The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Mike's Chocolate Friends (feat. Jessica Smetana)

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

"...a no-talent, dirty, rotten player!" Jess stops by to walk us through the Women's Final Four matchups, Director's Cuts, Tiger Woods' call to 'The President,' and the latest on the drama over Ree...se's Peanut Butter Cups. We also listen to some brilliant new sound from Steve Holman, the man who brought you 'The Heat are resorting to thuggery.' Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Ten count. Look at that. We got fireworks on the screen. All right. We did it, everybody. We made it to Friday. Friday's got a field to it. You just got out here. Made it to Friday. It is a weird. Your fly fishing yesterday. This is your Monday.
Starting point is 00:02:20 TGIF. It is like a really weird move that I used to make fun of. One of my former co-os and local radio, Brett Romberg, used to pull this move, where Romberg would be on vacation and he'd miss the week, but he'd come back on Friday. And you would do the show. Why are you back? I had that thought when I heard you were coming in a day. Right. It's a weird. move that I just pulled that. So you're just bit, you know, biting off the wrong. You could have so
Starting point is 00:02:41 easily just gone home and yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. So team guy. That speaks to my character, right? I thought I was supposed to be back. I was supposed to be back on Friday. Let one of my kids home. I was supposed to be back on Friday, but we came back a day early. So it's like, you know what? I'm, I can come in and work. That speaks to my character. Okay. Thank you for acknowledging that. Jessica, would you like to acknowledge that. Jessica, would you like to acknowledge that. I would acknowledge that I thought you meant your character on the show, which I was going to say what character. But now I realize you meant your character is in your moral upstanding.
Starting point is 00:03:11 That's right. And that I also don't know very much about. Do you have an arena or stadium, Jess, that you had heard great things about? You got to go visit it. You got to catch a game there. And then you went to know the dump. Okay. I wouldn't say dump, but I didn't love Jerry World.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I got to be honest. Too big. Too big. Which is too big. It's just too big. But I also went for a college football game, which is not a college football stadium. All right. Women's Final Four tonight Help me out here Okay, because
Starting point is 00:03:40 Help him Like, I know you follow it closely I follow it on the periphery You know like I You know the deal I'm done to do shows at ESPN obviously No no no what I mean You're wearing a backwards hat
Starting point is 00:03:53 What I mean by that is I do shows on ESPN So I have to know what's going on I'm a 40 plus white male You know the deal That's what I mean all right I tell my wife to calm down But help me out here
Starting point is 00:04:03 Jess I don't know if you wear It never works That never works. Telling the wife to calm down, never works. All right. Anyway, tonight is the women's final four. But help me out here. Like, has there been a day yet in this women's tournament?
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's like, wow, we had a great slate of games today. I feel like there's been really great games, but the best four teams that have been the best four teams this whole season, that were the best four teams at the end of last season, have just been a step above the teams behind them. So the great games, I would say, have been mostly amongst those teams with themselves. And so last weekend, the Elite A games were all, I wouldn't say they were all like huge blowouts. I'd say like the Texas Michigan game was a huge blowout.
Starting point is 00:04:46 But like some of them are close, but you could obviously tell like the better team was going to win by 15 to 20 points. But I would say like between, yeah, like the fifth to 25th ring teams and beyond that, there were some really good games in the mix. There's just four teams this year that were so much better than everyone else. So tonight, like, we fully expect then. We're getting games tonight. Like, these two games tonight are going to be games. I think so. I think the Yukon, South Carolina game right now, I saw the point spread was like four and a half points, five and a half points, something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So, like, that's pretty close. Six and a half, yeah. Six and a half, okay. UCLA, Texas, will like one and a half. That's the later game. So I think Yukon, South Carolina, I'm really happy that's a final four game and not a potential championship game because that was what the championship game was last year. I think this is a really exciting game because South Carolina is kind of the underdog. And like, they're just never really the underdog.
Starting point is 00:05:38 This has been a dynasty program under Don Staley for the last decade plus. And right now, UConn's coming in as the team with has not lost a game yet this season. But also, like, if UConn makes it to the final four and loses, the season's a failure, right? So, like, they've got a lot to lose. And South Carolina can kind of play spoiler to that. But, yes, this is the championship game, right? The winner of this whole thing will come out of Yukon, USC. I wouldn't say so.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I think, you know, UCLA is really, really good. UCLA has won some tough games this year. I think there was a modest debate whether or not UCLA or Yukon should have been the overall one C. They have Lauren Betts on their team who's a 6-7 center. She's really good. Kiki Rice, who's going to be a lottery pick. Yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Really? Really? Really. In the W&B draft. And then Texas has Madison Booker. They've been playing really well. They're coming back. They beat South Carolina in the SEC championship game, you know, less than a month ago.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So obviously we know they can go head to head with South Carolina. So I wouldn't say that necessarily. I would kind of say that about the men's final four. I think Arizona and Michigan, whoever wins that game, I probably would make them, you know, my favorite to win the championship. But you never know. Yukon, you know, it wasn't that long ago when they were doing literally all the winning. It was really easy to root against Riemma. they always have all the star players.
Starting point is 00:07:00 But now, even with them undefeated, I don't feel that way. Like, is it still like that that most everyone roots against this big Yukon machine? I would say, well, for me, as a Notre Dame fan, yes, like, obviously I don't like Yukon. They're arrival of Notre Dame. But I would say people have said that since the eight-year title drought, Gino has softened. I think he's kind of like a little like grandpa figure. And so he's a little easier to, you know, more palatable for people that aren't UConn fans to root for him now. I'd say like Paige Beckers as one of the coolest college women's basketball players in a long time
Starting point is 00:07:40 certainly helped his popularity with a lot of people, including me. I was like, damn, I don't like Yukon, but Paige is pretty cool. She's a cool, cool lady. But I think still they're, you know, I would say from the average fan, it's more boring if they win. If they just steamroll through everyone, steamroll through the Final Four, steam roll through the championship game, I think most, most people would say Zaz, like, that's kind of a boring outcome. It'd be cool to see, like, Texas and UCLA, they were in the final four last year, but before that hadn't been to a final four in over, what, four decades. So it'd be kind of
Starting point is 00:08:10 cool to see some new blood, even though they're, like I said, two of the best teams this season, by far, they're somewhat, you know, new to the final four, and it would be a big deal for either of them to win a championship. So I don't know, might make people a little bit more excited. So the women's final four is tonight gets going at 7 o'clock, and the next one is at 9.30. Tomorrow, the men's final four. Is it like, am I being dopey if I wonder, why aren't they, I guess essentially? During the day? No, no, maybe not necessarily.
Starting point is 00:08:40 They're too late. Zaz, they're too late. I'm sorry. The second game's out at like 930. What are we doing? No, no, no. That's what I mean. So tomorrow with the men's final four, am I being dopey for not understanding why they
Starting point is 00:08:54 don't recede the men's final four once we get to the final four. You have one versus one and two versus three. Like, am I missing something there where, like, I guess it's easy enough where are it. This side of the bracket plays, this side of, like, that's how they do it. But why don't they recede instead of us having two number ones face each other tomorrow and a two versus three? Like, why isn't it one versus two, one versus three? Because I would ruin your office bracket pool. I mean, don't, keep it simple, stupid. This is what I'm actually, and I'm not even joking, one of the things I'm the most concerned about if they do expand, which a lot of people think is inevitable and there will be expansion of the NCAA tournament in the near future. Yeah, more games, more teams. There's
Starting point is 00:09:37 going to be more games like Tuesday, Wednesday, and then fewer teams in the full bracket, I guess. I don't, I read an article about I don't want to overcomplicate things. But my biggest concern is it's going to F with people's brackets because selection show if it's on Sunday, now you've got to do a bracket by Tuesday. And then if you got all these play-in games, how are you going to select the next round if there's so many games contingent upon who wins the playing-in game? And then is that going to ruin the entire fun communal aspect of
Starting point is 00:10:04 stealing out a bracket at work? I'm concerned. So I totally hear what you're saying, and it sounds like you're probably right about that. But that's stupid then. If we're basing how we're going to format the tournament instead of trying to make it the best possible, competition, we have to make sure everyone can pick their brackets.
Starting point is 00:10:25 That's dumb. I think really to answer your question is like this is the format that we've selected, right? Just the straight bracket, no receding. You get the luck of the draw in some instances in your region. And then, you know, if there's a huge upset in another region, you might be lucky. You might that might help you out. And that's kind of how it works. In some years, the team that wins the tournament might not have been the best team in all
Starting point is 00:10:49 college basketball and like that's okay because they won the tournament how it's set up and you have to deal with it. Zaz we've been doing this for a billion years everyone loves it. Well I preface it with I'm being dopey. All right I said that. You're being dopey. If I preface what I'm going to say with I'm being dopey
Starting point is 00:11:05 I'm asking you as a question. I can then say whatever I want to mean. Well no you still get called a dope though at the end of it. All right. Well it was a question. Jessica. Thank you, I needed a little backup. You're welcome. I've been tripping all morning long over seeing this video of Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Oh, God. What, cops call him over, and he does the nonchal, sorry, I was talking to the president. We actually had a spirited debate on whether he could have been talking about the president of his Homeowners Association or maybe of a car dealership nearby. What was your reaction when you saw it, not only what he said, but how he said it, and we got the video here so we could roll it. Take it. Just keep you down here with us, please.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah, I was talking to the president. Oh, my. The hand flip. The hand flip. where he's just like no big deal. This thing here? Connected to power. You guys know who he's dating, right?
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah. Dating. Yeah. Who's dating? Oh, you got, he's dating. Don Jr.'s ex-wife, Vanessa Trump. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But also, but also even before that, obviously tight. Right. He won some award from the president, obviously friendly. I think he won like the Medal of Freedom. Medal of Freedom, yeah. I wanted to respect it. And they go golfing. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:12:19 were doing a thing there. I just forgot what it was called. Yeah, they're buddies. So I think he really did mean the president. And I'm assuming that he said that to, I mean, the cops already knew he was Tiger Woods. I'm assuming. But I assume that he named drop the president to try to be like, you guys like that guy, right? Like, we're all. Well, does that help? Like, because the cops definitely know he's Tiger Woods. If you know he's Tiger Woods and you're not about to let him off, isn't there like nothing Tiger can do at this point to get off then? That's one hell of a hell Mary. I would assume that's the case, Zaz. I would assume, and given how I read some of the transcripts, I watched some of the body camera stuff, the officer who arrested him was like, I can't let you go.
Starting point is 00:13:02 You don't seem okay. I have to do the right thing. Maybe if this was a borderline case, but again, I don't, I wasn't there. I don't know. I've just seen the videos and he did not seem well. Have you seen the memes made of the picture? I've seen every meme of him kneeling down where he looks like a high school football coach. That's a good one. That's a good one. Breaking a huddle or breaking it to the little league team that they're not getting new cleats for the season. That's my person. The ET one. The ET ones are the best. Yeah. It's a bad situation. But yeah, that did not make him look good. And now it's what? April 3rd and we've gotten two DUI. videos of celebrities on our timelines, the Justin Timberlake one.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I mean, did you see Justin Timberlake? I saw it. I saw it, but I thought I saw it when it happened. Like, this was like a year ago or so, maybe even longer. It was a while ago. Yeah, it's been a while. You saw one part of it. You saw just the clip of him like standing outside of the car and maybe for just a moment
Starting point is 00:14:05 walking, but this was, I mean, it felt like we were getting the extended version. Oh, yeah. We got the director's cut. He's in the station. He's filling out the four of it says race. white, which I thought was wow. That was great. He's a showman. He could be
Starting point is 00:14:20 shitty, it could be a terrible moment, but that's a showman turning it on. That's a charm. Have you ever watched a movie and then you've watched the director's cut? And you're like, whoa, director's cut, so much better. I've seen both. I've seen directors got so much better.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I've seen, yeah, the studio was right. That's Lord of the Rings. The Directors' cut's better and the studio was right. Absolutely. Lord of the Rings. You know, the Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings, the director's cut. I don't think I've ever seen Lord of Rings directors cut. It's four and a half hours long.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Oh my God, it's so, the return of the king is so. How does the director, when he makes the movie before the studio tells him, you got to cut it down, how does he think then four and a half hours is an acceptable movie to put in theaters? Because, yeah, I don't know. The paycheck says it's, they filmed all that stuff. They want to use it. They spent a lot of money on that scene with the Sauron, the mouth of Sauron. They want to put that in the movie.
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Starting point is 00:15:42 yelling about a miss call and the game's coming down on the final possession it's one of those nights that you look around you take a sip and you think yeah this was the right call
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Starting point is 00:18:16 Miami, they were simulating the snap count the entire game, and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage. And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Met in my face, Mike Scher. All right, so that's one thing. Stugats. There are a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And he can watch if he wants. This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats. I do think that there. is like one really good example of the director's cut totally changing the movie experience making a bad movie something that's at least tolerable what don't say justice league no no no no not not the it's Miami Vice Miami Vice yeah really the Mike loves the director's cut the director's cut the this is is much better do they still know a good place to get a more you uh you bet your ass you know okay so directors cut was so much longer or like it was longer but like so famously there were all
Starting point is 00:19:16 sorts of problems on the set. Jamie Fox at one point quit the film, which is why the movie is almost the one that was in theaters. Jamie Fox is like barely in it. Oh really? So it does plug a few holes in it and it makes it, it shouldn't have been Miami Vice. And I think Michael Mann even said like in one quote, he's like, I just wanted to do this cop movie and the only way that I can get the studio to do it was by saying I'm returning to the Miami Vice franchise. But it's not a Miami Vice movie. It's way too dark. If you get that out of your mind, It's actually like a not bad cop movie. I don't know that I, like, I don't really, I don't know that I do directors cuts.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And I say that because obviously I've seen the, you know, studio version first. And I don't then go back and watch the director's cut because I feel like then the whole movie, I'm only just looking out for the stuff I didn't know, I didn't see previously. Like it's not a real experience. I'm with you too. Because like, with a Snyder cut, like, okay, I'm going to give you another chance to disappoint me. That's a whole different movie though. Yeah, but, and I had to be convinced to do the,
Starting point is 00:20:16 Miami Vice thing, but the internet was really insistent, like, no, it's actually not that bad if you watch the director's kind of, I'm kind of confirmed. You know what I'm saying? I'm coming with you, because I do get that paranoia. That wasn't in the original version. Yes, yes, it was. Oh, yeah, yeah, my bad, it was. Guys, just let the movie wash over you.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Don't think about it too hard. Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. Mike, can you tell me what happened at the Washington Whiz, because I was away this week, and I caught everything that happened, but there were some things that slipped through the cracks. Sit this one out. I got this. What happened at the Wizards game? I am fast.
Starting point is 00:20:50 This is the most, I mean, this is, I thought of you immediately when I saw this. So, they had a, like, a contest. Oh, shoot a half-court shot blindfolded. If you make it, you win $10,000. On April 1st. And so they got the guy down there, he's blindfolded. And all the mascots, you know, sometimes they invite mascots from other sports and other things.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Usually it's your mascot's birthday. Yeah, yeah, they do that a lot. Yeah. So they're all there. And right, here we go. One, two, three. and the guy, of course, like, misses it horribly. Can I ask you something so quick, though?
Starting point is 00:21:19 Can you hold on for a second? When they do the mascot birthday party, like, let's say it's the Atlanta Hawks mascot's birthday party. They want to invite Bernie. Yep. Does the actual Bernie get on a plane and go? He probably makes so much more money for that appearance than he does his normal. Who else would?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Put a pin in it. I will explain that whole world. Okay, you'll come back to me. I know all about the miles. Put a what in it? Pin place. A pin. A pin.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I heard pin it. All right. So the guy, of course, misses it horribly, but he's blindfolded. So everyone cheers, like, hey, we're going to cheer. Oh, my God, you made it, you made it. And they give him the big novelty check, and he's jumping up and down, and the mascots are celebrating. And then the inn arena host says, wait a second, let's watch the video again.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And it shows him missing. Like, oh, sorry, checks not yours thing. Now, what's the crowd doing during all of this? Well, they were cheering when they was like, hey, because we played along. This is a wizard's game. Let's be clear. Not much of a crowd. Crowd is.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Okay. Crowd's not really a part of the story. But they were told to kind of play along. Yes, they played along and then they pulled the check and then, you know, people booed or whatever. And so it's not even the first time that's been done. And it's outrage. Everyone's outrage. Outrage to the point where the Wizards had to release a statement on April 2nd.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Quote, we apologized for last night's April Fool's joke that left many wondering if we had misled a fan. The skit involving our mascot and other members of our performance team was scripted and intended to celebrate the day. All participants were in on the joke, but we missed it. the mark. Our fans are our priority and we continue to be committed to providing a positive experience to all who attend our games. There had to be a heated debate like in the wizards high up. Like we're not releasing that right?
Starting point is 00:22:57 I'm putting that out. I 100% can guarantee you because not only was there a debate but at one point someone said yo is it worth your job to fight for this and then just put it out. And that's the argument that what they missed the mark I mean what's the mark? Everybody there
Starting point is 00:23:15 the mark. That's the whole point. Yes. So it's April Fool's Day. It seemed like it seemed like the joke was on the guy who missed the shot the whole time, right? He thought he won 10 grand. But he was in on it. It turns out the joke was on everyone else who thought it was a real skit. And I feel like in that case, they kind of got us. Like it's kind of pretty good. Why are they apologizing? But Jessica, first of all, it's 2026. Why are we still falling for things on April 1st? They should have ended that statement with an, this was all in a April fools, we don't even mean this.
Starting point is 00:23:47 No, yeah, not an apology. April Fool, he was a real fan. Second of all, my first job in basketball was working game ops. And so we would do this stuff all the time. So let me tell you something. The thing where there's a fan of the other team and the mascot comes to the cake and then he That's real, right? Nope.
Starting point is 00:24:06 That guy works for the team. They bought a jersey from the other team just for him to have a cake mushed in his face. All of these things are made up. Hey, you know when there's like, hey, you know when there's like, hey, Which one of these trivia questions is the answer. You know what we do right before we go on air? We tell the guy the answer. What about when they do the kiss cam and the guy goes to kiss a girl and she says no?
Starting point is 00:24:29 And so then she turns to the guy next to him and they kiss. That's real, right? You like that one? Also, manufactured. Here's one of my favorite ones because Tom Havasro, the great Tom Havissel, did not know this. When they do the loud meter, guys get louder. You're lying now. Because the crowd, the crowd gets louder.
Starting point is 00:24:47 That's not a meter. That's just a video. Zaz, you like the Cuck Kiss Cam? I would never be a part of the Cuck Kiss Cam. You like the Cuck Kiss Cam? Never. I would never be a part of that. So when it comes to the mascots,
Starting point is 00:24:59 yeah, I'm interested in this. It's a secret society. They all know each other, right? What? And the whole thing, probably, the whole thing rests on, hey, when you invite me, hey, when we're going to do this birthday, whatever,
Starting point is 00:25:12 flight, hotel, and a nice appearance fee. So they all are incentivized to do it because like, oh yeah, my team's on the road? Hell yeah, I'm gonna get on a flight, go to Washington, hang out. Okay, but you're saying that, like, as if the mascot is in charge of like the finances.
Starting point is 00:25:28 No, no, they, man, they are in charge. First of all, the mascots are incredibly well paid, right? The Denver, the Denver mascot makes like $600 grand a year. Dude, they're incredibly well. You didn't know that? Why would I know that? Because you know a lot of stuff you got a big out of head. Yeah, they're, they, they, they, they,
Starting point is 00:25:44 When I worked with the Panthers, a guy that was like Stanley C. Panther was also in charge of like some operations and logistics. They are so involved in the community. They go to all these events. Everyone just assumes like, Denver's mascot just repels. And that's all he does on game days. He works like three days a week. I think I assumed he was an hourly employee. Big cake behind him.
Starting point is 00:26:03 That's all they do. Harry the Hawk in Atlanta not only was like crazy page, but he had his own separate mascot company. So if you wanted like the Chick-fil-A cow to show up, and then cow and chicken... He courted the market on Atlanta mascots? All of them had to come through his company. You want to book mascots? You got to go through him. Sounds very mafioso.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I'm telling you, it's a secret society, man. Mascot Mafia. Man, the Netflix document right there. So you're telling me, like, Bernie, when he makes these appearance, he's actually flying out to these other arenas. Absolutely. In uniform. But who else would it be? I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:26:41 You think they just shipped the uniforms? They think they're renting a Bernie? You think every arena has all the mascot suits to just put someone in it? I like the idea that it'd be... You think there's dozens of Otto the oranges laying around? No, I like the idea that he would look like the Bobo mascot that you get in, like, Times Square.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And, you know, it's like they're really dressed down. There's a ponytail coming out of it. It's all on there. It's Ernie. A little gut coming out to under the shit. That's right. I like that. Oh, no, man. And you ask, like, they all have these budgets for these things,
Starting point is 00:27:10 like Bernie's birthday or whatever. And so they know, hey, I'm going to take care of my people because it comes back around. And again, they know all of them across sports, baseball, football, hockey, everything. Wow. I love the idea of, like, some mascot, like, off duty, listening to our show right now and just feeling alone because they don't have a lot of friends. Amin's telling you that they all hang out. And he's like, I don't hang out with any of the other mascots. They're probably like, I mean, shut up.
Starting point is 00:27:38 It's supposed to stay in a club. The Atlanta guy. Speaking of the Atlanta guy Jess I don't know if you saw this or heard this So the Hawks played the magic two nights ago It was on Wednesday nights The Hawks never lose So they blew out the magic
Starting point is 00:27:52 First before I get into this Like can the Hawks win a series? Yeah absolutely So they're like a real team Yeah yeah yeah absolutely How? They defend they're versatile They make threes
Starting point is 00:28:05 They're very well coached Contrary to the belief of Dan Lebitard and like they've got some vets they've got everything got a little bit of everything not enough to go deep
Starting point is 00:28:16 they got Mike Bray they got Mike Bray on the bench that's right I mean they're like they're like they're in Trent they're in the five seed now they're not going to catch four but they're Cleveland's worried though
Starting point is 00:28:25 yeah there are four games up I don't say Cleveland words a four to play them yeah yeah and by the way if you play Detroit and who knows what Kade's gonna look like in the second round
Starting point is 00:28:35 like you hope he's back and he's fine but if he's not like yeah man Is that a big indictment on Trey Young? That they are this much better after losing him? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Okay. Going for two when you're up by five. Switching the zone when man isn't working. Oh, and building your new stadium in the state your team actually plays in. In sports, some things just make sense. You know what else makes sense? Drinking Yeagermeister shots. Ice cold.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Drinking it any other way would be like punting on first down. or letting your worst hitter bat first are like going for two when you're down three with a second to go. It wouldn't make any sense. So don't let the team down when it comes to Yeagermeister, drink it cold or don't drink it at all!
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Starting point is 00:30:11 with these two gods. A couple of nights ago, Hawks and Magic. And there was, you may remember the Hawks' radio voice. Mike Ryan, you may remember, right? Years ago. The streets up. It was the 2009. 2009 postseason where the Hawks played the heat in the first round,
Starting point is 00:30:37 and James Jones mixed it up with someone for the Hawks. This was like one of the worst seven games series of all time. Every game was a blowout. NBA TV, right? It was all NBA TV. It was a blowout. It was a seven game series. I flew to Atlanta for game seven.
Starting point is 00:30:51 It was a bad game. To watch the heat get smoked on a Sunday afternoon in game seven. I went to that game. It was awful. Yeah. And we were still trying to position, compete, but position for like the pie in the sky, big three. Right, right. We were two years in front of the summer of 2010.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And so. Germain O'Neill got us. Right, right. And Germain O'Neill didn't playing game seven. He had a concussion. So, anyway, that was the series where there was. There was a bit of a scuffle early in the series, and he was like game three or game four, something like that. Steve Holman is the Atlanta Hawks radio voice.
Starting point is 00:31:24 He's been their voice for like 30 years. He's like an institution there. But he's kind of a crazy person. And you may remember back then, the Miami Heat have resorted to thuggery. And just on and on. Oh, here it is. Now down low, it's going to be Al Horford. He drives.
Starting point is 00:31:38 He goes up and get knocked out hard. Oh, my goodness. The heat have resorted to thuggery. And Al Horford's slow to get up. Miami, they're down by 19 and they have to resort to the street stuff. That should be a flagrant foul. These Miami Heat players are street thugs. Damn.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Dan is so mad we're talking about this about it. That sounds like the 1960s. Does. Right. Can you replace Al Horford with a different player's name? One of the funnier parts of it is the way that he says, the Miami Heat are down by 19. It feels like in today's game, you're down by 40. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:14 You know, saying they're down by 19. They're down by 40. So they have to resort to the street stuff. Right, right. That's what 19 points were like back then. So that is Steve Holman. And that is not an isolated, you know, occurrence, that type of call. So two nights ago, Jess, Orlando was facing Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And Gogh Batadzee of Luca Donchich, I will F your entire family fame. Goga-Batazi committed a hard foul and on someone from Atlanta and here was the call. In the lane, get it knocked away, but it goes right to Jonathan Camiga. Now to Jock who goes up and got fouled hard. Jock Landale just got knocked down
Starting point is 00:32:55 a terrible dirty play by the Orlando Magic. This is what they do. They just knocked down Jack Landale and hurt him badly. Oh my goodness. Somebody should get thrown out of this game. What a dirty, rotten team this Orlando Magic is.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Oh, my goodness gracious. Jack Landale got knocked down hard. Dyson Daniels wanted to go over and help him. Pray to God that Jack Landale has not hurt badly, folks. That was a dirty rotten play by Orlando. I don't care what anybody says or anybody replays on this one. This is a dirty rotten team. They get down by 30 points, and this is what they do. They are dirty rotten players, every one of them on that team. Can't take to losing. The Hawks are going to be four and oh against this team. They whine and complain on everything, and then they go to dirty rotten tactics. But Dotsie has no business even being in the
Starting point is 00:33:41 league. Gogobadazzi should be thrown out of the game, thrown out of the league for a play like that. He is a no talent, dirty, rotten player. They're going to come over and look at this. They better throw him out on a flagrant two. There's no doubt that this should be a flagrant two. If they call anything else, it's wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:57 The prior foul is under review for a potential flagrant fail. No kidding. Thank you very much, Ed Beloy. Mr. Obvious. This guy's goaded, dude. I love this guy. Awesome. No kidding. I've never heard someone under the age 90 say dirty rotten. That is an old man's phrase.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Like when he says Goga Batadzi should be thrown out the league. Like at that point, you question whether or not it's a real call. And yes, that is a real call. That was the Atlanta Hawks radio two nights ago. By the way, Goga Batadzee, the player who, Jacques Laundale, the player who he hurt got up and walked off under his own power. The prior fails under review for potential flagrant fail. No kidding. Thank you very much. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:34:45 He called Ed Malloy, Captain Obvious. Could there have been a funnier ref name to say in that moment than Ed Malloy? It's a good one. It's perfect. Oh, my God. I do like also his adjustment, like 20 years ago, it was, they're down by 19, and that's, like, insurmountable. The new conversion rate is they're down by 30. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And it's because the magic are 0 and 4 against Atlanta this year. so they have to, they're a dirty rotten team. Seven times he said dirty rotten. They are dirty rotten players. Every one of them on that team. Can't take to losing. The Hawks are going to be four and oh against this team. They whine and come.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I love that every last one of them. And also the idea that like I don't care what anyone says. I don't care what you replay. Like he's basically waiting for this to be played on the website. He knows it's going to get clipped. Yeah. Like every player, like the Wagner brothers, I could see you saying they're dirty. Desmond Bain.
Starting point is 00:35:40 he's got a little bit of that. But there's not one guy on the team who's not dirty rotten? Anthony Black, you're dirty. Not one guy is not dirty rotten. You're dirty. Jaylen Suggs, get out of here. Dirty. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Jailant Sugg seems like a nice guy. Dirty rotten. Every one of them. Jess, I heard a rumor that Hershey is changing the recipe to Reese's, but the thing that shocked me was the headline said they're changing it back. And I said, I never knew they changed it to begin with. Well, we talked about this on the show because a few months ago, the Reese's heir, like the grandson of the guy that started Reese's. Jerry Reese?
Starting point is 00:36:21 I don't remember his first name, honestly. Pewie. Tommy Reese. He sent a letter or a LinkedIn post accusing Hershey's of changing the recipe and basically like the equivalent of like watering down the recipe to the Reese's cups. And exactly. Like the chocolate's less chocolatey and the peanut butter is less peanut buttery. And then there was a whole backlash outrage. So, you know, everyone said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:49 People, including me, said, I've been saying this for a while. This is not tasted right. Some of these rhesies do not taste good. In fact, I stopped eating them all together. And I used to be a fan, especially this time of year when the eggs would come out because everyone knows that is the best racy's shape. Now, is it also for the pieces? No.
Starting point is 00:37:09 the pieces recipe is a newer concoction and has remained peanut buttery hard-coated and delicious. I have not noticed a quality change in PCs. No, it's not PCs, it's Pieces. No, it's Rees' Pieces Peas. What are Peacys?
Starting point is 00:37:25 Rees. That's one step away from Feces. This guy tagged everybody in the letter. Todd, you've built a career on the belief that a good story is a heart of any conversation? This guy is in the chocolate industry circle,
Starting point is 00:37:43 which I'm very dialed into, considered a coo. You have chocolate friends? Yeah. Well, no, I read a Darren Reveh. Yes, I do. Whoa, what are you going on now? You've met Joelle?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Oh, yeah. No, like, Darren Revelle, like, said, like, this guy tries this every year, and he's finally gotten traction on this, even though I think, like, Darren Revelle was one of the people that put it out there. He's on the food and confection beat, so that would make sense.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Apparently his family's had an axe to grind since they sold Reese's. Well, I mean, fair enough if they made the product crappier. But I saw a CBS story, Zaz from this week, which now I'm like, this was on April 1st. So hopefully it wasn't a joke. And it said, Hershey said it will use classic recipes for all Reese's products starting next year. A change that comes after the grandson of Reese's founder criticized the company for shifting to cheaper ingredients. I'll tell you, I don't get stuff like this. You know, who was eating Reese's back, you know, before they changed recipes?
Starting point is 00:38:43 Like, you know what? Let's change this. Everybody liked Reese's. Why do they change stuff? Probably save money because they probably could, yeah, exactly. You sell the company and then the quality goes down the shitter. That's how it works in this country. Why use good stuff when you can do cheap stuff and then make more money?
Starting point is 00:38:59 Part of the opposition stuff that I've seen is it's been changed for a very long time. Like, the information that he's using is dated because, like, he's using. using original recipe stuff from when his family owned it. And he's just bitter to that. They sold it for what they did. So I'm looking at his LinkedIn, right? And I'm looking at, you know, this is how LinkedIn. His name is Brad, by the way.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Brad Reese. And most of them, so you got, I've got just a smattering. You know how they have some suggested ones on the side. Reggie Grant, managing director at Alliance networking. Lee Lipton, principal owner at Benny's on the beach. Alexandria Barnett, international correspondent, specializing in golf, boating, et cetera, et cetera, right? Brad Reese, his thing is protecting Reese's brand integrity. That's his job.
Starting point is 00:39:41 And then he signs off the letter with that. And then also grandson of H.B. Reese, parentheses, who invented Reese just in case you were lost on why this guy's opining here. I mean, hey, I mean, if your grandfather invented one of the most iconic products in America, and then you grew up one day and that product didn't taste good anymore. Would you try to protect the family legacy? I mean, this is your last name.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I count my money. Because the real- I don't know if you got that much money. That's what Mike is saying, at least. They sold low? That's part of the narrative. That's what Mike's saying. I'm not saying that for the rubber.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Now, that sucks. Imagine. It's what my chocolate friends are telling me. I went to college with the, the grandson of the Iams empire but they sold it like they sold it generations ago
Starting point is 00:40:41 to Purina and so like his last name is Iams but he's like just a regular guy but everyone thinks like yo the ions in the dog yeah yeah my family oh my god and it's like so when we're going on the chopper I'm like no I drive a Carolla
Starting point is 00:40:55 you could check Jess out her weekly podcast with Michael Jr., the echoes. Echoes. Echoes. Great job, Jess. Good to see you. Jayneyes.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Jayne Ivy's mom. Should she say something about what Jane Ivis been saying? Oh, my God. I mean, I hope they're handling it in private. Seems like a issue. Seems like something's going on. Sure, there's an issue. Something's going on.
Starting point is 00:41:25 I'm just saying in her role as the... Like if no other day were still, if her team is still playing... From a PR stand. Yeah. Like she's the head coach of Notre Dame, the second biggest Catholic institution. If they were still playing, she would have had to have said something in one of her availability, right? Well, I'm sure someone would have asked her a question about it. My opinion on it, I mean, is that, well, here's my question to you first.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Do you think he's having some sort of like mental health? 1,000 percent. Okay. I agree with you. I think some people think he's not, and they're like, he's just speaking his mind. You should be allowed to do. We call those people biggest. Right. I think he's having some sort of mental health issue, it seems like. And if that's the case, I think she should, I respect that I think she should handle that in private.
Starting point is 00:42:11 But he's also like a grown adult man and has a wife and kids. So she's not like the only family member in his life, it seems. But certainly feel bad for everyone in that situation. I've been following his career for like a long time because, you know, she was, he was, he went to high school in South Bend and practice with the Notre women's basketball team when he was younger and when he was drafted and when he was in college, he did interviews and talked about how he was really close with a lot of the players on the team and he looked up to them and they were role models to him. So to me, like this whole thing, I know it's been kind of growing for a while, but it seems
Starting point is 00:42:47 like it kind of came out of left field based on how I perceived him when he was in college and was doing a lot of interviews in media and was really had like super high trajectory from a basketball standpoint. So this whole thing's been kind of weird and seems like something. thing is not right there. Again, the Echoes, her weekly Notre Dame podcast with Mike Golick Jr. Great job, Jess. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Bye. Going for two when you're up by five. Switching the zone when man isn't working. Oh, and building your new stadium in the state your team actually plays in. In sports, some things just make sense. You know what else makes sense? Drinking Yeagermeister shots. Ice cold.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Drinking it any other way would be like punting on first down or letting you your worst hitter bat first are like going for two when you're down three with a second to go. It wouldn't make any sense. So don't let the team down when it comes to Yeagermeister. Drink it cold. I don't drink it at all! Yeagermeister, damn, that's cold. Drink responsibly.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeagermeister liqueur, 35% alcohol by volume, imported by massed Yeagermeister U.S. White Plains, New York.

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