The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Jerry Jones' Glory Hole Comments (feat. Dianna Russini)

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Jerry Jones had some interesting thoughts recently about where he wants his Dallas Cowboys to return to and we try to get to the bottom of why he keeps saying glory hole. If you survive a plane crash,... does it erase all the bad things you have done and automatically make you a good person? Dianna Russini joins the show from the Senior Bowl in Mobile to share her thoughts on new Jacksonville Jaguars' coach Liam Coen's awkward introductory press conference, new Jets coach Aaron Glenn nailing his press conference, and Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo calling Jaguars owner, Shad Khan, 'Chaka Khan'. Plus, she tells us about how the Cowboys ended up hiring Brian Schottenheimer and how her husband is handling his Philadelphia Eagles returning to the Super Bowl. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Let's create the agent-first future together. Head to salesforce.com slash careers to learn more. Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries
Starting point is 00:01:30 That if they're just there that hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it And now here's the marching band to nowhere that face and the habitual liar This episode of the day a little bit tarred show is to gots is presented by draft kings draft kings The crown is yours. We've done some digging, some reporting. We called the Cowboys. MetalArk Media did some work here. What happened, Billy?
Starting point is 00:01:52 I thought you knew when the game was. Right. That reporting I have not done yet. What about Jimmy Butler? I have not done Jimmy Butler reporting either. I'm waiting for things to get more interesting. Who? They're not interesting enough?
Starting point is 00:02:04 No, I mean, they're gonna keep getting more interesting. I mean we're going to have a week of escalation, are we not? Like that's going to bear monitoring pretty, I think. I think there are likely to be sparks any day because they're fighting in public in a way that is needed in order to get the separation that you want. But Jerry Jones has been for years now saying a phrase that I don't think he knows what it means. And we've called the Dallas Cowboys and we've asked. We've asked behind the scenes anonymous sources
Starting point is 00:02:42 and they've told us, look, everyone's too afraid to correct him. They just, they don't wanna correct him and he've told us what everyone's too afraid to correct it they'd they just they don't want to correct their and he doesn't know what he's saying here and this is just what he says and so you tell me uh... whether someone with the dallas cowboys should correct jerry jones because of how he keeps saying this he's been doing this for years there's a very low percentage of this uh... that is uh is smiles and glory holds
Starting point is 00:03:07 very low percentage He doesn't know what it means right like what or does he know what it means and he's just out here saying you know What I'm all about the glory hall and I don't care who knows it. I mean he's like 80 something, right? Like there has to be a different meaning that he knows. Well, can you find? From like 80, well, no, I'm not Googling that. Someone please find this for us, do some reporting.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Let's play some more sound here of Jerry Jones. Doesn't seem to know what this phrase means or does he know more than the rest of us? For me, it's a reminder. I too have been here 23 for me it's a reminder have to be in here twenty three years and uh... it is a reminder i've been here when it was glory old days not been here when it was and so having said that uh...
Starting point is 00:03:55 i want me some glory old well there has to be hunting or something uh... really uh... what time did you have was for everybody everybody can't really but you have some hard times uh... but it is the absolute lorale to have
Starting point is 00:04:15 uh... elusive when to be the champion greg kody are you hearing all of this for the first time you're laughing is that you're hearing for the first time i am i i am hearing this for the first time you're laughing as if you're hearing it for the first time. I am. I am hearing this for the first time. This is why the director of media relations was created. The whole job exists so you can tell somebody like Jerry Jones, hey Jerry, Google glory hole and never say the phrase again in public. Back in your day, did it mean something different?
Starting point is 00:04:46 It meant exactly what I think it means now. I think there's a- Dan, I went to gloryhole.com. Oh no. Don't go there. There, all right, so here's the deal on this because this is uncomfortable, but at some point, I'm assuming that there are some people in our audience
Starting point is 00:05:03 who don't know what a glory hole is I'm also assuming that everyone in our audience who does know Somehow learned one day what that was in whatever fashion it is that you learn that How does he not know that at 80 and is there a 10-year difference? In where it is that this expression would live that Greg Cody roars with laughter every time Jerry Jones says it But Jerry Jones is 10 years older than Greg Cody and to his people the 80 year old demo We sound like fools right now as they're like no you fools glory hole just means glory That's how we used to say it before we took away the hole
Starting point is 00:05:38 There has to be an explanation for the dates back to digging for gold So yeah, so that the expression he's making is about money and he's gonna keep doing it that way. He's going to just keep talking about it's not all smiles and money. Or you putting your penis through a wall in a men's bathroom. What? What?
Starting point is 00:06:01 You guys ever heard of the Sushi Glory Hole? Imagine that. What? It's an SNL thing. Nice. It's an SNL thing nice. That's no video really good really good lonely island Greg Jerry Jones running the Cowboys at this point Running the Cowboys this way at this point rewarded at every turn not with wins and excellence, but with a relevance That's always in play because it doesn't matter like this when the jags higher and nobody or when anybody or at this this franchise still matters somehow even though it's not actually excellent it's more watch than any of the franchises it's more talked
Starting point is 00:06:35 about than any of the franchise is more valuable than any of the franchise is crazy he's the most powerful man in the sport even though he doesn't win anything he's keeping robert craft of the hall of fame he's keep he's keeping robert craft out of the hall of fame no he's the most powerful owner in the nfl i think and still and they're still america's team thirty years after the raid day they they own and that's with the new york yankees
Starting point is 00:07:01 and very few other franchises in all of sports. You know, they're unbeatable. No matter how much they lose, they're the Dallas Cowboys. They're always gonna be the most valuable franchise, always. I don't know why, but Jerry Jones realizes that. And quite frankly, if I was a billionaire who owned a pro franchise, you'd have a tough time keeping me away from a microphone. I think I would, I'm surprised there aren't more owners
Starting point is 00:07:27 like Jerry Jones. I'm surprised he's the anomaly. I feel like we're kind of the freaks now because I'm reading about the previous meaning of the word glory holes, and it's a remnant of 1930s depression era mining. And it kind of makes sense because that's sort of the world he grew up in.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Who would have thought in the exchange of Jerry Jones and us, we'd be the sickos. But still, if you're the media guy for the cowboys. You have Jerry listening to that guy. You just say, hey Jerry, just so you know, this has another meaning. It's also oil. He's like, I know oil. And it's like, no Jerry, not that one either. We're not gold prospecting anymore. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I mean, to make sure I wasn't wrong, I did Google glory hole. Okay, what'd you find? And what comes up is what we all think. You went to that site? What do we think? No, I just Googled the phrase. Show Dan, turn that computer off.
Starting point is 00:08:17 What happens? Let's not do that. What's the first link? Let's not do that. A glory hole is a hole in a wall or partition, often between public lavatory cubicles or sex video arcade booths and lounges for people to engage in.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Ah! What was that sound? That fart. That's what it said. You know, a bad word being bleeped by me. That's what the Sims say when they do it. Self bleeping. Is hole the funniest word that's just a regular word?
Starting point is 00:08:49 Greg Cody, I'm gonna play for you here and this is, I'm gonna need, if I may, because you've been carrying us for a while and you are allowed to be sluggish after bringing it, after carrying us on Sunday, cracking open Miller Lights and carrying our whole Sunday livestream. But I have proof now that uh... yours again which used to be delivered with uh... luster and what is one of your signature saying that's why i think
Starting point is 00:09:13 fit people come out here and on tuesday's if they get one or two of your signature phrases it's a wonderful day for them they're looking for it here is how you delivered your signature Zagak. Dolphin lint. Zagak. Dolphin lint. Zagak. Zagak.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Zagak. Dolphin lint. Zagak. Sounded good to me. That sounds good to you. I gotta be honest. It sounded good to me. Dolphin lint.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Zagak. Zagak. Zagak. You even, you come right back with Zagak, because you can feel how poorly. Does Joe Zagak hate us? Does Joe Zagak hate us?'s like you even, you come right back with Zagacki because you can feel how poorly he's dead. Does Joe Zagacki hate us? Does Joe Zagacki hate us? I did reporting on this, yes, he does.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Dolphin lint. Zagacki. Okay, so wait, so wait, all right. So guys, please find for me the photo of Joe Zagacki. Well, how is this gonna help? It's not. I mean. Let's find it. Well, I mean, this, he hates us. It's. Let's find it. Let's find it. I mean this is.
Starting point is 00:10:06 He hates us. It's okay. Look. Right. If we're going to have minor funny beef with somebody in local celebrity, Joe Zagacki is a legend and a worthy foe. He is a University of Miami icon.
Starting point is 00:10:23 He is somebody who has been a media person in this market who has been successful and high-end integrity for 40 years. Yeah, survived a plane crash. He's a guy. Wow. Really? Just as an aside. Yeah. Go on. He's a good guy. I mean, you know, you know who hated,
Starting point is 00:10:41 what I did was Eric Reid reed hated it when i said make fun of him and do an impression yeah he came up to me was a happy i don't know if you're not real thrilled uh... yes that's bringing it back to another beef you have but the one that we're talking about right now with the jack my grind told me he got a my grinds a very big university of miami fan jose gattie is the voice of the university of miami sports has has been for many years. And when Mike Ryan pulls up next to Joe Zagacki at UM Games,
Starting point is 00:11:10 he feels the ice. He feels just because our show has made his name something that echoes throughout Miami. He should be, I think, he should be grateful that we are living in support and service of his local celebrity and we are helping boost the Zagacki brand. That's quite the spin we're putting on what we do with Joe Zagacki, especially when you have the Joe Zagacki
Starting point is 00:11:37 who gets very political at times and you guys just make a joke of Joe Zagacki at every turn possible. Yeah, but it's fun. In honor of him apparently, because he's a great guy who survived the plane crash. According to Greg. Yes, because of how ridiculous it is
Starting point is 00:11:50 to have that particular character, a lovable local icon who survived the plane crash, having strident political opinions. It's absurd, it's satire. No one would think of Zagacki that way. He's clearly not that. He's the opposite of that. We're doing satire.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Well, I mean, people that don't know who he is may not know that. Now, I have a question for you, Greg. You said, survived the plane crash, then you said, great guy. Now, if you didn't think he was a great guy, would you change your tune on the whole plane crash situation? Because it seemed like you were happy because he's a great guy. I think anyone who survives a plane crash becomes a great person. Really? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Even if you're a bad person to begin with, huh? I mean. No, no, I would make an exception to that. Really? Really? If, you know, I don't wanna throw it. Did Rick Flair survive a plane crash? Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Okay, there you go. Are we saying he's not a great person? Hold on, for the record, Greg Cody colon, Rick Flair's not a great person. You know what, I'm with Gregreg on this i'm gonna go ahead and say it uh... if you're guilty i'm not going to be an absolute about this let's hear greg stands right
Starting point is 00:12:54 simply that until i survive a plane crash and i have nothing but respect you know what are you doing in the plane well other people are panicking you're doing something different you know, what are you doing in the plane? Well, other people are panicking. You're doing something different, you know, you got an angle going, you know, you're burying your head a little more. Right. You've got some secrets.
Starting point is 00:13:10 You're shoving somebody else out of the way. You've got survivor secrets. Who knows what goes on inside a plane can't even imagine. Plumbing to earth. Yes. And so Zagacki can live to tell the tale. Now granted, it was a small plane in his case. You know,
Starting point is 00:13:26 it's not like he's in a Boeing 767. That's more impressive. Do it in a big plane is what you're saying. The survivor of a big jet airliner accrues more credit from me than the survivor of a small plane crash, quite frankly. Jessica, why are you rolling your eyes at Greg Cody? Is it your love of flight? Is it your obsession? Now I'm googling did Hitler ever survive a plane crash to try to get Greg and I don't know how I ended up here. Were there planes back then? Worse people to survive plane crashes. Yes there were planes when Hitler was around.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Famously there were planes during World War II. No they were biplanes. Famously, they were biplanes. There were planes during World War II. Yeah, no, they were biplanes, I think. Zeppelans. Yeah, let Zeppelans. No, if Hitler survived a plane crash, I would accept, make an exception. Wow. Okay, wait a minute. That's the, for the record, that's right.
Starting point is 00:14:15 That's what I was ready for. That's the exception to the exception. You already made an exception and that's the one time Hitler, come on. Come on. Get this together. The exception is fair and I think we'd all buy it if not being absolute about it necessarily,
Starting point is 00:14:30 case by case basis, depending on now and future Hitlers. Hold on, you wouldn't say he was a good guy but you respected him more because he survived the plane crash. Zagacki you mean? No, I thought you were agreeing with Billy. It was confusing. Your line should pick for TSA. Don't say yes here, Greg.
Starting point is 00:14:46 It was confusing. All right. Don't say yes. If you survive a plane crash, you deserve a little bit of credit. You've done something that most other people don't do. Agreed. You know what? Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Well, let's not jump to conclusions on Hitler. No. No. You see what I'm saying? No. You see what I'm saying? No. See, now you got turned away.
Starting point is 00:15:04 No, no. You know what? You think that's your plane crash survivor, guys. You know what? You know what? You know what you know what you know what minor penalty two minutes stumbling sorry don't get the gack was not welcome there be more careful all of you be all of you be more careful okay this isn't a this isn't a joyland playground I'd want to start with his original exception, which is If you survive a plane crash Are the people listening to this willing to forgive? Previous crimes on a person to merely say out loud even if it's a lie Good guy good person. Oh. I have something.
Starting point is 00:15:45 If you survive a plane crash, all parking tickets go away. What? All unpaid parking tickets, you're clear. There should be a bonus. Chris is right. That doesn't seem like enough though. It doesn't seem like enough.
Starting point is 00:15:56 It should be part of a package, a schemes package. What if we have no outstanding parking tickets? I mean, you're talking about future parking tickets as well? And you can just park wherever you want. Then you get a $200 gift card from the airline. $200? If you have no unpaid parking tickets. If I almost crashed in an airplane crash,
Starting point is 00:16:18 and the airline's like, here's a $200 voucher, I'd be like, do you think I'm ever flying on your airline again? Like, get out of here, $200 voucher. I get like do you think I'm ever flying on your airline again like get out of here $200 voucher I get 200 bucks when they lose my luggage $200 Chris Cody started the bidding here very low What an airline would offer It goes above the airline because when you survive a plane crash you're no longer a human being you
Starting point is 00:16:45 become supernatural you become a superhero you're at to the degree that I think anyone who survives a plane crash should immediately become a cardinal in the Catholic Church and okay because you become you become not their religion it doesn't matter doesn't you become like a deity and right yeah yeah the Catholics need all the help They what if the Jews survives a blank for a start? You know he becomes a rabbi Wow what's up? I just bought and financed a car through Carvana in minutes you The person who agonized four weeks over whether to paint your walls egg shell or off-white bought and financed a car in minutes
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Starting point is 00:19:33 See if you qualify in the TurboTax app. Excludes TurboTax Live. Must start and file in app by February 18th. Don Lebatard. Baker Mayfield tearing up Tampa Bay 38 for 45. Stugats. Shred'em! This is the Don Lebat 38 for 45. Stugats. Shred them! This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. Diana Rusini is there.
Starting point is 00:19:55 She is ready. She is willing to join us. Can you get me some celebrities who have survived plane crashes? Ric Flair tests our theory right away. Ric Flair, but are we forgiving previous crimes because plane crash survived? I'll allow it. What about, what else we got?
Starting point is 00:20:12 I have a list here of seven celebrities that have survived plane crashes. Number seven, Sandra Bullock. What? Really? Cardinal Bullock. Good woman. Number six, Post Malone.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Wow. Number five, Barack woman. Number six, Post Malone. Wow. Number five, Barack Obama. What? What? The whole thing with Air Force One. Mm-hmm. Is that right? Number four, Travis Barker. That one's famous.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Who? Number three, Jennifer Aniston. Wow. Really? Number two, Harrison Ford. And number one. What? Bono. Wow. Really? Number two, Harrison Ford. And number one, Bono. Wow. How about that? Rabbi Bono.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Diana Rossini is there now. She's looking at her phone. She cannot stop looking at her phone. The news is going fast and furious. New hair? It is not new hair. No, it's- It looks different this week.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It does not. It does not. It looks- Two weeks in a row. What do you mean? It looks wonderful. What? No, it's different this week. It does not it does not it looks two weeks in a row What do you mean? It looks it looks wonderful. What are you guys doing? Why are you putting your hand over? We're not saying it doesn't look good Diana give me what you're finding most interesting about the football news We've got to get right to it with you because there's a lot of stuff going on Yeah, this is hotel hair. So I'm in Mobile, Alabama I'm sitting on the floor of my hotel room right now joining you guys because you've got the senior bull this week
Starting point is 00:21:32 Do you guys know what that is? Yeah. Yeah. Say hi to Riley Leonard for me, Diana. Oh So, yeah, it's a I was actually just looking at the map. I didn't realize we were so close to the water. I just assumed I was like in the middle of America. I don't often take a look at where I'm actually going and thinking about it. But yeah, I'm here, it's great. Lot of Italians in Mobile.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So. Diana, hold on a second, because I'm seeing sweep through the room there, what looks to me from where I'm looking, a whole bunch of people who have realized that Obama wasn't actually in a plane crash. Well he's on this list. In 2008, he was aboard a plane that was involved
Starting point is 00:22:14 in an on the ground collision with another plane. Yeah, it's not a plane crash. Doesn't count. Yeah, it's gotta be in the air. It's a plane crash. It's a plane crash. It's a fraud. It's a fraud in the air.
Starting point is 00:22:22 That's terrifying. Fraud claim. 30,000 pilots. That is a crash. How do you not see the other plane? What else would you call it? It's like, oh look, there's another plane right there. That's a plane crash. That's terrifying. Fraud claim. That is a crash. What else would you call it? That's a crash. That's probably an air traffic control issue. They're probably telling one to go one way and the other to the other way.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It's a plane accident. He did survive a plane collider with another plane. That's a crash. If you drive into a parked train, you haven't been involved in a train. Yeah, you haven't been hit by a train. Put it on the pole. Do it at 30,000 feet.
Starting point is 00:22:49 At LeBittard Show. If you drive into a parked train, have you been? Do it at 30,000 feet. Hold on! Have you been in a train accident? Train wreck is better. Train wreck, thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:06 You're welcome. And also, hey train, do it at 30,000 feet. Plane, yeah. At LeBotard Show. Ridiculous conversation. That is correct. It's like a senior bowl. Diana, I don't like you being there.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I think that you've gotten to a place in your career where you shouldn't have to go there even with all the relationship building. I don't think that's a good job for you. I think it's beneath you. I don't think so. I disagree with you. I like coming down here because it's actually a pretty laid back environment where you have a lot of the scouts and coaches and general managers kind of just hanging out in their workout gear,
Starting point is 00:23:48 watching practice with nothing to do all afternoon. So this is actually a busy few days for me to just catch up with everyone and kind of discuss what their plans are here for the off season. We've got obviously for agency coming up here. They've got the combine in a few weeks. Um, so it's, it's actually, um actually a convention of the losers, right? Because none of the teams that are actually playing this weekend, their people aren't here.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's like, there's no one from the Chiefs here. There's no one from the Eagles. This is all those that are now, that the ones that have moved on and are already looking forward to next season. So while I think traveling and having to, you know, stop in two different cities just to get here is beneath me because I just
Starting point is 00:24:28 don't like doing any of that. I do like being here. But from a professional standpoint, you like it because this is where relationships are strengthened. This is where relationships are made for you, correct? You have time to talk to some of these GMs, correct? Yeah, before I came back to my room here to join you guys,
Starting point is 00:24:45 I was having breakfast with a couple scouts and they were like, so like, do you bring a notebook to practice and like just like keep track of what players are doing? I'm like, what, what? I don't even watch practice. What are you talking? I'm like, I'm on TikTok the whole time
Starting point is 00:25:01 for like the two hours those guys are out there because I'm really just waiting for all the agents and the GMS and the coaches to wrap up from what they're doing. So I can talk to them about usually what they saw, what they like, which players stood out. And really, as much as this is about like the theme here and the feel here is it's about these upcoming players. No one's really focused on that.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Everyone is talking about what's coming up next. And obviously, everyone's talking about the Eagles and the Chiefs still. Can we play some sound for Diana of new Jags coach Liam Cohen here? You tell me here as we go through some of these coaching hires what your reaction is to some of this stuff. Go ahead and play that clip please. That's what this is about. Jacksonville, the community. Doo ball. How do we do this together? He didn't say that right.
Starting point is 00:25:55 No, he really, yeah. Creepy the way he said it. The wrong emphasis on the wrong syllabi. Yeah, yeah, he didn't do that right. The best part is in the video, his face, he thinks he's nailing it. No, it didn't do that right. The best part is in the video, his face, he thinks he's nailing it. Does he? Like the smirk, he's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:10 He thinks this is going to go viral for all the right reasons. It was a bit sensual the way he said it, I thought. Let's play that again one more time. I do detect a hint, a dollop of sensual. That's what this is about. Jacksonville, the community, do ball. No, you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:33 How do we do this together? It's a great question, they've been asking it for a lot of years there, buddy. Now please look at this again. I want you to look at just his face. I'm sorry, audio audience, just look at his face and watch just his eyebrows and you tell me you tell me what kind of confidence this man has That's what this is about
Starting point is 00:26:53 Jacksonville the community Do ball How do we do this together his eyebrows eyebrows did a roller coaster. Did, Diana, you saw it. It was the dance after. It was the shoulder like. Mm-hmm, yeah. Shimmy, shimmy. Shimmy like, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Like, I hope we look back on this and it's not an Adam Gase moment. We look back on it and go, all right, he didn't nail that, but man, can that guy coach, because he's had quite the dramatic few days, you know, going, I don't know how much you guys know about how this all came together.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I can do it real quick for you in about 40 seconds, but Tampa Bay Butts wanted to bring him back as an offensive coordinator, made him the highest paid guy. Jacksonville wants to interview him for the head coaching job. They say, go, go do it. It's good experience. Your young coach, you know, sit down with an owner,
Starting point is 00:27:50 see what that's like. He comes back, he said, I think they really like me. They're like, oh, they can't like you too much. You need to stay here. You're our OC. You're gonna stay here, right? Here's a new deal. We'll give you even more money to stay here.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So he's in a win-win situation. He's getting paid a bunch of money to stay as the Tampa Bay Bucks offensive coordinator coaching Baker Mayfield and then Part of that verbal agreement was you can't interview anymore. Like it's done. You're here he goes quiet goes dark on them and he takes a flight to Jacksonville and meets with Chad Khan all day long and then there they decide that you're gonna be the new head coach of the Jacksonville Jacks. We're gonna pay you Ben Johnson type money a little less than that actually five years ten million bucks
Starting point is 00:28:36 And you're gonna have control. You're full control What is the name of the Jags owner? Can you repeat that please? Shad Khan. All right. Here's how Mad Dog says it. He got upset at the way Shaka Khan handled it. The queen of funk. Okay, so you guys know I grew up listening to Mad Dog. And so I've met him. It's gotta be 40 times now, you know, just from being in sports and, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:09 when he joined ESPN, I'd see him in the green room and we have some great conversations about life and parents, parenting and family. And, you know, he gives me advice when I don't even ask it. So he goes on his show and he's like, there's this woman, Diana Ruccini, she's reporting that blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm thinking to myself, the guy knows who I am,
Starting point is 00:29:31 he talks to me all the time. But it wasn't so much that he botched my name, it was that he had no idea who that person was that was reporting. And I realized in that moment, I don't think Chris knew what I was doing at the s p n i think he thought i did make up so shocker con uh...
Starting point is 00:29:53 uh... we have not gotten uh... still got his uh... thoughts i am so assuming that this is exclusive to god bless football on the new jets hire but we will get those thoughts after we play uh... gave good press conference yesterday but Stugats has been beaten up by this franchise. He's heard, it wasn't Al Groves press conference but he's heard a lot of press conferences here. He's tired of people who can win the press conference. Look what happened yesterday though yesterday with Aaron Glenn. Put your seatbelts on and get ready for the ride. Listen, there are going to be some challenges but with challenges becomes opportunity gets opportunity.
Starting point is 00:30:28 But here's what I do know. We're the freaking New York Jets. We're built for this. Goosebumps? We're not built for this. I mean, I love that Aaron Glenn wants to be the Jets head coach. I love that Aaron Glenn would prefer
Starting point is 00:30:44 this be his final job in the NFL. And so in the absence of being able to actually hire a good coach, I'll start with taking a guy who actually wants to be the Jets head coach. And Aaron Glenn gets the area, gets the fan base. They would all want to be the Jets head coach. This guy wants to be the Jets head coach for the next 20, 25 years. He does. He wants this to be his last job in the NFL. And I'll take that. That's good enough for me. What coach wouldn't say that?
Starting point is 00:31:11 Oh, no one wants to be the Jets head coach. No one dreams of being the New York Jets head coach. Nobody except for Aaron Glenn. And I'll take it. You also, like, sneaky called him not a good coach. I'm not certain he is. I mean, he gave a 45 points at home to the commanders. A lot of injury.
Starting point is 00:31:27 So you're just someone who's willing to accept any coach that is somebody who wants to work for you? Yeah, someone who wants to be there. Yeah, Rex Ryan, Aaron Glenn, we'll take it. It's a starting point, Dan. Are you allowed to say, we're the freaking New York Jets when you haven't won anything in 55 years? I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:31:44 You can't say that. Let's play the sound again here because I think we should leave the shit in and bleep out the word before it so it just sounds like he's saying something different. Put your seatbelts on and get ready for the ride. Listen, there are going to be some challenges, but what challenges becomes opportunity gets opportunity. But here's what I do know. We're the freaking New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:32:07 We're built for this. I mean, he is going safety first with the seat belts. That's good. We're built for shit. Leap out the this and leave in the shit and we're the New York Jets. We're built for shit. Also, put your seat belts on. What Obama said when he saw that the planes were going to crack. Got my seat belt on. Put your seat belts on what Obama said when he saw that the planes were gonna crack like put your seat belt on that's a nothing phrase of
Starting point is 00:32:30 like what's gonna happen but your seat belt on we're gonna get into an accident I'm coaching a team called the jet usually buckle up hits harder there buckle up what your seat belt on it is what a it is it is what a pilot that was going down at sea would say before taking a job. Put your seat belts on. Like, I don't know what he's offering us there. We're like, heck.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Chris is right. He messed it up the phrase. Chris is right. In New York, that's like the back page of the New York Post right now. I don't think he meant to say fasten your seat belts. He meant to say buckle up. Like, we're gonna get this thing off the ground and go. I don't think he meant to say fasten your seat belts. He meant to say buckle up like,
Starting point is 00:33:05 we're gonna get this thing off the ground and go. No, but I strapped my seat belt across my chest there. Where are we going? Like when you buckle up, you do it aggressively. When you put your seat belt on, you're like fiddling and you're like, ugh. That's right. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:18 You gotta buckle up in that case. Let's get some more sound because the things in the NFL, I don't know how much information you feel is coming your way that is too much. Like the gossip is high now because a lot of people are just sitting around waiting for the football season to end and all they have to do is talk, right? Yeah, people are pretty gossipy right now,
Starting point is 00:33:38 but now that the coaching cycle is wrapping up here, we're just waiting for the Saints to make their hire. The buzz today has really just been Jerry Jones and just the way that press conference went down. I mean, it should be studied because there were so many moments of just awkwardness. There were moments. It was some moments where he was emotional.
Starting point is 00:34:01 The whole thing was really weird. And I kept thinking if I was Brian Schottenheimer, does this owner want me here? Because there was some tone in there where it was kind of, it could be kind of sending at times. I didn't really get this rah rah speech from Jerry that made me go, okay, I get it. I get get why he went in house why he went with the offensive coordinator of the head coach that he fired Because to me, I don't care what they're trying to sell in Dallas. They did not have a plan They did not think that this was going to fall apart with Mike McCarthy and that the two sides would go in different directions And that they would be on the market for a head coach.
Starting point is 00:34:45 They were not prepared. Diana, it is so weird. I don't know. Tell me if I have this wrong because Lord knows plenty of people talk about the Dallas Cowboys enough. The idea that the Cowboys would have that season and that Mike McCarthy, I don't know how honest he is,
Starting point is 00:35:02 talking about like how bothersome it is to be run poorly, but for Mike McCarthy to have his choice of whether or not he went back to work after that season or for them to be surprised by Mike McCarthy turning them down, like what is being said about how dysfunctional this 80 year old man bloated on power is running that franchise because he's in charge. Mike McCarthy does, Mikearthy very much worked for jerry jones and jerry jones no matter how systemic we think these things are jerry jones is the final call on all things in his hands are on everything here's something i've learned over the last few weeks about how organizations see themselves
Starting point is 00:35:42 they do not see themselves the way we can see them and criticize. They think everybody wants to be associated with them, including the Jet Sto. Everyone has this lack of self-awareness because they know there's only 32 of these. They know guys are willing to do whatever it takes. Look at Liam Cohen's situation, and by the way, I don't even know where I fall in terms of whether or not I think the way he handled his business was professional or not. This is a cutthroat industry and you only get a few opportunities. Guys, we were talking, Bobby Slawick was getting head coach opportunity, get head coach opening opportunities.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And he was fired from the Houston Texans last week. Lou Anarumo was the sweetheart of the league after the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. And now he's the Colts defensive coordinator, barely. And I say barely because he had a couple options, but I just think that owners know how hard it is for these coaches to get these jobs, that they've simply looked at it that way of, you're not good, Mike McCarthy, you're not walking. I'm going to offer you a situation,
Starting point is 00:36:51 a deal that's maybe not great, but you have no other options. And I think Mike McCarthy looked at the situation and was like, nah, I don't want to deal with this anymore. I don't, I don't want, it's not, it's not worth it to me at this point. And so now, you know, he's up for the New Orleans Saints head coaching job, he obviously had some flirting there with the Chicago Bears. So there's a market for Mike McCarthy, and I think Jerry Jones always will believe that there's a market for the Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:37:17 The Philadelphia Eagles are in the Super Bowl, and we want answers to just one question. How obnoxious has your husband been since? He's been great, actually. It hasn't been too much. We have a little issue just in our marriage where Kevin can't ever just do anything in silence. He always has a podcast playing.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And so I definitely have heard way more Philadelphia podcasts. So he can, he's the type like after they win, he wants to listen to more and more. It's not like when they lose, he like, he doesn't wanna watch anything, he doesn't wanna listen to anything. The more they win, the more-
Starting point is 00:37:55 Does he listen to yours? Does he listen to yours? Yes, he does. He does. So he gets up around four. So he usually listens. We drop our show on Tuesday morning and Friday morning. So he listens to that first, but then he'll rip through Roscillos over through Birds with Friends, she'll cop out. I don't even I don't even know what they're called
Starting point is 00:38:14 I just know that this it's all Eagles talk But yeah, no, he's been good. Um, but how how how what is his appraisal of your podcast because how uh... what is his appraisal of your podcast because uh... uh... it's it's very popular and if he's comparing information he's not just running around uh... he's trying to get more informed right it's not just celebrating the win he also wants every dollop of information that he can get so how does he rank you among the things that he's listening to i've asked him that question actually because i always i look at podcasting is up it's an honor that people take time, knowing how busy everybody is and to put that in the schedule and he has no reason to look he doesn't have I don't make him listen to it.
Starting point is 00:38:55 In fact, 90% of the stuff I say on Scoop City every day. I tell him anyways over dinner or you know just in casual conversation when we're talking about stuff I'm reporting. So it's not like it's new Intel. I don't know, he must like it, he listens to it. Yeah, I think there's moments where he wants me to go harder because he knows how much I know about stuff and I have to hold back because you guys understand the relationships and journalism and trying to protect the people that are giving me this information.
Starting point is 00:39:24 So that's really the only stuff he picks on me for. He does get a little sensitive when I criticize some of Jaylen's passing game. Like he thinks I go a little too hard. But this last show, I apologize to Nick Sirianni. I looked dead into the camera, picked the mic up right to my mouth. And I said, Nick Sirianni, I thought you stunk
Starting point is 00:39:44 as a coach at the start of the season you were stinking I thought you were getting fired I thought you lacked emotional intelligence I thought he lacked horrible game management I he kind of just seemed like a kid that had the head coaching job and how he Rosen was smart enough to give him a bunch of adults around him like Vic Fangio and Kellellen Moore. But somehow Nick Sirianni has figured out to stay out of the way. So I owe him a really big apology. But you told us, you also told us before anyone else was saying it when they started the season slow, you told us that you knew them to be one of the good teams playing. I want to ask you this
Starting point is 00:40:20 question before the Super Bowl. I don't know how you feel about this. I believe the Eagles are so loaded and at offensive line that in terms of where you'd rank Jalen Hurts on the offense good at his job where does he rank number one to number 11 on that offense just good at his job. Jalen Hurts is 10 9 8 7 6 5 like where because of what Lane Johnson is for example Lane Johnson is better at that job than anyone is at probably number one yeah Lane's number one at his job for sure say one Barkley is number one AJ Brown is number one I'd say Jalen's three I think when what we just the version of Jalen we just saw that to me if he can
Starting point is 00:41:07 just do continue to do that and we saw him do this on the big stage the last time they went to the Super Bowl if you guys remember he was fantastic the last time they went I had some concerns though about his ability to really find those receivers. We saw it. AJ Brown's reading a book on the sideline because of how frustrated he was in the passing game. So I just think the fact that he was let loose a little bit and I think Nick Sirianni was or Kellan Moore was able to come up with a game plan to sort of take that pressure off Jalen and let them just let loose a little. Which is really my bigger concern for them playing the Chiefs because I think if any team plays loose in these moments, in the bigger moments, it's the Kansas City Chiefs. I feel like they lean into it.
Starting point is 00:41:56 So that's really my concern headed into the Super Bowl for the Philadelphia Eagles. Diana, thank you for being on with us. We will punctuate this segment by being unfair to the Jets and Aaron Glenn. Put your seat belts on and get ready for the ride. Listen, there are going to be some challenges. But what challenges becomes opportunity gets opportunity. But here's what I do know.
Starting point is 00:42:17 We're the freaking New York Jets. Shit. Buckle up! Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet? Yeah, sold it to Carvana. Buckle up! Hey, howdy listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me. Let's have a fireside conversation in the winter. This is all theater of the mind anyways. The weather outside is a little chilly. Let's warm up. Let's cozy up, not just to each other but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right, make these moments even better with Miller Lite, the great tasting light
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