The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Oat Creamer and Strawberry Lemongrass Water

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

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Proximo. Cuervo.com. Please drink responsibly. Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries. That if they're just there, that hasn't happened to you guys.

I've done it. And now here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan LeBittard show is two gots is presented by DraftKings. to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan LeBattard Show with Stu Gotts is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I'm realizing in sinking into the sewage that is looking at that photo and being terribly embarrassed, I am now remembering that Mike Ryan was taking me to that big popular race so that I could move and shake with hugely important people. That's how I dressed to be like hobnobbing in the most exclusive of areas with the celebrities because Mike Ryan wanted to show everybody how Dan LeBittard would look post ESPN and

that's how he looked, ladies and gentlemen. We showed him. Yeah, I think Mike needs to take a little ownership of his admiring finger pointed at Tyreek Hill. Like, look at this. That's not Tyreek Hill, okay. Oh my God, all right, no, don't say it's your eyesight. I don't have my glasses on.

Don't say it's your eyesight. I don't have my glasses on. Okay, get out of here. There was no photo. I'm gonna let you in for life. Just out. Out. Out. Jesus. No, don't make it your glasses. No, no, it is my glasses. Don't make it your glasses. You weren't listening either earlier in the show. Get out! What was said? That Tyreke Hill photo wasn't put out publicly. You need to get out. Oh wow, I think it should be.

I'll track it down and put it out. You should break it. Mike, you should link it to him. I'm trying to see if it was ever on my phone. Random evidence of a cluttered blog item. Is that thing still around? No. Aw, what a run.

When did that die? I think it died. Like eight years ago probably. I think when he started on the podcast time, he went from, now he does podcasts. Chris, you are so disrespectful to knowledge about your father's career. I know of it.

I've seen of it. You thought it was still here I'm not out here. Hi. I look okay. I have found more photos of very clearly the SNL guy though That was cool cuz he was like looking at a colleague these guys wait a minute and now he would be the way It's are there but can you guys? and looking at all these guys. And now he would be the biggest star there. But can you guys, can you guys please, like what you're doing is really offensive.

You say the SNL guy, not only is he good, he's the one who did Immigrant Dad with Chappelle. He's representing Miami in Young Comedy, and he has a name, but I don't know it, and we're being really disrespectful by not knowing it. Like this is a person in Miami who should matter to people as a funny person, funny person bringing Hispanic humor to SNL,

and back then he was just a young man looking up to his hero who was dressed that way. He's wearing a Levo hat in this photo too, he was a big fan. We should have him on, Dan. Is that Daniel Tosh? Has to be, it's not. Wait, there's a comedian from Miami

that we haven't had on the show that's on SNL that went to the same high school as Billy? That likes Dan? Yeah, and he used to respect me, and I dressed that way. And there's photographic proof forever, because the internet is forever. I'm trying to get the video team to put up side by side what I wore that day and what you wore that day, because, Dan, it's difficult to dress stylishly when it's a hundred and six degrees with the heat index

I feel you but there's a way to do it and Unfortunately, you failed. Yeah, I didn't know how to do it and I am embarrassed by the yellow Dan That's that's what you were looking for. That's what you needed to wear top to bottom. Elo just everywhere. That looks good Yeah, thank you. And it looks also like you wouldn't be- I was on ABC in that outfit. That also looks like it wouldn't be 100,000 degrees sweating through stuff fabric. Yes. I'll teach you some pointers.

Well my wife has. F1's back in Miami in three weeks. I'm embarrassed. Well, we've been invited to be out there, Jess. I asked about this. Do we know if Kristen has done anything? It seems like a very loud place to try to do this show. It seems like that would not be a great listening experience.

Not pun intended. I think the wheels are in motion for F1 Miami this year, Dan. For us to do some stuff with them? Yes. And now that I think about it, you started changing your personal style not too far after this photo was on the internet. Are those two things connected? Well, no, what is connected to this, and I can't help It's not too far after this photo was on the internet.

Are those two things connected? Well, no, what is connected to this, and I can't help but see it in all the photos and all of the stress in my face and the fat, and this is when my brother was dying, right? So, like, I'm wearing it, and so I'm trying to wear a disguise. It's Lebo's fault.

Well, and that's the worst. Chris was trying to blame Valerie back here, so. And your shirt has a collar on it And you're just learning that and the hat that I had on is the worst of my brother's hat So I'm also embarrassed by that, but it's like you did a hat swap there because you were getting along so well with Marcella Jersey swap, but a hat swaps like it's like that meme in Vegas these guys partied so hard they switched button down So I love that meme still showing the water to show how healthy you are, like my dad pointed out before. I'm so committed to the rock fingers, too.

I'm just going to do the rock horns all day, all right? There's also tequila in that bottle. Let's not be honest. Mike, I don't know anything about style, but like, and I'm sure that your style was a good one. I came over from officiating intramurals earlier. Beetlejuice. Actually, that's a great point, Mike.

We've retired that shirt since, right? It might get back in the rotation, I've lost weight. Were you wearing a blousy shirt too? No, that wasn't blousy at the time. Because that was my blousiest. I feel that sucker out. Look, I know Chris and his dad wore some of those shirts on that cruise.

That was dinner. Whenever mom wants one night out We're going to the damn cruise ship restaurant and you boys are gonna dress up. I am Certain that Chris Cody brought out one of the rumpled blousey shirts that fat man everywhere can identify with Where'd my dad go? I just realized that. It's the- He got kicked out. It's the penalty box. Does he not know how this works? He's just chilling watching the show.

Does he not know that the penalty box, two minutes for lying, how does he not know how the show works? How, what does he, please explain to me. Producer, son, explain to me what happened with your father that he doesn't know a two-minute penalty for lying and for making the mistake that two black men looked alike

when they did. I wasn't wearing my glasses, which I now have on. By the way, my favorite part of the segment that I missed was you uttering the phrase, the worst of my favorite part of the segment that I missed was you uttering the phrase the worst of my brother's hats. What's wrong with that hat? Why is it the worst of your brother's hats? It's ill-fitting.

It is a material that I don't like like others. Did you hit the hookah during the break? What happened to your voice? I mean, I'm out of water here. I can't get a water in this place. There's no bottled water. You got to drink it out of a tap. Greg, there you go.

That's because your generation just pillaged the Earth of all of its natural resources. We're trying to save it. One saved plastic bottle at a time, Greg. I'm in favor of that. Soon have less fluoride. You're in favor of plastic. No, I'm in favor of water.

You know, it's called the chemical, but it's a mineral. Mike, I want you to assemble the MetalArc team to do two things here, OK? And I want you live to do this with Greg Cody. I want to do this right now. I'd like a camera to follow our beloved fossil into the kitchen to see if he can find how to make his own water. I just want you guys to go with him to see if,

he just said it's hard to get water when he's been sitting, not in the penalty box for seven minutes, right next to water. That could not be easier to get. I'd like a cat. With tap water. I'd like, no, please. Oh wow, all right.

So normally I would say, of course he knows how to get water here, but he stayed at this hotel yesterday and had no idea how to get to our studio. Greg, let's do this. There's no buttons on the elevator. I don't need to have a live cam, we have enough cameras in place, so like,

Greg, go bring back water, but I wanna do this as a test real quick, because yes, Jess is right, because your generation pillaged the earth, and we're trying not to have plastic all over the place, and you say it's impossible to get a water in this place, when I don't think there's anything more abundant in there than water. Hey, be careful, you're in the same generation.

Okay, but I know how to get water. That's true. I know how to get tap water. Good job, Dan. Let's follow him, let's follow him let's follow greg cody even though this is visual but i also before you do this i want an explanation you get penalized for two minutes

there's a penalty box that is a visual accompaniment and aid to you sitting in the penalty box they put jokes behind you that is where content is made you don't know these things why did you go to another room and then just sit there no reason why are you not wearing your headphones right now when you were about to send me out to get water and then you go on a tangent you're going down a side street here Chris why the voice Chris he's the one agitating me Chris why is your father they they just, I, please, I'll, You can stop it there, I don't know.

I will move on with the show in a moment. That Luka Donsich story is a cool one. Great story. I just want to understand, someone who's trying to help us do the show, I send him to the penalty box. He wanders out and then sits on a couch for 10 minutes and watches our show.

Yeah. Watches us work. Yeah, good segment. No, I enjoyed it. Was Stugatz out there? Where is Stugatz? I did not see him. That's a mystery to be solved.

TBS. Go get water. Mike, can we get an update? Go get water and let me get to this Lucas story. Thank you. I'm sorry to our audience that this has been this discombobulated. I really don't know where Stugatz went. And I'm confused.

Let's reset, call yourself a c***y again. I co-host. Stove for Stove Top. Let's try to hold the mic for him, guys, so that he can just be in his element trying to get water. Yeah, just keep the camera on him and don't give him anything other than a microphone.

I'd like some play-by-play from him on just how he intends to get water. And you guys have heard him several times say he'll just go to the sink and get tap water, right? I wish we were doing this on April 1st so he could have gotten got by the bevy April Fools jokes, Chris. Yeah, he's the worst.

All right, dad, if you can hear us right now, start getting water. Show us your process to get water at the studio. Greg, hold the microphone, please. Just hold your own microphone and be a professional broadcaster, please. Yeah, okay. First of all, I'm looking for bottled water.

I don't see any. I see oat creamer. Can't see Rose at all. Baby. Oat creamer. Can't see rose at all. Baby. Oat creamer. Ridiculous. I see Coke, Sprite, Miller Lite. That's tempting.

Goat milk. Oat milk, what is it? Half and half. Yeah, we don't need to read every item. You don't need to read every item. There's no water in here. There's a tequila that invented tequila. All right, so look around. Now, if you were by yourself. I'm completely right. If you had to read every other. There's no water in here. There's a tequila that invented tequila. So look around.

Now, if you were by yourself. I'm completely right. If you had to get water now. I mean, there's tap water, like I said. All right, can we hold on just for a second? Just for a second. That was not warm. Lewis, do me a favor.

No ice cubes in here either. Greg, stop moving. Just stop moving. Lewis, please turn off. I don't want him to be able to hear what I'm about to say next so that I can lead him around the room. I got it.

Just simply take off your headphones. No, no, no, I turned it off. All right, cool. He should not be able to hear me now. The thing that I just wanna tell the room here, do you guys think that he knows that the machine next to the fridge is something that dispenses water? Yeah. You think he knows this? No, he was saying that he was sitting up right next to it. is something that dispense that dispenses water. Yeah. Yeah.

He knows this. No, he was saying that he was setting up. He doesn't drink water though. Yeah, I'm surprised he's actually drinking water now. He's like a lizard. Yeah, he doesn't drink water. All his fluids. It's only coffee. It's coffee and beer. Yeah. All right. So he's drinking the tap water. Oh my god. Oh my god. What are you doing, Greg? Is the tap water in Miami not safe? No tap water safe Should I can I turn it back on so he can hear us? Generation already has lead poisoning also to be fair. So hold on. He's back in the fridge We asked where he always goes still no water

You can't not go to the we need him to be we need him to get out of the fridge Because he doesn't know he's in a dangerous space and he does down at the fridge because he doesn't know. He's in a dangerous space and he doesn't know. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. Oh, okay. He's like, what is this contraption? All right, turn his ears on, turn his earphones on.

All right, he can hear us again. Okay. All right, Greg, what do you got? Give us a play by play. Well, this thing here, it's got, it's flavored sodas or something, cucumber, watermelon, strawberry, lemongrass but no water okay well what's your favorite flavor there no water so you think that's

a that's a soda dispenser yeah all right well I don't see you know how to work the soda dispenser take it for a walk no do I just press a button right what would you pick Greg just push strawberry lemongrass just out of lemon grass now is there any like He pushed it once Guidelines as hold to dispense but again no water, okay. What do you mean? That's water? to dispense but again no water okay what do you mean that's water well see lemon grass well yeah strawberry lemon grass pineapple butter turn off the lemongrass what do you think you get so wait this is such this is such a great thing Greg would you do me the favor please to just reading all

those flavors of not water even though it's the most delicious water the earth has ever known just read all of the flavors, please, one by one. Okay, strawberry sunshine, black cherry, coconut, cucumber, key lime, lemon, strawberry lemongrass, and watermelon. Key lime water. There's not more than that? That's all of them?

Look at the top, though. I mean, it says sparkling, light sparkling, cold, ambient, hot. Who would drink hot water? People that want to make tea, for example. Look at the top though. I mean it says sparkling, light sparkling, cold, ambient, hot. Who would drink hot water? People that want to make tea, for example. Or oatmeal. Oat milk is more like it.

It's really not. Do you realize that, do you realize that, I'm not kidding you, do you understand? I need everyone to understand what was just witnessed, okay? We sent an old, we said to know We said what's Dan doing back there? Hey, this should accomplish so he got some water You know his water and he doesn't I don't think he knows exactly how to get just normal cold water from that thing

Nothing on this screen says the word water try to talk into your cup Okay Why am I by get yourself a normal water you guys are amazing in television? Metal arc has managed to clone me and now I am walking back behind Greg Goody watching him over there and I'm watching him from over here and I think the funniest part of all of that, beyond us fearing that he would say the wrong sponsor's name while looking into a fridge, you have to understand that what I just sent in there, dangerous and reckless, was a disc... Oh he's got it. You let a horse to water. It says watermelon. That's the only... dangerous and reckless was a disc...

Oh, he's got it. You led a horse to water. It says watermelon. That's the only, I said earlier water is not anywhere on the screen other than in the word watermelon. Just fix yourself a normal... I have to admit it does taste like water. Traditional glass, can you get yourself an unflavored glass of water?

Pour out the flavored water. Pour out the flavored water, walk back to the machine, get a glass of normal water. Surely there has to be water. Oh, he poured it back into the actual bevy machine, which you're not supposed to do. You can't do it. Of course, it's gotta drain.

I've got to drain. Wow, it says vitamin boost. Look at that. Take that for a walk. Okay, if I press sparkling, what do you think will happen? I don't know, if I press sparkling. What do you think will happen? Let's find out.

Only one way to find out, Chris. Is this cup in the right place? Is this good content? It's good water, I tell you that. Now how'd the water change? Ooh, that's too much sparkling. It might be too much vitamin. Let me go light sparkling.

Don't pour, don't keep pouring it. Why not? I mean, that's where he's gonna pour it guys. Thank you We're literally trying to teach an old dog new tricks. Okay, but again, we don't know this is water I'm gonna say it's mostly water. It's pretty good No, it's good Greg. It's the finest of water and what I love about everything. It's like Arnold Palmer on the course on Cook. That's great. Arnold Palmer. What a great interview I had with him years ago. I'd like to hear that.

He wouldn't let me go. He wouldn't let me go. Seriously. He was talking into the cup. Arnold Palmer wanted to be interviewed. Talking into the cup. He wanted to be interviewed Anyway, I'm out of material He was never actually able to pour himself a standard glass of water So I want to forgive me for beating this joke to death, but I can't imagine how strange it has to be to be a fossil from the 1800s, open a fridge and look into the future where

people just refuse to drink milk made by a cow. And so Greg's looking into the future as his fossilized self and saying, where's the good stuff around here? Where's the bottle of water? That's not good for the environment. It's recyclable. I'm sure you're gonna recycle that the way your son does on the way out when he throws it in the staircase. I recycle. Yeah, I'm sure you've taught him and I'm sure the Cody's do a lot of recycling with everything like that bottle.

We'll be very careful, both of them, to make sure that that bottle gets recycled. Christopher will tell you one of the first parental tips I ever gave my kids was don't litter. Which is why I left the cup inside because do gooding starts at the ground floor. You're such a little shit, Chris It's not littering. It's just it's inside Look, we're not doing this again. You put it on the you put it on a staircase You left the Starbucks plastic cup on a staircase as trash a new staircase that didn't have any trash Not even an old Miami staircase because you couldn't be bothered to put it in a trash can.

A lot of dust for a new staircase. You threw your gar- you littered on- Littering. On our offices. Litter bug. At some point it became a science experiment. It did. It started growing stuff.

There was like mold and things coming out of it. And then Chris kicked it over. Chris, would you get me a list please,, quickly of top five tips your father has given you over your lifetime? Because that one you flagrantly disobey. Yeah, it violates. You are not someone who has actually learned the few things your father has to teach.

I don't litter. Well, we have proof. You're the only one we have proof of in the history of this office. You're the single employee that we have proof does litter. The cop had your name on it. Yep. Like it can't be more, like it's not,

I'm not a detective here. This was you, you did not do the crime in a way that was anonymous. Like we knew it was you, we spotted you, you came back from a vacation, we all called you on it. You've been proven guilty here. There's no room to maneuver. I could have left it outside.

Could have walked out that door and thrown it on the street. Who does that? Or there's a public garbage can outside. There is no garbage can down there. There's a garbage can in our office. Yeah, but not in that stairwell. That's the other thing. He took seven steps from the garbage can.

Like that's the other thing about it. He literally had to pass the garbage can on his way to the stairwell. That's correct. He had a little more ice in the cup. That door is locked. Like, if I walk back up, I got a knock on it to get back in. Like, I'm just like, I'll leave this here.

I'll get it in a day or two. In fairness, there should be a garbage can in every stairwell. There we go. They're really sure. You walk into a public garage in Bayside, surely there's a garbage can. Like, surely.

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Now? This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. Luca Doncic and that story last night. A superstar making a basket with tears in his eyes. Regular season game, regular season doesn't matter. Regular season is stupid. Who cares? What I saw last night, the power of sports, the power of the story, is two human beings

who probably care a great deal about being great at basketball Anthony Davis and Luka Doncic both of them enjoying in the middle of like all our humanity the story that shocked us all so much hey let's check out that regular season game I want to see what Luka has to do in his return to Dallas will Dallas behave will we chant at Nico oh this is a fun story. Remember where you were when everyone was shocked because what? Luke has been traded? Now, the humanity of this, making Dallas fans miss what they had because he has his best game as a Laker.

Like the coolest game as a Laker. The game, Luca will not play many games the remainder of his career that feel the way that that one do. Luca will not play many games the remainder of his career that feel the way that that one do. Maybe, maybe not ever will he play a game that feels the way that one does. Because a couple months ago, we were all shocked.

Now imagine how that shock lands on the two principals, Anthony Davis and Luca Doncic. Like we were all shocked, we're gonna tune in two months later to be like, or however many weeks later, how's this gonna affect them? And Anthony Davis, one of the greatest basketball players I've ever had the pleasure of watching, you can make fun of him if you want,

he's injured all the time, or whatever, one of the 50 best I've ever seen, reduced to the size of a postage stamp with the size of the night, and however it must have hurt if LeBron did indeed lie to him, but I didn't know anything. Thanks for helping me the last few years. I'm going to go the rest of the way with someone better than you because business baby is hard. Maybe I lied to you, maybe I didn't, but Anthony Davis probably hurt somewhere in there because there's a human being in there. But the Luca human being, this one was so interesting to me, I'm not going

to say this league is plagued by foreigners being greater at basketball than Americans are, but when people are coming over from other countries and trying to sell their personality to us in their second language, some of them, like Janis, can do it and fight through it. Jokic doesn't seem to care too much about it. This guy we don't actually know in any meaningful way, except like, holy shit, that's great at basketball. Now, Dallas knows him. Dallas feels like it knows him because they have more of those little interviews and the little personality and they know the reporting and they care. But the world knows Luka Doncish but doesn't

really know him. Dallas knows him and Dallas has a relationship with him and that relationship was shocked. Shocked in a way that people will not forget. Mark Cuban, brave and bold. I never would have done that, backing away from it, because Mark Cuban knows, oh, that's the power of sports.

That's the power of connection. Oh, look, a regular season game. A guy does care because the fans all that's the power of sports that's the power of connection all look a regular season game a guy does care because the fans of both them with the video after you know the heat made that video real quick for jimmy butler was gonna be longer than that there's like not on a shorter net let's cut that out let's get it out real quick dallas moved luca last night and he makes a basket wiping tears from his

eyes are you shitting me you're gonna tell me these guys don't care he's too fat he's lazy he got that good fat and lazy that was a moment you're right i didn't see a live i've seen it on replay two or three times and that that is the power of sports and and the dallas fans should be proud of themselves for the reaction they gave to him which moved him to okay but it's not just the power of sports forgive me for a second it's the power of stories and it's hard to tell him in your second language

right like what's happening in that league with the greatness as people say i don't like your kids style with you you talking about what you're talking about it's the most unstoppable thing that you've ever seen offensively, unless it's Luka. And these guys are distorting the sport, but at this moment,

you've seen this guy play a ton of basketball. You know he cares. You've seen him emotional. You've seen him celebrate himself. You haven't seen him move to tears in a way that's just totally human. Totally human in that sport where nobody's moved to tears. You gotta be tougher than everybody else.

You have to be physically stronger. Easy, it's basketball. Stop. You're tougher than everybody else. Mr. NASCAR over here. Come on. Mr. Every other sport. Yeah.

Watch some hoops, buddy. How about you watch some hoops? Last night was a where were you moment. I did watch it. I was on my couch. Inter Miami had the main screen. Luca, in his return, had top left. Macklin Celebrini versus the thrill Caprizov

had the other screen on mute. By the way, Macklin had a hat trick. It's going to be a top five player point. Last night was a where were you game. It was. It was a where were you game. No, no, itlin had a hat trick. It's gonna be a top five player point. Last night was a where were you game? It was. It was a moment in time. Where were you? I was at home watching the game.

I made sure that the audio was on for the tribute and the start of it to hear Fire Nico and all the Luca chants. It was. It's one of the few, that sport, as we've covered for years now, has a regular season problem. It's not often where there's a regular season game that feels like you actually have to watch they pulled that off

It took the dumbest trade in the history of the sport to do that to draw my eyes to it But yeah, I was there I was locked in for it and then got put on mute because you know There's another pretty great athlete in a sport that you might actually have to be tougher and physically in soccer That's right soccer. You have to be tougher. This is a basketball segment, hold on, hold on. So if I put you, all the players in the NBA, and I give you a choice, what player would give that emotion with a trade, with leaving,

with coming back? Dallas and Luka had a special relationship where the only thing we've really seen to that degree is when Clay came back to Golden State where they had a very big celebration for him. There were the captain clay hats. Like it was a very happy thing. What other player had draws that kind of emotion? I remember when Dwight came back to Orlando for the first time when that wasn't

aware. Where were you moment? What do you remember? The, I do remember. Wasn't the whole like loyalty, like play that Dwight Howard, he just happens to remember where he was. It's different. Oh, it was probably at home. It was probably at home. OK, Vince's return to Toronto, there have been big returns where everyone's kind of locked in,

where you know there will be a vocal crowd. There's emotion attached, be it positive or negative. There are moments like that. It's not often, especially with a, I mean, Lucas in his prime, it's... Let's clarify, it's a where were you moment for fans of the NBA. Correct.

Yeah, I don't think I'll remember exactly where I was. I'll remember that I watched it. I've got a top five of where were you moments in the NBA. You guys want it? Is this on the top five? Ooh, I want to find out. I remember where I was when Dwayne Wade returned to Miami. We don't like to talk about it.

Could make it, could not, I don't know. Dan, you want the top five? I'm not surewayne Wade returned to Miami. We don't like to talk about it. Could make it, could not. I don't know. Dan, you want the top five? I'm not sure if I want that top five. I need to think about this for a second, because if we're going to rank that in terms of moments, I will say that Luke is going to have a career with an unfathomable number of moments,

and he will never forget that one. That will be very high. Making a basket with tears in your eyes, showing America more of yourself than you've ever shown in a game we were all watching is the power of stories. It's not just the power of sports. Like this sport has been great at trafficking in the stories

as we don't care about regular season basketball. Introducing us to stars who have revealed themselves to us more than the guys in football more than it more we the NBA to the degree that it has been altered by these physical freaks who have totally changed the way the sport is played and makes it more majestic athletically than it's ever been like it's crazy when when I tell you that Steph Curry might as well be doing all of that on an actual magic carpet and That he's doing it among Giants like Yanis and Jokic the whole thing is absurd and this player

Stan Van Gundy says the best offensive player ever Hasn't been so with the Lakers try and figure it out LeBron, the smartest player in the history of the league. How do I figure out how this fits and stop going six for 19 from the floor and one for seven from three, which is the stat line. It was weird to see the stat lines. Then he has his best game going back emotionally to Dallas. Like has a game where you're like,

oh, that's what it's gonna look like for the Lakers for 10 years as soon as LeBron leaves, if he doesn't get fat. It's an incredible moment. I can't even imagine what the tickets were going for. Although if I had the Game Time app, I'd probably know. That's right. This was the hottest ticket in town in Dallas, I assume.

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was that it changed everyone's perception about Luca. It humanized him. It made him likable. He's no- What are you doing with Luca? No, no, no. When was he not likable? I'm with Greg. He's always been likable though. I've always liked him,

but there aren't many connection points. And that was like, that was Luca connecting to an audience in a profound way that we hadn't quite experienced if you just followed the sport. But I feel like we got that, like his interview with the Lakers the week after he was traded. I agree with Chris.

I was sad. I think like the entire trade week was pretty heartbreaking and we saw this level of emotion from him then. So to see him come back, I think it adds weight because we already know how meaningful the city was to him and how he was really just taken aback and stunned by the trade. So when he came back, they played the video for him.

He was emotional and then he ended up having a fantastic game. He played great, the Lakers won. And I think it just sort of like, at least in this season, solidified what an insane move this was for Dallas to make. I think the other thing too is the sport moves fast, but he was single-handedly brought them

to the NBA finals last year too. Like that was his real like coming on. I was like, all right, this is Luca. This is a guy who can drag a team in Dallas who nobody thought would make it to the NBA finals to the NBA finals. Oh, not just, no, just so you know, the most surprised I was last year

is when Dallas got past OKC because I thought what OKC is this year is what they were about to become last year and Lucas would stop that. OKC goes to Dallas, loses game six. I thought OKC, I'm like, OKC is this year is what they were about to become last year and Lucas would stop that. OKC goes to Dallas loses game six. I thought OKC, I'm like OKC is better. Oh no, Lucas is better. Lucas, Lucas more experienced even though he's young too. The thing that I found most interesting about all of this though in the center of it, the core of it, we were shocked when it happened because they traded the player.

Luca and those fans are shocked because they traded that relationship. Like that's the thing. It's not just, oh Seismic is a transaction lacking the humanity where all of us are like, oh, holy shit. But what you tore apart when you tore that guy from that fan base disrespects the relationship. It disrespects what a sports icon can be in a community. And so the tears in his eyes, like, it's just the most human of how it is that you arrive at our international game being global when the guy in his second language shows you more with the tears in his eyes than he ever has in an interview. I think the other thing too is Dallas having the history

and the legacy of Dirk being there for 21 years. Dirk being the flag bearer for the Dallas Mavericks and for that city for so long, never going to another team. Like being the international face of basketball for a long time, Luca was supposed to be that next step of the generation. He was gonna be there his entire career and it just felt like that was the lineage

that all of a sudden, Nico Harris was like, eh, we'll send you to LA for scraps. What were the best parts and where it is that you guys enjoy the drama of Nico and the drama of just, we're tuning in for the theater, right, like the only things that matter about that game, the only things are, there's one thing on the marquee, how does Luca do?

And the second thing, a far distant one, and I'm telling you, it had to be hard to be him last night. Anthony Davis, off in the corner in the shadows, is like a small thing that was crushed by that. Like that man's career has been a really good career and he's mocked, is always injured, and whatever else you say about him. And I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in there, Anthony Davis doesn't actually become the player we ever expect him to because we disrespect these relationships when we just trade guys like this.

Dan, as a question, the Anthony Davis thing, like is he not the exact player that we thought he was going to be? Like he's won a title. He's been an incredible player at NBA All-Star, All-Star First Team. He is who we thought he was going to be. I thought he would be a little bit better. But I mean, he delivered on. He delivered, no doubt.

He's a 10-time All-Star. He's already incredible. He was a great player. He won them a championship by all of a sudden shooting like Ray Allen inside a bubble. I mean, no, he had a great moment that'll be remembered uniquely because of the bubble, but no, he's a great player.

But he was like a diss in third in terms of storylines. Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't he already have like, the Mavs had played in LA. Yeah, the Mavs played in LA. He had his moment. This was all about Luca, and then second place was Nico Harrison. Oh yeah.

And the job that the director had to do in trying to track down Nico, who was hiding from the cameras, who was shielding himself with other people blocking his view, which was obstructed, but he still had to be out there, as chance rained down continually. It's not just unique to that Luca return game.

It's been going on all season. Hell, it's been going on at Medieval Times, fire Nico. Which still tickles me. The thing that got me, Dan, it wasn't anything that happened on the court. It was, well, I guess it did technically happen on the court. It was his interview after the game where he was like, I get to sleep in my bed tonight.

I was like, oh, my chest. The stakes that we put on all of this stuff, I don't know if anyone is going to, I don't know, do people feel bad for Nico or is he just punchline? As like a human being, like yeah, it would be terrible to have an entire city hate me because you did something that you probably are, I'm assuming second guessing at least to some degree

and maybe if it does turn out that you did maybe the right thing, it won't be for like six years. And also you still probably could have gotten more for it. And let's just say there is a scenario here where Nico has taken all the heat for something ownership decided. Like he doesn't make that move without ownership feeling strongly about this.

That is a move that you have to have your convictions about. And Nico is like taking the entire brunt of it as a new ownership group, which follows a very popular owner, just kind of lets Nikko out to dry in this scenario. I think it was more Nikko than anything else. I think the Dumont family and the Addison family have kind of let him do his thing. He's had trades that have worked out in the past.

But this one, they were like, all right, are you sure? Are you sure? But my point is, even if that's not the case, we wouldn't know. And yeah, there's a case that he should just be wearing a hot dog costume the entire time because he's the person that did this. Can we just for a second though,

because surely you guys find this part of it interesting, I would think. In the construct of where sports teams connect to their regions and what it means to be a sports owner, Mark Cuban was a sports owner who not only loved basketball, but also understood how rare and valuable it is to have a star like that who already has a relationship with your city.

So you go from that owner to Mark Cuban, one of the most powerful, richest men in the world in today's America, getting swallowed by an ownership group that's very different and is not going to respect that relationship or anything about it that way. Hey, Nico, you're in charge. charge all right go down there and just do whatever has to be done to like let's make this a little what he's it too much hookah okay get him out of here he's been drinking beer what yeah no he's he's a top five player all the time offensively and Stan Van Gunn he says the best he's ever seen offensively and he's 25 years old and you need to have that for 10 years yeah

just trade that and now new ownership does what it really wildly disrespects the previous relationship blasphemes against it and feels like it doesn't care about its customers so you get protests in the street and also I wasn't saying this but some people were saying Mark Cuban hugging him on the court after the game was a little look at me, Louie. I'm not saying that though. Why? Why wouldn't you say that?

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