The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: High Shticking

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

Sam Morril, our Commissioner of Fandom and Senior Knicks Correspondent, is here to explain how he plans to keep Isaiah Hartenstein in New York with a tour of the city, the Pacers thinking they're tough guys, and why he wants Draymond Green to let him enjoy love. Then, Dan absurdly wants a Panthers Game 7, Roy remains confident despite the Game 5 loss, Jeremy learned hockey just by sitting next to Roy, and Chris thinks Paul Maurice was sexy. An interesting night on the ice... Plus, it's time to name the show penalties that get our crew sent to the Penalty Box. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it.

And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. I really do think that it would be Billy's anarchist dream for Metal Arc to pay him as a consultant. And then at the end of his findings, he comes to me with a report and he says with a giant smile on his face, Dan, your problems throughout your company,

they're all me. I've discovered the problem, they are all me. But the good news, I have the solution. No one better equipped to solve the Billy problem than Billy. Sam Morell is with us. This is early for him. He's a late night comic.

He lives a big, loud life at night and he's got more of those t-shirts than any human being I know. There it is, the Isaiah, Die Hard. The Isaiah Hardenstein, Die Hard t-shirt. Look at him.

He's feeling himself today. I was surprised you weren't at the game yesterday I should tell the people he's our senior Knicks correspondent. He's the commissioner of fandom He's got shows coming up in Lexington in Southern, California in Atlantic City, Rochester He'll be in Miami and same time tomorrow is his Netflix special what happened? I thought for sure you would be there soaring behind your team last night. If there's a game seven, I'll be there, man. I get too nervous, man. I'm not fun to watch these games with.

I'm panicking, I'm a wreck. Thank God they blew that one out in the second half. But yeah, I'm not fun to watch these with. I don't want to be there. Do you want a game seven? Of course not. I said if there is one, I'll be there, and I'll to be there but do you want to game seven of course not as it if there is one i'll be there and i'll definitely be there in the next round but uh... i was pretty nervous yesterday i gotta be honest

sam you haven't been nervous throughout this you've told me at every turn that you you could you think you can beat boston what happened well i forgot that jaylen brunson is like king henry the fifth and he doesn't need to have his full force. He can be outnumbered and he can still have a depleted army and win the war. Sam, I thought the same thing after game three, they squandered an opportunity game three to win that game on the road, go up three.

Oh, it came back to two. I was very nervous. Had you thought the same thing that Jalen Brunson was like King Henry? Well, that too. Yes. Yes. Yeah. But I was very nervous. You thought the same thing that Jalen Brunson was like King Henry? Well that too, yes. Yes. Yeah, but I was nervous. Nick fans were nervous last night, you know? We were nervous.

Yeah. I mean, we saw that Siakam finally started to play well with the absence of OG on Inobi. OG was shutting his ass down. OG is so essential. I mean, we're down a lot of players right now. This is nerve wracking for us. I think we're down a lot of players right now. This is nerve-racking for us. I think we're clearly the better team. I think even if you're a reasonable Pacers fan you realize that Knicks are the better team. We're playing down four key players. It's crazy.

So that's what your answer would be right when I ask you well how did your confidence become something so shaky that in the second round it could be tested by a six seed? It's just the injuries right that in the second round it could be tested by a six seed. It's just the injuries, right? Just the injuries, of course. I think losing OG on Inobi was a big blow because we had to play and kudos tips for adjusting. He went with the small ball lineup and it worked out starting Deuce yesterday.

So I liked it. And Precious gave us great minutes. And same, shout out Alec Burks for being, you know, his number was called. I know a lot of Knicks fans were nervous with Alec Burks. Not me. He's been ballin', dude. Yep, I told Dan, that guy can give you 20 points on any given night, and he's done it.

He's done it twice. I mean, Dan, your thoughts? Apologize, Alec Burks. He hadn't given you 20 points since February. 19 a game, the last two. The shirt, take me for the audio audience, Sam, just take me on a tour of the shirt you're presently wearing. Isaiah Hardenstein, Die Hard with a Vengeance.

Yeah, you know, I've been a big Hardenstein supporter for a long time. You know, Knicks fans, we believe in our players and we don't like when major media people trash them And that only made me a bigger Hardenstein fan seeing how he didn't become shaken. He became He became powerful. He became a monster on the glass and you saw it last night his defense has been the anchor for us He's been amazing and 12 offensive boards last night. This guy is We need him next year. I hope he stays in Nick. He's been amazing and 12 offensive boards last night. This guy is we need him next year. I hope he stays in Nick.

He's been incredible. What do you think of the Pacers coming out thinking? They're a bunch of tough guys at the Mecca last night. I got a little chippy there, Sam. I mean going to Dante just made me think of like Jamie Kennedy and Malibu's most wanted but like tough. You know what I mean? Like I love that kid.

I think he's like wanted, but like tough. You know what I mean? Like, I love that kid. I think he's like, he's just a badass. I love him. Yeah, man, it was a mix between that and like rabbit and eight mile, you know? Like this dude is, I believe in Dante. I think he's got that like 90s Knicks kind of edge to him. So does Josh Hart.

We're a lot of tough players and and look when Pacers fans are complaining like Knicks fans you want a tough series but you know you complain about fouls I don't care if it's physical you just gotta blow the whistle. It's hilarious that Pacers, I said Bill Simmons post like oh the Knicks and Scott Foster the Pacers were getting every call in the first half it was comical I thought and they were getting every call in game three game four didn't matter because they beat our ass but game three and game five game three they gave him one back for what they thought they gave us in game one

and then last night they were getting every whistle we just happen to out play them I'm curious how it is that you're too nervous for a game five, but you'll be there for a game seven. Cause it's a must win. How do your nerves end up playing out? Did you really not go yesterday because you thought it would be too much for your anxiety

and you don't like how you behave? I usually, if I don't go, I usually have people over and I need to be alone. So you have the people over and they do what with you being this way? They know you well enough to know it's okay that he's screaming at the television? Yeah, yeah, they like it.

I have enough crazy people in my group that they go nuts too. Did you ask Sam if he wanted a game seven? No one wants a game seven when you're up three two. That's an odd question. No, no, here's why I would tell you, like maybe not fans, but if you're telling me. You want it.

Yes, I want it for a number of different reasons. Pacers want a game seven. Yes. Here's my question when you say that it's odd though, and I understand why you would say it. If you're confident in your team, if you tell me again and again that Mecca's the hardest place to play

and it's the greatest sound and I wanna remember something forever and you're better than the other team, why not one game for everything? You get to watch it, you get to be there, you get to remember this series forever when Larry Johnson is making a four pointer. I'll remember this series forever when Larry Johnson is making a four pointer. I'll remember this series forever regardless. I want to end this thing in Indiana.

You will not. Dan, Jalen Brunson got hurt. He came back in the second half. I'll remember this series forever. Yeah. Also, Dan, I didn't appreciate your tone with the mech is the hardest place to play. It is the hardest place to play. Yes. And the fans are the best. Are we going to talk about Draymond's ridiculous unlikeability on TNT?

Well, let's play this sound for Sam and the audience. Why does Knicks fans think I hate the Knicks though? Why do they? Because you did say you didn't like New York. No, that's a lie. I thought you said. I'm asking. I told the truth about the team.

And the truth about the team is, it's a fluke. That's why they don't like you. That's why. You're saying that they're good season, The truth about the team and the truth about the team was it's a fluke Season that they've had last in the last whatever you said is a fluke this year is what you said Here's what I said I said this team they're winning right now and it could be I think it's a setup like the Atlanta Hawks in 2021 and if you remember back to maybe 2016-17 the Portland Trail Blazers paid all of those guys Because they had that one good year and then they got jammed up and I think This New York Knicks team could be a setup to get jammed up. Is that what you're objecting to or something else? If you're comparing Alan Crab and Al Farouk Aminu to OG Ananoby and all these other guys,

you're out of your mind. Nick's a fluke, we're down four rotation players, including Julius Randall, an all-MBA guy, OG Ananoby, a defensive beast. You remember defense, Dreymon, you used to play it before you went straight for the headlock, remember? You wanna talk about a fluke, you being in the Hall of Fame is a fluke, Dreymon, you used to play it before you went straight for the headlock, remember? You want to talk about a fluke? You being in the Hall of Fame is a fluke, Dreymon.

If you aren't drafted to the Warriors, not only are you not in the Hall of Fame, you might be in a psych ward right now or best case playing in Europe. Steph saving your career is a fluke. No one else would be this patient with you. No other star. So maybe instead of trying to rain our parade and the first joy we've had in years, let us enjoy it the way the rest of TNT, like Kenny Smith is letting us enjoy it.

I love when you get pissed off. Well, Draymond's not here, you know that right Sam, that was just a video. No, he's directing. I'm talking into the camera. Right. Atta boy. A genuine question though,

when it comes to this Knicks group, like if there are no moves made and you have this core moving forward for the next five, six, seven years, this is the group. What do we think is the higher likelihood that this group wins a championship or that they never get back to the conference finals again? Because I kind of think it's probably the latter given the people who were out in the East this year. I think first of all, if you think Trey Young has the leadership or the talent of Jalen Brunson, you don't watch basketball. Secondly, we are missing, do you not hear what I'm saying? We're missing four key players and we're still doing this well. So I think you have to look at what

our potential is. I think what you saw in January when Randall and OG and all the guys were just banging, we were a team that beats you up and wears you down. And we have to change our identity I think what you saw in January when Randall and OG and all the guys were just banging we were a team that beats you up and wears you down and we have to change our identity a little bit to compete. Luckily Tibbs has made adjustments and I think he's made key adjustments starting McBride yesterday and you know having pressures come off the bench for energy. So look I think our ceiling is pretty damn high and maybe we're not done making moves. That's why you stockpile first round picks.

I think there's a couple more moves Leon might make. But to act like we're a fluke and not in a great position, the best position we've been in in 25 years, Draymond, I thought you were like a high IQ basketball guy. I thought that was your whole thing. I respect Draymond Green. I think he is a Hall of Fame player, but you know, you clearly, I don't get the anger at New York. Like, we're just enjoying our team. We're just happy. We're having a good time. Why is everyone being like, well, this is a fluke. This isn't for real. If you saw your friend in love and

he was like, you know, not a cool guy, Maybe he hadn't found a woman in a while. Would you be like, dude, this is bullshit? You, no. No. I might, I might actually. Would you let him enjoy love? It's a fluke. He's screaming at the camera, Draymond, would you let me enjoy love, please?

I am in love, I haven't felt this way about the Knicks this century. Jeremy asked him a question and he was still responding to Draymond Lee. This was real professional work by the professional comedian. I've seen coaches over the years say to themselves, I don't care what the questions are, I'm going to say what I want to say. He did get around to answering Jeremy's question, but he had a little more to slice off for Draymond there.

He pissed you off last night people are pissing you off Sam It's a fluke Yeah, I mean but I'll say this I love when the media counts the Knicks out because I think this is a team that wants to Be counted out. I think they thrive on it. I think it's fuel when you saw siakam Who by the way, has looked meh, he's had a couple games, but talking shit to Jalen Brunson, and Brunson going back, it's a long fucking series. I love that.

I love that Jalen Brunson's like, let us be the humble guys. You guys talk your shit. Tyrese Halliburton talked a lot of shit in Indiana, and he can, but that's not our style. Our style is more like, we're tough, we're going to play ball, and let Tyrese talk a lot of shit because he was pretty quiet last night. Are Sam and Stugat surprised at all that Jalen Brunson already has more playoff points than

Carmelo Anthony? I'm not personally, and no disrespect to Carmelo, but I do think that Jaylen is the best Knicks since the 90s. I just think, I think he's had a pretty big load in his shoulders and he's delivered. He's been incredible. I am surprised by that because no one could see this coming. Like no one, like Carmelo, yeah, that is surprising.

Like Jaylen Brunson in the moment, this is great, but no one could see, at least I couldn't see, that Jalen Brunson would arrive at a place where he has more playoff points than Carmelo. It's a fluke. I mean, how do you not look at Jalen Brunson and just love this guy? How do you not look at the whole team and love this team? They play, they all were guys,

they remind me a little bit of Detroit in 2004. a lot of guys who people kind of gave up on like Rashid Wallace you know Chauncey Billups Rip Hamilton guys that kind of didn't get their due Ben Wallace those types of players how do you not like this team? Stugats has a revised list of top five Knicks of all time based on yesterday's proceedings I guess number five or all I have a ton of them all right you've got a lot of outside looking in just some yeah all right go ahead Dave DeBusha Walt Clyde Frazier, Patrick Ewing, Nicotine, Josh Hart, Jalen Brunson. You're just naming Nick. Number five.

Nicotine has fallen out of the top five. It was number one. That was a week ago. Today's today. Number five. Alec Burks. Number four. Deuce McBride. Three. Dante Di Vicenzo. Two. Isaiah Hartenstein. One. The Mecca. Sam,

how do you feel about that list? I love Isaiah Hartenstein. You know I love these guys, so I'm fine with it. Thank you. I think whatever it takes, tampering-wise, I will bring Hardenstein back. Maybe a tour of New York, something special to make him believe that this is the greatest city in the world. I hope we're able to keep him in OG. You know that's how I feel.

So I think they're both key going forward and keyed our defensive identity, which is what Knicks fans want. They want a defensive team always. Sam, I know Brunson's been great in this series, but if the Knicks win the series, the series MVP should go to the Mecca, right? I think, look, it's a team game, man.

And I love what Hardenstein said about the Knicks fans. Where he, after game four and the Knicks got crushed, he was like, we don't deserve the amount of support they give us if this is how we're gonna play. So I think they're aware of how great the Mecca is and how great the fans are. And I thought that was like a very, very smart thing for Isaiah to say.

I think Josh Hart said something similar. So they know that it's an amazing place to play. There's some other great arenas in basketball, but I don't think anything touches MSG. It's a fluke. Put it on the poll at LeBretard Show. Do you think the Knicks will be able to keep Hartnestein with a tour of New York?

I don't know how I do things, man. I got great restaurants lined up, whatever he needs. It's likely gonna come down to money. I'm sorry, I didn't realize it was you giving the personal tour, I thought it was one of those talk tours. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be a big off season, we're gonna have fun. He's gonna be like, how could I leave this city?

Catch his deli, this is amazing. They don't have this in Charlotte, whoever tries to court me, I don't have this in charlotte whoever tries to court me i don't know we're gonna keep him it's gonna be great sam if there is indeed a game seven that no nick fam wants to see but if there is one on sunday uh i would like to come i'd like to sit courtside with you and i am bringing along a good friend of mine if you're interested okay adam adam schafter me you schafter courtside at a Knicks game how do we get it done? But you have to wait a minute you have to get him to get you now two tickets or does Schafter have his own ticket? These are crazy tickets these are

not easy to get. Listen it's on Dan me you and Schafter what do you think? I think I'm going with Chrissy D on Sunday if there's a game seven, but we'll see. He's our senior Knicks correspondent. He's too scared and nervous to go see a game five. He's Sam Morrell. You understand there's no choice in a game seven. Game five, I'm like, I can't. There's some egos I can't look at.

I go f***ing nuts. So, but game seven is do or die. So there's a game seven, but man, I'm worried. I'm worried mostly about OG's health. Cause I do know we need him to make this Boston series even interesting. Cause what's tough is having all these injuries in a year where I do think Boston is beatable and we've had so much bad injury luck. Obviously Boston's a great team.

But I do think anything could happen in the playoffs as we've seen with your Miami Heat team beating them. Miami played a tough style basketball. I think this Knicks team has like a Knicks culture and I think they could make it interesting, but it's gonna be tough if we keep having these injuries. He's the commissioner of fandom. He's our senior Knicks correspondent.

He's got shows coming up in Lexington and Southern California, Atlantic City, Rochester, and here in Miami. And I will tell you again, the Netflix special, it's excellent as is all of his work. Same time tomorrow. Thank you, Sam. Thank you guys.

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There's no safe like SimpliSafe. Don Leventhal. All these high-paid analysts. I don't want to mention names. TNT, ESPM, you know, oh yeah, they are dead. They cannot, they are not going to make it, you know. Even if they win in, if they lose in Miami. I need to calm you down.

That's right. If they lose in Miami, they don't get a chance in Boston. Oh, they are going to have their ass, you know, what, in Boston, you know. Stugats. They were wrong. They were, are they going to lose their job? No. Are they going to get their ass you know what in Boston you know. Stugats. They were wrong. They were are they going to lose a job? No. Are they going to get a cutting pay? No.

What are they going to do? Keep predicting what is the obvious. They are going to say oh the nuggets are going to win. Oh Denver the altitude. And you know what? The heat are going to win it all. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugarts. ["The Boston Bruins' Cornered Theme"] Roy, I don't know how you feel today.

The Panthers had the Boston Bruins cornered. You wanna end that at home. I know you've been afraid at no point during this series, but your general feeling. Are you gonna ask Roy if he wants a game seven? Okay, you guys are making at no point during this series, but your general feeling. Are you gonna ask Roy if he wants a game seven? Okay, you guys are making fun of me for this, but I thought game sevens at home are fun and the greatest thing.

And all of the- When you're losing the series. Yes. And you force it. If you're winning and you choke to get to game seven, not as fun. Rare is the team up three two that wants to force a game seven.

Understood, but you guys are always telling me how confident you are and how hard it is to play in New York, and you don't have real confidence about it if you're terrified of a game 7 and simply don't want it under any circumstances. But you were asking Roy the Panthers, Adam Cornered, had it done, you want to get it done at home, you don't want to go back to Boston. I feel like Roy is still confident. I can't believe I'm saying this. I would love a game seven at home and I don't want that series to end in Boston. I want it brought back here and I want maximum stakes on everybody.

I would like this series to end in Boston, Dan. I would like them to go to the Eastern Conference Final and face either the Rangers or the Hurricanes, most likely the Rangers. But you're not rattled, you're good. I'm fine. Really? Yes.

My favorite part of last night's game, other than that we lost, like that part sucked, but Maurice yelling at the team to inspire, and we get a goal right after. So 11 seconds after that time. We have the video of, I think it's B-roll, where we can just see him laying into the team. There's a fan longing for him,

and that's the way I look at Paul Maurice. Longing for Paul Maurice just by watching him Just coach just be a coach. He was just laying into the team and I see this clip and then the fan Oh my god, it's me. It's the way I would look at him You just think that it's sexy sexy your claim right here. You can see the look of the guy in the background Look at the way he's looking at Maurice there. That's the way I look at him. I love him. And look, he's telling his friend,

he's like, he's yelling at him. You're just gazing at him, longing. We have an ISO of just the look. I love this guy. Because his veins are in his neck bulging. Hockey coach. I'm afraid that the one Hall of Famer that has joined us today is snoring in the back next to Jeremy.

Mike Ryan came running in today to executive produce again. He's pushed Chris out of the chair in order for all of us to celebrate the one true Hall of Famer who is here. Bernie, the Heat mascot, has arrived and we need to vote him into the Hall of Fame. Billy has yelled and screamed at the mascot Hall of Fame executive committee because he thinks it's communist. Well, they just don't respect your vote. I mean, you can vote for Bernie, you can vote for them to get into the Hall of Fame, but here's the thing. They don't care about your votes. They're just going to do whatever they want. They proved that with Billy the Marlin and it's a sham. But don't care about your votes. They're just gonna do whatever they want. They proved that with Billy the Marlin and it's a sham.

But I hope you guys get in, but I- What do you mean you guys? We've got Bernie is going to make the Hall of Fame. Well, I mean, there's a big class. Multiple people get in every year. Who are the others in the class and do you think they rise to the level? We said before that Florida, the state of Florida

has never had a mascot in the Hall of Fame. Billy the Marlin was voted in by the fans and then the Hall of Fame didn't let him in for some reason. We gotta talk to somebody to get some questions answered. Lucy, you love mascots. You told me you were very excited to have Bernie in today. Look, I'm looking at the mascot Hall of Fame right now

and Little Red for Nebraska made it, and he's a freak, so I don't trust the voting. Oh, wow. All right, let's get someone on to answer some questions. From the Hall of Fame, yes. Yes, to put them under the interrogation lights and ask them why. I wanna ask them the question,

Billy, if you ask for fan vote and then don't respect it, what do you do? Well, it's just one third of the voting process. The committee gets in, and then I guess if they get in, they get votes. It's a loaded class this year. Big Al is there. The University of Alabama.

The Leprechaun from Notre Dame is there. Mrs. Mett is there. I wonder if Mr. Mett wants Mrs. Mett in the Hall of Fame or not. Or if Mr. Mett just wants to have the Hall of Fame be Mr. Mett's thing. Wait a minute, that is loaded. You just gave two that I think that-

New Jersey Devil is there. Purdue Pete. Orbit. Purdue Pete? Rosie Red, Talon, Jackson DeVille, Lucille. Lucy, what is your problem with Purdue Pete? What is it my problem with Purdue Pete? Have you seen that freak? Muscular.

He is like if death were a mascot, he's terrifying. Put it on the poll please, Juju, is Purdue Pete like if death were a mascot, he's terrifying. Put it on the poll please, Juju. Is Purdue Pete like if death were a mascot? None of these mascots have ever been arrested, am I right? Sebastian is truly Miami. Fist me. Purdue Pete has been arrested.

He got arrested like two years ago. Really? Really? At like a McDonald's or something, I'm not even joking. For murder? Not for murder. Oh. What is the backstory please on Perdue Pete being arrested because I did not have Chris Cody getting that

so immediately wrong. Alleged battery and disorderly conduct at a McDonald's. All the more. You know what? I sit corrected. Okay, you know what? All right Perdue Pete, do it in a game. Sebastian did it during a game. Sebastian did it during a game.

He did it during a big game. He got arrested on the road. He got arrested. Let's go, not buying a burger, Purdue Pete. Well, it was assault, they said, yeah. Well, he didn't get arrested for buying a burger. I know that, Metal Art Consultant Billy Gill. Was he in costume?

I mean. The reason that both of these mascots sitting with us deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, they invented stuff. Bernie invented the hip thrust. Oh yeah. You know, the, huh. Did he invent that? Please don't do that to me.

Bernie, did you invent the hip thrust? Very uncomfortable. Don't ever do that again. No, please don't do that. He'd be like, that thing, why? I don't have a thing. Let Bernie do it. Let Bernie do it.

You do have a, you have a, you know. This is awkward. And he, what he did, the side, like splitting his mouth thing, who else does that? Dennis! I think that might actually be something that Sebastian the Ibis did indeed invent. I don't know if Bernie invented it.

No, he did. Look it up. Well, you were wrong about the arrest thing, though. Your mascot information. Should I do it again? Is not exceptional. You know what? I would like, now that you've mentioned it, for you to do it the remainder of the segment. Oh come on man! We only have 18 minutes left. Go ahead and stand up and hold the

microphone to you and go ahead and do that while I get Roy's hockey analysis that makes Bernie snore. You don't have any concerns. You have said that a number of different times and ways, but I was not expecting that. I know the hardest game to get against tough teams is the desperate one that will end their season. But given the way the last three games looked for Florida, I was genuinely surprised by that result.

Well, the Bruins limited the Panthers' shots, especially in the first period. For the first half of this game, it was pretty much all Bruins, and the Panthers really could not control the puck. I mean, they were giving the puck away. There were two transition opportunities on their power play that went back for breakaways. It just wasn't very good. I mean, Carter Verheggie didn't have a good game. Matt DeGauchet, then didn't. The power play was bad.

Our power play was bad. We've looked great on the power play, and last night was rough. Give Swamin some credit, though, Roy. He was great last night. Yes, yes. He was great last night. Bob was also good.

But yeah, I mean, the Panthers played a way out of that game. Reinhardt scored a goal. How about score more than one goal? Yes. Sam Reinhardt was good. Plenty of opportunities. No, Sam Reinhardt was not great. There were plenty of opportunities there at the end of the game to score more goals, and Sam Reinhardt was good. No, Sam Reinhardt was not great. There were plenty of opportunities there

at the end of the game to score more goals, and Sam Reinhardt was just missing them. No, Sam Reinhardt was good on both sides of the park. So, and Alexander Balkow was good defensively. He missed one late. He had a big one, a chance late with the net open. To Billy's point, he had eight shots, I mean. Well, let me explore.

But Paul Maurice screams at him and says, score more goals, right now. Well, he did. People are giving Paul Maurice a lot of credit for the game before that the Panthers scored immediately after he gave some sort of pep talk. They scored immediately after as if the guy in a suit on the sideline.

Are they required to wear suits? I've been wondering this because I don't know the rules of hockey, but they're always wearing suits. Are they required to? Because like, what if you could just wear a hoodie? Because it seems a lot more comfortable. John Totorella did not wear a suit this season in Philadelphia.

I think he was the only coach that did that. That's it? There's no rule. They all just, it's an unwritten rule among all of them were gonna wear suits, even though there's not a dress code. I guess so because Totorella was the only person that didn't do it this season. But you're a hockey expert. Wouldn't you know if there were a dress code or not a dress

code? A dress code for coaches in the National Hockey League. There's about to be for basketball coaches. There's going to be again, and there used to be. You're tired, Chris. My legs hurt. You're worn out. Okay. You lasted two and a half minutes doing what Bernie does. This is why Bernie's a Hall of Famer. You lasted two and a half minutes doing what Bernie does. This is why Bernie's a Hall of Famer. You lasted two and a half minutes doing

what Bernie has done for decades. I mean he does it in small increments though. He doesn't do it for five minutes straight. They're not small. What I know of Bernie, nothing about that area is small. What do you know about Bernie? Well I like costumes as you know. I like costumes as you know.

I was surprised to hear Billy Come at the expertise of Roy Bellamy because Jeremy got to watch the game with Roy Bellamy last night And it was like a tutorial you would not know from Roy's Twitter that you could do a lot of learning About hockey by just sitting next to Roy Roy's Twitter often helps me also Honestly because it's it's descriptive of what's actually going on in the game, but last night was incredible for me because I was sitting next to Roy in our MetalArk media seats at the Panthers game,

and he was just through speaking, maybe to himself, I'm not even sure he was really speaking to me, but talking about the game, I felt more locked in and understanding everything about the approach, the rules, than I ever have. And I've been following, obviously, the Panthers for the last several years professionally. Roy made me feel like a more informed hockey fan.

It's why one day he will have a picture and his name on a wall there celebrating his legendary status covering the Panthers since their inception. Right next to Bill Lindsey. Roy's Twitter account is great. Like if the ESPN app goes down and you can't watch the game, you have no idea what's going on,

Roy will like tweet play by play of what's happening in the Panthers game. And it's all fact based. All right, there is a source of contention here. Let's discuss this now. I wanna discuss this because Roy, Roy, yes. Because Stugatz and I, yesterday, we're having a conversation with Roy,

because I would argue that this team of people, our show, is mean to Roy's Twitter account. No. Falsehoods. Roy, is this show, yes or no, you can say sure again if you want, yes or no, this show is mean to your Twitter account. Sure.

I mean, I'm not very happy with how people are displaying. I mean, Magic Johnson of hockey is not exactly what I would respond to in my Twitter account. I mean, I'm telling you the information that you need to know in real time. But it is very fact-based. And I would say it's probably a bit different than what Jeremy is learning sitting next to you. But he's saying that he's also learning

from your Twitter account. Most of the times when you're compared to Magic Johnson, it's a great thing. Not in this situation. Just not Twitter. No. The only spot, really. I've given my opinion during the games as well.

I mean, I guess some of y'all have missed it. It gets lost because your Twitter account turns into essentially a game log. Yeah, yes, yes, exactly. It does get lost within that, yes. Don't change a thing, Roy. I that, yes. Don't change a thing, Roy. I agree with him. Don't change a thing.

There was last year when I was covering the Stanley Cup final, I was trying to support Roy by retweeting everything that he tweeted and his great engagement. So people love it. Yeah, he copied everything I said and posted it under his account, basically. Retweeted.

Yeah, that's not exactly retweeting. that's copying and pasting and posting under your name is not retweeting, it's just treating. Thanks Sebastian. Sebastian gets it. That's Metal Art consultant Billy Gill, ladies and gentlemen, always helping everybody, just retweeting Roy because he loves him so much and wants to be a supportive team. Of course, exactly right. But Sebastian gets it.

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Oh, wow. Oh, no. I'm trying to include you. I'm trying to support my teammates yet again. Not helping. Getting punished. You were actively asking a question to produce dead air, Billy. Not helpful.

No. He can't talk. He's not allowed to talk. How do you know? He'll get fired. I tried to talk to him before the show. Well, man. Why would you try and talk to him? I told you they can't talk. How do you know? He'll get fired. I tried to talk to him before the show. Well, I tried to talk to him.

I told you they can't talk. Hold on a second. So I'm getting kicked out for doing exactly what you did? Outside. Outside. Dead Air. Middle finger. Dead Air does not hurt the show if the show's not on the air, Metal Art Consultant.

It's possible that Bernie and Sebastian have lots of things to say we just don't ask the right questions Bernie Sebastian go sit with Billy in the penalty air it is I've accidentally rewarded him damn Damn it! The inside man got me again. I gave him a gift. He gets to go sit outside, not work, wreck the show, and enjoy the dead air out there with them because the mascots aren't allowed to talk. And it's a maximum asshole move on a show we're doing together. Out Bernie. Oh man. All of you, go sit in the penalty box.

Catch it astray. It's Billy's fault. All three of you, go sit crowded in a crowded penalty box. I also want, by the way, I'd like some imaging. I meant to send this last night to the group. I want some imaging that has a whistle blowing and a being sent to the penalty box. When it's Jeremy, I want two minutes high sh-ticking

and stuff like that. I like that. I like that. I want jokes in the penalty box with these clowns. Dan, I kind of feel like you're being a bad host because first you send them to the penalty box, then you don't tell them where it is or what it is. Bernie was just lost back here.

He thought Billy's seat was the penalty box. Wow. So I think you should was the penalty box. Wow. So I think you should go. Metal lark. What? OK. Oh, no. I am now looking at all penalties in the NHL

to try to find some wordplay that we can have for some. I like high sticking. Yes. You got slashing? I'm not going to lie. Last night, it made me laugh. Any time, and it's juvenile. It's immature.

But any time there's a hooking penalty, I laugh. It's like two minutes for hooking, because I just imagine this defenseman for Boston hooking. But how do we apply that name to someone in our crew when we call a penalty and send someone to the box? You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm searching for. I'm searching for more high-sticking.

Okay? Because that's perfect. Sl for. I'm searching for more high-sticking. Okay? Because that's perfect. Slashing? Yes, but for who? Cross-checking. When you say something unproductive, it could be boring. Okay, so now that works.

For boring. Yeah, that works. I like it. Two minutes for boring. Go to the penalty box, Jerry. Oh no, no. High-sticking. Oh no.

I can't believe you used my own word play against me. What a fun penalty box that looks like. I mean outside of Dan what a blast that must be. No? I feel like they're both Hall of Famers. Maybe it's just my South Florida bias but. Right. And then the fact that Billy the Marlin was ahead of these two like if you think of South Florida mascots These are the two you think of Are they I mean Billy the Marlin is Stanley C. Panther But how about the state of Florida because Dan was making the point that no Mascot in the state of Florida has made it to the mascot Hall of Fame and Dan's larger point

And he's correct is that we should probably have someone from the Hall of Fame on, not the mascots who can't talk. All right, that's a good point, yeah. Speaking of mascot, why was Stanley the Sea Panther last night, in this first period, he was just wearing like a bathing suit with no shirt on. But not just that, he has a six pack. I know, I guess that's why, if you got it, flaunt it. But I was just thinking, this is playoff time.

This is not the middle of the season, it's beach day, so he's in beach, like I need Stanley C. Panther in his normal attire, it's game five here, folks. Well the situation is, it was 96 degrees yesterday. Is that why he did it? Yeah. I don't need jokes with my mascots in the playoffs. When things get a little too intense and testosterone filled,

Lucy or Jess can call, too many men. So all the time. I like it. That's a good one. Too many men. Too many men. Boring, too many men. So all the time. I like it. That's a good one. Too many men. I like that. Too many men. That's a good one.

Boring instead of boarding. We're trying to do word play. We will figure this out off air. High sticking is great. It's probably something that should be, I meant to send that last night and I forgot. Can you guys help me with other Paul Maurice video that we have because I don't know the context Chris Cody

on something that you wanted to show us on not just Paul Maurice being sexy when he yells at people according to you but was his postgame stuff too because you guys have argued that he's giving great postgame now better than most coaches are. Yeah it's basically a stand-up routine he's doing this basically to calm down the fans like he's not worried about it why should I? So let's hear Paul Maurice here, because this person was called by Zaslow the killer of fun. Paul Maurice came here and reinvented what playoff hockey looks like for South Florida

Sturgots. It's honestly been strange to see. It's something that I don't have enough of a working understanding of the sport. And I think very few of us have the expertise to actually understand what the depths of what these people do for a living. But it is truly baffling to me that an organization could go from, we're playing a historic brand of hockey

in the regular season that has no offensive precedent in the league, and when that, this was two years ago, and when that gets into the playoffs, it's going to die at the feet of people who coach and make their team play like Paul Maurice. Then they went and got an assortment of players to play exactly the dirty type of stuff that makes people crazy and they reinvent themselves

as a hockey team that can actually win in the postseason because you have to play differently. I don't understand how Paul Maurice did that. I don't understand the intricacies of it. Well, transition offense doesn't really work in the playoffs. That's the problem. The Panthers offense back then was more on the rush going back the other way. Now it's just about forechecking in board battles. Panthers offense back then was more on the rush going back the other way. Now

it's just about for checking in board battles. But it was just dumping it in. You can carry it in as well so long as you win the puck back if you give the puck in the offensive zone. You get the puck back, you get second chances, you get screens in front. Boston was trapping last night though so I feel like the way they were playing the Panthers you got to just dump it down there. Yeah they were gonna get our goals. They were basically doing what the Panthers have done all season. Roy, you say that matter of factly though,

but you believed in that team two years ago. You thought it was so good at offense that perhaps it could overcome what playoff hockey is, and then they immediately get strangled and swept by the Lightning, and you were confused. So you say it matter of factly now, as if you understand it, but I remember back then you believed that that hockey team was so good at offense that it was going to be able to overcome playoff hockey cliches.

Yeah, well, I believed in that team back then. I believe in this team now. Bernie's wearing a piece and now Lucy's wearing it. Wait a minute. Did you know that Hall of Famer, the Mascot wore a toupee? This is breaking news right here. This is shocking. I cannot believe the worst thing a mascot can do is lose his head, but this is the second worst thing. Strong hairline from Bernie though.

Very strong. Bad look for Sebastian. I had no idea. Wait a minute. Wait, it is a great look for Sebastian. Yep. Sebastian, give me one of these. Put a pause up. Let's see how that looks on you. No, no,, wait a minute. Wait, it is a great look for Sebastian. Yep. Sebastian, give me one of these, put a pause up, let's see how that looks on you.

No, no, don't do it, don't do it, no! He will not do pause up. Look, you thought you were gonna trick him into doing FIU stuff? Rebrand here. I think between the two of you, we can get you into the Hall of Fame there with Bernie's toupee.

I had no idea Bernie wore a toupee that he had a hair implant shocked by that let's play that Paul Marie sound of him this was described as stand-up comedy I believe that's overselling what we're about to hear but let's hear what we what we get from our sexy coach Paul you you definitely woke them up they scored 11 seconds after the the TV time out there what we get from our sexy coach uh... paul you you definitely woke them up they scored eleven seconds after the the tv time out there in the second uh... period uh... what was the message there and and what was your thought on the goalie

interference all can't tell all the exact words of the message off felt that a little fire I wasn't mad at him understood what they were going through just thought they needed some profanity in their life I brought some I don't excel a lot of things in life but me, I might get it done. You see how I did that? That's coaching, man. Well, that's kind of comedy.

I don't know why it is that the average sports fan watches ballerinas on razor blades at a high rate of speed and thinks to themselves, you know what will take that team over the top? The guy in the suit cursing. If he curses, that's what'll fix what's happening out here. I know that- I know they- I know they've worked all their life to be these amazing creatures who skate on razor blades

and put their faces in front of the puck. They're already playing in the playoffs. They want to win very badly at sports, but what they need is the guy in the suit to curse a few times, then they'll remember to score. Ballerinas on razor blades, that would be figure skaters, you know, Nancy Kerrigan, Tonya Harding. Tonya Harding, yeah, yeah.

Did sometimes your message gets across more clearly when you just throw in a couple of curse words. It does, yeah, it really hammers home the message, I'm telling you. Jeremy, what are you bent over laughing at? Just the clarification. On ballerinas, on skates, like, you were using language. I want, thank you. You're a writer.

Jeremy, yes, thank you, and I don't, like, I don't understand the correction. Yet, what's happening with you, because your panthers are good, the other day you said to me on air in front Of everyone no actually Dan interrupted me and you said no actually Dan. I've got a better question He did that I did that to the journalists That was after you and me argued in the meeting before the show

We argued about whether or not the Panthers had indeed pulled one out of their ass You're out of control and I would think that you would have taken last night's loss and been a little bit sheepish about it but you've come in just as aggressive today. You're right. Yeah, you're right. I'm a bit over aggressive right now. Yeah, I'm just waiting for them to win on Friday and go on and possibly play the Rangers. Are you worried Roy? I feel like you're worried. Is it time to worry? No, this is not Roy. This is not the Roy I know. No. It's supposed to be scary guys. Well hold on. What if know. No. It's supposed to be scary, guys. Well, hold on. What if Panthers lose the next game?

Will you be worried? I'll be worried. But you're coming home. Yeah, you're coming back home for game seven. Do you want a game seven? No, I don't want a game seven. I want the series to be over. What the hell's the matter with you?

You sound scared. Our thanks to Bernie and Sebastian the Ibis. Wait, hold on. Dan used to tell people to vote for them. I'm going to. Go to masterhalloffame.com. Well, does it matter? And also, in the time that's left, I'm consulted. You guys do it. Sebastian the Ibis wait hold on Dan used to tell people to vote for them going to the hall of fame So in the time that's left

You guys do something maybe each of them gives a speech as to why we should vote them in To the hall of fame it's a great idea to give that speed No, I was if they wanted to say it right throw in some profanities a la Paul Maurice if you want all right there You go go ahead Sebastian you first Alright, there you go. Go ahead Sebastian you first All right, Bernie I should be in based on that Oh well said Yeah We're gonna vote both mascots. We're gonna vote or votes me nothing. Okay. Well, but don't tell people that your votes count Well, we should have gotten someone on from the Hall of Fame while they were in studio with us first Sebastian

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