The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: 'Is It Human' With David Samson
Episode Date: December 10, 2024Before we get to our brand new game show with David Samson, he has some more inside thoughts on the Juan Soto signing as well as Nick Turturro's reaction to Soto leaving. Then, it's time to find out i...f David Samson is capable of feeling human emotions. Has he ever felt love? He watched WHAT movie after his daughter was born? Does he feel lyrics in songs? Also, Greg Cote is upset that the Classic Era Committee has gone over the heads of the BBWAA to elect Dave Parker and Dick Allen to the Hall of Fame. Is he more qualified to vote for the Hall of Fame than Joe Torre? Plus, we go back to David for more Izzy Human, Stugotz wants us to buy the FIU football team and we have the age old discussion about whether superstars should play in bowl games. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I want to ask everyone here,
when I give you this list from Matt Warren of
people who have more or fewer rushing touchdowns than Josh Allen, and the list is OJ Simpson,
Herschel Walker, Terrell Davis, Jamal Lewis, Legerit Blunt, Roger Craig, Tiki Barber, Chris Johnson, Arian Foster, Nick Chubb, McAfrey.
All of those names are surprising to you, no?
Like every last one of them is surprising, no?
Except LeGarrette Blunt.
Yeah.
LeGarrette Blunt scored like 20 touchdowns one season.
He did.
Yeah.
So did Rohan Mostert.
Led the NFL touchdowns, I believe.
And McCaffrey's not that old.
I mean, McCaffrey still has his time.
I feel like McCaffrey has led the league
in touchdowns a couple of times.
How does he have fewer rushing touchdowns than Josh Allen?
But he's been hurt a couple of years as well, yeah.
So, Terrell Davis, not that surprising,
considering that injuries cut his career short.
Otherwise, he'd be far ahead of Josh Allen.
The one that really surprises me, shocks me,
is OJ Simpson, that's crazy.
Yeah, we're going to get to this game
that I don't know what the name of,
whether it's Is He Human or Is It Human?
So in 2016, LeGarret Blunt had 18 touchdowns,
that is the only season he had double digit touchdowns
of his career.
Okay, thank you for that.
We will get to either is it
human or is he human in a second, but Samson give me the rest of the Soto
stuff that we didn't get to yesterday because, and I've banned Mike Ryan today
because college football has indeed hijacked this show for the last eight
days and we needed to talk about other stuff and so Mike Ryan banned today and
we've got more baseball and basketball and old guy presence and a shirt that's older than everybody
who's here because we're trying to have some range today. Give me some more Soto
stuff that we didn't get to. Yeah I just want to point out that when you do not
get a player like Juan Soto you have to start with a strategy and Brian
Cashman came out and wanted to compliment his owner for the effort that they made how
Uncomfortable they were going to the heights they went to to keep Soto
But when pressed about what's next he basically did not hesitate by saying we will improve the team
We just don't know exactly what that is and there are still top of the board free agents available with Corbin Burns and Max Fried even on the hitting side Teasca Hernandez is out
there Christian Walker and will the Yankees reallocate the money that's
what everyone wants to know but who would make Nick Turturro happy and I'm
gonna tell you this right now looking at his second video his house is a damn
mess look at the background of where he shot that video.
That's not John Turturro directing.
That's like a selfie showing that he hasn't put his clothes
away like some sort of hoarder.
So I believe that that sort of personality
will never be satisfied because he doesn't even remember
how he felt when Garrett Cole turned his hat around
and put a Boris hat on after winning the World Series
and then went to the Yankees from the Astros.
So for me, Mr. Turturro is a little inconsistent
and I would dismiss his ranting.
You didn't need the judge's house.
He doesn't look like a hoarder
just because you're a neat freak.
Just a laundry room.
It's not fair what you're doing to him there.
Look at the counter space.
The laundry room's in the background.
You're a neat freak.
David's right.
Plus Nick DeToro had a plant growing out of his head.
He's like.
Um.
David, I have one quick question.
David, here's my question for you.
Are you in a dungeon right now?
Is there like someone on a rack being tortured
just off camera?
It's a visual joke. It's better that way quietly without anyone mentioning it.
Let's play our game show now because he's confused.
But he doesn't know that Samson is just in the same room that he was in when we were doing press conference content from pretending it was from a dolphin game with him.
He thought Samson was joining us from a dungeon in New York.
We tricked your father into thinking
that Samson is in a dungeon somewhere in New York
as opposed to right here with us.
Wait, he's here with us?
In fairness to Greg, it is jarring
to see a plant growing out of someone's head.
He's thrown off by it.
Let's go out to David Samson,
who now joins us clearly from Burbank, California and the game show set
Because he has moved from the Dungeon Town
Where he and Jeremy are gonna play the game is it human or is he human?
Let's see the sound that executive producer Chris Cody is selected.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to play... Is It Human?
David Samson.
Go ahead, Jeremy. How many questions do you have for David Samson? Take it away.
Dan, we have more than enough questions for David Sampson. Up to 20 questions for David Sampson about life and about love as we play a game of Is He Human with David Sampson.
David, your first question. A player on your team asks to miss some time for the birth of their first child,
but you're in a September playoff race.
What do you do?
Absolutely not.
Have her induced on an off day, obviously.
Judges?
Yeah, that's absurd.
The Marlins are in a September playoff race.
Get out of here.
It's not human, not human in any way.
Number two, question number two.
Now we're gonna move over to the love category, David.
David, what's the number of times in your life
that you have felt loved?
Judges?
Oh wow, nothing?
It's a moment of silence.
You just stared blankly ahead. Wait a minute, wait a minute. A moment of silence. Nothing? Stared blankly ahead.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
A moment of silence for those loved and lost.
You have never, never felt love?
Jeez.
Okay.
This game's going great.
Wait a minute, you've never felt love?
That can't be real.
You've never felt love or felt loved? There was that time in college,
the first night of freshman year,
when Valita Van Horn loved me, I thought.
That's not a real name.
That's all made up.
McGillicutty.
The third question.
That is her name.
You're at Grocery Store Checkout, David Sampson,
and they ask if you would like to round up for charity.
What do you do?
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Nope.
Oh, no.
Judges?
David, you don't have to, like, you could just be like,
you round up sometimes, David.
Come on.
Listen, people know, so I'm not going to let you do this to me.
I'm very charitable.
But don't talk to me about the roundup.
I'm not interested.
I want to give charity, which I do, and raise money by all the things I do.
I don't do the roundup.
Not the bar and Davey either.
David Sampson, question number four.
What is the most emotional moment that you have had with one of your children?
The time that I, when they, I do remember this actually.
Well so.
There was that time that the kids had the,
oh when they got into college.
Oh no, that was a good one.
Making it up.
College, good one.
Judges?
Not human.
Yeah, no that is human, that is, no that's human.
What do you mean that's not human?
That's the only time, when they're born, nothing. Those details. No, no that is human. That is, no, that's human. What do you mean that's not human? That's the only time.
Just not believable.
When they're born, nothing.
Oh.
No, that was a good one.
Touching.
Yeah.
The responsibility of raising a child, I'm sure,
was very exciting for David Sampson and the mess.
My first, when my first child was born,
I remember leaving my wife then at the time in the hospital.
I went back to my apartment and I basically looked
at the doorman and said I am screwed and I went
upstairs and I watched a movie. That is a true story. After my first daughter was born
I was so freaked out.
What movie?
Yes, two movies, Billy. But the first movie I watched was a movie about childhood called
She's Having a Baby and I remember this so well because I thought it would help inform
me what to do and I didn't know what to do so I just never went back to the hospital until like I was forced to.
That day?
It was that.
It was no she was born at 9.53 p.m.
David, real quick, how do you spell Belita Van Horn because I'm trying to Google her
to ascertain whether this is a real person.
V-E-L-E-E-D-A-V-A-N-H-O-R-N maybe an E maybe not I get confused with Dave Van Horn no relation.
What was the second movie you watched
on the birth of your child and what is,
did you have any positive feelings
with the birth of your children
or was it all fear and responsibility?
It was all fear and responsibility
and I believe it was a Jenna Jameson movie.
Whoa.
Keep going, Jeremy.
I appreciate the follow-up questions
from the judges here, David.
You're on an airplane, and a couple asks
if you will switch seats with one of them
so they can sit together.
What do you say?
Is it an equal exchange, I always say.
Is it aisle for aisle or window for window?
Sure.
Must it be?
Judges?
Yeah, must be.
Must it be?
Does it change the answer? I'll only do, must be. Must it be? Yeah.
Does it change the answer?
I'll only do an even switch.
Because frankly, half the time when a couple says that,
one of the parts of the couple doesn't actually
want to sit with the other.
So I'm being actually doing a favor.
That's a made up stat.
That's a made up stat.
Nah, I think he's right about that.
Half the time.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's half the time,
but there are times where that person does it,
they're thankful that you did not change the stat.
This one's human for me.
This one's human for me. This one's human for me.
It's human.
All right, what really, it's gotta be an equal change.
You will not, if someone asks you,
you will not go window to aisle.
I will not go aisle to middle, that's for damn sure.
I'm pretty sure my dad one time denied
a mother and a small child.
We were traveling with like a big family trip
and like a mother and child asked you to switch
and you wouldn't do it.
It may have been that aisle situation.
I'm beholden to the aisle.
I won't give up my aisle.
Now I will go aisle for aisle.
I'll do the even.
But it was like a lady and her young child.
That's not my fault.
Yeah, but he was going to get stuck in the middle seat and that's not fair to Greg.
You want to sit next to your child, buy a seat next to your child.
How about that?
I got a three hour flight.
I'm going to sit in to your child buy a seat next to your child about that. I got a three-hour flight I'm gonna sit in the middle. Oh no
episode 2 of is he human starring Greg Cody
An aisle for an aisle I feel like Izzy should be the host of Izzy human
I feel like that would be the way why did I come into is it is it it's fine Jeremy
Keep going Jeremy. How many people do you trust, David?
It's a great question.
It's hard to get my trust because all I am is disappointed.
I used to trust Dan, and that has really fallen apart since I started Metalarc.
Same.
Well, did you know him well before?
No, but I trusted him.
Yeah, it's a thing.
It's ruined my career?
Yeah, but you started a place.
No, your career's just starting. Don't be nice, David. I trusted him. Yeah, it's a thing. It's ruined my career? Yeah, but you started a place. No, your career's just starting.
Don't be nice to him.
I'm standing.
No, I don't trust many people
because why would I set myself up to be disappointed?
It's way better not to trust anyone
and then you feel good all the time.
Judges, the answer's zero?
You trust zero people, the answer's zero.
Are you telling me that you trust anyone without verifying?
Yeah, I trust my wife that way,
I trusted my brother that way, yes.
To nothing you.
OK, so nothing for you.
You don't trust Jeff Konine?
David, Jeff Konine, you own a bus together.
You can't trust your partner.
You got to verify.
The Niner.
All right, thank you, Greg, for that contribution.
We will come back to the game show that is
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feel like just because Is He Human is absolutely a show that has legs here. Thank you Stu.
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Oh, I like firing people.
So I take the opportunity to fire whenever I possibly can
because I can use it as a learning experience for them
and try to help them out
and try to point out what they did wrong.
But in this case, the employee was enough levels below
where I was that I did not do the firing,
but I had it done within moments of discovery.
I'm just like firing people.
It's just absurd.
It's absurd.
Stugats.
I'm talking about people who I fire who deserve it, who have done something that actively
requires me to fire them.
It is my unadulterated pleasure to do so.
This is the Don LeBattar Show with the StuGats.
We are not done, Greg.
We're still doing show.
We've got 25 minutes in the segment.
That clock right there, it's been there for a long time.
It helps keep you on track if you pay attention to it.
It's big red numbers right there in front of you face and we've got 24 and a half minutes left in this
It did feel like an ending the game show was over. It did it felt like an end. Yeah, I took my headsets off
Just just the clock is right there in front of him it's place
They're not in front of me. Sue gots is in front of me. Okay's placed there. It's actually not in front of me.
Sue Gotts is in front of me.
Okay.
You know, he should have a clock on his head.
Go ahead and find the footage for me of how it is
he just took his headset off
while staring straight at the clock.
And we will show you what Greg Cody does.
Greg Cody is a bit angry today
because I don't know, Chris Chris as I ask you this question if
there's anything professionally that gives your father more personal pride
than his baseball Hall of Fame vote and he is mad at the Veterans Committee for
forsaking what it is was the writer recommendation on who should be in the Hall of Fame by putting a sick David Parker in and Dick Allen. He doesn't
think those two should be in because they're going over the head of the
sports writers who vote on the Hall of Fame and they're saying we don't care
what your opinions are on this we have Veterans Committee power to basically
veto what Greg Cody thinks with his vote. right that's exactly right it it it used to be called veterans
committees not call the classic era committee for some reason but they're
usurping and disrespecting the vote of the bbw a members and i think there's
like two hundred and seventy of us like it's a big group whose collective
decision is if you get seventy five percent you're a hall of famer if you get seventy four point nine maybe next year
and and now this committee every year is letting in
guys who were deemed not hall of famers back when they were
actually on the ballot not on this made up you know age
appropriate ballot but but right after they played
and to give you
an example keep in mind you gotta get seventy five percent when dick allen was
on the actual ballot the most he ever got was eighteen point nine percent wow
okay so not even close not even close right park was a little closer he got
twenty four point five percent at some point you gotta trust the people who
are actually doing the voting
after somebody's career
you know day parker hasn't had a hit in twenty years
you know he didn't get any better
and and i'm not singling these two guys out because they're both borderline
hall of famers they you know maybe they should have gotten more votes in their
time you are singling them out though they're the guys who got in who are
making angry over the guys who got in
this week like most recently that Greg wasn't
alone like a lot of people don't feel like you know Dick Allen day Parker
should be in the Hall of Fame and to have a next level of defense for those
guys after the Hall of Fame voters have said no we don't think is a Hall of
Famer is kind of ridiculous I think it demeans the Hall of Fame to to have your
main voters overridden by this very small group I think the demeans the Hall of Fame to have your main voters overridden by this very small
group.
I think the Classic Area Committee, I think, has seven, eight members.
I could be off, but it's a very small number.
And when you have that few number, you're very susceptible to skullduggery.
Like if there's a member of that committee, you know, and you're Dave Parker,
you know, and you go, and I'm not saying it happened.
But...
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless.
Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.
You're good.
I think Joe Tory might be on the committee as an
example, okay? If Joe Torrey has managed
or played with somebody who is also
under consideration, that's a conflict of
interest. So you're saying you're more
qualified to vote on the Hall of Fame
than Joe Torrey? Yeah, yes I am. He is. He
doesn't have the conflict. I'm more independent. You asked Michael andre. Yeah. Yes I am. He is. He doesn't have the conflict. I'm more
independent. You asked Michael and I. Yeah yeah I'm interested in your opinion. I
don't follow it necessarily but I'm curious if you don't want me to I'll
stop doing that. Yeah. He gets so mad at me every time I do that. He is so funny every time. Every time. The fact that he asks you guys for your Hall of Fame opinions,
he does use your opinions
because you watch more baseball than he does.
Then he says, if you don't want my opinion,
I won't ask anymore because he's trying to bequeath upon you
the same pride of Hall of Fame voting that he has,
which you don't have because you don't respect anything
your father hands down to you,
including that shirt, which is gonna be in his will.
Right, no, the shirt won't, believe me.
You're taking that to the grave, huh?
I'm going to wear it.
We should bury him in it. We should bury him in just that shirt.
In the deck shoes.
I don't think Chris, I don't think your sons realize just how lucky they are. I would love
if my dad had a Hall of Fame vote growing up and he would come home and ask me what
I thought. Yeah. That is amazing.
Oh no, I honestly take pride in it. I study the names, I try to give him the best answers
I can, but I see he has a vote, so I'm thinking, oh man, these votes that people have.
I take my vote very seriously and you all can make fun of it all you want. When I say
that I'm more qualified than Joe Tory, obviously I mean I'm more independent than Joe Tory. Well, that's not what I asked you.
I asked you if you were more qualified and then you said you were and you are making the
distinction I'm less biased than Joe Tory. I think independence, independent thought, is a big part
of qualification. Okay, I pour over these names. Okay, I spend hours going over this
Hall of Fame ballot and I don't want to eliminate anybody who doesn't deserve to get in
So I take it very seriously. I don't just fill out the ballot willy-nilly in 20 minutes. I research it
I research you're not having any fun with this. You're taking this very serious
What a job. Yeah, he's been giving me I mean in Greg's defense. He's been a sports writer for like 40 years
It's not just like long than, Dick, and Harry over here
that they gave a random vote, he didn't win a contest.
I take it very seriously.
You've mentioned that a few times now.
Greg, let me ask you a question,
because you've had a baseball hall of fame vote now
for what, like eight, 10 years maybe?
A little more than that now, probably closer to 15.
Okay.
He got my vote, right?
No.
Well, that's still up for question.
I gave up my vote and then all of a sudden he had a vote.
That's not how that works?
I think he sold your vote and then Greg got a vote.
I didn't get money for it.
You get a baseball writer's vote when you have,
when you've covered a team or gone to teams games
for at least 10 years in a row.
Hmm.
Do you just have to attend one game for 10 years in a row?
Yes.
Really? That's it? Yes. I should have a vote. You have to attend one game for 10 years in a row? Yes. Really?
That's it?
Yes.
I should have a vote.
You have to stay the whole game.
I'm three times eligible for this now.
No one, this is my dad, every baseball game we go to
around the seventh inning, I'm ready whenever you are.
Yeah.
Well, you get that right.
Takes it very seriously.
That long, huh?
Very seriously.
If I'm in the stands, oh my God,
keep in mind we're covering the Marlins,
which is a hinterlands of baseball.
Well, Greg, I have a question for you.
So you, since you've only had your vote for, you know, maybe a little bit over a decade,
you probably didn't get an opportunity for Dave Parker to go into the Hall of Fame.
Now, you might be someone who may have thought of voting him in, you didn't get an opportunity
to, now the Veterans Committee comes in and they put him in when you may have voted for
him.
Would you have voted for Dave Parker to go into the Hall of Fame? I would have to do more research on what
his career was. I know that there's a baseballreference.com which I really
respect has black ink, gray ink on Hall of Fame standards on somebody's
Hall of Fame numbers, career numbers relative to Hall of Famers and Dave
Parker's close i love
him as a player loved his grades a player in the seventies said i associate
him with having the biggest arm in the game being physically more menacing is a
better than just about anybody but you do have a committee that's comprised of
former players greg maddox is on this committee jack morris is on this
committee right sam berg rhino is on the committee. Jack Morris is on this committee. Ryan Sandberg, Rhino is on the committee.
They do have relationships with certain players. It does seem odd that the writers who aren't biased are telling you,
hey, this guy's not a Hall of Famer. They're just putting you in.
The writers aren't biased.
I would like to think the writers are less biased and don't have the relationships that the former players have.
How about Stu Gottz? The reason I lost my Hall of Fame vote, which is the bias of them having the moralities
to get everyone out of the Hall of Fame
who might be close to steroids.
So Barry Bonds isn't in your Hall of Fame
and Pete Rose aren't in your Hall of Fame.
It's not the same kind of bias,
but it's a bias to attach your moralities to all this shit.
I'm pretty sure Roberto Alomar
didn't get into the Hall of Fame till his second time around
because people just didn't like him.
And then the second time around, he got in with 90%.
So it was the writers just making a point
of keeping him out as a first ballot Hall of Famer.
I voted for Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds
every year that they were on the ballot.
I continue to vote for A-Rod.
I don't necessarily ban,
give a lifetime sentence to the guys
associated with steroids depending
on when it happened in their career and and how they did afterward
uh... now though the one area that's tough
is is if there are all field problems related to
you know criminal activity or alleged criminal activity it's a museum
it's a museum
i don't care about your morality. Okay, but
what were you as a baseball player? Okay, no, no, that's, that's... Okay, but then
you're biased too. Well, it's his vote though. That's fine, it is his vote. It used to be mine, but
that's fine. I got a question about, can Greg ever lose his vote other than doing
some ostentatious stunt where he tries to sell the vote online. I have no idea.
My father turned in his Heisman vote.
I was very mad at him, didn't even tell me.
Just turned in his Heisman vote as an act of conscience.
Back to the Heisman vote.
You thought he should have given it to you?
No, I didn't think, I just was hoping
he would keep it and continue voting.
Well, what is that process?
He called someone and he said,
I'd like to hand you my vote, please.
He sent an email.
He did that? Yes. Really? Yeah Yeah he sent an email. He resigned as a
Heisman voter because he was no longer covering college football on television.
I would pay thousands of dollars to read that email because I just thought about
how my dad emails and like oh my god there's no way this is like a find it
make concern. All right fine go ahead and find find call my mother here, call my father and find out what the reporting on this is.
I want Poppy to read the email if possible.
Oh my God. Sure, let's see what we've got there.
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Don LeBattard.
He has been great.
He's made great hires.
I said all.
We've said all.
He said all.
I know.
He said that.
Everyone has said everything.
First time I heard any of this, Greg.
Everything you're saying.
It's all been said.
It's all been said.
Okay, you gotta understand one thing.
Stugats.
Me maximum.
That's right. Until I say it, it hasn't been said. Boom. Okay gotta understand one thing Stu guts me maximum. That's right. I say it hasn't been said
This is the done libertar show with the Stu guts uh...
out to her bank california and now we've got the proper game show hosting their
where uh...
is a good year is that is the is going to join us and do the game showing up
but do you have samson something for us on what great Greg Cody is alleging that he's more qualified to vote on the Hall of Fame than Joe Torre?
Yeah, more independent.
Well, I just want to inform you, Greg, the reason for these committees is to really right
the wrongs that are done by the writers for whatever their biases are. So these committees
were formed in order to ensure that the plaque room in Cooperstown is properly
represented the way baseball wants the plaque room to be represented.
And when the writers do not follow and do what they're supposed to do, there's a cleanup
process.
And so that's what these committees do.
They're in charge of cleanup.
There he is.
Now time for the game show that is sweeping the nation.
Is he human?
Is it? Well, is he human? Is it?
Well, is he now?
Is he?
Is it Gutierrez?
Is he Gutierrez?
Is it Gutierrez?
Go ahead and take it from there, is he?
Thank you, Dan.
We are further contributing to Jeremy Tashay's
mental health issues.
He was doing a fine job here, but hey, you got me now.
For the game, we're trying to figure out if this thing
is human, by the way, I'm swimming in this jacket.
Your name, David Sampson, also sounds computer generated,
like the son of Sam.
Kind of sounds like a robot name, but anyway.
Next question.
Weird aside.
Do you feel music lyrics without the use of drugs?
Of course.
I love love songs.
Chicago, hard habit to break, hard to say I'm sorry.
Sounds like a generated list that AI did,
but we're gonna go ahead with human on that one.
This is human.
That was human.
That's a legitimate human answer.
Proud of you.
Good job, David.
David Sandson feels music.
He loves love songs.
Doesn't love his kids.
Chicago.
Chicago.
He doesn't know how to feel love,
but he knows how to sing about it.
Go ahead, Izzy.
All right, it's the NBA Finals.
A player who just had 30 points, 10 rebounds, and nine assists comes up to the podium, but
he brings his two-year-old child.
Your thoughts?
I almost fired a manager for bringing his kids onto the dais of his press conference,
like it was some sort of nursery school.
We have a job to do.
And I was at the Heat game yesterday and during the national anthem, there were a bunch of
Heat players like holding their kids in their arms.
I was worried about their backs hurting or something bad happening to them.
Oh no, they were holding kids.
I was watching this happen.
I am quite against that.
Do your job and then move on.
Now, I've taken photos with my kids after press conferences,
but you wait for the media to be done.
All right, we're back.
We got a ruling?
Yeah, no, not human.
Not human.
He's got like two answers that have proven humanity.
The rest of them have disgraced him as a non-human.
What else do you have Izzy?
Okay, Rami Malek won a Primetime Emmy Award
for his starring role in which TV show?
It's not the Menendez Brothers.
It's not the Dahmer story.
What is this a human question? I don't even understand.
Okay, okay. Follow-up question.
Domo Origato. Oh, I never watched Mr. Robot. I never't understand. Who can I steal? Follow up question. Domo origato.
Oh, I never watched Mr. Robot. I never watched it.
Robot, judges?
Yes, I don't know.
That seems like a bad question.
It's like, wrong game.
Wrong game question.
It's a leading question.
It's like when you're on a website
and it says like, pick every picture that has a.
Traffic light.
Yeah.
Any award winner in it.
Okay, let's do that then.
Can we do that?
All right, first question.
Holding doors open in public.
This one's tricky because you're a bit of a germaphobe,
right, but that also could be you just don't want germs
for your computer system.
So holding doors open in public, your thoughts?
I actually hold doors open for women,
but say to them, is it okay if I do this?
Because I don't want to look as though
I'm doing something wrong. You all of that only yes I actually do
and then in a door that goes like this a revolving door men are supposed to go
first so I will say I'm going first because that's what you're supposed to
you announce it push it you say all these things not human sexist robot not
just a robot but a sexist robot I I don't think that's sexist. I'm being helpful.
I told you guys the story of me in the elevator with women,
and it happened yesterday at the Elcer.
And the woman was happy I said it.
Just don't say that, David.
Chris, now I'm going to bring this up again
because she thanked me because we were getting out
at the same floor, and then we made the same right turn
where the rooms were, and I said,
hey, my room is blank, and I am not following you.
She said, thank you so much.
David, just go to the door first and walk out.
My point is, you're in the right,
your thought process is correct.
Just don't say it.
Just go to the front of the elevator and walk out first.
Ladies first, I'm a narrator.
One of the funny things, when John Amici gets on an elevator with a woman and she holds her bag too close to her chest,
he will say to her, if I wanted your bag, I'd just take it.
But he's giant. He's 6'10", 300 pounds.
David Sampson gets off on a floor and they're like, where's his parents?
Like, what happened? They're not afraid that David Sampson
is following them to the room.
They're afraid that he's gonna hide in their bag.
Dan, my move when people do that is to clutch my possessions.
Like I'm scared of you too.
Izzy, let's close out Izzy Human.
What else do you have?
All right, this is a tricky one
because it's a difficult question for real humans, okay?
Describe the flavor of Dr. Pepper.
It is syrupy.
Not a flavor.
It's got bubbles.
And it makes me think of David Naughton.
Judges?
He can't taste.
Yeah, he lost taste during COVID.
But how would you describe sy syrupy is not,
Dr. Pepper is like a sparkly root beer, isn't it?
Like, how would you describe what Dr. Pepper tastes like?
I'm going to steal this from comedian James A. Castor.
It tastes like a sexy battery.
A sexy battery.
OK.
Thank you, Izzy.
We'll see if we check in with you again.
I feel like Izzy's going off script.
That's OK. There was no script. It's one of the joys of Izzy. We'll see if we check in with you again. I feel like Izzy's going off script. That's okay, there was no script.
It's one of the joys of Izzy Human
as it was supposed to be hosted by Jeremy
until we changed it.
I wanted to play some sound for you guys.
I decide that.
So we've got a Bucks owner, a former Bucks owner
saying the following about college football.
This is Mark Lazry and he wants to basically by teams and college football seems to be open for
business
so might got ahead of the game before everybody's in the oregon press box is
nike's owner is calling plays because many years ago he figured out that i
could just run a program will be a lot of fun and part of why it is that or
organ has no preordained
right to be at the top of college football. It was built by Nike. You should see their
weight room. It's crazy how Oregon got into the game because Phil Knight's like, yeah,
I got Nike money. I just want to own this program. Here is Mark Lazry talking about
investing in college sports.
I think it's a phenomenal opportunity. And I think what you're gonna see is,
you're gonna see a number of schools selling their teams.
And the reason for that.
To whom?
To folks like us.
Like we're bidding on a couple teams, I can't tell you.
But in essence, what we would do is buy 51% of the team.
And I mean, I think if you look at a bunch of these programs,
they're making 50, 100 million off of their football program,
off of their basketball program.
So it's a way for universities, by the way,
because under federal law,
they've got to offer scholarships
and all these different sports.
So they've got gotta update their facilities.
So one of the things they wanna do is sort of say,
okay, great, my football program makes 100 million,
we'll sell 50%, that's 50 million,
do a 10 multiple on that, 15 multiple,
that's 500, 750 million.
That'll come for them to sort of fix different things
at the university.
So you're going to
start seeing more of that. It's where we're headed, right? I mean, John Skipper, our CEO,
has an investment in Unrivaled. And I'm watching these rich guys get into the game on stuff like
this. Why wouldn't you try to buy a college program? It seems like where we're headed.
Yeah. And in many ways it can solve some
of the issues of inequity within college sports because now you can take that
money as he's pointing out and now you can spend it on all the other things
rather than kind of be stuck in this place where the football program is all
that matters and everything else kind of falls by the wayside. Once you're getting
into the game Stugots where you're hiring Adrian Wojnarowski and Andrew Luck as middle managers,
you're gonna eventually, you're gonna have to eventually get to a space where the person atop your program is not a group of people,
it's one person who knows how to milk your program for profit.
David, what do you think about what's being said there?
Well, you wanted yesterday, there was a lot of talk,
hey, we don't want a salary cap.
Well, guess what?
There's no salary cap in college football,
and now they're gonna act like professional teams.
And forget NILs and where players
are really free agents every year.
You're gonna have owners of teams come in
and decide that they want their program to be the Yankees.
And then that'll be the Yankees.
And then that'll be the end of the conference system because teams won't want to share revenue
with other teams in the Big 10 or the Big 18 or the Pac 2.
No, they're going to want to maximize the revenue that they can get.
It'll be a bunch of independents like Notre Dame doing TV deals. This sort of situation will change college sports
and make it professional sports in a very wild west way.
It's coming.
But it might be better.
I think of something, you know what it reminds me of?
What he's talking about?
Everyone's like, oh, you're gonna buy Michigan or whatever.
I think about Welcome to Wrexham.
Bunch of rich guys go buy a bottom,
down on its luck college program
and say, you know, we're going to make Liberty the biggest college football program in the
nation. And at that point, what David's talking about is Liberty plays in whatever the SoCon
or whatever. There's no money in that. We got to go on our own. We got to sell our own
TV deal. We all got to make our own kind of independent deal. And I think that might be
good. It's good. It spreads it out, it makes,
it decentralizes it from the power of five schools
and all the things that we complain about,
that Stugatsa's all for, it was like,
Alabama should be in the college playoff.
We kind of get a little bit more parity across the nation.
We should buy FIU.
We should buy that football program.
I'm telling you, damn, we have to do this.
We have to bid against Pitbull for it.
And by we, you have to do this, yes.
FAU, F-I-U, make Ray Lewis the coach.
The thing that I find most interesting about this,
and I've told you before, David Sampson's
Nothing Personal podcast covers sports business
better than any I've heard, and what he does
with Skipper and Pablo on the sporting class
is the single best hour of sports business that I
have ever heard anywhere. Not the Darren Revelle, not, I've never heard something that's got that
much information in it. Why you gotta take out Darren Revelle, man? No, no, I'm just saying
whoever has been the standard bearer on sports business until now is being eclipsed by what
they're doing on the sporting class. And one of the things that's interesting about what you're
saying, we're all realizing in real time since the pandemic are we not
with this sodo contract with how undervalued the w n b a is
have we not all realized with n i l and everything else
bullshit college footballs the second biggest thing in american sports and of
course it bellacheck anduk are going over there yet to
get away from professional sports this thing is bigger than the xfl bigger
than the u.s. afro and of course the money is going to realize wait a minute
i've got more money i'll give you stability how do i buy myself into
ownership on what is the second biggest sport in america nevermind ryan reynolds
buying overseas,
you can buy it right here.
You can do all you gotta do is knock Texas's boosters
out of the way.
One booster has to want it more than all the other boosters
so you can be what Oklahoma State,
who's that Pickens guy that just got Mike Gundy
to take a pay cut in Oklahoma State
because he lost every game in the conference.
His name is T. Boone Pickens. That's right. to take a pay cut in Oklahoma State because he lost every game in the conference.
His name is T. Boone Pickens.
That's right.
T. Boone Pickens is gonna be running
every program in the country.
I'm surprised he's not.
A version of him.
There's never been a more perfect name
for a booster than T. Boone Pickens.
Yeah, that's great.
David, how soon before all of this ends up happening?
Like we're in the middle of seismic change all around it.
You got the left tackle for Colorado driving a Maybach.
You've got, you've got just, yeah, I mean,
and you've just got Texas and Ohio State
talking openly about $21 million rosters.
Like how soon before, where does this change end?
Well it's now that the players are the free agents and the players are getting paid.
They're no longer students at all. They're not scholar athletes. They're just paid
professional athletes. We're then gonna get investment into programs and that's
the NIL. That's where you could get an investment by a private equity firm, a PE
firm, venture capital into a school,
then the next step is the ownership
of a team within the school.
I'm saying a decade because you've gotta go
through these stages because once the conferences
allow teams to take on private ownership
of a specific sport, they are all of a sudden,
all of them, all the commissioners out of jobs,
all of the people running the conferences, the NCAA,
they're all done, so they're gonna make sure
there's some time in between, I'm saying about 10 years,
or about the end of this segment.
All right, thank you David, get out of here.
Let me just play some sound real quick for Cody
and the rest of you of Syracuse coach Fran Brown here,
talking about
a bowl game outside of the playoffs where he's saying our guys they don't opt out on bowl games.
Kyle McCord. Your quarterback. I think he's playing. What you think? I don't know. That's
what I'm asking. I think he's playing. Do you know if he's playing? He loves football. Do you
love football? I love watching it. Are you asking me questions? I'm trying. I think he playing. Do you know if he's playing? He love football. Do you love football?
I love watching it.
Are you asking me questions?
I'm trying.
Do you like asking questions?
I don't mind.
So I don't mind answering them.
I think Kyle's playing though.
Kyle's playing football.
If we gonna have a football game,
Kyle McCord will play in the football game
until the NCAA says Kyle can't play football anymore.
Then he'll stop playing college football
and he'll go play on the next level.
But whenever there's a football game, he'll be at it.
We called the game in two hours and we said we was about to have a game, Kyle will probably
be the first one there to play football.
Has anybody opted out at this point?
We don't opt out around here, man.
We play football.
We like the game.
We get to play football.
The more football you play, the more the NFL watches.
It would be so great if Kyle didn't play in the game
after that.
That would be great.
I feel like this guy's, like, I don't take showers thing
has gone to his head.
Now he's just like, I get, this goes viral when I do stuff.
He's feeling good about himself.
He's just feeling himself right now.
He took a shower though, he did.
That's another one of the big changes in college football.
Why would, if you're Cam Ward,
why would you play in the Pop Tarts bowl?
Okay, your draft stock is rising.
Why would you risk that in a second tier bowl
with a funny name?
I totally agree with you.
Why would you do that?
Think about that.
There is so much money and your dreams,
your professional dreams on the horizon.
Why would you risk that for the Pop Tart bowl? What about you made a commitment to a team?
No.
You finished with the team.
You made a commitment to yourself.
I mean, like, I remember playing rec league sports.
If I wanted to stop playing, you're like, no,
you made a commitment to this team,
and you're not going to quit mid-season.
You're going to keep playing.
OK, look, if UM is in the college football playoff right now,
and Cam Ward says, i'm sorry i i'm
not playing that is a national scandal i'd be fine with that too by the way
okay i don't national and i don't think many people would be but cnn but he's
got to agree with the pop tarts bowl yeah i'd be fine with that too by the way
anytime he wants to opt out on not being injured because he doesn't want to play
football anymore because he's maximized his value in college, I'd be down with whatever that decision was.
But Greg is right.
I think Christian McCaffrey made that decision many, many years ago and people crushed him
for doing it.
Yeah, but it wasn't a championship game.
It wasn't as overt.
I'd be curious if anyone would dare to sit out, opt out on one of these playoffs.
I think it was the Rose Bowl.
Also, how many times does that come up when people talk about Christian McCaffrey now? Nobody gives a shit. That's my thing about any of
these things. In the moment, yes, it might be a national scandal. Guess what? Three years
away, five years away, nobody cares. Does it not make any difference that Cam Ward
made a lot of money this year? He's already a millionaire. That does. That's something
they have. That is new math, I I would say that I wasn't doing just now
where, again, Kam Ward gave all of his offensive linemen
expensive jewelry.
Kam Ward made a lot of money this year.
Yeah, but we also don't know how much money Kam Ward saved
for the future.
And so-
Well, yes, you're right about that.
But if we're gonna make all of this,
this professional, this transactional,
then, you know know in my lifetime
Melvin Bratton and Willis McGahey are sort of the examples of getting hurt at the end Willis McGahey still became a first-round pick
But Melvin Bratton lost what was career earnings that would have changed the life of his entire family
Four generations by playing in an extra game. This is one of the things everybody loves the playoffs so much
We're gonna add four games to somebody's schedule like we're gonna Dan
I play to the end of January like that that part is is crazy as all of these people grab at the money
I'm not going to blame the labor for saying I'm going to protect my health over the money
But you're right when you're saying the transaction has become even more financial than it's ever been if you're
paying cam ward millions of dollars you're probably entitled to ask him to
play in the playoff games you're not entitled to ask him to play in the pop
tart bowl well well I don't know if we cut no not okay well here's the thing
you're not paying them you're paying them for his name, image, and likeness.
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