The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Jerry Jones, Bill Belichick, and Cyber Squatting (feat. Dianna Russini)

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

Have you ever been tempted to buy a domain name to sit on it and ultimately sell it? Well, unsurprisingly, Stugotz has. He and Billy search to find the right domain for purchase. Then, Taylor delivers an update on Bill Belichick's early tenure at North Carolina. Plus, Dianna Russini is here to discuss which coaches would wear a swim shirt, which NFL owners are the best actors, what's going on with the Jaguars, why the Texans always play this game, and if the Browns can win Mike back with a selection of the best QB in UM history Cam Ward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries

that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan LeBattard show with Stu Gotz is presented by Venmo. I've got a pretty This episode of the Dan LeBattard Show with Stugatz is presented by Venmo. I've got a pretty good stat of the day to get to in a second, but before I do that there are a couple of things that I wanted to put in front of the audience.

One of them, Stugatz, that I'm having some difficulty with is that we had two weeks off and yesterday i was bombarded bombarded with questions about something that happened in and around sports and only one thing in a way that was really unusual and it was because last two weeks about a lot of sports and a lot of interesting stories a lot of stuff i've seen the numbers if we talk to Butler and Tyreek Hill, you guys love that.

Just the transaction, the mess. This is content eating time for all these people that Billy can't criticize because everybody's in the content business right now. I never know who's gonna be a future boss. Don't stop him, he's about to get to Laranaga. Haven't even gotten to Laranaga yet. No longer the university of

miami's basketball coach like this seven thing on the list that happened locally but that fox sports lawsuit is something that people really want to clock in gossip about andy it's also something stood out that is in this amazing content sweet spot of the mainstream is not going to discuss it in any way and the internet is going to chew it up fairly or unfairly and it does not matter that a lawsuit can be just anything you say to a lawyer and that doesn't mean

it's fair to any of the people who get dragged by this. Now I don't know, obviously, what is true or what isn't true in that lawsuit, but I do know that, man, for all of the people who complain about how often I talk about sports media, this one you want me to talk about. Like, you're desperate for me to say the things that show you the inner workings of what might be true

or might not be true in that lawsuit. And i'm going to talk about some parts of this that i find interesting in in a second but before i do that i just want to point out to you guys what was happening during the break in here with stu got still happening uh... still gots is not listening to me still got since the last segment has been on a busy busy search of the internet still got his always been since i've known him get rich quick guy and so what he was saying before the break i can't believe

i didn't grab dicks he wanted the domain name twelve years ago and he's like, can you imagine the fortune? He's been looking up nothing but domain names for the last 10 minutes. Now, Dicks.com sold back in 2011 the domain. Now, the price is undisclosed, but bowlingballs.com, a domain we all should have grabbed many, many years ago, that sold for $275,000. Cars.com, which is something that should have

been obvious to everyone. I'm upset with myself. Someone grabbed it and eventually sold it for $872 million. Vacationrentals.com sold for $35 million. And what I'm thinking about is the future and what domains I should grab today. Billy, let's get on this. Well, Billy's making faces at you. He's tired of your get rich quick schemes. I mean, if we're doing behind the bit, there's a funny story about us getting scooped on a website. And it was the launch of the t-shirt store, where we got very excited and we announced what the t-shirt store was going to be.

And then a fan bought the URL because we didn't dot our I's and cross our T's. And then we didn't have the domain that we wanted, and we had to pivot. I thought ESPN would have been on that. Somehow it got overlooked. And we just blurred it out. That guy held us hostage, and we were just like,

you can have it. But Mike, when the internet came out, aren't you upset with yourself for not grabbing Christmas.com, which sold for $3.15 million? Of course. A bargain, by the way, for Christmas. All we grabbed was no source insider.com. How does cyber squatting work?

Because sometimes it doesn't, right? Sometimes can't they just take the site from you and be like, no, you're just trying to cyber squat here. You don't own this. Is that true? Is there imminent domain for web addresses? I think that there can be, right? Sometimes can't they just take the site from you like, no, like you're just trying to cyber squad here. You don't own this. Is that true? Is there imminent domain for her for web address? I think that there can be right?

Like I can't just go and buy Nike.com if they let it expire for some reason. Like if you were just sitting on COVID relief.com and then you saw the news stories at Wuhan and you're like, yes, yes. Some guys still trying to give me $2,000 for the slow report. You should take it

You're doing nothing but I haven't tweeted anything. Yeah. Oh wait. Have you reported bill Belichick's going to UNC yet? I heard it's not today Been great so far at North Carolina with bill Belichick. We will get an update there in a second We will get a stat of the day in a second. We will to Diana Rusini in a second. We'll get to that Fox Sports Lawson damn. I thought we got it away Covered in a second off. There's a lot of stuff to get to but if you guys had heard what it was During the break Stu got to actually said to me. He's sausage fingers hitting the keyboard He's crushing it and he actually says to me he's sausage fingers hitting the keyboard he's crushing it and he actually says to me can you imagine if I had gotten the domain name

to DraftKings and then there's like three seconds of silence and we both said at the same time they just would have changed their name I'm surprised Dix didn't go to Rick's I mean you know I'm excited to have Diana on because I the the Bill Belichick contract thing is interesting to me there's like a weird June 1st actually I should not be talking about this I have someone that is well more informed. Happy New Year buddy. Happy New Year to all. How's the Bill Belichick thing going? Uh, it's a slow burn. But so far, Bill Belichick has hired two people. Yeah.

His son as the defensive coordinator, and then Works hard. Lombardi's son as the quarterback coach. So and we also got Purdue's backup quarterback. That's a good one. They had one win. Yes. So we got not the starter, but the guy

who couldn't beat out the starter. Purdue was like one of the three worst teams in the sport this year. Listen, Bill, see something in that kid, and that's all I need to know. I appreciate all your hard work, Taylor. Thank you for. I must admit, I thought the cache of Bill Belichick.

And year one is always hard. Even for recruiting-based coaches, it is very difficult to have that kind of class. But I thought the cache of Bill Belichick, the name in the portal, guys would just take visits out of curiosity. And it seems that it's gonna take Bill a little bit to navigate these waters.

So what did you wanna ask Diana Rusini, our foremost NFL insider? Diana, is there a possibility, because I don't think a $10 million buyout, it going from one million to 10 million is going to stop an NFL owner If they think bill Belichick is the answer during this coaching cycle It doesn't appear like he's in the mix for any any of these jobs But could it be is there a scenario if an NFL team?

Shows legitimate interest and thinks bill Belichick is the answer say the Jacksonville Jaguars who I know the cons Like bill Belichick if they up and decide, you know what? UNC be damned, this is the right guy. We'll pay $10 million, that's nothing to us. Do you think Bill Belichick would entertain that? Diana? Oh, I didn't know that you guys were coming to me now. I thought you were teasing ahead of what you wanted

to ask me. Hi guys. Did you hear what I said, though? I did. I heard you loud and clear. You just didn't know it was a question for you? I think Milk.com is available. I find that impossible.

If a team shows interest in Bill Belichick, would Bill Belichick actually entertain that? Because I don't see the $10 million buyout thing stopping an NFL owner. Yeah, I don't think so either. I don't think that's that much money for an owner if he really wants. And the problem is I don't know of an owner right now in the league that's looking for a head coach that is sitting there going, okay, these options are not good enough. Let's go call up Bill Belichick. If you guys remember

on the show we talked about right before Bill took that job at UNC, on the show we talked about right before Bill took that job at UNC, the oddest of connections between Bill Belichick and the New York Jets came to light, where right before he took the UNC job, he was talking to them about possibly meeting and having a conversation. And you guys know the history with Belichick and the New York Jets, and he spent the whole season on the Manning cast, on every podcast that we know, taking shots at Woody Johnson, taking shots at the organization.

A guy that resigned after a day when he was named the head coach there. So the fact that he communicated with Mike Tannenbaum, who's running that Jets search team to see if maybe he could get in there, tells me that is really where his heart has been. He was willing to go work for an owner he doesn't even respect based on how he's talked about him on the air. But to him I think being a coach with all the power is still what he wants.

And that's why I think Jacksonville is off the table Mike because look who's still the GM there, Trent Bulky. Bill Belichick does not want to work with Trent Bulky. That is not a situation that was ever going to pan out. Why do they like Trent Bulky so much over there in Jacksonville? He seems to have a stranglehold on that position. And it's a little curious. I think I think it's a little bit of his own doing in terms of being a good relationship person with the owners. He's really earned that belief from them that that he knows what he's doing. But also people tell me that he's a really hard worker. He's one of those guys. He's always in the building. He's really earned that belief from them that he knows what he's doing. But also people tell me that he's a really hard worker.

He's one of those guys. He's always in the building. He's always around. And Mike, I do think in this process, a lot of owners don't want to clear house without anyone being in charge to help with the process. Because you get rid of the GM, you get rid of the head coach.

Who's calling the shots? You are as the owner. And I don't necessarily believe every owner feels that comfortable calling the shots in terms of the football operation. So Trent is a little bit of that safety net for them as they cast a pretty wide net here as we're seeing Aaron Glenn and Liam Cullen,

Matt Nagy, Anthony Weaver, all these guys expected to get interviews with the Jacksonville Jags. Diana, Rex Ryan is telling people he expects to be hired by the Jets. Will he be hired by the Jets? I love his strategy, right? It's like he is forcing them,

he's trying to sort of manipulate the process. Like I'm telling you you're hiring me. And they're like, yeah, no, we're not doing that. Right? Like we're, thank you. I appreciate it. And you gotta love the confidence. And I will say, in a pool of coaches right now

that doesn't have that much experience, I see what Rex is doing. And I think he's gonna do really well in this interview because I know the Jets, Mike Tannenbaum again leading that search, they are looking for someone who knows what they're doing, who can navigate this journey for them, who knows all the booby traps and the hurdles that come with being a New York Jets head coach and if anyone knows it it's it's Rex Ryan. But don't you think it's funny that Mike Tannenbaum, the general manager of the New York Jets that was fired,

who fired Rex Ryan as the head coach, and now they're all sitting together in Palm Beach at Woody Johnson's house, talking about how together they can come up with a winning way. It's bonkers. This is a message from sponsor Intuit Turbo Tax. Guys, Taxes was dealing with piles of paperwork and frustrating forms and then waiting and wondering and worrying if you're going to get any money back. Now, Taxes is easily uploading your forms to a Turbo Tax expert who's matched to your unique tax situation.

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See guaranteed details at TurboTax.com slash guarantees. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. Pool of Coaches is a totally different game. Yes, I love it. And I love it and I want to play it. Which coach is going in the pool with their shirt on? I'll tell you who's not. Andy Reid is going tarp off. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Tarp off? Tarp on. No, he's going off. He's got the shirt off. He does a cannonball right into the pool. Yeah. Zagack.

Yeah, it's interesting. When you talk about the Chiefs right now, they're at a point where they've got like 20-something days off, and Andy told the guys after the game, guys that stay in shape, let's keep our weight down, I've gotta keep my weight down. So he's very self-aware of what's going on there, so I'm with you that I think he knows enough at this point in his life that you know what, who cares?

Just take the shirt off and jump in there. Stu Gotz has a top five list of most pressure in the playoffs. I want to get to that in a second. I also want to play some video here for Diana. A lot of people were stunned by this. You guys give me all the information I need here on. Jerry Jones has a 10 part documentary

that Netflix has paid $50 million for that I'm sure is going to be riveting because Jerry Jones, accomplished mercenary salesman, has been a great actor for many, many years. And so to see him acting well is not surprising because I've been watching him do it since he was a nobody who didn't know anything who just sort of stumbled his way into oil and the cowboys,

and then spent the next 30 years not winning much of anything after Jimmy Johnson, but always keeping his team. So interesting that it's the only 10-part documentary you're gonna get on a Jerry Jones. Metal art finished second there, that hurt. We could've made that one. We could've made that one.

That one would've been good, and I'm sure it will be good. You're going first, you're last. But let's play the acting of Jerry Jones recently here and see from the audience and you guys how surprised you are by this. I'm not saying I've done anything right, but I made my mind up a long time ago. I was gonna work with my kids.

They're involved in everything. They're involved in my leasing, oil and gas, real estate. And so when I got to come with, I got it so that we could all work together. I thought I was doing it for them. But the one that got the most out of it was me. I just know it's not gonna be this time, but you're going to be sitting here sometime in the future, laying here sometime in the future.

And this room is going to be full of your business associates and the people you've worked with all your life. And more than likely, your children and family are going to be there because they're your children and your family. But you could have them there because they're the people you your family. But you could have them there because they're the people you spent your life with, you worked with, you fell down with, you got up with. Not just Thanksgiving and Christmas.

That's who you want to be with. So when that time comes like this, it's a celebration of your life and you're not wishing you to spend a little more time seeing a few more suns come up. That's the trick. That's the trick. Because that's going to be your glory. But I'm pretty proud of them Cowboys.

I'm pretty proud of the stuff we've done in oil and gas. That is opposite John Hamm and Billy Bob Thornton and he owns the room for two minutes of acting. Jerryjones.com is available. See if you can get that. Diana, what are your thoughts on what it is that you just witnessed there? Mike is stunned in the back room saying floored

So good, it's so good But it wasn't like it was a reach in terms of that character of what he was talking about It was pretty reflective of his own life of his own feelings. It's it's not like we're asking him to go out there You know name a situation right now where it would be something out of sorts for Jerry Jones. Can't be nitpicking his reign. Ridiculous, ridiculous. Come on, Diana.

This is the greatest act of my scene. You gotta be shitting me, Diana. Like you can find any reason to criticize this man. I have so many questions watching that. I wanna know how many takes, I wanna know where he put his head at, like did he have an acting coach? How many times they went through this?

I want to know what Jon Hamm thought about that. That was incredible. My question is, is there another owner in football that could go toe to toe with Jerry Jones in that scene? Who could do that? Arthur Blank? It is a good question. Arthur Blank? It is, no Arthur Blank could not do that. I would love to see the audition.

No, no. Woody Johnson? Arthur Blank, no. John Marra, John Marra. He's got acting in his blood. You think the owner of Home Depot, who we have accused because of his mustache of having a house that's haunted,

you believe that Arthur Blank can throw down in acting with what we just saw, which is John Hamm and Billy Bob Thornton silently awed by the tears in Jerry Jones' eyes. Jimmy Haslam auditioning for the role. This is where my head went. I went to the owner's meetings,

and when I'm running around the lobby in the hotel trying to talk to all these guys, who holds court with presence, right? Who sits there and just owns that circle of reporters that are asking them a million questions. Most owners are awkward and uncomfortable by it. Arthur Blank is comfortable in that circle. John Marra, obviously you saw him talking about

Dable and Joe Shane yesterday. He's comfortable. He's probably the best answer because obviously his niece, excuse me, his granddaughter is a famous actress herself. So I will track my answer on Arthur Blake. I'll say John Marra is my number one. You know what? Forgive me.

Have you not gotten familiar with the work of Jimmy Haslam? Can I get some more Jimmy Haslam auditioning for this? In that room with your family, some of them may have aided you in coupon and rebate scandals that you got away with somehow because of money. And your daughter's there, don't forget, she's the reason why you acquired Deshaun Watson. It's entirely on her, not you.

And your family's there, and that one unhoused gentleman that told you to draft Johnny Manziel. I do enjoy this impression. I don't even think that's how Jimmy Haslam, I don't do a Tennessee accent. I was just thinking, have you ever heard Jimmy Haslam talk? He talks slower, he asks a lot more questions to you,

and he thinks it through. So you're, just take the pace down a little bit. What do you think when you see that unhoused gentleman over there that told me to draft Johnny Manziel, John Hamm? Good, better, better. Thank you, thank you for helping him, Diane. We can craft that character a little bit. It's the content generation right now.

Everybody wants to get in the game. Jerry Jones is a 10-part documentary as Mike McCarthy sniffs the Chicago Bears' job. You would think he would have secured that domain, I mean, if he wasn't getting the game. I gotta see Mark Davis's audition tape. Mark Davis, sorry for the noise here in the P.F. Chang's. You need to, Stugatz, get Jerry Jones dot com, please. You need to purchase that.

I'm securing that. I'm securing many things, including DanLevittor.com. How about that? I think Robert Kraft would do well. Don't you think Kraft would be good? Not as good as Ursay, but Kraft would be good. Wait a minute. I saw Kraft acting with his 20th year of acting. I think Robert Kraft would do well. Don't you think Kraft would be good? Not as good as Ursay, but Kraft would be good. Wait a minute, I saw Kraft acting with his 20th year old

girlfriend. I saw that tape, yeah. That tape, he was not acting well, Diana. Are you not familiar with this tape? I'm not. OK, you will revise your answer. Video, see if you can find that for me and throw it up somewhere.

Somewhere in America, there is a person that that for me and throw it up somewhere. Somewhere in America there's a person that has perfected and crafted a Dean Spanos impression for 20 years waiting for this moment to die. Just die. Diana, I want your commentary here to the degree that you can. I know we can't telestrate this, but if there's a way to show you, Mina Kimes is still an amazing novice sometimes when it comes to the very basic tools in this business. Now keep in mind, I watched her on Netflix and I saw her be better than RG3

and Manti Teo on football, more informative. And I was like, man, she is bringing heat on a Netflix telecast that I was stunned how well all of that went to god the televising these giant things live or not easy these things are not easy and netflix crushed it on christmas day and may have crushed it on christmas day but what i miss most about me know was the rawest version of her here where she just doesn't know where things are she gets distracted by the

smallest things let's play for the audience here mean a times having no earthly idea where she is on television as she just sort of walks into a camera shot and I and I want you to break this down for me and just explain your friend to us. It was certain Baltimore what we know about the availability of say flowers Saturday night against the Steelers hey Nina get it girl

go back one more time there. I got to go sit back down. And now she's just absolutely horrified that she stepped into the shot just have me to keep walking. I'm sure there's right nobody cares. So we're mean I want to see more Mina, less Adam anyways. And now she's just horrified. Marcus is being a good big brother there

with the arm around her like, look, it's not a big deal. It happens. You step, first of all, I've sat in that studio a million times. There's like 90 cameras. So I'm with Mina, I feel bad for her there. How much she's supposed to know? But by the way, why are you having her move

during the show anyways? Just have her sit there, look at her on Netflix. She sat in that same spot pretty much the whole show and I'm with you. My takeaway from Netflix actually was, and this isn't some female empowerment moment here, I thought the women held that entire broadcast down, though held it up, right?

Kay Adams was a star, Laura Rutledge was an absolute star, Mina Kimes, all three of them. It was like they've done this every day because they do do it every day. Reps certainly help, but they were certainly the most educated, most poised, most conversational, so credit to that and that was awesome. MinaKimes.net is available and.au.

Mina, not a good actor. I've had to do stuff with her, not good. Hold it up and hold it down. Like I know what you meant there because she did hold it down, but you corrected yourself and you meant, you said hold it up, but she held it down. Like which did she do?

She held, the women held down the Netflix telecast and that's a positive, that's a compliment. And lifted it up. Which would you rather, to hold it up or to hold it down? Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Hold it up. I'd rather lift something up. You lift up and hold down.

Sounds heavy, I have a bad back. It does sound heavy. I would rather hold it down. But just holding it down. No, but you hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy, you don't hold it down. Yeah, holding it down, I just kinda just met expectations, lifting it up.

I think there's strength in holding it down, and push down. Either way, we're keeping it steady. I'm in control. You hold up, your arms get tired, your back goes out a little, the legs get a little weak. You hold down, and I think you're in more control. You have all the power.

So thanks, Mina, for holding it down. You, yesterday, Billy, you told me that if the Dolphins had a backup quarterback who could have just merely held it down, they'd be championship contending. I said this? Yes, you said it. I said that. Yes.

Okay, I said that yesterday. You made it about the backup quarterback. You kept telling me that the Dolphin season was all about the backup quarterback. And if a quarterback had the Dolphins season was all about the backup quarterback. And if a quarterback had just held it down, gone 2 and 2, gone 2 and 2 while 2a was away. Well, I mean, had they gone 2 and 2, they probably would have been in the playoffs. I found myself longing for the Kenny Pickets of the world the last two weeks. It's not a good place to be, but I was like, you know what, Mike White was still on this

team. Maybe, maybe something would have been different here. You are right. That is a horrific place to be when you are yearning for Kenny Pickett. Oh, it was so fun. I was texting him. I'm like, Pickett was available. We could have had him.

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Diana, the Houston Texans are always playing this game. They own this game. This is their game. They don't necessarily win it. There's a Hoyer, there's an assortment of bad quarterbacks I've seen for the Texans play this game. Hoyer should be on the sidelines. Is there one or two Yates? Every time they've ever played a wild card game,

this is fact, every time it's been that window. The first game, now known as the streaming exclusive, usually, it is always the Houston Texans, for whatever reason. If they're in the wild card, they're the first thing that you see. It is astonishing to me. Does Houston not have any national cachet?

This is a pretty big market. Or are they just always that kind of team? Like they have the exciting quarterback, the appointment television type of quarterback, at least he was last year. Not with pressure up the middle though. Not with, you can't, no one can play the position if your guards and center can't block anybody.

Like no one can play the position well. Just saying, they have a young, budding superstar at the position, a person that everybody crowned this most recent offseason. It's just, I understand why Yates is opening, is curtain jerking. I understand why Hoyer is curtain jerking. It's just funny that the Houston Texans perpetually are always in this TV slot. If you told me Brian Hoyer was the backup quarterback in Indy right now on the roster, I would actually believe you, right? Doesn't seem, he's not playing anymore, right?

I don't know. It's gotta be a wrap on him. I don't think so. It's gotta be. You know what, I think he's in the media now. I think I saw him tweet yesterday, now that we're talking about it. No, he's gotta be a backup somewhere. He's gotta be playing.

I will not live a day on this earth where Brian Hoyer is not a backup for somebody. I will not do it. Her this earth where Brian Hoyer is not a backup for somebody. I will not do it. Her cousin's his roommate in college. Why is it, Billy, that you're back there grinning as if you've done something bad? Well, no, I've been tasked with finding domain names that are available for Stugatsa's cyber squad. I found that toilet.com is either available or it's a dating site.

It's odd. It's a little confusing, but we found that JoshAllen.com has been cyber squatted, but it's available. You just need to call Todd. It says so right there, welcome JoshAllen.com for sale. Call Todd, asking $200,000. So it seems as though Todd has figured out this game and is trying to shake down Josh Allen.

I think he'll take 150. What's DiannaRosini.com? Is that available? Well, I don't wanna, here's the thing, Dianna. We did some researches for you, but we don't wanna put out what we've found is available because we don't want people cyber-scouting to you. We can connect offline.

I want to get this story. Billy, there are a number of things that I have to get to. And one of them is I need to know whether you guys think it's worth the content to go through. No, do not pay $200,000 for joshalland.com. If that's what you're thinking, do not do that. Let's just call Todd. We can talk to Todd for free.

It's not what I was thinking. If you'd allowed me to finish, you would have known what I was thinking and you would have just listened, but instead you've stayed where you wanna stay. The story you were telling about ESPN not securing our domain name, that was the beginning of the end and I don't

know whether anybody wants any more information on that or not. I think it was kind of like the middle of the end. No that that I'd like some info. Yeah I think people would I think people would find that interesting. I think that. But Diana can you walk us through this uh... because i talked to dominique about this yesterday and and i know that we're going to get in the playoffs right now and it's going to be an insanity and everyone's just gonna forget all the cleveland browns they had all of those expectations they ran off baker

mayfield he's uh... pretty good and then they made uh... the new you know what the most disastrous financial decision a team has ever made with the sean watson and wrecked everything that was hope in cleveland and the thing i was asking dominique is how closely can we tied together something that doesn't and to my recollection have a precedent in the sport which is a top five quarterback in his prime

they were still fighting over him to guarantee him all that money to short circuits pretty obviously because of everything that was happening off of the field it it's the injuries also that there was a a brief dip in form like there were questions when he was in the book he went from a top five quarterback in his prime to the to one of the worst quarterbacks in the sport and I'm assuming and I ask you this Diana I'm assuming is it is it the body or is it

the mind I think it's both I think it's all of it I think this has been a really hard time in his life for a lot of different reasons but he's also not the same person I was there in Cleveland during training camp and just as someone standing on the sideline and I've covered Deshaun Watson for a lot of years, especially when he was with the Texans. He does not have that same sparkle at all when it comes to his interactions with his teammates,

with the coaching staff. It's like he's doing it and he's trying it, but he's the dull version of himself now. And you're right. Like you have to wonder how much of all of this has affected his psyche, his confidence, because to Mike's point, there were, there were definitely moments where you saw little, little shine from him. And it was like, there it is, get it, come on, stick with it, like find it. And then it would never, it would never pan out. So how do you fix it? How do you have, how does this coaching staff figure out

a way to bring out the best in him? Because I can tell you even in the building, it's not great. Wouldn't everybody just say though, that all of what has happened there at the core soul spirit of what the cleveland browns are selling themselves out to make that particular dysfunction the thing that they were going to guarantee money to that's a reprobably damaged is it not like at the core of the being of who

you are as a human and who you are as a football player and who you are as an organization there is an irreparable damage that has been done by that transaction at that position to a person who's broken. We've seen other players go through life situations that may not be as bizarre, but just as complicated and have those off the field conflicts yet and they can go play, right? We've seen players over the years in every sport

battle through. We saw Kobe Bryant do it, right? Where you're in the middle of something and you're able to overcome it. He's not been able to overcome this. I don't think, look, I don't know this, but you have to wonder if he even loves to play at this point.

Because he loves just- Oh, no, it's gotta be a prison to go into that huddle. Look, look. He's gonna love not playing for a year and getting paid in full. We can all agree that the shame of that walking into the locker room, like, you're a changed person as a leader

walking into the locker room. All accounts so, like, he went into that locker room and won them over. They were all backing him up. The thing about Baker Mayfield was they wanted an adult in the room. Baker wasn't fully baked as a leader there, no pun intended, and Deshaun Watson went out of his way,

off-season trips, like, everybody was backing him up to the bitter end. They were backing up the talent. You saw the reaction to the crowd booing him. Everybody in that locker room was pretty pissed off about it. Like he had won them over as a leader. I'll let it go after this. I'm trying to come up in my head with where it is

I have a precedent for something like this. Where like, hey, there are seven guys in the world who can do that that well. And now he's terrible and it's over and it's done. What do you want the Browns to do though? Like at this point, like what do you think Jimmy Haslam should do? Well, they've got a top two pick, right?

So they've got a room full of family. Yeah, they're gonna go quarterback, right? A house gentleman there in the corner. They have a top two pick, so do they go quarterback? Because I'm seeing all these mock drafts and for whatever reason, they don't have them going quarterback.

No, you have to go quarterback. You have to present your fan base a future. You have to. Well, you have to go quarterback just because of like how your fan base a future. You have to. You have to go quarterback just because of how your roster is constructed. Because no matter what happens with Deshaun Watson, unless there's some other liability, they have to pay that contract in full.

So they need to go cheap at the position. The best way to go cheap at the position is hit on a draft pick. So they're either taking Shadorah Sanders or Cam Ward, right? Yeah, they're going quarterback. Guys, they see what we see. This is not a mystery. This is not like they're psyched about Deshaun Watson's ability, leadership, play. They know this isn't great, but they've also have no way out of this. So they've got to sort of just barrel

through. And it's almost like they're constructing their team as if Deshaun Watson isn't a part of it, right? They've got to move forward here and find the answer because I do think the fan base will forgive if they hit on a quarterback and this young guy comes out and lets you say beats Deshaun in camp and the Browns head to the playoffs next year with a rookie quarterback. They there I think there will be some forgiveness. Perhaps from some portions of the fan base, but perhaps Miami Hurricanes fans that are in that fan base that took moral stance and consider themselves principled. But oh, hey, Taylor. But here's the other interesting part to that, Mike.

Over the weekend, I was just talking to a couple of general managers about last year's draft class, just how quarterback heavy and talented this group is. And obviously we're seeing this now in the playoffs with the young rookies that are the stars of the show. And I was asking about these upcoming quarterbacks, where would they fall in last year's draft class? And two GMs said, definitely after Bo Nix,

one said Cam would probably fall before Bo because some team probably wouldn't have understood or believed how good Bo is, right? Like Craig DeShon-Pete. Fall after, fall not fall, fall after. No, no, fall before. It's a classic. Falling in. Slotting down.

Hold up. Slotting down. Fall out. Hold up. Let's hear it out. down. Hold down, hold up. Slot in before you fall out. Hold them up. Let's hear it out. Bo Nix is holding them down in Denver. Holding it down. Jaden Daniels.

Holding it down. But lifting them up. Jaden Daniels is lifting them up in Washington. Interesting. Okay, Mary? Here, Diana, is who you were saying was going to be acting better than uh... jerry jones this is bob craft that is at an audition uh... with a what i

believe was is uh... but i don't know are you really good up there i didn't mean that in a sexual but not that it wasn't i am so embarrassed now or even I am so embarrassed. Well, now we're even, because dancing in front of you was one of the most embarrassing moments in my life.

No offense, but I get guys like you in my classes all the time. So you don't even remember, which means we're not even. Only one way to fix that. Take it back Diana Take it back take back what you said that you thought Bob Kraft would act as well as Jerry Jones opposite I think Jerry Jones changed my life with that performance. It's where we didn't see how that scene ends I mean in fairness to Bob Craig, that's a porn for sure, right? I didn't think it was a great script just to defend him there.

I thought the writing could have been better. Ha ha. They weren't really pushing him. They almost wrote it in a way to make him sound dumb, whereas I think a script like we heard yesterday in the press conference, that's a job well done when he was talking about the changes at his head coaching position.

That's a good act. Diana Rusini, she's the senior NFL insider for the Athletic, she's the co-host with Chase Daniel of the Scoop City podcast. It is very popular. Thank you, Diana. It's nice seeing you as it always is. Thanks guys, great to see you.

We seem to distract her with the coaching carousel stuff. She seemed to be, she powered through it through it that would have Mina would have stopped in her tracks and started asking all sorts of questions she just powered right through it. We did distract her Chris you notice we were doing that right she was talking about the coaches and the coaching carousel we never got to Mike McCarthy as the Chicago Bears coach like how happy does that make Packers fans like I don't I didn't think Packers fans could laugh more at Bears fans, but them going after Mike McCarthy,

who would come without whatever was Aaron Rodgers was doing for them in Green Bay. We didn't even ask her about that. You should have. There's a disconnect between like the media and like people in football. People seem to actually like Mike McCarthy in football. But he's like a joke to everybody like us. Right. I spent that segment putting a bit in on DianaRosini.com.

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