The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Graz? Who The Hell Is He?

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

Jess and Stu are laughing about athletes in sports that connote the monarchy. Our Friendly Neighborhood Race Lady, Jemele Hill, joins the show to continue the discussion on RFK and Aaron Rodgers, plus other celebrities considering runs for President, including The Rock and Steph Curry. Jemele has a story about her husband experiencing racism and what it's like to be married to her. Next, Dan wants to discuss Greg Cote's continued meteoric rise to superstardom and the show continues the conversation about concerns with AI. Plus, Billy fights with his car and Dan can't say the names of former college head coaches. Finally, the show dives into numerous NFL topics while Stugotz dismisses Dan Graziano. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Plus, eligible Ford owners get a $1,000 bonus. For details, visit your local Ford store or Ford.ca. Welcome to the big sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBetard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Stugots, why are you and Jessica laughing?

What, can that come on air? Are you just doing a, you're just doing show for yourselves there? That was one of the worst jokes Stugots has ever made. We were thinking of athletes who connote the monarchy because offline we were talking about this whole Kate Middleton thing, which we'll get to later.

And I was like, oh, Patrick Queen, Prince Fielder, and Stugats said, Harry Carey. Harry Carey. Harry Carey. Did you want, I gave you Tayshon Prince as well. I mean, Duke Johnson, by the way. Not bad. That is a bad, you need to work on your Harry

Kerry. Come on. A little better. It's rusty. No, it's rusty. Keep practicing. Keep practicing. And maybe by the end of the segment, you will have it so that we can do this correctly. Jamel Hill is with us. We are we are forming the cabinet, trying to form the cabinet,

whether it's Jesse Ventura or Aaron Rodgers for a new presidential run, better than the options that we're given, Jamel. And I want to laugh at this, but I also don't want to be too flippant about, I mean, is it all jokes? Or is there stuff here that I should fear? Just generally fear.

Well, here's the thing. The reason why you feel uncomfortable laughing is because you're looking at what our political world looks like right now. And it would be amusing if it weren't also terrifying and if it weren't also meaning that we were picking, you know, arguably the most important leader in the world when you look at all the things that have happened. I mean, we have a presidential candidate who's running who has, it was facing 91 indictments who owes so much money because of,

who owes so much money because of, you know, liable rape allegations because of what he owes the state of New York. I mean, like, there's just, there's so much there that you now look at the possibility of Aaron Rodgers being a serious vice presidential candidate and say to yourself, well, it's not the weirdest thing that we've seen because look at our our current politics so there are some jokes to be made but there's also a part I think running through everybody's mind is saying like okay this is jacked up but I could actually see it happening maybe not in the winning but like this seriously becoming a campaign uh Jamel I would say that one of the great jokes of the cosmos is the idea that your last eight years dedicated to journalism like blew off sideways because you said the tamest of things

that now has been like mushroom. I mean that is mushroom clouded into like I just said this one little thing of like this is white supremacy here and now it's mushroomed into 91 felonies. And like, it's kind of amazing how tame your controversy is now, given that it was just a few years ago, and it seemed like a big deal at the time. If anything, you could say, I took it easy. I mean, really.

I mean, really. I mean, calling him a white supremacist is the least of the troubling things that we have come to later discover about Donald Trump. But, you know, unfortunately, the unfortunate part of his presidency, and there are many unfortunate parts, but one of them is that now I think people,

a lot of people feel like they can do the job that they deserve to be in political office because he won. And because now he's considered a, you know, he's obviously the GOP front-runner. If you're Air Rogers, regardless of the numerous idiotic things that you said, why would you think you don't have a chance at this? Our political cycle literally proves you have a great shot at perhaps becoming the vice president simply because of your name, simply because he has a legion of people who do not mind his bullshit. So here you go. Congratulations, Air Rogers.

Jamel, explaining her controversy now is like me trying to explain why 2007 NBA All-Star game was so crazy because people were smoking weed out in public So you say it and people like and no you don't get it back then that was crazy now It's like yeah, so you just just another day I just had the idea in general I mean of Sports being in Vegas right like yeah, major legitimate sports happening, you know, not boxing, not what we normally see. They're like, there was an NBA All-Star game there and people thought that was like quite

controversial. It's like, really, they have like everything now. Like, I don't even understand this. So yeah, some things practically, I guess in the reverse, don't age well. Let's play for Jamel here. Speaking of everyone can run for president now because I saw that the rock was making fun of Ronaldo because Ronaldo buys his followers and the rock has like people think the rock could be president because he's popular enough and so here's

Steph Curry not ruling it out. Listen to this. Do you have an interest in politics? I have an interest in leveraging every part of my influence for good in the way that I can so if that's the way to do it then I'm not saying the presidency but if politics is a way that you can create meaningful change or if there's another way outside of politics you know that we can do. You're not ruling it out. No. 2028, you never rule.

Not that soon. Not that soon, okay. Okay, he's not gonna do that. He'd win. All right, not ruling it out. He's just giving a televised answer. Like I would have said definitely not. No, I couldn't.

Yeah, like the option is, it's me to say no, man. You could be like, I would expect some surge, but he's sort of interdating. I can't wait to play back Dan saying, he's not gonna do that when Steph Curry is running for president. President Curry, oh my God.

He literally hit her with a, you never know. What do you mean? You guys didn't hear that the same way where Steph Curry seems, he is publicly polite and so he wants to do good, but not president. You think Steph Curry is gonna be like a cabinet member? Drey Mongreene, Secretary of Defense. Yeah.

Easy call. Easy call. No one will mess with us. Imagine if Steph was just like, what a stupid question. Let's move on. He's never gonna say that. Steph can't say that. See, that would be him denying it. If he's just like, that's absurd. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard

But he's just like no 20 20 28 too early Jamel what do you make of the normalization of scandal the the idea that everyone now thinks they can be present? And all you have to do is have your audience Dan this is just a continuation of what we're already seeing in other sectors of our society, right? A lot of people now think they could be journalists just because of social media. And they've been able to step into that lane. You know, you see probably on these red carpets now, we just had the Oscars, you probably

see more, way more influencers than you do, you you do people who are legitimate entertainment reporters. I mean, social media and the ability to captivate and have and maintain an audience has become the premium factor to how we're deciding things. Again, using Hollywood as an example, there are people, and actors talk about these things both privately and some are brave enough to say it publicly, is that there are studios that would rather put an influencer

in certain roles in movies and TV shows because they know that they can interact with an audience. They don't care if they're trained, they don't care if they have the chops to actually act for longer than 30 second clips. That person brings an audience to the table and therefore that legitimizes them. And so yes, we are in a time where the idea of picking a quarterback, a quarterback by the way, who at some point lecture to everybody about how that he didn't want any distractions and how the jets and everything should be all about business and all about football. And now we see behind closed doors, he's been having talks about, you know, one of the most important positions that you can hold in this country.

But I just think we're at a point in society where if you can capture and have an audience, you can practically be considered for anything. Jamal, onto more important things. On your Instagram account, you and your husband told a story about going to a restaurant. Your husband came out and the valet said,

wow, what do you do for a living? Cause your husband was dressed real nice in a nice car, pulled up, whatever. And you guys had a disagreement on whether this was a compliment or whether this was in fact like, I'm like, oh, what do you do? So did you get to the bottom of it? I know you opened it up to your followers

to answer and leave comments. Did you get to the bottom of it? I know you opened it up to your followers to answer and leave comments. Did you get to the bottom of whether this was, in fact, a compliment or not? Okay, well, I guess before I give the answer in the context, I mean, do I get the neighborhood race lady music? Because we're about to take. Hold on a second.

Hold on a second. Chris Choney, good work. Good work as always. It's time for your friendly neighborhood race lady. You're good. Thank you for producing our producer. You seem to be texting somebody at the time. What was the question?

So here's the situation of what happened. My husband and I, we had a little date night last week. We went to this very wonderful restaurant called the Linden here in Los Angeles and had a great time. We week. We went to this very wonderful restaurant called the Linden here in Los Angeles and had a great time. We're coming out to leave the restaurant and my husband is a little bit ahead of me because I think I might have gone to use the bathroom.

So I came out a little later. And in the car, he explained to me that as soon as he handed the valet, the valet ticket, and his car was parked right outside, he said, is that your car? And my husband said, of course, yes, that's my car. And then he asked him, what did he do to get a car basically like that?

And I was coming out, I guess, right after he asked in this and I just heard my husband say, get you a good woman in your life. And I think that ballet also said any advice as well as I you know what you do to get a car like that any advice and he said it's get your good woman in your life now I threw this out as a debate on social media on instagram on my instagram account because you know when you're black in your in

certain spaces or you have certain things a lot of people look at you, like how did you get in this room? Or how did you get that? Like something isn't adding up. This doesn't fit the picture of how I thought black success would be if you even thought black success was attainable. And so I kind of took offense to him asking,

my husband was like, no, I think he meant it genuinely. And so I put it out there for people to you know debate and give me their thoughts and perspective. The number one question that was asked what was the ethnicity of the person. So I will tell everyone who either is going to my instagram or will go now after this conversation. The person the value asked was Latino.

So I don't know how that impacts how people think about the situation. But I just know that there is, to me, a fine line between genuine legitimate curiosity and then on top of that, between genuine legitimate curiosity and then kind of being a little too intrusive and perhaps a question like this coming up, you know, the wrong way. Because like, this has happened to me so many times where people are like, well, how did

you, how did you do that? Like, how are you in first class or what do you do for a living? And I really hate that. And especially from my husband, who is often confused for a professional athlete. And one time somebody was so it's true. He loves it. They're like, so he's checking

all the boxes is like, you know, black dude, nice car, good physique. They're like, surely he plays for the Ravens. It's like, no, he's in medical devices. What can I tell you?

Sorry, it's not more glamorous than that. But you know, he of course, like I mean, said like, he's like, I got a nice body and I'm glad they confused me. But I'm like, no, babe, you have to see the racism. It is, why are you gonna be a professional athlete? Why can't you own a dry cleaner?

I'm like, why do you have to, you know, why does some ball sport have to be at all? Goodbye, goodbye, race, mini, really, goodbye. Thank you. This is what it's like being married to me. The Dan LeBatard show with Stugatz is sponsored by BetterHelp. A lot of us spend our lives wishing we had more time. The question is, time for what?

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Good call. You're my brother. Stugats. Oh my God. What a weird interaction. Why, guys? Why, why, why, why? Wow.

This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. You got it. Chris, your father came in here yesterday and he was feeling his mortality a bit. He's been skipping and laughing through life. He's an overgrown toddler. He's gotten to 70 years old and he's learned next to nothing other than do drink beer and enjoy himself. And he's learned next to nothing other than do drink beer and enjoy himself. And he's not domesticized. His brother, Uncle Dick, is totally crazy and Greg is only not crazy because Erlene raised three kids, Greg Cody and their two boys.

And Greg Cody comes in here yesterday and he's been feeling himself for a while, right Chris? Does he remain out of? Does he remain totally out of control? Yeah, he doesn't stop talking about, he's talking about albums now and live performances. It's gone to his head. Okay, and Billy, what are you, your supporting? Just exciting news.

Right, an album. An album. A tour. He's like an EP, should it be six or eight? Okay, and Billy what are you? What are you? You're supporting? It's just exciting news Album I mean he's like an EP ladies should it be six or eight? So it's like dad relax Should it be six or eight? What songs tracks? well, I mean, but He there's a like parody songs, right? That's the thing is he wants to like write his own like serious country song Well, you have to like dad you don't get what we're doing here. I don't like you get it. It's gotta be like, if you're gonna write songs,

they gotta be a little funny. He's just like, no, I wanna write a song about my life. They also need to be original. That's Billy's point. Well, because if not, it's gonna cost you. Like, you can't just do other people's music, I would assume, without paying some sort of licensing fee. He hasn't thought about any of these things.

He's just interested in song and freedom and he and licensing fees don't cost him anything and money just rains in from the sky as he sings his song to the heavens. What about this business transaction? You guys not understand it. I actually kind of like this model, right? Just do it and figure it out, right? Yeah. And he's up there, so maybe he won't have to deal

with the ramifications. Okay, but he- Leave it for Chris. Exactly. He comes in yesterday and he's scared about the future and it seemed like it was for the first time, Stugatz, because he's talking about AI and then now he's reading articles

and everyone is now saying, are the worst of the do sayers on both sides. Like it's go on Rogan's podcast and say by 2029 artificial intelligence is going to be much smarter than the human race. Like we're all we can all sides can agree on this. But is that more like a credit to AI or an indictment on us? Because we're definitely dumber, right? Like, we're all-time dumb. Will it matter if we're all underwater? Because you also said yesterday the Inter-Miami Stadium would be underwater in five years.

Right, I am, yes, the ultimate warrior would be my wrestling name. And some of this stuff has been plaguing me for a while. But Greg Cody, this is the first time that some of this stuff has reached him where he's talking about extinction level events because of AI. And so I just want to ask you guys, much like we had the conversation with Jamel Hill. Wasn't that a quaint time at Disney? Jamel Hill called the president a white supremacist and it was a giant journalism explosion. Everybody gasped

and now everybody's like, Oh God, that was a long time ago. Things have gotten a lot worse since then, huh? That's weird. I don't want normalized the fact that I read in today, Stu, God's coming in today. I read the story that GM, Ford, and Honda are being accused of, and it seems like it is so, spying on you and your vehicles, are being accused of, and it seems like it is so,

spying on you and your vehicles, and then your insurance gets raised because they've got information on you and your vehicles. And are we just so okay with how addicted we are to technology already, that we're gonna be surprised that the computer's gonna take over because they have all of our information? Like they can do everything for us. They've been gathering information on us for years.

Are you okay with your car spying on you and relaying that information back to your insurance company so that it raises your insurance rates because they've been spying on your car? I mean, I'm not okay with it, but do I have a choice? I mean, doesn't seem like I have choices anymore. It just seems like people are gonna do what they wanna do and I just have to eat it.

You know? Right, the companies get to decide how to use AI. The companies get to decide how to use data tracking on the internet, tracking in our cars. My friend did have one of those cars where you put the thingy in your car and it monitors your driving. And if you do good, I guess your insurance goes down.

There's insurance companies that offer that. Do you have one of those? I don't, but I know people that do and it's like fair. It's the most annoying thing in the world. Every time she would break too fast, it would like beep at her and that was every time she broke because she wasn't a very good driver. It's like they want you to follow the rules of the road when you have this thing and it's insane. Don't talk on your cell phone.

Put your seatbelt on. Don't speed. Like what is this? How about you worry about you and I worry about you? Don't crash into someone else. I'll do what I did. Well please. Drive your own car. Every five minutes I was like beep. I'm like what is that? She's like oh I did something wrong. I'm like yeah well I'm also car sick so I could tell without the beep but. Wait, Billy. Yeah? Billy talks to his car. Billy, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I'm a drag. I'm a drag. I wanna be clear on if I saw this correctly because it seemed to me like you're alone in your car, you're driving and now you're being agitated by your car because. Oh, it beeps sometimes when I put my backpack on the passenger seat Because my backpack weighs too much and I'm like there's no one there. You're so smart car. You know, it's a backpack idiot I Can call my car an idiot. Okay, I got the follow-up for my kids my car. I can say it about all right Dad if you're listening don't take the defense or offense about me calling my car an idiot

Do you ever buckle up your backpack to keep to shut the car up? Yes? Feels very stupid annoying I do it Geez Louise enough with cars enough with noise But you could live in a quiet society Anyway enough with noise is a great thing the thing that made me laugh The most about what seems like a deep-seated resentment that Billy has toward his car It seems like the car is nagging Billy. Yes Give me more gas change my oil. What do you do for me?

Change my oil. What do you do for me? I'm building up. Get changed my tire. Point A to point B. Point A to point B. I have to do that. I do that hard work. No, but that's the car's job. What other job does it have? I mean.

Pay tolls. Do this, do that. No, wait a minute. The car reminds you to pay toll. I feel like telling my car, hey, car, you're from 2013. You don't even have a backup camera. I could exchange you any minute

and get a new model. A hot new model. Just hanging out with you because you don't even have a backup camera. I could exchange you any minute and get a new a new model a hot new model Just hanging out with you because you don't cost me anything you're paid off. I'm gonna ride you into the ground I don't say those things I'm just saying I'm out now out loud Dan because you're bringing it out in me I didn't want to say this public. I don't want to publicly fight with my car, but here we are I'm just hanging it out in me. I didn't want to say this publicly. I don't want to publicly fight with my car, but here we are. Here we are.

Who resents who more? Billy, his car, or his car resending him? My car does stuff to me all the time that it's like, are you again with this? I feel like we've been through this already. Oh, all of a sudden, my brake lights don't work. Okay, well, you know what? I'll take care of you.

I'm gonna take you out. We're gonna go to the auto store, because I don't know which is our sponsor right now, so I'm not gonna say names. We're gonna go to the auto store, because I don't know which is our sponsor right now, so I'm not gonna say names. I'm gonna go to the auto store, get some new light bulbs, get you some fancy new light bulbs. They're gonna shine like a Christmas tree. You're gonna be a beautiful car. Nope. Light bulbs don't work. Why is that?

I don't know. You have to change the whole light socket thing. Good news, Billy. You got something in the mail. Extended warranty. They're gonna change it. Just take it to the dealer. Okay, I'll take it to the dealer. Well, Billy, are you sure you want to do that? It's $309 to do the mail. Extended warranty, they're gonna change it. Just take it to the dealer. Okay, I'll take it to the dealer. Well, Billy, are you sure you wanna do that? It's $309 to do the test. Well, I have the extended warranty.

They sent it to me in the mail. Okay, you'll be fine. And then what happens when I go to the auto dealer? That wasn't the problem. It's another problem. It's gonna cost you $700 to change those lights. Damn car. Outsmarting me.

Trying to take you out nice. Get you nice, fancy light bulbs. Have a nice nice date have other people looking you say who never enough look at those rear brake lights on that Hyundai Sonata nope how about don't be foggy windows one time in the morning yeah that's another thing what's up with these foggy windows in the morning how come I have to put my air on like the you know you do that thing I know it's kind of like I just I don't like it right it's like 10 then 20 minutes later it's magically clear that's the boy I just working over in a button in the north I would I simply cannot believe because I did read Billy's

body language correctly and we are now unearthed and I was not aware that it was there, that not only does Billy have a great deal of deep-seated resentment toward his car. No, we love each other. His car also has it toward Billy because he dares to say, what does it do for me? And it says, I'm sleeping back and forth every day and all you do is complain about me. Oh please, you have a good car. Let me tell you something.

There's all kinds of cars that don't even leave garages for months on end, just sit in, driveways, their batteries die. I take you to see the world. How many people get to see the water every day car? You do, because you live in Miami. You haven't taken me out of Pendle in years, Billy. You drive over here, you see?

Biscayne Bay, how many people can say that? Car, Hyundai Sonata. Not many. I do that for you. I thought you were going to turn me in. Cost me money. I should have turned you in. I should have turned you in. I saw a new Sonata looking at me. I would have a second chance. Oh please. I could have exchanged you multiple times

over. Going SUV. I get this stuff in the mail. I see the offers. Don't think I don't think about it. Car. Why Billy, why? I could go electric. I could go hybrid. Take it back. But I don't.

Take it back Billy. I don't because I'm committed to this. We're in this together so I thought. It's also pricey. Or so I thought. Car. Is anyone else picturing Adam Driver and Scarlett Johansson?

I'm imagining Billy walking through a dealership and a sonata giving him the eyes. It is funny, you are like when you get in a car. Don't think those trunks are getting bigger. I got a BBL for you. Earning a car, like having a car at the beginning is like a marriage. It's like at the beginning you're so hot for it

and then like Billy's like 15 years in with this thing. There's no more date nights for Billy in his car. I don't think I don't see the cracks on the interior Whatever that thing is called dashboard But the body language you had oh she is the crack of your ass The body language that you had when your car started telling you I don't know what it was the thing that made you go over the top But that resentment came forth and and what I saw and I haven't seen him in a while Was a Billy Gill who has had enough saying to his car?

Yeah, no my whole ass like get that's it You're not gonna also rise this to the level of nagging me as well. Correct, but the divorce is gonna be costly, so we're in this together. You don't get to have a voice and also nag me. Hmm. I don't know about that. The car. Yeah, how did we end up here? What, it pissed you off. Why did it bother you so much?

I don't even remember how this started. Why did the car get the car? Billy blackeded out? Oh the cars are listening to us and now They're also talking to us flirting with Billy not listening enough He does take good care of that car. I do. Yeah. That's full of trash half the time. Yeah, but you take it to see the water every day. That's true. Lots of cars don't see the water.

That's not disputable. It's called rain. It gets rained on. That's when it sees water. So it is disputable, isn't it? Yes. It's just rain. There are no cars that don't get rained on. Don Lebatard.

You are very comfortable talking about how you met your wife, how much you love her, how important she is to you, and that's the reason that I asked the question. I've always admired that about you, that you are, you have no problems whatsoever professing your love. Well, the thing is, I got a new wife now. You know, maybe I didn't make it. So I moved on. We moved on. It was for the better for both of us.

Still gots things just got a little awkward there. Uh, so let me be the first on this show to congratulate you on the new wife. Vince, congratulations on, on on on feeling whole feeling complete. You know? Let's talk tailgating. Yeah. Don't be. Don't don't feel awkward buddy. I don't. I mean. It's too late for that. I appreciate you soothing me in this regard, but I already feel terribly awkward. And then my teammate comes to my defense with not a question, but just a healthy congratulations. And the further pointing out of that awkwardness because he's always good for me in those spots. I'm also thinking of divorce Vince after many, many years, 18 years with a

partner who does things like that to you. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugas. Deve Sarkeesian, Tuberville, Tuberville, Tuberville, Tuberville route. Deve Sarkeesian. Inclusiveness. Inclusiveness. Inclusiveness. One of the great benefits of being a professional critic, Stugatz, many years, is that we could come on to these microphones and say, we're better than others at everything and then not be able to correctly, publicly speak our criticism. Well, that's you. I mean, I know you're better understood. You're better at this. But a lot of people today in football, if yesterday and the last couple of days have been these wacky fun transaction,

like isn't this great that we all get to watch the NFL have its administration day where the salary cap means players are changing teams and we love all that stuff and we eat it up. When one of the things that happens on that day is that the Carolina Panthers who last year and over the last couple of years have been led poorly chewed up whatever that was with Matt rule and you make a mistake as simple as Bryce Young's CJ Stroud and you're proper bleeped. And so Carolina thought, I don't know if you know the story of Brian Burns, do-gots, but

so edge rushers are hugely valuable and the Rams were quicker to some of the values in that sport than the other teams were. And they saw in Carolina an edge rusher that they thought they could get 20 sacks from. If we put them on a line with Aaron Donald. And so they offered at one time four Brian Burns. I think they offered two firsts and a second for him. And the Panthers said, absolutely not.

We do not trade this person. And he had eight sacks last year for a two for him. And the Panthers said, absolutely not. We do not trade this person. And he had eight sacks last year for a two-win team. And now they've traded him for like a second and a fifth. And then to make it better, they swapped like one place in the fifth round, but they didn't get nearly as much as they were offered. They were offered a haul for him. Right.

Like a haul for a pass rusher and his youth. And now the Panthers, before they've gotten to 26 years old, I think they've gotten rid of McCaffrey, DJ Moore and Brian Burns. And they could have gotten a hall, they took Bryce Shung and the reason the Panthers aren't the Texans is because you make that mistake and it'll set you back and now you're the laughing stock of the league.

You're the worst team in the league and everybody can see. Okay. Did I get $5 there? Did I? It should have been $5. Right to Jess. Clear for me.

Mm-hmm. 10. Well, I mean she gets it. But is it five or did I tough through it? The larger point I'm making those stu-gats is it's easy for us to criticize, but that is mismanagement of the highest order when I think, I'm pretty sure that they gave up, yeah, they gave up more for, this is from Will Brinson, they gave up more for Darnold than they got for Burns.

That's crazy. Yeah, they're not a great organization, also unlucky. And we don't know if Bryce Young's gonna turn out to be good. We have no idea. We know CJ Stroud is very, very good. He could turn out to be good, Dan. But all of that can be corrected if you draft the right quarterback, right?

So maybe they didn't do it this time around, but there will be more opportunities and that can make all the bad stuff go away. It does. Look at the Chiefs. They're the worst ranked organization. No one likes the owner. No one likes the facilities. Everyone wants to go there. Why? Patrick Mahomes. I want to bring in Dukey here because you're just saying no one knows what Bryce Young is and I feel like everybody knows that's not gonna be good enough it's not gonna get good enough fast enough there enough like that and and that's over am I wrong about this that it was a kind of incompetence you saw last year that it's not Jared

Goff is gonna look like that one year and then I put him in a different offense and he looks like something else I thought we were all in agreement that the most incompetent quarterback play that there was at the professional level last year was Bryce Young and Carolina. They must have thought offense align was the problem because they did spend on two guards, 150 million the last couple of days.

They got Robert Hunt from the Dolphins and Damien Lewis, 150 mil for two guards. And traded for Deontay Johnson, right? Yeah, so you're just saying that's it? Okay, no. Bryce Shung, that's it. You're giving them one year and saying, that's it, I'm proud of you.

If that's what you're doing, that's a great take. I wasn't actually intending to do that. Okay. I just thought everybody had done that. I think it's just that it's really hard to overcome a disastrous rookie season when you have issues with your coach, offensive coordinator, all of those types of things.

Not so much that he was bad, although he was probably the worst of all the first round quarterback picks. We didn't get to see a full season of all of them. But, yeah, it's unusual to have a rookie season at that position and then come back from it. It's only because of CJ Stroud. That's what hurts him.

Yeah. Like if CJ Stroud didn't have that season, but also Anthony Richardson played really well until he got hurt. Right. Oh, but guys, I don't think it's just the micro here. Jordan Love got a little more time and now we're like, okay, he got there. He's going to be good. We all know he's going to be good.

You get the pieces around him, you protect him, you figure it out, you've got a quarterback at value. But if we're going to turn Transaction Day into All Money Day and then the running back's not worth anything, Saquon Barkley gets nothing compared to the wide receiver because all the finances of the game have changed You speed up this quarterback track so much that hey Bryce young you get two years or get out of here We'll get more value. We'll get the next Caleb Williams We don't even know if Justin Fields can play anymore if Caleb Williams is available because it's not just the great quarterback

That's the greatest value now. No, it's the great quarterback cheap for a few years. It's the great quarterback you're good right away. We've sped all this up, Stu, guys. So you don't, a quarterback now is going to get, are you kidding me? If you set the rookie wage scale on quarterbacks and you say, you don't think that what happened to the running backs going to happen to the quarterback where you've got a year, two years, three years, you're out of here, we'll flip over the organization, we'll flip over the finances, it's all about one year deal, two years yields, we're gonna fight you on where the value is

at this position. It's happening already, it happened with the Jets with Zach Wilson, you know, a year, year and a half and then they went out and got Aaron Rodgers who's running for vice president. Carolina's also dysfunctional, right? like with their owner firing their coach, like he's not exactly in a great position to succeed right now. So like you can't hold everything against him. He didn't look great, right, but he's also a rookie. Like that happens sometimes. He

didn't have a line. He just coach got fired midway through the season. Like I don't think you pulled a plug on him already. It's wild how being short really doesn't help you in this sport. Right. I feel like if Daniel Jones, we gave a long leash to, we're like, we'll give you time, you look kind of athletic. A short guy has a bad year, we're like, not good. But Daniel Jones would play off game on the road against Kirk Cousins. Like, he got that contract.

The contract he's currently in right now is only based on that one game in the postseason. One game. Yeah, in hindsight, maybe it wasn't the best choice. Even the narrative. They're like, ooh, ah. I live on Daniel Jones, though. I just feel like we gave him more slack at the beginning. Well, I think a better comp would be Trevor Lawrence,

because Trevor Lawrence's rookie season, Urban Meyer, gets fired after 15 games. They're scandal. They don't have much of a team around him. And it's fair to question what his career trajectory would look like if there was a little bit more stability just in that year. He's played better since that year,

but he's still not the prospect that a lot of people thought he would be coming out of high school and college. But I think the point Dan tried to make is, with quarterbacks, we used to give them a lot more time. But now, having a quarterback on a rookie contract and having a good quarterback on a rookie contract has become the most valuable thing in that sport if you can have Joe Barrow if you can have a guy like that so you have a year or two to get it done

and then the team is on to the next guy that's it well quarterbacks also used to sit for like two or three seasons and learn Rogers did started yeah well the thing that homes did the thing that I just like to ask all of you if it all speeds up if all of it speeds up to that rate I just like to ask all of you if it all speeds up if all of it speeds up to that rate I would like to ask for the expertise of everybody in the room can you all gather together even at the same time if you'd like and explain to me the following because I want this expert analysis because if you're going to change the finances of the game we're all going to pretend to be interested in the finances or like I don't think he's worth those 50 million.

He's overpaid by 10 million. When Dan Graziano says to you, as he did on national television, he's a credible person, he says to you, Justin Fields is not worth more than Gardner Minshew, Sam Darnold, Andrew Locke and Jacobi Brissette. You guys explained that to me. Did the finances of the game change so much that I no longer have any understanding of what the value of things in that sport is? Let us clear it up for you. Well... I I just heard in the middle of that a Dan Graziano. Who is he?

Followed up by Graz. Ha ha ha ha ha. Stugaz. Fair question. Stugaz. Ha ha ha ha ha. And what did Dan Graziano do to deserve that? What has he ever done? That's my point.

No! Graz, I'm sorry. I'm just saying, Justin Fields upside. He's not bad. I mean, come on, Garner Minshew, please, $10 million. Did Graziana report that the Dolphins were going to franchise Tag Wilkins? Because I'm here for a feud. Just a raging war against Dan Graziana.

It's an odd war. For daring to say. I mean, just, I really, I understand it better now that you guys have explained it. But when I say again that he's reporting that Justin Fields isn't worth more than Gardner, Minshew and Jacobi Brissette and Andrew Andrew Locke's to God's. Yeah, Drew Locke. That's a five. Drew Locke. Sorry. I'd rather have a merging of Drew Lock and Andrew Lock

that becomes Andrew Lock. Come on, like what are we doing? What are we doing? I'm reporting that the Dolphins are not gonna tag Christian Wilkins, how about that? Graz. Who the hell is he? That's gonna be the podcast description on this.

Graz, who the hell is he? He came up through this market. He's been a professional. He's been a grinder through the journalism award. Run a team already. Who the hell is he? He's got an accomplished credentialed journalistic career. Dan, name his podcast.

Yeah. He's got a podcast. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha.