The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Horse Hockey and Poppycock

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

David Samson joins the show to discuss how he celebrated the Florida Panthers winning their first Stanley Cup, and what it meant to him and his son. The Panthers announced yesterday they are moving th...eir broadcasts off Bally Sports and onto free local television, and David shares his thoughts on the move. Plus, Samson thinks the narrative the Lakers are pushing about Bronny James is hilarious and the game has passed Pat Riley by. Is it time for the Heat to close the window and give up on their whale hunting? Finally, David has a movie review that Amin is very excited about. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:10 New Jersey. Please drink responsibly. Welcome to the big suey presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this show. A podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
Starting point is 00:01:36 That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This reminds me of Pimp My Ride. Speaking of Pimp My Ride, here comes David Sampson, host of Nothing Personal with David Sampson. Sampson, welcome to the show, and before we get into some of the more
Starting point is 00:01:56 sports-busy topics, have you ever watched the program House Hunters or House Hunters International on HGTV? I have not. God, that's a on HGTV? I have not. God, that's a segment killer, but I absolutely have not. Worth a try. The Panthers, I don't know if you heard, David, they won the Stanley Cup. And they did.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Much to the delight of most of South Florida, you once famously said that as president of the Marlins, you guys publicly were very supportive of the local teams, but privately there was a rivalry because you guys are all competing for the same dollar, the same entertainment dollar for the local market. When a team wins, like for instance, when you were president, the Heat won, right?
Starting point is 00:02:42 What is the conversation behind the scenes for all the other organizations locally? Well, first, you're approached by your PR guy who says, all right, you want to take out a newspaper ad or do you want? What kind of congratulations do you want to do? Social media when you want to invite them to come to a game and throw out a first pitch? What do you want to do?
Starting point is 00:03:02 Should the owner call the owner, president call the president? We would have a list of things that we would do. My fingers and toes would always be crossed because I would be despondent. I'd be thankful it was finally over, but I would obviously be upset because we'd have our corporate sales guys go out and they'd be in meetings and the company would say,
Starting point is 00:03:21 listen, we've allocated our South Florida dollars to the winners, to the champions, so we're gonna cut your deal by X amount. So there was always a definite dollar problem with all the success that another franchise would have. It really was never an issue with the Panthers during my time with the Marlins. And it really wasn't an issue with the Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:03:43 The Heat were the biggest problem during the course of my career without a question. Samson, hello by the way, it's Israel. I was curious, I'm sorry if you've spoken about this before, certainly wouldn't be a Dan LeVittar show first to be repetitive. When you were at the game that they caught you on camera hugging and celebrating,
Starting point is 00:04:01 I was against the Rangers, right? What was that feeling like? Cause I didn't think you were that connected to this team. And then what was it like for you when they won the cup? So you're talking about the picture and that was with, I was with my son. And so now we have to go back to a post-divorce world where there is some sort of estrangement,
Starting point is 00:04:22 wondering why the father was always away for years. And then all of a sudden he's out of baseball and then disappears from the house entirely. And so my son and I, I've worked really hard to rebuild and build that relationship and that connection. And he agreed to go to a game with me and we used to go to baseball games all the time. And we had never been to a hockey game. And I asked him if you wanted to go to the Ranger playoff game because he's working in New York now. And we decided A, we were going to go and B, we were going to
Starting point is 00:04:47 wear anther's gear. And I'm a Nick fan and I'm a Ranger fan, but I was rooting for the Panthers because of Matt Caldwell and Vinny Viola and for South Florida. I wanted the Panthers to win and for whatever reason TV caught us doing a celebratory hug and that's sort of the story of the relationship where he's celebrating looking one way. And I'm trying to latch on and get sort of a moment with him. But I count that as a moment.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But maybe that's just so the second part of my question is moot because the actual panther success in the cup means nothing to you. This was just a family moment that that was a family moment. I'm truly happy that they won the cup means nothing to you. This was just a family moment. That was a family moment. I'm truly happy that they won the cup and I'm really happy for the organization because I don't compete with them at all anymore, obviously. And frankly, it's great to have a Stanley Cup champion. And I loved it for Miami because they became one of,
Starting point is 00:05:39 I think, only nine cities now to have championships in all four major sports. And that's pretty cool. I want Miami to be a part of that because I get to be a part of that, having helped the Marlins be a part of that. That was my stat of the day. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:05:56 David, question for you. What age was your son taller than you? When did that start? It happened in high school. It was a big thing. I'll tell you a story. He wanted, as soon as he could talk, one of the things that he wanted was growth hormone because he didn't want to be short the way I am. And I was an absolute no and it was a rough go because not that I didn't want to be taller than I he's got a tall grandfather both of his grandfathers are actually tall 5'11 or greater at least when before they started shrinking and now they're both passed
Starting point is 00:06:38 away but in any case I thought he had a shot at height though. My two other children who are older are both very short. So We had a problem and I said no growth hormone It's not good for you. He said my friends are all doing it Let me do it and I was president of the Marlins at the time and I was an absolute no now Do I think that he did it behind my back? I don't, but he's five, 10 and a half and he told me that he is very happy that he's not five. Circumstantial evidence David.
Starting point is 00:07:13 My partner Anthony took growth hormones when he was younger. He is five, five. Oh no. Didn't work, shortest one in his family. No. Case against. So that's the worst of both worlds then. Good athlete.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Very short. Oh, yeah. I wanted him to be okay with being short, because I think it's important, but he just didn't want to be. And so I know when he became taller than I, because I was pretty focused on it, and so was he, he'd always want to go back to back
Starting point is 00:07:43 until I disappeared from the house. But then when I came back into his life, which I always wanted to be, but he was tall and he likes that fact. The Panthers local TV deal has expired. Jeremy Tache told us yesterday, he found out a few hours before we went on air and then it came out that Bally
Starting point is 00:08:02 would no longer be broadcasting Panthers games. They're going to go with scripts. And when I was told scripts, David, I said, the spelling bee people. Do you know what I just watched? Maybe three nights ago that I had one of my sleepless nights and I watched Bad Words. Yeah, great movie, great movie. It is a movie that I've now seen maybe 10 times and it still gets better every time. Bateman as an outright asshole as opposed to a sarcastic asshole is quite,
Starting point is 00:08:39 I enjoyed it very much seeing him kind of play against type. Real quick, Scripps involved in sports, they have WNBA and NWSL rights. So Scripps is not just getting into sports for the first time. But it is the spelling bee people. Yeah. Okay. So let me be clear about something,
Starting point is 00:08:57 and I covered this on this morning, it's nothing personal, but here we go. The deal that the Panthers just did, they're only doing because they can't get money from a stone. Bally's is bankrupt. In the Panthers' mind, their deal was so small to begin with
Starting point is 00:09:17 that they felt that they could have a PR strategy where they say, we're bringing the game to you. There's such great demand. We just want a Stanley Cup. We are going to reward this community with over the air rabbit antenna games. Meanwhile, as an owner of a team, you are despondent beyond repair that you have to go over the air if the fan base were greater and bigger. And I'm not selling the fan base
Starting point is 00:09:45 at all, but if they thought for one minute that there would be enough subscribers who would pay monthly on a streaming app, that's the direction the Panthers would have gone. But what teams are doing is they're saying, no, no, we're going to go over the air as a gift to all of you to broaden our reach and exposure, it's all poppycock. They want the revenue, they want the money, and there was no money in that Bally's deal, so they're taking the rights back, but in order for the Panthers to thrive,
Starting point is 00:10:17 they've gotta find a way to monetize their broadcast, and scripts ain't it. The Phoenix Suns did the same thing. They said, hey, as soon as the new ownership group came in, hey, you know what first thing we're doing? We're giving the games for free over the air. And I said, that's because you don't have a TV deal. That's not correct.
Starting point is 00:10:33 That's not out of magnanimity. NBA free agencies going, David, what do you find, what's tickled your fancy the most? For me, it's been LeBron announcing he'd take less than max to give the Lakers the opportunity to go out and get names And then they didn't get anybody said you know what never mind. I'll just take the max The whole thing was so choreographed that broke live during my show this morning that he signed that deal And I and I got to react live and so now I've had about an hour to think about it And it's even more Machiavellian than I was able to communicate.
Starting point is 00:11:07 This was so scripted. Speaking of scripts, drafting Brani, giving him a roster spot, a multi-year deal, then LeBron signing. It all had to happen in that order. And then for JJ Reddick, or deny and to actually say, Hey, you know, Bronnie is what case study number one of our player development. He is here because he deserves to be here. It's such horse hockey that it made me laugh. Why
Starting point is 00:11:36 couldn't they have just been honest? Say, you know what? This is damn cool. A father and a son. There's no way Bronnie would be on this team. But we wanted to give this to LeBron because he deserves it. It's so amazing that he has this opportunity and that he's still a productive player at his age. And so we let him choose the coach. We let him choose the draft pick
Starting point is 00:11:56 and we let him choose the contract. If I'm an executive in that situation, I'm cringing. I'm like, JJ, you are now saying he's earned this, meaning he deserves the spot. Meaning if you don't play him, there's going to be a question mark here, or they're going to say that we're going to be in that situation, I'm cringing. I'm like, JJ, you are now saying he's earned this, meaning he deserves the spot, meaning if you don't play him, there's gonna be a question mark here, or they're gonna say that we made the wrong choice.
Starting point is 00:12:11 That's a terrible choice for JJ to go with. I couldn't imagine how bad the PR strategy was during that press conference. It's like they didn't expect to have to answer. It's like Brawny did not embrace the reality, so he was somehow coached to say, oh, this is nothing to do with my dad. It's a silly way to go.
Starting point is 00:12:30 What I think is gonna happen with the Lakers and what I hope they're smart enough to have done with LeBron is say we drafted him, we signed him. We're gonna play him the first time you're active. That's all we're guaranteed. After that, he may be DNPCD every single game. We may need the roster spot at some point,
Starting point is 00:12:50 but you will be on the court with your son one time. But if they promised him that he has to have a roster spot throughout the playoffs and all through this contract, that would just be disastrous for the Lakers. We're gonna have more with David Sampson next, including something that Mike Ryan said yesterday that Pat Riley has been passed over by the game. The Dan LeBoutard Show with Stu Gotz
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Starting point is 00:14:16 This is the Don LeBattard Show with the Stugats. We're back with David Sampson, host of Nothing Personal with David Sampson. You can get it wherever you get podcasts or watch it right here on the DraftKings network. David, yesterday an apoplectic Mike Ryan said that the game- Is he ever any other way? But it was extra yesterday. It was one of those things where on July 1st,
Starting point is 00:14:48 or July 2nd, I guess, was yesterday, he was absolutely destroyed that the heat did not somehow net Paul George and Victor Wembenyama and Steph Curry and every other. Mike was pretty calm on that subject. Was he calm? That was not calm. Just because the words are conveyed like this
Starting point is 00:15:06 does not mean that there isn't an air of extreme panic. And I said, Mike, you knew what the cap situation was going in, you knew what the Ross situation was going in, what gave you the idea that on July 1, you would have a blockbuster deal? And he just kept saying, well, this is what the heater known for, and I said, it's been Alonzo Morning, Shaquille O'Neal, Bosch and LeBron, and then Jimmy Butler.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And that's it, over the course of 30, now almost 30 years with Pat Riley. You've got four landmark deals that they did, where they went whale hunting and they caught one. Pretty good. This is one of those situations where I'm biting my tongue so hard because I want to get past the David Sampson portion
Starting point is 00:15:48 of the interview because I have some beef with you on this list of yours. Well, David, do you think the game has passed Pat Riley by and that the heat somehow have failed that magnificently because they didn't get someone in the first 48 hours of free agency? So I got crushed for saying this on your show months ago, where I said that for the heat to continue, it's time for Pat Riley to step aside.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And it was absolutely not received well. And I love Pat and he's a Hall of Famer. He's on the Mount Rushmore of executives and coaches, in my opinion. But it is a different game. And if you look at the players that he has decided to get into bed with, basically he's carried forward his coaching philosophy into his executive philosophy. And I call it the two for 18 philosophy.
Starting point is 00:16:34 It's the dance with the players who brought you to the dance philosophy. It's the, oh my God, John Stark stinks. We're gonna keep letting him shoot in game seven philosophy. It's the long-term deals. You guys criticize me nonstop for some of the deals I cut in your community. What about some of these long-term deals? And I can't argue with the rings.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I can't argue with Shaq, LeBron choosing Miami. Was it because of Pat Riley? I could argue one way or the other and I could be convincing one way or the other. But if you look at what's happened when there has not been a central figure, and I count Jimmy Butler because the streak and the run with Jimmy has been great, but recognizing when a window closes is not something that he's good at.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And this window is closed for the heat. They need to do something different, better, smarter, and it just occurs to me that Pat may be too stubborn. I mean, that does sound like a calmed down version of Mike. I think it's crazy. I think they have been the only team locally, and I know people are tired of hearing this, who refuse to shut a window.
Starting point is 00:17:39 It is always trying to keep that thing open, and they have been relevant since what, 1995, when Pat got here, say for a couple of years, we're an injury here and then just a down cycle there, but the down cycle was very short. And so we're not gonna re-talk about everything that Jimmy has done in this era, but again, South Floridian grew up through all of this.
Starting point is 00:18:01 They're the only team that forces themselves into that conversation or tries to all the time. And I'll just forever give them a standing ovation for that because I don't have that roller coaster experience like I've had with the Marlins, Dolphins, et cetera. Give them a standing ovation. Yeah, I dare you.
Starting point is 00:18:17 For the rest of time or, cause I can probably tell you. You said you would. Yeah. Riley, I love you man, you've done great. Camera's over there. Give it to the camera. Where ever the hat is. I love that hat. I know you man, you've done great. Cameras over there. Give it to the camera. I love it. I know you're watching.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I think it's great to give Pat a standing ovation and he deserves to be in Springfield and I agree with all of that, but the question was a bit smaller Israel. The question is, do we think the game has changed enough that it has passed him by? Father time is gonna win every single time. You know that and that was really my point.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I am not selling the run that the heat of had. I'm merely saying that the comment that you said is very telling. They've refused to let the window close. That's not the sign of a good executive. A good executive knows when to close the window and gets it open as quickly as possible, and that's the difference. Yeah, and those windows have resulted in three championships and many more finals run,
Starting point is 00:19:12 so I'm good with that philosophy based on the results in the town that I live in for my life. And also, I would add, this team isn't a horrible train wreck. I mean, this is still isn't a horrible train wreck. I mean, this is still an elite defense every single year. Their problem is very specific, and I think the fix, they're searching for the fix. To me, passing them by is them going after the wrong guys. Going after guys that, oh, this guy should be good.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And it's like, no, that guy clearly isn't the answer. They went after Damien Lillard, they didn't get him. They went after Donovan Mitchell, looks like they're not gonna get him for the time being. Like these are guys that I think are good selections. It's just, you know, I mean, David, you know this as well as anyone. I can say, ooh, let me try and get this guy,
Starting point is 00:20:01 but until I get an agreement going with the other side that owns his rights, there's not much I can do. Yeah, I don't like when we are Monday morning quarterbacks and that's what our industry is where it's funny. One part of it is the insiders who try to scoop everybody. The other side are the critiquers who once deals are done, they start talking about it. When you're actually doing the deals, it's not like it's portrayed in the media.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I mean, this must frustrate you to no end because you're my comp for someone who's done deals and then also gets paid to talk about the people who are doing the deals. And I think you'll agree, there is a Grand Canyon size difference between the way things actually happen and the way the majority of the media describes them
Starting point is 00:20:48 and fans describe them as happening. Yeah, like I think a big thing is I look for mismanagement, right? So we just, we talked about the Lakers in the last segment. We're talking about the heat here. And you could see the Lakers have mismanagement. They're doing, yeah, they could say, oh yeah, we wanted to get Klay Thompson,
Starting point is 00:21:06 but he just said no or whatever. But a lot of, along the way, they're doing these steps where it's like, that's not how you do that. And because you make this mistake that you think is just a throwaway thing, it accumulates, it builds up, and now you're where you find yourself. Whereas with the Heat,
Starting point is 00:21:19 I think they make by and large the right decisions. It's just, you know, at some point, you're waiting for a shoe to drop that you have no control over. Let me add this, if I can, David, to the idea that this strategy doesn't work, that it's not a good front office strategy. I, and it's the only sport, the only team
Starting point is 00:21:40 that I have ever paid a monthly subscription service to watch was for the Miami Heat and it was a couple years ago when they weren't even supposed to be that good. Why? Because year after year after year after year they've convinced me that they were going to try to be good and that sold me. I want to watch them. They are in my heart if you will.
Starting point is 00:22:02 None of these other teams have that anymore. Dolphins had that for a little while when I was growing up, gone. Panthers never had it, it's getting there now. And Marlins, I'm sorry, never had it. It was too obvious of a, you know, just getting rid of everybody as soon as the championships were won.
Starting point is 00:22:16 So Heat, the only person I would pay for, if the Panthers are doing this for long enough and are good long enough, you know what? They are gonna people who are gonna pay for their monthly subscription too. Yeah, I don't wanna relitigate, but Israel, I would actually hope that you would acknowledge that it was oh six, three years later,
Starting point is 00:22:31 we got rid of everybody, not immediately. Sorry, well, the franchise, not just you doing it, but the franchise in general. I just wanted to remind, sometimes I have to remind myself because we get lopped in with Heisinga, but I don't wanna actually go back to that. But I am curious that you pay for the heat.
Starting point is 00:22:46 You wouldn't pay for the Panthers now. They just won the cup. I will. I would do more. Yeah, I think they might have missed out on that opportunity because I would have next season for sure. Hmm. So it's interesting because their choice has to be because they in their mind do not feel that it's real enough. And if you look at the ratings and I know that when I used to, it's not nice of me,
Starting point is 00:23:08 but we used to call the Panthers hashtag because that was the audience on Bally's. It used to be Fox Sports Florida, but that was the number. It was Heat, Marlins, and hashtag. And what the Panthers have done is they changed their whole organization. They've committed on the ice. They have done something that is incredible that ended in a Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:23:37 My view is you've got to take it out for a ride and they gave up so quickly and I get it because you panic when you see what's happening with your, how quick can they turn that switch? Well, I mean, obviously now it's too late. They already announced, but how quick could they have turned that switch? You can develop it with Gary Bepman and with the streaming service, you can have your own streaming service the way the Yankees did with Yes Network. I don't know why there's a thumb up right now.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Did I do that? So you can do that. Sorry, that's not even fun for the audio people. Yes, it would be done available for next season without a question. Real quick, David, before we get, you do have a movie. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:06 But before we get there, hashtag, is it just because it's a number sign and it doesn't matter what the actual number is? Hashtag is is when it doesn't rate. OK, nice. All right. It's a it's a small enough audience that it doesn't rate. David, I'm really excited for the movie you are reviewing this week. I hope so. And Jessica and Lucy, I know that you doesn't rate. David, I'm really excited for the movie you are reviewing this week. I hope so. And Jessica and Lucy, I know that we are not, we don't share movie tastes and I get it.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I didn't want to watch 1940s movies when I was growing up and your age. So you may think 80s movies are this. There is a documentary out today. It's a current movie. It's called Remembering Gene Wilder. And I don't know if you know who Gene Wilder is, but I want to co-sign. Willy Wonka. He went to Iowa. Oh yeah?
Starting point is 00:24:52 I did not know that. Him and Ashton Kutcher. That's all we got. Caitlin Clark too, but Ashton Kutcher didn't graduate. Do you, I guess you still get to count that you are, went to college if you don't graduate? I guess baseball players do it all the time. So remember Gene Wilder, he is an actor. This documentary goes back to his beginnings, which were fascinating through Willy Wonka, which is only one of the famous parts he had. And Gene Wilder has a personal place in my life because the first movie that got me into movies was a Gene Wilder
Starting point is 00:25:25 movie called Silver Streak. And the relationship between him and Richard Pryor, who is really the grandfather of all the great comedians you see today, to me, Richard Pryor. Eddie Murphy may be the father. Richard Pryor is Eddie Murphy's father. And people may not know who that is. They may associate him with Freebase scene. You may associate Gene Wilder with just Wonka. If you watch this documentary, it will give you insight into the rebar that was Gene Wilder for the movie industry, for the comedy
Starting point is 00:25:57 industry, for the buddy movie industry. So I would ask, and I don't ask a lot, if you're willing, please watch Remembering Gene Wilder. I watched it, it's incredible. And I did not know that he passed away from Alzheimer's. And so even that storytelling about how the end came about for him kind of moved me. And I'm a guy who doesn't get moved very easily. So it is definitely worth your time.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Even if all you've ever seen of him was Willy Wonka. It's incredible. It's a great, great piece of documentary. David, thanks a lot. Nothing personal with David Sampson. Check him out wherever you get podcasts. Howdy folks, it's Mike Ryan. And as you know, I've been telling you on the air
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Starting point is 00:27:38 Don LeBretard! Sugar Daddies. These things, I'm telling you. I love Sugar Daddies. I like those too. They get stuck in your teeth like you can't chew them. They're like impossible to chew. They are impossible to chew. Working for Sugar Daddies these things I love sugar dad. I like tucking your teeth. I can't chew them They're like impossible to chew their Daddy's every day stew guts This is the down Libertar show with the stew gods Is he asking a question before the lights went on?
Starting point is 00:28:10 These images that are behind you guys, is that new or has this been a thing before? Because I have some fun with the video department. I endorse these because every time I look back, normally I just kind of look at you guys to see which one's engaging. Now I get to see from left to right, dancing Chris Cody, in the middle, dancing Greg Cody. On the right, another dancing and then disappearing Chris Cody, it is the happiest that groom has ever been,
Starting point is 00:28:38 just on a loop. It would be odd if they had behind us just us in our phones. Well yeah, yeah, no that's true. But just the fact that it is three Cody's, I guess technically two Cody's, right behind you doing everything to liven up the room, I think it's absolutely perfect.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Shout out video team. We gotta add Chris doing the electric slide in the last segment to the montage. I'm with you. We had someone cut a little sizzle of the last three years of show moments for a meeting we had recently. And I enjoyed it. It was like, oh wow, look at that fun time.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Look at that fun time. We have done some stuff. Was there a clip of Chris answering his phone? Because I am still shocked that that is a possibility. Oh, my foot. I did that for Mystery Cred, actually. Check out Mystery Cred this week if you wanna see me answer my phone.
Starting point is 00:29:24 With your foot? Yeah. I do that all the time. Oh my God Mystery Create this week if you wanna see me answer my phone. With your foot? Yeah. I do that all the time. Oh my God. Not pick up your cell phone with your foot, but put your foot to your ear. Wait, what do you do? As if you were a phone, yes.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That flexibility is, you're either born to do it or not. Chris, show him answer the phone please, Chris. I don't hear a ring, I mean there's no phone ring. Ring, ring. Wait, so your foot is your phone. Look at that, look at that. Insane. My hip does not do that.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I got you. Real Mr. Freyhead snow. Weird talents. You answer a phone with your foot? Yeah, like you grab your phone with your foot? The green butt, see Lucy knows what I'm talking about. But you don't grab it with your foot. You grab it in between your big toe and your tall toe.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Wait, what? And you put it up and you put it. Hold on a second, both of you do this? And you're not the foot girls? I feel like Lucy was just supporting a friend. No, no, no, if my phone is, let's say I'm painting my nails, my phone's gotta reach someone's calls, and I can swipe or press the green button,
Starting point is 00:30:17 I press it and then I can press speaker. Big toe, yeah, big toe. Also, the remote, or I can do the ball of my foot. The remote when you're changing the volume. Yeah, big toe. Also, like the remote. Or I can do my, like the ball of my foot. The remote when you're changing the volume. Yeah, I can do that. So I'm never touching your remote control even when I go to your house. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I don't do it often. I had a barefoot flyer the other day and I was like, I thought we were done with these. Cause like you see those videos of like the people, remember when like airplanes I guess just don't have screens behind their seats anymore, at least not the airplanes I can afford. So like they had those and then you'd see the videos
Starting point is 00:30:50 of people like swiping with their toes and you're like okay, I'm never touching that again. And then they got rid of those screens, at least on the planes I go on, there's no screens anymore. And then I just saw like a person just like barefoot, like with their foot like on the person in front of there like leaning against the back of the armrest.
Starting point is 00:31:06 It's not like they wouldn't touching them because it wasn't that far, but it was just like, why are we still doing this whole barefoot thing on airplanes, touching everything? Just, your foot might be gross, right? But also, the chair is gross. Why do you want your possibly clean foot touching this nasty ass seat?
Starting point is 00:31:24 I never go barefoot on flights, never even wore sandals, always have socks on my feet. But I don't get appalled by it the way some people do. I'm gonna defend these people. I don't do it. You don't get appalled by a barefoot? If I see someone with sandals, I'm just like, it's not sandals. No, but barefoot touching the rug. No, no.
Starting point is 00:31:42 The sun of the great toe does not pay attention to other people's feet? I just don't look at it and get that disgusted. Obviously if someone's swiping the screen with their foot, that would be disgusting. But I wanna defend foot people. I'm gonna tell you why the Sandal people are on the shit list, right?
Starting point is 00:31:58 Number one is most of them don't have TSA pre-check, meaning you went through security barefoot through this gross-ass airport where Billions of people walk through every single hour Like that's just that's gross right that's number one then they get on the plane, and they just kick their feet up and touch things that are Basically touched by hands right my hands touch these armrests, man. My hands touch the trains. Who's putting their foot on the armrest? Plenty of people. That's what we're trying to tell you.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Plenty of people. A lot of people. I won't defend those people. I recently had a foot situation that I feel like maybe, maybe Jess and Lucy can relate to, but here we go. So you know how they have those little masks and stuff that they have at like Ulta or Sephora, right?
Starting point is 00:32:47 You could do a little day, 15 minute, well they have those things for your feet, right? So you could just put your feet in a little pouch and all of a sudden there's a bunch of liquid in there, you leave it in there for an hour, boom, it's supposed to do something to your feet, right? They're not gonna spend time by the whole time. What's this assumption that we're not
Starting point is 00:32:59 foot masking over here, by the way? I fast. Are you putting a face mask on? I face mask sometimes. I like the ones that dry that you peel off. And then like, here's the gross part. I like to see the blackheads get pulled out. Like I like to see like the stalactites
Starting point is 00:33:13 and stalagmites on my old face mask. I watched those videos on TikTok. You're never gonna like to see what I experienced because I did one of these before it was a foot thing, right? And turns out it was fine. It was like a moisturizing thing. This one was more of a peel thing, yes Lucy.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And so I didn't read that on the thing. And so I'm done, whatever, I'm like, oh my feet look normal. Two days later, I looked down and it looked like I had a flesh eating disease because all my foot skin was coming off of my feet. I looked in the mirror with my foot like that and the entire bottom of my foot was about to come off.
Starting point is 00:33:49 You sure you can't answer the phone? I told you. Was it, is it called baby foot? Ring ring. Can we put it on speaker please? It's supposed to be like an exfoliating thing. It's like a multi, it was a baby foot? It's like a multi-day foot mask.
Starting point is 00:33:59 It peeled off your whole foot. But it was six full days. I've never done it but. It was insane. I thought it was going to keep going up and then all of a sudden I'd be peeling off. No, it's like a chemical peel for your foot. They didn't warn you on the, like a week from now
Starting point is 00:34:11 your foot's gonna be gross. And I had a pedicure planned, a schedule, then I almost canceled it because I was embarrassed. And she went in there, she's like, no, people do this all the time. They come in in the phase where you were, where it was just about to come off and they're like, ew, that's gross.
Starting point is 00:34:24 At least I came in at the back end of the phase where you were, where it was just about to come off, and they're like, ew, that's gross. At least I came in at the back end of the phase. What? What, right now? If you were to touch my foot, I mean, baby soft skin. Do it, touch it. Amazing. Confirm that.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I'll touch it. I kinda wanna touch it. Come over here, Chris, touch his foot. I'm just doing it. No, not, no. Chris, you just said you weren't grossed out by feet. Touch it. I guarantee you this foot is probably go Chris
Starting point is 00:34:46 But that you grew up with by the way That's probably why he's not grossed out by airplane feet because he grew up with Greg Cody The worst foot of all my dad has some pretty gross Dad's have gross feet I look at my feet. I wonder sometimes is this like a time is a time bomb your gross No, it's not actually I've been compliment on my feet a lot of times If I don't air out a little if you look at boys model quality feet is what they say really they say that They said I had a little surgery on you got a little it does look very soft. Thank you. I'm not gonna lie
Starting point is 00:35:18 That is like it. It's like I want to go to the part. He had Botox on his feet He doesn't have it smooth didn't you do the little piggies to witty one time Chris? Yeah, do little piggies do little little yes, which little piggy goes home. I don't remember. Yeah, which one was it? How does that go the pinky pinky piggy goes home? Good I know I was trying to trick him to do we we all the way home So where's he going? Maybe not All the way home? Soft foot. Where's he going? He just left. Oh, imagine he's gonna wash his hands, or maybe not. How much would you offer as a reward
Starting point is 00:35:56 for the retrieval of something of value to you? It depends on the thing. Let's say it's your phone. You lost your phone, and you say, hey, if you bring me my phone back, I'll give you, how much would you say for a lost phone? 200 bucks. 200 bucks is a lot, but okay. Really?
Starting point is 00:36:11 So you want me to say less than 200 bucks? Or should I just say more? What, no, what? $400. What if you lost your laptop? How much? That's a company laptop. 175.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I don't care. They're on the hook, not me. Jack. What if you lost your glasses? Six billion dollars. Okay. I don't know. What if you lost a ring worth $100,000?
Starting point is 00:36:38 Would a couple of tickets to a game and some signed merch get the job done? So this is a Jalen Brown thing. This is absolutely the Jalen Brown thing. He lost his ring, this- During the job done. So this is a Jalen Brown thing. This is absolutely the Jalen Brown thing. He lost his ring, this- During the championship. Diamond encrusted ring during the championship parade, said, big reward, big reward for the person who returns it to me, who can find it and return it to me.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Big reward, I'm thinking, wow, this guy decided to- Before you even say what the award is reward? Yeah What are you doing in that situation? You have all that information? You know the ring is real you know who it belongs to you probably have a good idea It's six figures at the minimum What are you doing with that? I? Am Sending Celtics fan you are also a Celtics fan because you are at the parade jeez
Starting point is 00:37:24 I'm sending the biggest ransom note I can send brother getting a lot of magazines. Yep You have 24 hours That we're talking about other magazines Going there, but now he's ready Clippings from the magazine The ransom already wasting money that you don't even have yet from that rate. Oh buddy, I got money. It's kind of like when people catch like home run balls
Starting point is 00:37:49 that the team wants to give to the player, the team wants back and they're like, oh, how about we give you a free hot dog? This to me is the easiest answer. Like people talk about bags of money, what could be illegal, what, this, and I know it can be illegal if you actually know that it belongs to somebody else.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I'm gonna play dumb, I'm going to multiple pawn shops actually, I'm going to play dumb. And if one of them says, hey, didn't Jalen Brown lose this ring? I'd be like, I don't know what the hell you're talking about, give me my ring, I'm getting out of here, until I get the price that I want, I'm getting that money.
Starting point is 00:38:20 And then, I'm gonna snip, snip, snip, snip all those little magazine letters, and write him a letter and say, hey, I think your ring is at this pawn shop, and that's it. I get my money. That is crazy behavior. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:38:32 There are people who would take bags of money and just go home with it. Why wouldn't you take the ring? Why wouldn't, why? Why are they gonna snitch on where you sold it? Yeah, the poor pawn guy. What are you doing that for? What do you mean, he's making money.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Jalen Brown's gonna buy it back from him. You have to go to a really unethical pawn guy though, because some of them wouldn't buy that sort of thing, if they knew it belonged to someone. An unethical pawn shop owner, I don't think those exist. You're right. Don't go to the pawn stores, they're very ethical. Okay, so at the very least, like if I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:38:59 I can get 100k for that ring, I don't care who's it is, I'm going to do it. He probably has a bunch of rings, or he can buy it back, or he can give the pawn shop owner the prize. What was the prize? The prize was some tickets to Celtics games and some signed merch. And I was just like, dude, I'm not saying that, look,
Starting point is 00:39:19 if I found it, I wouldn't ask for 100 grand because it's worth 100 grand. You can't ask for what the thing is worth because at that point he's like, I'll just buy a new one. Oh, I'm not gonna ask for 100 grand, because it's worth 100 grand. Like you can't ask for what the thing is worth, because at that point he's like, I'll just buy a new one. Oh, I'm not gonna ask Jalen Brown, but I'm gonna ask somebody else for what it's worth. But like if he came and said $10,000 reward,
Starting point is 00:39:34 okay, then I get to be a hero. Like okay, I found Jalen Brown's ring, and I got a little cash to say something about it. But like an autographed jersey and tickets to a game? Yeah, even the 10, it's gotta be at least a quarter dude of what that means literally he's not spending any money, right? The tickets are comp the Jersey I get up in the equipment manager and sign it You're literally not willing to pay a dollar Also another element highest paid player in the league another thing to think about how about this?
Starting point is 00:40:02 How about you take the ring you go to a jeweler and you go, Hey, look, let's create one, but a fake one that looks just like he's not going to know the difference. Okay. Then we go split half and half. You can sell this thing on the download black market. We split the money. We give him back the ring. He thinks it's the real ring. It is of course the fake ring that costs us 25 bucks instead of 100 grand. Everybody's happy. You just wrote oceans 12, my friend. Ocean 17. That is the worst. The idea is what was your idea? I'd leave it. Okay. Run away. Yeah. Guys. I'm a massive,
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