The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Now Wait Just One Second with LaTroy Hawkins

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

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David Sampson is going to join us in moments. I do want to start a segment, Something Fishy, okay? Because Greg Cody is alleging something fishy here in the Samuel family. Podcast. That's gotta be out there already, right? Hosted by Marty Fish. There was a podcast, Stegatz was trying to sling

some Andy Roddick Marty Fish podcast idea together. I think he was calling it Dick Fish or something. Somebody's gotta ask him. He had an idea. Why are you making that face, Aslo? That's a funny name for a podcast. It's probably taken. I love how Stugatz fleshes out ideas.

Hey, Travis Kelce should have a podcast. That's your idea, man. Yeah, well, David Sampson has stolen something made popular by Stugatz. He played the game recently with Stan Van Gundy, Stan Van In or Stan Van Out. That makes no sense. Who did I steal that from?

Well, I don't know, but that's a game that sort of is played by Billy and Stugatz, except they're more clever with the word play that's Stan Van In and Stan Van out, which doesn't make any sense. Stu has just claimed that he cornered the market on those type of hacky titles for games. Well, he also claimed that he came up

with the designated batter rule. So, you know, it is what it is. Stan was a great guest. I appreciated the the metal arc help and having him join. And we do a guest every Tuesday and Thursday. We just had Bobby Valentine on today, which was fun to talk to him. And Stan, we just were talking about issues

actually of today's NBA and what his views were and whether he was in or out. I liked the movie In and Out. So I don't think Stu came up with that. Great flick. What are your thoughts on what it is that we were just discussing here with Pat Riley and I don't I'm not necessarily interested in what you think of the Norman Powell trade but do you guys know that old Sampson ran into Pat Riley here in Italy

he was that did did Sampson did he put that out in public or was that a private thing? I put that out I I posted a picture I believe, I either sent it to you or posted it, I'm trying to remember which, but we ran into each other at a Springsteen concert in Milan and we were in a pre-concert area called the E Street Lounge and there he was and there I was and we locked eyes from across the room,

easy for him to need a lot guys with him because he was the tallest person in the room. And I wasn't. And there was some context issues other than the fact we've seen each other at Springsteen concerts for years and years and years. And we immediately got to talking about what it is for runs to come to an end

and how you deal with that. Because query, were we at the last Bruce Springsteen and East Street band concert? And what does that mean to us? And what is it to run a team where you know that your run is over? How do you try to hang on? And this was pre Powell.

I was, he did not mention the Powell trade to me at all, but we certainly did talk about what it is to really have good self-awareness about your team. What did he say? And you're making it sound like you two were talking as peers. Like you, Bruce, and him.

No, no, Springsteen was not there. No, I know, but the way that you're framing it, it sounds like the conversation, you're immediately going to, you buried a time in your career and reinvented yourself in a new medium and it sounds like you were putting yourself in the company of Pat Riley and Bruce Springsteen.

So Dan, I can only tell you that Pat Riley and I have known each other for a very long time and have spoken about running teams because we both ran teams. And so I can't be a peer of a Hall of Famer. He's the greatest to ever do it, both in my mind as a coach and as an executive. So we're in the same industry, I would say,

but I would not call him my peer, but I'm thankful to call him a good acquaintance. I wouldn't call him a friend because I don't throw that word around as much as some other people I know, but a good acquaintance. But we did get into a deep conversation while waiting for the Springsteen concert to start.

And Chris Cody was interested in what he had to say. He wants you to spill secrets on how Pat Riley told you, and as if it were breaking news that an 80-year-old man might be contemplating whatever is the end. Well, so I like how you try to put death as part of, you know, cast over every one of your interviews as it relates to people who are octogenarians. But Pat Riley was not thinking about death by any stretch.

We were thinking about life, and we were about to watch a 75-year-old rock for three hours, and we were in awe of that. And the conversation was based on not the end of his life or my mortality or my hypochondria. It was actually based on when you are putting a team together, whether it's metal arc, whether it's on air, whether it's an on court team,

how do you know when you've gone too far? How do you know when you don't have the right pieces around you and when are you able to admit it? And we were talking about free agency and the trade deadline and all of these things. So peer, I think is not relevant to the conversation. What's relevant is Pat Riley acknowledging with me that that is the hardest thing to do. No matter who you are, Hall of Famer or Schlepper,

the hardest thing to do is to have enough self-awareness to recognize your failings. All right, you gave it to us at the end a little there. If I want to know what he said. Are you Stan Van Inn or Stan Van Out on Juan Soto should be an All-Star? In, Stan Van Inn. He can't be the player of the month for one of the three months that happened before the All-Star game,

the best player and not be an All-Star, but he will be an All-Star. There's so many replacements that'll be coming. I promise you Juan Soto will be in Atlanta. Are you Stan Van in or Stan Van out on Mike Brown as the new coach of the Knicks? Couldn't be more Stan Van out. That as a Knick fan, I am despondent beyond repair

because there's no way that Mike Brown's name is going down in history with Red Holesman. Mike Brown with his championship pedigree, give me a small break. This has Dolan written all over it. We knew on nothing personal was an official way to see that Dolan would hire someone with experience because that's what he would rely on

as some way to keep sort of the vision alive that he knows what he's doing. I don't think Mike Brown is the answer. I think Tibbs was the answer. And the fact that they got rid of him just shows that Dolan is being impestuous, which I'm very familiar with. And it doesn't lead to champion. Wait a minute. Impestuous sounds like it's combining impetuous and incestuous. So I love where your head is. The word salad of that, impestuous, is a compound word

that is meant to indicate that it is someone who is both incestuous and impetuous. I don't believe that's true in any way. I believe that you're faking your way through that. I believe that that was a bullshit word of yours. Impestuous is not a word. And you just went and told us, and this was funny, did you guys hear this or did you not hear it?

He gave us an official wait to see. There was an official wait to see that David Sampson declared, it is one of the worst catchphrases I've ever heard. Wait to see. Thank you, Dan. No, but it is, and look, you can't imagine, you cannot imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger,

you know, doing a movie and the poster is wait to see yeah, like I understand what you're what you're doing there You're being fair. You're being reasonable What is an official wait to see for those who are not familiar with the nothing personal parlance? And what it means to be an official wait to see It means that we're actually accountable for what we do on the show and you can go to davidsamsonpodcast.com and we have a document. It's a tracking document with every one of our picks where we you'll see whether I got the pick right or wrong because we pick a game every day, every movie I've reviewed and every wait to see, which is when we tell you something's going to happen. And if it does, okay, if it doesn't, okay, but we'll

revisit it to say we were right or we were wrong. Not a lot of accountability in the fake podcast world. Okay, so thank you for bringing that up. We have got a new game for you that we're tearing through the charts. We're flying off the charts with this new game that we're playing. These are baseball podcasts or not? Are they real or fake?

Are you ready to do this? Does this have the same music or different music? Roy, hit it. So 80s. David, we will ask you if these podcasts are real or fake. The first one up is Three Up, Three Down with Hunter Green. Fake. Why'd you take Hunter Green?

He's not a talker. Three up, three down. I know, but why do you put... With Hunter Green. He would have no reason to be doing a podcast. That is fake. I answered it before you finished the question Jeopardy-style. I know, but he's showing his lack of knowledge on Hunter Green and he just wanted to say

the name Hunter Green. Next one up. HecklesD's with Adam Jones. HecklesD's. Fake? Fake. That is a real podcast. HecklesD's.

Let me call Stu and see if it's on the charts. No, wait a minute. You've got it wrong. Don't, don't, he's telling you it's real. That is a real podcast. Hecklebees. You're not. Yeah, that was a throwback reference to Stu

criticizing nothing personal for not being on the charts. Thank you, Dan. What happened? You and Stu are beefing? You were actually the center of it. You were there. You were a part of it. When?

You were there. I can't even of it. When? You were there. All right. The Compound with Ian Hap. The Compound with Ian Hap. Why was I there? I was there, what? Is the Compound. Because you're the leader of the show.

With Ian Hap, a real podcast. He's in a compound? The Compound with Ian Hap. I believe that Ian Hap does have a podcast. I don't know its name, but I'm going to go real on that. That is real. Ian Hap hit the home run on opening day that Dan swallowed Billy.

Next one. Now wait just one second with LaTroy Hawkins. Too long. I'm going fake. Too long. I'm going fake. It would be wait just one second. Now wait just one second. The now gave it away, Mike. You can't start with now.

He just wanted to make us laugh with the name LaTroy Hawkins and he got Roy. Now wait just one second with LaTroy Hawkins. Wasn't LaTroy Hawkins and he got Roy. Now wait just one second with LaTroy Hawkins. Wasn't LaTroy Hawkins like a great hold guy? Wouldn't it be like hold up? Cause he was like. Hey man, don't give away the goods. You say fake?

It would not be called hold up Chris, I promise you. That is a great name for a podcast. Now wait just one second. It is good, with an exclamation point. It is fake. How about the thing Is with Niger Morgan? That should be with Pablo Tore. Niger Morgan?

I believe that that one is actually real. I'm gonna go real for a dollar, Alex. The Thing Is with Niger Morgan is not a real podcast. No shit. The guy that fought Chris Volstead. Morgan is not a real podcast. No shit. Chris Volstead. Side retired, hosted by various middle relief pitchers. That's a good podcast. Because it's various relief pitchers, that sounds more

reasonable to me that people wouldn't want the grind of a daily podcast. So I'm going to go real for that as well. It is real. Wow! And finally, Batter's Eye with Brian Roberts. That is also real. Although I don't know that it's Brian Roberts who does it, but there is a show called Batter's Eye, but it's very impestuous.

There is no podcast called Batter's Eye with Brian Roberts. All right, so David Samson is truly terrible at this game. Everyone is. It's sweeping the nation. Thank you, Mike. Please prepare for the end of this segment as quickly as you can. Would you attend their funeral? Because that's the hottest new game that we have around here.

And David Sampson is the only one anywhere who plays it well. Are you Stan Van in or Stan Van out on the Marlins winning 10 straight road games? Suggest that this is actually gonna be a good young team down the stretch. I am Stan Van in that it's a great accomplishment that I never was able to accomplish ten in a row on the road They are down to seven games under 500 There's still got a lot of teams to climb over in the wild card I am Stan Van out that they will be a wild card team, but I'm Stan Van in that there are major conversations happening between the owner and the president of baseball ops,

Bruce Sherman and Peter Bendix, whether or not they should do a little bit of adding with their selling because if they stay this hot, you know, it could lead to excitement, which often leads to tears. However, if Sandy keeps pitching well and someone makes a huge offer, Peter's gonna take it. What this 10 game road winning streak has done in winning these series in a row, like six or seven in a row, it's made it so

they're not gonna settle for crap return for Sandy just to move the money. They're gonna wait for a real return. And then if they keep them, they keep them for the rest of the season. All right, David, let me just bring something up here because nobody actually nationally wants to hear about the Marlins, but more theoretically as it comes to baseball teams, okay?

The original Marlins team, I think, started 30 and 31 and couldn't keep it up, lost 100 games because it was an old team of veterans and it's a long season. But when a young team does on the road what they've just done against good teams, like this isn't getting fat on anybody who's not good. When you win 10 straight games against the teams

that they're playing against, all winning teams, and you're young, it suggests to me that you can get better over the second half of the season. That you've got such a young team that it actually might be good. That this isn't a team getting hot. That this is a team that has enough young talent that if the pitching stays healthy,

it's something that you can count on them to hit. Yeah, that's total recency bias, Dan, because there's a bunch of streaks that happen during the course of a season where you think like, wow, remember at the beginning of the season, the pirates were maybe playing better, the Reds were playing fine.

And then there was a time when the Blue Jays were out of it and done. And now they're three games up on the Yankees. Are they good or not? Are they good or not? The Marlins have good pieces. There's no question. They've done a great job,

but they way better than Jeter obviously in getting stuff back and getting young players. The question is, when do you sprinkle it with veterans in order to make the complete team ready to make a run into October? And I think the ownership group will say not now. I asked you a Stand Van In, Stand Van Out question. You gave me three different answers without answering

the one I was asking you. Is this a good team? Are you Stan Van in or Stan Van out? Stan Van out. Okay, you don't believe it because I believe young players who are hitting can get better over the course of a season. You might think they fade.

You might be... I just think there's regression. You don't... They're very hot, and it's great. I love watching it. I don't want... Coca, the producer, my steam producer, accuses me of always yucking on people's yum

as though that's the currency we trade in on nothing personal and that's not correct. It's cool when your team is winning games. It's fun, enjoy it, but it doesn't mean that, the Dodgers have lost five in a row. Should we run around like our heads on fire, like they stink and that the Padres' giants are gonna catch them? No, they've lost five in a row. Should we run around like our heads on fire, like they stink and that the Padres' giants are gonna catch them?

No, they've lost five in a row. It's not the end of the world. And you've gotta have that view on both sides. No, but you don't, it doesn't have to be the end of the world. Like what, the end of the world? Dan. The end of the world. You're right, it's not climate change, sorry.

I'm just, I can, what kind of analysis is gonna hold up in the face of that but yes over any five games you can say something uh... anything about a baseball team i don't want to talk about the marlis anymore i've kept them uh... i'd i'd i'm actually interested in what it is that they're doing but i want to go back to you saying that bobby valentine was a guest on nothing personal here uh... i thought says or you familiar with any of this the backstory

on samson bobby valentine is that bobby valentine had been hired to manage the marlins and samson did an assortment of things with buying fest behind the scenes to make it very hard i think i remember that yes actually take that job bobby valentine would like that job and so there was a lot of animosity between valentine and david samson but samson claim that it was fine that everything was good when they did a postseason run of baseball games last year on cbs together they work together

and they claim that the well let's just hear the sound from the watch along that we do with tim kurchin and you you tell me as low whether you think this whether Bobby Valentine thinks that the the hatchet is buried with David Samson. I was happy to hear that you and David Samson had buried the hatchet last postseason. Well I can't is that a fact? I mean that sounds like someone who thinks the hatch has been buried, David. Well, the objection there, Dan, is that the way you cut that audio is you didn't play what came next.

So obviously that snippet would indicate that there is some serious hatch that's still in existence. But if you listen to today's show, or you watch what we did in the World Series last year, you would know that it was mostly buried with occasional doses of inflammation where truth came to the surface and I was just honest with him and told him that yeah, I stopped you from getting hired. Is that a fact? I don't know. Okay, but he's claiming that we're creatively editing these things. We're not creatively editing these things. I don't, I think that Bobby Valentine

is one of these strange creatures that actually doesn't mind conflict, kind of enjoys it, doesn't care how awkward it looks. Yeah, I didn't, it was never awkward. The awkward part was having him not get hired after he was hired. And that was a moment I will never forget in my career because we hadn't announced publicly

that we were even firing the current manager and we had already hired the new one in Bobby Valentine. And we had to get him fired because I knew it would not work out. And what's the easiest way to get someone fired is you tell the owner, our owner at the time, and you say, by the way, the manager will not take lineup suggestions.

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This man has. You haven't. That man. Who the hell are you? Stugats. I am. Who the hell are you? Bullshit.

Me. You're a rude young man. You're a fool. You're a fool. I already called you a fool. You can't call me a fool. You're an idiot again. You're an idiot twice. You're an idiot for dismissing how much I've helped you. This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugats. David, is it a good Italian restaurant if they have an autographed photo of Bobby Valentine on the wall? Oh, for sure. I would be more apt to go to a Japanese restaurant with an autograph of Bobby Valentine. Is it a good Italian restaurant if they have a photo that's autographed of Dennis Farina

on the wall? Oh, 100%. Go make me a sandwich. What is the best? they have a photo that's autographed of Dennis Farina on the wall. 100%. Go make me a sandwich. What is the best- That's a Midnight Run reference, sorry. What is the best, yes. If you've got an autographed photo

of Dennis Farina on your wall, you're at least four and a half stars. So he was a Chicago cop, correct? And give me a funnier name that you could possibly come up with for a photograph on a wall, because now it's got a conjuring image of a mustache you guys go ahead and find dennis farina for me because he you guys will all recognize smile you will recognize this face it will make the late dennis farina

john ashton but as good mustache as good mustache in a and an italian restaurant if they have dennis farina former chicago cop who just had a great career as an That's a good mustache. In an Italian restaurant, if they have Dennis Farina, former Chicago cop, who just had a great career as an actor where you would simply look at him and he would make you happy because, well, you might not have liked Reindeer Games, but he was great in it.

Do you have anything to declare? Yeah, don't go to England. I've got three more real or possibly fake podcasts. Hit the music. All right. Still with this game, OK? Is this real baseball podcast the walkout with Lance McCullers and Carlos Correa?

Is that a real baseball podcast? God, that's such a great one, because McCullers, he's the last remaining with Altuve from 2017. podcast. So this one's a trick question. It is a real podcast, but it's about MMA. For some reason hosted by Lance McCullers and Carlos Correa, the walkout they're referring to as the walkout to the octagon. Next one up. Who's on first with Ryan Klesko? I don't believe I've ever seen Ryan Klesko host a podcast.

I'm going to go fake as well. That's a good name though. This is why, this is how you know they're fake though. When you come up with a great name for the 90s that conjures a batting stance, we know it's not a real podcast because why would Ryan Klesko be doing a podcast? I mean, why would Layne McCullers be doing an MMA podcast?

And finally, the baseball barista with Hunter Pence. Woof! Yes! This was a real podcast. with Hunter Pence. Yes. This was a real podcast. It stopped putting out episodes in 2021, but the Baseball Barista with Hunter Pence was a real podcast. And Mike, I don't know if the fix was in on this,

but I got a call yesterday whether or not I'd be interested in having Hunter Pence on as a guest. And so the reason I went yes so quickly is I assumed he was promoting something or wanting to be a part of something. So I put it together. I'd never heard of that podcast, but that's how I got to. It feels like it would be pretty on brand that it's not actually stopped or canceled. He just hasn't gotten around to making another episode and he'd wait four and a half years to do another one. I like it.

I wanted to ask Sampson about a story from a week ago before we get ready for Would You Attend Their Funeral. But Severino, I don't know if you guys saw, it was just such a curious thing that the A's gave big money out of nowhere to Severino. Now he's one of these guys with an ERA over five and he doesn't like playing in the ballpark and I thought David you mentioned Correa Correa was complaining about the minor league facilities at the ballpark I

think Zach Wheeler was complaining about the mound at the ballpark we've got a couple of major league teams playing in beneath major league circumstances right now correct? Yeah it's an issue you've got circumstances right now, correct? Yeah, it's an issue. You've got Tampa right now playing at the Yankee Spring Training Facility and you've got the Athletics playing in a triple-A facility in Sacramento. But where you're incorrect is the reason Severino got signed to that deal, it was a three-year deal, let's say call it for $67 million, is part of the collective bargaining agreement required the A's to raise their payroll.

So they had to increase and they signed a pitcher, gave him the biggest contract Oakland organization had ever given, but it was to achieve a certain payroll number. So talk about great timing and talk about biting the hand that feeds you. I want Severino to be traded to an outpost. I want him to think that Sacramento was the place that feeds you. I want Severino to be traded to an outpost. I want him to think that Sacramento

was the place of his dreams. I was thinking maybe a team in the California Pino League because he took this $20 million and it's not like he's performing. The guy stinks and then sullies the stadium, like, oh, I'm too good to be in Sacramento. You're right, How about Columbus? That feels like a guess what, Greg Cody.

You just hit him with the equivalent of a guess what. Guess what? You're right. I was on my list. You're right, and then send him to the minor league. Guess what? With Glen Allen Hill was on my list. Oh, excellent.

Yes, I own that though. I own it. Did you see what it is that Sampson just did? He punctuated the take by pointing straight at the camera and sending Severino to the minor leagues. I know, that was forceful. That's why he's the great broadcaster he is, David Sampson. Nothing personal, every day, two hours

as part of the LeBotard and Friends Network and as part of the DraftKings Network. Before we review the movie here, let's play a game of Would You Attend Their Funeral? Can I get the happy music? David, would you attend Perry Hill's funeral? Absolutely not. What? Whoa!

Bone. No. Whoa! Perry Hill is not someone who I will ever see again. Wait, one of the great infield coaches of all time. One of the great PR infield coaches of all time. Whoa! He's a politician now. That's hate.

What? No, it's not hate. It's nothing personal. Actually, here's the thing. With Nigel Morgan. Here's the thing. DraftKings Network, by the way, for the folks at home watching on

the Dan Leventhaler YouTube, our show starts at 8am, not 9am. We added an extra hour. The thing with Perry Hill is that he did a lot of work behind the scenes that made my job harder, and I want people who work to make my job easier. So in my

entire career, Wall Street, wherever I've been, no one's made my job harder to do than Perry Hill. And to me, that eliminates any chance that I will go to your funeral. Can you give an example of that? That's shocking. How would an infield coach- Yes, when you go right to the owner

to demand certain player position moves, when you go right to the owner over the GM's head, over the manager's head, knowing that you've got the owner's ear from your relationship back in the Texas Oklahoma City days where you can demand whatever salary you want, but actually not want to do the extra work to deserve it. Oh God, wait, do you want me to keep going?

I'm just getting started, Zad. Yes, please do. Yeah. Perry Hill is known to be one of the- I'm just getting started is a great name for a podcast. Perry Hill is known to be one of the- I'm just getting started. It's a great name for a podcast. Perry Hill is known in baseball circles as one of the nicest and friendliest people you will ever meet.

What circles are you talking about? Media. He was great with the media. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Fred. I'm just saying. That's good. We should draw a correlation between the people

who have the best relationship with members of the media as though that is an indicator. Forget leading, it's not even lagging in terms of what it means inside a clubhouse or what it means. Now, did he make players better? Did I love when he stuck a thing right in the infield to tell people where to play?

I'm in. But guess what? When we replaced him, when he retired because he wanted so much money that finally we got to Jeffrey and said, this is absurd. The only way we'll give that much money is if his name is Barry Bonds,

and then we'll lie about it. And then Perry comes back because he had, whatever. No, there are plenty of great in field coaches out there. There was a middle, there was a guess what in the middle of that, that Samson threw in trying to, trying to hone in on Cody's game over here. Samson is not only not going to Perry Hill's funeral, he's going to picket it.

You're going to go out there, you're going to carry a sign. This is shocking sound. This, I will not allocate time to picket someone's funeral. Are you kidding me, Greg? I'm on the clock right now. But real good live podcast quick real or fake podcast. I'm just getting warmed up with Darren Oliver Why Darren Oliver because he's That's he's a long reliever that's just getting warmed up. That's telling stories, but that's his towel David Don't you see and long reliever. That's what he does. His towel is just funny names from the 90s

is all he's doing. It's fake. I'll just get warmed up with Darren Owes. I'm gonna say fake. Yes. All right, it is fake. Would you attend Ozzy Gian's funeral? In Chicago or in Venezuela? Dealerers choice.

Well, no to Venezuela. I would zoom into that one and I would do it. I would go to Chicago for sure, because I would like to see Osney and the children and his wife. And I would like to celebrate what he did with us

as a Marlins third base coach. And I would like to honor him for winning the World Series in 05 in Chicago. So,. And I would like to honor him for winning the World Series in 05 in Chicago. So, yes, I would go to Ozzie's funeral as long it was in Chicago. And I could fly into O'Hare and get to downtown, not during traffic.

I would be critical piece of travel. I've got to apologize to the audience. I've been disoriented. Like, I'm not totally here because those are the most shocking words ever spoken publicly about Perry Hill. Like, I just I disoriented. Like, I'm not totally here because those are the most shocking words ever spoken publicly about Perry Hill. Like, I just, I don't- PR master. I just don't know what to do.

Like, that, what, right now he just unmasked Perry Hill in a way no one's ever seen before. Look- But Dan, all he had to do was ask. And I'm not begrudging the fact that we won a World Series together. I'm not begrudging the fact that he has a family or that he wants to work for a living. I'm not begrudging the fact that we won a World Series together, I'm not begrudging the fact that he has a family or that he wants to work for a living.

I'm not begrudging that. You asked me would I go to his funeral, and I said no, trying to explain to you why I wouldn't, which is quite simple. Why would I go to the funeral of someone who made my life miserable day in and day out by stepping over the head of his manager, by stepping over the head of his general manager, his president of baseball operations

to have a direct line to the owner to effectuate changes that would benefit him. Why would I go to that funeral? Is he aware that you feel this way? Of course, I've told him. I don't let things fester, Dan. People around Metal Arch may not realize that, but you should.

I don't let it fester. It was a great day when we were finally able to convince Jeffrey to allow for the departure of Ariel. I am just floored, and I'm sorry, America, that we have unleashed this. He just wiped his face. David Sampson just, that right there is how you punctuate a take. Wiping the froth off your face with a kerchief.

That is a new lane for you, Samson. That was like a pricey, whatever the hell that was. Where you totally rip someone, you disgrace someone who's had a pristine reputation in public for 30 years, and then you just wipe the spittle off your mouth because it's come so easy to you. It wasn't spittle on my mouth it was fits on my brow. Nice kerchief. Let's review the movie of the week please what is it that you're reviewing this week.

I cannot get enough of the train wrecked episodes I I'm addicted to him and I'm having gotten to American apparel but I will but I watched the Mayor of Mayhem and I kept thinking I was watching a Saturday Night Live skit with Chris Farley. That's the only thing that was in my head the whole time. The mayor in Toronto was this guy named Rob Ford. I had no idea that the guy croaked.

I only knew him as the crazy mayor who was trying to be like Ed Koch part seven where hey, how am I doing? I'm Ed Koch and he would go around unlikely to be voted as mayor became mayor and it became a nightmare because He was on video doing crack Literally doing crack in a crack pipe. I don't know that it was a crack dent, but it was a crack pipe and he denied it. He was gonna go down full denial.

He said, show me the video. They showed the video, he keeps denying it and it was him. And then he got a little PR help and he had to admit that it was him. And what do you do when you're found to be a sex addict or a crack addict? What's the first thing you do? You guys know. You go to rehab.

That's what he did. He went to rehab and then came back and then died of cancer. The train wreck series has some stuff that's just very easy to watch, poop crews. This is empty calories, what he's mentioning here. This is 50 minutes of yes, what does it look like when a politician before Trump goes the shameless route of trying to hide in public that he's a crack fiend, that he's publicly, like he's running around all of Toronto

basically doing drugs in places and there's video everywhere because he hasn't accounted for the internet age. He denied the video, which is, I think it's very silly to deny the existence of a video, unless you know for sure you've never smoked crack. Once you've smoked it, you've got to assume that someone was witnessing that.

Maybe he didn't know for sure that he smoked crack. Put it on the poll. He was smoking crack. Put it on the poll, please. Once you've smoked crack, do you have to concede that it's probably on video somewhere? Maybe the video was an AI simulation. Well they could do that now, but that wouldn't have been something then. There wasn't a way for him to deny his way out of it.

The video was pretty obvious. But you can deny, if you know you've never smoked crack, you can deny a video of yourself if you know you've never smoked it because then it could be AI, it could be they put your face on someone's body. That was what was great about his denial wasn't, hey Mayor, you were smoking crack on video. His denial was there's no video This is this is what David Sampson is objecting to from a Barry Jackson article in 2018 Perry Hill would call up the official scorer during games to try to get errors taken away from his infielders to add Erden runs to his own pitchers so he could look better as an infield coach. That was the accusation that Sampson made at Perry Hills at Perry Hills resume.

It's not an accusation. That's a fact. Oh, you should go to find out Pablo Torre to go find an official score at pro player. That's a fact. I mean, you know, and listen is what it is. Isn't that like pitching coaches do that for pitchers, infielders? Like isn't everybody kind of doing that You don't call the official score during the game. What a waste of Pablo Torres time. What were you saying Cody David?

You should go to Perry Hills Funeral give the eulogy and and just let all this out in the eulogy Yes, because you are taking out a man who has had a pristine reputation Not taking him out Dan Dan, stop with that. The parting shot would be yours. That's fine. I'm not saying anything that has not been said or felt or heard by people of work.

I'm gonna make a documentary about what it is you've done here today. You have taken out Perry Hill, and you did so making this sound, by the way, which isn't something we've ever heard before in the history of the show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what is that? What is that?

We asked you about Perry Hill, and this is you, professional broadcaster David Sampson. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds like AI. No, that was you. You can hear the game show music underneath it. No, that was you. Earlier in the show, you were reacting to something.

I think you, I thought you were reacting to Mike Ryan asking you if you would go to Perry Hill's funeral funeral and it was so obvious to you that you wouldn't that before you said no, I think you did this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Parting shot with Marge Schott. Real or fake? There weren't podcasts when she was alive. Mike, Mike, that's terrible. That's good.

Then that's not good. Good one, Mike. No, that's not good. That's good. Then that's not good. Good one, Mike. No, that's not good. Yeah, that's great. Parting shot with Martin Schott has been dead for 20 years. She was dead before podcasts. Like, what? She would have a lot to say right now.

Oh my God. It would have been called I'm on a Heater. David, thank you for playing all of our games with us. Nothing Personal is the name of the podcast. Stan Van In and Stan Van Out is the exclusive domain copywritten by David Sampson, so don't anybody try to take it. It's all his.

Thank you, David. Good talking to you. Take care. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you guys find where it is? He said that I love him denying it. Like is it we could create that? This is AI as if we're that creative. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is not smoke crack. That is the way that a cartoon rooster dies if you taser it. Oh, yeah.

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