The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Mother Dorothy

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

We have some breaking NFL news including two of the worst owners in the league, David Tepper and Jim Irsay, and also Irsay's "Black Mother, Dorothy." Then, Saturdays football was way better than Sunda...ys, Stugotz has some Justin Herbert takes, and one college football coach was trampled while another rode out of the tunnel on an ATV...one of those coaches kept his job. Plus, Tim Boyle is soooooooooooo much better than Zach Wilson, Mike McDaniel steals your girl, and Tua loves Secret Santa. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants, just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries
Starting point is 00:00:33 that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. We have breaking NFL news right now, Stugots. Two bits of breaking NFL news, one of them bigger than the other.
Starting point is 00:00:51 The least interesting, the least news worthy of the two things is that Frank Reich has been fired in Carolina. Wow. I was watching part of that Carolina game and feeling bad about my general life decisions. And Bryce Young looks more like a high school quarterback physically than almost anyone I've seen play the position where he looks so much smaller than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:01:16 And when you're bad at offense, it really stands out how small you are. But that's the second most interesting piece of breaking NFL news. The first is that Will Levis is apologized on Twitter. He writes, I think I used capitulate instead of matriculate in the presser today. It's been killing me. I apologize to all my former English teachers. My guy, we've been back channeling. You know, we used capitulation. No, those are two very different phrases that you matriculate down the field.
Starting point is 00:01:47 You don't capitulate down the field unless, of course, you're Carolina. You can't fire your head coach after he loses to Damirino, Tony. If you squint. Tepper seems to be an awful owner that Frank Wright, there was a fascinating press conference, one of those meaningless midweek ones where Frank Reich gave insight and did not look pleased and had to fight through his fake smile about detailing weekly meetings he has with David Tepper. Where David Tepper gives his opinions about how things are going. I remember having a conversation about this with Joe Philbin.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I think people don't have any earthly idea how metal some of these rich people are because it's their toy and all of that stuff gets kept secret. It never leaks because all of the people who have the information are afraid of being fired by the people with the power. I think people would be alarmed if they found out what these football owners are like as billionaires who are always used to getting their way and not used to just telling everybody Yeah, sure just embarrass me publicly with my toy. I won't interfere at all I won't get involved with any of your decision-making. I'll just trust your expertise. I'm not saying you're wrong
Starting point is 00:02:58 But they would be shocked by this by the actions of billionaires who want to put Baltimore's report it. If it was reported, if it was reported, yes, it'd be in the news every single day we'd be talking about how could that guy be doing this? If people knew how bad this stuff actually was, because you're talking about the most entitled, you're talking about the most used to getting what they want, you're talking about the most spoiled people surrounded by handlers who are doing so many things for them and have been doing so many things for them for decades. They're very used to it and they become jimmer say where stugots when some of this stuff gets out in the public and you see just a small light on some of the crazy you look at it
Starting point is 00:03:43 and you're like what is the matter with this person? Jim Urse can't keep this stuff quiet because reportedly there are drugs in the car and there's cash in the car, but first take was talking about this the other day. And Jim Urse couldn't keep quiet. Jim Urse couldn't keep this to himself. The other owners look at Jim Urse
Starting point is 00:04:02 and even by their standards, he's a little bit unhinged. So let's put up the tweet here. We'll put them up in a second, but I do wanna talk a little bit about the breaking news in Carolina because Tepper hasn't been there long and the things that have hamstrung that franchise over the last few years have been Tepper calls. The trade for Bryce Young was a Tepper call.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Paying Matt Rule, the money that they paid Matt Rule and re-adjusting and establishing a new high watermark for coaching salaries was a a temper call. Paying Matt Rule, the money that they paid Matt Rule and readjusting and establishing a new high watermark for coaching salaries, was a temper call. None of this stuff is working out. Frank Reich went back to play calling duties. It seems as though there's a real medicine owner here. And then in years previous has worked without Davis and then it stopped working. In years previous it worked with Jerry Jones and then it stopped working.
Starting point is 00:04:44 It's never worked with David Tepper and the sample size is growing. They're screwed if Bryce Young doesn't figure it out. And Frank Reich has a pretty proud track record of making it work with quarterbacks. You don't have what now is the number one draft that connects you in the greatest quarterback class in several years.
Starting point is 00:05:03 You don't have a shot at Caleb Williams. You are stuck with Bryce Young, who looks like a high school footballer compared to some of the bodies that are out there on the field. There is no fix for a medicine owner that just can't get it right. You're stuck with it. Why not take another quarterback? You can't. You don't have your first round wrapping.
Starting point is 00:05:21 They're there. Oh, the bears have their pick. That's right. The bears have two of the top four picks in the NFL. What happened? Were you not letting me? You were just firing up the take. You were looking right at me.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I don't know if you said that. You should roll the tape. No, I definitely said it twice. I apologize to my audience. In case the audience was confused. Yeah, exactly. My bad. I mean, why does he think matriculate was the right word?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Because that just means throwing enroll in a university. Well, I heard this multiple times yesterday and you guys know what the announcer is talking about. Every time they say this, extracurricular activity. Oh, I love that. What do you think they mean by that? Depends on what, you know, what's going on? Depends what's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I love some extracurriculars. Is there a pile? Is there, you know, is there a fumble pile? What's happening in that fumble pile? I mean, there are unnecessary things happening in that fumble pile. I don't understand when this became the go-to cliche. I think of extracurricular activities
Starting point is 00:06:14 as you're in a youth group after class. I don't think of it as guys shoving each other. It's not even dodgeball. I think of it as sort of i'm in in debate i'm i've got an extra curricular activity after school i've got a debate club that i'm in matriculate is a great word and so is moxie but they're almost exclusively used on the gridiron is a great words to describe things that you see in every day like i know way
Starting point is 00:06:39 to hear them during football but i don't think i think matriculate is something i only associate with school and because Hank Stramm said it a million years ago talking about what a football team does on a drive. It is now also associated with football, but matriculated school. Put it on the pole, please. At Leibhurt Show. I thought that it's just you going down the field. That brother, I think I'm right here.
Starting point is 00:07:02 What do you mean in roll? There is only one me. You have a nice chunky 12-play drive at four and a half yards per clip. That's how you matriculate. You're saying you had never heard the other usage of matriculate. Not even the other.
Starting point is 00:07:18 There's dictionaries with definitions for words. That's what words mean. Matriculate means to go down. This isn't a duck. I can't just say that my duck. No, matriculate means to go down the field four and a half yards at a time. That's what that means. It's a big third down to.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Oh, you gotta have a few of those conversions. Make a fourth down too. I feel like it. And that would be a point in these days. Yeah. And like three, four yards out from Adam Thielin. That's how you matriculate. He sucked yesterday. Who Adam Thielin? Dude's how you matriculate. He sucked yesterday. Who Adam Thielin?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Dude, you can't judge anything on that offense with the price of zero points of fantasy. He's actually had a good season feeling. Yeah, he's considered all things considered. Yeah, I said yesterday. Great season. He's the only Carolina Panthers doing anything. Let's get to the earth's a tweets here, though,
Starting point is 00:08:02 just to gots because this is an NFL owner. I will say to the audience again, if the behavior of NFL owners or sports owners, if all of it got out, you would be appalled at how it is these people behave. So first take is doing a segment on Jim Ursa. And now at this point, anytime Ursa's name is mentioned as the cold toner the word association is dollars in the car cash in the car and pills in the car one of the things he said in his I don't know diet tribe on Twitter is he usually has a lot more cash than that on him that's a low amount that 29 thousand dollars is low amount and this is, if I were a PR agent,
Starting point is 00:08:46 I would have told them to do this. He's like, I'm always giving my money to people who are on-hounds than people who need it. I've always got a lot of cash on me, and I'm just handing it out. It's a happy payment. So he says, first take, first take, you're gonna get your ass sued
Starting point is 00:08:58 because there was no alcohol, no illegal drugs. $29,000 is low for me to be carrying in two thousand fourteen arrests i give away two thousand to ten thousand dollars to the homeless and needed on the street all the time and passing it on will make the world better heart emoji solid grammar uh... let's see the other tweets though because uh... i had on first take the woman who proceeded steven a how dare you pretend to know me? I don't know your name and I don't care to angry face emoji.
Starting point is 00:09:28 If my black mother Dorothy was still alive, you'd be in some big hot water, hot in water, capitalized. exclamation point. You are mean and ugly. Up upside down smiley face emoji. You're used incorrectly, a nothing burger. Nothing burger is capitalized. And what is that emoji?
Starting point is 00:09:55 What is that emoji? As a slightly disappointed emoji. It's you are. Yes, it's you are a nothing burger. Maybe you ran out of characters Gotta do what you gotta do you're right What are the other owners thinking when Jim or say he says that and does that? Are they like go these emojis mean go Jim go get them?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Black mother what does that mean? I mean, I think it means what he's saying it means. I don't know what it means though. Is black mother was a disciplinarian? It's what it means. She'd be in hot water. Again, the mismanaged cult cults have as many wins as the built. They're a playoff team today.
Starting point is 00:10:42 The bills have a 15% chance of making the playoffs the cults are firmly in the playoff. I just Googled Jim Marseilles mother and her name is not Dorothy. Really? Harriet Urse. Oh, yeah. He is from Hungarian Jewish descent. Okay. That really just stops us in our tracks.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Well, there's a third tweet there. My grandparents came across Ellis Island with just the shirt on their back penniless and escaping Jewish concentration camps. I grew up in a horrible home where both my brother and sister died in a car crash in 1971. That is a crying emoji. I worked for my living, bought 30% of the Colts bank loan
Starting point is 00:11:24 and now a football emoji. Now, I did find where Jimmer say has provided more context in the past. Apparently, he was asked some follow-ups. And he tweeted about that. Yeah, Dorothy Blutsaw was his black mom. I guess he has a black mom and a white mom, which is where the context is, blacking from that first week that you read. That's where this two moms. It says she carried me in the house in Lincolnwood, Illinois on 1959, June.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I swear this is how it's written. And raised me in the light of Christ, I would be dead if not for her unconditional love. She showed me that Jesus was my savior. I owe her everything. So when he said my black mother Dorothy, that was just the designation he applied to differentiate between the mothers and Harriet. I mean, do we know if she's black? We do know that. Dorothy, I'm going to take him first word there. Harriet is definitely not. Don't live a tart. It's been a lovely cruise. Oh, man, that's my out out trope, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, What's the redundancy there? You know, I mean, we're gonna put on a public display.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah, naturally. Stugats! What do you do with the ashes? Um, you're going to a lovely cruise. Exactly, maybe we'll throw them over my wife or throw them overboard. I would assume. I was sneaking with her new husband. This is the Daléba Tharshow with a Stugats!
Starting point is 00:13:04 Every week at about this time of years to guys I come in here and talk about the magic of football. They give you that Bill's Eagles game and it is camouflage for what was a sewage system of a one o'clock hour. Just terrible football all over the place. Saturday was better than Sunday this week. So I do want to talk about some of the Saturday games because the NFL has a way of giving you that Bill's Eagles game. And it just washes everything away, Stugans. That one o'clock hour was terrible. Like it was just a bunch of teams playing. and it felt like all of the games were giants patriots. Because it was so bad, Dan, I watched an entire football game
Starting point is 00:13:51 because I had no interest in any of the other games, not giants, patriots, not Colts and Buccaneers, even though the Colts are a playoff team. I watched Jaguars Texans and I watched it. I know we lost, but I watched CJ Straub. The patience, the confidence, the mobility, the ability to pick up blitzes. Dan, that kid is so good. Dare I say great. You're late. You're late to this party.
Starting point is 00:14:17 People have been doing this for a month. I know I am, but because I watched an entire game, I got to see every single play. The red zone is kind of ruined football Because they go to like highlights you see the best of these guys, right? You see the best adjusted herbert. You see the best of Joe Barrow You don't see some of the mistakes they make because they don't highlight those mistakes when you watch an entire football game You're able to see that Justin Herbert. He's not that mobile and he doesn't pick up blitzes He does not pick them up as quickly as CJ Stroud.
Starting point is 00:14:46 In fact, I'm not certain anyone picks him up as quickly as CJ Stroud. I know they lost in, but he's great and they're going to be great for the next 15 years. Three weeks ago, Justin Herbert had the best game against the blitz that any quarterback has ever had because that was the Ravens defense last night that did that. Herbert hasn't looked like that all season. Well, do it every week. Outside of Jags Texans, I don't know if you could have handpicked five worst games than this.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But a lot of parts. I'm just looking at them, like there's not a good, like Mike just said, Colts Bucks wasn't 10. I'm just like, if that's the next best one, woof. It's not only a lot of bad football. It's a lot of bad football with a lot of teams that can't keep players healthy. So when he mentioned burrow, God, this was funny yesterday.
Starting point is 00:15:31 The announcers were trying so hard to got so hard to teach me to care about Browning. Tell the story. And one of the things that they did, this happened twice, right? He's like, I don't know who the announcers were on that game but it was funny because this happened in sequence just like I'm telling you the announcers were saying that browning and I laughed at my television when they
Starting point is 00:15:57 said this had the same vibe as Joe burrow and they kept just armuals. Cape arguing kept arguing on behalf of his vibe, his vibe. And then he rolls to us, left, holds on to the ball too long and gets sat. Then they come back and try to convince me that Browning has unique arm angles. And he's got all the arm angles, all the arm angles, tackled, next play interception. The mystery of Jake Brody. They put up 10 points. So I'm not going to talk about Sunday. I'm going to talk about Saturday.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm not going to talk about the football of Saturday first, even though I'm going to get to that Michigan Ohio State game and the Auburn Alabama game. The game. Which one? Which one? Which one? The first one. Okay. Because Auburn, Alabama felt pretty big
Starting point is 00:16:51 at the end of that one. Massive. And I would kind of like to. Sixth win Auburn team. I'd like to watch Alabama against Michigan though because I don't totally trust Michigan. But I don't want to talk about the football just yet. I want to talk about a couple of the entrances. I want to start with Oklahoma. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Still got to explain to me what has happened here when they're coming out of the tunnel and the fire extinguishers are going off and Brent Vennibles gets it seems like he gets run over by his first player because it feels like he's the first one to fall coming out of the tunnel. And the player notices, what's he holding there? Is it a GoPro? Oh, it's a sledgehammer. Where is that a GoPro? I think that's a GoPro. That was a GoPro. Yeah. So that guy, so there is video somewhere. Somebody, one of the players there has to stop and be like, stop! So that guy, so there is video somewhere.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Somebody, one of the players there has to stop and be like, stop! Well, they look back, but you can't stop the running onto the field. You're just gonna have to persevere. It does. The trickle effect is great. That is great. We have another angle.
Starting point is 00:18:01 He was okay. That's what we can say. We're laughing because he was okay. It will take a lot more than that to kill Brent Venable. So I promise you, it's a great call to God. He's pre-animated. He probably did die. And he just re-animated.
Starting point is 00:18:14 The best is when he finally emerges. He's just like a beaten man. I was going to argue on behalf of the exclusive video of that initial number 94 coming through the smoke with the GoPro that would have Venables going down, but you can't video anything in that smoke. You're not gonna get anything. There it is. But once, once, once stronger. I mean, once people start going down though, one of the worst places to be is in smoke where you cannot see what's in front of you. It looked like the scene when Mufasa dies.
Starting point is 00:18:51 The stampede where Mufasa all of a sudden you just see a big plumage of smoke. It's like is he in there? Is he okay? I would like the video team to find and I have not asked for this before so it's going to take a second. But just an assortment of videos of Pee Wee football players, seven and eight years old, trying to run through some paper and always get getting stuck like they don't have the strength of the momentum to break through the paper. So they just start log jamming. I didn't expect it with 300 pound people. I thought to myself, good Lord, what a terrifying place for Vennables to be to know that that smoke is behind him and to know how many players are coming like he's going. It's going to feel like he's being run over by bison. I thought to myself, that's exactly where Vennables wants to be. Go ahead, run over me.
Starting point is 00:19:42 It's the way he got ready for the TCU game. Watch me score 69 points here after getting trampled in the tunnel. The show goes on though. College football. It's like our coach might be dead at the bottom of this thing, but we're running out of this tunnel right now. I mean, the guy with the GoPro that knows that his coach, an older man was in front of him. It's running.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Keeps running. That's right. Keeps running. He's like, what am I gonna do? Get trampled as well. But that was not the best entrance of the weekend. We have a video of kids failing to go through the chair. Oh wow, that was quick.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yes, I have seen a number of people. Oh wow. He's a great kid. Look at the coach here pointing in the red direction. He gets upset and he's like, Oh, come on. Oh, the kids, I mean, he takes his hat off and he's a foreman. We worked on this. It's what it felt like to me. Right there guys. No, no, oh, then we worked on this.
Starting point is 00:20:38 You're gonna back. You can't get enough of those for me. There are many of them, they are, they are replete throughout P.W. football, but still got explained to me please, what it is that's happening here, where the Mississippi State coach, whose name I do not know, is coming out onto the field for the egg bowl.
Starting point is 00:20:58 He is coming out leading his players onto the field. Now, Mississippi State is a special kind of terrible. Every time I look up, they're scoring three or seven points this season. They cannot score in this particular game after this rousing entrance. They scored seven points and lost the egg bowl by 10. But here is the coach of their team on an ATV, on a four-wheeler. Four, what I can tell, is no discernible reason. This team out onto the field tonight and give them a little juice, Cole is with the Irma coach.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Coach, nothing is normal about the air ball. Why are you bringing the team out on this four-wheeler? This is about it, howling adversity, opposition. When you face things that's tough in life, this is a life lesson. And this is what we learned in 11 days I've been here. This is a life lesson. And that it is, he told me pregame.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And that it is. And that it is. That is. That is. That is. That is. His name is Greg Knox. And when he says what is the life lesson lesson the life lesson is that when men get power
Starting point is 00:22:07 They get ATVs. He's also no longer the Mississippi State at coach. That's right. How is going out on that thing? Adversity that it's easier to go out there. What's the light? Have something? The well the adversity is he coaches Mississippi State and they're not very good Look at these men behind me. You want to know what the adversity is? Look, it's right behind me. It's all these guys gathered up behind my ATV. Yeah, I guess the adversity was provided with some context by the commentators by saying
Starting point is 00:22:34 that's the only the second time he's ever been on an ATV. The first time was in the locker room before, so he's overcoming. That coach. He's like, honestly, I don't know why I'm on this thing either. They just gave it to me and I'm new here. So I said, all right. You just putt putt it along too. It didn't really inspire any. But it's second time. I he's not going to do that. You got to kick it in the high gear for the egg bowl. Been here 11 days. Yeah. They played. They came out flat and you have Greg Knox to blame for that. It reminds me of
Starting point is 00:23:04 Tubby Smith trying to come on the court at Kentucky on a motorcycle when he clearly hadn't ridden one and he just slid out. That's a dangerous game man. Yeah, I mean, so is this. It's less dangerous, admittedly, because it's four wheeler and it's safe, but he didn't have confidence. He also though had what he was going to say in his head already and it didn't matter what the question was because I don't understand what he's saying
Starting point is 00:23:27 when he says this is a life lesson. I wanted a follow up there. Coach, what's the life lesson? I don't know if I'm ever gonna be a head coach, you know what I am? I knew that if this was my only shot, I was coming out on an ATV. I'm watching the Tubby Smith video for the first time.
Starting point is 00:23:44 He was moving. It's going like 15 miles an hour. That's because he didn't know how to drive one. It's not a letter, Jen. Honestly, with how it ended, it could have gone a lot worse. What? He could have ended up going into the stands. That's how you stop when you don't know how to drive a motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I don't know if, to God's, and I don't mean this is correction. I'm just generally not sure that drive is the correct verb there for a motorcycle. It's not drive a boat, for example, and it's not drive a motorcycle. I don't think, put it on the pole, please, at Lebitard's show, is the correct verb for what you do on a motorcycle drive?
Starting point is 00:24:29 Apparently, Levitard shows you ride a motorcycle. You ride the hog, yeah. Okay. The four wheelers to God said, have you ever been on one? No. I have wrecked one. I have.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Oh, dangerous. I went into a, I was whole life lesson by sitting on it. I Yes Yeah, I sat on it and the wheels just came off because I'm so fat. Oh Is he staring at me? He's staring at me. It's just a lifelong trauma, is all. Like the first time I ever tried to get on one, the wheels went rolling into traffic because it collapsed under the, uh, under the size of my weight.
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Starting point is 00:26:38 Mm-hmm. Stugats! It's such a lame for you! Just everything in College football is awesome. Any single thing that happens, she gets deliriously happy about- Don't you miss viewing sports through that, like prism though.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Like, I'm envious of Lucy. Like, I wish that I could still be happy. This is the Dalé Batar show with this Tougat. You guys were lamenting how bad the 1 o'clock window was. And I don't think really you're applying the necessary context in that we got four games before the normal 1 o'clock window on a Sunday. So naturally, it's going to be a little diluted. It's not like the games that we got in advance were kind of great. Detroit Green Bay was, I guess, interesting, but all blowouts on Thanksgiving. But then we were given a prize for the first
Starting point is 00:27:32 time ever. Amazon was going to carry a Black Friday game. And before the season, it looked like it was going to be great to us versus Aaron Rogers. And Aaron Rogers and that Achilles has nuked the prime time scheduling because you can't exactly flex out the New York market. So we're suck with the mystery of Tim Boyle. Do we solve that one? I mean, you could see why he's starting because he has such great command of Nathaniel Hackett's all of us. He's starting this upcoming week too.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah, go ahead. After that performance, you can't. You can't. It's Trevor Simian. they have three quarterbacks, one of which we've only seen move the ball. Like Trevor Simian's the only guy that I think we've, if you've played fantasy, like maybe I take a little flyer on Trevor Simian, but okay, they're not gonna play
Starting point is 00:28:16 Trevor Simian, they're gonna try Tim Boyle over there. During the game, the most interesting thing happened, it wasn't over the broadcast, although there is something from the broadcast, I'd like to get into Mike McDaniel, who was winning after for much of that game. And then at halftime, you had one moment where the Jets could have maybe taken control
Starting point is 00:28:33 of that game. That was exactly it. And on Hail Mary, they end up throwing a pick six. So just so people have the context. The dolphins are at the time winning 10, six. And with two seconds left in the half, two of throws is second interception. And if you're doubting the dolphins, you are watching how they will lose in the playoffs. If
Starting point is 00:28:55 you're a dolphin doubter, you're watching two of have something close to the golf that game that's going to also end whatever happens in Detroit, where you can see from here how the game's going to end. whatever happens in Detroit, where you can see from here how the game's going to end two seconds left and the half. He's thrown a couple of terrible passes. This is the second of them. But the game goes on, Dolphin's Info Control. And I can see from this video that we're about to queue up that the score is 27 to 6.
Starting point is 00:29:20 And Jets fans, God bless them. They think that this is a great time to talk trash to the head coach on the opposing sideline because because he's near the heater right because he's from Miami and he's a wimp who is who needs a heater and because we're Jeff fans. It yeah. He's not from Miami, but he is wearing joggers and the ankles are probably a little nippy in the cold weather, but this is what happens when Jetsan try to talk to Mike McDaniel for saying the next to a heater and give him some guff. I'm cool. I am cold and also winning. The only coach in the league who does that. There's not another maybe Suryani.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Maybe Suryani would do it. Yeah, although Suryani wouldn't admit that he is cold. He would just stand there. You want to go near the heater. That's the opposite of what the bills players were doing with Eagles fans after the game. Did you guys see that video? There was one where like a couple players had like that to pull a guy back Eagles fans after the game. Did you guys see that video? There was one where the couple players had, like they had to pull a guy back.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah, do you? I mean, it was, honestly, the Eagles fans were being jerks. Yeah, the NFL's investigating that. The NFL's investigating that. The players made their way over there where you gotta just not do that. But the one interesting nugget from.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I would say the fans also need to not do that. I agree. The one interesting nugget from the prime broadcast was maybe, oh, Michael's, I mean, he added a Friday So now he's called the football game on all a pro football game on all seven days of the week That's cool. Michael's found the energy on that hill marry I think who I'm really and he also did the signature thing of talking about the spread at the end of the game trying to keep it interesting But he did provide a cool little story from talking fascinated by Mike McDaniel
Starting point is 00:31:04 You can see that throughout the broadcast. And Mike McDaniel was asked for a story about his time in the arena football league in Sacramento. And he's like, well, there was this one time I was running back's coach. And one of my players was dancing with this beautiful woman on the dance floor. And I told him, hey, get out of there.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Where you're gonna get cut. And then Mike McDaniel cuts in. And then the story goes that the woman that he was dancing with ended up being his wife. We have a guest booker here Matt Sullivan that was doing research on this and looking at the roster of that Sacramento arena football league and one of his running backs was John David Washington. Wow. The son of Denzel Washington. Wow. That's funny. I asked Sullivan. I thought I thought today would be the day to get that running back Without realizing he's gonna be hard to get if he's Denzel Washington son I just wanted some arena league running back who was dying to tell the story of Mike McDaniel stealing his girl on the dance floor
Starting point is 00:31:59 Al Michaels did enjoy telling that story Mike Ryan, I don't know what broadcast you were listening to. I will let my announcers age with grace. I don't want to fire them, but I do understand the criticism of Al Michaels sounding a little lethargic because Al Michaels did say that the Javan Holland interception was as crazy a thing as you will ever see. He did not announce it that way. He said it was the craziest thing you'll ever see.
Starting point is 00:32:30 So technically, he did announce it that way, but he did not meet the moment in tenor and tone with what it is that we were watching, which the craziness of a Hail Mary, did you guys see how many yards Garrett Wilson ran on that play? No. 174 yards. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:32:45 174 yards. Garrett Wilson ran on that play according to the next Gen stats because he went from one goal line to the other and got there a yard late because, uh, boil can't tackle. That mystery also soft. Nice. You put it on him though. He did broke down, boil. But Al Michaels has seen it all.
Starting point is 00:33:05 So you expect him to get excited for every single thing? I mean, he hasn't seen that. None of us have. He himself said that it's the craziest thing you'll ever see. None in football. Just the craziest thing you'll ever see. There was also one thing that wasn't mentioned, all the things that I was talking about,
Starting point is 00:33:21 where Tyree Hill scores a touchdown, and then gives the ball to his wife in the stands. Then I was like, oh, I hope that's his wife. I'm not 100% sure. We're like, oh, someone didn't watch hard knocks. No, you can't guess there, though. Tony's right. You cannot guess that's not a guessing game.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Season better. Did you guys watch hard knocks finally? Yes. You did. Yeah. Is his wife's fault, right? The nachos. She definitely knocked it down.
Starting point is 00:33:44 He even came out and said as much. He said it was 100% our fault. She pulled down the nachos she definitely knocked it down he even came out and said as much he said it was a hundred percent of fault she pulled down the nachos can you the carls sister there were a couple of interesting things about hard knocks and i do i've always said that it's kind of the illusion of access because of how edited it is but it's more access than you usually get with that league. And the way the dolphins talked about Max Crosby as a team, like the way they were talking about him, I found startling, even though I know those things are so,
Starting point is 00:34:16 I'm just used to the respect being begrudging in the locker room. They don't want to say a guy's too good, but on Max Crosby, they're all like, yeah, he never gets tired and he's a problem And he's their best player and all of us everybody everybody who's here offense kickers everybody I need you worried about Max Crosby. We've told you before Max Crosby is terrifying He has two X's in his name should be three X's right Max Crosby over the weekend the rare doubtful designation and still started and Andy got a sack on Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:34:46 He's incredible. I want to be Max Krosby when I grew up. Do you really? Ah, I think the most terrifying guy in the league, Max Krosby is up there, but I think Chris Jones is probably the most terrifying guy in the league. I mean, when Miles Garrett leaves in a sling, I'm like, people shouldn't be doing what Miles Garrett
Starting point is 00:35:01 is doing for a living if Miles Garrett can leave in a sling. That person cannot have his arms hurt, but there are a number of scary people in that sport right now. Do you guys believe to when he says I'm not watching any of that on hard knocks? He's not watching any of it. He says I do believe him. I believe him.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah. Yeah. He seemed innocent and a little corny in the episode. He seemed to me, honestly, he's more fun than he leads on. Like he's capable of being down and having a good time and then when he's in front of the microphone, he turns it up. Little too excited about it. He wants to give you nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Little too excited about Secret Santa for me. Oh, I loved it. I'm a big time guy. Any time. But he also already had everybody's guess, which was what? Mike White did not let that slide. Well, no, it's confusing to me because how is he a big time guy?
Starting point is 00:35:47 And also, do you know how secret Santa works? You shouldn't have bought everyone gifts if you're only going to get one person. Like what's going on? Well, I think the quarterback gets stuff for the offensive line. I think that's what he was doing there. Do you remember that weird Ronaldo piece where they they profiled to and they kind of made it seem like a tearjerker? Even though part of the nuggets in that piece was like
Starting point is 00:36:06 Yeah, my dad would get the belt every time I threw a pick six and then the piece would keep going and you're like wait a second Did he actually say that? I think they said that his dad made him go to Alabama. That's right. Yeah Chris if you're Sam Hable, do you get your offensive line gifts? Yes, well, I get what you say Not good gifts What are the bad gifts? I'm trying to think what a candle. What's the lazy. The most fun. The most fun gift. It's hard to like, shillies. Well, my wife and I do that every year. We'll give a gift that's right on the line between insult and lawful and it's like you've got a guess.
Starting point is 00:36:43 For the people that we don't actually care about, we didn't give this any thought, but you're getting a gift, so is it an insult? Aaron, was I thinking of you? Does Aaron have to buy his line presence? Because he's obviously the richest of the quarterbacks on his team, but he played four plays. I don't know how that works.
Starting point is 00:37:01 They got him hurts. Well, speaking of hurt, Jalen Phillips gets hurt on that turf too. No, that Achilles. Billy hates that turf, too. Tony doesn't want to talk about it all about it. Everybody does. I mean, Holland called it trash after the game,
Starting point is 00:37:13 and everyone says of that, it seems stupid and a multi-billion dollar sport that we're still ransacking human bodies because we can't get the field right because it's shit. Like that, I mean mean that doesn't seem They should be sparing no expense on making it most probable in the violin sport that you can't get hurt with a non-contact injury because the Turf is shit, but there's also like certain fields that people just get hurt on like met life people get hurt on Cincinnati people get hurt on right. I heard San Francisco also a lot of people get hurt on that one. Why can't you do something about this? I mean, the
Starting point is 00:37:48 kids are gonna get hurt. The San Francisco ones just rumors though. What was it was Mike Fuentes, I think, that told me. Oh, okay. Here's the thing. You're going, you know, what I think it was Gina that told me was about a lot. One of the Fuentes is the turf at MetLife has the cause of a lot of Achilles injuries, but it has me watching the Jalen Phillips injury in a different way where you see that rubber band Achilles kind of snap when they did the replay of it, and I was like, oh my God, I lost my mind. I have a very irrational fear that my Achilles
Starting point is 00:38:14 is gonna snap like that, like walking up the stairs, or like doing something normal, all of a sudden it's gonna be like, because Jalen Phillips, all he really did was push off. Yeah, he didn't do anything great. Don't let a thousand times just in the last week. It's your job. It's how you start your job. It's like the part where you don't get hurt.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Can someone tell us though for sure, like was that just bound to happen to him? And it's just about her when is it the field? Like everyone's kind of getting mad at the field, but it's like nobody knows. Well, the gestures change the turf and the giants because they both play home games there. They just change it to field turf.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And it got good reviews before this season. In this particular case, Chris, and I don't know exactly, obviously. But when things start breaking on your body, then other things start also breaking on your body. And Jalen Phillips has had an assortment and these things might not actually be interconnected. But when someone gets dismissed as injury prone,
Starting point is 00:39:11 I tend to just assign it to if other things that are connected to that aren't working correctly. Eventually that's not gonna work correctly someday too. Well, there's a thing called the posterior chain, right? Which everything in the back is connected to each other, right? Your back is connected to your hip, hip, hip, your hamstrings all the way down.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Hip bones connected to the head. Exactly. So if he had something like in his back that traveled down, it was hamstring, it went to his calf, all of a sudden, nothing snaps. Can happen? I mean, there's just so many injuries on that turf, but it should be noted that Jalen Phillips is a player that once in his college career had to medically retire. So he's had a lot of stuff going on with his body.
Starting point is 00:39:46 So I guess that theory does hold some water, but the theory that holds more water is all the injuries and all the stars that have succumbed to that turf and met life. They have a real problem. That is an injury that really hurts the Miami Dolphins because their past rush is made a lot less effective when he is not a part of it.
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