The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: I Disagree With Your Analysis of My Analysis (feat. Nick Wright)

Episode Date: February 13, 2025

Nick Wright is here to brag about his Washington Post feature story where he's dressed in a Louis Vuitton jacket even though his Chiefs were blown out in the Super Bowl. Hey, did you guys know getting pressure with four is good for a team's defense? Nick is willing to admit Patrick Mahomes didn't meet the moment in the big game, but did Mahomes choke? Also, after Jessica jokes about things being rigged in Kansas City's favor, Nick hurls insults her way. Then, has the Mahomes vs. Brady debate officially replaced the LeBron vs. Jordan debate? Plus, Dan's experience coaching football as a 14-year-old. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Why are you listening to this show? A podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. Tony is angling to be a Nick Wright rival. He says he's trying to incite the vanquisher to bring him out. Go ahead, Nick. What did you think? I saw you waiting and I saw you getting agitated while we were talking. What

are your thoughts? And welcome. Nice seeing you. You too. Well, you know, I was a little agitated, but only because I couldn't hear the content. So I don't know what you guys were talking about. And you and I, you know, I'm a bad texter, but I assume you brought me on. talk about that Bronnie James step back oh is LeBron such a bad dad now oh kid young kid got his sea legs under him out here cooking we don't want to talk about any other alleged goats children on this show I know that but my goodness gracious how are you guys I don't know what else that's basketball season I'm sorry sorry sorry for your loss.

You've transitioned, huh? But you know, oh, you want to talk about the Super Bowl? I mean, you guys are forward. You know, this is new media. It's Thursday. That was the, we're in the 2025 football season. But I suppose we could look back. Dan, I should have known this might happen.

And I'm going gonna show you why. I'm gonna reach behind me and hold up the thing I've always wanted my entire life. Because I'm a child of the 80s. I respect physical print media. Wow, a newspaper. And days before the Super Bowl. It's been a while.

This was in the Washington Post. You see that glorious picture right there? And if my life were a movie that would have been the culmination of the montage of endless winning The by the way, I know I need to tell people who didn't see the blur there that that's a that's a feature story on you Correct as a in a Louis Vuitton jacket.'s a that's a feature story on you correct as a in a Louis Vuitton jacket that's that's your story on me in a Louis Vuitton jacket that I bought from a guy in Copenhagen a year ago to wear to the Chiefs parade about how you guys can you guys can make fun of me all you

want I am an open book on this show. I think one of the reasons I come on this show other than the fact that I love Dan is I think it makes me more humanized. Now do I occasionally imply to the audience I might have a little dispensable income to buy Louis Vuitton jackets from Europe or to gamble? Sure, but the audience gets it. I've deserved it. I've worked hard.

Back to the story. So I've always wanted that. I've always wanted a newspaper article I can put in my office about me and the Times, the Post, something. And the story was, the gist of it was, my career arc and a career theoretically taking off right alongside my hometown Chiefs team took off. It was almost too good to be true. And then it was. And now I have to deal with one of the worst Super Bowl performances of all time, which

I can deal with. But what I am not as prepared to deal with as I shake in preemptive anger is folks that either just started watching football or total morons or just don't care about the truth, acting like, well, if a quarterback's that good, does he ever have that bad of a playoff game? And the answer is yes, every single one of them always. So I'm doing okay. Before you came on, Tony was saying that

because of the one score game and 12 and 0, that the Chiefs could have easily been five and 12 this year okay yeah I mean that's listen that's why Tony's on that side of the room to not really pepper in those I mean I mean the thing is like I like Tony but I'm just telling you yes I I agree that if you turned their wins into losses, their record would have been worse. That's all I'm saying. It's definitely true. Okay, all right. So, but what is the explanation though, Nick? Because I was saying if you

keep playing that game, I think it's going to keep going that way. I don't think my home stuff forgot how to play football. I don't think Andy Reid and Spags became stupid. I think Spags stopped what the Eagles do best and I didn't think that anybody could do that. And what happened after that is just you got mauled the way every team would get mauled if those were the discrepancies on both lines. So here's the thing though. It should those those discrepancies shouldn't have been that it shouldn't have been that big of an edge. The Eagles in the Super Bowl two years ago had the most sacks of any team in 30 years, the or since the late 80s, I should say.

So more than that, the Eagles this year were middle of the pack in sacks and the Chiefs, while they had an issue at left tackle and so they slid their guard over to tackle, it's not like they were the worst offensive line in football. We didn't, we went into the 2020 Superbowl saying, Oh man, you got four backups on the offensive line that could go poorly. And it did. So I credit the Eagles players and game plan and execution. But to answer your question, it's why it went the way it did is

a two-fold reason that we actually oddly have For both of the two reasons about to give you an exact one-to-one Corollary for it, which was the first reason is a very very simple one that not that smart People will say to try to sound really smart which is you know if you can get home with four you really can hurt the great quarterbacks like yeah no shit man we understand the math of the game the idea always imagine if you could get home with one you dropped in like the fewer you have to send and still create the pressure the the better

it is and the other reason is for the first time all year the moment got too big for him and that to me and that includes patrick and people can say oh well that's disqualifying but here's the one to one example. Both of those exact two things to the letter happened in the only other football game of my life, not Greg Cody's life because his team did it, of my life where a team walked onto the field and knew if we win today, we're the greatest team of all time. How did the 07 Patriots unstoppable team lose? They got the Giants got home with four and Brady got shaky and they only scored 14 points. They walked into that game knowing we win today we're the greatest team of all time. We win today, we're the greatest team of all time. How did the 2024 Chiefs lose? Eagles got home with four and the moment of we walk off the field today with a win,

we're not the greatest single season team of all time, but we're the greatest team of all time this three feet. And the moment got too big for him. And so that is what it is. It's heartbreaking that they played their worst game in the biggest moment, but the Eagles deserve credit. And I'm glad you pointed out the thing about Spags. I feel like the only chief, and I'm sure he doesn't, but person involved with the chiefs that could sleep easy

was Spagnolo, who did do a great job at what everyone, myself included, thought the key to the game would be, which is can you slow down Barkley? They didn't slow down Barkley, they shut down Barkley and it didn't matter. Nick, you said earlier that, you know, some of the great quarterbacks of all time

have had a bad playoff game, and you're right, for the most part, Mahomes has had two now, and he's done it in the Super Bowl. He was bad against Tampa, he was bad against Philadelphia twice now, Nick. But we remember, the Tampa game's not fair, right? Like he was running in circles toward his own end zone. He had a rating of 32.3 in the game.

But Stugats, four back up. Let me respond to both of these. Stugats, you care about his passer rating in this game because it wasn't that bad? Or are you going to say, no, I watched the game. I know he played terribly because that's what I would say. But the numbers, look at numbers So don't don't do that Don't be like for this game The numbers don't matter and for the Tampa game that we all saw the numbers do matter because that would be ludicrous However, let's talk about it because this you're right So let's just say the Tampa game was a terrible game and you said most you know, most quarterbacks have had terrible playoff games.

No, all quarterbacks have had terrible playoff games. And we do this weird thing. And this oddly does somehow end up coming down to what all sports conversations come down to, which is the lionization of Michael Jordan's career has polluted how everyone views sports, which is why when Tom Brady was going for the three Pete and he played terribly and Threw a pick six to let the game get out of hand and lost to Jake Plummer

No one cares because it was in round two and Joe Montana Went in the smack dab middle of his career three straight years in the playoffs Three straight one and Duns three straight playoff games with zero touchdowns total three straight playoff games where he back to back playoff games where his team scored three points three straight playoff games where they were outscored by a combined 102 to 40. We can all be like man, Joe cool, never played poorly in the Super Bowl. Well, maybe he would have if he hadn't played so terribly that they got whacked 49 to 3 in round one and so what we're not going to do is act like if you play your worst game of the

year to prevent you from getting to the Super Bowl that's fine but if you play really well to get there and then play poorly that's different that's fine. But if you play really well to get there and then play poorly, that's different. That's ludicrous. That would mean it would have been better for Patrick this year had he choked against Josh Allen last round instead of outplayed him and beaten him for the fourth time in the playoffs. Intellectually, we all know that's true, that each round you win is better than losing in that round. Why't we accept that well that's actually a Michael Jordan story is Patrick Mahomes done I'm glad I'm glad we have I'm glad we have what Michael Jordan thinks about this I didn't think we'd get to that point soon enough

you're red-faced Nick you're're red faced and you're annoying again because you're not wrong in what you're saying, but you're coming on here and you've been so wrong about how that was all going to end that I think people want to see you batted around the way that you were on your own show. So here's the thing. How wrong I was compared to my contemporaries is actually the exact same logical argument the question am I more wrong for picking the Chiefs to make and win the Super Bowl than the folks not naming names but Rex Ryan and others who said they were going to go one and done.

Was I more wrong for having the wrong winner in the Super Bowl when I had the right team in it than Draymond Green who said I've seen teams like this they get beat in the first round. So again like I get it the stage gets bigger the audience gets larger so people have more eyes on it and I and I've got to eat this one. And if people watch First Things First, 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern on FS1, you should check it out. I literally had confetti cannon shot in my face on national television.

I had the runner up of American Idol singing in my ear, Tom Brady is the goat. And I took it like a champ. Because Monday is the day for me to have to eat it. Tuesday is the day for me to have to eat it. Tuesday is the day for me to kind of have to eat it. Wednesday and Thursday are the days for me to once again be take on the heavy burden of the only sane person in sports media and pump the brakes on all the this never would happen to Brady. Brady threw three picks in the wild card round when he was 32 years old to lose to Joe Flacco.

Three picks in the first quarter, 33 to 14. Sorry. I mean, it was obvious what happened in the game, which was the refs made that really bad call on the first drive, the offensive pass interference, and everyone saw, oh my God, they're gonna do this again. They're gonna give the Chiefs a Super Bowl. So the call came from New York.

Hey guys, we gotta make sure now that the Eagles win this game, because everyone's on to us. We can't let them do it again. I mean, it's very obvious what happened there. I'm sorry, you guys didn't have Jessica's mic on. You just had a total doofus talking for a minute there. It must have been, wires must have been called.

The jig is up. We all know it's rigged, right? Like, that's what happened. Mid game, They're like we got it. We got it. We got a read write a new script We got a writer to strip. Here's the thing on that And now I'm I'll just bring the mood of the room down here. We go. I actually think engaging in any of that is Tangibly bad for our business any of that is tangibly bad for our business.

So I don't even, like, I think the, the reason we all get these awesome jobs and platforms and opportunities is because people credibly believe in the sport. And the fact that the players, the owner, the commissioner were all asked about this nonsense leading to the Super Bowl I think was one of the true sour points of this NFL season and and again if we like the the iconic image of this football game is Patrick Mahomes getting two hands dead to the face from Jalen Carter and

it's on NFL.com right now. As like what a play. And so we all know there's missed calls in the NFL. It's a shame to me that the Dove Kleinmans of the world have created this as a legitimate talking point. I need to let you go now, but I think you just called me. I got five minutes. world have created this as a legitimate talking point. I need to let you go now, but I think you just called. I got five minutes.

Well, did you call Jess bad for business? Is that what you just did? It's obviously rigged. I've been saying it all season, Dan. This is something I certainly believe in. So thank you, Nick, for really explaining to us why it's not a good thing. So here's the thing, and I don't mean to be harsh, and I was joking the last time I was on

about Jess being added to the rivals list, but maybe I shouldn't have been. I know you're kidding. I know you're like now patronizing me and like trying to act like I missed it. I know you're kidding. It's very rare a conversation goes on that I don't see everything that's happening in it um I am simply saying I

think even the joking is tangibly bad for our industry so is Jessica individually bad for the industry? No, you called her a doofus. You did call her a doofus. Yeah, name calling. You did a rival. Name caller. Well, doofus is, I think, the kindest of the insults. OK. Throw that on the poll.

All right. What's the meanest? Put it on the poll. No, thank you, Billy. Thanks for all your help there. Put it on the poll at LeBretard Show. Is doofus the kindest of the insults? So let me let you off on the poll at LeBittard Show. Is Doofus the kindness of the insult? So let me let you off on this note.

I wanted to talk basketball. We'll talk a number of different things. But you are choosing, I believe, I believe this is where your ego gets the best of you as it sometimes does for all of us. You are choosing to be right and resolute in your firm, firm belief that that Kansas City Chiefs team is so good that

it would never think itself a lesser team to what it is that Philadelphia was, that if they played that game a hundred times, you couldn't be so wrong that they would lose it a hundred times. But what you're choosing is to tell me that Patrick Mahomes straight out choked. If the moment is too big for Patrick Mahomes, then it's too too big for everybody and I think you're taking the result to do that. I don't think you actually believe that No, so here's what here's what I I don't say anything. I don't believe here's what I believe I believe the in that game the Mismatch what the what played out even though I didn't I don't think it's a on paper mismatch the mismatch between their offensive line and the

Chiefs defensive line was going to win Philadelphia the game Patrick playing his worst game in a couple years is what led it to be a blowout and I when you're saying if Patrick can't handle it, no one can handle it, that's why I brought up the 07 Patriots. Every other team, every other team that has had the weight of a three-peat on their shoulders has crumbled, and every other one crumbled at a stage earlier than the Super Bowl. The closest a team ever came was the 99ers who the third best player on their team on a very normal play just fumbled the ball with minutes left and they lost.

That's how they lost. So that like I I don't think it's an indictment on Patrick, but I do think it's the reality and then every team that has gone for an undefeated season, except for Greg Cody's team, is 60 years ago. Nick, how is that not an indictment? You're saying that Patrick Mahomes choked. How is that not an indictment? He's supposed to be different, Nick. Well, hold on. He can be different than every other active quarterback and different than basically every other all-time quarterback and still not immune to any of this. Like,

I felt Brady choked in 07. Okay, so you're saying flatly that your quarterback, your beloved quarterback, a champion, that his mental strength wasn't strong enough, not just for the pass rush, for the moment. I think the moment got to the entire team. I do. But that's choking. You're saying, instead of saying you're wrong, you're saying your team choked. No, hold on. No, no, no, hold on.

I am definitively wrong. I thought they would win. I thought they would win by 10. I am not running from being wrong about this football game. What I am saying is I I don't look at individual one one-off instances of shit the moment got to us as being an indictment of a player as a whole. The greatest athlete I've ever seen in my life, but choked in 2011.

It doesn't at all change how I view him. Now, and so like, maybe I view it differently than others. Repeated choking is a totally different thing. And that's why I, you pushed back and I pushed back. I don't view this like the 20, I thought Patrick played well in the 2020 super bowl and the stats don't back it up. The video does that to me was not at all anything like this in, in any way, shape or form. But I, yeah, I mean, it's not that I'm trying to slough blame onto them to save myself.

I was the wrongest person in sports media about this game. But Nick, I'm not talking about the game. I'm saying that to say that Patrick Mahomes choked in this spot was not mentally right for it isn't about this game. It's about your having to be wrong about what you think this team is. No, and I, right. And this is where I'm telling you, like, I disagree with your analysis of my analysis. I, I do not think there is. That's a great t-shirt. That is a great t-shirt. I disagree with your analysis of my analysis.

Yeah, I mean, I do. And I haven't said the word choked you keep Then what is what is what you're insinuating Nick? You haven't said it cuz they're your team and to the moments too big for them is saying it like you're just you're just Putting it in rose-colored and rose-colored Homer ism. Oh I reject that as well the moment got too big. That choking. That is choking. That's the definition. Maybe. Say it, Nick. Just say it. You'll feel better.

You'll feel better. Just say it. How is that not the definition? What is the definition of choking? Well, I don't know. Jess, why don't you look that up? You're not doing anything right now. Bane was going to make a really inappropriate joke,

and he decided not to. See you later. Nick, good seeing you. Every day, 3 to 5 Eastern. Bane was gonna make a really inappropriate joke and he decided not to. See you later. Nick, good seeing you. Every day three to five Eastern. Yeah, and so, hey, and subscribe to What's Driving the Great. And lastly, who should I apologize to,

Tony or Jessica? I can't have them both against you. The doofus. I'm good, you don't have to apologize to me. Okay, Jessica, I shouldn't have called you a doofus. I don't want an apology from you. Whoa. We're enemies. Rejected rivals. Rivals. Not enemies. You're right. There's you and the choker. This is unbelievable. Valentine's Day is coming up and for me there's only one place I trust, 1800flowers.com.

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We got a free knee heart away. A free knee? Who is a free knee heart away? I was trying to read fast you do is on the team Luke Jackson Bobby Jones the matrix on Marion two guts so shacks which Parker Chris Quinn D Wade Jason Williams they're all right. I mean stacked roster. This is the down Libertar show with the Stu guards How did everyone think that went he does our job for us when he comes on here he's always entertaining I I really always enjoy Michael Jordan so many times. I just tuned out after that. I just I perked up Yeah, he called Tom Brady a chokeroker which i thought was an understated uh...

nugget well but that can we examine this part of it for a second because i you know i'm going to object to the analysis of a quarterback we were all saying before the game like this is before that game all of us are saying you know what i just saw tom brady go to ten super bowls anyone seven of them is clearly the greatest of all the greatest knowing how to win the mums is coming for a man if he gets this one i'm gonna put him in the conversation is doing it faster

knows that away knows how to win the chiefs were favored in that game because everyone bet on knows how to win there at the empirics of that event on him that's what the money that it that's unusual right it's one thing for gas bags to talk about a game and have an opinion about it where the money goes on something we could definitively look at the analytics and let's get that dominic's foxworth sound so i can ask all of you guys

who it is uh... that you enjoy hearing from on uh... football analytics that sort of corroded the game in some sewage that i know some learning that greg cody and stillugats do not want. But the Chiefs were favored in that game by one point, and America would tell you that that is only because Patrick Mahomes knows how to do something with Andy Reid that other teams simply don't know how to do. Like, you can analyze it all the other ways you want, but they're like, oh, we've doubted them all year. They win those two playoff games. They just beat the Bills. Okay,

they're favored in the game. Then you watch the game and you're like why were they favored and why would it be that obvious? That they should not have been favored and now we all go back and re-examine and do the thing of I agree with your analysis But I disagree of your analysis of my analysis, which I want to be a t-shirt by the way at LeBittar AF.com It's a good it's a good new show. I disagree with your analysis of my analysis is a good name for a show Yeah, a little wordy. Yes, agreed, but funny. I love the wordiness. You're like, guys, everything is accurate.

I-D-A-G, there's too many letters. Still wordy. Yeah. It's fair to say, though, that that betting line, late in the week, went from 2 and 1 half to 1, which is a pretty big drop. There was a lot of late money, smart money going in on Philadelphia. I personally picked the Eagles to win.

I think they had a much better roster, but I reject, as Nick Wright rejected, I reject the idea that just because you lose a game and have a bad performance, it means you're choked. I don't think that's the case. But can I do this with you guys then? Because I really do want to parse something here In in the the biggest game and then put it to bed the the way that the

Analysis works on these games where we're all talking so much about what is and isn't gonna happen What I'm asking you is guys you all told me Everyone said this is a quarterback for all time on knows how to win and now their biggest public fan is on our show saying well on this one time not only do not know how to win he forgot all the things about knowing how to win panicked and then the game was over eric stone street came on so tell me what tell me what that is is that we're going to do is that what we're going to do that to his legacy

that it's one game and all i can on see that and never're gonna do is that what we're gonna do to that to his legacy that it's one game and oh I can't unsee that and never mind all the things that I've thought about for the last three years He choked he wasn't mentally strong enough for a big moment the most predictable narrative in America coming out of that game was that a The cheese dynasty is done and B here come the Eagles the next dynasty Neither one of those things is automatically true. And it wouldn't surprise me if both of them proved to be false. I can't overemphasize that it's sports.

If the Chiefs play the Eagles next week and the Chiefs won, nobody should be surprised. Why does it have to be one or the other? I feel like we're being put in a spot where it's like, well, if he chokes, he's going to be a choker forever. He just didn't have a good game. He choked in this game, but I don't think anyone's questioning his greatness. It's been twice now in Super Bowls where he's had a bad game. Nick was talking about other great quarterbacks having bad games. They weren't in Super Bowls.

They were in wild card games. But he's also won three, who cares? And he's probably going to win again at some point. I think he is an all-time great. I I think that I don't think this impacts his legacy. It only impacts his legacy in terms of chasing Tom Brady. That's it That's it. I just think we're doing like he's never gonna catch Tom Brady How Tom Brady lost to Eli Manning twice? I understand that and Nick Foles Tom Brady's world killers Tom Brady did not play that poorly as poorly as my homes did in This past Super Bowl. In any of those losses.

He's 29 and we're doing the sports media thing where we're judging his career when it's maybe not even halfway over. I understand we need something to talk about. It was a blowout. The game was not that interesting. It wasn't that fun. After the first quarter, we were all like, yikes.

But he's 29. What else can you say other than like, he's probably got like 10 plus years of doing this. Chances are he's gonna be pretty good. I know it's not fun, but that's the truth. It's the truth. It is the truth and it is not fun. And when Billy says, why does it have to be one or another

or the other, I would say that's another good name for a sports show. It has to be one or the other. It can't, when you ask why, no, that's the whole thing, Billy. You don't get argument television, you don't, this is another version of how are we going to morph the LeBron Michael Jordan debate?

Jessica's tuning out on Michael Jordan debates because we've been doing it on 20 years on television. No, and everybody is. Everybody's tuning in, tuning out on Michael Jordan debates because we've been doing it on 20 years on television No, and everybody is everybody's tuning in except tuning out except for Stu got because somehow the last day Look, we'll get tired of any excellence and now it's happened to the last dance It's happened it happened to the Patriots. It happened to the chiefs We will bore with your excellence and now it's happened to Michael Jordan. This is perfect though, right? Because LeBron, his career coming to an end, he's 40, he's about to be done, so we're not having the active LeBron

chasing Jordan conversation. That's done and dusted. We need another active player chasing a ghost. Perfect insert, Pat Mahomes, who's now lost to Super Bowl, and his chase against Brady. I mean, this could not be better for sports media. Maybe all the sports commissioners come together and they script the Eagles in this game

so that we have a new debate topic. Do you ever think about that, Dan? Okay, I- This is good for basketball, this is good for football, this is good for everybody. We're having goat debates across sports. Yeah, he accused us and you of being bad for business. He accused me of having dumb, smart analysis of,

yes, pressure with four changes things. Because that's why I was like. It does though. That was a cheap shot. It does. Good analysis. Yes, it is also true but not fun, and especially not fun for Patrick Mahomes.

But I want to ask you guys, based on the previous conversation that we were having about the nature of anxiety, right? Because the definition of choking is that the anxiety gets to you and you're not able to overcome it. We were talking about this earlier, and I want to ask you guys.

I saw that Colin Cowherd is saying that Kevin Durant has basically ruined his career by the way that his career has played out with some of the choices that he made. But Kevin Durant, when we- 10 years late to that party. Yeah, but I want to ask you about the- Jesus.

I want to ask all of you about the corrosive effects of whatever it is that makes us bore with excellence faster because the way things are just going, where it becomes so pressurized for Kevin Durant that even four years of winning, easy basketball, next to Draymond Green is something he has to say no I don't want to do this anymore don't send me back there. I've told you that you Donis Haslam and Mike Miller said of that four-year run with LeBron that was no

fun like we celebrate like none of that was going to work with joy that was all anxiety it was overcoming anxiety but it was all bad the way that felt and now Nick's telling you do you know how hard it is to do this in the physical sport three straight times because of the drain of whatever the expectations are of every weekly anxiety? I know we think of these people as unhuman, as Tom Brady likes to call them, but these people were fighting through pain to get to the end of things and also dealing with whatever the repressions are of, I don't know when I'm anxious.

I'm supposed to overcome anxious anxious my entire training is don't choke in that moment and now the biggest he had a big ista chiefs fan that there is is on here saying there's a mental frailty there and i'm just on broad was on but i'm just wondering if you guys absorb the nature of the anxiety and what the accusation is when you say one of these people is not strong enough

to overcome these things, because choking, that's what the, you're calling that person weak. It's what you're doing. Well, he's saying he had a weak moment, maybe. We have enough. A weak moment in a time for his legacy in the way we do the measurements. Isn't he saying that they all had sort of a weak moment,

weak game, the coaching staff, every player on the team, and Patrick Mahomes that everybody came out and, and performed poorly because when that's the case and it's the full team and you're being pressured with four, you're probably not going to succeed. That doesn't mean you're a choke artist. Now, I think it's totally unfair to expect athletes, great athletes, to be superhuman relentlessly and not allow them the occasional bad game, albeit even if it comes in a Super Bowl. He's human. People have bad games. Saquon Barkley ran in mud. He had 57 yards on 25 carries.

The part though that bothers me about people have bad games, he had a bad game. There was no quarterback under that situation that was gonna have a good one. He doesn't exist. He's never played the sport. And then we make our examinations after that. Maybe I'll say someone can play a good game because Lamar Jackson might be doing something running around away from defensive linemen that I can't explain or Josh Allen might be able to do something. But those conditions for a quarterback in the Super Bowl, an avalanche for all of them, all of them who have ever played like and you can see it in Patrick's feet in the second

quarter. It's not because he went mentally frail. It's because the Eagles did that to him. And I think that's kind of the part that we were missing with the whole Patrick Mahomes conversation is the Eagles just had a very, very, very elite team. Like top to bottom, offensively, defensively. There were no holes in that team. The one hole they had was probably their kicker, right? Every other position, every other position group is elite and it's like that's the story.

We're talking about Patrick Mahomes But insert any other quarterback and they're having problems with Joshua with BG with all with Jalen Carter with all these guys Thank you, Tony. It's so weird what we're doing We're making excuses and trying to figure out why the Chiefs lost the game. They lost the game because the Eagles are better Well, let me let me ask all of them Let me ask you all of this because that's easy to say now. I just I want to tell you said it before Yes, I want to see you early. Yes. Yes, Greg Cody told you that he predicted the game correctly Yeah, I predicted this game three years. That's right. That's right. He was ahead of everybody on that I I want to tell you guys a story from when I didn't know what I was doing as a like

I'm gonna say I was 14 or 15 years old and I was coaching a football team of you know kids at a local optimist and That season we went undefeated all season because I had a really good quarterback I had the best quarterback and we were one of the few teams that actually had an ability to have a passing Offense but and and we'd beaten one team twice during the season, but this is where I realized that I was a really lousy coach. In the championship game against the team that we'd blown out with all of our fancy passing,

in the second quarter of that game, I fully realized, oh, I don't know what I'm doing. They know all the things that we're going to do, and I don't have any moves, I'm 14 years old. I just had the best quarterback and so now I'm losing by a lot and there is nothing I can do about it. I have no answers I'm just watching it and I'm like how is this happening? That's what Andy Reid felt like on on Sunday. Wow so you choked. Yeah. No I just didn't know enough. I didn't know enough. So you're saying Andy Reid didn't know enough't know enough so you're saying

You choked Leviton choked in the big game 14 year old coach football Back then my entire life We're gonna suit on the sideline did you have a clip? Bike shorts, I've got short shorts tube socks tucked in polo. I did have bike shorts at one point. I knew it. I feel like they were red, right? Respect the game, man.

Wait a minute, I might have the shorts wrong. The coaching shorts. Yeah, the bike shorts. We know, we know. Aren't bike shorts bicycle shorts? No, no, no. Bike the brand. You're right, bike shorts are bicycle shorts.

Like Sophie's. They're tight. The coaching shorts. Yeah, the coaching shorts. Are those synonyms? I'm asking. I've never heard of bike shorts. Every coach has bike shorts. They're not tight bike shorts.

They're the loose, but they're bike brand. Bike the brand. Bike the brand, not the activity. They're like cut off baseball pants. Yes, exactly. Same material, like a canvas almost. It's an important distinction. I was babysitting Frankie Lucido,

and he was an excellent athlete, at least in part because every day we were doing things. Our T-ball team was able, at the end of a season, to actually get the third baseman to throw it to the pitcher, to throw it to the first baseman, successfully to get a kid running from the tee box into the dugout instead of toward first base. Because this is what I was doing with portions of my childhood what part of this are you guys not you weren't eager to get your hand in the

dirt I mean a 14 most kids are trying to play this I was also coaching I was also I was also playing play coach Wow Dandy Reed Dandy Reed were you fired after that game yeah blew the championship game do they fire 14 year olds? Because I feel like... They should have been fired. Yeah. Yeah.

You had the best quarterback. Who had the line Dandy Reed and where did it come from and why was it given to two people at the same time? It came from Malley. Okay, okay. All right. Don't do that anymore. Okay.

Gentlemen. It's a good line. Yes. Malley. That's really good, Dan. You got to let him go. Listen, I don't know. Mally, Dandy Reed. I agree. Look, you guys are you. I I agree. You guys are not questioning the process. I'm questioning the process. What I don't want. Okay. Yeah. While I will acknowledge that Dandy Reed is good. Mally. I don't want from

another room somebody shouting to two of my co-hosts one of whom could be disoriented Yeah at the same time the same line so that they say it at the same time That's is not disoriented Plus he said it first. I was just echoing him I was reiterating what a great line Stu gots came up with thank you so nice. We said it twice Yeah, we can't have that room deciding these things. It's hard enough to wrangle these two on a Wild Billy Thursday without the help of Mally,

who we've just introduced to the audience. Let Mally live. He's apparently an Eagles fan. This has been a great week for him. Even though he's from New York City and also is a Heat fan. And a Mets fan. Which big week for him?

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