The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Golden Globes & The AJ Burnett Story (feat. David Samson)

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

David Samson joins us for The Big Suey today to recap this past weekend's Golden Globes and Jeremy Strong’s ridiculous outfit. We also re-visit our discussion from Monday about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers earning Mike Evans $3 million by throwing him a meaningless pass on the last play of the game to see if Samson’s take has changed after public backlash. Plus, with the news that the Raiders have fired Antonio Pierce and it becoming increasingly clear that Tom Brady is running the show in Vegas, David has a strong take on Brady’s broadcasting future. He also weighs in on the legal dispute surrounding ownership of the San Diego Padres and reveals how he gave Josh Johnson his MLB debut solely to save $100K. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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A podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcasts. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it.

And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. Would you guys be kind enough to clarify a couple of things for me that I don't know whether we've gotten resolution on? One, the 12 days of Gregmas that we did over the holidays, why were our listeners so mad about that? What happened? Where did we fail them?

And why was it Jeremy's fault? Well, it's always my fault, so I'll take blame on that one. We took episodes that were already in our megaphone feed and rescheduled them purposefully with strategy for everyone to be able to have their special 10 days of Gregmas, Chris and I did some intros, but with Spotify and Apple podcasts, there are settings within your podcast app

that if you've either already listened to or already downloaded episode, it won't repopulate. And so understandably, some folks didn't see it, they were upset. I tried my best on Twitter to give everyone the dates of those shows. Okay, so unprofessional and unreliable by our organization. Totally professional and reliable

and well scheduled and well thought out. If anything it sounds like it's the fans fault honestly. No one else is fault. It's everyone else fault. It's everyone else fault. Stop listening and then when Jeremy tweets, just watch all his tweets. I think the fans were also mad with us just being off.

I mean during a busy time in sports. Well I will tell you, we'll bring in David Sampson now and I've got a number of different things in sports to speak to him about but he's just basically trying to improve our corporate climate and i'm what i worried about that because he's the guy who says they might have and you're not getting three million dollars in incentives i want to be a company with the soul david samson does not have one of those however up up up up davidson, I would argue, is probably right if he thinks there is nobody at our company

working harder right now than David Sampson. I don't know if he thinks that, but do you think that? I would not pretend to try to guess the way that people work hard to do the number of hours they do with you, Dan. I can only tell you that your sleep habits with my sleep habits, with Skipper's sleep habits, plus all the other issues that are pervasive

in the company of your creation lead to this. Lead to this. Lead to me sitting here since 9.40 waiting for you because that's when I was told to be here and now it's 21 minutes later. And I don't have that kind of time to waste. Billy was cooking on the heat. He had a- Doesn't matter.

Me? It does matter. He's wearing a dinosaur costume and he was cooking on the heat. David, that's where you're wrong. Billy's words matter. They matter to this audience. They matter to this radio show.

How did this become a Billy thing? I don't know. I'm happy for Billy's words to matter as long as I'm on at 940. This is not a Billy thing. Let's just be very clear. I'm dressed as a dinosaur today to make Dan happy. I don't control who's talking when.

You are making me happy. I believe, and that was very diplomatically stated by you, but David Sampson is working very hard on nothing personal on the sporting class He's doing a number of different things to Be valuable during a very valuable content time So I asked you David in the proliferation of the business of podcasting What are you fascinated by as you see nothing personal grow and an assortment of economies emerge where Billy is in the back saying,

enough with all of these companies making content with their independent brands, enough content. I don't need more content. So everybody needs more content. I think what you're finding is there's a great difference between people who have a name and then get money up front, and then all of a sudden there's disappointment when the production does not match the name.

And so you're having a lot of people, there's no barrier to entry to start a podcast, but it turns out that the work ethic required, like what you all have, to do a show every single day for the number of hours you do, there's a huge value to that, as opposed to a famous person started a podcast and doing it maybe once a week or every other week. It turns out that companies don't have the value associated with that, that

they thought they did because sponsors want consistency continuity and daily shows are way more valuable than, uh, you know, weekly shows. What would you say was the most interesting thing from the Golden Globes? We have not talked about anything Golden Globes related. I don't know if you guys think... Jeremy Strong is very self-serious right? Is he in on the joke or is he just self-serious? What are you shaking your head about? I mean absolutely not in on the joke. Everything I've read about him is that this is a guy who he patterned his whole career after Daniel Day Lewis, someone who famously takes

himself very, but he's a method actor. He takes acting very seriously, but he's not dressing as someone who takes himself very serious. What it's worth that silly outfit. He said he wore that specifically because he's always accused of just wearing Brown and drab clothes. So he figured, why not do something kind of silly, which is him trying to remake his image, but still at least trying. He's a great actor. We can agree on this. Yes, he was exceptional and the star of succession, if it wasn't Brian Cox, like one. He was one of two stars on on one of the smartest shows ever made.

Not not only that, but what his performance in The Apprentice, what he was nominated for, that's a movie that for whatever reason, people aren't seeing because they don't want to be seen as supporting Trump by seeing the movie. And it's a crime not to see The Apprentice. Both Sebastian Stan's performance, but Jeremy Strong is the attorney Roy Cohn,

simply fantastic. And the outfit, you know, it's the Golden Globes. He would not wear that if he's nominated for an Oscar, and those nominations are out on the 17th of January. If he's nominated in the supporting actor category, which would be an upset, I guarantee you he will not wear that to the Academy Awards. The other thing that I wanted clarification on,

other than the 12 days of Gregmas, that were clearly Jeremy's fault, I mean, people I don't think are believing that your facial injury was something that happened the way that you said that it happened, falling, running across the street, and it appears like you have had to have work done on your face because I can still see the swelling from a week ago. Like it seems like this was a horrible fall that you had. The swelling is gone. I do have a pretty cool scar now on my upper lip.

It's just his face. Yeah. His face looks more swollen than it did. I know, okay. He's just fat. So does yours, Dan. Holiday, Dan. Thank you, Jeremy, but that's not what we're talking about.

I didn't fall on my face. That's something you do around here. That's a monopoly hat. But to be fair there was as I was Nursing this injury over the break. I did feel like this was karma taking a big dump on me for all the Jay Leno stuff because I was kind of the loudest voice on Jay Leno owes money to the mob and Now I'm like, okay, maybe he just fell down a hill, you know Well people don't happen. What is that? What is the fairest fell down a hill. You know what? It can happen. Well people don't, what is the fairest criticism?

Billy, I don't know what you've heard. Do people believe, people are saying Amin got into a fight, Metal Arts not talking about how Mike Ryan and him got in that fight defensive about basketball, drank too much at the holiday party. Like what's real and what's not real here? Billy, is there some inner office gossip around me? Saw the bald guy around these parts that week,

so who knows? So you're- He touched his elbow. Your face is not swollen? I mean, like last time I sat- We're doubling down on this one. Last time I sat in this seat, I sat like at an angle, because I didn't want anyone to see

what my face looked like. I'm now staring right in the camera, is my face swollen? it is the right side of your face you look like a squirrel see that's how you know he said the right side of my face the injuries on the left side full of shit all these cameras it could be the opposite right it's a mirror is the man left wait do He meant left. It's opposite day too, yeah. Wait, do you have a chipped tooth also? Samson, shut up for a second. Dan, he's been waiting since 940.

Let's show him some respect. Nothing personal except waiting. It's opposite day is what you gave me from behind that dinosaur costume. Who said that? I'm just here to help. is what you gave me from behind that dinosaur costume. That's. Who said that? I'm just here to help. I keep making eye contact with the dinosaur eyes.

I wanted a microphone that I could hold up here to the mouth of the dinosaur for the visual joke, but I don't reach. There's no joy in the joke for me when I can't see your face and see how happy you are Because it's opposite day is the worst you can do Billy like it's opposite day. He's got an ear-to-ear smile Can't even see your smile. I was trying to help Samson believe it or not because he got the wrong trying to help Samson What do you make of what's going on with the Raiders? What are the most interesting business management leadership

stories going on right now in sports to you? Well, the number one thing in the NFL is the desire by all of these owners to come out with statements when they're not making moves or when they are making moves, and the strangeness of the timing. The whole Antonio Pierce thing I take great issue with. Nothing happened from day one postseason to day two postseason where he did a press conference

and then got fired the next day. You don't make a decision like that after the press conference. He was fired before they let him do his postseason press conference and there was no reason what they couldn't get to him. They couldn't find him. They couldn't find him. They couldn't reach him. There were, it just, it's embarrassing. And then they leak out that Tom Brady is going to be

very involved in the new coach and in the search for the new coach. Guess what? Tom Brady's running that team right now. And the NFL knows it and Fox knows it and something's got to give. So enjoy Tom in the booth, cause you're not gonna see him there next year.

Whoa, what? Whoa, what? Where's he gonna be? What? He will be in the Raiders front office. He will not return as an analyst for Fox. You cannot be this involved in the operation of a team and be the number one analyst.

It is an absolute insult to analysts what he's doing and it's an insult to team presidents what he's doing. You end up doing both of them in a mediocre way and I assume and I know that he'll, I know. I promise you. Wait a minute, which is it? Wait, wait, wait, get it right. Do you promise or do you know?

Come on, David, get the dismount right, please. Do you know it? Do you assume it? Do you promise it? If you assume it? Do you promise it? If you're gonna give us the soundbite of saying something no one else is saying, can you do it correctly, please? Nail the dismount.

4-8-6-9. Tom Brady will not be with Fox next season. He will be full-time in the Raiders' front office running that team, period. Ooh, a period. Oh my God. Period. That's a punctuation. He hit us with a spoken punctuation, ladies and gentlemen. that team period. Oh, period. Oh my God. Period. He hit us with a spoken punctuation. Ladies and gentlemen, that is broadcasting expertise.

But it's still a guess, right? It's still a guess, but it's an assumption, but he's promising you it means nothing. It's like he said game over the other day and it means nothing. They're just words. Did he say period? I mean, let me stick up for him for what he said the other day. They're just words. Did he say period? I mean. Let me stick up for him. For what he said the other day,

all he said was, if it wasn't approved, then people are losing their jobs. Agreed. Not like, wait a minute. So for those who don't know, Mike Evans got a $3 million bonus. Jesus, I mean, not everyone listens to this show the way you do.

Sorry. Mike Evans gets a $3 million bonus on the field, and what David Sampson said about that was that if management didn't know and approve all of that and it cost them three million dollars game over there would be penalties it's just a but just a fart of wind came in one of the bucks to release them before the game but that so this is the part though right this is the part to me that was more interesting

about what he said and what he didn't say. I don't think David Sampson would have approved that moment if he were running the Bucs. He would have told them to bench Mike Evans. And so that is a joy, would have cut him before the game. That is a joylessness that I was stunned by. David, let me stick up for you here and say,

the Bucs needed to win that game in order to make the playoffs, correct? Yes. Yes. So there's no way you would have said, bench Mike Evans in a Muslim game, right? It's idiocy. You're all talking, it's hurting my ears, your inability to understand the nuance of the comment.

And if you want to make it a bit, if you want to do whatever you want to do, I don't care. Of course he's going to play in the game. They've got to win the comment. And if you wanna make it a bit, if you wanna do whatever you wanna do, I don't care. Of course he's gonna play in the game. They've gotta win the game. You gotta win the game. You're not doing it to give him the extra $3 million. That play at the end was a risky play. That's why I wouldn't have done it.

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This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. What's the value of one playoff game? Like is it worth three million dollars? Are you on the road or are you home? If you're a road team. Home, they're a home team. No, no, no, no, but in this- They're a home team Billy.

Okay, but hold on. In this hypothetical situation, you can decide paying a player a $3 million bonus or having one road playoff game, you're never gonna have any home playoff games. Do you bench him to save the $3 million because you won't make it back? I want the playoff game because there's a chance

to make it through the playoffs and there's a huge benefit the following year in it when you increase your season ticket prices, increase your corporate prices. So I want the playoffs way more than any personal records for players, you want playoffs. All that matters is playoffs. And then all that matters above that is rings.

The rest is just noise and individual accomplishment that adds up to nothing. I will tell everybody as I always do when David Sampson is on with us that on nothing personal he covers an assortment of subject matter that I know our audience and in general sports audiences would eat up because they have a business acumen that's unusual and if I explain to my audience or our audience well why it is they should care about what's happening with the Padres right now.

I am promising you that David can produce for you a gossip that people usually like around money and power and transactions, but I don't think the American sports media covers very well this stuff. So David, please tell me why we're covering what's happening behind the scenes with the Padres

so poorly when that seems like something that the general audience would want to know about family dynamics because as soon as we tell you that Woody Johnson's team is being run by his teenage sons, all of a sudden is ever everyone's interested in how rich people play with their toys. Yeah, there's there's some family stuff that goes on that we do talk about, like the whole Broncos situation when Pat Bowlin died, there was tremendous fighting with the family and it forced a sale of the team to the current owner, the Walmart guy. I'd like to talk about the Padres because Peter Seidler, the great man and a great friend who I've known for a long time, died young, 63, three young children.

He was trying to create the Dodgers in San Diego. He did it in a way that was fiscally irresponsible, but full of love, and the fans appreciated all the signing of the players. But once he died, there has been now a reduction in payroll, a return to responsibility, and now there is a fight. And this lawsuit that was brought by Peter Seidler's widow against Peter Seidler's brother is a cautionary tale

about what happens when someone dies young. The wife is claiming there's a piece of paper that shows that the control person, meaning the person who should own the team once Peter's dead, is her. What the brothers are saying is, no, no, Peter was very clear, the person who should be running the team is me, meaning one of the older brothers. Here's what's not being discussed. Every team has to submit a succession plan to Major League Baseball, And it's true in all the sports.

There is a plan in place for what happens when a controlling owner croaks, whether it's sudden or whether it's at the age of 120. And that succession plan is done in concert with a legal succession plan, like a will or a trust. And so this lawsuit has a very easy solution. And the succession plan for the Padres included his brother being voted shortly as the new control person.

This is a frivolous lawsuit, and it's a sad lawsuit because she is painting the brothers as racist. She's trying to appeal to the fans saying, why would you hurt a wife and a widow and three little kids? But it ignores the truth about how succession plans work. David, last week, you told, or on Monday, you told us that you were gonna come with a list of the players that you found ways to get out of.

Thank you. Giving them bonuses for it. Do you have your top 12? Top 12. So I made a decision on that, Billy. Thank you for asking. There's really one that I wanna talk about only and I'm just gonna mention it and tell you why.

We had a player named AJ Burnett and when we had AJ Burnett, he was young, he was brash. He got a tattoo the day before a start and it impacted his start. He was that kind of immature. He then of course matured and now he's an amazing father, an amazing guy. But he had a contract that had a level

where if we started him one extra game, he would have gotten a payment. So we gave a start to a pitcher that no one knew, but was a high draft pick of ours. And you may know him because he was the starter when Marlins Park opened in 2012, Josh Johnson. Josh Johnson received as a young player, a start when AJ Burnett could have gotten that

and could have gotten paid. And that was pretty much the end of our relationship with AJ because he knew what had happened and we'd let him go. As you all may recall, we did not sign him. We did not trade him. We let his contract expire and moved along from him. But that was an example where we were pretty honest

with the pitcher explaining that we were not gonna give him the ball again. And he and his agent were less than happy. Do you know what the bonus was? Do you remember? Of course he does. Yeah, it was around, call it 100K. I mean, after taxes, whatever, she's 70K.

This is the guy who's in charge of cleaning up the company? You just took that money from him. This was a pitcher who threw a baseball at a truck and at a mascot, correct? While in warmups, he was... That was before I got to Miami. That is a famous thing that he went after a truck and a mascot correct while in warm-ups he was uh... that was before that was before i got to miami that is a famous thing that he went after a truck behind the plate people confuse that you see the video here yeah this is purposeful when you're a jay bernett

uh... you do not miss the catcher that encapsulates the picture is a hitting a truck uh... we actually had an argument with players when they would break stuff about how they would pay for it. And we ended up just taking out of their salary because we paid them every two weeks. But when they would do equipment, what we would call an equipment mistake,

which is hitting the TV or breaking a window purposefully, we would charge them. I just wanna tell that, can you guys just look up for me this information, because this player he speaks of, oh what a god, oh what a by god golden age. Go look up the stats on his no hitter. He had nine walks.

Or 11, or 11. Threw the ball really hard, got tattoos, broke trucks, got suspended, pierced nipples, yeah. He had the second most walks in no-hitter history. How many? How many? Nine or 11? I thought it was 11 because all it was was throw it at your neck or strike out and everybody

was up there was afraid because he threw too hard and back then it was about 97. Back then 97, now it's 147. Every single player for the other team except for the pitcher reached base at least once. But how many pitches did he throw? Do you understand how many? 129 pitches. It was seven strikeouts.

It was nine walks. I have confirmed that. Thank you. Nice memories, Stu Gatz. I would say that David Sampson would tell you that that way of pitching, that he was purposely trying to injure AJ Burnett's elbow in that game

by making him throw 129 pitches. He either walked or hit by pitch every position player in the opposing line of the game. Oh, so it was, wait a minute, so was it nine walks and two hit by pitch? Is that what it was? Did he hit, was it? There's your 11.

Steve Martin. David? Yeah, you may not not remember he was not part of the rotation when we won the World Series because he had Tommy John and he was out for the season which is why we had Mark Redman and why Don trail Willis was called up and ended up starting those games. So he was he still got a World Series ring. The players still voted him a share, but he was on the injured list the majority of that season. Did you call him Red Man? Why did you

call him a Red Man? I love because there's Mike Redmond and Mark Red Man. So that is we make the distinction of the talk that way. But I think he would say it's Redman. I love his album with method man perfect. Yeah, Red Man is offensive. No, it's not. He's a rapper. Whoa, Dan. It's his name.

It's a compound name. That's not his name. Redmond is his name. It's not Red Man. It's not Mike Redmond. Oh, we know it's spelled Red Man, David. It's Redmond. No one ever said Red Man.

It's Redmond. It's not Red Man. It's a whirlpool. Ah, he listens to the show. What are you reviewing today for us, Samson? I'm reviewing a documentary called Chasing Amy. I am very hopeful that people in the room have seen the movie Chasing Amy,

which is a Kevin Smith vehicle. It's great. I can't imagine I'm the only one, you and I, Dan, but I mean for sure it's seen Chasing Amy. It's one of Kevin Smith's best and Kevin Smith's best over a three year period would have been as good as anybody. It's probably his smartest movie.

It was a movie that had a very interesting theme which is can you make a lesbian not a lesbian? Can you somehow get her to fall in love with you as a man? And that's what Ben Affleck was trying to do to Joey Lauren Adams, who was Kevin Smith's girlfriend at the time. This whole documentary is about how people are viewing that movie today.

How politically charged it actually was. How it may not have spoken to the LGBTQ community in the language that they wanted to be spoken to, yet for some portion of the community, it spoke to them absolutely directly. And to others, it turns out it was so the language that they wanted to be spoken to, yet for some portion of the community, it spoke to them absolutely directly, and to others, it turns out it was super divisive. And I engage with that movie in a totally different way,

and I always have engaged with it differently. I engage with it as the love story that I've always been searching for, not having anything to do with LGBTQ. And the Jason Lee character as the roommate who there's undercurrents of homosexuality and all sorts of things that happen like that, speaking of working, do you want me to get the call from the boss at Metal Archie?

And so I would tell you- All sorts of things like that is the phrase you tried to use after homosexuality? It's, thank you very much, Dan. Thank you for that. I hope you clip that I'm trying to not step in it as someone who would be looked at as a middle aged white straight. Go take the call. It's very, I'm not taking it. I already hung up. Obviously, somebody's not watching the show live. Don't do that. What

happened is who's calling you? Who's trying, who's calling? Who is calling you right now? You said the boss is calling. The boss is calling you? You're talking to him. I do believe that was me. No, I thought you were talking to him now.

Who are you talking to? Who's calling you? I'm not calling you. I do apologize, David. What do you mean the boss? We like that fun here. Ha ha ha. Dan, you butt dialed me. No.

Oh boy. No. There's a fine pathway for that now. No. What do you mean saying to my face the boss is calling you? Eh. I am doing my best to juggle the amazing intricacies

that exist in the world that you've created. And when I say the boss called, whoever I speak to at any particular moment, I view as the boss. Is it Sedano's mother? That's me. That is well played. It was Will Manso.

Well played by David. Oh, it was me, apology. See you later, Samson. See ya. The Day on the Batard Show with Stu Gotts is sponsored by BetterHelp. Every January feels like a fresh start. 365 blank pages just waiting for your story to be written. In 2025, maybe you're ready for a plot twist, ready to revise the parts of your story holding you back. Life isn't about New Year's resolutions that disappear by February. It's about picking up the pen and becoming the author of your life.

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