The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Football Movies (feat. Tony D'Amato)

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

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Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by Draft Kings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it.

And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan Labitart show is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. Since the Dolphins have won a playoff game, the Patriots have not merely 10 Super Bowl appearances. They've got 17 AFC East titles and six Super Bowl wins. And I will say again, when it comes to the ego of coaches and in general, how often people think that they are responsible for their own success without granting the idea that a lot of luck and is involved and that you have to have a lot of support.

You have to admit that Bill Belichick six years ago could not have imagined a scenario where there's a 10-part docu-series that rips him for not being as responsible for those victories as you might think. that also has Tom Brady winning a Super Bowl by beating Aaron Rogers, Drew Breeze, and who was the third quarterback? There was three great... Oh, and Mahomes! And Mahomes, he beats three quarterbacks and some of them on the road to win the Super Bowl.

And then after that, that the Patriots would get one of his former linebackers and that Vrable would turn into one of the sports great coaches that they wouldn't need Belichick at all to get back there. And don't forget, with a quarterback that according to legend, you told your social media staff to not post about because he's a tar hill, but he's doing it with the Patriots, and then makes Daddy look bad.

So I don't think he's the same quarterback that the stats are rolling around on McDonald how good he is against quarterbacks who are under 24 years old. I think Drake May is a unique talent at the position, but there are good, valid reasons to question how good that Patriots team is. And I wondered yesterday, I assumed that Patriot fans would fear Stafford more and not want the Rams to advance. But what they should fear is what Seattle's defensive line is going to do to cave in the right side of their offensive line, which is injured. Because that is incompetence what you have seen from the Patriot offense to advance to the Super Bowl. Outside of Trent Dilford's Ravens, I have rarely seen a team.

be this kind of incompetent at offense the last two games and get to the Super Bowl? It's not, and those Raven teams had to injure Rich Gannon on the road in order to do that by having Tony Saragusa just fall down on Rich Gannon in a way that injured the MVP. I'm hearing us talk this game out and I guess the general feeling is that Seattle rolls, right? You know what that sets up for? Mike Vrable, live dog. Live dog.

I counted out live dog in the sports biggest game. I'm just saying. Wouldn't you think, though, that the Rams were fearing most Stafford, correct? I'm sorry, the Patriots were fearing most Stafford advancing to the next game, that they would have preferred to play against Sam Darnold than Stafford. No? Nah, I don't, I don't know. Yeah, is that a bad answer?

Yeah, it's terrible. I don't know. I don't see Mike Brable and his staff like, geez, I hope it's... I'm talking about fans. I was talking about Patriot fans. I think they'd be more afraid of Seattle because we know Seattle's defense is great. The Rams defense, not so good. And the Patriots, like you said, offensively has struggled against really good defenses these last couple of weeks.

So I think they probably would have actually rather seen Rams. It's also been not to be the weather guy, but it's also been the weather, right? When they played against Houston a couple weeks ago, there was slushy, wintery mix that they really couldn't get the field going. But the score was 10-7 at the end of the third quarter of 40. It started snowing. That's the conference championship game. I'm talking about two weeks ago in Houston where it was slushing and raining and wet and cold. And then the week after, they have another weather anomaly.

So it's like you're looking at these two games. It's like, well, you don't have your full offense out there to be able to do the things you want to do. He's the best deep ball thrower in the league and hasn't been able to throw deep ball in two weeks. It is a nice word, Jeremy. I don't know if it was a right word, but it was a nice word. Oh, no, he did good. It's the right word. Zaz loves and has told us he loves low scoring games, defense games.

I enjoyed that game very much. Oh, my God. Yeah. Did you watch it or are you big phony? No, I did watch it. Big phony. I am a big phony. I did end up watching it.

Of course you did. I regretted those three hours of my life. Why would you love that game? And it wasn't snowing, Dan, and then it was snowing. Wow. That's like the tale of two games. Exactly right. Tail of two halves.

I was hating from the sidelines. And then I saw that single camera shot following Sidham as he's there on the field with his family and his kids are hugging him. And he's stretching out. And they're just like, it's great. The camera just swoops around, a stadium full of people. You know about that cinematography? This is such a cool story.

And then he throws a dot over to Marvin Mims Jr. for 55 yards. You're like, oh, my God, there's no way it's going to happen. Champagne's going to do it. Jared Stead off his 90s-ass hair. Oh, wow. I'm Danny Tanner-looking hair. I cannot be alone in this room of thinking that game was an abomination. Nope, loved it.

And put me in the weird position of rooting for the Patriots, I did not want Stidham in the Super Bowl. Like, for what? For what, why would, why would I want to watch that? Like, that's, you're ruining the entire game for me. At least this time I can, I can pretend that Vray Bowl and the Patriots have a chance and I can talk myself into all football games are close because football's crazy that way. I couldn't have done it if Denver had been in the Super Bowl against either one of those

two teams I watched in the later game. Yesterday, Denver might have slowed and tried to muck up a Rams or Seattle Super Bowl, but they wouldn't have had a chance with Stidim like that. I'm telling you, there are very few quarterbacks in the history of the league that game plan the way that the Broncos game plan and make the mistake that Stidham made in that situation. Like that is, you cannot make that mistake.

Like, you can turn the ball over down the field. You cannot inside of your own 15-yard line when your defense is playing like that, when clearly the weather and the home field are going to help you. you later in the game, you cannot make that mistake as a competent quarterback. And Rex Ryan said this morning on get up,

that's why he will be a backup, the remainder of his career, and will never be a starter. But I wanted to ask you about another What a take. The guy who hasn't thrown a pass in two years. Backup. The career backup's going to be a career backup. Get out of town. The thing

that I wanted to ask you about Rex Ryan though is when he dismisses, he's talking, He was talking about the Sean Payton play and the fact that Sean Payton went for it on fourth and short and failed when he could have gotten a 10-0-0 lead instead of a 7-0 lead. And his defense is obviously exceptional. And that front four is as good as any that has played the game statistically in terms of applying pressure. When he sees his beloved game turn into a different thing where coaches are going for it more and more on fourth and short, and he yells about these nerd dudes, the way that Tony Dungeons, she does. That lands on me wrong every single time that these dinosaurs keep shaking a fist about

how they used to do it because they don't like the change. How do you absorb Rex Ryan being on television and just pounding people with these nerd dudes because all they're doing is applying the facts of math and he wants to eliminate them because he's the coach who prefers caveman. He wants to beat you over the head with a club instead of listening to just the probabilities of math. Clearly, Rex Ryan is scared of math and it's confusing to me. Well, here's the irony of the way Rex Ryan feels because he's a caveman, okay? And so he doesn't like the nerd boy stuff. The nerd boy stuff is being aggressive.

Super. It's them wanting to be, actually be tough. And it's short yardage, like. Scrimmage battles, it is actually, it lends itself to the caveman mentality. Rex Ryan actually. Hell, even Mario Cristobal became like super aggressive. Like Rex Ryan with his caveman tough guy football does the opposite of tough. He punts on fourth and one or he runs the ball so they can use up the clock instead

of Donald throwing the ball at the end of the game so they can pick up the first down or going for fourth in shorts. Like the nerd boys are actually the ones playing tough guy aggressive football. Rex Ryan's the coward in those spots. And there's not that many cavemen left in head coaching, right? In the NFL, you look around the league and you're like, there's only a handful of guys that are not going to do that thing. They're not going to go forward on fourth and one, fourth and two, fourth and three.

And we're going to see that move over into the media space too where all these guys who played the game and coached the game a certain way, now they're going to just age out. Everybody's going to be like, yeah, that doesn't work anymore. What we need is the new people that are talking about analytics, they're talking about going forward and on fourth and four in a short yard situation. The idea that you would age out so close-mindedly that you would be like Greg Cody against learning seems to run against what the definition of coaching is supposed to be. The Steelers just hired Mike McCarthy.

He is viewed as one of those cavemen, but he has evolved and he was somebody who was changing the way that he was applying his ideas to fourth downs. It's just bewildering. That of all people, Mike McCarthy has been the head coach for the Packers, Cowboys, and now the Steelers. These are crown jewel franchises, and he is such an ordinary man. This signaled to me, I thought, a desire to lure Aaron Rogers into another season. Wasn't there a schism with McCarthy and Rogers? I read that book with my ears. I don't think this sweetens the pot for Aaron.

Amateur does either. Okay. I don't know. I just assumed that. But the thing that was most confusing to me about everything that happened there is how weird for Mike Tomlin to leave without any fanfare, without any press conference, without any interview, without any saying goodbye to Pittsburgh. Like you have a coach who has no losing seasons for 19 years and he slips out a side door. And I'm not sure what his contract status was like, did he leave money on the table in order to. So he just leaves the job with no fanfare.

The Steelers have had three coaches in their history. How is it possible? No, no, no, no. They haven't had three coaches in their history. Yeah, this is a common mistake that you made. I mean, pretty much. Since the 70s, since the merger, since the merger. I'm not, I know you're giving me the hand dismissal.

I'm trying to help you, pal. That's not helpful to me. Yes, because everyone's like, dude's an idiot. I'm like, no, he's not. Come on, use your eyes. There wasn't football. There wasn't real football until the. merger.

Like, all the stats are after the merger. Like, it's not, okay, you want to cite the 1940s, okay? I'm speaking for the ops, all right? That's all I'm doing. What did you want? I don't care what the end of season. You wanted the end of season press conference, the way that Tony Donato had it for the Miami Sharks, where he surprises everybody.

I'm going to control Albuquerque and I've signed Willie Beeman as my quarterback. This guy does a good, it's a game of inches. How did it surprise everybody in the room? Wait, there's an expansion franchise. Tony Donato's operating it, and he just signed Willie Beeman, and he's breaking all these things to us at the same time. In front of John C. McGinley. They're terrible reporters.

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Conversations are still ongoing. Stugats. It is trending towards Nick Siriani, remaining the head coach of the Eagles. This is the Don Lebatar show with a Stugats. There was an eyeball on the field in any good Sunday. It is weird that we are so bad at making football movies, given how popular the sport is. Well, there just aren't very many. You're going to have a hard time.

Put it on the poll at Lebitard Show. Can you name in the history of film five good football movies? An eyeball on the field does not look realistic. I loved that movie when it came out, Dan, any given Sunday. Bukshambe used to give me a hard time for my love of that movie. And about two years ago, my son, my older son, I was like, you want to watch a great movie? Let's watch any given Sunday. You're going to love this.

So we sat on the couch. I didn't see it in 15 years. So we sat on the couch together. We put it on about 20 minutes in. We looked at each other. I'm like, this movie sucks. What? And we stopped watching.

No, the movie's great. What are you doing? It really hits the ground running, too. It sucks. You don't like football, dude. Man, that's a great movie. It's a great movie. Can you guys look up for me? Put it on the Pullet Levitard show. Is any, is on any given Sunday a great movie? And look up for me, whatever details you can find about the LL Cool J, Jamie Fox fight offset in that movie. Because I am surprised that football hasn't had more good movies made about it in the history of film. I had the same experience. Have you guys had this experience? Can you guys name some of the movies in your life that you've gone back to revisit?

you saw at one age and then saw later because the movie Warriors, I saw in whenever it was, the late 70s, early 80s, and then I revisited it 20 years later, and it doesn't actually hold it up. I had a very bad experience with it watching it 20 years later. Mack Hollins showed up yesterday. He was dancing in the huddle before the one good play in that game, the flea flicker that they threw the ball to him. He appeared at the game dressed up as is it Cyrus?

Cyrus, the guy that was clicking bottles in the Warriors saying, Warriors come out and play. Go ahead and show people the footage of Mack Hollins. I had no proof there were any wide receivers in that football game in the early game played yesterday. I can't believe that Zaslow liked that football game. I did. Put it on the poll at Lebitard Show. did you like watching Patriots Broncos?

There just can't be anybody that liked watching Patriots Broncos. How was that possible? Of course. Smash Mel football. Right here. What do you mean? It was just run the ball. It's Smashout football. But it's run the ball on the line.

Nobody can move. Nobody can see anything. It's stupid. It's a stupid way to decide. It's a stupid way to decide who gets to the Super Bowl. A backup quarterback playing, throwing the ball backwards. Like that was not.

Do we know that was a pass or a fumble? I mean, it was ruled a fumble, wasn't it? It was behind the line. Does Matt Collins know that that was the bad guy and that guy lost in Warriors? That's a play on. It doesn't matter. Spoiler alert. Yeah, man.

We came out 45 years ago. Did any of you watch skyscraper this weekend? Is that the one where the rock has a peg leg? Yep. We don't say peg leg anymore. He jumped from the scaffold to the building, and he actually, his trajectory went up. With a peg leg. Does it have like a special, like hydraulic feet?

I don't know. That's a good question. We can't say pegleg? No. What? Since when? I, the great Jeremy Tachet sticking up for me. I'm an ally.

We could say peg leg, guys. Come on. Skyscraper. Great movie. I wasn't talking about the movie. Is he hanging out from a helicopter in that movie? movie or is that a different movie? I was watching it on mute. That's Hobbs and Shaw. Oh, gotcha. I was watching it on mute. What kind of expertise did Seth Rollins bring to the proceedings

other than energy? But as it built towards the end, did Seth Rollins have something like in terms of analysis? Seth Rollins wasn't in that. Neff Campbell was in it. Not Seth Collins. For those of you who do not know because they can't stop getting off their skyscraper jokes in the rock movie, that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about Netflix, doing what is, you know, every five or ten years, we do something like this where you're going to... Guys going to climb this thing. We're like, wait, what? A famed rock climber is going to do a daredevil stunt live on television where he's going to...

They had to cancel it the day before. It was supposed to be the day before, but in Clement Weather, which is affecting everywhere, except Miami in the United States, made it so that it was unsafe to climb a skyscraper without ropes or nets, which I would say it's always unsafe to do that, but evidently there's weather that makes it more unsafe. Well, and you got to take it to account, and there was a fire, like,

in the middle of the building. Now, Rock didn't know because he was, like, higher up, and it was like the world's tallest building. And also, he helped design it, okay? That's kind of how he knew his way around. But there was a massive fire, like in the middle of the building. So maybe that played

a role, too, and not being able to climb it. I am sick watching this, okay? As I'm watching what he's doing here and seeing the amount of wind that is making. His name is Alex Hennold, and he is doing something here that it makes me queasy to watch this because of the height, obviously, the danger. And the only reason you'd be watching it, correct? Not his name. His name was Will Sawyer.

Is to see if he'll fall or not, right? I saw you had to look that up. You didn't remember off the top of your head, like all of the great characters and movie history. Mike Ryan just summoned the name of the coach on any given Sunday 25 years ago you had to look up the Rock's character name in skyscraper

Everyone knows You mean every I just saw you look it up I just wanted to be sure He's a journalist Dan None of you watch this It was the worst It was the worst kept secret of all time

Like nobody I didn't even know what was happening Nobody said to me Hey there's a guy climbing the tallest building in the world I was like, oh, sick. Nobody said that until after I saw that he reached the top and I was like, oh, okay, he did it. Yesterday, when you say bad, poorly kept secrets, I learned yesterday, not that I didn't totally understand it, but it became a factoid that taught me yesterday. I did not know that Patrick Dempsey was a hitman on a television show until seeing the commercial for it during football yesterday. I need to apologize.

It's Tony Damado. Oh, you idiot. Not Donato. You've got it wrong. I said Donato, it's Domato. Oh, my God. How embarrassed are you right now? I'm pretty embarrassed.

Because other than that, I was nailing my trivia. By the way, Jeremy has an update on the L.O. Cool J. Jamie Fox fight. Yeah, they were supposed to be getting into a heated argument on the sidelines when they were in character. But then Jamie Fox was getting frustrated because L.O. Cool J. was being just a little too aggressive with him during the scene. So when they went to do a second take, L.O. Cool J. was even more aggressive with him. So then Jamie Fox punched him in the face

And so he was like, hey, why'd you do that? He was like, you want to see why? And he had a helmet on. And then he stood there in a fighting stance. And so El O. Cool Jay ripped his helmet off and punched him in the face and knocked him out cold. In his defense, so Willie was changing the plays in the huddle. He wasn't executing the plays that coaches were calling.

Steaming Willie Beeman? And L.O. Coljay was upset because that's eaten into his bonus. Why don't you get the ball there? He's changing the plays in the huddle, coach. And then that fight happened in the sauna where Lawrence Taylor looks terrifying. Jeremy, can you look up for me if Jim Brown was body slammed during that altercation trying to separate them because that L.O. Cool J. tells that story with some pride.

Jamie Fox does not. What do you make of the fact that Mina Kimes, a very ardent Seahawks fan, tweeted this offseason after the Seahawks traded Gino Smith, quote, flat out, this is a terrible move by Seattle. chances of upgrading are extremely low end quote. Did you guys hear or see a lot of Sam Darnold supporters at any point? Who are the Sam Darnold believers and the people who can say like Mike McDonald does today? Oh, Sam shut everybody up. He just had in the biggest game of his life, the best game of his life.

One of the best games a quarterback has ever had under any circumstances. Sam Darnold just had it. you cannot beat Matthew Stafford at his best unless Sam Darnold has that game on third and fourth down. It's basically McDonald and Kubiak are the two guys going to be like, yeah, I told you so. We saw something in Sam. We knew that it was going to translate into our offense. But if you thought in the beginning of the year, I just saw on ESPN, they were 60 to 1 to win the Super Bowl. And you look at what they did in the offseason.

You're like, all right, you get rid of Gino Smith. You're bringing Sam Donald. This offensive line is young. It's not that good. Their defensive line has gotten better. Defense is okay. Mike McDonald's going to do a good job there. But offensively, I didn't know if JSN could be a number one wide receiver.

Boy, did he prove us wrong. He's the best wide receiver in the NFL. And you look at, you know, Ken Walker and you're like, ah, he's kind of gotten hurt sometimes. Sam Donald, you don't know what you're going to get if it was Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota, or is it really Sam Donald? And now with 30 wins under is about the last two years, most winning quarterback in the NFL, you can stand to reason. All right, San Donald's actually pretty good.

Vikings must feel terrible, right? I mean, they're not the only ones. There are any number of people who could have had that as their quarterback. When I keep giving you the stat again and again that the Patriots have done what they have done in the last 25 years since the Dolphins have won a playoff game, half the teams in the league could regret not getting Sam Darnold, and all of them could have had Sam Darnold. Even Seattle wanted Gino Smith to come back. Like that was a Gino Smith call. Gino Smith and Pete Carroll thought that it would be,

something that they could just recreate with the Raiders. And as far as reclamation projects go, that's a super interesting one to me because if you take that quarterback in the top five and you just simply watch him yesterday, you see all the things that you need to see about, oh, that's magical arm strength. That's amazing accuracy. That's pocket awareness. But I'm also used to that coming with three interceptions in a game when I trust it. I'm used to that panicking in the pocket when the pass rush gets ferocious.

The stat I gave earlier on the Rams defense, like allowing points on 40% of your drives in the last nine games, like that doesn't deserve to be in the Super Bowl. Like, you need superhuman MVP play from your quarterback in order to overcome that. The thing to me that's amazing about yesterday is it wasn't a defensive game. Seattle's number one defense did not play like it. Gave you no evidence. anybody tuning in for the first time to watch yesterday what's allegedly the number one defense in the league.

Look, when I watch Denver play, I see a great defense. When I see Houston play, I see a great defense. I'm watching yesterday no evidence of a good defense. Never mind a great defense. Where was the evidence? It's not, they didn't bother Stafford. It wasn't like huge pass rush. There wasn't anything about that Seattle defense that gave off special yesterday.

They came up with the big play in the big moment. I mean, fort down on the goal line. But with a gimmick, but with a gimmick they did it. That's not a gimmick, Dan, that's a scheme. That's situationally great football. You win in the margins in the NFL. I mean, yeah, you're going to let up a ton of points to one of the best offenses. But in the clutch situations, in the places where you need to get a stop, they were able to do what they needed to do.

You say that, but Parkinson dropped the ball that would have been, that he would have just run into the end zone with the ball. It's about who wins. I understand. It's not about who you think is better. It's about who wins. I'm not saying it's about who I think is better, and I'm going to again tell you that it's not that I think the Rams are better. It's that I don't think there's any difference between those two teams.

And if they played a hundred times, it wouldn't surprise me each of them, one 50 times. And in their same division, if San Francisco doesn't, you know, work by a power plant, electrical substation, excuse me, and have all those EMF situations. Who's to say San Francisco is not better than both of them? Don Lebertard.

Go make the frog here live from Meta Lock Media Studios. here in Miami. Stugats. The Germans are advancing on France in World War II. This is the Dan Leibatar show with the Stugats. The thing about the measurements that is interesting to me in that sport is that it's more random than all of the others. Like even hockey and baseball, which could be wildly random, the sample size isn't one game.

They give you five to seven games. to decide something. And Jeremy gave you the stats earlier of what's happened when the Rams and the Seahawks have played. Never mind the last three times this season. In the entirety of them playing, the difference between those teams throughout their history isn't anything.

They are separated this year by a fourth down, by a call is the difference that Seattle goes to the Super Bowl and the Rams don't. And to me, that is kind of nuts that both games yesterday and football in general is so close that you can go into any one of the games, change one of the plays, and change the entirety of the result. And history doesn't remember any of it because we do simplify it right down to it. It doesn't matter who should have won, who could have won. The only thing we care about is who did win. I mean, basketball is kind of the only sport where that doesn't apply.

Well, one game samples. Like, you can get to one game samples, but it's a game seven. Like, generally speaking, we have series as a more accurate measurement, something that at least reduces improbabilities. It can also happen there. But the thing that's frustrating to me about this conversation today, because it's been so normalized, this is how we measure it in football, and it's just how it is, that if I gave you right now Seattle's up two to one in a seven-game series between the Rams and Seattle,

none of you would count the Rams out. Like, you just simply, none of you would do it because there isn't much of a difference between what those two teams were this season and the last time. Like, this one at least wasn't fluky. This one, this is the one that Seattle was most impressive. You know what's funny about this? Seattle might have been the most impressive of all of them in the first one, the one they lost because they had, four turnovers and we're still kicking a field goal at the end to win the game on the road. So the most impressive one of the Seattle defense was certainly the first one.

It wasn't the second one and it wasn't the third one because Seattle's defense over the last month hadn't allowed a 20-yard play. In the last month, they were the best defense in the sport like they were all year. But they were not in this game. Like, how many people before this game, never mind Mina Kimes getting it wrong or everybody getting it wrong or me getting it wrong? How many people before this game would have signed up for the bet, Seattle's defense is going to get ransacked. And Sam Darnold's just going to be better than Matthew Stafford.

Because this was the most lopsided one Seattle had. If not for a dumb unsportsmanlike call, they were up 31, 20, and could have just handled the rest of the game. Because there was no circumstance under which the Rams were going to be stopping Sam Darnold on this day. They weren't even bothering him. Like, there were no, there weren't a bunch of dropped interceptions. There's like one bad throw that Sam Darnold made that could have been picked off. This was, of the games, this was the most impressive one Seattle played. Can I defend Mina Kimes for a second?

All she said in that tweet was, you know, letting go with Gino Smith's a mistake. It's going to be really difficult to upgrade. She didn't say they're not going to upgrade. She didn't know they were going to sign Sam Donald to be really difficult to upgrade. But guess what? They did. They surpassed that difficulty. On a bargain deal looks like now, right?

If you win the Super Bowl, what did it? They paid them $100 billion? I don't think she was wrong. Well, I just, well, she was wrong. No, she thought it would be difficult to upgrade. It was difficult, but they did it. Yeah, it was difficult and they did it. So Bill Bellamy says that during that fight, Jim Brown was not body slammed. It was a separate altercation because there used to be chess played on set.

And that Jim Brown was some of the young guys who were ex-football players, he specifically said a couple of guys who were from Liberty City in particular. He used to get very sarcasmus, hey, you sure you want to use that queen here in this situation? And it just started to really rub guys the wrong way. And they had no idea who Jim Brown was. And so ultimately, the next day after one of those times where a guy had gotten frustrated, just as simple as walking up to Jim Brown, picking him up, body slamming him, right on set. I regard the original longest yard as the best football movie ever made. But I'm guessing that Jeremy and Tony haven't even seen it.

And I'm wondering if it holds up, given that it's a movie. from the 197. The Bert Reynolds one? No one with Sandler? No, that's not the original. That's a horrible movie. That's not the original one. With McChesey, no.

That's not the original. No, Bert Reynolds is the original. Well, Bert Reynolds is in both of them, but Bert Reynolds was the star of the original, and I think Adam Sandler and who else was in the second? Michael Irvin was one of the series. Stone Cold. Bill Goldberg. But Jeremy and Tony have no idea what the original 1970s.

77 longest yard is, right? Do you think, do you imagine that it would hold up? Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Is the original longest yard the best football movie ever made? And does the original longest yard hold up in 2026? Who, that final scene where Bert Reynolds was going to pick up that football? It doesn't. Spoiler alert.

It's not the best football movie ever made Friday Night Lights is. Remember the Titans? What are we doing? No, the last scene, remember the Titans Blows. It can't be remember the Titans. What? the district coach champion that's a legend with a double reverse 80 yards. 80 yard.

You're not even throwing the ball. You're just, I mean, Sunshine, look, sunshine wasn't that fast, and the blocking on that play was ridiculous. You can't have an 80-yard reverse as the climax of the movie. Weird time to argue against Remember the Titans. Between living and dying. I'm a varsity blues man. You can't be.

Yeah. Little Giants. Come on. Varsity Blues, baby. You can't be. What are you now? You're Chris for Wollkin. Talk of a walk, babe.

She got the whipped cream. Come on. They go out of a place And then all of a sudden it's daytime And they're like, oh no, we got a game Do you know that because of varsity blues And somehow the popularity of that movie That thing that those kids did

Where they laid on a highway? No, that was the program. Oh, I'm sorry. Great movie though. No, no, neither of these are great. Yeah, oh, how dare you? How dare you? Do you think you can name five great football movies?

Do you think that you could come up in the history of film because if you're going to give the program great, then you can do it. The program, are you hurt, you injured? The story I was going to tell about the program that I confused with varsity blues, both of them had a stereotypical fat guy in them, right? Both of them, course. Both of them used the down lineman, yes.

The high school kids getting drunk, laying on a highway, and allowing cars to drive over them, that was something that kids were actually starting to do because of that movie. They took it out of the movie. Like, I've never seen the movie. I've never seen the version of the movie with that scene. They took it out. It became in the 80s cliche, hiding under public transit.

Who can forget the Lost Boys clinging to that train track as a train roared overhead. Fly with us, Michael. It's a great movie. Boy, you're on a roll this morning, man. Do you think we wouldn't get consensus? I guess we wouldn't in the room. Roy, do you have a nominee for what it is that you would think is the best football movie ever made? Because these guys are selecting from the discount bin of slop because they are picking all of you.

Slop. I'm calling, remember the Titans. He was trying to be provocative. Are you crazy? Varsity Blues cannot be one of the great football. This is worse than your Fernando Mendoza tape. Yeah, he's calling blockers ahead of him as foo fighters plays off in the distance. Yeah, it's a great movie.

North Dallas 40. 80 for Brady. Remember the Titans was not slop. And I will give you that Remember the Titans was a good movie, not just a good football. ball movie. But the last play takes it out of great. Despite, despite, despite its ending, but I'm with Zaslo on this. The last play, can I, I believe, I believe I yelled at Denzel Washington about that, that that can't be, that can't, that, that was on the air. I think that that, that can't be the way that that game ends. You cannot fool the legendary district coach, because all he's doing

is yelling, watch for the deep pass. Watch for the deep pass. They got one, they got no time left. They got to go 80 yards. And the legendary district coach is yelling, you got to look out for the and then they trick him with a double reverse. It's so bad. You know what prevent defense does, Dan? Prevent defense does, Dan. Prevents you from winning. He didn't account for Rev as a blocker. Come on. Okay, we have the program. We have

Friday night lights. We have Remember the Titans. 80 for Brady. You can't give me two more? Varsity Blues. How do you like that jumble? All right. I'm going to put all of these on the poll, though. It was bad. Little Giants. Come on. I'm going to give you Friday Night Lights, and I'm

going to give you Remember the Titans, but it's all I'm going to give you from among everything that we have mentioned here. Now, the original longest yard needs to go up there. And I think North Dallas 40 does too, but I think North Dallas 40 would also have a hard time holding up. I have a hard time with any movies outside of basically the godfather from the 70s holding up. Does Jerry McGuire count in this situation? No. It's half the movie.

Put it on the poll. Does Jerry McGuire count as a football movie? Because I think it has to count as a football movie. And it's a good selection. I think that you've done well. I put Jerry McGuire. That would get us to five if we're willing to count all of that and not disqualify, remember the Titans because of that last play.

Dan, the program is 80% on Rotten Tomatoes, man. And? Hey, you're wrong. It's a good movie. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Was the program a good movie? I was objecting more to varsity blues than I was. John Voight as the coach, Dan.

I don't want your life. I don't get strokes. mother bleeper. I give him. I'm going to argue that John Void has never been in a good movie. I think I have this wrong. He was in heat. He was in heat. He was in heat.

Was he? He's in heat. He's the finance. With a ponytail. Was he in heat? He was in holes. Someone yell Anaconda at me. They're remaking Anaconda, aren't they? It was already out. Who are they? Critical flop. Who are they remand?

It was with Jack. Black and Paul Rudd. But it's a comedy. But Steve Zahn is in it, and he was in the original. How about that? Wow. How about that? How's that?

I think, was John Voight in one of the Beverly Hills cops? I think he was in the second Beverly Hills Cop. No, he was not in Beverly Hills Cop Dan. Are you sure? No. No. Trust me. I've seen all four of them.

He wasn't in. I think. National Treasure Dan? Weren't there a couple of biker guys trying to kill Eddie Murphy who answered to John Void in one of the Beverly Hills cops? Because I think. There are bikers in another 48 hours. Okay, that's the movie I'm thinking of of John Voight.

So I'll give John Voight that. Bad hour for you, man. You think? Because I'm, because I've forgotten all of John Voight's good roles and somebody shouted Anaconda at me when he got spit up by a giant snake and then got spit up by a giant snake. And then he's a showman. There's six inches in front of your face.