The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: It's All Fun And Games, Baby

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

When is the last time BYU was this relevant and who are some of the delightful names that are brought to mind? Then, Chris accidentally made a tragic mistake on a live read, the debate rages on regard...ing how little Erik Spoelstra slept because of last night's loss, and Tony learns that Kojak was a guy who looked like Dracula and was named "Telly." Plus, the Florida Panthers got into an unbelievable fight last night, Billy and Jeremy disagree over the merit of the College Football Playoff, and Stugotz delivers ANOTHER list of Top 5 QB Names If They Were Jewish. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:07 The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. StuGots has a updated list on Jewish quarterbacks in celebration of the Jewish quarterback for BYU.
Starting point is 00:01:41 BYU Jew? BYU Jew. Is anyone making those t-shirts? Because if they are not, I believe those t-shirts are something that should be made because this is the best BYU team we've seen in a minute. The most relevant BYU team that we have seen in a minute. Probably, can I dare say this? I'm gonna say, am I gonna go back to either Ty Dettmer
Starting point is 00:02:02 or their undefeated seasons of Steve Young to go back and find bring up young teams that might be as good as this one I think Steve young tied Detmer Robbie Bosco all those teams, right? You have to go back to like the early 80s to find a BYU team. That was this good What was the last BYU team to win the championship? Was it the undefeated one, late 80s vote that won the national championship that was 13-0? Maybe. I think so. 90s? We will look that up in a second. But Stugats has another list and we will get to it in a moment. I want to get to the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight as well and there was a fight in
Starting point is 00:02:40 hockey last night in the Panthers game that I want to get to BYU won it in 1984 I believe it was Ty Detmer. No. No Ty Detmer was after that. Okay. Yes, that's not tied. Maybe Robbie Bosco I great quarterback name by the way. It is a great quarterback name put it on the pole at LeBattard show is Robbie Bosco a great quarterback name Chris I was surprised and delighted in the last segment because you did almost effortlessly and proudly a read of a Game Time ad that was professionally done, segued well, and your reading was, much to my surprise, excellent. However, you made what I'm gonna call a tragic mistake,
Starting point is 00:03:28 and I don't think I'm overstating it. You cannot do an ad in which you get the information wrong on what someone's savings can be. You have now false advertised by reading something that I thought you read well. In the worst way you could possibly read it, because it would be better if you stumbled all over it than you told people during a live read that they're getting more of a discount than
Starting point is 00:03:48 what it is you've advertised. That's right and this is a good old fashioned what we call in the business a make good and here it is. Download the Game Time app, create an account, use code Dan for $20 off your first purchase which is a huge savings. Yes. But not as huge as 20% off, which is what you said. It honestly depends on how cheap the tickets are.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Mistakes happen. Honestly. I don't know, but it was a mistake by me. Use code Dan for $20 off your first purchase, terms applied, download the Game Time app, and we remind you, Tony, what time is it? Game time. Is that gonna haunt you forever?
Starting point is 00:04:20 I'm like Billy, how Billy thinks Spoh is. I'm good. Shake it off. Yes, that's right. That is why you're not as excellent at coaching'm like Spoh. I'm like Billy how Billy thinks Spoh is I'm good. Yeah, you know, yes, that's right That is why you're not as excellent at coaching as Eric's both. He's won two titles like Get over it should have won four. I mean that is Billy and you're not promised eight and you're not wrong either like yes Eric's bolstra should be gentle and forgiving on himself in a way that is humane and kind and decent
Starting point is 00:04:48 to himself based on a lifetime of success. He will not be. It is not the way that human being is built. I mean, they're gonna lose plenty of games this year. Why let this one be the one that bothers him? Billy, you are right as a life coach, as a therapist, as a philosopher, you're correct if you're trying to lead Eric Spolster to happiness.
Starting point is 00:05:09 To sanity. But it's not how he wins championships. Not to cop out, he's gonna be like, well, the whole season fell apart because of this one. It's like, no, it's all the other losses, but you should have been a better coach all those other games too, not just the one loss. I'm a little confused.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Wasn't the time out that derailed this season. I'm a little confused. Jimmy playing 40 games this year. I'm confused why Billy's confused about this. He rarely is the reason that they lose. Like this was him. It's on him, yes. If you believe in coaching, he's always the reason.
Starting point is 00:05:35 That's the difference in other losses. Third quarter adjustments. I will tell people some of the stories in the relationship that Pat Riley and Eric Spolstra have because it is a fascinating relationship, at least in part because Spolstra, not unlike Billy, Mike, Chris, and Roy, grew up in a professional environment where Riley was daddy and the way that Riley lives is there is winning and there is misery. I do not think of Pat Riley as a happy person and he's done
Starting point is 00:06:07 a lot of winning because there's so much misery around the way that these people care that makes winning feel like a relief sometimes instead of a joy. Eric Spolstra learned at at Riley's knee and has had so much success that he um he'll brawl with Riley in a way that is healthy and the way that you might think of a father and son arguing because of what we're talking about here where Eric Spolster knows no other basketball life under the other than working under that man and that man knows you cost them the game last night like in a way that that is a real suffering for these guys who care about can I get this guy this much of an advantage so he could be a better player it's not even that Spall minds the televised embarrassment. It's not even that he cares deeply about his job. He's got to walk into that room where those guys
Starting point is 00:07:14 are giving their body to the cause and be like, man, I'm always telling you guys to be better and I'm the one with the amateur brain fart at the end. That hurts him most with his players and coworkers because he single-handedly brought that into the building today. Well, not single-handedly, bam, cost him the game yesterday. Yeah. What do you imagine the conversation was like
Starting point is 00:07:36 after the game with Spoh and Riley? Yeah. What do you imagine? Riley probably knows how much he's gonna wear, right, and takes it easy on him. I assume they don't talk at all after that. And I would further assume that if Riley dares to talk to him, it's to offer him comfort and support
Starting point is 00:07:55 because as a coach he would know how bad that would feel. I'm telling you, there's not a worse feeling than that one for a coach anywhere in sports. Like it's not a worse feeling than that one for a coach anywhere in sports like it's not losing a championship It's single-handedly being responsible for betraying the guys who count on you when they count on you to give them a sliver of Advantage but we're acting like this game was in the Eastern Conference finals Not a game that could not a game that could have gotten them to five and five on the season and now they're four and six. Oh no. In a season where there's understandable pressure given where the core is at, you have a game like that one where you were getting blown out of the building by the Pistons early in the game, you
Starting point is 00:08:36 claw all the way back. Tyler Hero has one of these types of games that get you back into it. They get to overtime, Tyler hits a go ahead bucket with two seconds left, and just purely out of the frustration and confusion as to how a play happens, Spoh loses his mind and not just like calls the time out, oh it doesn't happen, they get a technical, with the rule being they get the ball back, that ends the game. So this could have been a game that goes to double overtime,
Starting point is 00:09:05 Tyler leads him back, you feel great, you're on a six game road trip where now you get to five and five with back to back games against Indiana. You're feeling so much better than you did at the start of this year where things have been weird. And now that game ends up a loss despite all the good things to take away from it. Those are the types of games
Starting point is 00:09:22 that do keep coaches up at night. I think that everything that Billy is saying is totally reasonable. And I think what Eric Spolster does for a living is not. And the way that it has to be approached is not. Like, Billy is absolutely saying, come on coach, have some perspective. And I'm sitting here thinking to myself,
Starting point is 00:09:42 maybe the Derek White game felt that bad because of the stakes involved, who you're playing. Different for Spoh though, because that wasn't necessarily 100% his move. This is one of the only times in basketball where a coach can make a move that directly costs their team the game or at least the opportunity to win the game,
Starting point is 00:10:02 because it would have just gone to double overtime. Well, get it together together because you have another NBA Cup game coming up and we can't let this one affect the rest of this group stage of the tournament. Like get it together, Spoh. We can't let this keep us up at night. Like focus on the next game against the Pacers. Billy, I would actually.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Imagine if this season unravels because of this. Because he can't get it together. That's not what we need. We need now more than ever for Spoh to be a leader against the Pacers. Move on. I would actually like to have you lead us into a lighter, more joyful tomorrow
Starting point is 00:10:38 by being the life coach. I know you're trying. And I would say that there is great learning to be done in the wisdom that you are presently giving Eric's bolster who I'm sure is listening to this show right now Because he wants to consume every single thing today that's being said about an intergalactic brain fart I would tell him don't listen to anything today coach if you're listening now turn it off Yeah, I mean put it on mute like we don't want our you know ratings to be affected
Starting point is 00:11:03 But like put it on mute and walk away, but don't listen to anything else not today, buddy I think that buddy felt a little condescending the same way that my latch Renee latchman baby felt condescending There's a buddy like we're friends. I didn't say it like take a mental health day I didn't say it like I didn't I did say ratchet latch you're in your underwear. I did not say it's all that's something You would say it's all fun and games baby something you would say. It's all fun and games, baby, is not what I said to Renee Latch. Tidy whitey's for Latch, we assume, right? Oh yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Who would say it that way, because I'm gonna make a musty reference, but I sounded like Telly Savalas, I sounded like Kojak. I don't know why. Who loves you, baby? I don't know why I threw a baby at the end of that story. Who? No, either of those people. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:46 That's unfortunate. Terry what? It is Kojak and his name is Telly, Telly, not Terry. He looks kind of like Pitbull. Telly Savalas, he looks like Dana White. Yeah, Sila T on the last name. Bezos kind of. Go ahead, yeah, it's just another bald guy,
Starting point is 00:12:01 the keeper for Atlanta FC that got caught in the net. Joe Rogan. Just anybody. Guzman. It's just another bald guy the the keeper for Atlanta FC that got caught Pinhead from hellraiser go-ahead video find Teli Savalas for us kojak Goes of a time that was so cool Tony you guys wouldn't even understand that he was a detective who solved cases And he did it while sucking on a lollipop. How's that? Yeah cool? cases and he did it while sucking on a lollipop. How's that? How's that? And he was bald. And America loved him because he solved stuff
Starting point is 00:12:29 while bald and he would say things like, who loves you baby? If Greg brought him up, you would crush him. This guy was born in 1922. Agreed, but it's the last time that I can remember someone. It's like Dracula. He does look like Bela Lugosi. And I love that the photo they're using is black and white,
Starting point is 00:12:50 as if Kojak wasn't on television that color. The first episode was in 1973. Who else would use the phrase baby famously at the end of a sentence though? Austin Powers. Okay that would have been, yes thank you. But he does say it facetiously where, well no I guess he does try and say it cool the same way that Telly did, old Telly did. I am right now a child, I'm on the floor as a child.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I'm a six year old watching this because my dad loves it. And Kojak was the coolest back then. Telly's name was Aristotle-us. Wow. Oh man, you gotta keep it the way that it was. You can't make that Telly. That name, his actual name is better than
Starting point is 00:13:47 telly it's cooler than telly I like telly I like telly too but how do you spell what you're saying there a risk Aristotle what it's like Aristotle and then LIS at the end a R I S T O T Eeles. Aristoteles or Aristoteles, I like that. That's pretty strong. Which do you like better? Greek American. Put it on the poll please, Jujerette Lebutard show. Cooler name, Telly or Aristoteles.
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Starting point is 00:15:14 your most confident self. Don Lebatard. But it's just his titties are sitting on the shelf that is his belly. Stu Gatz. He said titties and it just like shocked me a little bit. I wasn't quite prepared for titties. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats!
Starting point is 00:15:40 Can you guys find for me the fight from last night's Panther game? They lost last night's. They had the longest winning streak in the sport, right? There was seven games. Can you tell me is Winnipeg converting on half of its power plays? Is it up to half where they're converting at like a rate greater than McDavid? I told you yesterday watch out for that team. You did say that. Yeah, mm-hmm. The Panthers lose last night, and the fight was pretty epic. If this happened in basketball,
Starting point is 00:16:12 we would raid the facilities with a bunch of authorities and never allow anyone to play basketball again. But it's hockey, so we just watch it and enjoy it. 42.2% on the power play. Jesus! Yeah, okay, so they just score every time they've got a power play watch out Yes, watch out for the Jets not Stu gots his jets the other jet I actually want to play this with the sound because it has a funny call. So let's hit this guys
Starting point is 00:16:43 Gadjib is throwing blows with Brendan Dillon. Wow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. These are two tough, tough customers. Oh. Tough customers as a phrase, Tony was asking, where does that come from? Tough customers, because that was a good deal beyond tough customers, what I was just watching. It's a tough cookie.
Starting point is 00:17:12 It was several realms. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at LeBittard Show. Tougher, cookies or customers? For the audio audience, the Panther somehow wins the fight while having his jersey over his head. Well, because he didn't get hit. I mean, it was just like crazy. At one point, the jersey audience the panther somehow wins the fight while having his jersey over his head I mean it was just like crazy at one point the jersey the panther jersey is over his head so you're like oh this is bad news for him and he goes on to win the fight not being able to see all right let's do
Starting point is 00:17:36 this please just real quick restart the video in a moment and I want Chris I want you and me to count on each side off count the number of punches being thrown by the panther you are count the number of punches thrown by the new jersey devil okay and uh... and i will just cover this with you because uh... the video uh... audience can see what we're showing but the audio audience doesn't understand that this fight for you help me with this this is super unusual to see these two guys
Starting point is 00:18:06 throw haymakers, not just these two guys, but any two guys throw this many haymakers just holding on to each other. This is an unusual length for this to last without anyone getting in the way or anyone going down. Nah, this looked like a late 80s, early 90s fight. Just so I'm clear, who is counting what? I'm gonna count the Panther punches. Are we starting it again counting what I'm gonna count the panther punches
Starting point is 00:18:25 and starting again Chris Cody is gonna count the devil punches and I just because I want to give to the audio audience the understanding here of this is a fight that's lasting a good what 25 seconds yeah and it's just constant punch and it's just constant right hands from each of them. Go ahead and start it again. Go. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 34. 25 or 26 5 27 28 7 29 30 31 32 33 34
Starting point is 00:19:15 34 all of them connected devil only 33 all of them connecting though. It's not like 34 and some of them are grazing What was that? Gave a number they gave 37 that was an insane fight. That's what that was That was a Brendan Dillon the Devils and Jonah Gadgett Richard ofants. So 37 was the number? Yeah. Is that a fine for Dan? That's unofficial. It was lots to gots. I don't know if you think you're being helpful here. You're not. I was trying to organize it. The messier it is, the funnier it is, the more ridiculous it is. I don't know why this is the moment you want order all of a sudden. I just wanted to find you.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Today is the day you've decided, okay everybody, let's get it together and do this correctly. Order I say. Who is that? That was from Titanic. The guy when there's people are going crazy and he like has to shoot in the air
Starting point is 00:20:00 because they want to get on the boat. He's like, order, order I say. You have a lot of Titanic impressions. I'm a child. That's a good flick. Stop on it every time. I've never seen it. Overrated.
Starting point is 00:20:10 What? I know how it ends. I'm good. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at LeBotard Show. Is Titanic overrated as a movie? Tough customer is an idiom that refers to a person or thing that is difficult to deal with. But why?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Why are they called? Because sometimes sometimes customers Dan? They're tough In the ass is your definition of tough customer just a customer that's difficult to deal with that is he looked for a formal devil Yeah, I'm not looking for what tough customer means I know know what tough customer means. So your customer is someone who purchases things. I'm trying to figure out how it is that the customer became so tough that all of a sudden I'd be watching a fight where someone is taking 35 blows to the face. And the phrase that I'm using is that's one tough customer.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Well, Tony told you. Did you guys know Ving Rhames was Kojak? Tony said when you were talking about Kojak, he goes, I thought it was Ving Rhames. That's the only Kojak I know. Ving Rhames was Kojak? Tony said when you were talking about Kojak, he goes, I thought it was Ving Rhames. That's the only Kojak I know. Ving Rhames, 2005. When was he, did he do a remake of Kojak? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He did? Oh, yeah. There was 33% on Rotten Tomatoes, but he did it. There was a black Kojak? Yeah. So when you said Kojak, I was like, oh, Ving Rhames is black. When? And then I saw that guy as a Dracula.
Starting point is 00:21:20 It's not the same guy. Roy, I'm asking you this question because you're a buff of trivia, not because you're black. Did you know that there was a black Kojak? Yeah. OK. Nine episodes that show. Gone too soon, Dan.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Blowjack. What? Bojack. Bojackson? Blowjack? Black? Bojack. Yeah, I understand.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Thanks, Tristan. Co-black was right there. In 1984, Robbie Bosco was the quarterback Lo Jack? Black? Bojack. Yeah, I understand, thanks Tristan. Lo Jack. Co Black was right there. In 1984, Robbie Bosco was the quarterback for BYU. Trevor Maddich was the center. Wow, no wonder he talks about BYU all the time. I didn't realize that Trevor Maddich was on the undefeated team.
Starting point is 00:22:01 That again, at the end of the season, you know how they decided? A bunch of sports writers got together and just said they're champions That's how that got decided back then. Here's the name on that team that you'll love by sick of Hema How much of our audience is learning right now in the day of Kojak people just wandered over and voted yeah I think they're the best That's how we decided the champion in college football like 60 sports writers. We're like, yeah, I think they're the best. That's how we decided the champion in college football, like 60 sports riders, we're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Sometimes there were ties. Oh yeah. I mean, is it crazier than saying, like, I think this is the eighth best team in the country right now. No, we still do it the same. Yeah, it's crazy. It's just ridiculous, but you guys make fun of me every time I say the championship measurements,
Starting point is 00:22:41 they're stupid. The bracket throws me off. Enough of this bracket. It's weird. UM is nine, but they're fourth in the bracket, so they're really four. Right, Georgia's on the outside looking in, but they're ranked ahead of Boise State.
Starting point is 00:22:52 The whole thing is weird. You guys aren't in on this. I'm in on this 12-team playoff. It's just confusing. I love the bracket. I love it. I love that everyone's still in it. No, I've completely flipped my opinion on this,
Starting point is 00:23:03 because before this season, I was railing against it I like college football the way it was but I am sold on it It's just the way they presented is a little bit confused. Yeah the presentation Yeah, that's all there is there is an interesting thing here. This is not the best crew to discuss it with though Because the divide that we have on our show is To me where it is a lot of people in college football are where you have Lucy and Mike and Jessica rabidly arguing over the details
Starting point is 00:23:35 and Stugatz wandering over just being like, yeah, I like seven teams. I think I could put this one here and there. And I think a lot of people are doing it the way Stugz is doing it. Including the committee. Yeah, yeah, tell me when it's all over. There are the people who care rapidly
Starting point is 00:23:50 and will argue about this nonstop, and then there are a lot of people who are like, yeah, I care plenty on weekends, but not as much as you, and I'll see you in a few weeks or a few months when the games are being decided, and all of them are welcome in the tent. I just think that one group gets really frustrated by the other and I don't think it's Stu Gotts caring enough to get frustrated by Jessica, Lucy and Mike and the way that they care about this, which
Starting point is 00:24:14 is totally different from the way Stu Gotts cares about it, which is just give me a tournament with Alabama and the five teams that beat Alabama and even if Alabama's got five losses, I just want to see Alabama play the SEC teams. Yeah, do it against Alabama. I mean, listen, I don't criticize them for taking it so seriously. They should not criticize others for not taking it that seriously.
Starting point is 00:24:34 But that's what happens whenever somebody cares deeply about something that someone else doesn't care about enough except to criticize. Like, that's the whole thing. The whole game is somebody cares deeply, you never care, you only care enough to bitch about it, and you don't know anything. People get frustrated by you being that person.
Starting point is 00:24:52 The quarterback coach for that BYU team, Mike Holmgren. I might not know anything about the college football playoff rankings, but I do know that ultimately, because it's a TV product picked by the TV network, the matchups are just going to be whatever sets up for the best possible storylines, right? There's no way that they're not factoring that in when they're picking a 12-team playoff now because ultimately, you look at it right now, Tennessee sitting at 8, they have a matchup
Starting point is 00:25:20 where if they win, all right, it's Josh Heiple against his former quarterback and Dylan Gabriel. You have Alabama and Indiana, which is interesting because it's the team that's never been there against the team that's always there. Ultimately, it's a TV product, and now that it's not just four teams, they're already on SEC Network doing the groundwork to make you believe that a one-loss Indiana that loses to Ohio State shouldn't be as valuable as a potential three-loss SEC team because it's about their tie-ins their networks their conferences and the best possible storylines. I think didn't McAfee have someone on yesterday a committee member who said she said I
Starting point is 00:25:55 believe yeah it was Heather Dinnit. A three loss SEC team sure I'd put them right and well you said ultimately a TV, made for TV product, always been a made for TV product, and always been a made for TV product that does a very good job of disguising that it's a made for TV product, because you want it to be about merit, argument, sports discussion,
Starting point is 00:26:18 and we're still doing it the way the sports writers did, where they're just like, yeah, I think them would make a good story. And we're pretending that it's something else, but no, it's a bunch of people getting together and giving you exactly the menu items that you want so that you can be entertained because it's all fun and games, baby.
Starting point is 00:26:36 But we've also learned that like, rewarding the record doesn't work. Like we've had a lot of blowouts in the four team playoff system that were not competitive games because it's like, hey, let's put this team in because they deserve to be there. Let's give them a seat at the table.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And it's like, oh no, they're not as good as an SEC team after all. That is my concern. Of the 12 teams, how many of those teams actually have a real chance of winning a national championship? Well this year more than ever. This year, yes. I would agree.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And it's totally different than it has been. And the secret sauce that the nfl has the college football does not have is only nfl they're really all kind of equal every single weekend college football is closer to that you guys know who you think of the best six teams in the country but you do you know who you take and put their we'd all largely agree and then the other six will surprise us to make some sort of you know or will or won't surprise us because one game samples but all of us would agree on whatever the best six or eight teams are
Starting point is 00:27:33 that will get in easily and now we'll just argue about the other four as opposed to arguing about just four but all of it has always been only a made for television event because it's disguised as something else but you do understand that right? It is only a made for television event. We file it under sports and we make it, oh maybe this will be measurements and merit based and everything else but it's only meant to entertain you and it does that wildly successfully. I'm okay if the committee is saying to themselves, hey, what are the games that are gonna entertain
Starting point is 00:28:09 the public the most and that's the feel they put out there for us to see. But Stugats, the people who care the most get mad at that and those people is what I'm saying because they want it to be merit-based, not entertainment-based. What I'm saying to you about what we're discussing is, it's the source of tension between people
Starting point is 00:28:28 who care about something deeply. It's the source of tension between Spoh and Billy. Yeah, I mean, there's no tension there, I'm fine. I'm trying to help him out. You're trying to help him out. Exactly right, yeah. And I would say, by the way, the people that get frustrated are the people that were arguing that FSU
Starting point is 00:28:42 should have been in the playoffs last year. And look at FSU this year, obviously they lost a lot of people, but like, FSU should should have been in the playoffs last year. And look at FSU this year, obviously, they lost a lot of people. But like, FSU should not have been in the playoffs last year. Why? It's one season. Because they got blown out of their bowl game.
Starting point is 00:28:53 They lost like 60 points. They lost their quarterback. So that's why they shouldn't have been. They deserved it based off merit. You win every single game, you're supposed to be there. That's why we're saying it's a made for TV product. And that's not necessarily a bad thing for the result, because ultimately, look, I was the guy
Starting point is 00:29:05 caping up for undefeated UCF in 2017, right? But the team that went in ahead of them was the team that was led by Jalen Hurts to the college football playoff as a four seed that ends with one of the great college football moments of Tua throwing a pass at the end of the game to win it over Georgia, a four seed that ultimately wins that was a two loss Alabama that was picked ahead
Starting point is 00:29:24 of an undefeated UCF. The committee does a good job. They create good story lines. They create what they believe to be the four most competitive teams. In that case, now the 12, and it's better that there are things in place like the highest group of five team or the four highest ranked conference champions to now give at least a little validity to, hey, winning all of your games matters. But they were proven right.
Starting point is 00:29:46 FSU was not one of the four best teams after losing their quarterback. But then we're having a conversation about what are the four best teams at the end of the season and who had the four best seasons? Because those are two different arguments. And if the whole premise is the season doesn't matter, it's about peaking at the end and having a resume
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Starting point is 00:32:00 And Mike Ryan bet on DraftKings, because Mike Ryan bet on us. This is the bet you're afraid of doubling down on? Putting up a billboard in Edmonton? Stugats! I care more about Matthew Kachuck than I do my daughter. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats! Stu Gotz, I didn't expect when we began today to end up in a discussion about last year's FSU Seminoles when I can enjoy this year's FSU Seminoles being one and nine. Nine L's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Norvel spelled with nine L's. Yeah, 1984 BYU team, their wide receivers coach, Norm Chow. By the way, Dan, I don't know if you intentionally did this or not, but we found a reason for hope for you in the last segment, I don't even think you're aware of it. You said that the big difference between college and the NFL is that NFL teams are all essentially the same.
Starting point is 00:33:04 So if all the teams are essentially the same, then three and six team is something to be hopeful for if they're all in a level playing field. I was actually thinking about this. I would like to rank the NFL teams. Wow. I think that would be great. Like imagine this Thursday you have number six Washington taking on number eight Philadelphia. They are kind of ranked. I know but it would be really cool if we did that. Like where would you rank the Dolphins right now? They're getting healthy at the right time. I think you guys should do that on God bless football Maybe we will you can go the anti FSU argument right FSU was undefeated, but they lost their quarterback So they're out dolphins. Hey, they have six losses, but who cares with two? They're two and three the offense is looking better
Starting point is 00:33:39 They're actually the tenth best team in the country. It's two gods Chris has told me in my ear that you have something on your lip. Can you look at me here? I cannot see it. I cannot see what might be. Sure, here, what is it? Oh no, no don't eat it! No!
Starting point is 00:33:54 I'm hungry. No way! Was it a bugger? Oh no, what was that? Tell me! It had been spittle, I hope it was spittle. No, it wasn't, no, that had a consistency to it that wasn't watery. No delicious
Starting point is 00:34:06 No, you guys need to on video. You need to isolate that and Chris I need you to isolate as well Please the sound that the announcer made in the middle of that panther devil fight the single sound that that that You have more of that announcer made. I don't know what that was Roy did you see what that was no thank God who got his lip did any of you see that was a solid piece of something that was not water that was not dry mouth that was not it could have been dry mouth because I had that bread that we have on
Starting point is 00:34:37 Wednesdays when I walked in today that's all I had and I haven't drank any water so it could be whatever whatever it was it's in my That was not spittle, that was something that was solid. It's something that's being digested right now. And what you just did was deeply unpleasant. Billy, are you disgusted, or are you mortified, or are you just par for the course? God bless football is going to rank NFL teams now, because I don't dislike Stugatz's idea.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I just don't like it as content very much because it feels to me like just going through the schedule and asking Stugatz's opinion on who's going to win. I'm not trying to do it here. I'm just saying it would be a good idea if the NFL did it that way. That's all. It would be exciting, I think. It seems like a fun thing for your social media. Let's put this on television here, this thing on Stugats's face. Let's do this investigation.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Go closer up here, please. Can you get closer? You guys can see whether or not this is solid or not, right? That is not spittle, and that is, yeah, that is unpleasant. That's probably some, that is a piece of bread, I think, that was probably in your teeth before, and as you were giving opinions, came out of your teeth
Starting point is 00:35:45 and just rested on your lip. Yeah, we're all properly disgusted by that. Let's move on. It's distracting, but we don't need to stay there and I'm sorry that I ventured there at all. Chris, it's your fault by saying to me in my ear, I couldn't see it from over here. It's been there for a while.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Imagine this Sunday, 4 425 p.m., the number one ranked chiefs versus the number three ranked bills. Oh wow, would the chiefs be ranked number one though? Or would it be the Lions? They would not. The chiefs would not be number one. The committee would shock everyone
Starting point is 00:36:16 by making the Lions number one. Just to get us to talk. Yes, because the chiefs have won all their games by one score, right? Isn't that reminiscent of what like the Vikings were a couple of years ago when we thought they were good, but they weren't actually good because they won all of their games by one score.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Have the Chiefs had any two score games? Yes, they beat the Niners and the Saints by double digits, but other than that, all single digit games. So do you guys remember the Viking team I'm talking about that started super strong with a quarterback and Kirk Cousins that not a lot of people believed in, but all they were winning was one score games, and then when they got to the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:36:56 they ended up getting exposed. I do think it's funny that we're doing this with the Chiefs and we're granting them, understandably, because they've won nine straight games when they're down in the second half and they've won fifteen games straight overall. I do understand why it is that people would be looking at that and giving them the benefit of that out. Oh, they just know how to do that winning thing and they're not going to stumble against anybody in the playoffs because they have, like, it is fairly amazing to
Starting point is 00:37:23 me that they got there before my homes turned 30 that They got there to where everyone will agree on they'll just figure out something No matter what you have Lamar Jackson Derek Henry great running game. Don't care what you have They'll figure out something at the end. They have spags they do they have beaten the 49ers They beat the Bengals early in the season They've beaten Baltimore and people are still questioning this team Which is and I'm one of them by the way be careful that Vikings team started eight and one this is back in 2022 They had one loss at the Philadelphia Eagles in week two that was by a couple of scores
Starting point is 00:37:59 They had a win in week one that was by a couple of scores and then they rattled off Seven straight one score wins, and then ultimately lost in the wild card round. Nobody would think that those Vikings had an ability to win one score games. Correct. Everyone thinks the Chiefs do. Yes. Everyone.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yes. Everyone thinks. Yep, they'll figure out a way. The Chiefs do, and that is a crazy distinction to be making About a football team because I remember how much we were trying to talk ourselves into those Vikings might be good and couldn't quite Do it couldn't quite figure out how to do it, but they're the same In fact, my guess would be Jeremy that their point differential over those nine games those vikings probably even better than the chiefs i'm guessing that it's even better because the chiefs are just like plus fifty or something stugats it's not
Starting point is 00:38:51 it's it's not some great point differential right like uh... look at where it is they are at nine and i'll plus fifty eight right now i mean that's crazy nine games fifty but they're just all they do is when close games and i think what that i guess what i'm saying to you is most of my life outside of maybe brady ever since i got into the arithmetic of sports the bill james and how it is that you do the measurements most of my life winning one score games is not an ability
Starting point is 00:39:23 michael jordan like they're just a few legends where we say all that person has an ability to do that that no matter who you are on the other side you're gonna lose to that person even if you're and the people are jackson i'm gonna be watching the game and everybody's gonna be watching the game and just like brady coming down the field at the end you've left him too much time. You've left Andy Reid, Mahomes too many ways
Starting point is 00:39:48 to still beat you and they will, I expect it. Or you left them enough time and they'll block a field goal. Well, Peyton got cute there. Peyton, did you see Peyton? You're right. One second left. I want only one second left. Watch how I do this.
Starting point is 00:40:01 One second, not two seconds, not three seconds. One second. The Vikings were plus 32 That year through nine games. Okay, even worse That's winning them all by a field goal plus 32 at eight and one There it is, that's what I was looking for. That's what happens when tough customers square off in a hockey game That is an old Italian man having sex. Oy yi yi. I think he's Jewish.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Oy yi yi. Yeah, for sure Jewish. Are you ready to do your five Jewish quarterback names? Are you ready to do that now? I am ready to do it. I might have more than five, I'm not even certain. I spent the better half of the day doing this yesterday after the show. i was very popular got calls about it
Starting point is 00:40:47 yesterday i got calls people celebrating saying yes sir that it was perfect not only the list was perfect but your mistake on uh... just getting shalom's wrong and i'm not going to say that i'm sure long that the way you made the mistake was even funnier than if you had nailed the joke uh... all i i have some OLI sure. Johnny Junitis. Johnny Ju. Gary Dreidelson. Todd Minorovich. Jacoby the The old Colts quarterback. You don't remember him? My bad, my bad, my bad. That's a great year, Pagel. He never had a great year, I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Look up Jeremy Mike Pagel's best year. Nice! I've totally forgotten about Mike Pagel for very good reasons. Yeah. Yom Brady. Oy yi yi. Mel Kapoor Jr. Oy yi yi. Have we gotten to the numbers yet?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Have we gotten to number five yet, or you're just gonna keep? Ryan Schvitz-Patrick. Oy yi yi. Oh. We need a coach. Robert Holla. Oy yi yi.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Oh. Mike Pagel's best year was 14 touchdowns, 15 picks. Oh, it was a doozy. Back then, I mean, that was everything. Show four, Sanders. Oy yi yi. Done. So far?
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