The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Ham-and-Egger (feat. Dave Dameshek)

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

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There was a place yesterday with Samson where I had some remorse. not pressing him on something when we were talking in reaction to breaking news about politics being involved in any of what you see visited upon sports as Terry Rozier does a perp walk in front of everyone that's purposeful in looking that way. It's offensive and obvious and politically charged. Samson said there is no politics here. Of course there are politics here. Please don't think that these governing institutions are that much smarter. Don't give them too much credit. The FBI could absolutely clown show upon a sports story the way they did with wiretaps in the NCAA and just find a bunch of buffoonery, but Terry Rozier was purposely walked in front of people that way. It was not necessary. It was done on purpose.

Shackled, cuffed on his hands and his feet, as if he were some deranged escape lunatic murderer who assaulted people. Whatever his crime is, even if he's guilty. I don't think that was necessary in any way. I don't think it was necessary that he needed to be arrested. He could have turned himself in. I know his attorney said they didn't even give us an opportunity to turn ourselves in. You should believe less in these institutions than you ever have in your life. I'm talking about both the NBA and investigators and the government.

He's not a flight risk. Matter of fact, you know exactly where he is. It's all very purposeful. So there was just a lot of pageantry going on. Whether a crime was committed or not is irrelevant. It's what kind of crime was committed and what is the reaction in terms of bringing so-called people to justice. I could say that the President of the United States was accused and arrested on assaulting women. He didn't have to do that.

He went in on his own accord. He took his, you know, his mugshots and all that. But they didn't bring the SWAT team and cuff him up. and shackle his feet as well, even though he was accused of doing harm to people. During a time when government institutions are being weaponized, please pay attention to the way things, how they're done, how they're done. Some of these things are very obvious, okay? They are political machines that are now moving powerfully through making it look like the brown people are most dangerous. And so it serves them to chain up Terry Rozier on a crime that doesn't deserve this kind of chaining.

And the media will gather up behind him and throw rocks at Terry Rozier, you're idiot, you're a bad basketball player. And then I don't want to be too hyperbolic here. But there was something of it to me that was reminiscent of many of the ice raids that we've seen around the country. Like, for instance, recently in New York City on Canal Street, the guys were selling kind of knockoff bags or whatever. And it's like, this was all under the guise of,

We're catching murderers and rapists and gang members and terrorists. And you're telling me the guy on Canal Street selling a fake Gucci bag justifies that. And the same way here, we're going to catch these organized crime people and all that. And it's like, so you're going to arrest the basketball player and put him in shackles? What part of that mission is this accomplishing? And it just feels, again, hollow at best and at worst, purposeful in trying to demonize a certain kind of individual. You're going to do a deep dive on the facts of this with Pablo Torre, and there will be more information there than you will find in most places. You tried your best, but you are not going to sway me on.

That is a welcome site, Terry Rozier being dragged away in cuffs. That's great. Sorry. That was very compelling. You almost got you. But it was absolutely necessary. Then you remember it like that game. Then I remember the turnover against OKC.

We are not wrong. in sermonizing against the idea of chaining up the millionaire, the terrible Terry Rozier, you're just good with it because you've said since the beginning. Like, you would have done this to him yourself by as soon as they made the transaction. Citizens arrest. You would have, no, and you would have also framed him. I am taking this man. Look, if these poker games were as dumb and all these people were interacting, you could,

you'd frame Terry Rozier in a game filled with you, succoring him. Just like DiCaprio and the departed. I am a cop. I am taking this criminal. This is my prisoner. My favorite text message I got out of all the text messages around this was a friend of mine sent me a screenshot of a text where someone said, wait a second,

can someone tell Cash Patel that Woody Johnson has been playing in illegal poker games as well? Like if that's what we're doing? A lot of Tua tweets at that too. A lot of tweets. I have been rigging games. My name is Duncan Robinson and I play for the Detroit Pissons. You know, you know,

that the bald guy, the security guy, he can totally frame players if that's how they're going to start getting around the salary cap. There are parts of this that are a thicket of interesting, but Dave Damashek, our favorite football weirdo

is the host of a new Metal Arc podcast. I still don't know how to say the America part. America! Football America! Adda boy. No, how do you say it? It becomes Football Ameri-A-Gas. How do you say it? We couldn't believe that the domain name was available to us. Football America!

As a reminder, Dan Lebitard is the one who put the exclamation point at the back end, and that's what really makes it sing. Pronounce it how you want. Football America knows many regions with distinct accents and otherwise. So go ahead. If you're from Pittsburgh, you can say Football America, Yins, but I don't know how people from South Beach speak. I can't get that patois down. Shout out, though, to my gosh. Guy Amin, Chris Cody, everything's happening this morning, clearly, because Chris Cody, what, like 22 minutes ago, I'm sitting here listening to you guys, flap your gums, and he says, wait, the Seattle Seahawks used to be in the AFC, and on Football America, in really just another matter of minutes here, an hour or whatever, when the show posts, I do a what if about

what if the Seattle Seahawks had stayed in the AFC in 2002. It yields fascinating. results, specifically around a couple of high-end quarterbacks or prominent names in pro football right now. Tony, why are you pointing at Chris here? Chris is like throwing his hands and is there like a gladdy. You're like, are you not entertained? That's called a network synergy, Dano. You meant to be an idiot. Well, what I love too is, like I say, everything's happening. I'm thrilled because like, you know, I think everybody's picking it up. You know, what comes off me is that I'm one of the great empaths in society right now. And, um, you know, I, I was thrilled for my fellow hockey fan last night that, that Roy got to pay witness to the greatest player of the millennium, the guy

who saved the sport of hockey, Sidney Crosby, a couple of goals in vanquishing the, whatever, what's that team, the, the defending champions, back to back, Jack. Yeah, the, Miami's or whatever. the uh but that was great so happy for for everybody there my my heart is full for on roy's behalf and uh whatever you guys want to talk oh i have a quick story though about what you're just talking about there about rigging games i was once about a decade ago um pregame down in uh in chicago downtown in soldier field running around on the field about 45 minutes before kickoff one sunday and um oh look who it is. It's iconic referee, Ed Hockely, running towards me. Right. The guns are out. It's a nice day in Chicago land, and he's running towards me into the bowels of the stadium. And as he goes by me,

I think it'd be cute to do this. As he goes by, I go, hey, ref, and I go into my pocket, and I pull out a dollar bill. And I go, like, let's make sure the home team has a good day today, okay? And he stops, and he goes, what the hell are you doing? And he starts, and I, I, I realize I have aired immediately. I've made a grave mistake. And he said, what do you think you're doing? And I said, I, you know, I was just, you know, having some fun. He's like, you stay right here. Who are you? And, uh, and now the, the shame sweats are starting, you know, the, the cold shield down the spine and everything else. And he runs off and he's replaced, you know, 90 seconds later by a couple of sizable tufts in NFL.

Blazers and they are interrogating me about like who are who do you work for and I said um the NFL I said uh can you please let I don't know why I went into Mr. Hockely mode very quickly I was like please I understand that it was a bad joke but could you please let Mr. Hockely know that it was just a one dollar bill and that I have children and that he eventually, they went back and came back and let me off the love. The moral of the story is in a larger, more human way

that Dave Damashek once offered Ed Hockily a dollar, and Ed Hockyley is a man of such integrity that the entire force of the NFL cape the mob away from Ed Hockily by denying Dameshack his ability to give him a single dollar.

Now, correct? In defense of Mr. Hockley, who's a proud resident in the state of Arizona like myself, Dave, where you, how close for you to the stadium when this happened? I was in the stadium. I was standing in the archway that leads you into the bowels of the stadium from the field. There's 8 billion cameras.

Yeah. And so all they saw was the waving of a single dollar. No, they would have seen him reach and show something. They wouldn't know what Bill it was or anything. And so Ed Hockley's like, I'm not taking any chances here because this Jemot. I need the cameras to see that. I don't like this. I can't believe that's your takeaway. That's not the takeaway here. Dave was being a smart ass and it caught up real quick.

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You're saying that our fourth hour today is just Damashek on the stage. Do you have anyone from our show on your show on football? What's it called? America. Merca. Well, it depends where you're saying it, basically. Anywhere that you are located in Football America, say it how you wish to say it. We have Amon Green Packers icon in advance of the Steelers Packers game.

We talk about who he would rather have, Aaron Rogers or Brett Fav or Jordan Love. He answered it from a football perspective. I was asking which guy is most likely to pick up the dinner tab. But either way, that's a fun question. into all aspects of that showdown on Sunday night, and, you know, listen, we bring on Brandon Perna from a high-end YouTube show called That's Good Sports. We make the game picks, and we dig in on NFL week eight. It's a grand time. Like I say, I tell you what happens if the Seahawks would have just stayed in the AFC back at the dawn of this millennium.

I like that. Synergy. The entire episode, Dave? We're good. I want to talk about last night. No, two minutes. We got back to the what-if. We got back to the what-if. I like the what-if. Yeah, just a couple minutes. You'll deal with it, Mike. It'll be okay.

Hey, I mean, I've been talking a lot about movies. I'm chomping at the bit to talk with you. We've been talking about Tarantino movies and Paul Thomas Anderson movies. One battle after another, one of the real gems of the generation. I'm going to throw this one at you guys. I'm sorry, Dan. I know we want to talk football. But quickly, the game of life matters too.

And watching movies is a big part of my. life and a means. It is. So I'm going to ask this one to the room. Quentin Tarantino character draft. Oh. Long weekend. Who you're riding with. We're driving. This is driving. I'm flying. You can drive it. Let's say it. Yeah, let's say it's a road trip because then you have to deal with people's picadillos. Famously, there was banter in a car between two of the main characters, but that doesn't turn out well. They can be irresponsible if they hit a pothole or something. Well, they don't, they don't turn on each other. Yeah, it doesn't go well for one of them.

Yeah, but we got to pick a singular character, a singular character, okay. Yeah. Phil Lamar. No, wait. No, no, not him. No. Yeah, that is a deep pool. So we're all going to choose our first round pick, our first, our first pick.

Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. You can't share one. I mean, you have the honors. Okay. So I'm going to start with, you know what? Because he seems like a fun time. I'm going to go with my man Jules.

That's who I would have selected. That's how drafts work. He's gone now. Isn't that what everyone wants? Where's your big board? Where's your big board? Come on. You got to take Cooper Flag?

Is that what you're telling me? No, I'm just saying that, like, is there a better character than Samuel Jackson in Pulp Fiction? That's not how drafts work, though. That's off the board now. The Charlotte Hornets are like, I was going to take Wembenyama. No, I want Wemba Nama. Yeah, I'll go next in the draft. Well, I just want to say right out of the gate, this is maybe not the greatest choice that you could have made there.

Why is that? You understand? Because Jules kills people? That's right. And does it with regularity? What do you mean? Why? He pulls out that gun at the drop of a hat.

He's taking it out at a diner. He needed to take it out in that case. But still, I mean, he's a dangerous man. My guy, Jules, does his job. He doesn't kill for fun. He's not a sociopath. He does it for work. He pulled a gun out on a diner.

Why? Because Tim Robb and Honey Bunny pulled out the guns first and tried to stick him up and told him to throw his wallet in there. You know what? He was just trying to mind his business, have some coffee, read the paper. He is a transitioning man. He seemed to be mellowed out as we're watching. I'm trying real hard. You could do worse, that's for sure. It's about enjoying the time with someone in a car. And I'm going to go with, it was tough between Brad Pitt Tarantino characters, torn between Lieutenant Aldo Rain and Cliff Booth.

But even though Cliff Booth probably killed his wife, I'm going with Cliff Booth. You know what? Mike, I think that's the winning choice. That's exactly right. Cliff Booth is a great time, if nothing else. He'll trip out with you at the drop of a hat. He loves drinking beer every night. Yeah, he's a swell fella, and he's a coxman to boot. So yes, there's no downside to hanging out with old Cliff Booth. And importantly, if he has murdered, it was only once. Although my pal Mark Sessler floated a fascinating conspiracy theory. Aldo rain is Cliff Booth. Cliff Booth is Aldo Rain. Aldo Rain leaves WW2 with great success,

lives out for another quarter century, and then arrives on the scene in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Pretty heavy. Pretty good. It checks out. Would no one want to be the detective or the bail bondsman in Jackie Brown? If you don't want conversation in the next seat, because Cliff Brown's not going to give you a much conversation, right? It's not going to be a fun car ride with someone who's real talkative. Well, I mean, Dan, you like to speak. As it happens, I like to speak. So, yeah, I'd like somebody who says interesting things about 20% of the time. I'm engaged in a conversation with them so that I can just overwhelm with the amount of words, I say 80% of the time. Who's your choice, Dan wants to ride with the bell bondsman. I'm like, I want to ride with Jackie Brown.

Hello. Hey. I know what game you're playing, buddy. Hey. I mean, wait, Dan, is your official choice from the galaxy of options, in Tarantino, you're taking the old bail bondsman guy? So, wait a minute. You guys just. With the hair plugs? Listen, you guys did a bait and switch on me.

You only took Brad Pitt because he's going to sit there and listen to you. He's a good listener. I'm like, if that's the kind of character, Jackie Brown's not going to just sit there and listen. I don't want her to listen. Hey, come on now. I mean, listen, the options in Just Once Upon a Time in Hollywood are plentiful. Rick Dalton is a, he's a drunk who has a million stories about show business. He's an out-of-control drunk.

I'm kind of with, like, the... Hey, Cliff, you remember that time Stephen Morris dropped back through five tuddies? Like, you would just sit there and be like, all right, Mike. So just be in ear. So he would just be a forehead who would collect your boring Pittsburgh Steelers stories. I can finally... I get to football now. Let me regale you about...

I don't know about... I'm not familiar with what stories you're talking about, because the stories you're talking about are boring. My stories about the Pittsburgh Steelers, rich and... You've got Pittsburgh going back to Green Bay this weekend. That's the storyline game, right? That's one of the worst uniform games of all time. We're mowing through the backup quarterbacks. It's going to spit up.

The machine's going to spit up people. But this weekend, at the end of Aaron Rogers' career, I called Aaron Rogers one of the great underachievers of my lifetime. Because like Shaq, I just expected more winning because that's a four-time MVP. I want him to win all the time. These are the last fumes of this and the last chance. And he goes back to Green Bay and he's got a kind of, enjoy this spot? Enjoy this spot? I'd rather it be, as you described him going to Green Bay. It's

Green Bay coming to his new home and his to visit his new life. I like the way I consider it. And for all the talk, these guys don't want the white hot light of attention. Well, they do want the attention, but they don't like it if it might go against them a little bit. And so Aaron Rogers is saying, all the good stuff, all the nice stuff, like absence makes the heart grow fonder. Like, did things get weird in Green Bay in my last days? I hardly even remember that. I wish him nothing but the best though. But clearly, clearly, he wants to win real, real bad. And you can feel it coming off of him. And he's the junior copywriter in the elevator next to Don Draper. And Don Draper is Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers organization looking back at him and saying,

I don't think about you at all. They don't care about Aaron Rogers and what he's doing. But clearly, it is deeply important to Aaron Rogers and his silly, like, what happened? That was so long ago. That was like four years ago when I was saying that Brian Guttenkuntz was an incompetent and that no one would come to Green Bay if it weren't for me. Did that, I don't remember who said those things. I mean, what was that reaction you just had?

What was the reaction you just had? What was that sound you just made? Yeah, but why did you make that sound? Oh, that name was a little dangerous. What name? Let's move on. Let me do my brankable. Let's move on.

Still can't get over, I mean, and Dan, trying to make us feel sympathy for Terry Rose here. I would have had him out as Hannibal Lecter. I don't even know what in the hell you're even talking about. But Dan, that's exactly right. 35 years, the Green Bay Packers have never had. And Jordan loves pretty good, too. But even if we leave him out, for about 35 years, the Green Bay Packers never have

worse than the second or third best quarterback in the QB League. Brett Farrv hands it off to Aaron Rogers, two Super Bowls, the exact same number of Lombardies as Trent Dilfer and Joe Flacco delivered to Charm City. Underwhelming stuff, but I did say in 2010, in October of 2010, into a microphone, anybody who would listen, I said, Aaron Rogers will go down as the greatest quarterback of all time. This is before he won a Super Bowl or anything. That didn't end up happening. He still may be the most gifted. He still may, even with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, I still think for quarterback, and he's the most gifted guy I've seen. Don Lebertard.

If all the rain drops for lemon drops and gun drops. Oh, what a rain that would be. Stugats. Standing outside with my mouth open wide. If all the rain drops were lemon drops and gum drops. Oh, what a rain that would be. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stoogads. It leads me to this with the World Series about the start and the spectacular performance of Otani last week.

How close are we to seeing right now the four goats of the four major sports? I'm not talking about that they're in their primes right now, but we are witnessing in real time. Otani's the greatest baseball player in the history of people, right? Mahomes, probably. Okay, I'm throwing something out. He's got a shoehorned Sidney from. He's got a shoehorned in, the guy who's not doing it.

I like it. Tom Brady's still alive, right? Just making sure. I wears my shoehorn because I'm going to smack Mike with it. Yeah, that's right. I'm going to shoehorn in the greatest player of the millennium. Is that wild to shoehorn in, the guy who saved hockey, and would definitely dominate 80s hockey

in a way that Wayne Gretzky, if you traded him to right now, would be not a Hammondager, but he would say he'd be Adam Oates. He would not be the star or a lot. Gretzky, you know, no, Gretzky would be a haminegger? I did not say he would be a ham and egger. It's an immediate walkback. Not my words. Not my words. I said he wouldn't be a ham and ager.

I said he would be more like Adam Oates is what I said. So Adam Oates is a Hall of Famer, I believe. He was scored a lot. Do you think Wayne Gretzky? would be a dominant force in Maynambanager. What does that mean? It's a jobber. Whatever.

But I didn't say it, Dan. I said he's not, he wouldn't be a ham and aager. I said he'd be Adam Oates, who was an all-star. Beautiful eyes. Oates had beautiful eyes. Right now, you are being wildly disrespectful. The eyelashes for me. By the way, who's your basketball goal who's playing right now?

Is it Wembeñama? Yokage. No, well, no, it would be, I'm just, I'm floating. a thought how close we're getting. LeBron is the 1A, right? LeBron is the 1A in the NBA. Michael Jordan's still? I mean, I don't know if you want.

Michael Jordan is number one. The 1A is LeBron. So we're pretty close in the NBA. We're very close in pro football. If Patrick Mahomes would have beaten the Eagles last six months ago, it would be settled. Hashi's the best of all time. And Otani is the best.

Now, statistically, Mahomes, before 30, is better than any of them. That's not, there's no. argument on that like but you're what you're saying of all of them the most impressive the most impressive is otani like yeah like that it's we are watching in real time the greatest baseball player there's ever been for the record wayne gretzky did play during the time of adam oates and was not adam oates that's unbelievable that's unbelievable gretsky made his hay statistically the bulk of it, from 1980 to 1985, when it was the breeziest time ever, you didn't have to know how to skate to score 40 goals a year.

It was, I mean, there, Ron Duques scored 40 goals. What you're saying is blasphemous and infuriating. What you're saying is blasphemy of the highest order. You can't come on public airwaves, expect to be taken seriously with Wayne Gretzky would have been Adam Oates in the age of Adamotes when he played with Adam. Boats. Wayne Gretzky was not the best player in the NHL by the end of the 80s. Mario Lemieux clearly was a superior talent to Gretzky. He was in a great situation. He was a dominant force. He was a points-making machine in the right spot there. The greatest point guard you could have

surrounded by a gaggle of stars. His power play included Mark Messier, Glenn Anderson, and Paul Coffey. Like I say, I would have scored 30 or 40 goals surrounded by those guys on the power play. believable what he's going to the great one. And goalies patted up like they were going to go ride a dirt bike rather than stand between the pipes and take 100 mile an hour sloppers. I mean, it's not comparable. We're from a swamp. We just started following hockey three years ago.

We sharpen our skates with sawgrass, but you make no sense to me. Roy is just shaking his head and disgust. He's disgusted at you. Imperfect. Imperfect way to do this. But I think it's, you can do a lot worse. Do the cross-generational trade. trade Wayne Gretzky to now and Sidney Crosby back to 1982.

Who do you think wins out? Who do you think performs better if you flip the generation? Sidney Crosby would dominate the NHL in a way that is hard for me to really fathom. Roy, this is the player you hate, Roy, you hate this player across attorneys. You're going to chase Sidney Crosby through heaven one day, shaking a hockey stick at him You got him going to heaven. You hate, Roy. Listen to what this man is saying,

that Sidney Crosby is miles and leaps better than Wayne Gretzky ever was. All right, man, let's not get crazy about leaps and bounds. But he's better. Yes. Go ahead, Roy. Hamm and Eager. This is a clear Pittsburgh bias coming out of, what's the day damage check today.

Dave, this is exactly why Cliff Booth is the number one draft pick because he would just nod along as you said this. take. I also need everyone to really enunciate when you say ham and Eggers. It's a horrible bosses, too, type situation like Nickkirtdale

dot com. Yeah, we're good. Yeah. Well, when the Dodgers take the field for the World Series, you'll notice the most important accent mark over a name going. That's right. That's right. That's right. Damashek, you're making me uncomfortable. You missed

Amin protected all of us in that moment with great grace by just doing Brian Gumbull and saying let's move on. But also, Tony doesn't understand something you've done here because you keep saying Ham and Eager, we keep responding as if it's the greatest of insults. And Tony slow down. Need you to, it's like

a stop sign. You've got to slow the way down. Look to your left. No California stops there, buddy. You can't just roll through it. Give me a breath in between and. And Eager. And Eager. I hear you, but you know, you remind me of something with that. You know, it's vexed me for many moons now. Why, if you want to insult somebody's sense of humor,

you say they're corny or they're hammy, or cheesy, or cheesy. You could say, man, any of those, you're cheesy, corny, hammy. These are insult. Okay, but you're, yeah, but wait, wait, but hack is one thing. Those three. Okay. Those three food stuffs, each of them, delicious. What's an insult about being cheesy? I like, I like, I like, I like, I like my food's cheesy. Damage check, look. Tony, every time you've called him this, Tony has reacted as, I like ham. I like eggs. With my people, this is delicious.

But why are you insulting? What does the insult even mean? I see the confusion on Tony's face. Yeah, you're right. I'm guilty of exactly. I'm bitten by my own snake here because that's what I'm attacking. I like corn, but I wouldn't want to be called corny. I think we need to figure out what the actual bad food is and use that as the insult.

I mean, what is the universally... You insulted Gretzky with what you said. Animotes! Wayne Gretzky is artichokey. Like, you know what I mean? You know, artichokes that are having a... They get a bad raps of love to... When we were growing up, there were foods that we knew from Loonitunes and everywhere else.

These are the bad foods, right? You got Brussels, broccoli. You got broccoli, artichokes. Don't forget cauliflower. And lima beans, right? And then all of a sudden, like, I don't know, do genetic engineering or something. Now these are like the hot items. Ooh, let me get the Bracolini and let me get the Brussels sprouts.

I'm like, where did you guys grow up? And then I realized someone told me, no, they actually genetically engineered brussels to taste better. The human palate changes everything. Is that true? Yeah. Well, they also done remarkable work with cauliflower, you know, at the turn of the millennium, that also, yeah, I don't know what happened. They suddenly figured out new tricks with the Brussels sprout and cauliflower got in. they started mashing it and all of that.

I also am happy that we happen to live on the big blue marble in a window in which somebody came along and said, hey, dark chocolate's good, salt and stuff is good. Let's put some sea salt on the dark chocolate. But here's the thing is we talk about corn and Brussels sprouts and everything else. And now every menu that you, every restaurant you sit down, the menu will feature Brussels sprouts, might have some mashed cauliflower, and those are fine with me. But why? in our overly indulgent society, do we keep stuffing, delicious, delicious stuffing reserved for just

one day a year? Why don't we have stuffing on all the menus? Stuffing is divine, more stuffing. That's my order of the day. As a veteran of many media meals at many NBA arenas around the country, sometimes they run out of stuff and they're like, you know what, we're having turkey night and they've got the stuffing and everyone. It was like, oh my God, it's on Thanksgiving. I'm like, shut up. I like this. I like me being able to eat like it's Thanksgiving in March. I just went to a diner a few days ago, and I saw on the menu the greatest order you can make at a diner,

hot turkey sandwich. Now, do yourself this favor. Say, replace the mashed potatoes with fries, but put the gravy on the fries, and I'll check in with you once I get back down from Cloud 9. If you want to be cornered for 40 minutes by Dave Damashek to only hear about Mike Tom. Zach. He will be at the Flanagan's

on Thursday. Our event presented by Miller Light, you can just say Bubby Brister and he will talk to you straight for 90 minutes at the Flanagan's in Kendall presented by Miller Light. You won't watch a second of the game. You will try to get away thinking that it was just

small talk and he'll say, and another thing. And ham and egg trapped. That's at the Kendall Drive in Southwest 127th Avenue, Flanagan's Thursday, October 30th. $1,500 costume contest. Dave, what are you joining, dressing up as? Jesus.

Chris. Chris. You okay? Chris, what happened there? What happened? Explain what happened. I lost my breath a little. You were just starting.

It's contagious? You were trying to do a promo for the watch party. Okay. So, yes, Mike Ryan has it right. Okay, we're going to have a block party. And Dave Damashek, if you get near him and you say anything about Mike Webster, you will be there until Sunday hearing stories, old Steeler stories. If that's what you want, somebody in your life just breathing a hot stealer breath at you,

talking about Bubby Brister and Jack Ham. I don't know which year we could go to. There, look Roy brought it all the way, full circle. Ham and eggs, it will be. All number 59. Tony, we should have delicious. Damn and eggs, by the way, is a balanced breakfast of the Cuban diet, right? You got a little bit of ham, you put it in the eggs,

croquetica, you get a pastelito, you get a totad, you get a coffee with leech. All of a sudden all that stuff gets together, right in your stomach. No, that's Tony. Tony, I appreciate the support, but that's old news in my book. Dave, I don't think you do. You don't appreciate it. Dave, you've never had a croquetto. I don't think you can appreciate the support

until you have a croquetta. You're going to have what comes down there. Well, I've had, you know what, I had it in the Dan Levitard Studios, as a matter of fact, on my last visit. It was delicious. But I'm no, I'm no stranger to to the delights of Cuban cuisine. But yes, ham more broadly, this might be a hot take for you guys. I don't know if you're ready for it.

Ham might be the best breakfast meat. If you, ham, oh, we had ham last night for at the holidays. Like, oh, yeah, there's some leftovers in the fridge. I know everybody does this with turkey. Get that ham out there. Slice off, chip some off there, drop it into a pan. You can thank me when you get down from Cloud 9. If you want your rib rolls to go cold, just say Tom Barrasso around Dave Damashek,

and he will spit all over them for 45 minutes. Did you say Tom Barras? No, he could do the same thing with the penguins. No, I thought this was just a stealer affliction. Silly, silly, Dan. Tom Barrassa was shook when the rats were cascating. They threw so many rats at him. All I think of him is him hiding in the net

because Panther fans were throwing rats at you the last time you weren't any good at hockey. Great goalie fight in that series, too. Oh, people on the banks of the Three Rivers are still raw about Tom Barrasso letting in two, not one, but two terrible goals. He was hiding in the net from people throwing rats at him. He's a coward for eternity. Hold on. That was very sad. That was a terrible day for the, a terrible window for the NHL because for some reason, the NHL decided, hey, all these talent deficient teams, let's try

to close the gap a little bit against our high end stars and let them clutch and grab through the neutral zone. You lost the Panthers with Lemieux and Yager. It was, it was, it was, it was, it Because Marasa was hiding in the net. It was very sad. Believe me, I'm not still fully over it. I mean, the NHL lost, our eyeballs lost out with that one. The Florida Panthers went to play in the Stanley Cup. Brian screwed and took out Lemieux and Yager.

Lindros on his way and the fame to Adam Oates. We could have had, don't you understand, you could have had the greatest player of the century, Mario Lemieux and all of his pals out there against the Colorado. Aureto Avalanche, the new stars of the NHL, Joe Sackic and otherwise, that would have been a showdown for the ages. Instead, we got the Panthers sort of stealing the credibility of the sport and almost literally it's not the Panthers fault. It's the New Jersey devil's fault. They just adopted that talent-free style of play clutching and grabbing that just about killed the sport. Thank goodness then that Sidney Crosby made the scene in the early parts of this century. And that brings us to today where Roy

is still flush with emotions, having seen what 87 looks like up close. Dominant is what he looks like. I've seen him up close before many times. It's just game nine on the regular season. I mean, he delivered. I literally joked around, say, hey, say Tom Barroso, and he won't stop talking to you, and that's exactly what he did. So Football America goes up in what, two hours, it's the fourth hour of the show today,

and it is on Fridays, every Friday and Monday. Thank you, Damashak. Wait, I want to just confirm one thing. Can we talk about the time when the seventh game of the Stanley Cup finals was held hostage by terrorists and a security guard from a broken marriage with his children in the stadium had to save the day? You remember that one? Do I remember it? I mean, the thing that really, I don't understand, Pittsburgh is right there on the edge. It is the gateway from the rugged northeast into the more pleasant Midwestern vibes.

it sits right there on the edge of all of that. And yet Hollywood targets Pittsburgh and its teams over and over and over again. I mentioned it the last time we talked and it's going to come up again. Heaven can wait. Who does Warren Beatty beat in that Super Bowl and overtime? Goodbye. The Pittsburgh Steeler. No, fake him down.

Black Sunday is at the Super Bowl in Miami. Get out of here. That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. Damash.

That's enough. That's enough. Him down. Okay, Damashek, before you leave. The natural. Who does Roy Hobbes hit? Luke Robiton. I still wanted to ask him to...

Then those shards of glass start falling down. He's isn't getting mobbed. But out in the outfield, those shards of glass are dangerous, and they're falling down on who? Pittsburgh Pirates outfielders. What did Pittsburgh do to you, show business? It can be all yours at the Flanagan's and Kendall, presented by Miller Life.

Ask him about heaven can wait at the block party. And you will stay there throughout the remainder of the football season with this guy blowing nacho breath in your face talking about a 1976 movie, Heaven Can Wait. Ham breath. Say Jason Bay around him and see if you didn't get him to be quiet for 30 seconds. Say the delicious ham treat that you had when you were down here. Say the word.

Say the breakfast word that you had when you were here. Say it. Croqueta. Better. Football America. in about an hour. Thank you, Damashek. Go Dolphins.