The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: I Got Engaged Here Five Years Ago

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:05 Welcome to the Big Sui. Presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants
Starting point is 00:01:21 just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I miss ESPN. I miss it so much. I miss those four letters that got me into every restaurant in America. So yesterday we tried to get a Valentine's Day reservation. We're like, we're going to send Stu Gotz out on Valentine's Day at about 5 o'clock and he needs a reservation in a couple of hours at a very busy place. And once you discover Sue had a terribly forgetting reservations. I wouldn't say necessarily that Stu Gotz had a talent
Starting point is 00:02:12 for getting reservations. Stu Gotz has a broader talent of getting whatever it is that he wants by whatever means necessary. Sleeves disguised as charm, greed disguised as I'm your buddy, Stugatz knows how to get things. I don't know that he's got a greater skill of any kind than how to get things for Stugatz. Yeah, hi, what's your name? My name is Georgia. Hi, Georgia. That's a beautiful name. How are you? Fine. I'm hoping you can help me out. Happy Valentine's Day, by the way. Thank you very much. How's the restaurant doing? Very good.
Starting point is 00:02:53 The restaurant is near and dear to my heart. You know, I got engaged there. Okay. Yeah, I got engaged there. So, you know, I love, I love Hustletown. It's one of my favorite cities. I got engaged at your restaurant. So the city and the restaurant mean a lot to me. I really botched this one up. So I'm hoping, Georgie, you can help me out, okay? Okay. So I was supposed to make reservations at your restaurant tonight and I failed to do it.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And so I've been calling in favors all day. Like I just hung up the phone with JJ Wab. And he said, listen, you can throw my name around and tell him that you and I are friends. I love JJ, he's the best. You like JJ? Sure. So he said, listen, you can throw my name around and tell them that you and I are friends. I love JJ. He's the best. You like JJ? Sure. So he said, listen, if I have to call on your behalf, I will.
Starting point is 00:03:30 But just saying my name there should get you through. And so I'm just trying to get a table for four tonight at 730 if possible. Prime time is. Let me see what I can do. Last minute dinner reservations, they're very stressful. Everything is last minute for me. And so what I told Dan, when it gets down to the last minute,
Starting point is 00:03:47 you gotta do what you gotta do. If I have to use Levitard's name, I will use Levitard's name to get me into a restaurant. If I have to use Will Produce name in Chicago to get myself into a restaurant, I will use Will Produce name, and I have used Will Produce name to get me into a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And so restaurant reservations are really me at my best because I'm doing it last minute and I know I have to lie when I know I have to lie. I'm really good at lying. Maybe you take someone from the 730 category, that range who doesn't quite have the promotional platforms that I have. You bump them down to five 30. Boom. You put me, Luke Longley and Ron Carkev's 730 prime time. I know that sounds amazing but
Starting point is 00:04:28 unfortunately I can't do that. I'm bringing Willie Galtz. You could bring anybody you wanted but I cannot push I unfortunately can't push any reservations that are. What if I brought Barack Obama? I mean I'm friend of a friend I will make a call I'll see if the Obamas have valentines What if I brought Barack Obama? I mean, I'm friend of a friend, I will make a call, I'll see if the Obamas have valentines. But if I bring him in, I got the table, right? Oh, well, you do have a table of 530 if you want to make that like the... Hold on, but yeah, but Barry likes to eat later.
Starting point is 00:04:57 When he says he's at his best, he means, and it's true, he is at his very worst. We have discovered over the years that Stu gots his gross and shamelessness is a mountain of content willing to be made and molded into perpetual labs. But I get my table. He does get his table. Will Purdue never shows up.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Not with roses, a Valentine's Day Chicago. He gets his table though. Stu, is your favorite line to get a reservation, I got engaged here. Listen. I got engaged here. Listen, I got engaged there. Well, you'll save my marriage. What else might be, you know, the end of my marriage? I got engaged there to my wife 15 years ago.
Starting point is 00:05:33 You know, I got engaged there. That's certainly a go-to line. I got engaged here five years ago. This really, this place really means a lot to my wife. We've never been to that city. We've never been to that restaurant, We've never been to that restaurant. But that, listen, those are the keys to getting yourself a reservation
Starting point is 00:05:48 when you're calling 16 minutes before you have to be there on your wife's anniversary. Fake romance. You have to say it's my wife's favorite restaurant. There are dozens of restaurants across this country that think that they are Abby's favorite restaurant. None of you are. All over the country.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Has Stu's Clark University, La Crosse scoring record ever gotten him perks as an adult? Oh God. I am Clark University's all time leading scorer in La Crosse. I hold every record. I mean, I graduated 20 years ago. I still have all the records, every one of them. I am top in points, number one in goals,
Starting point is 00:06:24 number one in assists, points per game. I'm a legend up there. Yes, it's Mother's Day though. I realize we have a thousand reservations. I do understand that, but I don't believe anything good other than Macari has come from Stugatz alleging that he holds a scoring record at Clark University in lacrosse that none of us
Starting point is 00:06:46 believe that is I don't remember the details about that team right I think what we surmised was what was ended what ended up being true there that you do indeed hold the record but it was a series of teams that finished in last place and it was clearly inferior lacrosse. I had a great season, I really did. I had a great season. Our team, one in 10. But I had a great season.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Stume, has anyone ever gotten really mad at you on the phone making one of these reservations? Well, that's a good question. Confused, certainly certainly they're confused. Why is this person talking so long to me? Why is he telling me about Will Perdue coming into the restaurant and bringing roses? That's part of the secret, right?
Starting point is 00:07:34 To keep them on the hook, right? To batter them around, to disorient them. If I say one name over there, one name over here, roses over there, White's favorite restaurant over there, anniversary here, hopefully they're confused enough or they just, White's David restaurant over there, anniversary here. Hopefully they're confused enough or they just say yes. Yeah, that's the whole game. It's all an elaborate kind of torture of like,
Starting point is 00:07:54 like a Navy SEAL would learn this in Guantanamo on how to disorient an interrogation subject. I'm gonna confirm your reservation now. I'm assuming you're gonna be here. Yes. I just need a phone number to put on file Yeah, no problem. I am notoriously great at commitment But let me let me get you this this phone number here. I want to give you the right number. It is nine five four
Starting point is 00:08:14 t-r-o Okay T Y AZ I mixed trot and yazz. They're my two favorite Boston athletes ever. That's how I do it All right, so we're gonna be there.30. We're really looking forward to it. Again, I got engaged there. This means the world to me. So this is unbelievable. And my wife is very excited. I'm assuming it's, you know, I'm bringing all these people and it's comped? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I do think the table for 17 on Christmas Eve at Prime Italian was the one time where someone got mad at me. I said I was making it for Dan. That's right, no, I got mad at him. I got mad at him because the busiest day of the year in Miami at the busiest restaurant, he wanted a table for 17, and he, I've learned, once they get the table for 17, didn't even go. No, I didn't. It was for 17 friends.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And when they asked me the name of the reservation, I said, Levitard. Unbelievable. All right, just need one more thing from me, you to guess. Yes. I do need a deposit. Okay. Let me get that from Dan. Hold on a second Hey folks, happy winter time, you know winter time is a great time to hang out with friends Maybe take a hockey trip. It's what I did with my friends hockey time quickly became Miller time my friends, hockey time quickly became Miller time. Responsibly of course, because Miller Light was made for me and my crew of friends. Bunch of guys that love the taste of beer and don't want to feel guilty about the beer that they're having. Miller Light delivers
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Starting point is 00:10:20 Stugats. All I have put in my body today is three cups of coffee and an entire cup of honey. Don't let him fool you, he said in the break that he's jittery. This is the Dan Lebatard Show with the Stu Gatz! This episode of the Dan Lebatard Show is presented by Venmo. I miss those calls. He needs to try to do that again, resurrect that again.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I want to get to the Kevin Durant news because it's now just sort of being reported as fact that he's not gonna be with the Suns anymore in the off season. I wanted to know what you thought his value was at 37. And I will tell you, I don't know whether and mike ryan got excited for the third or fourth time about kevin durant's availability but i will tell you uh... the miami heater not in that game anymore and it's not just because they
Starting point is 00:11:16 don't want to be in that game it's because all the sons want our picks for kevin durant and uh... kevin durant is going to get a lot of picks. The Suns are starting over because that's the highest payroll ever and the highest tax ever and they have to get out from under because they're not even a playoff team. You can't have the highest payroll ever and the highest tax ever and not make the playoffs. So what's the value of Kevin Durant? He's being talked about as a fit in Dallas
Starting point is 00:11:45 Not that the highest payroll not the playoffs not to play in they're on the outside looking into the play-in This would be the most expensive most Disastrous failure in the history of basketball to pay that much and not even be able to have a chance to play in a little Rinky-dink or take all little tournament to get into the seven or eight seed. Obviously, Dan, the big thing is that Kevin Durant ultimately controls that.
Starting point is 00:12:14 If he says, the only place I'm gonna go is here, again, what we talked about with Damian Lillard a couple years ago, then that shapes the conversation. As far as Miami having picks, they've got, I believe they send theirs this year, but they have one coming from Golden State that's probably going to come in because it's only top 10 protected. And then they have one that they owe to Charlotte, and other than that, they have all their picks. But again, you can go out and get picks.
Starting point is 00:12:44 You can go out and figure out what are the things that you're going to pawn off in order to get what it takes to get Kevin Durant. That's the ask. The ask is picks. I'm just surprised that we're there. Like what a spectacular failure, man. Like that is what a giant failure to have an owner come in. And I know that we are critical of all the things that Miami Heat didn't do, but we were critical at least in part because the Phoenix Suns were doing those things, and those things have not worked. Kevin Durant is a champion, multiple champion,
Starting point is 00:13:12 Olympic gold medalist, probably the greatest scorer I've ever seen, an unprecedented type of scorer with that body type given his range. And I look at his career and I say, what if? I say, what if? Because he's after a Golden State, look, he was the best player on those Golden State teams and Every decision that he has made since deciding that he was gonna leave Golden State has not worked out
Starting point is 00:13:34 And it's not entirely his fault It could be an inch on a shoe or it could be partnering up with Kyrie Irving and that whole thing blowing up the The Nets plan how many games did they play together, their big three? And then the decision to push his way out of there and land on Phoenix, I know Miami was in that mix and ended up losing, but none of these things have worked out for Kevin Durant. He honestly, if he just stayed put,
Starting point is 00:13:59 he'd be talked about on the same level as LeBron, I think. But he didn't wanna stay put. And I think that's the important thing for him was the intellectual pursuit of, yeah, I know I could stay here and it'll be perfect and we'll keep winning, but I don't want to win that way anymore, right? I did it, that was fun.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Now I want to go see, like, can I do it a different way? Can I do it, quote unquote, my way? He was on with Draymond Green on his podcast yesterday or the other day and he said, hey, why didn't you come, why did you veto a deal to bring you back to Golden State? And he said, I don't want to do that in the middle of the year. I mean, I understand how much change and shift happens there. That's something that's going to happen. Let us pursue it in the off season.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Let's go in there with a plan. Let me not land in the middle of the season while you guys are trying to do something I'm trying to do something and I think that all lends to he wants to win in a particular way you guys say though that This has been botched at the end and I just I want to rewind Okay, because we forget what our criticisms are in the moment. I know how popular what Phoenix was doing was. It was really popular the way that Phoenix got into the game. Now, hold on a second. Kevin Durant's career, the choices he made?
Starting point is 00:15:13 When you look at the pressure around these people, Barry Bonds, wherever it is that he was using steroids, it's because he was watching Mark Maguire, Sammy Sosa, lesser players climb above him in all the ways. Kevin Durant got left behind because of the choice LeBron made and then had to make a series of choices, felt the pressure to please us. Like it felt like that's what we wanted from him.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Hey, keep up, keep up with what's happening here. And now we criticize it, but he was trying to keep up with what was happening with the most competitive people of the day after what LeBron built. So the choices he had to make is remember the Sports Illustrated stories of I'm always second place. I'm one of the best there's ever been, but I'm always second place. There was a pressure to keep up with all the things LeBron was doing.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That's why the choices got made. I understand why you think it sounds like I'm criticizing him. I'm not. I'm really not. I, Kevin Durant has made it abundantly clear who he is and what he's motivated by. I'm just bummed that it hasn't worked out for him, that his decision making has been bad or unfortunate. I mean, the Achilles injury too, that's another unfortunate chapter. A lot of this stuff has been out of his control. We talk about
Starting point is 00:16:22 all these stops that he's had. He's been good. He's been the one constant. He's been the one thing that everybody can count on. He's always been about ball. Even when his body has betrayed him, you know that his focus is on ball. He's not a distraction. He's not making waves. Yeah, maybe he pays attention to too much to what people are saying on social media and he's a bit surly, but he genuinely cares about his craft and it just hasn't worked out and I'm bummed for him. The thing with Kevin Durant's career that's funny is obviously he came in a few years after LeBron, but he sort of followed that same model and path, which is LeBron at 26 goes to Miami, goes and wins a couple of titles and then makes choices to go to two separate franchises after
Starting point is 00:16:59 that where it's also worked out. For Kevin Durant, he waited till his age 28 season, but he ends up at Golden State, wins a couple of titles, and tries to do the same thing, make another decision. He doesn't go back to Golden State because it's home and all of the things LeBron had with Cleveland. He tries to create another super team in Brooklyn. It doesn't work out.
Starting point is 00:17:17 So he pivots, let's go to Phoenix, let's see if it works out. He's just surrounded himself with a couple of organizations that didn't know how to build it around them necessarily and stars that didn't compliment him the way that LeBron had stars complimenting him. Jeremy, I'm stunned by something that I think is the first time I've ever seen it happen
Starting point is 00:17:34 in 20 years doing this show. While you were talking, Amin looked at his wristwatch. I've never seen someone on our show do that. We have clocks all over the place here. No, no, no, no. He's got one of those Apple watches. It's probably a text message, right? I thought you made a good point.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I don't know what Dan's doing there. Dan thinks people still look at their watches that way. Very clearly doesn't like you. He just did that. He just, I've never seen, wait a minute, I'm not even directing that at Jeremy. I'm directing it at a meme. You know what?
Starting point is 00:18:03 99% of the time I check my watch, it's purely performative. What were you checking your watch for? I have, as Roy pointed out, it's a smart watch, so when I get alert, like a text message or whatever, it hits me, and so I just check to see who. Brad Williams, number 72. And as we've established, I have a very expensive watch,
Starting point is 00:18:23 so I just try to draw attention to it. We are doing a show live, and I see my co-host do this in front of the cameras. Did you think he was bored by Jeremy? No, I wasn't in front of the cameras, because Jeremy was on camera, because Jeremy was talking. I even locked eyes with Jeremy at one point. I got a little weird.
Starting point is 00:18:39 What I know is that he wasn't listening to what Jeremy was saying. I absolutely listened to every single word he was saying. What are you talking about? You think if I looked that way, oh no, now I'm in another world because I looked in a different direction. Oh no, now I'm back, I'm looking at Jeremy,
Starting point is 00:18:52 now I know what he's talking about. Oh no, now I've looked away. What's happening? It does, Kano, wrap it up though. Like if I look at my watch during a show, I'm like, all right, I mean, I didn't have that feeling. I was fine with it. Let me make it abundantly clear,
Starting point is 00:19:02 I know Amin can listen to me and check his watch. You're falling for it again. He's stirring shit He looked at his watch. I didn't you you're the one that mentioned it you feel about my amazing I mean it was on camera wasn't was it it was We have a preview screen you can't tell the difference All right, it's always been an issue Turned around on me because you search it and you try to walk away like we don't notice and you pit us against each other to create friction on the air.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Look, you're sitting here saying you just got done. I didn't even correct you on this. You just got done saying that an Achilles injury was out of his control when they rushed him back on that team. You've just made this out of his control when he's the one looking at his watch while we're doing the show Well, it sounds like it was on someone else's control. First of all number one. They didn't rush him back He wanted to get back out there. It was a fun. It was made Collectively it was like Katie when you come back like, okay, I guess I'll give it a try That's not what happened and I hate when people do that and then when you say well, no he had a part of people say
Starting point is 00:20:03 Well, you know what players never said well, he's not a child. He knows himself, he knows his body, he knows where he can push himself. It was unfortunate. It wasn't an Achilles strain that turned into a ruptured Achilles. It was a calf strain that also had an Achilles rupture that happened after it.
Starting point is 00:20:19 So we're not gonna do that thing where it's like, he had his arm twisted behind him. Much like we're not gonna do the thing where literally the only human being in the world, We're not gonna do that thing where it's like, he had his arm twisted behind him. Much like we're not gonna do the thing where literally the only human being in the world, because I'm counting the millions of viewers on YouTube who noticed it was you. I, yes, I distracted someone by checking
Starting point is 00:20:38 what the hell that alert was on my watch. The someone wasn't the person who was talking. And furthermore, I know what you're talking about but i suspect that you have no idea because you are so thrown off by me just doing this action right here that what would you really thought it's a rude action what was your me talking was talking about the decisions that kevin durant what what it's more specifically you'll be more specific i'm gonna take a quiz
Starting point is 00:21:02 you distracted me with your watch and now I'm just embarrassed because I really did think you were looking for the time. I didn't think that you were looking for notifications on tweets that you're missing. Not a tweet, I'm not Greg Cody. I'm an actor. I don't have to go to Twitter for validation, Dan. The viewers do.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Hulu, memes and nightmares, catch it right now. You've mentioned that a few times the last couple of days as the movie star that you are. I'd rather talk, can you guys get for me please the call from last night's game because I thought it was a perfect call. You got Michigan State and Maryland at the end of the game. I've enjoyed watching Maryland this season.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Michigan State doesn't have the ball. Michigan State is on defense and the game, I've enjoyed watching Maryland this season. Michigan State doesn't have the ball. Michigan State is on defense and the game is tied. So Maryland's got the ball and you think at home, they've got a chance to win the game with very little difference between the shot clock and the game clock. But what happens after that as a call is a perfect call because of the sound the sound if you
Starting point is 00:22:06 can close your eyes the sound of of the ball going into the basket from more than half court on the buzzer beater to win the game and how quickly the announcers got there with the guttural sound that all of us make when we're stunned was perfect broadcasting. Gotta go! Gillespie for three! Goal or no, Holliman looks the clock! Half court for the win! Oh! Oh my goodness!
Starting point is 00:22:36 Holliman from half court to winning on the road! That sound of the ball, you have to hear this swish from more than half court. The violence of the speed of the ball's travel makes a sound that you never hear with a buzzer beater and then right after that, the announcers. Oh! Oh my goodness! Holabin from half court to win it on the road! There can't be a lot of feelings in basketball better than that, right? Not just making the game-winning shot, but making it from there. Just watching the fly. That's something you will remember for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You'll be at Gene Hackman's age, and you will be thinking about feelings don't get better than that. you'll be a Gene Hackman's age and you will be thinking about, feelings don't get better than that. And you'll remember the sound of the ball hitting somehow, like I guess, back iron and also the net at the same time. It's so loud, it's the way that guys will viscerally remember the crack of the bat on a walk-off home run.
Starting point is 00:23:40 You don't often get that sound on a buzzer beater. Jeremy, that was me at the World Series, game one, right? I'm at this game, big Yankee fan, okay, here we go, we're gonna do it, like, all right, we're gonna steal game one, and then Freddie Freeman, like, I was literally videoing it on my phone. The Grand Slam? Yeah. I was videoing it on my phone, and I heard the crack,
Starting point is 00:23:58 and literally, I can send you guys a video. I stopped recording before I, like, I didn't even look at where the pause, like, it's over. That's awesome. That thing went to Alta Dina like it was gone. I want to play this again and I want to tell you that this is a watermelon being dropped 12 stories into a dumpster. That's not a basketball shot that is is awesome. That is that is that ball is traveling way too fast and heavy You're on to something it absolutely sounds like something heavy thrown into a dumpster like you ever have to take the trash out It's really heavy and you just do this like when a like, like, oh, what's it, the shot put?
Starting point is 00:24:46 You do it a little bit. Can't go for the win! Oh! The hammer throw. Oh my goodness! Oh my goodness! Well, but do you know, I have, one of the reasons that that's so great
Starting point is 00:24:59 is because of all the times that I have listened, 99.9% of the time for the announcer to go into for the win! Not even close. We go to overtime. Because that shot never goes in, but it certainly never goes in after that sound. Let's figure out, do you have a nominee
Starting point is 00:25:19 better than a watermelon being dropped 12 stories into an empty dumpster? Cat's going for the win! Oh! Oh! Oh my goodness! That's not the way a game's, a game winning sound, you want to hear the net. Like the net is what you hear, not the collision.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It also sounds like somebody banging on the side of a dumpster. Caps score for the win! Oh! Oh my goodness! It has an echo. I'm staying with throwing the trash into the dumpster and it hits like the side of the dumpster. You accidentally slam the refrigerator door a little too hard so you hear like the suction.
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Starting point is 00:26:49 store location to learn more. The Boost Mobile network, together with our roaming partners, covers 99% of the US population. 5G speeds not available in all areas.. We pooped that pants killer message you yesterday. This is so dangerous I got to get out of this based on a true story new season Monday's only on W stream live and on demand on stack TV Don LeBataard for weeks months even during the regular season I wondered aloud What Kevin Stenlon did and then about three weeks ago? What Kevin Stenlon did and then about three weeks ago it hit me. Stugats! He gives him one of these and he gives them one of those. This is the Don LeBathardt show with the Stugats!
Starting point is 00:28:02 Mike is there any particular reason that before the show today that you were talking about a Bruins fight from 50 years ago? Yeah, because I had never known about this fight. Did you guys know that there was a fight in hockey that was worse than Malice at the Palace? Yes. Yeah. I had no idea. This was something that had just dawned on me in the hockey chat, Bobba Shoes and put it in there. I had no idea. Really? I had no idea that this existed with Boston Bruins going into the stands and fighting New York Rangers fans.
Starting point is 00:28:29 With skates on. With skates. This is very dangerous. Mike Milberry beat somebody with his own shoe. Ray Bork was on the ice for this game. Not how old Ray Bork was. Thank god it was a shoe. Didn't he throw his shoe?
Starting point is 00:28:42 No, no, he took the guy's shoe off and beat him with it. Who throws his shoe? No, no, he took the guy's shoe off and beat him with it. Who throws a shoe? Honestly. Honestly. One of the great videos that we've ever shown So grainy. was the reflexes of George Bush
Starting point is 00:28:54 avoiding a thrown shoe as an insult. I was not aware until that moment that the thrown shoe was an insult, although I could have inferred it. I can't imagine how clunky and awkward it is to climb the lower level while you're wearing ice skates. But I guess a stick also helps you maintain your balance. It's like climbing Mount Everest. Yeah, you have the hockey stick, but you have lethal weapons not only in your gloves, but also on your feet. I would not want
Starting point is 00:29:21 to fight a hockey player under any circumstances even if they're wearing their full uniform and were on dry land. You believe that hockey players on on skates can't walk around or run around the way that the rest of us would in running shoes because they are always in skates and know how to treat it as their foundation? I imagine they're a lot better at it than I but this presents its challenges. There's beer on the floor. If I were ideally if I were to fight a hockey player that was in full uniform I'd say sand. Let's fight in sand. It's a good choice. Yeah because everyone's lighter I could lift them up. No but then the no absolutely not in the pool because they have those razors on their feet.
Starting point is 00:30:06 They'll bleed out faster. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a terrible suggestion. No, that's a good one. We're going shoreline. Let's talk this out. The PK Subban sound, that's what made it so objectionable to me, Mike. You really don't like him.
Starting point is 00:30:20 But it was just like, come on, man, you cannot have this big of a blind spot. And someone said to me, well, he's just defending his sport. I said, no, no, he wasn't defending his sport. He was taking shots at our sport without any of the context. And that fight, Mike, is one of the examples. It's like, yes, that can happen in hockey. I'm like, well, that was a crazy Tuesday night.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And in the NBA, it was culture wars. Assault. I'm sure if that happened today in hockey. It wasn't at the 70s. It would just be like, oh, that was fun. 70s. Do you think there would be as much of a reaction from people to arrest the players?
Starting point is 00:30:54 No, I don't. The Kachuck brothers went into the stands and started beating on Canadians. Yes, I think that there would be, I'm not saying it would be the same, there's a lot of cultural stuff going on here. I remember in the Free State of Florida. I'm not saying it would be the same, there's a lot of cultural stuff going on here. I'm not saying it would be exactly the same, but to say that we would just be like,
Starting point is 00:31:10 oh, Connor McDavid and Kachuk went into the crowd with their skates on and started attacking fans, that would be a massive story. Chris, let me put it this way. If Connor McDavid and Kachuk start fighting in the middle of the ice. That's a Tuesday night, I'm with you. All right, we can't do that in our sport.
Starting point is 00:31:25 That's fair. See, we were talking about going into the crowd. But I'm just saying, it's a double standard, right? So what's acceptable? Whatever the penalty is, if that happened today in hockey, of them going in stands, it would be less than what the penalty would be if it happened in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Martin McSorley was found guilty of assault with a deadly weapon on the ice. Like that, I'm old enough to remember that scandal in that sport. It was huge. Did they have to change the entire sport because of that? I haven't seen it since. Did they have to change the sport?
Starting point is 00:31:57 I'm not saying if they have to. You're asking me a question I'm not fully informed on. I think Amin is, to just boil down his point into something more simple, black people are treated differently than white people. Or seen as more threatening in video where people are fighting the Kachaks are not The same as Stephen Jackson and we noted Donald Brashear was the victim in the Marty McSorley thing and Marty McSorley Marty McSorley never played again Okay, I'm asking you guys today everyone in hockey have to start wearing suits after that and did they band wearing?
Starting point is 00:32:24 That's my point. Like they changed. The New York Gollander's. Well, the baggy white tee just is not practical. You have healthy scratches too. You don't just chill on the bench when you're not playing. You do realize why this is so personal to him, right? He had a team that was championship worthy
Starting point is 00:32:37 that got derailed by the rule changes forced by Amari Stoudemire taking a step off the bench once they changed all the rules. I got it. Well, all I'm maintaining is that has more to do with 1979 than it has to do with the sport. Well, we didn't talk nearly enough about how grainy the footage was that we were watching back in 1979 because if that was the video that we had in the modern day, if it was that
Starting point is 00:32:57 grainy, if it looked like it came from the Jacksonville Jags facility, we wouldn't air it anywhere nationally because the footage is too grainy because the televised sports were so shitty. It never looked that bad. As someone that had a square TV and was watching stuff in standard deaf, those TVs were made for that stuff. I think it looks worse because we're digitizing all the video, right?
Starting point is 00:33:16 Dang, you're absolutely right. Our screens are to blame. They're too good. They point out all the imperfections. Whereas if this were still a regular old-school tube, that would have been clear footage. Think about how good, they point out all the imperfections. Whereas if this were still a regular old school tube, that would have been clear footage. Think about how good people thought this looked at the time.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Like you're like, wow. You get a new TV, you turn it on, you're like, wow. It didn't look like that. I know I'm gonna sound like the old guy. It didn't look like that because It didn't look great though. The screen wasn't good enough to show those imperfections. So because the screen resolution wasn't good enough,
Starting point is 00:33:44 it looked fine. The problem is our modern screens are so good that now you're seeing all the little imperfections that before were just blended in by the terrible resolution. Glad we figured that out. Word line, because every time I watch this, I'm like, I was there for that. That did not look that bad.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I wanted to discuss with you guys, after seeing Paul George get dragged yesterday, a whole lot of people making fun of him for canceling or postponing his podcast, which is very popular and has been good, at least in part because he gets very good guests to open up. But he said he is concentrating on working on his body and chasing a championship that the Sixers have no chance of getting. But the thing that I wanted to talk to you about, because we have talked a lot about
Starting point is 00:34:30 how shitty the podcast business is for most because of how over saturated it is, and everyone thinks they can do it and do it well, but people do forget that it requires a constant intake of content that it requires a constant intake of content that can become a pressure, it can become very difficult, it can become for some of these YouTube influencers,
Starting point is 00:34:52 a total life consumption because you have to keep feeding the machine. So Kendrick Perkins has said of the Josh Hart and Brunson podcast that if that was his locker room, those guys would have smoke with him. He wouldn't if that was his locker room, those guys would have smoke with him. He wouldn't allow that in his locker room that those guys need to stop doing that podcast. Now Paul George, because they're so bad and I'm imagining it's taking a lot of his time is checking out on his podcast for the moment, which is successful.
Starting point is 00:35:19 What are your thoughts there? And Travis Kelsey says podcasting is the hardest job in the world. Like I do wonder if you have an honest conversation with Jason and Travis Kelsey, if they're running from place to place in a way that's making them wonder if they should have said yes to all the things, because of the amount of responsibility that comes when they start paying you that kind of money. So, when I first saw the excerpt, I didn't see the video. I saw a picture of Paul George and the excerpt, Paul George is going to take time off from podcasts to focus on winning a
Starting point is 00:35:47 championship. I swear to God I thought it was NBA Centel. It was such a ridiculous headline, rest in peace, we'll get to that in a second, such a ridiculous headline. Dan, I'm gonna tell you right now, I was less believing of its reality than I was of Luka Dantjic's Get Straighter to the Lakers. Straight up. I was like, absolutely. This has to gets traded to the Lakers, straight up. I was like, absolutely. This has to be the onion. This has to be a spoof.
Starting point is 00:36:08 To concentrate on a championship, you could have said postpone the podcast. It was the part about concentrate on a championship. Absolutely. And so we taped oddball and we're done for the day. And then literally as we're getting up, I see it on my phone and I'm like, this isn't real. And so then we start scrubbing and looking for,
Starting point is 00:36:25 and there's video, and he says it, and I said, geez. It's AI, you think it's AI still, you still don't believe it. Allen Iverson? Yes, it was Allen Iverson all along. Dan, it's not because it's all consuming, it's because what we've been saying all year long, for him particularly, is,
Starting point is 00:36:42 buddy, your individual season and your team season is not going great. Put it like, have some guest hosts fill in till you guys get this thing back on track and then come back. Think about everything that's happened this season. Joel Embiid injured to start the year. Joel Embiid shoves reporter in locker room.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Team meeting called where they call out Joel Embiid. Their awful season there they're losing the injuries everything that's happening and poor george throughout the role was like let me do let me do it now let me do show they would be shows there were like the worst contracts in the nba you want to do the worst contracts in the nba issue issue about that
Starting point is 00:37:22 that is so you want to know that? They're like Bleacher Report slideshow episodes. But like of all the things, it would be like Zion Williams having a podcast and say, hey, who are the most out of shape athletes? You want to have that conversation? Really? Right. It was just a lack of self-awareness combined with contextually you're not having a great year. Sit it out. So for him to now at this point, when it's all said and done, they have a bottom six record which is key because they keep their pick if it's in the top six of the draft. Joel Embiid might be done for the year, he's going to undergo some surgical option that might have him late to come back next season.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Everything is put into rest, we're measuring the coffin, we're booking the funeral arrangements and now he's like, got focus on the championship, boys! It is weird. What? Yeah, I don't know if you guys noticed yesterday in Houston, the oldest woman in America died, Elizabeth Francis, at 115 years old. She died without seeing-
Starting point is 00:38:17 Collecting social security for another 40 years. She died without seeing Joel Embiid get to a conference championship. 115 years old. The Sixer fan she was? The idea that the Phoenix Suns could be as bad as they've been and not be the biggest disappointment in that league
Starting point is 00:38:36 because of how much we love the splashy transaction. I remember Mike Ryan and many others celebrating how great Darrell Morey is at getting the guys because he does get the guys, but that Sixers season. Splash. That being that bad, good timing. I expected you to play the Gene Hackman sound. I expected you to play the Duvall sound 10 seconds late.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Confirm and. Is it, the Sixers season is an apocalypse. It's no one could have seen this coming, right? You could see Joel Embiid hurt, but you'd still expect Paul George and Maxi to do something. You say it's the apocalypse. I say they are in the midst of the best chase in the NBA this season, Dan,
Starting point is 00:39:21 for the 10 seed in the Eastern Conference. Do you know where we're at with that at this point? It's basically a three team race when you look at it between Matas, Buzellas and them boys in Chicago. You got someone, Killian Hayes I think, playing for the Brooklyn Nets these days. That's pretty crazy. And Tyrese Martin.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And then Paul George and Tyrese Maxey and the Philadelphia 76ers, all of them are two and a half games apart. You got Buzellas and the Chicago Bulls along with Josh Giddy, who's having a crazy few game stretch. They're the 10 seed right now. Technically a playoff team, Dan, they're 13 games under 500. The Philadelphia 76ers themselves are 20 and 38 and could end up playing a first round
Starting point is 00:39:59 series against the Cleveland Cavaliers. My favorite website around this time of year is this site called Tankathon. And it basically gives you all of the reverse of what you would imagine, right? So they've got worst to best, and then the more you're losing, you get a little green highlight, and the more you win, it turns red.
Starting point is 00:40:19 So for instance, the Brooklyn Nets, they've won seven of the last 10 games. That's bad according to Tankathon. But the Philadelphia 76ers lost nine in a row. That's really good. This team is not going to compete for a 10-team, Jeremy. You know why? Because it is in its best interest
Starting point is 00:40:36 to be awful at this point. Well, of course. You gotta keep that pick, and that's what they're gonna do. They're already doing it. You don't lose nine of the last 10 games on accident. They're doing it because they need to keep that pick. So that Bulls Nets race is gonna be electric. You know the Bulls are gonna get it.
Starting point is 00:40:51 This is their sweet spot for the last five years. They're like, we got good attendance, we're barely making the playoffs. Oh, we just fell short. Too bad, we're not gonna change anything. Dan, you know what the best part is? You know what happens if that pick isn't top six? If it's like, say seven? You know where it goes? No. Oklahoma City. Dan, you know what the best part is? You know what happens if that pick isn't top six, if it's like say seven?
Starting point is 00:41:05 You know where it goes? No. Oklahoma City. Oh, dude, God. I hate them so much. Can you guys look up for me, please, the worst team to ever make the playoffs? Because I have not heard of an 18-game-under-500 team
Starting point is 00:41:18 making the playoffs. So if you can look up for me, I remember the Royals one year made the playoffs and may have won the World Series as largely a 500 team or quote, but 18 games under 500 that that I mean, I know a lot of people say that the playoffs have too many teams in them, but that's an, that's asinine. What you're saying. What what you're saying is patently ridiculous. Like when that team season ends, it needs to end. You don't want that to be undead.
Starting point is 00:41:42 That needs to be dead when it gets to 82 games. Dan, in the modern era, so I'm not gonna count the stuff that happened in the 50s and 60s, that's just ridiculous, but 1984, the Bullets made the playoffs 35 and 47. 1986, the Spurs did it with the same record, 1995, the Celtics did it. You can't be 18 games under 500 and talking about a championship.
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