The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Let's Nitpick!

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

Mike Ryan joins us for a segment as Dan has up-to-the-minute news on the Miami Heat and Damian Lillard. Chris Cote introduces us to a new game called "Let's Nitpick!" Then, Ron Magill joins us to discuss conservation, his endowment, human remains in alligators, and more. Plus, the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce storyline continues to stay at the top of conversation with a new take from Elle Duncan that has us questioning the validity of the relationship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time. Welcome to the big sui! Presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Labotard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants,

just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Mike Ryan has come in even though he was off today simply because there's Lillard stuff happening and he wants to be near a microphone when Lillard

stuff is happening. Chris Cody before we go to Mike Ryan on this can we begin the game please of Let's Knit Pick because I don't think your father noted Homer and he's never been this excited about the dolphins, right? Since Merino, you haven't been this excited about the dolphins? Probably since Merino. Yeah, since Merino. Absolutely. In 1983, 84 going into 85 were the golden era of Dan Merino's early prime. And that's the last time that the dolphins have showed this kind of promise and excitement. Let's nitpick Chris Coded.

Do you have anything beyond special teams? Or is that all you have? Robbie Chosen did very poor job blocking in general. Oh, look at you playing the game. That short yardage offense. Wait, hold on, we have music for this game. Oh, we do. Yeah, we do.

Yeah, it's very exciting. Hold on. Do you want me to make it louder? Do you want me to make music something that we can hear? Oh, we do. Yeah, we do. Yeah, it's very exciting. Hold on. Do you want me to make my one louder? I want to make music something that we can hear or you just want to play an organ for yourself There it is That's lip-pig Special teams could come could could burn us in the long run. Short yardage situations, Engel, not the answer. Really? You've dismissed him as not the answer.

I thought in that, wait a minute, when Engel has the ball they, they don't need a fullback, they've got a fullback at least in part because this fullback does what fullbacks are supposed to do. They're keeping the nipple. Have X lost a stab. It's ridiculous when you come to think of it that the dolphins in this offense, this supersonic high scoring offense, still have a fullback, a position that was relevant in the NFL in about 1962. And now you have two of the fastest running backs in the NFL in a Chan no longer a chain a Chan and Mosturts

Nippin instead of instead of allowing them with that speed to maybe find the corner and get a yard You're handing the ball to Alec Engold. I just don't get it. You kind of stepped on my last one has Xavier Howard lost a step Yes, but he's still damn good. Let's nippin It's dang the dolphins peak too early As me after Sunday Let's nippin I think their offense has obviously peak too early because I don't expect them to score more than 70 this season. Like I- Don't heal from here.

You don't have them score except in the again. No, I think that's the pink and they would have been better if they'd saved that for the Super Bowl. Let's dig in! Yeah, my wife made a comment to that effect. A save those points can a comment. It is funny though, if the Dolphin score 34 points in Buffalo, I want the first question to Mike McDaniel to be, was wrong with the offense today Mike you were a little off Let's nippin

Is that it though? I think that I want the same sort of everybody can play yeah, I know but I don't think there's anything else I think everyone can play but I think they scored 70 they won by 50 that little big fan. She'll come down on the field One of the things that I wanted to talk about that is not nitpicking you'll come down on the field. Wait a minute. Snippin'! Nags. One of the things that I wanted to talk about that is not nitpicking? So, gots, I think, something that... I don't know if it got missed Sunday, obviously, when 70 points are scored, a lot can be talked about. But the fact that the Denver Broncos have what is arguably the best corner in the

game in Patrick's or Tan's son, and that his son as part of their defensive philosophy was on Tyree Kill 62% of the time during the game. Yep. He's overrated. He's not overrated. Their best is not as good as Miami's best. He's not as good at cornerback as Tyree Kill is at wide receiver. That's no indictment of Sir Tan.

It means that Tyree Kill is not coverable if Sir Tan cannot do it. But beyond that, though, I would tell you that Sir Tan covering Hill for 62% of the game and allowing four catches on five targets is kind of successful. Like it's I know it's not I know I know it's not because it wasn't five. I'm saying no that he only got thrown two five times because her tan was on him 62% of the game and they only threw five times there. Like, what I'm saying is it's not possible to actually guard if you can't do it with the best player at the position or one of the best players at the position in the game.

You get the game. That's not nitpicking. That's not, I was a different four or five is successful. I was, it's not the ones, it's 20%. Weird, yeah. Let's nitpick. I was playing it, but only throwing five times in that direction. You're saying you say success. You like you stop them all the time. So that's your stand in your one the afternoon. Let me do that. Let me do it.

This way. Let me do it this way. If I made your assignment for a day, Stugots, yes, cover Tyree kill 62% of the time. They be throwing at me a day. Stugots. Yes. Cover Tyree Kill, 62% of the time. They'd be throwing at me all day. It probably would be more than five targets, but just make it any corner back in the world or the history of the world. My guess is that there'll be more than five targets to Tyree Kill in those situations.

And especially this, imagine being Jalen Waddle after that game, boy, they really missed me didn't they okay? You're missing your second best receiver so they they normally would have gone to Tyree kill even more but they didn't Five dollars you okay, they didn't because Patrick's are 10 the third is that good you owe $20 from last week. I do, I owe Jeremy $20. That you stole to pay as a tip for your hair cut from the piggy bank. And now you owe $5 on top of that.

Last week, we didn't get the chance because you wanted to criticize Messi for not playing all the time for Miami, correct? You didn't want him to play elsewhere and take time off. I expect it age 36 that he's not going to play every game, particularly when they're on a run of like, you know, 12 games in a month or it seems like. It's nipic. I expect him to occasionally take it a day off. But if they're serious about chasing an MLS playoff spot and there are five points behind with five games to go, you need him for MLS matches.

Does Argentina need him for a World Cup qualifier that they know they're going to win? Probably not. So that's the thing I question, is that he would a in a qualifier where they don't really need him Instead of an MLS match where they do really I don't see where you say They don't really need him when he won a World Cup qualifier late with a free kick right it was a one zero game They literally needed him to win that game It's a World Cup qualifier and that's what high level soccer is. If you bring in a player like Leo Messi, you know during the international break, he's going to go play for his country. What's screwed up is you should go at the league for actually having games

during international breaks because that's kind of Mickey Mouse. That's ridiculous. And now they're playing a US Open Cup game Wednesday night. I mean, no, they're playing a final for a trophy. Well, I guess all Greg is saying is get your priorities in order. I mean, you, they're playing a final for a trophy. Well, Mr. Gallagher is saying is get your priorities in order. I mean, you're down here, you're in Miami, you got the whole city excited, playing the games. I mean, these games are more important. I'm with you.

They're not qualifying games, they're regular season games. These guys get it. All right, thank you for bringing me in. The other thing is this. I'm gonna leave now. No, no, I want to talk to you about the little earth stuff. Okay, but this is nonsensical. Well, welcome to my Tuesday, Mike.

Look, Messi has said he's done with world cups. He probably isn't. I know he hasn't. Yes. He's literally playing in World Cup qualifiers. He said the opposite. He said after the last World Cup, that was my last. No, but then he said after he won it,

he's going to keep playing, which is why he played in a World Cup qualifier. I will see. This is, we'll see. He just won a World Cup qual. I am leaving. No, I'm leaving. Mike, I need this is no Mike.

He's a guy that no soccer on the show outside of me. Cody, therapy couch. What? Get out of here. Get out. No, I need you. We didn't. He lied.

That's a great point to me. No, thank you, Sugas. Therapy couch. The only thing he said that didn't make sense is that they played 12 games in a month. No, thank you, Sugas. Therapy couch. The only thing he said that didn't make sense was that they played 12 games in a month. I mean, get out of here. I mean, it seems like it's pretty dangerous. I don't do the white month. Cody, out of the room, Mike, how did you receive the information that is now coming out

that Milwaukee is interested in Damien Lillard and that Toronto got deep into negotiations on Damien Lillard and then pulled out. I have up to the minute information on this, but I'm just curious, I imagine heat fans have been listening to the last couple of months of everything that's happening with Lillard and they might be confused by the general lack of movement. And so when you hear what could be perceived as scare tactics if you're in the heat position about Toronto and Milwaukee now getting in the game trying to drive up the price, your thoughts are what?

My thoughts are I look where the report comes from. I see it's an ESPN report, and I know that Portland is dying to get some leverage in this because it's been reported by Shams that if they, they mean Lillard gets traded to another team, he will, what is happening right now? Are you putting in that disgusting heat mouthpiece that has been out in the open for several weeks?

Well, I get it. putting in that disgusting heat mouthpiece that has been out in the open for several weeks. He is the heat mouthpiece. I get it. Okay. Well, I take into account where it's being reported. I know a situation that Portland's dying to get some leverage because Lillard's going to apparently request a trade if he's traded anywhere but Miami. So I take it as it's all BS posturing from Portland dying to get someone else in the mix so that he can reengage and improve on their offer. But Barry Jackson is reported and he's pretty plugged in that the heat did circle back with Portland and they finally had some talks.

And there are some reports out there about finding other teams to help complete the deal. But I am dying to know your latest information. What does that mean that he's gonna request the trade if he gets traded to another team? Because he's already requested a trade to the heat, and they're kind of like, nah. So like, if you go to a new team, the trade's a bunch of assets for him, they'll probably also be like, nah, they're gonna play here. I mean, no one will actually want to acquire a SAR that's going to come in and immediately make a mess of things, and that's what the heater banking on.

Dan, correct me if I'm wrong. Did you have the leverage? Because Danian the ladies on their side working with the line of these seats to try and get to the line, which is what. I do it as Batman. Which is what everyone wants. Why would I do this Batman?

That's not live penalty So there Haven't been any Movement on what the heat is offering the The offer, as I have said, is the offer. They are not going to overpay for someone who is 33 years old and gets $219 million when they know the wreck end of that contract is going to be wrecked. Toronto didn't want to fake Kyle Lowry say your son after 35 They're gonna say this guy after 35 when they're and is that the heat Says their offer is the rest offer and if someone can come up with something better they can have them

Can you take this serious please? I really want to hear this info. Oh wait, wait, no, that's a huge nugget at the end over the hair. He man, alright. That's an understanding. That, alright, so this is how the Miami Heat should play it, which is fine. They don't budge. If you can find a better offer, take it. Because you're putting an insane value on a player

that just two years ago, Wohge said, this is a depreciating asset. This is a small guard on a player that just two years ago, Wouge said, this is a depreciating asset. This is a small guard on a big number who's already 33 years old. So the Miami Heats now stands is they're not overpaying for a bad end of the contract. That's not what they're going to do. They've already got Jimmy Butler who's going to be onerous as a contract later in his years. Quite quick question though, is Pat Riley fully prepared to go into another one of these whale hunts and come up empty handed because he's had a team that's gone to two out of

the last four finals and he hasn't really netted the one asset that can make the team a champion that can clear that final hurdle. It ended up being Calhounry, which was a bad move. They obviously like the team that got to the finals last year. It is now depleted by some people that they have lost, that they believe that they can recreate because they created those people that have been lost.

And they want Lillard, but at their price, not at anybody else's price. Well, you're saying he's working with the team, right? We're looking, they keep in something. Mr. God, like this stuff is, it's all sorts of muddied and muddled because you can't work with the team directly because it is tampering, okay? But these behind the scenes,

machinations of someone's agent and all the things that have happened publicly where Damien Lillard has been willing to do damage to what is his relationship only so much damage though to his relationship with the city of Portland and a fan base that he values. This is as far as Damien Lillard has been willing to go on the damage, but when Lillard is coming out and saying, I wanna go to Miami, when you're talking about these amounts of money, it's not because he doesn't know

that all of the pieces are in place. Like he's not doing flippantly in interview, I wanna go to Miami as if that stuff hasn't been worked on behind the scenes. However, it is that these teams get in trouble by navigating wherever it is the loopholes are. These things don't happen because an athlete just decides one day to shrug his shoulders and say something into a microphone. They're more orchestrated than that. I think I can get behind the cause as a heat fan. Like, okay, if someone tops the offer, they can have them. We're not going to improve the offer.

But then I look at it from a tree top view and I realize it's the same thing as last year. Now, they ended up proving people wrong because they had one of the biggest upsets in NBA history and upsetting the Bucks and they got to the finals and we were freaking out about that off season because they've gotten worse. They've lost Gabe Vincent.

They've lost Max Truce. Stage Avu all over again. What's the improvement on this roster, the growth and development of younger players that they refuse to put into this trade? If he whiffs on Damien Lillard, when Damien Lillard is finally done the things that has been absent of all these other whale chases,

it's gonna be a mark against. It's gonna be really disappointing. Okay. This is the window. But added to the list of marks and then they'll get in on imbeder, Yannis, and they'll try to do it all over again or they'll try and get better in January.

They're already confused. The heat are already confused that Cronin didn't make this trade a long time ago because now all the players have moved 90% of the league. You gotta wait until December to retrain them like they, they, I don't know how cronin is doing his job, but if you were to do it successfully, this would have been an asset you would have moved a couple of months ago, not, not now. Now everyone's locked up to where they're going and if you want future trade pieces,

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is tailored to who I am. Edward Jones, we do money differently. Visit EdwardJones.ca slash different. Don Lebatard! Why are you so bad at this? Stugats! I can't answer that question. It's a good one though.

I've been thinking about it a lot. This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugats! I want to ask Ron McGill in a moment about that giant alligator that was found with human remains in its mouth in Florida. But before I do that, Ron McGill's to guys, I believe that as a human being who is fundamentally decent, he and Greg Cody are working on a book that we will be publishing here shortly, that we will expect our audience to buy with great zeal because I'm certain it will be spectacular.

But Ron stands for the right things, not just in the animal kingdom. In this community is someone who loves South Florida and as a private citizen, not as a representative of the zoo. He has been fighting for something in the shadows that has now become public and uncomfortable. Ron, I would like our audience to help you with that fight. I'd kind of like to have a I would like our audience to help you with that fight. I'd kind of like to have a mass protest with you on Black Friday where we send our listeners out to have both a party and a protest.

And the dolphins are playing the jets that day. The dolphins and the jets, Billy has no time for your activism, your community work. It's like a by-week dough. The dolphins are playing the jets in an important division game. But can you explain to me what you're doing Black Friday and in general what this cause is for you because when you get properly indignant people should pay attention. Well, you know, I've got a preface I'm not speaking as Ramagillas in Miami and speaking

on a guilt private citizen because I have been forbidden from speaking as Ramagillas in Miami. We are located on a piece of property that is home to the most critically endangered habitat in all of Florida. It's called a Pine Rockland. On that piece of property adjacent to it is part of our parking lot. That also has some tree islands on it. But in 2006, voters voted to have a water park, a theme park built on that parking lot.

And I'm going to tell you, I was one of the people who voted for it back then. Since 2006, we have learned so much about that Pine Rock and Forest, the endangered species that live in that forest, and used that parking lot as a foraging area, and as a corridor to get from one endangered parcel to another. That we realize it would be horrible for conservation to build that water park. So years later now, they're trying to get an extension on for conservation to build that water park. So years later now they're trying to get an extension on the least to build this water park and I'm totally against it. As is every conservationist you'll ever speak to, they've had all kinds of conservationists come

in here and speak about it. Listen, Miami-Dade County has just fallen victim to just overdevelopment. Developer dollars are dictating what happens in this town and I just decided that I was going to speak up against it. And realizing and doing so is, you know, it's gonna create a very uncomfortable situation for me at work. I realized it was gonna create an impossibility of me losing my job. But at the end of the day, I haven't put over 43 years in this place to work for an attraction.

I put in 43 years to work for conservation and protect wildlife. So I wrote an open letter to the commissioners. I sent it to the media. They published it and put it in short terms, all hell broke loose. This incredible upward, this wave of opposition has developed, and it's really awakened the commissioners and to the point where this was going to be a done deal, rubber stamp vote to build a thing that commission meaning they defer to it. They defer to it because hundreds of people showed up thousands of emails were sent to

the commissioners and they defer to it and we said okay they think we're going to go away we're not going to go away and I got people together, got this young crowd, this gentleman, this kid named Luke and Martinez, put together some incredible videos that I collaborated with on the second one. And we came back the second time, and they deferred it again. But this time they deferred it saying, you will not be deferred again.

It's going to December 12th. And when I first started this stand, I thought this was a done deal. That the developers got it. The commissioners are paid for, and it's over. The lobbyists have the upper hand here. For the first time, I've spoken to many commissioners, and I realize this is a different commission here at Miami-Dade County.

They are really listening now. And I have been very pleasantly surprised by the response I've gotten by speaking to them personally. And I think there's a real chance here of making history of saving some of the most incredibly endangered habitats, some of the most endangered species in the state of Florida from being subject to this development which could lead to their doom. And I'm looking forward to making that history. I'm hoping that people will back us up.

We're going to have a demonstration in front of the zoo, a parking lot area on Black Friday the day after Thanksgiving, and I'll be the first one in line. I'm gonna be taking that day off because I'm not allowed to do anything as a zoo employee, but I think people know who I am and what I stand for, and I think there'll be a lot of other people there as well. And I really firmly believe that the commission

is listening to us, and we have a chance to make history here to where we can show people that development dollars do not take priority over a while life in the world. Ron, I have some great news. The TikTok girlies have gotten on this. I've seen several videos on my for you page. If Gen Z is involved, I feel really good about this. I feel really good.

Well, you know, I thank you so much. You know, there's an old saying that says when the people lead, the leaders will follow. And I really, again, 20 years ago, I thank you so much. You know, there's an old saying that says when the people lead, the leaders will follow. And I really, again, 20 years ago, I would never said this. I said, you know what, we were lost because there was always this development, development, development, this commission really has shown me something that is very pleasantly

surprised me. They're listening. And I think the people in my midday county may be surprised on December 12th when the votes say that they're not going to allow this thing to be built here, which will, for me, be the single greatest victory in my professional career. But Ron, how do we save the water park? I mean, lazy river.

I water parks are fun, Ron. Yeah, let me come on. You liked it on the front end. I mean, there's a lot of places. Yeah, I did vote for it in the beginning until I learned the damage that can be done by it. And there's a lot of places around Miami-Dade County down in Homestead, Southern Miami-Dade

that have way better pieces of property that do not present any danger to critical habitat or to endangered species, where you are more than welcome to build it, and I will be the first one to support it. Even though I find it kind of strange, why do we build a water park in Miami when we have so many beaches and pools? And I don't think there's been a water park

that has survived in Miami for any length of time. So I don't know where they're getting their formula and their projections, but if you wanna build it somewhere else, I'm happy to support that. The ocean is dangerous, Ron, that's why. We need water parks. I mean, McKay told us to stay out of the ocean, you know? Adam McKay. I mean, where else are we supposed to go? We we need water parks. I mean, McKay told us to stay out of the ocean, you know, out of McKay.

I mean, where else are we supposed to go? We need a water park. Rowan, you got to pull at your house. You voted for it, Rowan, not me. You got to pull at your house, do that? I don't know. You have any friends that have pools at their homes? Uh, no. I have no friends, obviously.

Right. Okay. As always, Rapids. Rowan, what time is this protest? Cause the dolphins jets kick off as at three. Okay, then we're going to make sure it's before then, so you're home and time to see it, okay? All right, very good. See you there.

Ron, one more question about this cause of yours, because I think it's important. When we talk about endangered species, everybody gets behind it if it's a big animal, a lion, an elephant. Here, the key animal trying to be saved is the Florida-bondered bat. Every species is important.

Tell people why, because a lot of people out there may be thinking, it's just a bat. You know, Greg, I'm so glad you brought that up. Because people are just saying that. You know, it's just some butterflies, a bat, some bugs, a turtle. Let me explain something to you. Bats first of all eat almost sex every day, every day. Insects can spread disease, can cause millions and millions of agricultural damage. If you don't have that control factor to control those insects that

can cause all that damage, spread disease. If you don't help the butterflies that pollinate the plants, that protect the tortoises that not only disperse the seeds to create these biodeverse environments, burrows where many other species use those burrows as their own homes, we are all connected. Listen, I'm low extremist guys, I want to make this very clear, okay? If there's a roach in my house, I step on it. I kill that connected. Listen, I'm low extremist guys, I want to make this very clear, okay? If there's a road to my house, I step on it. I kill that thing. Wow. Yes, I don't want to come off as some kind of extremist because extremism in any form

is dangerous. However, all these species were all connected guys. All connected. You know, at the sake of sound, I can appreciate that web. I am. Let me give you an analogy. Give them. Think of a plane flying.

Each species is a different rivet in that plane, okay? One species the plane can still fly right? He lose another rivet all of a sudden the plane gets a little shaky. Yep. Who's to predict when the rivet falls and the wing breaks off and the entire plane crashes guys? I'm just telling you I don't want to be some alarmist But look at what's happening with climate change with the changes the storms the floods the droughts the fires You have to be blind not to be realizing what's happening here. We have an obligation. Again, at the risk of sunny briefly, we have not inherited this earth from our parents,

man. We're barrened from our children. We've got a responsibility to them. Ron, I think Greg just wants a sexy animal to be endangered. You know what I mean? And like you as someone who's trying to preserve all these animals, ethically, would it be bad for you to endanger more sexy animal if at the end it helps us get what we want? Billy, you're a treasure.

You're a real treasure, Billy. Really? Ron, how can our listeners help you? What can they do? Who are the commissioners that they can write to so that there's even more of an inundation? You can go online, go to MimeDate.gov, and just go to MimeDate County Commission and write them. Just say, listen, we're behind this effort to try to move this water park somewhere else.

Zoo Miami is not the place. Is the true squirrels can vomit? What? Is it? I'm actually not sure Chris. I'm not sure I think I'm dumb. You stumped him. Let's roll that video please of the alligator and the human remains Ron.

Can you please explain to the people what happened here with this alligator, how rare it is for an alligator to have human remains in its mouth and your best theory as to what happened here with this alligator, how rare it is for an alligator to have human remains in its mouth and your best theory as to what happened there that resulted in an alligator having human remains in its mouth. Well, what obviously happened here is an alligator swallow human remains. Now how they got there is whether somebody drowned in the alligator fed on that person after

a drowning died or the alligator was the reason that person died, swimming at the wrong time, maybe walking along to shoreline, and alligator, as I said many times in this program, is not the brightest bulb in a chandelier. These animals live and survive by instinct. They do not know how to decipher between a flopping raccoon or a flopping kid or a human being or your pet or whatever. So they react to, you in the water in the evening or dusk or dawn when it's not very

light out. They're reacting to the vibrations in the water. It's time to get food. They're not looking at, I'm looking for humans. I want to get a human killer. That's not the case. This is extremely rare. Understand there are well over a million alligators in the state of Florida, and more people get hurt and injured by dogs, bees, and any other animal you can point out than they do by alligators. So people have to keep this in perspective. It is something that can easily be sensationalized. Yes, it's horrible, it's gruesome.

The alligator is not your furry, cuddly type of animal. So people are easy to kind of condemn them and look at them as these monsters. In fact, they're incredible animals. I've been around alligators on my life. I've never had a problem with never. These things are usually a mistaken identity. It's something that is unfortunate. It's tragic. I feel horrible for ever that person was and their family and friends. But at the end of the day, this was not an act of malice. If we learned to properly respect animals, respect their territories and their environment,

we should never be in a position in the earth by now. We have a squirrel update, Lucy, take it away. No rodents can vomit at all. Squirrels, mice, rats, gofers, beavers, and all other rodents cannot throw up. Put it on the pole, Juju. Did you know that rodents could not throw up. They're shutting down rides at Disney World because of bear sightings. We're going to play some

b-roll here. You're laughing, but there is a man here who's just wrestling with a bear. The b-roll here does not have any sound, but you have told us that you have to be very careful with these things that very often you're going to get mauled if you start frolicking with a bear, but this man clearly has no fear of this bear. What is happening in this video and how unwise is all of this? Well, it's not wise, but this is not a wild bear, guys. This is a setup thing for clicks and for likes and done very, you know, in such a way to imply, oh my God, this guy encounters this bear in the forest. There's dancing. There are many years. So is everybody in that photograph in that video. This is just a stage thing for clicks and you guys fell for it.

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There's no special tree down there. That's not true, that is not true. That is not true. I feel like it's true. There's no special tree down there. That is not true. No way, let me break this. This is nonsense.

This is the Don Lebertar Show with this Stugats. I have fallen out of the chief demos on what it is people crave from their celebrity, from their Taylor Swift content, when Taylor Swift going to a football game somehow shakes and rattles the entirety of my football Sunday because so many people are talking about the idea that she would be dating a tight end. A tight end who is all of a sudden stugots coming for the top spot in stardom where the quarterbacks reside in that sport because now his podcast is knocked out all the murder podcasts.

All of the murder podcasts. America's obsession with murder and darkness has been knocked out by the Kelsey It's ahead of date line. It's ahead of everything. It's the number one podcast in America and it's a side project with the fame that comes I've told you before Evidently, this is something that is true of K-pop and boy bands and phenomenon, but I in my life had never heard of a ticket so hard to get in music that the stadium is sold out and the parking lots outside of the stadium are filled with people who couldn't get in who are singing the songs outside. Travis Kelsey, I don't know that he knows exactly what he's welcomed into his life, but the front end of it is hugely profitable because I was surprised how fast these metrics got out as if

Kelsey's people are trying to get them out because they've got a very popular documentary on Amazon to go with their podcast and these metrics that he added 300 social media followers that his merch has 300,000 300,000 I'm sorry yeah 300,000 excuse me000. I'm sorry, yeah, 300,000. Excuse me, thank you. Good correction. That he's at 400% merch increase. That he's got a top five jersey in the NFL. His people were very quick with the information

only they have to get that out there. And now, El Duncan is filing this. He's not the only one doing this because a lot of people's do-guess are talking about fascinated by a pop star dating a Travis Kelsey who is angling to become the biggest star in the sport. Now keep in mind. I think he's there, Dan. The quarterbacks are a big deal. I don't know if he's bigger than Patrick Mahomes on his own team, but maybe he was on Sunday. Grunk was a certain kind of famous for winning personality,

commercial success and excellence, but a tight end can only usually get so famous in that sport. Travis Kelsey is about as good as Grunk, maybe better, somehow even though Grunk, maybe better, somehow even though Grunk's the best I've ever seen. And here's Eldunken questioning everything about what it is you saw on Sunday. It's a stunt, it's a stunt.

And there was nothing more clear than it was a stunt than watching them leave the arena together. He looked nervous, he looked like he had zero game, it was the most platonic walk of all time. That's all I kept thinking when they were walking by platonic, he's never touched that woman. They're not dating, this is a stunt. Now, when I said he does not know that woman,

he doesn't know that woman, okay, maybe he does. Apparently he does. They're. Okay, maybe he does, apparently he does. They're not dating. The most private, the most private pop star we've ever seen in terms of celebrities. We never find out who she's dating until she writes about them years later. And I'm supposed to believe

that she's got a real thing brewing after what I saw on Sunday? Lies! No! No! I will die on this hill if they are not dating. Who cares, lady? Why?

Why? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, who cares if they're, if they're, it's a stunt. It's fun. Taylor Swift is the biggest star in the world. He's a rock star tight end. They're doing this together, whether or not they're dating, who cares? It's fun. This is a great use of celebrity by Taylor Swift.

And she doesn't need the attention, believe me. She's doing it because it's fun. And you know it. I mean, come on. You thought you were out of the demo. I mean, I've grown too old to talk about this stuff. Let's bring in somebody who's made of mummy materials. It's fun. The whole thing is fun. I don't care if they're really dating or not and why would she? If they're dating great, good luck to them. If they're not, who cares? It's a stunt. I am totally with you.

I'm tired of the Kelsey's, by the way. I mean, I am the podcast. You have one guy on the eagles. You have one guy on the chiefs. I told everyone here at MetaLock that podcast was gonna be a massive success and I was right, but I am tired of that. Because Jason now has this documentary

I watched it. It's great, but my wife will not shut up about the Kelsey's. She will not. She is obsessed with the Kelsey's with Taylor, which Travis with Jason. Oh, I hope the Eagles win the Super Bowl. What a way to go out for Jason. She's never had a football opinion in her life. Now she's an Eagles fan.

I'm tired of it, Dan. They're taking over the planet. They really are my entire TikTok for you page. It's just girls talking to their boyfriend, filming it. We're like, do you know who this Travis Kelsey guy is? Have you ever heard of him before? He only popped up on the maps and Taylor started dating him. Even I'm exhausted by this,

and this is everything I thought I could ever want. Like, I then you get it. And then I can't believe the amount of theorizing that's going on, the amount of attention that's being paid to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, but it's because there are really so many fun little nuggets within this Taylor Swift going on Sunday and taking the NFL spotlight from usher being announced as the Super Bowl halftime show by Kim Kardashian of all people. I mean, can we talk about that element of this guys?

Come on. This is good for the dolphins. This is a distraction for that team. You saw Patrick Mahomes looking up there. You had to get his way in before the game. I'm telling you, this is all good for the dolphins distraction. Yeah. I think what Elle missed in that video, she talked about how's a platonic walk. I don't think it was so much that as a face of someone who

has realized what they've gotten themselves into. And she just met his mom. They did. Yes, she did meet his mom. Also, yeah, it seems to. He just met her. He's nervous. It's really fast. Also, the part about her being like Taylor Swift's very private with her personal life in her states. That's literally not true at all. I know pretty much every person Taylor Swift stated that I'm not a fan of her. Wow. One of the observations that I have, I don't know maybe our audience doesn't know who Kevin Fetterline is, but Britney Spears when she was young, a lot of people got mad that Kevin Fetterline and everything he represented just not being

quite sophisticated enough for not apples apples. He was a backup dancer. Kelsey's an all pro. I'll tell you. Thank you, Batman. Thank you, Batman. I appreciate all your work so far this hour, including being the hype man for Ron McGill when you talked about and protected. It wasn't weird. You didn't understand that it was in defense of bats. You were doing a different show. You didn't understand that it was in defense of bats. You were doing a different show. You didn't understand what Chris was doing. I wanted to defend water point.

You just thought he was being a hype man. You didn't understand why he was being the hype man because Ron McGill was speaking favorably about that. It was the next level. You're right. It wasn't the next level. You're just a fool. But going back to Kevin Federline,

I'm sorry. Kevin Federline, the reason this is apples to apples is when you see the still photos of Travis Kelsey, he's just physically, if you took Kevin Federline and with a bicycle pump, added a hundred pounds of muscle to him, he would become just in look not in personality because federal line was a dope and and Travis Kelsey has some substance to him and some fond and some charisma but but physically he looks like an inflated Kevin federal line. I want to

go back for a second though. I really feel that Greg Codys, lady, was soaked in so much acid as to be borderline sexist. Shut up lady. Did I say shut up? I don't think so. He didn't say so. Who cares lady? Who cares the lady? The lady? The lady? That's different than John. Not as aggressive. Who cares lady as l don't get accused is the whole relationship of being alive because i wouldn't go that far but as a publicity stunt it's a pretty great one it's a great one and who can and who cares if it's all contrived right who cares if it's contrived that that to have more people watch kelsie's uh... documentary but i don't need this why would it's contrived to have more people watch Kelsey's documentary.

But Taylor doesn't need this. Why would it be contrived? Taylor doesn't need more attention. Well, Billy, you should say that. What is the upside for Taylor? Well, if you start doing some digging, you start figuring out Amazon partnerships that maybe the Kelsey's have, that maybe Taylor Swift has.

Oh, come on. Get anything, be tragic. Well, hold on a second. And then you start looking into, well, Taylor's his concert tour is going to have a movie come out with date is that movie come out. Oh, it's the day after the chiefs play on Thursday night football on Amazon weird. I think it's a good like if it is a son, it's a good start for the NFL. It's a good stuff for Taylor except for Travis Kelsey because if things end, those fans are, they're insane.

I would hate to be him. Like, no, I don't think he will be fine because they're meaner than any fan base you'll find in the NFL. They're crazy. He mean it than a Raiders? Yeah. He was the mark on this.

Like he doesn't know that he was the bobble in this situation that is kind of being taken advantage of because it seems like he's going to be the one that falls at the end of this like Taylor Is not going to come down as it is our fans are now learning what football is and explaining it to each other on Twitter Which is incredible then they're claiming that he is going to assault her because he punched someone in a practice one time And they're saying we should be worried for Taylor safety because this is a clear assault here Then they're bringing Taylor into the whole situation with the chiefs and it's the chiefs

an appropriate name or not for a football team. So Taylor's gonna have to solve that issue. A lot of things are going on here, Dan. Dan, did you believe that she's stuck out in a popcorn machine or not? If there's any faction of America that can actually influence the NFL for the better though, is it not Swifties?

I believe that they could pull at like seven or eight percent Taylor Swift for the president and I think that they have enough of a bully pulpit that they can influence the NFL for the better and get the NFL trending in the right direction. But at the expense of Travis Kanks. They're looking into his taxes now, Dan. I don't know if Travis Kelsey knows exactly what he's not going to survive. He's not going to survive. He's gotten himself into. I won't know if Travis Kelsey knows exactly what he's not gonna survive. He's not gonna survive. He's not gonna have gotten himself into.

I won't end his life. The look that you saw on his face is the look of a high school quarterback. And it's just in the pocket. And it's just in the pocket. Really, really, really popular theater girl who's a little too overeager and he's starting to realize what's going on. Let's play the video of Greg Cody being sexist. Who cares, lady?

Why? Lady! Lady! What are you doing? She's our friend! She's our friend! sexes. Who cares lady? Why? Lady.

What are you doing? She's our friend. She's our friend. She's our friend. She's our friend.