The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Gummies, Publix And The Island Green

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

Jason Concepcion and Shea Serrano of the Six Trophies Podcast join the show to talk about the hottest topics in basketball after staying up late watching the NBA. Plus, they have dueling Top Fives with Stugotz of "Forgotten Phoenix Suns." Chris wants to play a game called "Too Soon?" after Rick Pitino made a COVID joke. Jason Kelce's dog passed away and Billy sends his condolences to Kelce's friend, Amin. The crew discusses Sydney Sweeney's new movie and movies you watch for the wrong reasons. Finally, Amin and Stu share their thoughts on Isaiah Thomas wanting an "international apology" from Michael Jordan, Stu has a March ahead of him and Mike is fed up with Rory McIlroy. Also, don't forget to sign up for Merch Madness on lebatardaf.com in preparation for the brackets coming out this Sunday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries

that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. Our next guest, you know these guys from Grantland, they work together on Shea Serrano's show, Primo. Six Trophies is their NBA podcast.

You can catch it wherever you get podcasts. It's Shea Serrano and Jason Concepcion. Look at that. What up, baby? Yeah! Super early after spending the night watching TNT basketball. Yeah! How much coffee have you got in you, Jason? early after spending the night watching TNT basketball.

How much coffee have you got in you, Jason? None, this is just the pure love of the game. High on life, got it. Let me start with the Celtics and the Suns. I was talking to the guys here and told them that Joe Mazzula Missoula came out and contested the Royce O'Neill. Come on. After what's that? Is that inspired coach or is that insanity? I mean, it's funny and I'm glad it happened, but

you can't, what are you doing? What's going on? Come on, Joe. I kind of feel like he's painted himself into a corner where either he's the coaching genius that everyone will bend the knee to, or he's gonna get fired very soon. Because you can't be that eccentric and not win. There's no in between. You got to win.

You got to win. You got to win. Yeah, they have to win the champion. If you win the championship, then doing all of that goofy stuff makes sense. And you're like, oh, it worked. Pat Riley dunking his head into the bucket full of water and holding his breath. Like it worked. It makes sense.

But if you lose, then it doesn't. Then you're like, all right, all right. You got it. But Pat didn't bring the pat didn't bring the bucket to the sidelines. You know, I do think that there is something of the of the Pat Riley approach to Joe. I think he's trying to be like, hey, like we got to be ruthless. We got to be crazy.

We got to do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu like in the arena. You can't let guys just have free shots, even if it's after the whistle. Like we are going for the championship. We got to watch the town 500 times a day and just be about it. And I think that's probably where this comes from. That said, that was that was just what if he slipped and fell? That's what I was thinking. What if he what if he came down like on on a guy's foot and then twisted his ankle

and his out? What if that happened? It'd be a different story. Yes, we agree. An entirely different story, but it didn't happen. But don't you think like the guy that that fans are going to come down on is not Missoula, it's going to be Jason Tatum. Now, Ami might be right because you can't get rid of Jason Tatum. You can't fire Joe Missoula. But Tatum is going to take the heat if the Celtics don't win it.

Right. Tatum absolutely. Well, Jason and I were just talking about that on the show this past week after their after their game against the Nuggets. They like 15 points or something. He just didn't look right that you were on the Celtics subreddit and they're just ripping them to shreds. Like that's what they do. That's the guy that they go to, which makes sense.

That's your best player. That's the guy who's supposed to deliver the championship. And if he doesn't deliver the championship, even more than the coach, that's who Celtics fans will go after. It's him first for sure. He's always at, you know, he's the point of that, of that arrowhead.

I don't know, man. I just feel like when Missoula does things like that, then it's just, there's no other logic. Everyone's gonna say, well, if they had like a normal coach. They would've. They've had a normal coach though. The normal coach didn't work either. How about if they had a star that could shoot in crunch time?

Oh, no. Second, it's a little overblown, though. Yeah, I mean, but Brown's been amazing over the last for the entire season. And the left thing has not been as big of an issue. Turnovers haven't been as big of an issue. To me, it's like, listen, they blow teams out. They're a historic regular season team. They're killing teams.

Their net rating is like plus 11 something. The issue is close games. Like, what is the game plan in close games? Denver has a thing that they go to, it works every time that, you know, the Yogi Chimurri pick and roll. What do the Celtics do? And I think part of this is a function of the fact that they blow everybody out. They don't really get to practice the clutch close game execution. And that's where it feels the most shaky. That's an awesome take that the reason why they're not good

at close games is because they don't have enough practice at it, like, hey, I'm never in a close game situation. They've played in the tunnel for the last couple of years. No, no, not enough, Stu, guys. Not enough to figure it out. Never enough. Jalen Brown liked this tweet recently. It was a tweet that said, if Jalen Brown was the number one

on a team, he would average over 30 a game and be in the MVP conversation, which is my favorite bar of them all, the MVP conversation bar. Not to be confused with that hack. What's his name? What's that hack's name over at Fox? Nick Wright. I forget his name because I don't know his content.

It's like a nightclub or something, an MVP nightclub or something. Yeah, he stole my idea. An easy name. The MVP conversation bar. Should Jaylen Brown be admitted into the MVP conversation bar? Jason Concepcion, would he be on his own team? If he was on his own team?

Yeah, I think he'd be in the conversation. He'd be in the top five MVP candidate. How good of a conversation. How good of a team? What's that? How good of a team would it be? They'd be a they'd be like a... If he was the best player, they'd probably be like a fourth, fifth seed. They'd be pretty good with a puncher's chance.

No, I think they're six. They're seven. If he was on his own team, it would be a Lucas situation, where he would be getting crazy numbers, and that's why we're going to talk about him in the MVP conversation, but the team is a seven seed. Like they're not gonna win the championship is how that goes. They're not gonna win the championship.

Wow. Yeah. I'll go one further. I don't even think he'd be in the MVP conversation. I think he'd put up crazy numbers. I think he'd like 30 that yes, but the difference between him and Luca is Luca passes. Luca passes really well, right? And Jalen Brown passes,

but not well enough to lift a team, I think, beyond, like you said, a six or a seven, Shay. I don't think he went 50 games, if he were the best player on the team. Wow. I think that's like a 47-win team. His passing's been better this season. Better.

You know, he makes the easy pass, and I think he makes it pretty well. To be fair to him, it's also not his role to be that playmaker guy. Jalen, don't forget this. I believe in you. I believe you can win 50 games as the best player. Don't forget that.

All right, they beat the Suns, as we said last night. The Suns are currently tied for seventh in the West. Is this a case, Shay, of time running out or is this a tiger waiting to pounce? The Suns? No, that time is over. It's passed. As soon as Giannis blocked Aitin in the finals,

that was like, all right, this window has slammed shut. They're not going to they're not doing it this year. They're not going to do it. And it's just gotten progressively worse since then. As good as it feels like they should be. I think all of us are like, because we've been watching them for so long, because we've been watching Durant, Book, Beal, Beal and Durant more than Book. But it's like we sort of automatically subtract four years from their playing career. And we're just like, Oh, it's this is 20, this is 2017, it's 2018.

Kevin Durant, there's 2017, 2018 Bradley Beal. But it's, it's, they're not going to do, they're not going to do anything. They're not scary at all. Jason and I talk a bunch about which, which of the teams are you afraid of if you're on a different team? And I don't think anybody right now is afraid of the Phoenix Suns. Like you happily play them in the playoffs. I would disagree from this standpoint guys. The Suns like the teams you're looking at in the West, they've never done it. Talk about not playing in big games. Oklahoma City, the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Clippers, the Pelicans, the Sacramento Kings.

If the Suns play any of those teams, I take them to win that series. Not Denver, but those other teams. Yeah. Interesting. I just think that core has never played. This is their first year playing together. And I think that's really hard to do,

is be a championship level team that goes that even gets the conference finals. And this is your first year playing together. I think that's really difficult. And the eye test and the record test tells me that it's just too high a mountain to climb anyway. Like they really need to start collecting some of these wins. And it just feels like it's not going to happen. Waiting for that other year and you don't see it. Yeah, last night was a perfect example.

The game starts. Kevin Durant is playing incredible. And you're like, oh, cool. If Kevin Durant hangs 50, maybe the, maybe the sons can win. But then the shots started in this started, the second half starts, they just start falling further, and all of a sudden they're down by 20 points. You're like, what the heck just happened?

Like they're missing that beat, they're missing that piece of it right now. I don't think it's there. You guys have a top five for us, top five forgotten Phoenix Suns. Oh wow. Yeah, now just to counterpoint, Stugats has also come up with his own top five. Yeah, I have top five Suns. Oh, wow. Yeah. Now, just to counterpoint, Stugatz has also come up with his own top five.

Yeah, I have top five sons we'll never forget. How about that? Never forget, okay. So this is what we're gonna do. You guys are gonna say five, then Stugatz is gonna say five, then four, then four, and we'll alternate

and we'll play a little fanfare in the middle. Sounds good, let's do it. Here we go, let's go. Who's saying number five? Number five. Thank you. Shay and Jason first, yeah, go. Yeah's go. Who's saying number five? Number five. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Truck Robinson. I forgot he was a son. Number five. You got Tom Chambers. Oh, wow. Stole one of

ours. What? How could he be forgotten? Don't go on Mark Jackson. Number four. How? Big O, Oliver Miller. Yes. Number four is Stugots. Dan Marley, Thunder Dan. Refresh my drink for a second, so there's his sons that-

Refresh my drink. Forgotten. Forgotten. Forgotten Phoenix Sons, mine, our top five sons, will never forget. Just making sure. Number three, Shay and Jason. Dick Van Arsdale. Oh, the original son.

Van Arsdale Brothers. Number three, Sugat. Omari Stoudamire. Standing tall and talented. Number two, Jason and Shay. Technically, a Minnesota forgotten legend, but I'm gonna call him a son's forgotten legend, Thomas Gugliotta. Tom Gugliotta. He's a forgotten legend as well. Tom, a Minnesota forgotten legend, but I'm gonna call him a son's forgotten legend,

Thomas Gugliotta, Tom Gugliotta. He's a real legend as well. A couple weeks ago. Good one. Number two's Dugats. Kevin Johnson. Oh. Okay.

And the number one forgotten Phoenix son according to Shay Schlerano and Jason Concepcion is? My favorite Phoenix son's player of all time, Roger Bell. Wow. That's by you, Paul Zung. That's by you, Paul Zung. That's my vet. is my favorite Phoenix Suns player of all time Raja Bell That's my vet hopefully the Sun comes to the you the number one Suns two gods that you will never forget Charles Barkley Cedric'sabalas has the blindfold on, he's running around. I can't find his way to the arena.

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I don't want to play this game. I could do such a great kind of oh, I don't want to play this game. He's like man This is who we're gonna trust Let's let a mean do it. I think oh gods I think you could do it Chris cuz you did a great Charles Barkley your one for one there Did no one just hear the segment? We just did with the mean we cannot be taking judgment is that the council from the local drunk on whether or not you? Should do the impersonation of a black man stumbling over his words. Like you don't see the bad charge in that. There was.

Moza Moody, Moody Moses, Moses Moody. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. It sounds worse. Chris, be careful, man. We gotta, like, we cannot do this. It's too close to the line. This is where the line is. Something legitimately funny can't be funny

because we're scared our ginger is gonna do something racist by accident Carry the hell on Dan Rachel Dan the line is where we feel alive though This is the Dal LeBatard show with the StuGats Guys I want to play a game. I like to call it's a new game, I don't think we've ever played it before, it's called Too Soon? Question mark? Hmm.

Alright, so we have tonight at 5.30, is that tonight or this evening? Today at 5.30, St. John's in Yukon playing in the Big East Tournament. Wow. It's a big matchup. It's a classic. Wow. The Garden? Wow.

No, this is a classic, like this takes me back to a time where the Big East meant something, where Yukon and St. John's actually meant something. Georgetown and Pitt actually meant something. Syracuse versus Georgetown or Seton Hall meant something. This feels like that. This is pretty cool. Patino out for blood. In our first edition of Too Soon?

We're going to listen to Rick Patino here being asked what UConn has to do, no, what St. John's has to do to beat UConn. UConn tomorrow, what do you have to do to knock him off? We gotta have about six of the players get COVID. Thank you, coach, congratulations. Too soon? Was that taken in his crypt?

You guys see that? And I asked you Congratulations. Too soon? Was that taken in his crypt? You guys see that? And I asked you guys too soon? Like COVID jokes? No, not too soon. No, it's been 50 years. Yeah. It's been a ride. 50 years.

The more important part is look how Rick Pitino changed the outcome of St. John's season. He roasted everybody in that press conference. Said he had no people that could move laterally. He said he had bums on the team. He didn't recruit me suck all of a sudden fighting first spot in the big East It's a 20 CB coach talk to him Pete Bell Shout out to coach Pete Bell of Western remember them still got to add a great run in the tournament No, no, you don't remember Pete Bell. No, okay, and that was the first installment of too soon

neon baddow at center, he's dominant. I can't get over. Oh, Neon Baddow. I can't get over the Johnnys in Yukon doing battle in the Big East Conference Tournament at MSG. I could bet. Goosebumps. Maybe my wife to go out of town for this one.

So I can watch it with Sal. Can't get her into Patino? Yeah. Tell her you're gonna watch a vampire movie. That is a tough self. Hey, we're gonna watch Dracula tonight movie. That is a tough sell. Hey, we're gonna watch Dracula tonight. What is the toughest sell?

Because I maintain Tony trying to sell his wife on watching Pascal Siakam is the toughest of sports sells to your wife. It is. Hey, honey, let's sit down and watch Siakam. This guy Oliver in crazy shopping, he's good. You haven't laid out your Friday night plans, which include high lie.

You guys are the best husbands ever. You haven't laid out your Friday night plans, which include high lie. No. You guys are the best husbands ever. I'm gonna say that right now. Thanks. Thank you. You know, Dan sits in his seat, and he roasts you guys mercilessly for your relationships. But I'm here to say, I've met,

I think everyone's significant other. Most of them, no, I haven't met Abby, that's not true. Okay. But from what I know about you guys, wonderful, wonderful, significant others. You guys do a great job. And they're lucky to have you guys, how about that? That's right. Thank you.

I don't know about that. No, no, no, no, don't play modest now, Roy. I do think my wife's very lucky. Well, I didn't say lucky. Did I say lucky? Yeah, you did. You said you were lucky to have us. Lucky might have been too far. And then, I think, nailed right on the head.

Blessed? Blessed. Now, it's a two-way street, but you know, sometimes it should require some acknowledgement that I'm quite the catch too. Giving a take. Ha! It's the guttos that laugh.

Mike being quite the take. Well, just like, have some respect for yourselves. Right. You know? I mean, by the way, you've met Abby. Have I? Massive it, yeah. Oh man.

You were drunk, it's okay. Come on, man. You can't expect me to remember. That's not fair. That does not count. You're right. I have a question for you, Amin. Yes.

I know the answer. But I wanna ask you. Those are the best questions. Smart man said never ask a question you don't already know the answer to. His question is the best question. Say the answer and then he asks the question. Oh so Jason Kelsey is having a moment correct? My good friend Jason Kelsey. Is he your good friend? Yeah. Oh wow then I want to. No no go ahead ask the question. I want to I want to pass along my condolences to you then as well because Jason Kelsey's Beloved dog Winnie has passed away

It's bad now here's kind of my question Respectfully and maybe this is a new segment of too soon. Oh, no Again, Jason Kelsey's dog passing away. Yes. Worthy of a TMZ story? Yeah. No. Depends on what the time of the...

It's a slow day for TMZ. They would... It was today. Today is the day. They would acknowledge that. That surname does numbers. Yeah, sorry. It's not even editorially, is it worth it?

It's all about traffic these days. Did they work swift into the article? They had to. They had to. Yeah. There's no chance that there's no mention. Well, is it worth it? It's all about traffic these days. Did they work Swift into the article? They had to. They had to. There's no chance. Well, is it indeed an article? Yeah, there actually is. I'm still going down here, and somehow, in fact,

the brothers just bought her something about a zoo date with Taylor Swift and Travis. There you go. It has nothing to do with the dog. You know what? Everyone says Travis is so lucky to have Taylor, and he is, but Taylor, you're lucky to have Travis. Thoughtful guy. There are just certain people that do numbers. is so lucky to have Taylor and he is but Taylor you're lucky to have Travis Yeah, thoughtful guy just certain people that do numbers Jason's lucky to have both Sydney Sweeney does numbers Sydney Sweeney has an upcoming horror movie

She's a good actress. She's an amazing actress Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but if you go to the IG page for this upcoming If you go to the IG page for this upcoming release, huh? They are very they, they are very calculated that the name Sydney Sweeney has to appear in every post. It is like, I forget the name of the movie. But it's such a, but it's starring Sydney Sweeney. It's just to get traffic because she is such a magnet for traffic these days.

Mike, it's no different than when you see, like, you know, someone in a movie, they win an Oscar, and the very next movie they're in says Academy Award winner, right? Remember Halle Berry won the Oscar? The very next movie she had was Gothica, which is a terrible movie. But it's starring Academy Award winner.

Yeah, that's a marketing thing, but this is just starring Sidney Sweeney. She's a huge star. Like, it's a bigger deal that she's in the movie than the movie existing itself. Of course it is. This is about popularity as well. Yeah.

She's really having a moment. Is that what we're doing? Marketing 101 here? Yeah, you mentioned the famous people. No, but every single post. Of course. Every single post is more so, like the movie is like not even really important. What's the name of the movie? Look up the name of the movie. You think it's Immaculate?

It's called Starring Sidney Sweeney. Immaculate, starring Sidney Sweeney. Not even really important. What's the name of the movie? Look up the name of the movie. I think it's a Macular Immaculate starring Sidney Sweeney, but he's saying it's not because she's a great actor. It's because she is popular It's like the Hawks. Why would you market anyone else other than Trey Young? He's not a great basketball player, but he's all you got no this this would be the NBA starring Trey Young is basically Right now with Sidney Sweeney It's an unbelievable run that she's having. Who else is in the cast? I don't quite understand the run that she is having. I understand it.

Did you watch? Yeah, look, did you watch, what's it called, White Lotus? She was awesome in that. Yeah, I watched White Lotus. Did you watch, what's it, Euphoria? She was awesome in that? Euphoria, yeah, she was awesome in that. I did watch Euphoria, and so like,

I've seen Euphoria in doses, and I was like, okay, so this has a very certain style of acting in Euphoria, yes she was awesome. I did watch Euphoria. And so like, I've seen Euphoria in doses, and I was like, okay, so this has a very certain style of acting in Euphoria, everyone has to kind of act like that. It's an 824 movie. And then, and then I watched Sidney Sweeney act in a rom-com and she was acting the exact same way that she was acting in Euphoria, and I was like, oh okay. That movie was bad by the way.

The movie with Glenn Powell? So bad. But, the movie was bad. I thought she was pretty good in it though. What? Yeah, and also Madame Webb. The movie was pretty bad because she was bad by the way. That movie with Glenn Powell? So bad. But, so bad. Movie was bad. I thought she was pretty good in it though. What? Yeah. And also Madame Webb? I thought the movie was pretty bad

because she was in it. One of the only redeeming qualities of Madame Webb was Sydney Sweeney. You saw Madame Webb? No I haven't, but I know that one of the redeeming qualities. Movies you watch for the wrong reasons. Movies you watch for the wrong reasons. Everything was Sydney Sweeney.

Swordfish is up there for me. Swordfish is awesome though. Swordfish is awesome it was a good movie this is great it's a movie that I found for the wrong reasons Chris let me tell you about Hollywood cuz how it's shit utter shit that's how take dog day after John Travolta test you Jackman's chops Oh good. It's like yeah, you can hack but can you get can you hack while getting filleted? And also with a gun also with a gun to your head That part he was used to like honestly, how do you even?

Like one of the two things has to not be going properly You got that kind of pressure on you. You know what I was so confused by is. Swordfish is such a file. Why would he not want to release? Like, okay, like you could still hack and just go, right? Like that, that wasn't the terms of the thing. The terms is just hack in. Like, why is that added pressure?

I love watching like those movies from the late 90s and their interpretation of hacking. Hacking, oh my God. 20 CB, baby. It's just the best. The professor from Money Heist is in this Immaculate movie. Oh yeah, he is. He's Father Sal Tadewski. Give me another actor's name.

You still have a name of someone who's in that movie. There's not really much of them. That's why you say Sidney Sweeney every post. Niccolo Senni. OK, so nobody knows who that is. Right? I guess I don't really recognize this No, the girl from the other season of White Lotus is in this too, right? No, Simona

Right. Oh the Italian girl. Yeah the Italian Italian movie So so what you're telling me is marketing we're gonna market the person that people have actually heard of well The thing is you can't like in this thing be like, oh that girl that's in the White Lotus is in it. Exactly. Like you can't say it like that. You can't be like, oh the professor from Money Heist is in it. He was great though.

Yeah but no one knows his name here. Billy you could. I'm wrong here. She's really good at what she does. I wanna answer Billy's question. Billy you could if it were a black play. Because in black plays, they always say like starring the the cop from that's my mama They do that in black plays all the time when they want to get people out like

Jacobs yeah, sorry the daddy from the Jackson 5 movie But but no you're right you can't for a great movie or a big movie You can't just say hey remember her from this show you got to say the name that people gonna recognize But the Sweeney to Mike's point also, the poster just says Sydney Sweeney, Immaculate. So I think the movie's called Immaculate, but Sydney Sweeney's right above the title. Go to the IG page for Immaculate,

and it's just pretty funny how they decide to format these things. Oh, I'm looking at, yo, she's the star of the trailer. She's a major star now. Okay, so what are you fighting here? Well, I guess You know what? Star above the title it's crazy. We're at that point, but yeah, okay. Why wouldn't we be at that point?

Why is it crazy? She's a movie star? Yeah? Mm-hmm No, please Look the class would like to know Michael. He made it clear. He doesn't think she's a great. I don't personally I don't personally I don't personally read I Don't like when any movie has like the star above the title like it's just a movie like why does this need to be? No, I need Liam Neeson's name So I know exactly what I'm getting into But that's Liam Neeson. He's fortified in a tremendous that he was a lesbian before I just I was trying to help you out Mike

It was a poster for retribution. It's just him looking scared. It says Liam. Yeah, I can't be beekeeper. It has to be Jason Keeper no, I have not what in the break. I will play it for you because this no hard feelings has to have Jennifer Lawrence I I get Did you guys watch what happened in Indian Wells last night the bees Sydney was out of town last night No, I that's late though Indian Wells, right? Well, it was a 6 o'clock Eastern start time. All right. Alcaraz was playing.

And I tuned in. And I was at a sports bar. And a bunch of different things were going on. And I thought that they were showing B-roll. And I saw, oh, B-roll. There was a two hour delay. There was a two hour delay because there was a two-hour delay because there was a beast a swarming of bees

They attacked Alcaraz the the judge and then this Renegade showed up with a vacuum with no gloves and he just got rid of them all he sucked them all up. Hey, yo Don libertard Bench cheer that type of stuff Tom Brady went down with an Achilles the only time he got hurt in his entire career and I was fist-pumpin' in my living room at home because the Jets finally had a chance to win a division. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that is one of the most amazing sentences

you've ever uttered. Stugatz. From the maker of Trust Me, Don't Trust Me comes I'm sorry but I'm not going to apologize you are amazing you are a flabbergasting delight you happen upon genius comedy by accident that's my gift this is the Lebatar Show with the Stugats. Stugats yesterday on the show, Dan, I demanded Dan make an apology to Charlotte Wilder because she said bet on the Pistons and because of Todd Gibson and Dan thought that was preposterous and then of course the Pistons won the game

and I said she deserves an apology from Dan and not just a national apology, an international apology and I thought everyone was gonna crack up and nobody got the reference. So I realized that we've gotta set this whole thing up because Isaiah Thomas. A rare set up after the joke. Exactly.

Ride with Thomas. A day later. A day later. No better time than the set up after the joke. Exactly. Right with Thomas. A day later. A day later. No better time than the 24 hours in the future. So back to Zeke. Zeke was Andre Mongrin's podcast and he said Michael Jordan owes him an apology

and I wanna play the clip right now so he can hear him. Where's y'all relationship at today and is that salvageable? No. Not salvageable. This dude got on national television, international television and called me an asshole, somebody who's been really good to him. And until he apologizes on international television, we ain't no conversation conversation you can't you can't apologize and have a private dinner

When you didn't embarrass me publicly if you didn't mean it Say it publicly now if you meant it let it stand Now I get it So his airness needs to go on canal plus Sorry So his airness needs to go on Canal Plus. Plus. Canal Plus. Sorry. International TV. International television.

Right. Sugat, does Michael Jordan owe Zeke an international apology? Zeke needs to get over it, man. The fact that he's still going on podcasts and shows and demanding Michael make some sort of apology that he knows he's never going to make, Michael's not apologizing to him. Michael doesn't apologize to anyone, nor should he. Let me stick up for Zeke here. He gets asked this question. He doesn't come in and say, I want to talk about Michael Jordan. They ask him the question, and so he answers. He

answers it truthfully. I understand that. So maybe it's Andreyon for asking a question that he's been asked a thousand times. Yeah. Like the most cliche, like, if you have Isaiah Thomas on, one of the first five things you're writing down, Michael Jordan, apology. Which means it's a bad question because it's been asked a thousand times. Actually, I'm gonna go off Andremon here. That is a terrible, you want to have a podcast that is different, that stands out, You wanna have a podcast that is different, that stands out, because there are a billion podcasts out there, don't ask the same questions

we all ask of Isaiah Thomas. You're Draymond Green, you wanna be different, be different, you wanna be different, ask different questions than I would ask of Isaiah Thomas. That's what I was gonna ask you. So if Isaiah Thomas were a guest on this show, what would you ask him? I would ask him, does Michael Jordan owe you

an international apology? I mean. Now, there's another clip, Stu Gotts. And this one, I believe, was tailor-made for you. Can we roll that clip? Michael Jordan's last All-Star game, I coached his last All-Star game. Vince Carter had won the starting spot.

I took Vince Carter aside, and I convinced him to give his spot to Michael Jordan. I never knew this dude felt the way he felt until the last dance. Wow, really? I'm like, all these years, you've been standing behind a tree throwing stones and letting somebody else take the fall for it.

Had I known you felt that way, I definitely would have treated you differently. Hey, I only know how people are with me when they treat me. Now, some people will say, well, why didn't you shake his hand? The champions, they always left the court. And then they would come into your locker room after the game and shake your hand and say congratulations.

That's how it goes. Chicago, they're the only champion that still cries about somebody not shaking their hand. All right, Stu, guys, I wanna lead off. There were three things that he said there in that video. Number one is I'm the one that convinced Vince Carter to give up his starting spot to Michael Jordan. Number two is I didn't know Michael Jordan

felt that way about me until I watched the last dance. That's ridiculous. And number three is, hey, back in my day, the champs would never shake your hand, but they would come into the locker room afterward. Now that last one, I can tell you, specifically the Celtics did that to the Pistons in 88. When the Pistons beat the Celtics in 88,

they didn't shake their hands on the court. They walked off and then later on they came in the locker room and congratulated them. And I know that- They walked off early while the game was still going on? They walked off early. Okay. I think McHale was the only guy that stayed out.

Did they have the same looks on their faces? Cause you know, it was a thing. No, it was- And the Pistons did it. It was a thing when the Celtics did it, but nobody made it a thing. So I'm going to- Is this a two Americas?

I'm going to defend him on, well, that's his assertion is that you guys didn't have a problem when the Celtics did it. The second point is, I can't believe that. It's laughable. Where he didn't know, he was left off a dream team because everyone kind of knew this. And he started complaining right then and there.

So I mean, he knew. He knew. So which one do you think is a larger untruth? Is it, I didn't know that Michael felt that way about me until I watched the last dance, or is it, I'm the one that convinced Vince Carter to give up his starting spot to Michael Jordan, even though they both played at Carolina?

I would say it's easy. Like him saying that he didn't know how Michael Jordan felt about him, he's known that forever. Well, we should ask Vince Carter that, or someone should. Someone needs to ask Vince Carter, because it could be that he was a voice in Vince Carter's ear, but there were other people maybe relaying this message. Everything that I knew about the whole Dream Team thing was that Isaiah Thomas was very aware that he wasn't on the Dream team because Michael had an issue with him. That's it it is a fascinating claim to make and so Stu gots I'm going to ask you to make a similar type of

claim right now no prep he does not know I'm gonna ask him this question I'm filibustering right now so you can figure it out. Make a claim about your employment here on the Dan LeVittar Show with Stugats that would look as patently absurd as I didn't know Michael Jordan didn't like me until the last dance. Really, you're asking me to do this? On the spot, because I want to test your metal.

You are the world's greatest liar, Stugats, as trumpeted by so many people Including me. Yeah, maybe he's behind Trump Thank you, you got to bring it down Having fun. I'm not comfortable doing this. I have to be honest. You're not comfortable lying Why I mean that's we're most comfortable, but I mean that might have been the lie right there. I'm not comfortable doing this You want me to go off on like how levit comfortable doing this. All right, it's him then Trump. You want me to go off on like how LeBataure

doesn't wind up here if it's not for me, I'm the reason he's here, you know, damn one at the end, he keeps saying Dan and Stu and I keep saying no, it's okay, damn, with Stu is fine enough, yeah, I'm not gonna do that, man. No. I'm not gonna do that. How badly I felt at the beginning of Metal Arc

when I learned my percentage of the company, no, I'm not gonna do that, man. I'm just not gonna do that. I can't do that. I mean, that piece of shit. Not gonna do it. Not gonna do it, it's a Friday, I'm feeling good. Headed into a Friday, you mean.

Abbey's not home. Abbey's not home, gummies, Publix, White Castle Sliders. The Island Green. I got it all all the island green. I got it all I'm not gonna say anything bad about Dan the 16th hole Yeah, what's this dude's problem by the way? We had some laughs Rory the 16th hole Rory is just said just a dope It's a thing with him with the rules always every freaking tournament. There's something with the rules with this guy There is.

And it is real confusing to try to explain everything that happened yesterday with Rory, but it just, the takeaway is, there's something going on with that guy. We'll keep an eye on him. Try to explain it because I think everyday, like average weekend golfers, they would understand this because we do this all the time.

Right, so he had a- But you're not supposed to do it on the PGA Tour. He hit a ball out of bounds early in the round and he took a drop. And apparently the drop from Victor Hovland and Justin Thomas, they were a little skeptical, they don't say anything there. A couple holes later, he has a very similar out of bounds,

and he goes to take another drop, and Victor Hovland basically calls him out, and is just like, I think, which to Stu got his point, every golfer, if you're playing for money and in a competition, you have these arguments of, no, I think your drop is back here, the ball went in there, and it was just an eight minute, you have these arguments of, no, I think your drop is back here, the ball went in there, and it was just an eight minute,

you get to hear inside the ropes, and you hear them arguing, and the takeaway was, Victor and Justin Thomas basically being like, keep an eye on this guy. It was actually pretty cool, because it was a long amount of time that the broadcast was essentially hijacked

by these golfers having this argument, because there was no actual footage of where the ball went out. That's why you have the two sides of the story and you have the solution that Rory pitches to the other golfers. He's like, I'm pretty sure I saw it hit the land before it went in. Let's just split the difference, which is super guilty. He never split the difference. He hit it with the, I'm pretty sure.

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