's gotta be right on the line. It can't, it can't. Elle yes to, or Elle no to Billy. It's gotta be right on the line. It can't, it can't. L yes to, or L no to racism. Like what, what are you doing? Dan, L no. Come on, Dan.

Oh, I'm sorry. Although lately in this country, L no. Kind of up for debate. Not putting your cart back in the cart corral at the grocery store. L yes or L no? L no, it requires no work, it's so rude. Like you're potentially damaging people's cars.

Just you've been walking around a grocery store, what is it, I live in Connecticut, it's freezing, it's like three degrees and I will still take it to the thing or I'll take it to the front. Like that's so rude and not considerate for everybody else. Irish goodbye, L yes or L no? L yes. Come on, like I've reached the age where I'm like,

do I need to say bye to everyone in the room and make it a whole production? And no, I'm just gonna ghost you. Bringing a Bluetooth speaker to the gym and playing your music out loud, L yes or L no? Okay, as someone that literally carries my little JBL speaker everywhere she goes and forces people to listen to my music,

I'm still a hard L no, because people need different things when they work out and it's not necessarily your trap music. Signing your emails, cheers. L yes or L no. L no, although the email sign off gives me a lot of anxiety. I never, you know, sincerely or appreciate you or I just kind of do with thanks,

but L no to the cheers. Sending your food back at a restaurant. L yes or L no. L no. I've worked at too many restaurants. I know what they can do to the food in the back. And also like, apart from having an allergy to it, I went out to eat with a girl one time

who sent her burger back because it came with lettuce on it. Take it off and keep it moving, like, L no. Buying a woman a drink that she didn't ask for, L yes or L no? L no, and ladies don't ever take that drink because you don't know what's in it, no. Dan Hurley. Ah, as someone that needs people to wild out for my job,

L yes to Dan Hurley and all of the many personalities he has. Oh, I trapped you. I think I trapped you. L yes or L no to LSU upsetting NC State. Ooh. Tractor. I'll say L yes. I'll say, oh, that's tough.

I'll say L yes just because they have the experience of being there before, so does NC State, obviously. But I put their big three probably above NC State. L yes or L no, Jimmy Butler sticks it to the heat tonight. Ooh, L yes. Yeah, L yes. I think he's gonna have his Haley Van Lith game, you know, where he's just like, you didn't want me.

I see it. L yes or L no to traveling with your own bar of soap in a container. Yeah, L no. Again, unless you have like some kind of severe and sensitive skin thing, when you put the soap in the container after it gets wet, it becomes a disgusting Petri dish of smush and it's just- El! What, just use the- no, use the soap at the hotel!

They're fine, like it's fine. El, like, I want my soap. All right. I like my brand of soap. I don't want to rely on the hotel that, that, that I got set up in, in Norman, Oklahoma, or in Athens, Georgia. I want my soap. I bring a soap dish. What's your soap? Like what's your soap?

The one my wife buys for me. Okay. Well, unless it's fancy soap, it's not any better than the crap they have at the hotel, guaranteed. The reason I said I trapped you is because you love the content of Hurley, and so I'll leave you with this. Okay.

L yes or L no, Malky. Gotcha, gotcha. You completely trapped me. I'll say, same thing. I like all of the histrionics and she's so memeable and she's unapologetically herself. So I guess, you know, Ellie, yes to all of- You're gonna separate it.

You're gonna separate her personality. And unapologetically- I'm gonna be here at the final four, Dan. It's so hard. I won't have to see Dan Hurley so, yeah, yes, I love it. Okay, no, I did something unfair to her, but I'm actually curious how she navigates the labyrinth

in these political times as someone who has strong opinions. She doesn't navigate it. Well, no, I mean, yeah, like, but the monkey thing is hard because you can respect her and also like be wildly put off by a lot of other things she does. I would say that yes, there is, I have a great respect for her as a coach

and also as a former player and she gets the best out of her girls. And, you know, I never played for her. If you were to believe a lot of the things that came out, that's problematic, but ultimately, like I don't know her personally. I do think that, you know, she's a historic type of figure in this sport.

So, and I love, I love LSU, like I love her girls. So it's also hard for me because I think, you know, they love her and I love them. So by proxy, sure, yeah. But you do, you have to compartmentalize and that can be, I don't know her well enough to make a snap judgment on her, but just based on some of the things,

like, yeah, that feels, that feels. I had someone say that to me the other day. They were like, you picked Florida to win? I was like, yeah, because I don't know anything about men's basketball. I don't really watch. And they were like, oh, they're coach. I was like, yeah, because I don't know anything about men's basketball. I don't really watch and, and they were like, oh, you know, they're coach. I was like, what about their coach?

You know, and they were just, they're like, yeah, there's, there's some, there's some headlines. So I Googled and I was like, should I have chosen, you know, but like, ultimately I think they're a really good team. So that's kind of the journey. L yes or L no, the, the DAP that Mulkie gave that guy that one time coming out of the huddle. The DAP, does that, you talked about the clipboard or the real Dap? No, no, I'm talking about the real Dap where she's walking out of the tunnel and

there was a guy there and she Daps him up like very nicely. Yes or no? I mean, I'm into that. I really appreciate it. No, he ruined the game. He ruined the game. She hasn't seen the Dap. I know.

It tells me she hasn't seen the Dap. I know, but- I haven't. I know, but- Was it't seen the damn no but I haven't I know but that's an aggressive dad we need the video team to pull it okay but that would have been good but Dan she covers the league I love you see Tony I don't see I don't consume everything that happens to the league I do have three other jobs I pull up I pull up something that's classic Kim O'Kell don't get defensive here tone crazy tone I need you to go to the other jobs that he is. I pull up something that's classic from Kim Mulk. El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El, El,

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finds out you do sports for a living and then he's like, oh yeah, who won the 1937 home run dirty? No, Tony would never do that. Never. Tony? He said no to women's empowerment earlier. He did. God, man.

And he hates my dog all of a sudden. I don't know why. He's on myment earlier. He did. God, man. And he hates my dog all of a sudden, I don't know why. He's on my shit list. I don't have time for him this week. Elle was on fire there. We were soaring into the sky, and Tony decided at the very end to throw the ball off her face.

Just, hey, Elle, try and pretend that you've seen this thing I'm talking about. Elle, I'm sorry it ended that way. I will try to raise better broadcast professionals. Okay, we definitely ended on a high note. Can you just give me like one more for shits and giggles so that we can end on a high note? Because he ruined it so bad.

Okay, Elle yes or Elle no. Me bringing my dog to work that everyone loves. Oh, whoa. Elle yes. The long as it's not a, you don't work at a grocery store, right? You'll never get to go to a grocery store. Yes or no, me bringing my dog to work that everyone loves. Oh, whoa. Ellie, yeah. The long is it's not a, you don't work at a grocery store, right? You'll never get to go to a store. You're right, this is not a grocery store.

When we're good. Although someone should tell Gino and Jason that. Yeah. Elle, good seeing you. Thank you for being on with us. Always delightful. Please have me back. Love you guys, you're the best.

Thank you. Let's get to our sound. I feel really bad for doing that. Tournament. Why? I normally don't pick on Jason and Gino. I just had, just, I feel bad. And everybody out there laughing, man. I can hear the laughter through the walls and you feel like you've bullied them

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You really roared to life there. Like I haven't seen since back when you were prohibited from saying things that Zaslow doesn't want to hear. I was just trying to get honestly us to show Elle a video of Tony's jumper, but I unsuccessfully did that. I know, thank you for the help there, but you enjoyed that Tony made that drown.

You came to life. When Tony threw that anchor on the proceedings, my God, I haven't seen such life in you in years. I feel like he was about to hit us with a real Hooper's no, but we didn't get there quick enough. Billy loves nothing more than to... My family. Than to cat, now I believe that what you love

more than your family is seeing Tony fall on his face on Alley Oop. Oh here he comes. No, I fall on my face because something that everybody's seen on social media, the six people here haven't seen it. Okay, sorry. That's hard. So then why did everybody look at me so stupefied? Oh my god, I don't know what you're talking about. Well, it's the kind of thing if you're going to bring up,

you have to kind of be sure that the guest knows exactly what you're talking about. But I figured if you've seen it, you're online. If you've seen it, you're online. If everybody's seen it who's online, I figure the guest who covers the sport, who's also online and sees things about the sport, has seen it before. She probably saw it and forgot about it,

because it wasn't that big of a deal. If I tell you Kimokidep, you know what I'm talking about? I remember the video. Okay, thank you. But that doesn't mean that someone that covers the sport for a living, it's probably the 5,000th thing she'd think of when she thinks of Kimokie. You cover the sport also.

You cover the sport. You're right, L. Duggan is so dumb. Yeah, but I'm a sick person that's online a lot. Oh no. Like I don't cover the sport, I remember nothing. Whether you know the Dap video or not, doesn't mean like you're good at covering the sport. It's just like maybe it wasn't memorable to her.

Not what I said. Not what I said. My point is you're gonna feel that way. What are you talking about? You were like, she covers the sport. Cause she covers the sport, she knows what it is. That's all I'm saying. Well.

I feel like we can move on. I didn't say what. Zazzalil, what other weird things do you do? Yeah, I mean, how about, I thought Elle was gonna back me on that one. As someone who travels a lot, you want your own stuff. I mean, look at this, this is sensitive skin. I want my own soap, you know.

This is what happens when you shit on my dog. How do you feel about body wash when you go to a hotel? I mean, you have your own soap, but like, let's say something happens, heaven forbid you forget your bar of soap or whatever, and it's one of those body wash pumps that's in the corner, like affixed to the wall. That's another thing that's happening now. Before you walk in and you have your own little

shampoo bottle, your own little conditioner bottle, your own little bar of soap, and you know you say to yourself, I'm probably never gonna use these again, but they're just gonna toss them out. Let me just take these home in case of a rainy day. I run out of shampoo, conditioner, whatever. I have the little bottles from the hotel.

Now they attach them to the wall. You can't even take them home. They're like industrial size. Right. Yeah, but I bring my own soap. But if something were to happen, heaven forbid something were to happen or your soap gets lost or whatever, would you use the body wash? You're not a body wash man. As opposed to not using any kind of soap. Well you could go just buy another bar of soap I suppose. Nah, I'd use what they supply me.

Okay. Maybe it'll be all right. Didn't know if you're strictly a bar man or if you're a body wash man. I don't like how defensive Tony was. I don't either, now I feel weird. Okay. So here's the thing, okay? See, Tony's not wrong here

and I know why he feels alone, okay? Because nobody helped me? Oh, yeah, of course. Tone? You're making it better. Thank you. Tone. I'm doing that on purpose, yes?

Fine. You don't know whether to buy Tone or his Tone. No, I know when he says Tone, I know it's me. I know, I need to stop talking. No, it's not just that, okay? Because we're gonna reach into the underbelly of what's been happening around here between you and Billy.

I have nothing to do with what's going on today. I'm just sitting here talking to Zazz about soap. So the delight. I'm a dove guy. Really? Scent-free. I'm actually allergic to a fragrance called Linolule. Really? Yeah, I found this out last summer. I did one allergic to a fragrance called Linolule. Really?

Yeah, I found this out last summer. I did one of those patch tests on my back. And? It's in every product. Oh boy. I have to go scent free on every soap and shampoo and conditioner. Couldn't find a purple shampoo without fragrance in it.

Your life seems difficult. You can't eat anything. You can't use certain soaps. You're a woman. Dan's the one that can't eat anything. I'm a dove gal the way you are. I am just sent free and I can't have wheat, barley, or rye. Tony, this is the part that I found funny

about everything that happened there and that was wonderful, truly wonderful, including you being enraged by the fact that you're mentioning something that should be obvious to all of the people in this room, but you got no help and were left by teammates to feel like you were drowning by our ignorance when you're mentioning something that a million people in our audience would have seized on and will now support you because they'd be enraged

on your behalf that none of us went and grabbed your alley oop. Correct. And I feel it's because it was Kim Mulkey. If it was somebody else, all of a sudden, everybody would have jumped in and joined me, but it was Kim Mulkey doing something. Everybody's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Are we making this because Kim Mulkey is Kim Mulkey? Oh, who's who's who's who spoke first here? Jeremy came out of nowhere. Left field didn't didn't say left field is right Are you you're seriously you're gonna make this political right now today? You're making a political buddy

I don't know you just did it none of us did it We were having a good time laughing to you, and then you made it political. I mean whatever man. It's fine But like it's just a video. It's okay. We were all laughing How do you feel about as the, the shampoo conditioner combo bottle? Because that's, it can't be both. No, this head right here needs special treatment. Yeah. Rockin' any combos.

Wait, aren't you bald? Whoa. No, I can't grow hair. I shave on, it's my preference. I'm asking, I don't know. I've never seen your head before. I have hair, I shave it. It's. I don't know I've never seen I have hair I shave it it's like I can't grow any hair I shave it the hypothetical I threw out

there earlier was you can be emotional high Jimmy Butler shit is making everybody crazy are you if you could be magic Johnson or Michael Jordan who would you be? Like I had two heads like it was the dumbest question in the world Okay, so this is coming back now. You guys are just allowing everything to spill into the show I'm trying to move us. No, you're okay. No, I don't want to move along now. We're stuck here Okay, we're gonna stay here for a minute. Did you finish what you wanted to tell me by the way? No, Tony. I want to move along, now we're stuck here, okay? We're gonna stay here for a minute. Did you finish what you wanted to tell me by the way, or no? No, Tony, I want to-

Oh boy. No, you wanted to say something, I didn't know what was- Tony, I would like for you to tell us what you think here. Trap, don't do it. Because you believe, I didn't see this from your vantage point, you believe that that was't see this from your vantage point, you believe that that was Malky triggered.

I believe that everyone in the room is ignorant to the meme that you're talking about and it makes us, us, all of us, you must have felt alone with something that is fairly common knowledge. Absolutely, it's very common knowledge. You see it come across your timeline, whether it be on Instagram, on Reels,

on TikTok, on whatever, it's Kim Mulkie doing, yes, having an incredible no-look dap with a dude as she's walking into the tunnel waiting to go to a game. And it's an incredible dap by anybody's measure. There's a lot of people in this office that don't give good daps. And Kim Mulkie gave us sideways. Right here, Billy.

I'm going to do it. No, I mean, you're setting me up. I know I'm not going to do a good job here. OK, anyway, she does No, I mean, you're setting me up. I know I'm not gonna do a good job here. Okay, anyway, she does an incredible job and keeps it moving. You're just setting us up so the cyclone makes fun of me. Well, Dan. No, no, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no. Just slow everything down here for a second. But we have a new game to play. I don't wanna play that game right now. What? It's Marlin or Panther. Are you ready, Dan? game right now. What? I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want. I don't want.

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People were looking at me like I was crazy. Well, people are going off the A, net worth, B, greatest of all time, C, Air Jordan, Nike, like coolest shoes ever. I think a lot of people are going into the HIV. Of course. Space Jam. Well, I think that's a reason to not be Michael,

or Magic Johnson, but there's so many reasons why you'd wanna be Michael Jordan, that's all I'm saying. He's got age. But Magic Johnson, to me, looks a lot happier than Michael Jordan. I agree with you. He seems to be enjoying life a lot more than Michael Jordan. And Michael Jordan

had twins like a few years ago. Oh no, what an idiot. Yeah, I'm with you. Magic Johnson had his kids and they're all grown now, so now he's living the life. Oh, Zazzle, that's the dream, right? He's got AIDS. Love kids, happiest moments of your life.

Can't wait for them to get out of the house so you can go back to enjoying life. That's what I'm saying, man, I'm a few years away. Really? I'm almost at the dream. How close are you? I'm about to leave the house. I'm almost there.

How close are you? From both of them being gone, I am five years away. Okay, and what's the tactic? Do you try to tell them you really should go away? Like, you really got to, if you want to experience life, you should go away to college. That's how you'll find yourself. That's how you'll figure it out.

Is that what you're doing? Or are you just annoying them a little bit more to drive them away? No, they're going to be ready to go. OK, good. When the time is right. All right. And then it's all about me and my wife in the Zazzle mansion

Wow doing what we want when they change from mansion to manor When do you yeah? Yeah, I've always had a mansion. Oh because he said he said Zazzle man No, I mean I've never been there like the mere cats. No, no second house mansion. Okay So support I'm trying to figure out is the is the tactics support or is it annoyance of my children to get them out Of the house when the day comes? I think support's okay. Yeah. I try to set them up in the right place

and then they wind up being ready to leave. You don't want your child to not, you throw them out there. It's like you open up the cards or say go ahead, you're free. Yeah, like the dogs. No, they gotta be ready. Yeah, well that's the thing that I'm wondering.

Is if I push them too far, then they'll rebel against me, and then maybe that's not the effect that I wanted. It's not like we're leaving empowered, we're leaving out of spite, and now let me do something crazy. Feel like an important thing here is your kids have to respect you, but you also have to trust them. It's a two-way street, right?

I don't know, I've never had kids. I'm just thinking about my own parents. My daughters have started calling me my first name because they think it's hilarious. Oh, that's respectful. And I need to really put my foot down on here because they're three and one and I can lose control very quickly.

Your one year old's like, Billy. Yeah, my one year old repeat everything that my three year old says. Sometimes they'll say Guillermo to me. All right, so respect is something valued in your house. They'll say Guillermo Louis Gill and I'm like, whoa, hold on a second. This is funny and adorable, but we're getting close to the line here. So that's reading you like Chris and I'm like, whoa, hold on a second, this is funny and adorable,

but we're getting close to the line here. So that's reading you like Chris Cody treats his father. Basically, right? Well, not that poorly, no. Does he call his father Greg? He does, Greg calls his wife Kyle. Yeah, he does call his wife Kyle. That's not her name.

What do you mean? It's not her name, her name's Kristy, not Kyle. So why does he call her that? He's an idiot. I don't know, it's an inside joke that they have and then every once in a while he'll just call her on the phone unbeknownst to her and I'll just say, hey Kyle,

and then ask like a weird question of her and then she'll just be kind of annoyed with him. You don't strike me as the discipline guy in your house. What? Yeah, what does that mean? I'm a disciplinarian, what are you talking about? I run a tight ship. I feel like you're the kind of dad that's like,

you know, don't call me Billy, but like you know, well my wife laughs That's the thing is that I'm getting undercut all around, you know I we're supposed to be in a relationship here where we support each other and she constantly sides with these children I'm zero to sixty. I'm very relaxed. Mm-hmm If you want me to get involved there's no middle ground. I go I go right to you know, I if you want me to get involved, there's no middle ground. I go right to, you know, if you want me to get involved, I'm gonna take care of this. You're not gonna like the way I take care of it. It's gonna happen fast.

You don't do it half-assed, that's right. You're a full-assed kinda guy. You're zero to 60. Yep. So they go to your wife first. I've never seen that from you before. See, I'm a very relaxed person. I'm very nonchalant, I'm easy to be around.

If you want me to get involved I'm gonna get involved. Yeah, it'll be quick I was being kind of sarcastic because sometimes you can go from very relaxed person to Now but it's social settings. It's so in real life social settings. I'm a relaxed dude All right Now if you want to talk about serious stuff like the Miami Heat or the Florida Panthers, okay Then I you know a ratchet things up rather quick. But around the house, the discipline, either I'm chilling or, hey, I'm gonna take care

of this lickety split. Yeah, and do you ever get a situation where your children will say, I'm gonna go tell mom? No, no, because they don't do that. They don't play us against each other like that. What's the origin of lickety split? I don't know, look it up. So my daughters, now that I've been saying stuff, they'll come up that. They don't play us against each other like that. What's the origin of Lickety Split? I don't know, look it up. So my daughters, now that I've been saying stuff,

they'll come up to me and it's like, I'm gonna go tell mom and I say, go ahead. Wow, powerful. But it's really a dare that means nothing because usually she sides with them over me. So I'm signing my own death sentence by doing that. Okay, so I was right. Was I not?

In what sense? You're not the one doing the hard discipline of your daughters. I try, but I'm constantly undercut. So at a certain point, I not? In what sense? You're not the one doing like the hard discipline of your daughters. I try, but I'm constantly undercut. So at a certain point, I'm like, what's the point? Why am I gonna be the bad guy? I wanna be the good guy. I wanna be the favorite.

So I will let them get away with certain things that maybe they're more than. Like what, calling you Billy? What else do they do? They seem like good girls. Well, we put on a good front. They're really terrors behind the scenes. My house is in shambles.

Not eating their vegetables. Apple doesn't fall far. Well, they discovered drawing on walls, which is not good, not great at all. I love decorating. Well. Not the worst. Well, this one of the bunch is maybe the rotten apple

because she's defiant. She'll draw on the wall and then you say no and she laughs and you clean it up and then you turn around and in the exact same spot, there's more artwork. She'll draw on the wall and then you say no and she laughs and you clean it up and then you turn around and in the exact same spot, there's more artwork. Use the Sharpie? Try it. One of them used, the older one, eldest daughter,

used a Sharpie the first time around. The other one so far has used pencil and things that we can get rid of with a magic eraser so it's been fine. Used chalk one time, sidewalk chalk. I don't know why kids love chalk so much. My sister used to eat chalk. Chalk can't be good for you. No. There's something in there that can't be good time, sidewalk chalk. I don't know why kids love chalk so much. My sister used to eat chalk. Chalk can't be good for you.

No. There's something in there that can't be good for you, chalk. I don't understand how it works. Can't be good, what? It's calcium. What does that mean? It's made of calcium, chalk.

So you can eat it? I mean, technically, yes. I don't think so. You let your daughter eat chalk? No. We have actual food in the house, I wouldn't do that. But what if she's low on calcium? Yeah, exactly right.

What if the doctor says she has a calcium deficiency? Then I would get her Tums. I'll pick up some chalk on my own. Well, you can buy Tums or you can buy chalk for 15 of them for 99 cents. You break off a little piece, you make it roughly the same size as the pill. There you go.

Yeah, but the Tums are flavored. Down the hatch. That's true, the Tums flavors, they're really innovative. Let me tell you something. And Zaza will back me up on this. Kids are dumb, okay? You give a kid a pink chalk

and you say that's flavored like strawberry, they'll say, I like that. You give them one, you say this one tastes like asparagus, a green one, they're like, ew, yuck, and it's like, dummies, it's chalk, it's not flavored. What are you talking about? Take your calcium tablets. Wow.

Wow. That's why they go to school, Billy. Well. That's a good point, Roy. Thank you, Jess. Can I show you guys the video, just in case? I've never seen it. I actually really would love to see it.

Honestly, in Tony's defense, he was failed on this front because had we seen the video, maybe this would have made sense. Right. Yeah, but I was banking on people that had seen the video. He could have given a heads up that the video would come up, though. That's a fair criticism. All right, well, here's the video for the people watching. Jeremy doesn't want heads up that the video would come up though. That's a fair criticism.

All right, well here's the video for the people watching. Jeremy doesn't want to watch it because it's Kim Malky. Oh, you're right. That's fine, just put it on the screen. So again, she's walking out. Boom, crazy dap, not even looking. And in slow motion. And in slow motion.

We should probably censor this. It's a perfect dap. Yeah, see, dap always confuses me because you don't know what the extent of the Dap is going to be and That looks like that was a Dap in three parts. Yeah, and she nailed it all how does she forget? They're not looking how does she know that okay? This could be like a like a three part Dap kind of deal. That's why I get confused with Dap I never know how long the Dap is gonna last

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