The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: For If The Flies

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

We kick things off with some Florida Panthers hockey, but we can't go for TOO long before the Bucket of Death. Then, Stugotz's Top 5 Drives in Sports, the hype around Anthony Edwards, and Billy wants to celebrate Baker Mayfield and his sparkling personality. Plus, the Reed Sheppard-Steph Curry comparison, some more "Jess or No," and the return of Tony's Refran Del Dia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, Fat Face and the habitual liar. Not to get super local here but I wanted to ask Roy a question

because Roy you're not in the hockey group chat which by the way androids are not the enemy anymore. I think you need to get that straight to people but I was curious as to why I couldn't watch my Florida Panthers in game two of the regular season. There was no local television that I could see, and the ESPN app still blacked it out, even though they're on the road and not competing with any local television. There is local hockey games.

They're on Scripps Sports, which is the CW down here, Childhood 39. I could not find that anywhere. Maybe I don't have the CW down here in China 39. I could not find that anywhere maybe I don't have the CW enough but thank you Roy because the Panthers took their a loss yesterday was two to one there and I have the same record as the Boston Bruins and I saw a note on the board and I don't know if this was Billy being you know helpful being supportive of the Panthers or probably right because that's kind of your thing. You're a helpful cat

I don't know what we're getting at but I would assume helpful. Well, I'm a dog I saw a note that says that Billy hates Panthers, but then it said hate so it's I guess it's you hate Panthers hatred. Yes, I do I hate the disrespect and the hatred that's been thrown towards the Panthers this season. I'm not a fan of it I will say this Right now 500 Club, we're gonna have to kinda turn things around a little bit if we wanna defend Lord Stanley, but.

Hang on, we're gonna get to your real specialty here, which is the bucket of death in a second, but you've clearly been on this hockey bandwagon since last year, but you say disrespect thrown their way. Where has that come from? First of all, yeah, I'm not on the Panthers bandwagon. It's a catwagon. To throw my credentials around, and it's a strange flex,

but I own one of the Kevin Spacey Panthers hoodies. I'll have you know. You didn't throw it away? No, I did, no. Oh, okay, I threw it on home bridge. But at the time. I burned that thing for you. At the time I had one,

so I'm a longstanding Panther fan. I used to have a rubber rat at my house that I'd throw at the television. So I was in it. I was there. So you were afraid that you would damage your television? Those rubber rats aren't light. Well, I was a child.

I didn't have a great arm. Hence why I'm here and not on the diamond. You know what I mean? Anywell. Anywell indeed. What is the process here with the bucket of death? Are we supposed to call for the Reaper? Wait, hold on.

See, this is a Panther's hate that I'm talking about right here. We're just brushing over. What is the process here with the bucket of death? Are we supposed to call for the Reaper? I heard there's supposed to be like... This is a Panthers hate that I'm talking about right here. We're just brushing over, defending Stanley Cup champions, and we're just changing the subject here. This is exactly what I'm talking about. There's no respect for the... Is any well not the perfect transition to get off?

There's no respect for the Panthers. It was. So guys, I don't know if you've seen what's going on with the Panthers and the NHL in general. What? So they're here and people are saying that the Edmonton Oilers are the favorites to win the Stanley Cup.

The Edmonton Oilers that wet the bed and gave one of the regular season? Exactly right, the ones that just choked away the Stanley Cup, all of a sudden they're the favorites. And I have this working theory that I want to run by you guys that I tried to run by Roy, but he was not in a receptive mood when I tried to run it by him. So I'll run it by him again.

Less so today. Really? Why, because of the loss? Well, technically the Panthers lost twice last night because Alexander Barkov got injured. See? What? So things I did not learn because I did not have to see.

Was it in regulation? Yes, he tried to break up an internet goal and slid into the boards. How serious are we talking? They lost a battle and the war. I mean. Yeah, we don't know how serious yet, but we're gonna find out soon.

Wow. Yeah, that's two L's right there. My point is this, and had it been overtime, it would have been just one, if my understanding of hockey is correct. That's correct. So. Regulation. Here's the thing.

I have this strong belief that if the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers changed rosters, the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers changed rosters, the Edmonton Oilers would still be the favorites to win the Stanley Cup. I think that this is a Florida bias and disrespect that is thrown the way of the great municipality, let's call it, of Sunrise, Florida. I don't think that people accept that Florida

is the hockey state now. So it has nothing to do with the difficulties of winning back to back Stanley Cups. No, it has to do with the fact that people don't want to respect that Florida and the Panthers are a hockey powerhouse right now. And they just want to give it to any other team out there, so they're doing it with Edmonton, because they're like a classic hockey team,

whatever, Canada, blah, blah, blah. When in reality, the Florida Panthers, as we all know, us hockey heads, no, are a far superior team. And Connor McDavid, enough of this guy, we don't even need to go down this path again, same old song and dance with him. Should we call in Greg Cody for a visit? That's up to you, you're running the show today,

I'm just here, keep the things moving. He was probably pretty happy in that game one of the regular season because it was confirmed. That it probably was already confirmed during the playoffs last season but double triple confirmed mm-hmm so what is the process with the bucket is this okay is it okay now Billy is this enough we spent the proper amount of time on the Panthers for Izzy to transition over to the bucket of death are you satisfied I don't want you to feel disrespected no I'm not no I'm not the

Panthers are the ones being disrespected. Right, hmm, hmm. Two losses, huh? Does it happen? Do you, so what happens? So are they one and two? Double hockey sticks? Are they one and two now?

They are one, one and zero currently, but yeah. Well how are the two losses then? Well, Alexander Barkov. Barkov, yeah. That's how you do it. Because he got injured. Yeah. Two losses in the same game.

Hmm. Bum. Oh wow. Bum. Bum. The lights go down in here. Because it got injured. D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d It's almost as if this rebound has never been here. I can tell you're never here on days we pull from the bucket. I was here last week. I got the chargers. They're on a bike. I'm here every single day we do a bucket. The Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jaguars are playing in London. Yep. Taking on the Bears. Winnable game is home field for the Jaguars.

Yes. London is home field. You know what? Wow. I'm sticking with the Jaguars. Wow. Godzine. Godzine. A lot of faith at home. Sticking with the Jaguars. I can see Doug Peterson staying in London.

I don't think we even talked about Eric Mangini saying how Woody Johnson was embarrassed to lose in front of all his friends in London and how that was the reason that he fired Robert Saylor. Thank you. Well said. Tony, what did you say? Because you were trampled.

I said Doug Peterson may be staying in London if they lose to the Bears. Oh, wow. There's still a nice little vacation. Keep an eye on that. staying in London if they lose to the Bears. Oh wow. Just took a nice little vacation. Keep an eye on that. Deporting. They make great, oof. This is a place of great burgers.

Oof, not good. Drake May. Not good. Drake May getting his first start. I'm gonna put that back. Yeah, good choice. Might wanna melt that one. So last week, Jess is going in for a second helmet.

I had the Bucks with my first helmet and I put it back in and took the Falcons. Ha ha ha ha. Nice. You lucky. Kansas City Chiefs. They're on a buy. Oh, buy, congratulations.

I haven't lost in the bucket in like two years, I think. Lucky you. Same. Wait a second, there should be an investigation. No, she didn't lose last year. Last year I think I lost one time. We just looked innocent, but she's probably cheating. I haven't done a bucket punishment in two years, so that's it. Yeah

Four years feel you don't worry. I've done it for all of you. All right here. We go. Let's see what this is We've got the le Rams. Oh, yeah They're also on a body. I keep it there you go Wow excellent, yeah Well done, man. They both have buys and I have the jack or but you chose the jaguar I did one and a half points. Yeah, but home away from home. I mean I got the Browns play the Eagles this weekend That's must win it back. I think they're contracting Tony they have to go to Jamis Winston at some point some poo. I got the Big Apple

Who any new any New York team? Yeah? I know Yeah, I think about this Liberty in game two take the Yankees all right. Yankees game one of the ALCS must win Billy Tough game for the NFL New York teams Bengals and Bills Respectively, what about the Mets or the Yankees anybody on a bike? Had the Indianapolis Colts looking at the MLS they play the Titans on the road winnable game? No, no.

Roy, Roy, you also have put back a ton of winners. Let's not forget that. The Wizard of Oz. Ooh. Ooh, Lion, Tiger, or Bear. I have a question on this, OK? So you got the Big Apple one, correct, Billy? Yeah, that's right.

So you have to pick a New York team. But what if one New York team is playing another New York team? A New York team has to win. Isn't that basically a buy for you? Do you have to pick one of those deals? You gotta pick the New York team. Yeah, you have to specify.

Pick one. Right. I don't know, I think you should go with Bills at Jets and just call that game. Tarek Scoobble, Roy. Tarek Scoobble. I will let you know in a second. Well, I'm wondering, are the Giants off? No. No, theyrix Google. I'll let you know in a second. Well, I'm wondering are the Giants off?

No, no, they are not goes at the Giants your one Take the Giants building. Well army plays at West Point in New York They did you could take I could combine this in the toy FYS. Yeah, I think they might be a big favorite this week I'm gonna go with army just because I love our troops so much Okay, right that yeah, also a small other caveat Also like the Enrique Iglesias one mark Anthony. I didn't know army and Navy were in the same conference I was remembering army as an independent school Yeah, they would actually play in the conference championship I've been told before they play Long rummage right now

Make sense of them in the American athletic Blake Horvath and them boys watch out for the midshipman the Browns Putting it back in telling you you should melt that I have to put it back. I think they're contracted helmets stay out You can actually pick it twice. Mm-hmm would be really bad luck anyone but the Browns Last time we checked that all the helmets are actually in there. There's an inventory every year this every year. Yeah Yeah, not every week. No, I mean come on No, because Billy's got to put the good one up his sleeve. How dare you the Vikings? They're on a buy. Yes!

Wow! This is unbelievable. They win. Yes! This guy, Jeremy, it's not looking good for you. The odds are you are going to... Am I the only person who presently has taken an NFL game where there will be results? Yes.

Yep. Two buys, Army, Roy hasn't picked yet. Ooh, I got the Indianapolis Colts and former Gator who's not playing right? I don't know yet. He started practicing a little bit. I have no interest in the Upgrade all-famer. Yes, no doubt Bo Nicks and the Denver Broncos. All right, they host the Chargers. Three point dogs at home. I actually don't hate that, Izzy. I mean, I do. Denver has a very, very, very good defense.

That doesn't really help me very much. It doesn't soothe you? Tony doesn't hate it. It should soothe you. No, no. Bo Nicks, three and two this season. No, and I'm sure who's got it better than the Chargers? Nobody.

And they're coming off two losses. Coming off a bye, too. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're going to take that game. All right, I'm going to go with the Detroit Lions because everybody else sucks the Detroit So you picked the lion got the Cowboys? Award winner yeah, yeah Tigers Lions at the Cowboys three-point favorites on the road, Terrick Scoobel Why would you pick the lion? I'm also taking the Clemson Tigers. Yeah, I Didn't have much time to look everywhere

I was looking at college gonna pick the Cubs that don't play until next year. I mean, it's Roy's helmet It's his choice. I wouldn't take the Tigers baseballs random man The Mets are four games away from making it to the series The Bruins would be the Bears in this situation Okay, what? saying Lions, Tigers, and Bears. Or not even, okay. Yeah, the Bruins would be the Bears.

Just like UCLA would be the Bears in college. Good point. Well another team that's on a buy. Zurys got UMass. Good bucket. God damn it man, come on. Cal Bears. You could have taken your time on that one.

I was trying to take my time and then you picked. Now. I didn't know there was a time limit. You could have taken till next week. Well it's final now Sorry. It's locked in Right the Jets are on a buy are they Five lists of funniest outcomes during the Monday night football game one of them being Aaron Rogers throws for like 500 yards and three touchdowns and they look really good

But then they go on like a 10 game losing streak after. This is perfect, he gets the extra day to talk about the Jets and everybody's gonna be watching, but Stu, Aaron Rodgers, like what, he went on McAfee and he said that he was unhappy, right, with the tone or that people suggested that he had something to do with the firing of Robert Sala? He resents that the media and fans are speculating

that he had something to do with the firing of Robert Sala. I don't care what he resents that the media and fans are speculating that he had something to do with the firing of Robert Salla. I don't care what he resents. I resent all three interceptions last week. I resent how he's played through the first five weeks. I resent the torn ACL last year. I resent him lying about the vaccine. Whether he's telling the truth or not, OK, Aaron Rodgers has put himself in a position where people are going to think he is the reason the Jets head coach got fired. And if you the Jets

and I firmly believe this, okay? Because Rodgers has a conversation with Woody Johnson. Woody Johnson has never fired a head coach in the middle of the season. While the season is going on, in his entire time owning the New York Jets. He's never done it. So, they have a conversation the night before and then Woody Johnson for the first time since he has owned the New York Jets, woke up one morning and say, today's the day. I am going to fire my head coach for the first time since I started owning the New York Jets organization. I don't think you do this, okay? I don't think you do this.

You don't think you fire the coach. I don't think you fire the coach unless you're trying to beat the other organizations to one of two guys, Bill Belichick or Mike Vrabel because those two guys, and by the way, Aaron Rodgers, what is he worried about? Like, why is he worried about the resentment? Robert Sal is a bad coach. So you're saying Woody Johnson and the Jets. I give Aaron Rodgers, what is he worried about? Like, why is he worried about the resentment? Robert Sal is a bad coach. So you're saying Woody Johnson. I give Aaron Rodgers a standing ovation for getting Robert Sal a fire, whether he did or not.

And I believe that he did. I give him a standing ovation. But if you're Woody Johnson and you're headed in to one of the biggest jet games in the last 10 years, a game for first place Monday Night Football against the Bills, Why would you fire your head coach unless you're going after one of these two guys, which they're both gonna be hired, I would guess,

before the end of this regular season. He wanted to beat the other teams to Mike Vrabel or Bill Belichick. That better be the reason they did this. So Woody Johnson started the season and said to himself, if the Jets don't look great by a quarter, maybe a third away into the season, I'm going hard after Vrebel or Belichick.

I'm going to beat everybody else to it. That's your theory on the Jets? Yes, yes. And Izzy, understand this. You have Robert Salla, they're headed it, like the Jets have had worse starts than this, okay? It hasn't been great, but it hasn't been the worst, okay? And they have a game for first place.

Why would you take the head coach away from that six days before the game unless you were gonna make a major move, a major move? So maybe what he sees how this game goes with the Buffalo Bills, but at some point, he's gonna be talking to Belichick or Raybal if he hasn't done so already. I just think you look at the situation

and you see how bad, the amounts of changes they made, the offensive play caller, you know, I thought Hackett was, you know, Aaron Rodgers' guy, and then he gets sort of demoted in that sense, and you just looked at it and said, look, this is just a disaster. It's going to only get uglier. Might as well just scramble everything right away.

Like, I don't think he had that idea of, hmm, let me maybe go get Vrabel or Belichick. First of all, I don't think Belichick and Aaron Rodgers can coexist, especially not on short term. Really? Yeah, not without an off season, not without a whole like, maybe even an ayahuasca session together. But if you're Aaron Rodgers and you're playing for the now

and that's all he has is now, right now, this year, maybe next year, wouldn't you want the best head coach to give you the Best chance of winning I would I don't think Aaron Rodgers thinks that he needs Bill Belichick I think Aaron Rodgers and say give me a rah rah guy and a decent offensive Coordinator and I'll take it from there The problem is his decent offensive coordinator is a hack

Right like hit the whole idea was a moded hack a demoted hack that they took play calling duties from but if you look at It Aaron Rodgers this guy was Nathaniel Hackett We know he's a bad offensive play caller because they've had the worst offense through four weeks And then they put it to another guy who's also a bad play caller So it just looks like they have a ton of black bad play callers in that offensive system And then you're gonna bring in another coach who's gonna mesh not mesh with those guys It's a recipe for disaster But I could see this having happening during the conversation between Aaron and Woody Johnson,

where Aaron is getting Robert Salla fired and they concoct a plan so it doesn't look like Aaron's running the team and that plan is, hey, hack it, demotion. Well, that sort of leans into my, as soon as I saw Woody Johnson's quote, saying it's probably, and I don't know if you've done this list before,

it seems to be right up your alley, the top five lies that are said in sports on the regular. I think I've done it. Because, yeah, it sounds familiar. Because the owners saying this decision was mine and mine alone, definitely top five of lies said every single time. Especially when you're going out of your way to say it.

Like you're going out of your way to make the point to the media and the fans. Hey, this is on me. This had nothing to do with him. We all know it had something to do with him. We all know it. I don't care if he resents me or anyone for saying that. He's earned this. Well, it should have something to do with other people because anybody making a unilateral decision like that and shocking everybody else in the building, probably not great.

And by the way, if Woody said, hey, do you want me to fire Robert Salla? And Aaron's response was yes, I'm good with that. Totally good with that. My favorite is so-and-so is our guy. That's a good one. Because it's always, the subtext is so-and-so, not our guy. Josh Rosen, not our guy.

How about when a coach, after they lose a game, like in the NFL, the loss is on me? I don't think he thinks that. I think he thinks the loss is on them. How about any player who says I never read anything that's out there? Oh, that's the biggest lie. That's the biggest lie.

That's the biggest lie. But, Too well. So guys, I think they have to, that one you have to say, because if they say the opposite, they get crushed, right? Like, that loss is on the quarterback. It's like, you're throwing your team under the bus. I have to lie and

say that one's on me guys. It's like coaching one on one. The wins, the wins, the players get the credit, the losses, the coach takes all the blame. Leadership. Yeah. Yeah. That's leadership, right? But it's fake leadership in most cases. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Of course. You just kind of sell it, Tony. Welcome to the offensive line. You guys on this podcast, we're gonna make some picks, talk some **** and hopefully make you some

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So I was thinking about, because we're talking football here, going to top five drives, but I don't even know if top five drives has anything to do with football. What was the genesis of your top five drives? We were saying yesterday that the drive into work was the smoothest drive we have ever had. Me, Chris Cody, anyone who comes up from Broward County. Me. It was, it's the drive after. Down from Broward County. A hurt, down, thank you.

A hurricane threat which did not impact your actual area. Right. Because everyone stayed home yesterday. So no one was on the road. Like a snow day where it doesn't snow. Yes. So that's where it came from. So I have top five tracks here.

Okay, so that's not the natural transition. So we'll naturally move to NBA basketball. Right. But you asked me and I didn't know what to do with it. I just wanted to get clarity. I kinda wanna hear about the drives though. Are there any golf drives? Like, why is it?

There are no golf drives. There's only bad, you don't remember good golf drives. You only remember bad ones. Like, Mickelson, US Open, 18th hole, right. Went off the roof, the roof, roof? Roof. I think it's roof or roof. number one. Number bad ones like Mickelson US Open 18 pole right. One off the roof. Uh the roof. Roof. Roof. I think it's roof or roof. Tomato situation.

So, I do have top five drives. Uh I do not have a drive uh from a golf tournament. No. Darn. Do you want to go now or do you want to say? Number five. Alright, we're here. The drive. Denver Broncos against the Cleveland Browns 1987 John Elway took him 98 yards on the road got the

Broncos to the Super Bowl. Classic. So it is a football list. Number four the drive for five. Highlanders won four Stanley Cups in the 80s back to back to back to back. I had the drive for five poster up in my room. They didn't get it done.

They lost to Edmonton in the Stanley Cup Finals because Wayne Gretzky took over the sport. So the Drive for Five was just a reminder that they won four. We stalled right at the very end, but it was a good drive. It was. The most memorable drive is the one that they didn't win. Got it. Yes, well, it was the Drive for Five.

Yes. Number three, Ocean Drive. Ocean Drive. I like Ocean Drive. I mean. Lot of memories there. I like the art deco. I like Ocean Drive. Lot of memories there. I like the art deco. It's really cute.

It's not my favorite drive. Lot of murders. Perhaps this is number two, Rodeo Drive. Oh yeah, it's not my first Rodeo. I love Rodeo Drive. What'd you say? It's not your first Rodeo, that's good. I think I stole that line from like,

From me? No, was it? No, I think it was from Mike Myers maybe. Number one, the drive home from work when you have a week off on the horizon. I will sit in traffic for hours and not complain. I don't care how long it takes me to get home. I'm off for a week.

Just let everybody in. It's like, no, go ahead, merch, that's fine. Are you off next week? No. Okay. You didn't tell Billy, so. I never know what's going on. I'm here, I've been.

I'm just checking. I'm just saying, when you have that drive home and you know you have 10 days off because you have the two weekends and then you have the full week, that is a great drive. It's a great drive, and that drive is always the driver. I'm like, instead of putting on

one of my normal sports podcasts I'm like, I'm gonna listen to a movie podcast. So I'm not gonna be talking about sports tomorrow Sinophome that means you're relaxed. You're on vacation Kind of like a lazy river Yeah, you know what I watched yesterday Jess because we talked about this last week last week. I was I watched Halloween 3 What did you watch? There is one? I watched the Eli Manning costume show with Baker Mayfield. Oh really?

I watched the 30 minute episode. All 30 minutes? All 30 minutes. It's a full episode, so it's like, I guess they're doing this with multiple people. Is this on ESPN Plus? No, Amazon. Oh, okay.

Yeah, so Eli has a show where now, I guess, because of his Penn State prank that he did, he's gonna have people dressed up and kind of interacting with fans, whatever. And it was a Baker one, and I thought it was just like, okay, it was a long bit that they did. No, it's a whole episode. It was so wholesome, so great.

It was so nice. You should watch it. I will watch it. Baker's a real, he's a real winner lately. I feel like the whole world's kinda rallied behind Baker. We're like, you know what? Real sweetheart in this episode. Baker's a real, he's a real winner lately. I feel like the whole world's kind of rallied behind Baker. We're like, you know what? Real sweetheart in this episode. You're a sweetie pie.

Yeah, I saw him and I was like, I like him. Anybody who can still get Tom Brady rankled, I'm a fan of. Like Tom Brady acting like a 15 year old in a booth, saying, hey, I thought winning was everything. And it's just like, man, when is he gonna get over that? When is he gonna stop being the jerk? Winning is everything. Yeah, but he's not playing anymore.

He was funny. He's trying to win the media now. Baker Mayfield, have a moment. Yeah, but he's not playing anymore. He's funny. He's trying to win the media now. Baker Mayfield, have a moment. Yeah, funny guy, Baker Mayfield. He is funny. Likeable. Dancing. I liked him, yeah.

They're really leaning into that disguise show thing because the fact that they're doing that with Baker Mayfield and all of these other people on Amazon and then they're also creating the show with Glenn Powell where he's doing it in a scripted show. It's sort of like when, like right now with the Menendez brothers where they have a documentary out and there's also the show with actors in it

where they always take the same stories and the OJ made in America and also People vs. OJ at the same time, they're clearly leaning into, hey, this worked, so let's do as much of it as possible. But Baker, I'll watch all of it. I don't wanna ruin this for Eli Manning. It's Peyton, Peyton, Peyton, so let's do as much of it as possible. But Baker, I'll watch all of it. I don't want to ruin this for Eli Manning. Is Peyton, Peyton, Peyton, Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning, part of that too.

I don't want to ruin it for them, but listen, any other college coach, any other coach, assistant coach in the country, if some guy, some unassuming looking guy comes in and starts throwing 70 yard bombs down the field, it's probably a prank. You should just start guessing which quarterback this is now. I don't think you can do a third one of this.

Well, here's the thing is that they wait until the end for that, right? So like he had like a whole. Further reveal. Yeah, yeah, it was like a four hour tour of the facility in the preseason. It was just for season ticket holders. And he, I mean, some of the stuff that you throw out there,

like they had this giant screen and he just asked questions. It's like And he, I mean, some of the stuff that you throw out there, like they had this giant screen, and he just asked questions, and it's like, Baker, come on, you're gonna draw too much attention to yourself. Where like, it's one of those giant projection screens in like their meeting room or whatever, and he just raised his hand, he's like, is that 1080p?

And it's like, Baker, why are we asking the specifics of the television here? Yeah. Volcano. Good little episode. If you guys have about 32 minutes at your disposal, I'd suggest it. Well, first on my list, I still gotta get to this NBA. What's the NBA one called, Starting Five?

Starting Five, yeah. Dude, my wife has been locked in on Starting Five. She's on episode five of Starting Five. She's like, wow, NBA is exciting. I was like, I told you. I only saw two clips. I saw the Jimmy Butler talking about his father clip. And then I saw the end of the episode

where they kind of introduce Anthony Edwards. Is that what that is at the end of an episode? I don't know what's going on. And they are trying to paint him as such a badass. And I like it. Don't get me wrong. I am a little bit on the same page. I'm not certain he wants to be painted that way though.

That's the funny thing about it. Anthony Edwards? I think he does. Really? I think he definitely does. They're making comparisons and he's like, nah, nah, nah, nah, I'm not that guy. it. Anthony Edwards? I think he does. Really? I think he definitely does. They're making comparisons and he's like, nah, nah, nah, I'm not that guy, I'm not that, I'm not Kobe, is he doing the respect thing?

Of course. He's doing the hey, it's all of my team, don't worry about it. There was a podcast that I saw a clip of, I'm not sure of the podcast, I'm sorry about that, but a guy, David Jacoby was on, you remember Jacoby from Jalen and Jacoby, right? Where he said, I'll give you a take that nobody's got.

Ant is overrated. And I kind of agree with him. I just do, God's had that take last year. I did, yeah. Right, because of the Michael Jordan comparisons, right? Well, just because I think he's overrated. Yeah, I mean, look, he's a fun player, he's going to be probably the best,

you know, he's gonna be one of the best two guards ever if he keeps on this path, but he's not quite there yet. Like he had a great series against Phoenix Suns and his boyhood idol, Kevin Durant, but what happened to him the next series? Like I think whenever he struggles or shoots inefficiently, people aren't gonna be on him yet. They're not gonna give him all types of pressure yet.

So I do think Anthony Edwards sort of, you know what? It's gotta be a skating segment for Chris Cody. Right at the beginning of the NBA season, Anthony Edwards skating. Because if he's shooting inefficiently this year, I guarantee you nobody's gonna complain or they're just gonna blame Julius Randall for clogging the floor.

The problem is we go right to Michael Jordan with the comparisons, which is totally unfair to Anthony Edwards, because you put the expectations in an unreasonable place. How about we start with being Dwayne Wade first? Yeah, well, that's a great point. How about we start with making it to an NBA final? Well, it's a great point with Dwayne Wade, right?

Because in year three, he took down a Pistons team that had won a title and then went and beat the Mavericks, putting up 40 something points in Multiple playoff games in the finals So if you can get to be Dwayne Wade then you could take the step to being Koby and Michael and those guys and Anthony Edwards Is amazing but like Shay Gilder's Alexander is a better basketball player than Anthony Edwards is right now Right and he needs to continue to ascend But what it is that he has that some of these other guys

don't have is he does have the it factor. He has that swagger about him. He does, yep. He has a confidence, and it's a relaxed confidence off the court, and then a cocky and competitive confidence on the court. So what it is is we're all trying to will him into being the guy we hope he is

from a personality standpoint. Because he's so much fun to watch and he's so much fun to pay attention to. You can stop about three steps short of Michael Jordan when you start the comparison. Oh yeah. And there was another comparison. That's Dwayne Wade, I like climbing the stairs

and each stair has a name. It's Wade and then it's LeBron and then it's Kobe. You gotta get to Jerry West, Dwayne Wade, Kobe Bryant. You gotta jump for all those people. So it's a silly comparison, and I saw, or at least Tony showed me, a different, what I thought to be silly comparison from our boy Tom Haberstrow, who said now,

his name is Reed Shepherd, he's a rookie for the Houston Rockets, he's from Kentucky, he's of the one and done modes of Kentucky guards where you're just like, I don't know if I saw enough of him out of college, but maybe he's from Kentucky, he's of the one and done modes of Kentucky guards where you're just like, I don't know if I saw enough of him out of college, but maybe he's gonna be something in the pros, same thing happened with Tyler Hero, same thing happened with, I mean, probably Jamal, Jamal Berry wasn't one and done, but,

Tom Haberstro made the comparison, said, Reed Shepard is the closest thing to who, Tony? To Steph Curry. Get the hell out of here. It's the, this is the closest thing to who Tony? To Steph Curry. Get the hell out of here. It's the, this is the, this is the headline. NBA analyst believes Reed Shepard is the closest thing he's seen to Steph and Curry in a long time. Wow.

That is loaded. So we jumped from, all right, and is Michael Jordan to now Reed Shepard. Anthony Edwards has done something in the NBA. Right. Not maybe playoff wise, but he is a force in the NBA. Reed Shepard hasn't stepped on an NBA court yet and played a single second of NBA basketball officially.

And he's already being compared to the greatest shooter we will ever see in our lifetimes. Correct me if I'm wrong here. This was considered a semi-week draft, right? Sure. Reed Shepard was drafted what, third? That's right. Shocking. Shocking. I think that he probably shot up the draft boards. Curry was seventh or eighth,

right? Right. And Reed is joining a Rockets team that frankly is pretty loaded. Like they've got Jalen Green who just made a jump last year, probably going to make another jump. And then Thompson's going to, I mean if he doesn't get hurt, that dude's going to dominate. Are you telling us the Rockets are going to be sneaky good? Sneaky good. I mean if Sengun was hurt the second half of last season, wasn't there. I mean it's he doesn't get hurt, that dude's gonna dominate. Are you telling us the Rockets are gonna be sneaky good? I mean, if Sengoon was hurt the second half of last season, wasn't there, I mean, not even mentioning like Jabari Smith, you got a lot of guys that are just really, Cam Whitmore. A very young team too.

Very young, and yet you're telling me that this Reed Shepard is so good that he is going to infiltrate that whatever, that nine man group and not only be a contributor, but give you flashes of Steph Curry. That to me sounds so crazy, but then again, he was drafted, as Stu said, four or five spots higher than Steph Curry, so the expectations should be there, no?

He shot 52% from three, his only season at Kentucky, but when you look at what Steph Curry was able, like Steph Curry, and I think Tom Haverstrow, I think Amin, somebody has done something on this, like the moment basketball changed, the way that we play basketball now, changed when Steph Curry got into the league. Is Reid Shepard the kind of guy that is going to change

the way basketball is gonna be played? No, well, if you're following Steph Curry, then you're not then again changing it. You're just doing, you're just sort of sliding into his void. You're doing what Kobe did with Michael. Right. And again, like, what is, is he similar size, Reid Shepherd? He's probably around 6'5", if I remember right.

But there's a couple of things that have to happen there. Yes, he was the number three pick. Is he going to be a featured player for this team? No, like early on in his career, the Warriors weren't supposed to be anything. There was Steph, there was Monte Ellis, there was Clay in there, but they were featuring those guys. So they said, wow, these guys are good.

There's no chance. There's no chance that with Shangoone, with Green, with all these players in there, that Reed Shepard is going to be somebody they even come close to featuring. So how are we ever going to get to the Steph Curry comparison? And this, I'm asking, how about we get going to get to the Steph Curry comparison? And this, I'm asking, because I respect Tom Havistro. How about we get to Isaiah Thomas first?

Right, the steps, right? Steph Curry's on that second step. Well, probably the first step. Let's get to Kyle Korver first. Well, on the steps of point guard, Steph Curry might be at the very top. Might be second, but shooters, let's go shooters. He's at the very top.

Well, no, Larry Bird is. Wow. We're still doing Shot for Your Life. You're still going later? I just, I. He's the very top. Well no, Larry Bird isn't. Wow. We're still doing Shot for Your Life. You're still going Larry? I just, I think Bird's the better shooter. Maybe they share the top stuff? Steph Curry. Yeah.

It's crazy Tony, I know. I do appreciate that the front of the quote from Habistro is, he's not Steph Curry, but he's the closest I've seen to it in a long time. And his argument was sort of of this rookie class is weak. He expects that this will be the best player from this rookie class. He expects it by the end of the season. A lot of people will be seeing more of Reed Shepherd.

He might crack that rotation and his biggest argument is that the volume wasn't there on his three point shooting at Kentucky. He shot a really high percentage that he expects because the Rockets could use to have a guy just firing off threes and opening up the floor that his volume will get there and the efficiency will remain the same and so as a rookie you'll feel like hey here's a guy who has the same height and weight as Steph Curry running around shooting a bunch of threes. So Tom's just saying he's a really good shooter. Yeah we could have we could have stopped

Yes because the thing that makes Steph Curry isn't just the shooting, it's the movement, it's the balance, it's every shot is the same every single time. There is no other shooter out there like him. When people try to make the Trey Young comparison and then you watch Trey Young play, and it's like, they don't play the same, they take crazy shots.

He's just shooting from half court. But they don't play the same. And so I'm curious because I'm very, again because I respect Tom Averstrow and his basketball opinion and how much he watches, and because the Rockets are my second team ever since Amann Thompson got drafted over there. And so if that happens, I'm all about it. I'm just trying to temper my own expectations here

because that's crazy. We gotta take the stairs. Jesser, no. Colorado, Kansas State is a sneaky big game. Oh, I'm gonna go with Jess Every big 12 game this year I think is a sneaky big game big game because the big 12 is a conference where I don't really know Who the best team is and who's gonna win currently? Texas Tech is at the top of the conference

with three conference wins, but BYU is up there. UCF, unfortunately, they're out of it, Jer-Bear, I'm sorry. But a lot of teams have like one, they're like one and one in the conference so far, and so as conference play opens up, I think they're all big games. Colorado, like, we've seen them be pretty explosive at times on their offense.

They've got one of the best players in college football playing for them. Someone that I think should be in your contention to win the Heisman Trophy. He's appointment television. You'd be shocked if Texas lost to Oklahoma. Jess or no? Jess.

I do think, rivalry games, there's always- Ewers is back though. Yeah, Ewers is back. They're always gonna be kind of weird and funky But I do think Texas is a lot better than Oklahoma because I think Oklahoma will struggle to score points now if they can keep Texas from you like you know keep them low scoring like 20 points 21 points 24 points I think they have a real shot But I think it's gonna be hard for them to score multiple touchdowns, unless they're doing it on defense,

unless they're turning the ball over on defense, getting a pick six here, getting an interception there, force fumble there. I think Venables is a great defensive coordinator and is gonna have this defense ready to go. He's obviously the head coach, not the defensive coordinator, but this is his defense. I have a quick update here

that I'd like to run by you guys in terms of the bucket of death, because I don't wanna head into the weekend with controversy, because I feel like what happens by you guys in terms of the bucket of death because I don't want to head into the weekend with controversy because I feel like what happens is there's a lot of controversy and then people get mad and say oh you guys aren't taking it seriously. So a fan reached out on Twitter and pointed out that in the Wizard of Oz, this fan asked

should the person not be allowed to take anyone from Kansas as well, which is a great question. Because they're not in Kansas anymore. So like a Kansas, Kansas state, Kansas is a big thing in The Wizard of Oz, so should we allow Kansas to be in play for any of this? Is anybody ever going to pick a Kansas city? They're not their chiefs.

The chief Kansas city? But isn't the whole point we're not in Kansas anymore? I'm just asking the questions because I don't want to have the controversy and Luke I wouldn't take the Jayhawks at all this season In football ever they're off to a terrible start that seems like the magic has gone there But is Kansas City allowed as part of cuz Kansas is in the name is it even if it's not Yeah, which would make it more Kansas is in the name, even if it's not in Kansas. We'll think about that. Then you're not in Kansas anymore.

Yeah. Which would make it more accurate. Well then, could you take any team that's not Kansas? Kansas City Chiefs are not in Kansas, so it's more Wizard of Oz-y, I would say. Let's talk about this some more. I agree. At another time. We could think about it.

This information would have been great 30 minutes ago. Well, I'm asking because I'd like to loosen the iron fist and make it a tin fist at the moment And offer you the opportunity to change. You know, they're just gonna have the commissioner back on and have Sarah I am the commissioner. I mean, you know the ex-commissioner and Sarah. You know, we have a Refran del dia today. I picked the chiefs. Do we? Oh, okay. I don't know if that's allowed. We have to table it. You already took the lions. Yeah, you already took the lions. And there's an addendum in the rules. We can't both pick the chiefs. No, no, no, no.

That's for next week. OK. All right. That's great. Roy, no one made you choose the lions really quickly. You could have taken time. Yeah, I was taking time, Jessica. Or the tigers.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Tarek Scoobel. Right. Mm. We heard you the first time. Yeah. Just want to mention.

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But it's like our souls have been friends for longer. That's my boy. I love Frankie. It's nice, buddy. Soul buddies, exactly right. All right, guys, let's remind people how to do this. We have phrases on a wheel. We spin said wheel. Whatever phrase comes up, I tell you.

Yeah Billy, so you're gonna have to find the wheel. You know how this works, Billy. I don't know why you don't. I am not the EP. Here we go. He woke up this morning, he was not the EP. Yeah. Well, whatever. Not my problem. There we go. Alright, it's spinning. It's spinning. Ooh. Oh, an interesting one. Okay, so this one doesn't really mean what I'm gonna say.

If that makes sense. Okay, today's pre-fandadilla brought to you by La Makin' An Hulu is Porcilas Moscas. Billy, can you hit the you have to hit the sounder Billy fanfare fanfare? That have something to do with a fly what's the literal trend? Thank you the little the literal translation is if for the flies if for the fly yeah, but see la mocha if for the flies But what it really means is I I'm going to do this just in case. Por si las mocas is just in case I'm going to. Por si acaso. Por si acaso, but por si las moca.

Yeah, that's better. That's better? You can say it on mic. Por si acaso is better. Por si acaso is better, but that's not the same. No, por si las mocas is better. Por si las mocas. Just in case.

Just in case. I'm going to bring this food home. You know when you're at a big family dinner, and they're like, bring some food home por si las mocacha And then you're like, you know what? Yeah, okay fine How do you say boogers in Spanish? Mocos. Yeah, Mocos. It's very close. I feel like this whole week was pocilas mocha. Yeah Yeah, just in case. Yeah, exactly right. We were ready for the hurricane. Hurricane preparedness pocilas mocha. That's exactly right That's what all those people who go to Publix

and just wipe out all the water, except for Dasani. Nobody wants Dasani water. I saw one video. Dasani water's not bad. I saw a video of all the shelves out, and there was nothing but Dasani water on the bottom. Left right there. It's a big old bottle.

What happened? Oh, wow. Yeah, I got it. I took it all. Hey, I didn't say I don't like Dasani. I was just saying what was available at Publix or it's possible at the sunny We love just stocks up more at these public So maybe they're just but you make sure you get a pussy like mocha just in case just in case Milton made a little

Bit of a swerve we had everything ready again. I used to think that that had to do with mosquitoes instead of flies for some reason I don't know why because in my mind it was like hey, let's do this so we don't get bitten by mosquitoes. But it had nothing to do with it. No. It was just too literal. The beautiful thing about Spanish is that sometimes words in English and Spanish mean the same thing. So mosquito in English, mojito. Yeah. Can I tell you, when I was a child... That's a cognate. It is. Atta boy. Look it up. No, I like it. I agree with you. I don't have to look it up. I like it. Yep. Oh, can I tell you my new favorite't even have to look it up, I like it. Yep. Oh, can I tell you my new favorite thing?

Words that sound the same in English and Spanish. How about that? And mean the same, Cogney. My new favorite thing on the show. No. My mind is blown. Is when Tony's right about something and confidently right about something,

but Dan thinks he's wrong, and then Dan gets proven wrong. Oh man. I mean, not that Tony needs a bigger head, but it's such a great feeling just to watch and then Dan's like, hmm, what did it happen? What was the biblical reference that you mentioned? Writing on the wall, yeah.

Ah, yes. And I knew it, but you know. You're just full of information. Some useless, some not. He's full of something. Hey, what do you wanna throw? All right. Okay.

Oh, no, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Sorry, it had to be. I deserve it. Alright. Okay. Oh no! Right out! Oh! Oh! Sorry it had to be. I deserve it. So who peed during this lazy river? Splash. Stygosted. I did for sure. Jeremy's been quiet.

Multiple times. I never saw him get up once. Yeah. I don't really smell anything though. Doesn't really smell like chlorine in here. I saw it. Smells terrible. I think that's Willow.

Smells like heaters? Check the clock. Wow. I did get that cuff of smoke in the. Smells like haters. Check the carpet. I did get that cuff of smoke in the air after he came in after the break, and I was just like, wow, I am living Dan Lebatard's life. That was the secondhand smoke.

It's like smelling salt. You're like, ah. Yeah. I'm awake. It'll either wake me up or give me lung cancer. But either way. They put me in front of a quarterback when he's concussed. Take a rip of the sig?

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