The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: It's Hedonistic, Bigger Balls

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

The Big Suey kicks off with more discussion about the two major gambling scandals in sports. What is going on with Shohei Ohtani after his press conference yesterday? Jontay Porter could not have been more reckless in his gambling scandal. Plus, Mike continues advocating for bigger balls in the NBA. Then, Your Friendly Neighborhood Race Lady, Jemele Hill, joins the show and Dan continues struggling to get to all the topics today. Jemele covers the incoming Kim Mulkey story and whether or not she will get a golden pass, Caitlin Clark's impact and a possible matchup with LSU and Sean Combs fleeing the country as his homes are raided and children arrested. In the meantime, Dan calls Jemele a coward for not answering Mike's questions about bigger balls. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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show? A podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. I don't think I'm gonna be able to get to everything today. I never say that.

I don't think it's possible. We have not even done what happened with Ohtani yesterday. The gambling controversy that I'm guessing, and please correct me because I don't know how this is being covered. tiny is hugely famous and yes four million dollars four point five million dollars with the cover-up and the hugely famous player that seems like a gambling scandal hell last week i said if the worst of that is

true that'll be the biggest gambling scare one of the biggest sports candles we've ever seen and then john tay porter happen i like not that's a bigger one the biggest gambling scandal, one of the biggest sports scandals we've ever seen. And then John Tate Porter happened. I'm like, no, that's a bigger one. He's not as famous. Now obviously if a famous person did it that way. But in terms of an obvious link to, ooh, this person, if I were Otani's people, I would throw this guy.

You guys think the economy would just bury a translator. Like if I was thinking about the most mafioso allegedly as you could put together to protect the economy of Otani I'd call and ask if Michael Porter has a brother to create this controversy that's so stupid but so obviously guilty I do not need a trial I don't need to live in it live in an American system of government I don't need an explanation all of it allegedly allegedly denial allegedly But holy shit if I didn't know better I could now by Association say so that's why Michael Porter played that way in the finals the worst starter on the floor for Denver in Miami

Now we're talking. Oh That is a bridge to Speculation okay, I have it hold on a second Now we're talking. Oh, whoa, that is a bridge to fire. Allegedly. Don't have the right reckless speculation hat for that. Okay, I have it. Hold on a second. Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good.

Thank you, I need that. I can't do it. Nobody was gonna do it. He was genuinely looking for Greg to play the role. Somebody to tell me that I was good. Thank you, I need that. I can't do it. Nobody was going to do it. He was genuinely looking for Greg to play the role. Somebody to tell me that I was good. I'm surprised you're bringing Michael into it. Well, he hasn't yet. We're about to get reckless.

Too far. What's the point of being reckless unless you're going to be reckless? Go all the way, man. Do it. Speculate, Dan. Well, just tell him he's good. Just say it.

Well, Juju said it, but I feel like, hold on. Well you need that chair to say you're good. Yeah, you're good. Go. Thank you. No problem. In the finals last year, Denver crushed Miami. Michael Porter was the worst starter in that series by leaps and bounds. I know this because before that series one of my expert opinions was you all are gonna learn how good a basketball player Michael Porter is and then we watched the finals together and none of us learned that and he made me embarrassed. So you got a grudge. So I have got a vindictive grudge. My bias, that's right, this is I

alleged to be a journalist. I alleged, I I alleged Lee, but I too bought by draft cake Yeah, I'm gonna lose Well, I bought this is the thing I went Michael Porter over on six and a half rebounds or something and then I'm looking out there and he's just wandering around And missing shots and it's two rebounds. I'm like, you're not trying but I can't prove it Yeah, but you're not bitter, but you're not that bad, but I can't prove it I can this guy it. Yeah, but you're not bitter, but you're not that bad, but I can't prove it I can't this guy got me this guy Allegedly might have taught his brother how to do this

It's all reckless and it's irresponsible Miss like 30 straight threes in the finals by the way, so bigger balls. On multiple Thursdays and thunders, not crash the boards. I mean, neither here nor there, but on 16 and 3. Got to follow your shot. And Michael Porter Jr., two of them. You can't miss 30 threes if you're only allowed to take 10.

Yes, thank you. Allegedly. Limit the threes. OK, I will not fix basketball today with Billy Gill. You're not trying. Well, we already fixed it. We're going to be perfectly on it. We're trying to fix it.

There's only one person fitting out. I have a stamp that says bigger balls. Limit the games, limit the threes. Seven million dollars please. I have a stamp that says fixed. Okay. Which way? Oh, hold on.

Wait a second. What was fixed? That's a good stamp. I like that both ways, that stamp where we can just, man, you don't think we can do a segment every day just called fixed allegedly allegedly allegedly Every day something in sports But let's if we're gonna let the walls come crumbling down then let's let them come crumbling down the gambling money is

everywhere it is Money is everywhere. It is. This is just the start of it. Oh, Tony, some nobody over Dan. Keep your eye on the bigger ball. Yeah. And don't put this on the companies. I say as someone that is totally unbiased, look at the perpetrators. Okay. I will entertain. I want to get to these other things, but I will entertain your bigger ball just this way. Just in order to... Thank you. Like you guys are minimizing my bigger ball thing and I really don't appreciate it because I haven't heard that anywhere. Make the ball a little bit bigger. Imagine that. What I'm telling... look there are any number of times I get dragged into God knows what sewer on the internet because somebody on this show has had an opinion

that then gets attached to me. Warren Sapp wants to kill me because he thinks that I think he has bad breath. Allegedly. Allegedly. I've never said that. He used an idea of allegation. Stugats. Allegedly. Stugats has said that.

Oh, wow. That's how you said it. I am willing to endorse though. I usually avoid, I prevent, I try, I'm like, they said said that one doesn't matter in this instance i am willing to endorse mike ryan's take one hundred percent as fixing basketball the the one fixed and not the other one we're talking about where the games are set by the john t porter sent allegedly

ball theory that he throws out there has only one problem in it. Because these guys are such scientists about shooting, the one time they did try to change the ball just a little, there was a revolt by the players because shooters could no longer shoot. So you want less scoring. I am not making Swaggy P a scientist, just for the record. And I understand, it was calamitous. But we have a problem here. Guys are chucking up 15 three-point shots a game, and the audience has voted saying that that is unappealing to the eye,

and they are voting with their remote control. So how do we legislate this without putting in absolute limits like Greg Cody is recommending? But why are you against that? Because not only does it help with the problem is, it adds a whole new strategy to the game. It's communist. It's un-American.

Let me shoot threes as much as I want for as long as I want with who I wanna do it with. Over the US! You change the rules? We don't limit. We explore our inhibitions over here and do so we what is America like Hedonism and big things so be hedonistic with a bigger ball. How's that working the hedonistic bigger things? How's that working? I mean, we're still on the metal sand when you look at the globe

All right, so I won't apologize for being on the metal stand. Okay. He's not gonna apologize for bigger balls He's not gonna do it I'm gonna apologize to the audience for not mentioning these six words in 52 minutes in. Paige Bukers, Juju Watson, and the kid herself, Caitlin Clark. Phenomenal performances. You know what, Juju, you're so right about this. Juju, I'm sorry. So let's, because this show, look at how male this show is right here.

Bigger balls. Well, this is what I'm gonna say, the advertising slogan, a big stamp on our show should be, for us and the NBA, it's hedonistic, bigger balls. But who's got bigger balls? The women. They do. Fixed. Kailin Clark and her entire team,

gutsy performance, her last performance in Iowa. Our sister Lucy was there, we might holler at her later in the show, but man, it was such a great team effort because the other team was West Virginia, they was playing their best game of the year, in my opinion. They had that look in their eyes, and then Kaitlyn Clark and them girls said,

no thank you, we're moving on. I saw that look, can co-sign it. She looked at the crowd and said, explicit word after explicit word. Yeah, it's kind of weird. It's like the internet's loose or alleging that she said, shut the bleep up. Yeah, she did.

I saw it. But she was at home. I saw it. Wait a minute, Greg saw it. Wait a minute, Greg saw it. Greg saw it. We've got a journal, I've seen it. We've got a fit.

No, your eyes can lie. Your eyes can lie. Look at what's his name's brother. Allegedly. Yeah, but she was at home. She was playing at home Why is she telling the home crowd to shut the blade up? Because a West Virginia fan was was on her a little bit and it's very you know, I'm not a lip reader

Very difficult to mistake that phrase very difficult to make it was pretty What was the phrase and then will I'll try to throw you off by shut the f up What was the phrase? And then we'll, I'll try to throw you off by saying it. Shut the F up was the phrase. Might have been get the F up for the crowd, but neither here nor there. That's not the interesting parts of what happened last night.

Chris Cody wished for America to sweat last night, America sweat, because it was a close game. Katelyn Clark was, because look man, she's the biggest star in the sport and the microscope is gonna be on her in a way that now if if you think politics aren't gonna come to sports everywhere watch what happens when everything escalates here and she gets accused of either sore loser or dirty because I don't think people understand

how hard it is to be as dominant in that sport as she is so the story from last night is who she played a close game. It looks like somebody's going to beat her because no one's as great as her. Right. And also the referees, salute to all the referees in the NCAA, get it together, men's league and the women's league.

There were some questionable no calls in that game and calls in that game for one team and neither, but neither here nor there, because it was an epic performance by her and her squad. Also, across the pond, if you will, we're calling it across the pond now. Juju Watkins and USC, gutsy performance last night,

late in the night. They don't get enough eyes from the East Coast because they have that window. It's so late, like LeBron and them girls. But it was a great performance by her. And then Gino tried to insert Paige in the best player of the year conversation last night, which is, oh, she's the best player in the league.

You feel me? Salute to Gino, but you brother are trippin' because there are girls out here who deserve that. But salute to Paige, you're doing a wonderful job. Okay, Lucy Leso. Everyone loves Lucy, but she's grifting a bit. It's like, I've gotta get to Iowan to eat ice cream. Like, what?

I've got to be part of the media. And Tony, you look like you appreciate the grift. Like you are- I always appreciate a good grift. You always have to have something in your back pocket, Dan. Oh, that's the thing. We want to be a part of this story.

Lucy's there. What kind of content? She's doing great work. She was eating ice cream. She was at a bar. We want to be a part of this story Lucy's there. What kind of content? She's doing great work I've denied the allegations Lucy was mentioning in that video several times how hard she was working on this video It's hard also Lucy is from Iowa. She went to the school. So her heart is on the court You feel me she couldn't get snapped in. She was worried. I love her. Well, I'll be happy to let you guys know

that I reached out to Lucy to see if she'll be joining us today to recap great game. Good executive producer work. Good rule with an iron fist. Well done, Billy. Is she actually gonna join us? No, she said she's not going to. She's flying today, but I reached out, so.

She's tired from that other video. She got flights to catch. She's got the giant imaging that. Do we have something from her work over there? MetalArk Media paid all sorts of money for the Iowa correspondent imaging so that everywhere she landed, look man, didn't we already reveal that in Iowa one time,

like a drone was flying over, we were trying to get our exclusives. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. In Iowa one time like a drone was flying over. We're trying to get our exclusive Do you have the Iowa correspondent Lucy Rodin, Iowa correspondent Maybe tomorrow what of her eating ice cream The other video it was so good free epa Hey, it's Mike and first off, let me thank you. A lot of people have hit me up privately, curious about my fishtail palms and I just got some landscaping done and let me tell you, they've never looked better.

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Don Lebatard. A recreation of the iconic scene in A Few Good Men as told by Chris Cody. Stugatz. Colonel Jessup, did you order the code red? You don't have to answer that question. I'll answer the question. You want answers? I think I'm entitled to them. You want answers? I want the truth! Ah, you can't handle the truth. This is The Don Lebatatar Show with the StuGats. I so love Jermell's diligence here. This is clearly an airport lounge.

There is so much to talk about though that we had to reach out and get her wherever it is that she was in the world She can be anywhere in the world because there is so much to talk about so Jamal I'm gonna offer you the floor and ask you which of yesterday's topics sports or otherwise Were the most into was the most interesting to you, but there's plenty of them, and I don't know what you're gonna choose Okay I'm thinking about I'm imagining myself on prices right right now or some game show i'm gonna pick otherwise

uh... because because we've got that what you've got on the list to mel you've got uh... to gambling stories in sports that are the are going to be the new normal whether we realize it or or not as soon as this all comes under inspection we have a catastrophe in Baltimore that is heartbreaking to talk about that is that is the video of which is crushing and we can all put ourselves in the inside of a calamity in that moment and it sort of brings a humanity together when you see when you can all imagine yourself in the same position of all life can go that quickly right from under my feet literally uh... and you've got uh... you've got ditty you've got kim mulkey

as well because the journalism around the kim mulkey story to me remains fascinating and what kim mulkey did on the offensive to make sure that whatever comes out next we're gonna shrug our shoulders and say is that all when is that all is probably going gonna be a toxic work culture that allegedly that everyone can condemn unless you file an under, well, she wins. So which is your choice, Jamel? Which of those would you like?

Well, damn, Dan, I feel like you wanted me to pick sports. Fine, Dan, I'll change my mind, I'll pick sports. No, and then I, and then, and Caitlin Clark. And then Caitlin Clark. There you go. Okay. Okay, there we go. Let's do it.

Let's go sports. Well, listen, I mean, it was, as you mentioned, a lot going on in these last couple of days. And I guess I'll just start with the last thing you mentioned, Kim Mulkey, for example. And this is unfortunately a part of the culture that we're in right now. You know, every day there's a fight to do good journalism. And I feel like that fight has been lost. You know, I hate to sound very pessimistic, as I often I find myself being these days.

But Kim Mulkey played from a playbook that has worked. They worked for the former president of the United States as well. Once you label the news media the enemy of the state, and once you are able to get people distracted from whatever is the information to come, listen, Kim Babb, who is supposedly the journalist who is working on the story, he should be very happy.

I don't know if the Washington Post was planning to put the story behind a paywall, but put one that by it now, because now we're all interested. Kim Mulkey basically drew attention to a fire we didn't even know was happening. And a lot of people look at this as a strategy to get out front. I think it was a bad strategy because we're more interested than ever in this story and not to mention even though she said afterwards that you know her team wasn't distracted I mean LSU didn't despite the final score they didn't play particularly well I'm not saying that these two things are related but we get on players all the time and use the word distraction to include everything under the sun and here you have the coach kind of doing the same thing. Listen, journalism has lost the overall fight. I mean, misinformation and disinformation is here. And now if you just label everything to be fake or label everything to be true, whether you've seen the evidence or not, that is enough of a seed that is planted in people's mind to already have an opinion about something that they haven't seen.

Investigative journalism is hard work. planted in people's mind to already have an opinion about something that they haven't seen. Investigative journalism is hard work. It's practically dead in our industry because it's costly, because there's only a limited number of people who can do it. And then, you know, on top of that, it creates a level of backlash that a lot of news organizations are no longer comfortable accepting. But do know this, the Washington Post has been at this a very long time. And Kim Mulkey can threaten her threatening the paper that brought us Watergate that took down Richard Nixon is laughable and amusing in itself. I mean, a lot of how Kim Mulkey has behaved has been

excused, I think. I mean, I think she's gotten a pretty golden pass when you look at the totality of the things that she said and done. And some of that has to do that we're still in this phase right now with women's sports and especially with women's basketball as it's exploding before our very eyes, that there is a protectiveness that is put over the sport because it has been unfairly treated by the NCAA.

News media organizations have not put a lot of resources into covering women's sports. So what you do get sometimes is this need to not just protect it, but to cheerlead for it. And because of that, a lot of the things and toxic traits that we've seen in male sports for a long, long time, they exist on the women's side as well, and they go undercover because, frankly, they haven't't a lot of what has been covered in women's sports has not been covered

with the same level of scrutiny and to the degree that men's sports have. And so Kim Mulkey has frankly gotten a pretty big pass, given her level of success. This is not new unique in the sense that we've seen very powerful coaches who are able to win and bring Championships they are allowed to let behave as they want to behave as long as they're winning. So I'm very curious I mean this could be anything from Kim Mulkey cut somebody off in traffic to massive NCAA violations to traffic Toxic culture as you mentioned, I have no idea but I know that I'm interested now But I hate it for our profession that this is once again shedding a light on what is the state of journalism at this moment.

I mean, you named off a lot of things, gambling. All right, let's do gambling next. I'm currently working on a piece about that for the other. No, hold on, hold on, hold on. I want to get all of this with you, but I have some journalism questions as well. Okay. But you hijack the show. Okay. Stop that gambling conversation. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.

It would be great if this whole thing was over like a traffic violation or she cut someone off right. She's just like so upset that they've like interviewed so many people about it. Remember Dan, you're implicated in normalizing sports spending across the state. Somebody writes in here, is Dan going to be mad at everyone again for not being surprised Kim Mulkey is a POS? Everyone knows. Nobody cares because she wins. Literally the story of every POS sports person ever.

I know what POS means. I don't think Billy knows what POS means. Can you elaborate? Thank you. Piece of shit. Oh! Piece of shit is, everyone knows this, but she wins. Well, I watch Bar Rescue.

It means something different. Yes. Have some integrists. Point of service system, touch screen. Jermell. You got seven free ones! I've got him on a loop in my house. I can't stop watching him.

He just keeps yelling It's one of my five favorite shows on tv like in a bucket list of things that I want to do that I want to accomplish and however long I have left on this magical earth I want to be on the recon team for bar rescue. I want the shitty beer I want the food that will probably make me sick and throw up all night john taffer if you're listening Recruit me for the recon team. This is great. I got something to run by you. What's your opinion on bigger balls?

Hell yeah. In the NBA, to restrict people from shooting outside, having balls that are just slightly bigger. I didn't know where that was going. Cause my back is early in the morning, I was like, what? It'll legislate shots from downtown on its own if you naturally have a ball that's maybe just increased

by like a centimeter. Can I explain to Jamel that we want a new advertising campaign for basketball that fixes everything, not the games, but the images and the scoring and the problems, and we're saying be hedonistic, bigger balls. Fix games. Fix games.

Limit threes. Fix games, okay. Alrighty, well. Magnistic bigger balls fix games fix games Fix games, okay That's a good turn as they say I I was not prepared to have an opinion about bigger balls, but I'll lean into you all's expertise because clearly you've thought about this much longer than I have good She she wants only areas... These aren't ornaments, these serve a purpose. Areas of expertise because I want to get into the thicket, Jermell, so to speak, of the specifics of how this story comes to be because you say investigative work but this is an enterprise reporter. This is not two years of reporting, this is somebody who's wanted to do this story for two years but hasn't been working exclusively on it we've been trying to get the writer on because i want to understand what more

little more what kim mulkey just did what the strategy of it was in today's america where the playbook for the strategy of what's going to be reported here by an enterprise reporter right now kim monkey knows because the questions told her she knows we don't know and everything she did the other day was preemptive it was strategic it had more thoughts in it as a defense than anything otani did and what she does by

neutering it before it gets started is the reporting has to be so vigorous on are you going to use this person of toxic workplace culture being cruel and demeaning to human beings are you going to choose her of that and she can ward it off by saying well it's just embellishments i'm telling you on the front end this is a hit piece when it's not that that i can assure you of that's not gratuitously something meant to harm her It was somebody who went to report that story a feature on her life

And then came upon a bunch of things that are probably going to be a really uncomfortable about what her workplace is That's what I would guess Well and people have to understand this too is that when you have fascinating figures figures in sports and Dan when You were at the Miami Herald, you did this many, many times, is that you seek as a journalist to understand why they're so successful. Why have they been able to create the winning and the championships and all the things

that she's been able to create? So the natural curiosity should be there in explaining who this woman is and how she's risen the power. Now, lately and certainly beyond the championships, the reason that Kim Mokie often is in the news is not usually the best reason. It's not usually the best publicity for her

or for her program or for the school. I mean, when you look at the whole season that LSU has had, look at where it started. It started with Angel Reese mysteriously being gone. There being some hints of some kind of discord or some kind of problem happening within the team. We know about Kim Mulkey's very frosty, attitude toward Brittany Greiner,

particularly when she was being detained in Russia. There've been all these elements and all these, you know, pieces that have been leading us up to who is this woman and how is it that she came to be this way. So that is a very natural question for any journalist to ask and this particular journalist is considered to be one of the best. And typically what we shouldn't do when we walk into these situations is write the story in our head or in our mind before we actually do some reporting. And it's possible, it is just what you said, that he started reporting on this story

to try to explain this towering figure in women's basketball and came upon something that she clearly finds distasteful based off the questions that she had been asked. Now, as you know, covering sports, as long as you have Dan and I see my man Greg sit next to you and I'm sure he could chime in on this as well, is that a lot of times these people in sports who are in these positions don't wanna be questioned.

They don't want anything beyond the narrative that they try to set. And when you come upon or you're able to report and explain a different narrative than what they presented, they get very, very mad about this. So the reaction is not new. It's something that we've seen virtually with anybody who has any prominence in sports.

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No, he was saying, man, I can do such a great Kendrick Oh, I don't wanna play this game. He's like, man, I can talk to you, it's like a- This is who we're gonna trust with this. Let's let Amin do it, I think I think you could do it Chris Cuz you did a great Charles Barkley your one-for-one there. Did no one just hear the segment We just did with Amin we cannot be taking judgment Is that the council from the local drunk on whether or not you?

Should do the impersonation of a black man stumbling over his words like you don't see the bad There was Mose and moody moody Moses Moses Moody it sounds worse be careful man we cannot do this it's too close to the line this is where the line is something legitimately funny can't be funny because we're scared our ginger's gonna do something racist by accident

carry the hell on Dan. Dan the line is where we feel alive though. This is the Dan LeVatar show with the StuGuts. Comrades real quick how can we have an integrist conversation about journalism when we're dodging questions about bigger balls? Wow, this is I'm gonna press you on these bigger balls. You have not answered the question would bigger balls fix the NBA I'm sorry. I'm too immature to even well see this is This is why he insists on wasting your time when we have. This is not a waste of time. You haven't heard that anywhere. Just make the ball just a little bit bigger. I'm fixing the game that clearly has an issue. I'm trying to do a serious thing with my

journalist friend who knows about that. I mean, we haven't even. Your journalist friend is dodging a very simple question. How do you feel about bigger balls in the NBA? So you want, so when you want this to be like the carnivals that we go to, you know, the street carnivals and stuff where that's how they rig it. Those are smaller rigs! Talking about bigger balls! It's a different thing! More cost-effective this way. Okay, I don't want to talk about bigger balls. An epiphany? I do have a question for you, Jamel. I think after two years of reporting in a very aggressive press conference by Kim Mulkey, I'm concerned that if what comes out of this is toxic workplace, that might not be enough for the American

public. They're going to and much to do about nothing like she's the only one who has that's not what that's what's brilliant about the strategy jim el i think that the thing i was mentioning again and again yes rinsed on strategy but it's a brilliant one if you can neuter all the hard work that you have to do to get all of these accusations vetted so that they're not something that can be proven false and that the person is threatening you with a lawsuit before you ever get

started can undermine all of your reporting just by shouting fake news hit piece it doesn't that the defect you cannot defend you can defend yourself very easily against good fact-based journalism that way if it's that unfair of a fight and and Jamel's here to tell you that all over the media the journalism has like it's self-inflicted this wound this credibility wound is self-inflicted Jamel. Yeah it is I mean despite the fact again that we had a former president who brought fake news to the lexicon and really, you know,

sort of put a target on all journalists back with his behavior towards journalists and everything that was ever written negative about him calling it fake news. I agree with you. The reality is that the journalism as a news industry, as an industry period has been complicit in its own demise. Let's look at what's happening at NBC right now

where they have hired, you know, Ronna McDaniel, industry period has been complicit in its own demise. Let's look at what's happening at NBC right now where they have hired Ronna McDaniel, who is the former Republican National Committee head who actively tried to steal an election. Okay, this is not an opinion. This is not a conjecture. We know what she did. And she made calls to Michigan election officials

to try to get them to not certify the election. And we know she did this. It is on record. And to platform somebody like that and have the own journalists within your organization rebelling against this hire, it just shows you where you are. Like everybody's boiled everything down to a disagreement or, but we can't have disagreement about facts. That's what we can't do. And unfortunately,

we are in the age where it's okay to, if the sky is blue and we all see it for somebody to call us red, and then everybody say we should tolerate that opinion just because it's different. It's like, no, that's not how it works. You can't debate and disagree with the facts. You can do great debate and disagree with opinions with things that are not facts-based, fact-based with feelings, with emotions. You could debate those all day. You can't debate what's in front of you. The unfortunate part of it, as we see this political cycle playing out heading into this election. The news media has learned absolutely nothing from how it covered the last two presidential elections.

Hasn't learned a thing. They are platforming people who can drive ratings. Most of them, major corporations and news as we know, are run by people who are more interested in what is financially possible or the financial interest of this company. They are not interested in the journalism, the who, what, why, where, why of it all is boring now. You have to have this scintillating entertainment that has made political journalism and journalism period feel a lot more no disrespect like wrestling as opposed to feeling like something

that should matter to people. Like the part of the reason why this democracy works is because we have a functioning free press. Well, that functioning free press is on life support right now, not necessarily because it lacks the freedom, it's because they lack the guts and the honesty and the grit that it takes to do this kind of reporting.

Journalists aren't supposed to be liked. We all knew that when we got into this job, but we are supposed to tell the truth. And once you eliminate that part of it, along with the accountability, this is why it's okay to platform election deniers. This is why you have coaches in press conferences calling something fake and saying

that something shouldn't be listened to or regarded in any light because it somehow paints you in a bad light. This is why we have this entire conversation going on in our business and I would say I fear it's destroying the business. I feel like we've already lost. It has destroyed the business. Jermell you said in there no disrespect wrestling. I know you were saying that to wrestling and wrestling fans. I know you were saying that to wrestling and wrestling fans, but I thought you were saying-

High horse, I saw her at a WrestleMania once. It's having a moment, it's cool. I was at WrestleMania, it's true. It's not lying. Wayne beat Cody's ass last night. I threw shade at something, polite shade, polite shade. But it was polite. I threw polite shade at something I attended.

But when I took it, we were talking about journalism and i took it as you were saying to us no disrespect but uh... us the wrestling show that introduces you with its heathenistic bigger balls that we were playing the part of wrestling and this is the question i want to ask you it's a yes or no question because i want to get to the ditty stuff i think you've got uh... valuable insight for us here but this is a yes or no question in and you can only say yes or no in women's basketball are we headed here with caitlyn clark

and the competitiveness of whatever it is this is going to look like against uh... you know uh... white against black because sociology always comes to sports are we looking at a possibility that we get white versus black around Caitlin Clark like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson? Did to birth the league many years ago as a television spectacle? Are we gonna get the race element of all of this to make an appearance in a way? That's gonna create real rivalry and storyline. Yes or no Before I answer do we have to cue the Friendly Neighborhood Race Lady music or no?

Or can I just answer? Yes, we'll do that, but Billy has to do that anyway. Just short it and join us, sir. You want to ruin it? It's time for Your Friendly Neighborhood Race Lady! And to answer your question, yes, Dan. Yes, we are getting that. The racial pornography started last year in the championship between Iowa and LSU

and that racial pornography will continue. It was just a yes or no question. She's elaborating. Yes. No, but it was just. It requires an elaboration, quite honestly. Thank you. That's not, I know, but I didn't.

I believe you pressed her on that and not the bigger balls there. Okay. She still hasn't answered it. I didn't want to press the bigger balls. Most people hadn't considered it. Let's stop pressing the bigger balls there. Okay. I didn't want to- She still hasn't answered it. I didn't want to press the bigger balls. She didn't want most people ahead and considered it. Let's stop pressing the bigger balls. Jermell, the Diddy story that captured the internet,

the internet was meant for that story, and I thought I was watching sort of, this is gonna be OJ Simpson, right? Is he gonna do what Russell Simmons did? So what did we see yesterday? All of it alleged. All of it alleged. All of it alleged. Let's throw that big A word out there.

You know what we saw for a lot of people, as we've seen as these figures have continued to fall, we saw somebody who, for a lot of us, who grew up in the age, the heyday of bad boy. We saw the crumbling of something that is been like an institution in many ways. You know, this is my early 20s, like just going up in smoke.

And I know there's been a lot of that lately. I don't feel sad for Diddy. I don't feel, I feel empathy for his children for sure, because that had to be a startling image for a lot of people. And I'm sure certainly for him to see his children for sure, because that had to be a startling image for a lot of people. And I'm sure certainly for him to see his children in handcuffs. But this is where we are right now.

Diddy is facing a number of very serious allegations that were all played out. Most of these have been civil allegations. But you knew that at some point, the criminal element of this would surface, and it has. And you know, you mentioned Russell Simmons, there have been similar allegations about him. And what you have found is that this art form, you know, hip hop that was created, there is an underbelly of disgust that has existed in this art form for a long time. That doesn't mean the art form didn't serve its purpose. It doesn't mean that it wasn't revolutionary and the success that has been there and that has been connected especially obviously to the Black community. That doesn't

mean that those things that it has brought to our community go away but there have you know somebody told me this a long time ago and I I remember when they said it, I was just like, ah, that's, you know, I just sort of blew it off. But it is true. Your favorites are probably problematic and they're probably awful. And, you know, it's just one of those things that, while there have been rumors about Diddy for years,

I never thought that this moment would actually come where you would see this man who was responsible for bringing in or taking hip hop to a new height for bringing in the artists that we have loved our whole lives, that you would see him essentially in a situation where it almost looks like he's on the run. It was just very surreal to you know, to see. And I know a lot of the chatter,

at least among in my group chats with my friends after so many of the memes were shared, not to belie the seriousness of it, but for a lot of us that grew up in that 90s heyday listening to bad boy music or listening to puffy inspired music, it was just kind of like, wow, I just never would have guessed when I was in college bopping to some of this that fast forward 30 years

later that this man's reputation would be completely destroyed. I mean, there's to me, regardless of what happens criminally, there is no coming back for for Diddy at all. I mean, I think the last time we discussed this, I said as much. I think his reputation is permanently destroyed, but if he has done any, even a tenth of what he's accused of, I don't really have a problem with it.

Right, seeing him walk around that airport disheveled was my first time seeing the crack in his demeanor, his armor. It's like, wow,, he had a lot of opportunities to show it earlier, but yesterday I feel like with seeing his children in handcuffs, I feel like the reality of the situation is finally actually setting in for real.

Jamel, we have less than 30 seconds here. Please close it out for us. Well, you know what else struck me about this situation too? And it just, again, it's one of those snapshots where you're like, this is where we are in America. Here you have Diddy facing multiple, you know, we don't know what he's facing criminally,

but we do know again on the civil side, multiple allegations of sexual assault, very degrading, dehumanizing behavior, all of that. And then at the same time, we have the leading presidential candidate for the Republican Party who is facing 91 felony counts, who has credibly been convicted of rape in the case with E. Jean Carroll, who is facing millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars in legal fees and payments that he owes for his behavior.

And he's running for president and Diddy's there in Miami circling a building trying to figure out how his life fell apart. And I just the juxtaposition of that really struck me when I was watching yesterday. I was like, so I guess Diddy should have just been running for president. I know we out of time. You know what I mean? Thank you, Neighborhood Race Lady. But I run the social media council. I see all the hatred that comes your way. That was your friendly Neighborhood Race Lady. I see all the hatred that comes your way. And I want to say from the community, we admire you and we love you, sis. Thank you so much for representing us in the right way

all the time. I appreciate that. Thank you all for having me. And now I'm going to get out of my hostage closet and go catch this flight. Thank you. We appreciate the time. Jamel didn't answer. Keep dodging the tough questions. Didn't answer the hard hitting question though. Never did.

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