The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: GIVE ME THAT THEME MUSIC!

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:54 WFAT, from sea to shining sea Our callers are doing our jobs for free WFAT. Outside of Jorge Sedano, I don't think there's anyone in the history of this market who knows where Stugatz's skeletons are buried. More than Zaslow, he has seen every incarnation of the Stugatz. From hungry to lazy to what you are right now, Stugatz,
Starting point is 00:02:31 which is fully engaged. This is, Stugatz is working five days this week. It's the first time I can remember that, and I do not know how long, and it's because the Knicks matter, and he is now programming WFAT. I am not happy with our guest list today, which is New York aggressive. And Jaz, I'm gonna need your help
Starting point is 00:02:51 beating some of this back because Stugatz is, you always wanna harness the maximum Stugatz energy, but the New Yorkization of what it is that we're doing around here makes me uncomfortable. Yeah, you guys are feeling so good right now. You're gonna come crashing down soon though. It looks like your team's breaking down a little bit. Jalen Brunson, OG Ananobe, only so many injuries you could take.
Starting point is 00:03:15 OG was great last night. I gotta tell you, he kept us in the game when Brunson went out. Enjoy while you can. Yeah, what do you mean, while I can? While you can! Enjoy while you can! Dazzle, I haven't enjoyed this in 30 years. I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it, yes! I will say a couple of things about what is happening here that is wonderful to watch.
Starting point is 00:03:35 One, it's the most lovable Knicks team of my lifetime. Bar none. You can have whatever it is that you hate about those jerseys. It might be the only But those players Josh Hart playing more minutes than Will Chamberlain like think about that for a second I mean, that's that's classic tibet, Oh, right, but playing more minutes than Will Chamberlain and this team is now Representing when Jalen Brunson comes out in the second half and like doubles down on, we're maximum underdogs,
Starting point is 00:04:08 we come back from all odds, we can overcome anything with our heart, our Josh heart and our heart and Stein, we're gonna, with our heart on, you're gonna, on our sleeves. Oh. Oh. Got it.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Last night, I hope that I'm wrong about this, but last night felt like the apex of the next season because all of these injuries are going to be really tough to play with for the rest of the series and if they somehow move on playing in boston with players that are going to have to contribute minutes i haven't played all season might be kind of tough but last night was the apex because they won at msg again against the Pacers a tough
Starting point is 00:04:45 game and Josh Hart who is your favorite Knicks fans favorite Nick had words to say to Reggie Miller. I want to address basically everything that's happening there because I don't think New York understands that that's not the flex they think it is to remember how he tore your heart out with eight points and nine seconds 30 years ago. I don't want to hear about Reggie Miller. I mean, he has somehow inserted himself into this series. I am tired of Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller was nine and 33 for his career on the road against the Knicks. Reggie Miller. It's inserting himself and I don't want the Knicks to focus on him anymore. It's over. It was
Starting point is 00:05:46 30 years ago. He's overrated. He had nine seconds again, nine and thirty-three. Here's the thing though. The only thing you remember about Knicks Pacers are pace of victories. Yeah. Nobody remembers about the Knicks doing anything good. He could
Starting point is 00:06:01 be nine and a thousand. Nobody remembers about the Knicks winning any of those games. It was Reggie Miller, all those points in a few seconds, and Patrick Ewing missing a layup, Pat Riley quits, and comes to Miami Heat. Let's get out of here, New York, who cares? I mean, all I remember about the 90s is Michael Jordan. So this is like a real argument for second place
Starting point is 00:06:19 here in the East. Reggie Miller was inserted by TNT onto this broadcast. This is usually just a two man crew. He didn't just show up and say, I'm working tonight. And they were like, we're putting him on this broadcast even though it's at MSG. Oh, enough with TNT. And Knicks fans are going to be furious about it.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So Josh Hart was reminding him, hey, by the way, buddy, you're still not welcome here. They followed him down the tunnel like if he was playing in the game. You know how they do the inserts of, here's Steph Curry walking into the garden. It was like, Reggie playing in the game. You know how they do like the inserts of like, here's Steph Curry walking into the garden. It was like Reggie Miller about to broadcast. It was like, eh.
Starting point is 00:06:47 What I'm telling you about New York advancing to this space that makes the sport better that they haven't been to in a long time is that you could rummage around and you have to rummage around to get the excellence out of the Knicks history into the past. And what you find to me, if Reggie Miller is one of the great villains
Starting point is 00:07:07 in the history of sports, what a compliment that you can't shut up about his nine seconds from 30 years ago. The dude's almost 60. The dude's almost 60 and a whole arena is chanting about how bad he made them feel 30 years ago. He's not even the best basketball player in his own family. I want to hear about it from Reggie Miller. Thank you. Name another Reggie Miller moment. Go ahead. I dare you. Name one. When he pushed up Michael Jordan, he hit that three pointer. He jumped around center court. It's a good moment.
Starting point is 00:07:37 He's in the hall of one moment. That's what he is. The fight against Michael Jordan. Stu Gotz was going to make that hall of one moment joke no matter how many examples you gave him. The whole of nine seconds. I would love to have, if I were a villain and I did something and the middle of New York was singing my name 30 years later
Starting point is 00:07:57 because of nine seconds of my villainy that I gave them. It was a tough nine seconds. Holy shit, I mean how memorable is that? I just can't think from any greater compliments that a sports villain can get than to make that arena feel for the first time like it felt back when you were playing because you're invested in stakes. It made every Nick fan hate Spike Lee when it happened.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Everyone blamed Spike Lee. You're right. For Anthony Mason throwing the ball away. No, for inciting him, for pissing off Reggie Miller. The moment is, and Spike Lee showed up with his Reggie Miller. Spike Lee showed up. I don't know how he got the contraband into the arena given that James Dolan confiscates everything and suspends people with surveillance. Yeah. Breaking down something that happened 30 years ago. WFAT. I love it. It is, baby. And so,
Starting point is 00:08:50 last night, Carlisle gets ejected and they have sent, I'm not making this. I am. I am not making this number up. They have sent 78 missed calls to the league office from the from the first two games. Okay. That is unbelievable. I mean, Rick Carlisle, how about you spend some time? Stop cutting up tape. Stop looking through the
Starting point is 00:09:10 film to find where the miss fouls were. How about you spend your time coaching your team? Adjustments, anything who gets who gets the report and like, all right, give it to that guy in the back to review these calls. Like whose awful job is that to sift through 78 calls that Rick Carlisle, not like our officials, that Rick Carlisle thinks is questionable. That's a, that's a shit job. There's no way they actually review it, right? They get that paper with all the links and they're like, eh, just don't work on it.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Send them an email back that you're, it's under consideration. Under review. And just throw it in that it's under consideration. Under review. And just throw it in the trash can. We're investigating. They're investigating. That's what you say, just stalling. I do need to stop Stigatz on something, though, because whatever you think the differences are
Starting point is 00:09:57 between Carlisle and Thibodeau, Carlisle, before the last round, hadn't won a playoff series since when? 2011? When was the last time hadn't won a playoff series since when? 2011 when was the last time that he won? Since they won the championship in Dallas. A playoff series But whatever you think the difference is between Carlisle and Tibbs when Stugat says how about you coach your team? This is doing that. Sending trying to manipulate the officiating when the officiating decided game one Stugat Yeah, trying to manipulate officiating that is part of coaching now coaching your team is playing TJ McConnell who's been maybe your best player through the first
Starting point is 00:10:32 two games play him in the second half. I mean he's guarding Brunson better than anyone play him in the second half. I mean listen that's coaching your team. You're talking about TJ McConnell. I'm over there watching Posternak get punched in the face by I mean TJ McConnell who cares? I mean you see how hard he hit talking hockey right? Next did not get a lot of love from me last night panthers
Starting point is 00:10:56 Look at Roy buoyant and hungover has anyone in the history of the show showed up more for work hungover than Roy Is he the league leader in the history of this show Chris up more for work hung over than Roy, is he the league leader in the history of this show? Chris Cody. I don't know. I don't really drink on school night. He certainly hasn't said it as often as you are. If it's not a school night though,
Starting point is 00:11:13 I'm getting after it. Greg Cody? Greg Cody. Greg Cody's got some endurance. He doesn't come in broken from his dozen beers in the garage the night before. You're the amateur who comes in here perpetually broken because you don't know how to moderate your drink.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I just show up, Dan. Yeah, I know. I come here, man. I know you come here, man, and you do so hungover more than anybody because they got drunk on goals last night. Oh, that was good. That's a good segue. Six pack, Dan-o.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And better than that, because Panther fans are gonna like this part, it's not just that you win 6-1, it's that you're actually winning the violence. You won the stick your tongue out at them game. That's right, Montor, I love you baby. Yeah, the thing was though, it was Boston that resorted to thuggery, not Florida. It was Boston, and he lost. Boston started the thuggery, not Florida. It was Boston and he lost.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Boston started the thuggery, Florida finished the thuggery, but you guys were very excited by the tongue-off. Oh, so good. You're going to explain it to Tony, please, because Tony is learning everything. Tony, I need you to pay even just glancing attention to what's happening in this series. No, me and Billy told you, don't worry about it until they get to the Stanley Cup final. Then we're going to get locked in, but right now, it's not us to do.
Starting point is 00:12:29 You're nuts not paying attention. There's so much fun stuff about that game last night. Monty sticking out his tongue at Marchand last night, Posternak eating that fist. Oh my god, how about that Posternak? Did you see him when he turned around to his coach? He goes, oh, could I fight? He asked his coach if he could fight. He asked him, oh, the mean guy, the bully on your team,
Starting point is 00:12:49 am I allowed to fight him? And then, pop! Planted him, fist right in his mouth. Let me tell you, which camera? Is that camera? Listen, Pashinok, you wanna fight someone, you fight me. Really? All right, which is more true here
Starting point is 00:13:03 that Zaslow sounds like Maximum Sports Radio or with the backward cap and the entire look, looks like somebody on spring break in Daytona Beach? That's all right. We're turning back the clock here, baby. He is mad dog before mad dog because we've got mad dog coming on here on WFAT in about 25 minutes.
Starting point is 00:13:22 You've never spoken to him before? No, no, I have. I have several times, but he's my hero. But you're very excited. Yeah, very excited. But you and Stigatz both have some of the cadence copycatting that comes from knowing what it is that Mad Dog was in sports radio back when he was inventing it.
Starting point is 00:13:36 He is a major influence on me. Yep. The funny thing about the tongue off, as you referenced, that is actually a troll because Brad Marshon actually licked the player. Yeah, he licked a guy. That's right, last year, right? No, it wasn't last year, it was a couple years ago. It was Ryan Collahan of the Rangers when he did that.
Starting point is 00:13:52 The guy who was on the call last night? Yeah, it was Ryan Collahan, yeah. This is a rare thing that we saw last night because this is not just a regular fight. This is the best player on each team, which you rarely see fight. I mean, Kachuk is like a, he's a... No, he's an agitator, but he's not really a fighter.
Starting point is 00:14:06 But he never fights, and that one was so cool to see because they literally, they talked about it before, they're looking at each other on the bench, and it's like, you wanna go? Please coach, can you let me fight Kachuk? Let me fight, please, please, please, please. Oh my God. Have you ever seen a player ask their coach
Starting point is 00:14:17 for permission to fight? Here's permission to get knocked out. That's right. So good. I think it was the 11th and 12th misconduct that period It was a fight. They were handing out 10 minutes like candy. Yeah Man it was just a sight to see man. It was a beautiful game But why are we getting a Roy for celebrating because there are very few things in life that are better than nodding up a series at
Starting point is 00:14:39 One game apiece. Oh, absolutely worthy of a celebration that's a great place. Oh, absolutely. Worthy of a celebration. Yes. Panther is a little better. When you're down one nothing and you're not enough at one game a piece, that is worthy of a celebration. It is. Yep. Have your season alive.
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Starting point is 00:15:59 Now the best player is on our side. Been losing, and losing for much too long. But now we're back with New York pride. Stugats! Jalen! You've got us on our feet. Jalen! We're gonna win the East. Jalen! Withoutall, we're still doing fine This is the Don LeBathardt Show with the Stugats Can you guys help me manage one of these situations because I don't know How to do this in the modern age because I am just so tired After so many years of doing this having all of the conversations
Starting point is 00:16:51 Around the refereeing and the officiating in the deciding of games But when Carlisle gets ejected and they flood the league office with 78 complaints about missed calls Through two games games i don't want to do when at where from nix fans which is what they'll do when the moment they lose a game late against philadelphia those fans will do the same thing and then fans on the other side will do the way i wear stop with your whining and whimpering he's feeding that narrative that the nb a is rate he saying small market to get the same chances,
Starting point is 00:17:25 same opportunities as big markets. That's not what he's doing. He's just setting up the calls for game three, going back to his building. I get it, Zazzle. There's no need to say it though. Rick Carlyle. No, there is need to say it.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Who won a championship. It's human nature. He won a championship in market number five. Do me a favor. How have the Knicks been the last 30 years? How have they been? So are you not going to help me? You're not going to help me further this discussion
Starting point is 00:17:47 because you want to keep doing the rinse repeat of every time there's a call, we come on the next day and argue about the call and we have the same argument for 25 years about this? I don't like it either. But Rick Carlisle made a pretty crazy accusation after the game. I understand why he's doing it, but he's essentially saying he feels like the
Starting point is 00:18:08 series is rigged. But how do we do that how do I and the in the content business the thing that I'm asking you about because Jalen Brunson has become a genuine phenomenon. He's not just a good player, he's a good player even though you're left to wonder how does he do all of that given his size and speed. This is a little confusing. There are not physical gifts out there that would suggest to me that when this guy comes back, StuGuts, in the second half to MVP chant, I'm not joking when I say this in that building. Yeah moments like that you got to go back
Starting point is 00:18:49 60 years for a fan base to fall in love with Willis read in the finals because what you're given New York is the feeling of wait maybe with you we can do this with you because of how tough you are because of how much we love this team because you are a team that nicks believe they will find a way no matter what the issue is because Josh Hart will play 48 minutes and Brunson will limp out of the locker room and it's exactly the kind of team any fan base wants to have the one that gets swamped in the first half Brunson goes to the locker room fear
Starting point is 00:19:21 sweeps through all of New York because he's going to be done for the playoffs what does this mean we've got no chance without him and on a York because he's going to be done for the playoffs. What does this mean? We've got no chance without him and on a no be he's going to go for almost 30 and then he's out at the end of the game and you withstand that even though what's on your bench is Charlie Brown, a guy named Charlie Brown and Alec Burke's. Yeah, I love Alec Burke's though. He can give you 22 on any given night.
Starting point is 00:19:41 He gave you one minute last night. One minute, but he can regular season. Check out one minute last night. I think a given night. He gave you one minute last night. I don't know about that. One minute, but he can. Regular season. Check out the numbers. One minute last night. I think. A single minute he gave you last night. Well, he'll play more minutes going forward here. I think Jess was right.
Starting point is 00:19:51 We saw an apex last night because the Brunson story, his individual story and the Knicks story somehow got better. Like, I didn't think that was possible. And somehow it got better. I have no idea how he injured his foot. I don't care if he injured his foot if he purposely left in the second quarter to get that in the third quarter. Good for Jalen Brunson. That is a heady play,
Starting point is 00:20:13 but Dan, the story got better last night. It's a couple of Knicks fans agreeing with each other. Yeah, I know what they're doing. I know what they're doing. I can see it now. They're talking about this being the apex of the season. Just setting it up for once they beat Indy heading over to Boston, maybe getting one on the road in Boston, all of a sudden that becomes the apex of the season. So they're setting it up for down the road. I'll tell you what I thought was the biggest moment last night right at the end of the second when Forsling puts the Panthers up three one. Huge. That was a big moment. I left my seat there cuz he literally scored with what like point three seconds
Starting point is 00:20:46 Yeah, and I admit I left my seat. I had to get hold on Get the video get the Roy Bellamy tweet. I love how Roy tweets from games You're saying right now that it's one point three seconds, but I saw on my timeline last night that Roy Bellamy Tweeted that that happened with.3 seconds left. They added a second. But you didn't. Your tweet had three tenths of a second on it when he was drunk.
Starting point is 00:21:13 The clock said 0.3. You got out there too quick with it. No, it literally said 0.3 and then they added a second. Rather be first than right. Yes. You're absolutely correct. That's incredible. Rather be first than right yeah you wanted
Starting point is 00:21:25 people to say Roy had it first yes Roy Bellamy had what first he reported yes well but something wrong right Roy's tweets are one of the greatest things in the history of the written word and sports because he just tells you matter-of-factly in Roy's total character, what just happened? Is he hockey magic Johnson? Wait a minute, that's insulting. A thousand percent. That is insulting. He's not as enthusiastic.
Starting point is 00:21:50 But I think Tony, since Tony hasn't been paying attention at all, I mean, what I do before I come into work, I've been keeping an eye on him. Is I read Roy's tweets because they're very informative and you will know exactly what happened in the game. All you need to do, you don't have to watch the game, just read Roy's tweets and you will know, listen to the the game. All you need to do, you don't have to watch the game, just read Roy's tweets and you will know exactly. Listen to the hockey show also with Roy and David.
Starting point is 00:22:09 But that's on Fridays though. This game was yesterday. That's true, but it will keep you informed week to week. And then you don't have to watch the games. You can just pay attention to whatever Roy says. Roy's doing a good job. He's doing God's work. With 0.3 seconds left, Gustav Forsling with a clapper
Starting point is 00:22:23 to make it 3-1 Florida. It says right there, 0.3 seconds. That might as well be in Mandarin for me. I don't know who is Gustav Forsling. One guy, two guys. One guy. Gustav passed to Forsling with a clapper to make it 3-1. Remember Harkinian, Gustav?
Starting point is 00:22:36 It's like the Barkov line. Do you want to know the definition? You want Roy's working definition with a clapper? A clapper, yeah. I have no idea what it is. It's a slap shot. Roy then later. I like a clapper too.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Roy then then later corrected. Make that 1.3. They put a second back on the clock. Look at that. He changed it from a clapper to a bomb. Yeah, you know, multiple ways to describe a slap shot. And I went with a alternate way there Stugots when a fan base falls in love with a team
Starting point is 00:23:10 there are multiple ways in basketball to Fall in love the best when you have the guy who's scoring more than anyone else in the playoffs Yeah, just what Brunson went into that game doing but but also, God almighty, do fans love this part of it? When you don't know where you're going to get it from on a certain night and then that guy does what Adonobi does in the first half where you're like, wait a minute, that's not the offensive player that he is, but they need it and you're getting it in different spots. Josh Hart in this postseason, I don't recognize this player. He is not a 45% shooter from three,
Starting point is 00:23:48 and he's not somebody who routinely scores 19 points a game. But if you look at his game logs, there are a lot of 17 rebound games in there. Josh Hart, for a 210 pound guy, is exactly the kind of guy when Jessica says he's your favorite Knicks fans favorite Nick. He plays exactly him and Hartenstein play exactly the way you fall in love with the great guy. He rebounds at a clip where he looks like he's 6'10". Yeah. And then you realize he's 6'4". He's
Starting point is 00:24:16 just sky over Biggs over everybody to get rebounds. You can lock him in for double digit rebounds every single night from that position is crazy. He had 15 last night. He's been great and Dan's right. Like that's the beauty of this team. That's why we fallen in love with this team. You're gonna get what you're gonna get from Jalen Brunson every single night. You have no idea who your number two is gonna be
Starting point is 00:24:35 on any given night. They're trying so hard. Yeah. The Knicks. Yeah, you only have five choices. To be the Miami Heat. Right. They're trying so hard.
Starting point is 00:24:43 What are you talking about? The Heat are out. We did this last year. We did the same thing. Everything you're saying right now. Replace it with Heat players names. They're trying so- they saw what the Heat did. I was like, man, I wish that was us. They're trying so hard to be the Miami Heat. That's what they're doing. He's right. He's not wrong. Gabe Vincent and Max Jones were crazy last year. So he is wrong. Oh, Jaylen Brunson. He's the best closer. We didn't know he was this good. Just replace everything you just said about Jaylen Brunson. He's the best closer. He we didn't know he was this good. Just replace everything you just said about Jaylen Brunson with Jimmy
Starting point is 00:25:08 Butler. Oh, I didn't know he's 45% from three. Okay, replace the name with Jimmy Butler. It's the same. Every game is close. The Heat pulled out. They had tons of threes. They play good defense. They play hard. Nobody thought they were this good. They wish they were the Miami Heat. We're going for the Heat. That's what you're saying. Yeah, that's right. Really. Well, a championship saying. Yeah, that's right. Really. Well, a championship organization, yeah, makes sense.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Yeah. Could do a lot worse. Right. Yeah, like being the Knicks last 600 years. Hard to do better, yeah, you're right. I'm really surprised that Zaslow doesn't have that old Knicks hatred in his gut. He hates Boston more, Dan.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Understood, but Boston didn't bring the physical fights Boston didn't bring the opposing coaches hanging on to Alonzo morning's ankle at the center of the court yesterday was 25 years since Alan Houston I think it was yesterday yeah rough day that that shot that he's talking about is Pat Riley sobbing at his desk after that game realizing He's got to blow up his whole team like in in the locker room that shot and and it's faded God, it's good to have him back. It is I've missed them
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Starting point is 00:29:02 Kevin Stenlon did. And then about three weeks ago, it hit me. Stugats! He gives him one of these and he gives them one of those. This is the Don LeVar Tar Show with the Stugats! Tony, not that this is usually the subject matter that we have here on WFAT, but what is your problem with the Catholic clergy? Oh Dan, I thought you'd never ask me. So this goes back, the beef between me and the Catholic clergy goes back to Easter, the day before Easter, right?
Starting point is 00:29:37 So I'm at a Catholic service because my wife's cousin is getting married in the church, but they were doing it kind of different, whatever. So we're at this huge Easter mass. And Dan, I don't know if you've ever been to an Easter mass before. They were getting all of the sacraments in at one time. So we had kids doing first communions. We have kids getting baptized that are like two years old.
Starting point is 00:29:58 We have people getting- It's a show. It's a big show. It's like a four hour mass. Which one's the big one? Christmas or Easter? Easter, from what I saw, Easter, because I was there for four hours. I thought they did it all the night before,
Starting point is 00:30:10 like the Easter Vigil mass. Yeah, that's what I was at. So it was like Saturday night. Saturday night, exactly. Don't go to that. What rookie mistake? I was promised, hey, hour in and out, we're gonna see them tie the knot,
Starting point is 00:30:22 everything's great, I'll see you guys later, we're gonna go to the ale house, like whatever. Right. So as, as I'm sitting there, our one goes through, they sing like 40 songs, our three, like I'm at a place where I'm like, all right, we got to get out of here. But how many baptisms you're saying it's all about confirmations. It's everything. It's all it's literally every converted Catholics also get I believe. So there's like, it's a special moment for a lot of people. But it's a clearance sale of Catholicism. Like it's just everything. It's everybody in one.
Starting point is 00:30:52 You're getting communions, you're getting little breads, you're getting things. Babies are getting dunked in the thing. Old people are getting dunked in the thing. It was crazy, right? So they get to a point, Jess, maybe you can help me on what things are called. If I remember, I will try to help. I was just thinking about when you mentioned babies getting dunked in the baptismal font. I thought about during COVID when they were like, Hey,
Starting point is 00:31:10 this is like, we're going to get germs. Instead, we're going to spray these babies with like spray guns full of like baptism, water, holy water. Oh man. Those were crazy times. So Dan, let me set the scene. There's 400 people in this church, right? It's kind of a muggy if you want me to be honest, a little hot in there. They're singing songs, lights are going on, people standing up and down, like,
Starting point is 00:31:29 I'm not used to it, right? Whatever, I'm there just enjoying the ride, just making sure that we watch, which ends up being the very last thing by the way. But were you trying to do a move of go to the Saturday mass so that you get your Sunday for free, you get your- No, I still had to go Sunday. Oh, you had to go- I still had to. You get your- No, I still had to go Sunday.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Oh, you had to go both? I still had to go Sunday. Yeah, I still had to go Sunday. This was more for, hey, they're getting their marriage blessed. We have to go watch it. So the entire family's there. And at a certain point, they do the spritzing of the holy water for people, right?
Starting point is 00:31:57 So people come up, they get the holy water. All of a sudden- You mean like they like sprinkle it on you. It's not like they mix Aperol into it. Just wanna make that clear. It's not spritzing. it's with the chains and the so so all the sudden and Papa get or whoever was the the cardinal I don't know the the names he he's probably the bishop of the bishop So he gets like this like imagine like a mop but like a little mop, right?
Starting point is 00:32:21 It has like these like strings of yarn or whatever So he's going around people and just kind of like, like Petey Pablo putting, you know, his shirt around his head, like a helicopter. So he's kind of doing it to people, whatever. So yeah, right. So people are getting blessed with the holy water picture. The, the church is almost like at a slant. So he's going upstairs and he's kind of like stadium seating, stadium seating. He's kind of like waving around like everybody's like, yeah. And seating, he's kind of like waving around, like everybody's like, yeah!
Starting point is 00:32:46 And then you do the sign of the cross when the water hits you. So, this guy, I'm sitting at the edge, top, cause we got there late, so I'm sitting at the edge, top of the stadium seating. So he turns a corner, he looks at me, I'm standing there, we're all kind of standing, I'm there like, yeah, come on, let's make it happen.
Starting point is 00:33:01 This guy cocks back, guys, I swear to you. He cocks back with the thing and goes, really? When he hits me, guys, my glasses, it was like water pouring down my glasses. I had a green shirt on. The entire shirt. You needed it. The entire shirt is soaked.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He saw you standing up there with your fists on your hips. He's like, that guy's got demons inside. I can see it. Dude, he hit me with a gallon of water. Like my glass, I needed like windshield wipers for my glasses. They were pouring. My entire family laughing.
Starting point is 00:33:32 The water is like a little like kind of weird, right? Like it has like a scent. A little bit like incense. I took a shower in it. Yeah, so his thought process was probably like, this is someone who only comes to mass once every 10 years, so I'm gonna give him enough holy water for the rest of his life,
Starting point is 00:33:49 because he may never come back after this. Dan, he hit me with such a stripe of water that I was sitting underneath an air conditioning vent, again, muggy, but hot air hitting me, and it was just, my glasses started fogging up. Now you're damp and swampy. And I'm just sitting there. They do it again.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Another guy comes by about to do it, and I had to like. Ha ha ha ha. I'm like, I'm good. I'm good. So I don't know if I'll ever go back. You're extra unholy, though. It's like a brisket mop on a smoker. Literally, that's exactly what it was, with just holy water.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It just absolutely smoked me. So I don't know if I'll ever go back. I have beef with the Catholic clergy. They're going to have to make it up to me somehow. I don't know how, but we'll figure I have beef with the Catholic clergy. They're gonna have to make it up to me somehow I don't know how but we'll figure it out He hit him harder with that water didn't can Chuck hit him hit pasta with that punch last night It hit me like 90 miles an hour He cocked back with like a crow hop in the little dress like he cocked back
Starting point is 00:34:34 He's wha when I was a child and we had to go to mass once a week and they they only do the holy water thing On holy days I believe are on special occasions because it's not a thing that they do in every Mass. And I remember always feeling like I got cheated if I didn't get a little splash of the holy water, because everyone else would be getting like a little splash, and then you do it, and then I would just, sometimes you'd just be sitting there,
Starting point is 00:34:57 and you'd be like, well, I didn't get any. What happens now? I'll bring you my shirt, you can bring it out, it's still soaked. Well, Tony's got enough so that on average, over a lifetime, he'll be okay. Even if he never happens to him again,
Starting point is 00:35:08 it's the way that Josh Hart has played an average of 48.2 minutes in the last five games, even though they've only had one overtime game. He's playing more than 48 minutes per game. He's been great. Thank you for bringing it back to the Knicks to the Mecca. That's the place where I observed my religion. Let's take some phone calls here at WFAT. Let's go to Vinny on a car phone. Vinny, go ahead. Hey guys, I love WFAT. You guys are the fattest, the fattest. What a night last night. I mean, when Jalen Brunson came out at halftime and I heard them MVP chance, I was
Starting point is 00:35:48 fundamentally altered as a human being. I will never be the same again unless we lose game three. Then we are chokers and deserve to die. I thought that was Ric Flair. That sounds just like Ric Flair. Vinny's right though. I mean, you know, you
Starting point is 00:36:04 want to take more callers? I do. We're taking callers now. WFAT, yeah, big Nick game last night. Let's take one more here. Let's go to Mike in the Bronx. Go ahead, Mike. Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.
Starting point is 00:36:15 This team, man. I mean, come on, no Julius Randall. I was there. No Mitchell Robinson. No whichever by Donovich is the one that we got. No Edna Nobe by the fourth quarter. I mean, no Br Badanovich is the one that we got. No Ananoby by the fourth quarter. I mean, no Brunson in second quarter. I'm at the, they ran out of hot dogs by the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:36:32 No pretzels. I track these concessions. I ate a lot during the game. No pretzels by the end of the game. They didn't run out of seltzer, all right? I mean, they had seltzer, but not like the cherry kind that I like. I mean, this team, nothing to start this team.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Nothing. We had nothing. We had nothing. Nobody had nobody in the stands. I don't even pay somebody in the game. I don't want to call that with nothing. I don't like taking calls. Good call, Mike. We're taking calls. Can I just say, as someone who is here on WFAT for the first time. Yeah. I mean, can you explain to me how embarrassed you think David Posternock is that he had to ask his coach if he could fight
Starting point is 00:37:07 And then he got knocked out and then he had to leave the game How embarrassed do you think he was? Can Chuck call Denton? He's fine. His face. Excuse me. I butchered that Jesus like Tom Dibbido. Let's take a call WFAT Please no more calls, please. Hey guys. Thanks for taking my call I thought I thought we showed Reggie Murdo last night with that chant Please no more calls, please. Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I thought we showed Reggie Miller last night with that chant. I mean, we got his ass. I was there. We heckled a nearly 60-year-old man.
Starting point is 00:37:35 We proved to him, to the world, that 30 years later, we still remember how he took our choking dog nicks with eight points in nine seconds. And people who did not know that or were old enough who weren't born yet. We taught a whole new generation. What losers, what losers we used to be. You have the tabloids, they blame Spike Lee for the weak, for heckling them and making them sodomizers like that.
Starting point is 00:38:03 He, I tell you what, he inflicted a pain that we handed down to the kids. It was, what was it, three decades ago, but we chanted at him in a sing-song way back then, and now I feel better. Even though 30 years ago, that was apparently one of the highlights of his life and one of the definitely worst moments of our
Starting point is 00:38:27 life. I mean it had to be one of the worst things to ever happen to a New York sports team had to be I mean Reggie used to say I remember this he loved being a villain. He enjoyed that the quieting inflicted on the road even more than a roar of a home crowd. So, you know, I'm sure he was deeply insulted by us remembering what he did to us 3 3 decades ago. We got him good. I'm going to hang up. I don't want to take any more calls to God. You say that on a day like today, all you do is open up the phone
Starting point is 00:39:00 line and go lazy sports radio person and I don't believe. I know, well you killed two minutes but it wasn't any good. So? And he heard, that was excellent call. I don't care about quality in New York. I think the last one was my old neighbor. I had forgotten that part, that Reggie Miller says that he always enjoyed a quiet road crowd
Starting point is 00:39:24 more than even the cheers of a home crowd. Chipper Jones used to say the same thing about doing that to Shea Stadium. So, yeah, if that's something that you enjoy, Reggie Miller leaves that arena last night like he's just imbibed from a fountain of youth, no? He had 45 chances to enjoy that feeling.
Starting point is 00:39:45 He did it 12 times. I don't hear about it. I think he feels alive when he leaves that building last night, right? Like they're searching for that rush again after they retire. I feel like he feels alive. I feel like he thinks he's in the series.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yeah. He's in it now. I will tell you guys that all of these athletes who leave sports and have such a hard time because there's nothing like playing in the center of that pressurized madness. When they get to the sidelines, JJ Raddick will look for whatever it is that he will find later in his career. It'll never feel like that. There is no such thing.
Starting point is 00:40:19 You'll get near it, you'll be on the sidelines, you'll coach and won't have control, but being in the middle of it, there's nothing like it. But if you can be to the side of the stage and feel like you're in the middle of it, you can't give Reggie Miller a greater compliment on what his career was that never won anything. A career that didn't get to the finals but once, right? One time got to the finals. Half as much as Jimmy Butler in the last few years. Reggie Miller. And to have that all resurrected for you, because at one time, you know, maybe the last time the Knicks mattered like this, honestly.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Maybe the last time. It's probably been this long since the Knicks felt this kind of good. Maybe Lynn, maybe. Nah, 2000 was the last time they mattered. And they lost the Pacers that year, 2000. Okay, but mattered like this. When they're coming off of the Pat Riley, interrupting the OJ Simpson finals, John Stark's going two for 18,
Starting point is 00:41:16 and then Riley goes to Miami, and all of the balance of the conference changes. This is a different time. When you can combine all of these elements, Stu Gatz, that the team is an underdog, it's cool and lovable, and you get the nostalgia of, I'm going to go grab some of the stories so that I can remember what it was like to play the Davis brothers. Forgot about those guys, Antonio and Dale. A different time, could not play today. Neither one of them don't have range in their offensive game.
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