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Proximo. Cuervo.com. Please drink responsibly. Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar.

This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Number of different things that I want to talk about with Pablo Torre, his award-winning podcast, Pablo Torre Finds Out pales in comparison to Greg Cody's awards. Greg Cody came in today swaggering, saying that the 2025 FAF something or another awards

have been announced, and he has done something in one of those awards What have you won? It's actually it has a name. It's the it's the FSN talking to the mic Florida Society of News Editors um, it's just a state award, but they named me the uh the column rating winner and the reason that that means something to me is that it's not just sports columns It's you know Metro columns and all sorts of columns. Yeah, so I'm happy about it. So you are the best columnist in Florida in the state of Florida That's what they say. Yeah of any kind of any kind of any subject. I didn't even know I've been nominated I have no idea what columns won.

I just, they told me and. You sound like a champagne bottle opening. Like it's just effervescence spewing all over everyone. Congratulations on winning an award that you were bored to tell us what the acronym was for. Okay, no, Florida Society of News Editors, FSNE. I believe I mentioned that wrote wrote back the tape but it's just bored you mentioned't be all that happy about it

if that's the dismount. I'm pleased, but I'm not gonna oversell it. It's a state award. It's a state award. Greg, say what you wanna say. The way Dan entered into that conversation not knowing the FSNE, where he, Dan well knows who the FSNE is.

You used to be a columnist. That was disrespectful. I did John Halliburton that. Like that was disrespectful, but I really didn't know what the acronym was. I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. I just, I didn't know. Yeah, perhaps you would have Googled it and got it right but you know that you

that's not what you can i was a low bows award for the first half of what greg's wind up with other retargetable because he came in here and he said i've got a lot of stuff to talk about any opens with the f s whatever awards were announced and i'm looking at him i'm like why are you telling us about that answers because i wanted column writing. Well, first of all, that's not true. Anything you just said, I didn't lead with that. That was like the eighth or ninth item on my list of topics.

Let me tell you exactly. One, two, three, four, it was fifth. It was the fifth item. It was fifth. Is there a back in my day there on your list of topics? It's Thursday. Okay, no. So, all right, so what are the top four? Give me the top four. that's right it's been a while is there back in my day there on your list of top is thursday they know so all right so what are the top four give me the top for therapy body nomination on that list of the number two

no there isn't which is why i'm only pleased and not it will yet your right uh... son your right glass lens is falling up again that happens when i get agitated when you when you win column awards uh... what are your first four topics let's see if Pablo bites on any well the first one was I have a bag of old shirts and I'm not quite sure why the second one was little messy and inter-miami imploding yeah in an embarrassing ouster from the cock a calf champions coming just embarrassing the way they lost that and all of a sudden Leonel Messi and that team looked very very old and Vancouver ran all over them

and around them. My third item we've talked about this a lot was the Florida Panthers declaring with intent and ability that they can repeat as Stanley Cup champ and I'm the one who prefers Toronto in the second round not Ottawa. Ottawa would be the great brother versus brother. Toronto Maple Leaf fans are chirping loudly all over social media we want the Panthers. Are they saying that? Yes and you know what two things number one how about you get past Ottawa first and number two the Panthers rolled you out of the playoffs last year and the Panthers would love to play Toronto again. The next item is the Miami Grand Prix is Sunday in Miami and the only two F1 drivers that

anybody can name are not the favorite, which is good for the sport. And then comes my award, which is a state award and I'm not overselling it. Just please. What came after the award? Uh-huh. Uh. Golds. Oh, the Belichick girlfriend drama getting better and better I mean this is great

he came loaded today by the way you left one out I mean the statue conversation that that's we don't have to have that one yeah he's got a controversial opinion on statues Pablo you were about to say yeah I obviously I vote to find out about those shirts. Oh, okay. So did I by the way. So let's do this. Do any of you believe you have older shirts than Greg Cody has? No. Alright, let's get in position for this and as filibuster as we get into position, everyone get their t-shirts ready, their old t-shirts ready or their old clothes ready.

I do want to play this sound for Pablo, and I don't know if Pablo has in his home. He's in his home. Pablo, you can go to another room if you've already heard this Yana sound and get your oldest shirts that... Oh, I got... Dan, Dan, I got... You're talking to a guy with a bag of stuff. Okay. I find out stuff out of this closet, which is a closet full of bags of old stuff, so I'm ready for whatever day that i read so excellent so it sounds like people are prepared in the interim though i i want to play for you

something i don't do this very often i'm gonna play three and a half minutes or so of sound of the honest talking here because i believe that he defused a bomb in a way that was really graceful because in a different language than is his preferred language and I think is his third or fourth language he walked through crisis in a way that was honest and vulnerable and showed great grace to someone who had disrespected him in front of people and then afterward in the emotion of it handled it exactly the way that anyone would want the face of the league to handle something. Listen to the grace that he shows in telling you my story is a one

in a lifetime story and you have insulted both me and my late father when as a father you come out on the court as the guy's father to the guy who just beat me and is standing on a table because my team just choked away a game away the way the basketball has never seen possibly ending my career and my relationship with the city and Milwaukee that is as strong as the one that Luca has in Dallas and in that moment of rage this is how that man calms himself down and speaks on behalf of his family his teammates champions everywhere and a league. It is the last time I'm going to say it. I won't talk a lot because the game doesn't really matter.

One thing I'll say is that I believe like being humble in victory that's how I am. Now there can be a lot of people out there that are like no when you when you win the game, talk shit and you know, it's a green light for you to be disrespectful towards somebody else. I disagree. I've won the championship, they haven't. Okay? And that doesn't say anything.

I'm not trying to minimize their effort. But I remember when I won, my mom, my mom that she's she's never missed the games from February 11th or 13 when she came in Milwaukee against the Knicks, she never missed the game. When we won the championship, I remember my mom, she was scared to cross. She was like, am I allowed to come and hug my son? I see, except now my brother does media for this year, he wants to come back and play. But except the Nass, you've never seen my family. Of course, I see this is not something that we do, we don't.

I try to keep my family away from the game. But losing the game, emotions run high, having a fan, which at the moment I thought he was a fan, but then I realized he was Tyrese's son, which I love Tyrese. I think he's a great competitor. He was his dad, sorry. Coming in the floor and showing me his son, towel with his face, this is what we do,

this is what we effing do, this the eff we do. This, I feel like that's very, very disrespectful. You know, my dad, my dad, if you guys go and ask and learn, my dad's not with us no more. My dad used to come in the family room and he was the most respectful person ever. You know, when you come from nothing and you work your whole life to sell stuff in the street and your whole life you'll be scared of the police of deporting you and

sending you back to your country. You have to protect your kids with all means you create this mentality of being humble your whole life to not kind of disrespect anybody, not make the tension high, the emotions high so anybody can, you know, snitch on you, say something bad about you. So when he came here, I remember I was like that, why, why are you so humble? Why are you going to the family room? You don't even say a word. You sit in the back. Why, why, why are you like that. Why are you so humble? Why are you going to the family room? You don't even say what you sit in the back

Why why why you like that? Don't worry. Don't worry about it. Don't worry. That's how I grew up That's what I had that out. So when I see other dad, which don't disrespect maybe when if my son play basketball I might be in the court I might be the one on the court and like 20 years later you can play this interview and say Janice you you're contradicting yourself. But we'll see in 20 years, but I'm talking about right now how I feel. You know, having somebody that which I'm happy for him, I'm happy for his son, and I'm happy that he's happy for his son.

That's how you're supposed to feel. But coming to me and disrespecting me and cursing at me, I think is totally unacceptable. Totally unacceptable, okay? And I'm not the guy that points fingers because in my neighborhood, snitches get stitches. So I don't wanna say something for him to say to get fined or anything. But it's not respectful, I talk with him at the end. And I think we're in a good place.

Pablo, I'm floored by the amount of understanding and compassion that he showed given what his rage had to be in that circumstance and how he also managed around the understanding and compassion to give you his very strong opinion. It's hard to do all of those things together without emotion, to be that stoic about being very strongly opinionated on that was disrespectful and doing it with such compassion that he convinced me

it was disrespectful by the time he was done. Yeah, I think he could have led with simply, I didn't know who this guy was. I thought he was a random guy who'd gone to the court and that's why I reacted the way I did. Instead, he gives us, you know, he writes, he writes perhaps a state award winning column about why his perspective is the way it is.

I mean, really, like, Yanis has gotten so good at media management, and I say that in part cynically because he kind of knows what he's doing at this point. He's savvy about it in his second, third language. But also, like, yeah, hard to hard to disagree. I mean, look, you don't have to invoke the name of T. Morant, Jaws dad, to know that there is a thing where NBA dads are living vicariously on the court through their sons, even if

it is in moments of celebration that, of course, every human would want to unleash every emotion they have. But the thing about like doing this post-game, doing this when you're actually still like pretty, not just latently, but obviously still very irritated, it's just, I would say it's a master class in public relations with a really good column inside of it. But Yanis has been showing us, good column inside of it. But Yanis has been showing us, excuse me, that this is who he is for a while now. It's not that serious.

He has the perspective. I mean, remember the Malik Beasley dancing in front of him? To him, that was just good fun. I mean, remember when he said, the first round loss isn't a failure, is everything. If you don't get a promotion every year, is that a failure? He's been showing you, I have the proper perspective, I'm not taking this that seriously.

So when somebody comes to him, even in that most heated of a moment, he is himself, he is not overheated, he is not going to fight this person because he's looking down at a fan, or in his mind, thinking, wow, this person is going over the top, let me teach him. He's been showing us who he is this whole time.

The part that is interesting to me about it, though, Pablo, is I was talking about how hard winning is earlier, how hard it is to be a champion, that LeBron has failed a lot more than he's won the way that we do the measurements right now. He's only won four. And Steph, Stu Gotz came in here today saying Steph's had a better career than LeBron But it's been two guys fighting for the titles

Kawhi stepped in there and won three of them and Kevin Durant had to win a couple that Stugats will not give him because Kevin Durant had to go to the Warriors to do it and the one that Yanis won He only won by a toenail over kevin durant so you tell me uh... pablo uh... the legacy of yannis as we go on face of the league stuff people are real interested to make anthony edwards the face of the league yannis is going to have to go somewhere else to be the face of the league like you want all the stuff that he does but you also need that person to be winning

the championships yeah i think the context for yannis though is that he did it in the age of every person you just mentioned. Like when he wins a title in Milwaukee with, you know, Chris Middleton and Drew Holliday, and Drew Holliday weirdly has become, in retrospect, like the second most valuable player on that team, which is a lot about who Giannis had on that team with him. I think that's the testament, it's the context, that he did it in the era of all of those guys at the most talent-rich, talent-saturated era,

you could argue, in the history of the NBA. So one title from Janis in Milwaukee at that time, I feel like that, again, we should be grading on a curve relative to what is the era he played in. We all agree he needs a second title, right? Like that goes without saying. He needs to have a second title. But how about this, okay?

Don't tell my family how to celebrate my son doing something remarkable. How's that sound? Your family wants to celebrate their way. My family wants to celebrate their way. Don't criticize my family when we beat you. This is what Tony was saying yesterday. He said that John Halliburton stood on business

well this is also i mean tony uh... stugats as your ally here stugats is the guy who patrols lacrosse sidelines with a lacrosse stick yeah like i feel like he's the worst possible messenger for this uh... two things number one stugats in the next edition of your personal record book you need to give janis a second championship just for that class he displayed. I will not. I don't agree with Giannis.

No, I get it. Listen, I get that he's being Giannis, okay? I get it. But here's what I am telling you. You celebrate how you want to celebrate. Your family has their story. Halliburton's family has his story, and they celebrate how they want to celebrate. I will not give Yannis another ring. I will not. I will not give him a second ring. Go earn that ring. Controversy. Tony, why are you making faces as the argument

maker on behalf of John Halliburton stood on business? Again, he stood on business. This was prior to the whole Yannis thing and obviously the immigrant family and like the humbleness and all the great syrupy things that happened there. All I'm saying in Stugatsa's mind were let my family celebrate the way my family wants to celebrate. The problem is when that family is celebrating basically on top of the grave of Janasata Dukupo, that's where I have the idea. Not the only problem. The problem that that family is also celebrating in a way that seems divided because Halliburton after the game also handled this well by saying pops What are we doing?

He's got to say that though right? I think there are plenty of people who are going family first there and saying I don't care if my father disrespects you I'm not sure John Morant isn't doing finger guns at Yanis right next to his father and rolling a grenade at him. I feel like we do a thing in sports where we assume, and by the way this is now connecting to one of the top five items or the OLI excuse me of the list that Greg brought in, we assume that someone because they're either the partner of someone or a family member of someone is acting with the authority of the someone. Like I was just watching in the Instagram comments today Steve Belichick, Bill's son, his wife,

Steve's wife get in the comments arguing with Nikki Glaser against the way that Jordan Hudson was conducting herself in that CBS interview, meaning the Belichick camp is now divided. Meaning that when it comes to how your dad is acting on bidness on the court side, like who, why would we ever assume, what about our history of family members in general in humanity has ever led us to assume, oh, they're doing that because he feels the exact same way as the person who's actually the star of the show here. Tony, I'm with you on the face you made. I believe you are right when your face crinkles up in a disgust

when either Pablo or I say bidness. Yeah, if it's acting on bidness too, I don't like that. Stop doing it. Yeah, I don't like that one. It felt, it felt, it felt bad coming out. It felt bad. The problem is you gotta do it quick and with confidence, Pablo, act on bidness.

Boom, stand on bidness, boom. It felt good. He got permission from me, I shouldn't have done it either. I did it for effect, extra enunciated. That was third degree Bidness that I was quoting. It's a capital D there, a hard D I don't like. Yes, we will get to, put it on the poll. Hey, yo.

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Don LeBattard. Our Panther group chat, we're confident against the lightning. This is a different team. You're a Panther group chat though. No, I think, no, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever. And I think there's a different energy where the Panthers,

they want the lightning. Stugats. I want t-shirts made for this Panther run, what could be this Panther run. Our Panther group chat, we're not afraid of the lightning. That's a tagline for World Rawr 3. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats! I want to ask you about the Lakers last night and that Belichick story. I do want to get your thoughts on what is most interesting from that Belichick story as well.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I have been looking into this Belichick thing for a future episode of the show. We kind of broke this story on PTFO just for the record to toot our own state award winning podcast. What I had heard originally, by the way, which has now been just verified across the board is that when it comes to how Bill operates, Jordan is the one actually operating him. And when it comes to the Super Bowl commercial,

which you may or may not remember, remember when Belichick showed up wearing a Dunkin' Donuts thing with Affleck and... Yeah, and she's in it. She's in it with Affleck and she was in a commercial for the Super Bowl in a way that was really strange. Unmentioned that she was in it and she's just in it. Yes, and that should have been a giant warning sign that, wait a minute, why is this then

obscure girlfriend of Bill Belichick in the biggest Super Bowl commercial of certainly his life But also one of the biggest commercials in America and it turned out that what I learned what I found out was that When you had to negotiate with Bill Belichick and this is like the Damon and Affleck camp Okay, this is like the Hollywood a list camp that makes these commercials They had to negotiate with Jordan They had to negotiate with Jordan. She was acting as his representative back then and insinuated herself into the commercial and into every aspect of his life. And this has been a pattern that's occurred across the board.

And so when I mention that Steve Belichick, remember the Belichick son with the tongue? You know, he was the guy who was wagging his tongue all the time. That's Steve. The unusual looking coach on the sidelines that became famous for nepotism. Yes. So, he's now at Carolina as well. But his wife, when I say that his wife is now going at Jordan, I call her Jordan because it's J-O-R-D-O-N, but when she's going after Jordan because she's blowing up the CBS interview and Nikki Glazer is defending Jordan, what Steve Belichick's wife is saying is that's not professional.

In public she's saying this. So the question now, Dan, is the people who care and love about Bill Belichick, right, they are clearly somewhat worried about the way this story has gone, which is beyond, wow, this go-getter is really getting a lot. It's, is he okay? That would be the larger concern that people are articulating to me. Pablo, I know you do great work on PTFO. I'm going to catch one of those episodes one day, I promise. But I have, I have a theory for you. If you want to, if we want to do something together, collaboration, me and you, I can be on the episode. I have a theory that Bill Belichick has been hypnotized

Unsubstantiated on the pole. Do you believe Tony's theory that Bill Belichick has been hypnotized? I would say Pablo that I've only seen one other instance of this in my career anything that felt like this Remotely close to it and it's Sacramento, Doug Christie, had a relationship in public that they were very proud about the fact. And this was always interesting to me because men obviously don't view this the way that a woman might admire something like this. Doug Christie was publicly genuflecting on, yes I follow my wife everywhere, I'm good with that, it doesn't make me less of a man to be someone who simply follows

my wife. And you know someone else who does that now? Dwayne Wade does that now. Where there's no shame in that, but the age difference complicates this one. Well Doug Christie, I mean I was just thinking about this Dan, when I saw that he was announced as the King's new head coach, because Doug Christie, for those who don't remember, Tony, among all the people who acted and stood upon their bidness, he is up there, right? This was unapologetic. This was something that he was very proud of. The Belichick difference, though, Dan, even beyond all of this, the difference is that there is no character

who has been acting more unlike himself in the history of sports, you could argue, than Bill Belichick now versus Bill Belichick pre-Jordan. Like, that's the thing that everybody's like, whoa, it's not merely that man Bill's a wife guy, it's that Bill had not only never been a wife guy, he is now doing things that admittedly now that i say it out loud kinda feels like even hypnotized

that's right it's a good theory by tony i like it uh... do you have a theory for the me on this cbs sunday morning is a magical show i believe the broadcaster that gotcha jordan and bella check was overly cheesy in a number of different broadcaster eways i want to ask you as somebody who's now on MSNBC, a professional broadcaster on ESPN, if any human beings talk the way this broadcaster does when he's doing the affect of CBS Sunday Morning Television. You're probably thinking the same thing I was when I sat down with Bill Belichick. The now 73-year-old former NFL coach wasn't interested in gloating about his many achievements.

Football is everything for Belichick. Does anyone talk like that? It's hard for me to say that no one talks like that when that is Mike Ryan's impression of how I talk. That would be a thing I feel like I'm stepping into as a matter of the trap that you've laid out for me. Do you hear the question mark in this journalist that in this saying that would express to you that the particular journalist we're talking about is not objective?

The other change for Belichick is 24-year-old Jordan Hudson, his creative muse. Again, I'm gonna play that last part for you and ask you if there's a question mark between the creative and the muse. His creative muse. That, that oo in muse was a lot like the D I put in business. Yeah, that. He's conspicuous and very deliberate. That oo in muse was a lot like the D I put in bidness.

It was conspicuous and very deliberate. His creative muse. There's some sass in there. Like he's really judging it for America. His creative muse. You can't see it, but he's clearly doing scare quotes. His creative muse. Like that is the verbal expression of scare quotes. He's also wagging a condescending chin at them.

His creative muse. Perhaps a cocked eyebrow as well. Yeah, all those things are happening. His creative muse. Doug Christie is coaching the kings. Let's play for Pablo the sound of Stugat's being as right as he has ever been on anything. This is a nothing trade. It's big names. I understand why it's news. It's a nothing trade. The Lakers are not winning an NBA title anytime soon. The Mavericks are not winning an NBA

title anytime soon. In fact, I would tell you the bigger trade made yesterday in the NBA was the one that got the Spurs, the Aaron Fox. You want to know why? That team might win all the championship suit. This is not a trade that lands you Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. This is not getting Moses Malone if you're Dr. J in the Sixers, the missing piece, and then they went foe foe foe foe. This is not that. This is a trade to get with two middling teams and two superstars who barely play. Luca played a ton of games last year. It does feel even despite that it does feel like it's Elon Musk number one that take number two on the Things 2 Gods has been most ahead of America on. I think

about the Elon take all of the time. Do you really? You were ahead of everybody on that one. You were! Izzy, have you read or heard anything interesting on Luca and LeBron? In retrospect it's fairly easy to say when it comes to usage rate it needs to not be the oldest player in the league anymore. You got to kind of hand the team over to Luca for real. You gotta kinda hand the team over to Luka for real. You don't need both of them at the same time, especially if Luka's not gonna be playing any defense at all.

And what has Luka ever needed? Another wing to handle the ball all the time? No, no, he needs the opposite of that. He needs three Jackson Hayes, who they didn't play him at all. It's gonna be very interesting what they do with this personnel here, because again, you're gonna look at every season that

ends for Luka Doncic with him either holding his back or him in some sort of you know Agony because he had to play defense for a long time and Nico Harrison and the Mavs are gonna feel like they won and I don't know what's going to fix that for next year personnel wise the Lakers aren't in great position to add well Pablo Can you please look this up for me guys uh... give me all the history where minnesota wins a game or anybody wins a game shooting from three the way minnesota did like luca and lebron can't lose to a minnesota team shooting like that at home to have their season extinguish that's a that's a terrible game shooting for they were under fifteen percent from three think about that i

read think about that yes now it's the inversion of everything we've learned obviously the celtics how they win titles it's you they do it by being the opposite of what the timberwolves were but i think when is he is alluding to uh... jackson haze i mean that's the story here to me like it's the trade that didn't go through that almost went through in the shadow of the lucca trade was mark williams right and i know that trade fell apart because in some and i need to find out Like it's the trade that didn't go through that almost went through in the shadow of the Luca trade It was Mark Williams Right, and I know that trade fell apart because in some and I need to find out more about this

But in terms of like the buyer's remorse from the Lakers in terms of the physical that was failed allegedly But they needed a big man They got basically Luca for so little that they thought let's overpay for Mark Williams And then in light of day the morning after they're like, let's actually not give all of this for Mark Williams, and then in the light of day, the morning after, they're like, let's actually not give all of this for Mark Williams. But Mark Williams, a healthy Mark Williams, is exactly who the Lakers needed this entire series. Can you guys give me what your take was on Kerr sitting his starters in the second half yesterday,

just taking a take? Oh, he's playing for game six at home, Dan, I mean. It was potentially, it was, for a couple of minutes there, the greatest coaching move of all time Because he would he got very close to having his scrubs Not just win a game on the road close out a series He was that close to watching them do it and I would have wondered at that point What he gave to the basketball gods because he has gotten all these gifts in return.

Steph Curry winning the 22 championship, all these things that happened to him. But that was absolute magic, even if they didn't win. The amount of doubt that was placed into those starters who had to come back into the game and still fight off Spencer. I don't even know if it's Pat or Cam, one of the Spensers. It was great by Steve Kerr.

Dan, I got the worst playoff winning games with the worst three point shooting percentages. So 13 teams are tied for the lowest three point percentage in a win in a playoff game at 0%. So they made zero threes. Zero threes, okay? The first three are the Miami Heat, the Memphis Grizzlies and the Denver Nuggets.

The Heat, it was a game in May, I wanna say, first or second round against the Pacers where they won 95-86. So all 95 points the hard way. I like it. Pablo, your thoughts on losing to Minnesota that way. Your thoughts on the Lakers' future. What was it that Winhorse,

did Winhorse have some commentary that said that LeBron's frustrated with the Lakers? Did Wintors? They got him, Luca. I know. It's not his team anymore, Dan. We just talked about building around Luca, not around LeBron.

We're talking about how Luca is going to fit in, I'm sorry, how LeBron is going to fit in with Luca, and if he doesn't, how are they gonna make up for that? This isn't his team anymore, and he's gotta be frustrated by it. You saw it during this during this first round series. Jeff Teague talked about it. LeBron didn't seem serious the entire series. When have you seen him laughing with opponents during a playoff series? When have you seen him taking like fade away threes in big moments? This isn't his team anymore. He knows it.

He's just you know sort of finding a way to finish off his career and maybe championships aren't as important as they were before. Pablo? Oh look, the thing that has most surprised me is that I've gone from immediately in the aftermath of the Luka trade being like, of course this was a clutch slash LeBron move, right? Anthony Davis was a clutch client,

LeBron's guy, Rich Paul, of course, LeBron's agent, AD's agent, they knew this was happening. LeBron had been drafting Luke in these All-Star games the whole time. I was like, how did LeBron's agent, AD's agent, they knew this was happening. LeBron had been drafting Luka in these All-Star games the whole time. I was like, how did LeBron possibly get surprised by this? Clearly LeBron was orchestrating this team and operating it according to his own whims. And look, I defer on this level because it was shocking when I first heard it, but Brian, and I've talked to Brian about this, Brian does not believe actually. And this is something that, again, startling that this is LeBron getting Luca.

This is LeBron actually being surprised. And what that says to Izzy's point about this not being his team anymore and him seeing the phasing out of his era in favor of the next one. That's the thing that casts a shadow over all of next year. As by the way, Dan, the thought experiment that no one's done that I am endlessly interested in is the production and programming of LeBron James' Farewell Tour. If you thought that

the Kobe Bryant Tour was all consuming, if you thought that the Derek Jeter rocking chair thing, you know, bats comprising a rocking chair thing, like everybody gives him gifts like he's an Egyptian Pharaoh. Imagine all of that but LeBron producing it himself to the expense and the detriment and the exclusion of any other story in the NBA in an entire 82 game run. That to me is what's coming. It may not be this coming season but it might as well be and if that's the case we are in for a news cycle that is truly unlike anything else we've seen before. Did he get that for Thought Experiment, or did he get it for the Egyptian Pharaoh?

Just all of it. Both. Just all? Was it talking like a broadcaster? Was it just talking, a broadcaster-y cheese? Is that it? Here's the thing? Because he hits you with a, here's the thing. Like I said, all of it. I can't even tell when I hear the thing anymore. So it's a lifetime achievement?

Like Greg Cody. Piano Tinkle. Congrats. Okay, yes, okay. Very good. Egyptian pharaoh had me, man. That was a great reference. Are there any other kinds of pharaohs?

I don't know, is that redundant? Phil Pharaoh. That's a good. That weather terror. Pharaoh falls in the forest. I got scared the hell out of you. I mean, Jesus Christ. Buying everything in public. That's a good weather Yeah buying everything in public

Put put it on the pole at Leviton show are there other kinds of Pharaohs other than the Egyptian good question I don't get question or put also put up on the pole is Egyptian Pharaoh redundant because I Don't know. I I don't know if there are other kinds of Pharaohs. I don't know I don't have any Pharaoh history did Greg want to give them Pharaoh faucet again. I don't know. I don't know if there are other kinds of pharaohs. I don't know, I don't have any pharaoh history. Did Greg wanna give them pharaoh faucet again? I don't think everybody heard. Well, you know, I had to explain that she was a former actress. I don't know how, you know, I'm aging myself.

I don't know if pharaoh faucet is well known anymore, but pharaoh faucet was her sister. Who thinks they're gonna have the best old clothes? Zaslow was a wild disappointment yesterday. Zaslow bringing in clothes only from 2016. I thought for sure he had stuff from the 90s. I know that Greg Cody, before his son bought him an expensive bag, was walking around with a Barcelona bag from the 1992 Olympics. And so he's got a lot of old stuff. Who do you guys think is going to win on old

stuff summoned from the closets? I think Chris Cody's gonna win. I have one that I feel amazing about, another that is just old, but I don't feel it's not gonna be too funny, and then I have one that my wife just hates. It's not that old. Every time I wear it, my wife is like,

never wear that again. All right, let's do this, because I want all of you to hold up your third place finishers first. We're gonna go three shirts. I have OLI Dan. Yeah I got seven. So you're gonna immediately go. Narrow it down maybe. Pick the best three. I've got accessories though too. Okay so no one wants to do it the way that would be easy. Yeah I got some accessories too. I want to count the accessories. We need to get through the OLI's and then we can all start with our three. Well we've got two minutes and Zaslow was really disappointing with this.

So I wanted to limit Zaslow to one. He brought three. All of them were bad. Now I'm worried that all, I don't have confidence in this given what Zaslow did with it. I know Zaslow's wife and I'm telling you, she is the type of person who takes all the old stuff, she throws it in the garbage and she buys him new stuff constantly. That is correct. I feel like we lead with my dad

He's gonna be strong here. I think all right. Let's see the first of what he's got. This is his weakest This is his weakest entry. What do you have here? What do you describe it for? I think that's a fourth of July shirt. Yes millionth animal annual independent stay beach bash 2001 Wow Oh one a 25 year old opening with annual independent and all day beach bash two thousand and one while all one eight twenty five-year-old winning with sure that's true that's wrong police she might not

his own yes statement the center of the lightning what is it yet he would not have been stronger there if he had dropped his pants and mooned all of you

on I've Got Better Than You Do. Should I get to number two? No, no, no, you're showing off at this point. We need to get to Tony's OLA. Well Pablo's only here for a few more minutes, so maybe we should go to him. Pablo, what do you have in your excessive bag of accessories that doesn't suggest

that this segment was prepared at all? I got an actual bag. It's from the Mayweather Pacquiao Press Tour, the dream match. It was 08 though. So you know, I got that. That's a good one. Solid. Not bad.

It's not bad. Eight years better than Wazlow. Eight years better. I mean, Wazlow was really disappointing. That was a real, that was just an embarrassing fart by Waslow. What else do you have there, Pablo? Just show us the rest of what you've got

because we're running out of time with you. I just found a PTI hat, but the old part of it is that it's autographed by Tony Kornheiser for some reason. I want that so bad. He gave me a hat and signed it And I don't know why but I have it so there's that Would you be willing to auction that off to the audience and just get another one?

Yeah, I would do that. I also would auction off my authentic Yao Ming bobblehead which I have on my desk for some reason So think about what when was he a rookie that was like oh three right like oh two oh three. That's pretty good It's pretty good. Well. I mean it's not two thousand. Oh wow look one of five thousand. I just noticed this I never looked underneath there That out You think five thousand is I have I have a polo shirt from the time my late uncle ran for board member of an obscure municipal organization. All right, that'll do it.

That's great. Did he win? That's so good. Did he win? It's a good one. He did not. Uncle Bobby defeated at the polls. RIP.

Tito Bob, love you forever, even though you lost your seat at board member, whatever that means.