The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Father of the Year (feat. David Samson)

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

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The tequila that invented tequila. Proximo, Cuervo.com, please drink responsibly. queervo. Welcome to the big suey presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries

that if they're just there that hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching band to nowhere fat face and the habitual liar. This episode of the day and a little bit tall show with Stugats is sponsored by DraftKings. DraftKings the crown is yours. We welcome in David Sampson. Nothing personal is the name of the podcast. You catch it wherever you get podcasts. David, we were musing that the existence of the white Rodney is rather rare. I

met one in the wild yesterday, but as we've been in the break, we started all these- He picked you up at the airport, man. Yeah. Not the wild. I mean, it's a wild. I just ran into a Rodney. I wasn't searching for one. But Stugatz has provided me with two in the break. Which one's Stugatz? A Rod Laver.

Rod Laver's a Rodney. Yeah. Who was the other one? Rod Carew. Rod Carew. Rodney Carew. David Sampson. Jewish.

Yes. And then? And then I found Rod Morgenstein. Here we are, finally, Astina or Stein. David, do you have any other white Rodney's to add to the proceedings? No, because I can't get past Tidwell. Rod Tidwell, he's not white.

You say Rod, that's the only place I go. I go right to Gooding Jr., I go right to Jerry Maguire. I couldn't think of Rod Laver, I couldn't think, Rodney Mott may be an NBA referee. Yes, Rodney Mott is an NBA referee. Rodney Mott is also black though. But Rockeroo is. Rockeroo is black?

Yes. I thought you said Jewish. No, no, he converted to Judaism. Oh, poor boy. He's black and he's Jewish. Yes. You can be both. Did you make Rockeroo white?

I did. I think we have to stop for a minute because Amin just actually thought that there's only white Jews. You know, I didn't, I didn't think that, but if you tell me there's a Jewish, Jesus was Jewish. Yes, Jesus was Jewish. He's going to picture David Eckstein. If you say there's a Jewish, a Jewish baseball player or Sandy Kovacs or whatever, like it's

like, you don't think about people converting as much. Obviously there are a lot of Ethiopian Jews right who are all black so I know the existence of black Jews they're also the people on 42nd Street or the lost tribes of Israel they're Israelites or so so we used to do the show at the Miami Gardens they were out there oh man I love the hype man guy He's got the easiest job because the one guy will say the Bible says That's your whole job just to repeat I honestly had no idea about them until like I was driving into work one day I'm like what's going on here with all these costumes. Oh, man. That's it's like they're dressed like it's like the Crusade

Interesting note on Karoo. There's no evidence that he ever actually formally converted to Judaism himself But he wore high necklace while he was playing and all of his daughters ultimately were bat mitzvah, but definitely black That's a fact definitely Okay, how about that put that in the sues? Oh, I put that on the pole. Did you know that rock crew is black? I put that on the poll. Did you know that Ron Carrell was black? Everyone knows. Everybody knows that. That better be 100-0 in the poll.

I'm gonna tell you what it's like. It's exactly like when they told me when Bryce Harper was either a rookie or a second year, he was in the home run derby, and they said Bryce Harper's dad is pitching to him, his dad Ron Harper. And I was like, huh, I didn't know Bryce Harper was black. Ron-o- Harper.

No, they said Ron Harper. So I'm like, oh, and so for a couple years, I was like, yeah, man, I didn't know Bryce Harper was black. Ron Harper. No, they said Ron Harper. So I'm like, oh, and so for a couple of years, I was like, yeah, man, like I didn't know, because I didn't know what Bryce Harper looked like. What jeans? So then they were like, no, Bryce Harper's not black. I'm like, well, his dad's Ron Harper, right? And it's a, no, his dad is named Ron Harper,

but it's not that Ron Harper. I'm like, bullshit, you don't get to call yourself Ron Harper then. Were you listening to the Homer Derby like on the radio or something? I was on Sports Center in the background. I was doing Sports Center that day. I wasn't paying attention. You know, I don't get to call yourself Ron Harper then. Were you listening to the Homer Derby like on the radio or something? I was on SportsCenter in the background. I was doing SportsCenter that day. I wasn't paying attention.

You know, I don't watch this shit. You sure weren't? But the point is, the idea that like, someone can walk around, first of all, we need to know what Bryce Harper's dad's name is. We don't, we really don't. Did his dad play anything? No, okay, don't need to know his name.

Second of all, if his name is Ron Harper, guess what? It's no longer Ron Harper, it's Ronald Harper. Wow, so there can't be an actor named Michael B Jordan Michael B Jordan not Michael Jordan you can be Ronald B. Harper Ron B. Harper, okay, but you can't be Ron Harper That's fair. That's that's I'm Ron Harper or something Ron F Harper I say the F no one who is a fan of Bryce Harper is aware of Couldn't pick Ron Harper out of a crowded room. It looks like him though, right?

This is that, which Ron Harper. Yeah, which Ron Harper we talking about. The basketball player. Oh, he's tall. No, everyone knows Ron Harper. A very tall point guard for his day. Yeah, we know Ron Harper because, but if you talk to baseball fans

who are watching Bryce Harper, my guess is they're not solely focused on Ron Harper. You're forgetting, when was the last time Ron Harper got into uniform? I may be having some timing issues, but I'm thinking, you know, 2002. For when last time Ron Harper was the name? No, when did he last play? 2001. He's old.

He was an assistant coach for the Pistons 2005-2007. He's 61. No, no one knows who that is. Put on the poll. Do you know who Ron Harper is also put it on the pole? Can you follow more than one sport? Yeah, yeah, how many is rice Harper one is a two-time Mac player of the year I'm gonna play of the year awards is Bryce Harper. Yeah Well, okay, that's one. That's kind of a player. Two to one. Two to one. Well, he also jumped straight from high school to the pros.

He's an eight-time all-star. His dad was actually a bit of a higher profile because of the prodigious nature of Bryce Harper's, you know, career. Let's be honest, Ron didn't win a thing. Well, I mean, Michael won him five championships. Hold on, hold on. First of all, he won five things. He didn't really a thing well let me Michael won him five champion hold on hold on hold on he won five things he didn't really and he didn't win them he didn't win them all with Michael he had two with the Lakers Bryce was a two-time by the way so two-time player technically and if you really want to play this game Ron Harper's son Dylan Harper gonna be a top five pick in the NBA draft I'm saying that right now gonna be better than Bryce Harper this Ron Harper son will be better than that Ron Harper son.

How about that? That is a take. That's ridiculous. We're gonna put seed versus seed. Bryce is really actually fulfilling the brawn-idling seed. This is one of the greatest players of his generation. Okay, and what do you think Dylan Harper is?

I mean, wasn't Bryce Harper on the cover of SI while he was in high school still? Bryce Harper's lived up to the expectations, yes? He's LeBron James basically, but here's something that Ron Harper did for Bryce Harper. Which Ron Harper? The other Ron Harper, the one who's not the NBA player, had him go to a college which basically skirted the draft rules and made him eligible to be drafted and get a huge bonus from the Nationals when they had back to back one-ones, they had Strausberg, who ended up being a World Series MVP,

and Bryce Harper, and it became, they closed some loops because of Ron Harper. So if you go back and read about Bryce, and many people don't focus on this, he was able to get himself out of school into a different type of school, which enabled him to then be draft eligible. You know who didn't have to do that?

The other Ron Harper. It's crazy because Bryce Harper as a kid, like when he was on the cover of Sports Illustrated in 2009 as the chosen one, like LeBron, remember he was going to be a catcher. Catcher. He was drafted as a catcher. If they would have like, obviously the right decision to not let him be a catcher long term, he's gonna have a much longer career. Because of it, he probably would've gotten banged up.

But if he had had even a five year run as a catcher with the type of hitter he is, we would've been talking about him and his peak as one of the greatest peaks in the history of baseball. Respectfully, that's not interesting. That's cool, man. That's Joe Mauer. Oh, hold's not interesting. That's cool, man. That's Joe Mauer.

Oh, hold on a second. Bryce Harper, way better hitter than Joe Mauer. No doubt. And Joe Mauer's all time great as a catcher. But Bryce Harper and the power speed combination, I mean, David. You're forgetting how good Joe Mauer was for a big number of years.

Now, I understand that there's a hot take if you buy, you know, Stu gots take that Joe Mower is not HOF worthy. But I said first ballot worthy worthy. He's really good. I don't want to be the one to shit on Joe Mower here. I think Joe Mower is like an unbelievable hitter. I was the only one to defend Joe Mower. While I got started there, I am volunteering like the price

Harper would have been better. Is it crazy to say that Bryce Harper at the catcher position is the type of hitter? I don't even know why we're in this conversation. This is my own fault. I mean, but everyone thought Buster Posey was gonna be great and he was. He was, he was pretty great.

Didn't Harper leave the Nationals and they won the World Series the next year? Buster Posey ruined baseball, if I'm gonna be perfectly honest with you. Buster Posey ruined baseball because he couldn't take be perfectly honest with you. Buster Posey ruined baseball because he couldn't take a hit from Scott Cousins, and that's the fact, Jack. I had a feeling you'd invoke Scott Cousins there.

FSU, good at turning out catchers. So if we're keeping track at home, Ron Harper adds championships to his teams. Bryce Harper, not so much. It kind of negates it. He goes away, they start winning. That's not a good look. I have a question.

Win plus minus. I have a question that'll kind of switch gears a little bit. It was yesterday's topic du jour, but I'm curious to get your perspective because the WNBA is in a curious position when it comes to this Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark thing, because it is good for business. It is getting people, my dad was FaceTiming me yesterday and he was talking to me about the Angel Reese segment

that Stu and Dan had. This is the storyline in the league and anyone that tries to convince themselves otherwise isn't necessarily in tune with what's going on. Now, it may be a discourse that they're not a fan of. It may be a discourse that they're openly against and I understand that. Juju spoke to it yesterday. But this is the discourse that is going to be paying the bills. This is the discourse that is going to be getting eyes to that league whenever Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark play. So how does the league navigate this? Yeah, I do not believe this is the discourse that pays the bills. This is the heroin discourse to me. It feels, and I don't mean the females. I mean the drug.

This feels really good. I've heard, right when you do it, and then all of a sudden it's really bad. Chasing the dragon. Yeah. So this is a way to try to jump start something, to achieve a value that you believe you deserve to have, will have, could have, and this is the shortcut to it. The problem is when you're building up

franchise valuations or building up sponsor relationships as you head into a collective bargaining negotiation where the players say they could walk out, they want to be treated like unrivaled treated them and they view this as the cotton candy. Look at all the ratings, look at what we're getting, look at this rivalry. It's total poppycock. The people who pay the bills do not want this narrative. They do not want to pay for this narrative. They don't want any part of it.

Why? Because Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark, if you're going to do it, you do it on the court. Do it in the playoffs. You are not in the position as a league right now to have this as your revenue driver. Brown sugar. Yeah, like, here's the thing. For years, I'm not saying it's good, as your revenue driver? Brown sugar. Here's the thing. For years, I'm not saying it's good,

but I'm just saying for years, people have complained that the establishment doesn't pay attention to women's sports. And now it is, and it's doing it in a ham-handed, contrived, lazy sort of way, which by the way, is how we do every goddamn sport. I mean, this is my point. This is equality.

This is equality. You have like the annoying topic, welcome to Tim Tebow world and should Dak Prescott get an extension? Like this is, this is you guys making it. Yes. This is what you've always wanted. This is what it is. Did you think making it. Yes. This is It was a hollow Cathedral where we're actually doing real analysis We're talking about tush pushes for like four weeks straight

We just did ten minutes on Bryce Harper versus Ron Harper when we talk about you in a way That's lazy without information. You have made it. Yes Ball I mean what's that David there? I'm sorry. They're not ready for this discourse you're wanting to put the WNBA in this place where it would be part of the Cathedral of topics that we would discuss in the media and the sort of insane way that we would look at things that is a Mature league that gets those discussions. And I want to point this out on the business side. There's a big difference when you talk about leagues

that have established media rights deals that have established billion dollar valuations versus when you talk about startup leagues or fledgling leagues. In order for a fledgling league, which is what the WNBA is, please do not make a mistake. This league is is what the WNBA is. Please do not make a mistake. This league is supported by the NBA and the owners. These teams lose money, their values have not gone up in any measurable way. Hard stop. The

broadcast deals were handed to them and now the players believe that because of all of this attention that they're getting off the court and the numbers that have been good on the court, I grant you. Yes, they outdrew the Yankees-Mets subway series game on ESPN. I get you, but you're missing foundation. And so the analogy I would give you is that when you build a building and you forget the rebar, you may get to take the elevator one time before it comes crumbling down. The better way to do it is you build with rebar and you build it appropriately

and you build it over time and then it becomes strong and valuable. Then we get to do all the lazy takes and all the talks that we talk about off the court rivalries etc etc. It's just not yet. David, I'm wondering your thoughts here about flag football being an Olympic sport. If you were an NFL owner, would you want one of your players playing David, I'm wondering your thoughts here about flag football being an Olympic sport. If you were an NFL owner, would you want one of your players playing in the Olympic, playing flag football in the Olympics? No chance.

Right. This was an interesting vote here, Stu. What I thought happened here is the NFL gets its cake and they get to eat it too. They get to announce a unanimous approval for NFL players to play in the Olympics. They get to not go sideways against Washington, where the current president is very pro patriotism, who's not very pro Olympics as though we're back in the Cold War. Hey, we're going to get our best players out here, win as many gold medals as possible. It's in LA, we're home, we've got to win. But what's happening on the side

is that what the NFL owners are saying, we're giving this to the players. We're saying, good, you can play. For all of you who've spoken up and said, oh, we'd be interested, we want our chance at gold. But here's what we want in return. We want 18 weeks. We want an international game every single weekend and when we start negotiating our next CBA

This is the trade you want us to give you permission and fully ensure the fact that you can play It won't count against the cap if you get hurt Fine, but guess what we want something in return. That's how these negotiations work. David, I'm curious if you know the answer to this. How much money is in the international games for the NFL? Because it's not a separate TV package. Maybe that's the end game spends. But is this just a ticket sales revenue type of play?

Why is the league, according to you, going to be forcing this issue? We want an international game. Is that just, it serves a greater good if we spread the game around, that'll ultimately help the bottom dollar? Or is there a legit current business to this model? Yeah, what do you do when you rule everything that you see?

What do you think you do when you rule? You try to see more. You try to see more. You go up a little higher to see if you can see more. That's what the NFL is doing. That's what MLB and the NBA are all trying to find ways to get out of the American market, to get whether it's promotion money, which you get,

because they're promoters who actually pay to host games. And then you get extra merch, extra tickets. There are extra TV deals that are done internationally. And with streamers, you only get different markets. You don't get the world. You have to pay for different parts of the world. But the NFL, they want to conquer new frontiers. It's the oldest form of capitalism in the world.

The more you have, the more you want, and the more you get, the more you strive to get more. And that's what the NFL is doing. And they've been pretty overt about this. And God bless them. Well, I just assume that it's actually a presently a booming business for them because we're not early into this European expansion project for the NFL. What's going on? What? 15? We're close to 20 years on them on them dabbling in trying to increase that market. They keep doing it. They

keep increasing the numbers. So I imagine there's a lot of money in these international games presently. It's not just serving the greater good. There is not. There's actually not. MLB does not make a ton of money on its international games. Neither does the NBA. You're paying the players more, the expenses are more. But what it is, you always want the illusion. If you're starting a business and you've got one store, one point of sale, but then you then you can say that oh we opened a second store or a third store You're not telling people what your revenue is per store when you're first starting your business You're just giving the illusion that there's growth that it's it's cool. It's exciting

It's it's an upward trajectory The NFL has been doing this for a super long time and they're gonna keep going but you're seeing incremental changes. I can't remember the year, you guys will know. There used to be one international game. And now it feels like, what did they announce this year? Six or seven, including Ireland and Germany. Believe me, in the next three years,

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twenty one and over age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction void in Ontario that must win to receive reward bonus bets expire one hundred sixty eight hours after issuance for additional terms and responsible gaming resources see dkng.co.slash audio. Don LeBretard. This guy comes in as the next Wayne Gretzky. His nicknames include the Chosen One and McJesus, okay? He's a great player, he scores a lot of goals, he scores a ton of assists, but it hasn't translated to making Edmonton a powerhouse in the league. They're in the final. Stugats! What's your nickname for them? McOva rated. This is the Don LeVatar show with the Stugats! David, when, if ever, do you think the NFL takes the next huge step, which is a team

based internationally or a Super Bowl that isn't in the United States? I think as soon as they bring back supersonic jets, and there is some talk, once the Concorde crashed, that was the end. What? end yeah do you know what the yeah the concord are they bringing the concord back there have been people they're rumors oh we're back this is this is a big deal there has not been this is a crazy thing to think about for those of us who are old and so Greg I'll address this to you thank you has there been real innovation in the Aerospace industry in our lifetime mean still take moving outer space tourism

Yeah, but that doesn't help me get to a game faster. No, in fact many would argue we've taken a step back lately Yes, yes, we certainly could argue that especially if you ever use EW. I would say that if the ability to travel overseas to London, if you can lower that time from New York and get it down to three to a three and a half hour flight and you make it so you can go play more than one game there, the way the Vikings are this year, the way the Jaguars have done in the past, you make it so it's easier for teams to play multiple games. You will see international games. You may see an international division and then you will see an international Super Bowl.

Greg, you and I will still have a microphone in front of us. God willing, there will be an international Super Bowl. Well, I feel like it shouldn't be that hard, should it, to have an international Super Bowl? I think the bigger issue is probably taxes and working that out with the players union. You oversaw a team in a different country and that was just Canada and it was certainly complicated.

I mean, whole different tax structure over in Europe. A lot of players wouldn't be excited to go there. You might have people blocking draft picks the way that Eli did when he didn't wanna go to San Diego, right David? Let me give you a shout out to Revenue Quebec. It is the biggest, it makes the IRS look fantastic. It is such a pain in the neck for players who are dealing with Canada taxes.

You get credits for US taxes, but you have to fight for if they're dollar for dollar. It's a whole McGilla when you play 81 of your games in Canada, which is half of your salary gets taxed in Canada. It's a complete pain in the neck to cross the border back and forth all these times. So you're right. It is a definite lift. And if you are playing in London and you have small kids,

it's a big union issue because you can't just go back and forth as easily, which brings us back to the supersonic jet because you can have your family live in New York and play for Houston and the union doesn't say a word about it. And if the flying time becomes somewhat similar to get to a different place, you're just going east instead of west,

I think that that can happen. But David, a Super Bowl though, again, I go back, you guys are talking in terms of a team being based overseas, yes, that can be complicated. To have a Super Bowl. Why is that such a big deal? Minnesota gets a Super Bowl on my income. How hard could it be to have a Super Bowl in Madrid

or in Rome or whatever? That would seem to be the way to actually usher in a new era of European expansion for the NFL is start with the Super Bowl and then announce all these other things. Do we start it on our time or do we start it on Madrid's time? Because there's six hours ahead. No, the NFL is always considered Europe when it comes to the Super Bowl starts. It's not a prime time start. They try to increase the audience.

It's usually like a 615ishh right start that does consider international markets Well, that's pretty late though six if it when the Super Bowl that starts it. I think kickoff is normally 629. Yeah, yeah That's that's 1130 If you're a rights holder You kind of want the primetime. It's Sunday do a 1 p.m. Kickoff like what's the Yeah, like what's the big deal? That's what it would be. Yeah, like a 3.30 is fine. Why it's a 3.30? 1 o'clock is fine. Because it's 8.30 in the UK.

I mean we're getting down in the weeds here. Let's take it back a little macro. The way owners vote on Super Bowls is where they want to be. Because unlike the other sports, every owner goes to the Super Bowl. No owners go to the World Series. I mean, I would bet you a dollar that two owners at most go to the NBA finals, maybe zero. But in the Super Bowl, they all go

and they wanna go where it's nice. It's why Miami is always a great choice. Vegas, obviously, LA, obviously. Minnesota was less than ideal. But when you have to get a Super Bowl in order to get a publicly funded stadium and the trade that's made Owners are willing to give in on that because they want the new facilities going to Europe not the end of the world

But it's not a great time of year in early February in any of these big European cities London's weather in February terrible terrible. Yeah, David. You've been having a busy couple of days here with graduations, right? Kids are graduating. It's the cycle of life, guys, right? The baby bird comes out of the shell and grows up, and then one day he's gotta leave the nest and fly. And so have you had- They're tough to sit through, though.

I mean, they are. Dude, I'm just- They're long. It is- Brutal. Incredibly long. Incredibly long. And I've never, well, I guess I've been to like my kid's middle school graduation. That doesn't count. But like I've walked for my graduate and undergraduate degrees.

And it was a big waste of time. I didn't do it because I wanted to do it. I did it because my family was there. It was like, they want to see this. So let me just go ahead and do it. So again, I'm not saying that I'm a candidate for father of the year by any stretch What I am saying is that I have a note on my phone where I keep track of a lot of stuff Mm-hmm. I would like to read to you the following Oh six Oh nine Oh nine twelve thirteen fourteen sixteen

seventeen seventeen twenty twenty twenty-one twenty one twenty-five twenty, twenty one, twenty one, twenty five, twenty five, twenty five. I've kept track of graduations since 2006 in my phone of obligations that I would have to go to. And I just finished. I swear to you yesterday was the final final when my daughter became a doctor

and I'm so proud of them, I grant you. But God damn it, that was so many graduations. You're done. I lost my mind, Stu. It was hours. I don't care that I have to watch 80 other people get hooded and then watch 200 people get their name called. I'm there for my two seconds.

Give me a slot and I will show up for the slot. It's like the ballet recitals. For a four year old, I don't wanna sit there eight hours to watch my daughter do three minutes of a dance. I'm kinda with you on this, David. Totally with him on this. Dude, that's a lot of, by the way, graduations are boring. Very boring.

And you get someone, someone has to come give a speech and they do the whole like, you're gonna go out into the world, you're gonna change the world, and I'm like, oh, shut up. Shut up, we all wanna get outta here. I mean, it was great the first time when you're, you know, a child graduates kindergarten, first grade. Yeah, but that's a short one, man.

Number one. Oh, it was not short. Really? How big was your kindergarten class? It wasn't that big, but they were celebrating multiple classes. It was like two hours. But also, I'm just saying, as a participant, forget about being a parent.

As a kid, I'm just sitting there waiting for them to call my name, twin them up. Oh, that's me. Go up there, you take your picture, and that's it, right? And so now when you extrapolate it from kindergarten and then middle school graduation, high school graduation, then you get to college graduation, right? It's like, okay, we've done this before,

but the college one, not only is it the biggest one with the most people, but it's got these speeches. And the speeches are sanctimonious as hell. Like, who the hell are you to tell me I'm gonna go out in the world and make a change that I wanna see and all that stuff? Shut up! Get to the point, make it fast!

We wanna get outta here! I wanna eat with my family, I wanna hug my mom, I wanna take pictures, I don't wanna sit here listening to you wax poetic about where the world is and how it needs me. So, God, who's the person that gives the speech during these graduation classes? Starts with a V.

I have no idea. The, oh, you trying to lose your weight? Oh, the valedictorian? Yeah, the valedictorian. There it is. Gotta remember your own bits. Victor something? But also you gotta know your teammates.

Like a 17 year old callback, really? Oh no, he remembers. No heads up. He absolutely remembers, Mike. What? David, what was the most memorable thing of yesterday's graduation for you? I mean, it's cool to hear your child named as a doctor. I get it, like that's interesting.

Yeah. So I'm in, and it was cool to watch my son graduate. The coolest part was that I got to run into the owner of the Cardinals, who I hadn't seen in seven years. Bidwell? Or the baseball cardinals? No, sorry.

Funny. St. Louis Cardinals and baseball. Got it. That's funny where your head is. The other Rockharper. And so there's a bunch of interesting kids who graduated with my son. And so that was interesting to see sort of what people are doing and what the world is, how these people are communicating at age 22 that I don't communicate at age 57.

It makes you feel old. My biggest emotion that I had watching my youngest child graduate college, I had pride for him. I'm proud of him. I really am though. I would have hoped he wouldn't have dropped out or not graduated once he got into college. But that said, proud of him.

He wrote a great thesis. He's working starting next month in the real world. Fine. Wait a sec, great thesis. It was. It was like from war games about global thermonuclear war. The best game is not to play. Shall we play a game?

David, I do not owe you an apology over the Bryce Harper stuff. He has a 143 OPS plus over his career to Joe Mowers, 124. He also has 200 more home runs in one less season, also an extra MVP. But what I do potentially owe you an apology for is a few weeks ago on this program, Dan said that,

I said your basketball analysis was off. What that conversation led to, Dan was wrong, Dan threw me under the bus. But what that conversation led to was me saying, there's no way that the Minnesota Timberwolves made the Julius Randall, Carl Anthony Towns trade for basketball reasons. You were insistent that they did.

And Julius Randall has been really, really, really good. So David, I would like, hand up, I would like to formally apologize for the criticism of your analysis, and I'd like to apologize to Julius Randall, who's been fantastic, and do I think him being great is good for the ultimate winning of the Minnesota Timberlake? Fantastic for the expectations.

Fantastic for the expectations. Do I think that him being their leading scorer is any good for the Timberwolves? Absolutely not. I think that's a bad thing. But David, I can see what you were saying and I owe you an apology. Apology accepted, Jeremy, but I would like to just tell you that I have no recollection of what you're talking about. That's what I do appreciate.

Wow. I figured you would, of all people. No, I don't keep track that way, actually. I don't do receipts. I'm not the victory lap guy because my legs would get tired. It just it doesn't matter. Too many victories. Everyone is entitled to be wrong. He's just keeping track of graduation days. He'll show us that $2 billion receipt. There is a sports storyline going on this week that I'm shocked at how little discussion there has been because I know it's a niche sport, but when Lance Armstrong is doing his thing Main Street Media talks about it. The biggest day in motorsports is happening on Sunday.

You have Monaco, the Grand Prix, the Indianapolis 500, which used to be a way bigger deal, but 300,000 people are going to be in attendance in Indianapolis. And then NASCAR debuts on Amazon Prime later that evening with a race in Charlotte. There is one man in the history of this planet that has pulled off running all 1,100 miles in the Indianapolis 500 and the Coca-Cola 600 in Charlotte. Two different cities, two different races,

two different circuits, one driver. It's Tony Stewart. It's the only person that ever did it. I thought you were gonna say Ricky Bobby. Only person that ever did it for IndyCar and then NASCAR on the same damn day. They completed all the miles. Two others have tried, two others failed.

How'd he do? Kyle Larson was the most recent to try. He tried last year. Both races were impacted by rain. Kyle Larson led one of the final laps before ultimately having to go into gas because he made a rookie mistake there and then flew to Charlotte on the same day,

was never actually able to get in the car because rain impacted it. Kyle Larson is once again trying for the double. Two races, one day, 1,100 miles. This is a massive story. Prime has a documentary series behind it. They are launching their coverage of NASCAR with Larson going for the backend of that double. Why? I know they're competing interests because

NASCAR doesn't seem fully on board with this because it looks like Kyle Larsen is prioritizing a different circuit. But this is great for the sport. It's great for all motorsports and I don't understand why NASCAR and IndyCar aren't getting together and really teaming up and pushing this news out there because few people even know that this is happening. Mike, real quick question. You said Tony Stewart's the only one to do it. He made it every single mile.

How did he do it? How did he do? He did top six in Indianapolis and top three in Charlotte. He didn't win. No one's, it goes without saying, no one's ever pulled off the amazing feat of winning both races. But the specter of that does loom over this weekend Kyle Larson is one of the most talented drivers if he pulls that

off in one day if he wins both races I don't think he's fast enough in Indy but if he does it's the single greatest motorsports achievement we've ever seen and people should know that there is a chance of this happening over the weekend from the movie the sixth day with Arnold Schwarzenegger, we have white Rodney Rowland. Do they wear diapers, Mike? They just go in their tracksuits. We've asked every time like, in early in the show's history, anytime we had a NASCAR driver,

it was Dan's like go to question. And the answer is they just go in their pants. Yeah, they just go. But they're also they get so dehydrated during that race. They're not peeing that much. They're not. If you're not peeing, you're not drinking enough. Well, they also have lines of're also, they get so dehydrated during that race. They're not peeing that much. They're not- If you're not peeing, you're not drinking enough.

Well. They also have lines of water. Like they get hydrated, but you know, it's something that does happen occasionally. They pee in there. That's your response to Kyle Larson trying for the historic double? No, I have a better one, Mike. Is that analytics have told me that under 0.01% of our audience at Nothing Personal

wants that as one of the topics. And so that's why I don't cover it. I want to cover F1. I thought that the hook of Drive to Survive and people getting excited about that and McLaren, how great they've been. The fact of the matter is that, you know, the Kinks, Ray Davies, baby, give the people what they want. I can't find my particular show. But that's on your show. Mike asked you a question. No, I get it. I get it. I'm not the only one who thinks that way. I understand why this show doesn't talk about

NASCAR seriously. I have to put on a gimmick helmet anytime that I do. I understand why that does. But this is a transcendent sports story. This is someone looking to do something that only one other person has achieved. someone actually trying to win both races, who actually has a legitimate chance. Kyle Larson wins all the time in NASCAR, and he led one of the final laps last year in Indy. If there's a driver to pull it off in the modern age, it's Kyle Larson. I feel like this is a story that if the average sports fan knew what was going on on a Sunday, one day a year they can get behind the biggest day in motorsports. It's a Sunday afternoon before Memorial Day.

It's Americana. I feel like people need to know about this story and it's not even being covered or addressed by the mainstream. And it's Indianapolis. It's the Indy 500. It's a big deal. I'll take an alert. If I get an alert like with three laps to go out of the 1100 saying, Hey, Kyle Larson is about to do this.

I would tune in. David, what are you reviewing for us today? I'm reviewing a movie that not a lot of people have seen. And I'm hoping that somebody on this show has, it came out in 2024, not widely recognized with one of my favorite actors, Bill Nahy and James Norton and Thomasine McKenzie. It's called Joy, the birth of IVF.

I didn't know the backstory of IVF. I didn't know the backstory of IVF I didn't know that it was developed in the 70s and that the precursor was known as test to baby that you don't remember That's a good idea, but I didn't know the test two babies became IVF. I didn't realize all of the religious implications I didn't realize I just lived in my own world I didn't realize all the issues that existed when it was developed in London by scientists over the objections of everybody. I didn't realize that there was the first baby

who was born from IDF and what it's led to with 12 million children able to get life and parents who suffer from infertility issues able to have the joys of going to a graduation every year. I was not aware of that and this movie captures it. It's based on a true story quite obviously and I love when I get to watch movies and learn and I love to be entertained. It went quickly. I didn't check my phone. I didn't Google during the movie to learn about the stuff. I Googled after to sort of follow up

fact versus fiction the usual. If you can find it, you can go to Netflix. It's called Joy, The Birth of IVF. And I suggest it for anybody and everybody, whether you have children or not. Thank you, David. Appreciate your time. Nothing personal with David Sampson.

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