The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: How Long Do You Keep a Card?

Episode Date: August 22, 2023

Ron Magill is here to discuss fake sharks in LA, Lolita the Killer Whale, two-headed snakes, and much more. Then, Lucy's a young person and is very overwhelmed by having to send out mail. Plus, how long do you keep a card someone has given you? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite, presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Ron McGill joins us now and it's fitting that yesterday and to start today, Mike, we were talking about circumcised and uncircumcised penises because this animal

that Ron McGill created that was now stuffed and sitting in a place that the camera's can't see at the moment, but it looks like it botched circumcised weiner with hands. This is what it looks like to me. And so, kind of weiner's hands is what it looks like to me Kind of weeners you I'm trying to we're bad. I would like to go ahead and get a explanation from Ron because I was not here when this animal was built Yeah, that's not what it looks like to me

Sad place there brother. You're talking about the penis or the animal The animal the animal doesn't look like a butt circumsay. It looks like a straight white shark head with harpequial talons, uh, a massive tail. No, that's exactly what it looked. That's, that's, that's, that's the killer beast, man. Okay. I mean, I would call it a killer beast,

really? You're, you're, what about, you're penis looks like the head of a great white shark? That's pretty incredible. If they botched the surgery Then yes, it would have looked like that. Yes Ron I was reading about a wallaby that was found in Coney Island and They created a little sort of place for him to live because they were expecting more

I'm curious as to why you would think they're expecting more and I'm guessing this is just part of like You know people wanting to buy these exotic animals because I'm guessing this is just part of like, you know, people wanting to buy these exotic animals because I don't know who these folks are. Like if I ever walked into somebody's house and they had a like a pet kangaroo, I would freak out. Yeah, while these are not a terribly uncommon pet, unfortunately, as a matter of fact,

I remember Gloria Stephan had some down here for a while that she loves to drink a carol. But generally speaking, they are not an animal that I would ever recommend as a pet. But again, you know, people look at kangaroos and wallabies, which are just kind of a smaller form of kangaroo, and they have them just because they found one doesn't mean they should expect more. Now, normally in the wild, they are found in groups called mobs. But in Coney Island, I don't expect that there are mobs that exist. I was probably an individual's threat that escaped them.

That's where they got it. Yeah, true. How often are you fooled by the internet, Ron? You know, in the beginning, I think, you know, a couple of years ago, I was fooled a lot. Yeah. And then when some of the more ridiculous stuff came out, and I saw some of this AI stuff, and I saw some of the stuff that they were able to create, you know, with computer-generated images, I'm not fooled anymore.

I really, I look at it and at it so well it's really good work but you know when i see a uh... you know williamam if walking in manhattan i don't believe that really exists so ted crews got fooled by a viral photo that fools people often and by the way i think that it's become a mandela effect that day and was ever fooled by this i truly don't think they was ever fooled by the shark on the highway,

but Ron, were you ever fooled by the shark on the highway or the shark in the mall or the great white shark eating the dude diving from a helicopter has the internet ever gotten you the way that it got Ted Cruz? Matt by God. No, those shark images are the ones that I tend to, you know, see through right away because they're very easy to Photoshop and to duplicate and to create

these false images. So anytime you see fish and water and stuff like that, those are very easy to, you know, manipulate in the way you want to, to fit your narrative. But hypothetically speaking, if Los Angeles will occasionally come up to the shoreline, of course, when we have these surfer encounters that we've heard about. But, you know, I would say maybe a smaller shark, but that's something like a great white shark. Ron, sad news down here with Lolita, the killer whale, dying just days before being released from Miami's aquarium into the wild. At her age, how would she have fared in the wild? I want to be honest, we can be discussed this on the show before. The analogy I use is this.

This is an animal that for the overwhelming majority of her life over five decades has been kept in a horrific tank under terrible conditions. No question about that. But to think that you can just take her and bring her to the wild, even to a sea pen what they were talking about, would have been so psychologically traumatic for that animal, not to mention the physical challenges. The ocean has a bunch of pathogens

that she has not been exposed to growing up in that pretty much sterile tank. We as kids, we're exposed to things as kids, and we grow up, and we build up these antibodies, these immunities to those things as we're exposed to them. I've used this analogy before. I go to Africa. If I drink the water in Africa, I will be pooping through a needle for three weeks. If these kids drink the water who live there, have raised their, they can drink the water and they seem to be okay because they built up a resistance.

So, the psychological trauma of moving or removing her from this place, it's like if you take a kid that's been Illegally or horribly wrongly taken away from his family and put into a padded room Has cruel and horrible is that is and raised in a padded room all of his or her life, right? And then all of a sudden they say this was wrong. We could do this. Let's take this kid Let's put him out into civilization now Think about the mental trauma that's going to happen to this kid. And I know there are people who have said, oh, listen, but her family is going to recognize her right away, and they're going to take her in, she's going to know the language.

Again, folks, human beings are pretty smart, pretty smart animals, so to speak, at least mostly. If you take a child, right, let's take you take a child out of that, out from their family, let's say in Cambodia, bring them to the United States when they're two years old. And you raised them with a family in the United States two years old for 50 years. At 52, you're going to send them back to Cambodia. Let me ask you something. Do you think the mother of that person is going to recognize that person? That's my child. That's my child. Do you think that child who is only spoken English all of his or her life

going back to Cambodia is going to say, oh my language, I recognize it. What do I start speaking the language? I know. Let's use some common sense here. I am not negating the fact that what was done to that Kilauele was horrific. It was horrific. It should never ever happen again. But two wrongs don't make her right. And I think it would have been horrifically traumatic for that animal to be moved out there, with all the good intentions, people with their hearts are thinking. I understand that, and I support that good intention, but the reality is it would have been catastrophic in my opinion. Let's just clarify something for the record.

If humans are kidnapped and sequestered, they should be reunited with their families after, correct? Like, you don't think that they should stay captive because it'd be hard for them to be reacclimated into society. Absolutely. Okay, now you can go, Greg. I had to follow up question because you're obviously very passionate about what happened to Lolita. What should be the repercussion of this? Should there literally be a law against the life she was made to live? I believe so. Yeah, I do believe so.

That is, or effect to me, it was, you know, really, it was just animal cruelty to me. You can't have such a large, intelligent being, suchestered in such a small pan for her entire life doing what she did. Again, now I think, you know, when the people did that long ago, they didn't know better. And I think the people who cared for her were trying to do the best they could to care for her. But at the end of the day, it was the wrong thing.

So we can never let that happen again. Ron, looking out a photo here, and we have some, if you can put it up of a two-headed snake. It was in the Waco, Texas, the Cameron Park Zoo. It supposedly also has two brains. Tell me more about this snake, and are there any more two-headed animals just kind of hanging around zoos?

Yeah, you know, two-headed reptiles are more common than what you would see in, like, say, two-headed mammals. And I don't think I've ever seen a two-headed bird. But I have seen, two-headed reptiles are more common than what you would see in, like, say, two-headed mammals. And I don't think I've ever seen a two-headed bird. But I have seen some two-headed mammals that live, generally speaking, much short and lies. But two-headed reptiles live quite a long life. I've seen that in turtles and snakes very commonly. And they have independent minds.

They share a lot of the internal organs, but they seem to deal pretty well. I remember raising a two-headed ball python for years that survived pretty well. In the wild, sometimes it's more of a challenge, but under human care, the person caring for the snake can make sure that it's getting fed. And since it usually shares the stomach, it doesn't matter which head eats. Sometimes one is more dominant than the other, but it does occur. It's just basically a sign he's twin and an animal's twin.

It's like a Matt Damon Greg Keneer situation. Oh, wow. Hey, yeah. What's up one? Roy over there with the other. Ron, there used to be a show called Cat Dog. Is that possible? Ooh.

No. So, well, let me explain to you further how the show worked. It was one animal. One on one side was the head of a dog. And one on one side was the head of a dog and on the other side was the head of a cat now you get it is that possible they share the same body maybe same stomach a lot of things you just mentioned yeah exactly that would be an absolute negative here really sorry about that that's after a very

good night of drinking and whatever to lose loose and trying to try it though run are we sure positive okay run the biggest burmese is a python in the world was recently captured, clocked in at 19 feet and it was caught last month by hunters in big cypress reserve down here in South Florida. Is this the proper way, and we're gonna show the video here in a second, to trap a python? Yeah, I can't see, oh there it is. Well, that's not the way you would trap a 19 foot

python. That one here is probably about 9 10 feet max. But no, you would not do that like that. No. Is he trying to choke him there? Is that what he's doing? No, he's just trying to keep him from biting him. But, you know, at least he's not doing it alone. You would never go after a snake that large by yourself because the snake's going to wrap around. Now, granted, these guys not doing it alone. You would never go after a snake that large by yourself because the snake's gonna wrap around now. Grant, and these guys are doing something here for a little dramatic enhancements, you know, it was not as dramatic as they made it look there,

but the bottom line is, yeah, you wanna, of course, grab the head right behind the neck, but a snake, the size that you're describing would immediately wrap around you and pretty much incapacitate your arms and slowly but surely suffocate you to death and you would probably die. So you would never want to do anything like that with a snake alone. I should probably know this, but what is the end game for these guys in particular?

They just seem to be wrapping up the mouth and where they're doing. They're not keeping the iPhone. I think they're all generally speaking, all those snakes get youth at us. They sell the skins and all those snakes get youth at us. They sell the skins and all those things get used to us. Doesn't South Florida also have an open hunting season on these invasive animals in which they can actually catch rewards? Yes, the Python hunts. The annual Python hunts were winners get footballs made out of Python skins and things like that, all kinds of trophies. And there's cash rewards too. So there's a lot of incentive. The only problem I have with that is sometimes you get people, you know, coming down from like

the caroline is and Tennessee and Michigan to come on pythons and then I'm not familiar with the Everglades and the kind of habitat these animals are found and you get people get hurt, get stranded and have to be rescued. So there's a lot of danger to that. It's not just like a big rodeo like people think. I feel like this is where we tell people to donate to Ron substantive endowment which I believe Mike is holding up at the moment. No, yeah, is your endowment circumcise? Was no, we like to keep everything in the endowment hole. Wow, I'm really into that answer. I'm gonna mark you down as a no Have the surgery go. Ron, see cat dog look, see that?

That's not possible. Oh, yeah, there you go. Oh, now I got it. Yeah, no, that's saloon. I'm all for that. I knew it. Don Lebertard. It's the classic first ballad hall of famer,

the musical part. Okay. It can be a creaking door. Right. It can be an orchestra tuning up before a concert and the bassoon is a little bit off key and it comes out like that. Stugats! The musical part. It's a beauty. It is a beauty. This is the Dan Lebertar show with a Stugats.

This is the Don't Liberty Show with this two cats. We not only have Greg Cody here who doesn't like the idea that he's turning 69 because it's going to be an entire year of jokes. So we won't get to that point yet, but I love the contrast of Greg Cody and Lucy Rodin who just turned 25 or about to turn 25 right. I'm not allowed to ask that question. Yes, I'm sure in 25. Well, what was your birthday? July, you weren't here.

Well, happy birthday. Oh, happy birthday. Do you share birthday with Billy's new daughter? When's your daughter's birthday? July 6th. Oh, I'm in the 12th. Close. At age 25, there are things that you haven't really done that most of us, well, most of me

in my 40s, have done my whole life and you're having trouble with what these days? Now I don't normally feel that young. I feel people tell me I'm an old soul which is very nice and it makes me feel special. I think it's a glasses. I think it's a thrifting and in teaking. Yeah, it's my personality and that's totally fine, but there are sometimes where I feel very Gen Z and I'm in the process of mailing something and it has been incredibly overwhelming. Like a letter? A letter.

Birthday card for my friend Sam. The Friday and Dresses. I have to write the address. How do you do it? Okay, so the name? Yeah. Wait, are you left handed? No.

I got excited That name the streets. I don't be one of the weirdest city in the zip code But that goes up in the corner. I don't know how many stamps I'm supposed to use For car just I don't know the I think I think it's I think it's just one It's just one I had to go I think it's a card. How big is a card in small? One is it one of those like music playing cards? Does it have like a battery pack in the back? No, that would be cool. I believe if it's not good, they send it back to you. I always put two stamps just in case. Even if it's two pieces of paper,

two stamps just in case. If you go to the post office, they'll tell you what you need to pay in postage and then they don't even use a stamp. They kind of just print it and then put it on for you. Yeah, but already have the stamps. I went and I got... Did you get forever stamps years ago like I did? No, I got stamps. I have Buzz Lighter stamps. Nice.

Pretty cool. I thought those were awesome. They were expensive. I'm a bit confused as to where you're going. To the address or to infinity. And beyond. Nice. But...

You crushed it at this segment. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So it's weird. Which hand is that? That your lifting? Thank you. But yeah, I Yeah, so it's me That you're lifting you know, I don't know I'm intrigued by left hand in this. Yeah, it's because I don't know how you get Or not you you're not lefty how they write without like getting their whole hand dirty Well, it's just it's just kind of all tricky and I know they figured it out because there's been left-handed people forever But it's you know how in school they had the left handed desk.

Yeah, so like the world, we did this show before, but there was a study done and the sample is questionable, but the suggestion is that if you're a left handed, you're more likely to die in a tragic, weird accident, then you are if you are righty because the world was designed by right handers. I was just thinking you're more likely to erase the chalkboard as you're writing on the chalkboard, but didn't really think about death. These Buzz Lightyear stamps are like the human Buzz Lightyear, not the cartoon Buzz Lightyear. Am I looking at the wrong stamps?

What? Is it Tim Allen on a stand like? No, it's not like Toy Story Buzz Lightyear. It's like Buzz Lightyear from the light year. It's all in light. What a flop that was. I thought it looked like the just like Buzz Lightyear from Toy Story. I don't know what human Buzz Lightyear. No, no, no, no. What a flop that was. I thought it looked like the, just like Buzz Lightyear from Toy Story.

I don't know what Human Buzz Lightyear is. Well, they like read a magic Buzz Lightyear. But even the reimagining, it was still a cartoon. Yeah, yeah, no, but he was meant to be a person, correct? That then Buzz Lightyear, the toy was based off of. It wasn't. It wasn't Buzz Lightyear without the whole thing on. Is it these green ones?

Yes. Yeah yeah that's not that's not a cartoon that's human that's a human buzz no that's the cartoon that's a cartoon human is this really important conversation no I'm very confused I thought I was I was following along in the story what made it difficult so far well the whole buzz light ear is a human cartoon is completely throwing me off well Well, to be honest, I lost interest when you reveal that you were in left-handed. Oh.

That's fair. That's fine. Oh, man. I don't know where to put the mail. I don't know how to send it. I can relate to this. You put it in your mailbox and you put that, you know the little flag on the side?

I live in an apartment. I don't have flag. Well, no, you receive mail. Wait, you guys put up that flag every time you put mail in there. I've never done it in my life. I do. For outgoing mail. When you have outgoing mail. Wait a second. You guys put up that flag every time you put mail in there. You never know. I never know. I never know. I never know. I never know. I never know. When you have outgoing, you just figure they're going to open it anyway. So they see what's in there. But they're going to be left over. Yesterday's mail. Not if it's addressed to some. The flag is a courtesy to the mail. Yeah. Hello. I've got mail for you. Is it really that much

to ask to look in my box? You're going to be in there anyway. Is it a courtesy or is it what you're supposed to do? It's what you're supposed to do. It's a custom. It's a custom. It's custom. It's custom. It's just how it works. It says the man that's how good.

The man who says CBS doctors can't buy houses. That really, I mean, it is not the rules. It's just reporting. So did you like lick the envelope closed? Is it a stick? A sticker envelope? No, I like I'll do like a little Yeah, I'll do like a little sticker or something, because I'm crafty, I have a lot of stickers,

because I haven't seen Seinfeld, but I have seen the episode. You're crafty, that's actually left handed behavior. They're better with arts and crafts. Yes, really, Sezu. That's the thing. They're also more like that. They're also more like that. They there also yeah there are some more like here there are some more like that really

there are some more likely to be more intelligent than the I suppose at least see the basketball rim bent slightly forward so they can be better shooters what that that's whatever it's not being left handed is is a bit of a hack well I would like to know that now it's been too long I'm right and you can try you can train yourself you've never tried but I don't think it's you too long. I'm right handed. Sorry that I know it's not what you're supposed to be. You can train yourself. You've never tried it. But I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

You haven't tried it. You could do it. I believe it. What would be rad is if you are one of these people that train like in baseball, you see parents. Lefty are more likely to be lefty specialists. They are. Definitely more crafty lefty.

Right. It can be a learned behavior. It can be a learned behavior, but what would be cool is if you learn how to be a left-hander, you all of a sudden become more artistic. Like, wow, I'm all of a sudden drawing so much better now. Yeah, I don't think that's true. That's true.

No, no, I'm saying, look, guys, follow the conversation. I just want you to tell a left-handed people so they don't feel like freaks, right? Like, oh yeah, you're more, you know. I just tell people, it'll be more like Koby Bryant because he was able to use both hands. But Lucy, you can't find where to put the mail. I don't where to how do I get it out? Where do you get your mail from at your Mailbox I have a little

Like a key. Yeah, a little key. They don't have a little slot. They have a lot of mail No, they have an outgoing slot. I didn't see it. All right, so I looked for it yesterday I walked around the mail room. Is there an office manager or something you can ask the question to? Yeah, it was late last night, so I'll probably ask them today, but the problem is that this has been a journey. It shouldn't be this hard to send mail. I mean, you really should just text or happy birthday, but or him. But it's not the same. I think a card means a lot more. It does. Because he sends me cards on my birthday, so I have to send him. Yeah, that's how that works. Yeah, if they do it, you have to do it too. What do you do with the cards? How long do you keep the

cards before you toss them? I keep every card anyone's ever written. Oh really? Shoobocks. Forever? Yeah, a little memory box. You don't want to do that actually. I don't get, I'm young, I don't get that many cards.

You don't want to do that. There's going to be a time where you're doing some spring cleaning and you're having to make that tough decision of whether to throw those away. Just throw them away from the beginning. You never have to worry about that. As soon as Christmas is over, all those cards off my fridge.

It says something nice. We're like, I'm not keeping every wedding announcement I get, or just happy birthday Lucy. But if it's like someone took the time to write something kind, I'm gonna keep it. But it did the job. You experienced it. You're rewatching something.

It's not gonna be the same over and over again, is it? I mean, if it's a loved one that you may lose soon, then you keep that, I would think. I think you're all lying. Who are you trying to impress? You chuck them. Right, you chuck them. Right in the gun. That was like, oh, very nice, very thoughtful, cool. It doesn't take away from how much it meant to me.

Like, this was nice. Thank you for this card, but it's clutter now. It's garbage. It's garbage. It's garbage. It's my brain. It's garbage. You guys are people that cards don't mean anything to you. You just open the card, you look to see if something falls out. You ever get one with the music? And that thing is staying open in your house at every random moment you hear the music playing the worst.

I like a good message in a card, but are you guys going back every month? Let me go read this again. Like no, you read it, you know the message? Carbage. I actually don't even need the card. I don't want to know with the card. Just text me.

Just text me. Just send me a nice message because what I want to know is what you wrote on the card Individually the card could say anything. I've had so many cards that the message is card says it all yeah That does not yeah, I don't mind your friends are probably mainly men Huh, you think you think my male friends are sending me birthday cards? They're probably writing We did my dad made me feel guilty yesterday my mom's birthday today actually happy birthday You think my male friends are sending me birthday cards? They're probably writing. I have text for you. They might or something. My dad made me feel guilty yesterday. My mom's birthday today, actually.

Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Yesterday, I'm over there seeing her, actually having face to, he's like, where's the card? Where's the card? You gotta bring a card. We brought her a bottle of wine from Nashville. We brought her something and we brought my person.

I didn't have to write a card, like, hey, mom. The new birthday card. Is it a card awkward? You sit there, I'm sorry, Mike. You sit there and you stare at the person, read the words that you just said, and get emotional, perhaps, or perhaps not, rather than just being able to tell them those things.

We really don't have to keep this industry alive. It's an outdated concept. What you do is on your IG away message, you just say, happy birthday, mom, and that's it. The card, the card means something. The card means something. To who? Particularly to people of a certain age.

To me. Yes. 25 year olds. You know, do you use a random example? Your mother's other son gave her a card. Greg's favorite. And she was very appreciative. It was, he wrote a nice message on the card.

So you're saying a card is better than a nice bottle of wine. Yes, behind it. No, I was there in person, hugging her, wishing her a happy birthday. When she's drinking that wine, she's not going to be thinking, wow, this isn't as good as the card. She won't remember her game for the bottle of wine. You know what? We're going to lunch on Wednesday. Like, I'm doing things with her. Oh, I didn't know that. Let's go to lunch this time. That's better than a card.

You're a bottle. You're a bottle of wine. You're a bottle of guilt. Just a dearest mother. Just say all the things that you want to say. Now, it means something. I'm delivering you a birthday card in the form of me actually saying

everything that would be a card. Thanks, Mom, for everything you've done. I'm gonna be here with you. You're expensive, too. You're right. They cost eight bucks. Not if you go to the dollar store, that's the hack, go to the dollar store, one dollar cards, no one knows the difference.

Despite my general demeanor. Get a hallmark. I'm also gonna have a hallmark section. They have a hallmark section. And I love getting a card, because we don't get any sort of book. Yeah, all right, so, and that's why I started it the way that I did.

Yeah. I'm old enough to remember when people would travel, they would send a postcard. I know, send my friends postcards. And you still do? I said I want to, but this whole mail for us would really turn me off. Imagine, if you're having difficulty in your own complex, imagine trying to figure out how to send a postcard in Greece. You could use a carrier pigeon.

That's true. I remember, like, my third great teacher sent me a postcard from South African by the time it's weird. By the time it Mrs. Athan, she was a peach, but she was really nice and she also titled it Master Michael Ryan Ruiz because that's like the young form of mister, but by the time I got it, I was already three weeks into school. Okay. This was like third grade.

Who calls their teacher a peach, a third grade teacher. I think it's funny with it Just reference somebody. Mm-hmm. Yeah, she was a real gem. That's that happens I assume Mrs. Athens is no longer with us Why is Mrs. Athens sending postage internationally to a bunch of third graders? She was a little creepy. This happens was super cool because yeah That's what yeah, don't start super cool. Yeah,, no, she let us watch Jurassic we were at Westwood And she let us watch Jurassic Park and the cool Weird she would show slide shows over African vacations. I saw like these two lines tearing apart this hippo

It was pretty gnarly for a third grade, especially in like a Baptist school is crazy. This is science Thank you. Did Mrs. Dyson teach it all her? Yeah, she taught. She's like, she goes on vacation. She taught. No, she taught me to enjoy my summertime. Live, laugh, love, master. Wow. Surprise that teacher could afford a, you know, you're a big patient. I was wondering that too.

What else is going on there? Make you wonder. Little embezzlement. He says, Gamble on by GraphKins.