The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Pablo Torre Is Athletic

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

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No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum Points on your first five orders. Shop now at NoFrills.ca. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. It's time to celebrate. Too often, things happen that are negative, that cause you, Hawk, to say, we're teammates, whether you like it or not. We're teammates.

And we have another teammate. Do you know that Pablo is your teammate? Pablo, yes, I do know Pablo's my teammate. And he wins awards. So many. Lots of awards. Lots of awards. Because his show's good.

And today's the day. Damn. Metal arc, metal arc media. All of us in this room should be taking a victory lap for Pablo Torre finds out because metal arc and Pablo have licensed their show to the Athletic. Wow. This is a major bit of news.

Congratulations, Pablo. That's big. Now, the reason why it's big, well, there are myriad reasons, but the number one reason is that Pablo gets to continue to find out stuff and he gets to do it, not just as part of Metal Arc, but as part of the Athletic.

And it's a licensing deal where there is synergy. There's connectivity between a brand like the Athletic and a brand like Pablo Torre finds out and a brand like Metal Arc. And now it's to the moon with Pablo, who we can all admit is on a heater. The type of heater that you don't see very often. Can you explain licensing to the audience?

I feel like that's something you get excited about. It means that, for example, you don't own nothing personal. But I license nothing personal to Dan Lebatard so he can show it as part of his network. For a fee. Oh yeah. Okay, that's business, baby. Well, it's always good.

You should know this if you're doing your own stuff. Hawk. Yeah, no absolutely. Own your stuff. Own my stuff, got it. A word to the wise people. So am I technically licensed to Metal Arch right now? No. No. No, not at all.

What am I? You are an employee. Kind of. You are on a show that is licensed to DraftKick. Got it. Yeah. What am I? Let's do this. My turn. What am I? Let's do this. My turn. Where's he licensed?

You're in a unique spot, but you're a part of a show that is licensed. Bottom left. You are neither nor, but we are so honored to have you with us, that to me you're part of the team, no matter the label, because to me it's not about the wine,

it's about the label. All right. Is it better to be licensed than hired? That depends on how you feel about insurance and how you feel about being an employee and how you feel about intellectual property. And how you feel about the ceiling of what the thing that you have is, your own talent.

I couldn't, for example, wear this outfit as an employee, but as a licensor, oh, I can wear whatever I please. I am my own boss. That's exactly right. You pay for what I decide you get. And so, Paul Latorre, and Paul Latorre finds out, now there's nothing in the license agreement, from what I understand, that changes anything about PTFL.

We can still wear Mr. Rogers' sweater. He can still be with us, and he will be with us later this week. He can still find out stuff, but now he's got the full faith and credit of the United States of the athletic. Yes. That's, we should all be subscribers.

Yeah, like an Adrian Beltre contract here, no? It was a very good thing for us Yeah, and for him now, do you know who that is? Give me that give me that analogy. He's a really hammer. Did he have a really big rookie season? Adrian Beltrae would always have his biggest Years when he was up. Yeah Reagent years. It's so you sign a three-year contract You're one and two would suck, year three would be insane, and then you'd get paid again, and then year one and two,

and then again, it was awesome. What happened there, is that just like an effort thing? Well he's a Hall of Famer, I think it's more of a clink-a-dink, but yeah. So I always- Is baseball so random that there has to be some randomness there as well? We were negotiating, we were looking at Adrian Beltre,

and guess how many years we were willing to offer him 100 one one one Between yes, and the gas. I don't I don't mind. He knows how to play this one. What what what that's what's wrong with that gas Nothing's wrong with that stupidest guess I've ever alright. That's that's yours. No guess is stupid 100-year contract I've LeBron really like 100 year contract with Nike. Panthers just gave Marshawn one. Lifetime, feels like it, it's six,

because he's really old, it was a joke. Low annual payment over 100 years. Yeah. Do you remember the Magic Johnson contract of 25 years, 25 million? It was a Sports Illustrated cover when it happened. The biggest news ever ever because there was someone getting 25 million, maybe Mike is totally remembering this.

And it was almost impossible to believe. And then of course. What year was this really quick? I'm gonna have to say 84 is my guess. Okay, now let's do the average age of everybody else on this show in the year 1984. But do you know what Pearl year 1984. I'm negative. Harbor was? I'm negative two.

Negative three. Negative three. Negative three. Mike? In 84? I'm 1985. Negative one. Negative one.

Tony? I think I was minus seven or eight. Minus seven? I was three. Three. Okay, so we're looking at, I don't want to do the average, but it's probably like a negative 1.5. But if you're not heard of things before you were born, it's very strange what you're saying to me

No, I have but not the 25 million dollar for 25 year contract I got that would get pushed down so low and the things to know about before you were born like Pearl Harbor is a little different than Magic Johnson's first 25 it was as big a story as for a hopper. It was not as big a story as Pearl Harbor 25 million dollars Not as big a story as I like you man When FDR said a date that will live in infamy he was not talking about When FDR said a date that will live in infamy he was not talking about

Definitely not you can put that on the pole for a 16 year old juju Are you telling me that magic Johnson signing for 25 years a 16 year old in 1984? That's not For an aspiring team president that would love to cut wages, I imagine it was close to it for you. Yeah, it probably, he's probably not lying. That's why it's hilarious. That was your Waterloo, perhaps. Nice Google. What is the year of that contract, please?

1981 is when it was supposed to start at adjusted for 1984. They would have been paying him that 25-year contract to 09-10 season for the Lakers. And Adrian Beltre did indeed have his two best seasons in contract years. So he's a Hall of Famer. He was just in the Cooperstown in the Hall of Fame and he looks great.

He is doing very, very well. The point is that there are some people that massively over-perform. Carlos Beltran had an amazing playoffs for the New York Metropolitan's in what I assume was 06. And then got a way overvalued contract. Or he had it for the Astros and then signed with the Mets. He was one of them.

So Pablo has had an amazing summer if you've been paying attention. I have, but is he a free agent? The show was a free agent. It was a free agent signing. So he basically was a free agent, signed a one year deal. Well, terms have not been disclosed.

No, not the terms, but I'm like, the equivalent in sports would be like a basically prove it year contract, and he goes and has a Joe Flacco type Super Bowl run. Just think about it. Think, he took down a whole, he took down the union. Yeah, and I know that's a big deal for you as a former team president.

You like, you talk about, you're talking about Breeze on a dong man. That is, you're talking about the Snoopy dance. Yeah I get it. My tail was wagging, my dong was wagging. I get it. It was all good. I don't think he's done there either. That's the cool thing. What was wagging? Everything. Tail, front, back. My dong, the whole package. You said that you did the Snoopy dance yesterday in the elevator as well. Can we see what the snoopy dance? Yeah, like cuz I don't know what I do It's you've never you've you're not done the stupid. I just like like peanuts. No, it's just when you do a little okay I'm uncomfortable Very few times I've ever been in the studio for the audio audience like a hula hoop kind of motion. Yeah It does it two feet away with eye contact. Yeah, it feels like HR should be involved. We don't have that here

Sorry, yeah, so nice try your life. Hopefully this license deal that Pablo does with the athletic metal art can afford HR because he just looked me in my eyes and Did the Snoopy dance which I'd never seen for that moment Are you are you making an official complaint Cause I have a phone number for you. And it better not be that number to get scores that you gave earlier. No, it's 631-377-LMA. Cause then he gaslit me to say, no.

So Pablo has had an incredible year. What a show, what a show. Did you know it would be this big when you knew that Pablo was doing Pablo Finds Out? Let's take a poll here, just in the room. Did you guys know it would be this big? I don't think, pause. I know, I don't think so because it really,

I didn't think it would grow to the point that it would forever change the NFLPA or find a way to get, I think pretty clearly, under the skin of Bill Belichick in ways that the media has never done that. I think he, historic. He had an incredible summer Yeah, yeah, I wonder if he thought it would be that like this huge

We were there when it started he became a time magazine top 100 podcasts of all time in the span of a couple of weeks That's crazy. That was a crazy Liz him and the tennis podcast He can't go back though either though now Let's talk about like where he goes from here because Cause some of the things were like very fun topics. You think he peeked? Not that he peeked, I don't think there's no way, he's not close to peeking, but like. How does he go back to you know,

investigating Stuffed Crust Pizza? Yes, exactly. Like how do you go there now? I don't think you can. That's the beauty of his show actually. When you take the serious stuff stupidly and the stupid stuff seriously, you can still do shows where you're talking about,

hey, let's find out what's inside a stuffed crust pizza, and then you can still do a show where you unearth some massive thing, like the gambling scandals or Malik or what happens with Bill Balachek, and I wouldn't have gone. The only thing I said to him. I think you're gonna have to feed the beast,

which is a great thing. I don't, I, look, I'm not going off of much here, but I do happen to know. He happens to know? Great Scott, he happens to know! He happens to know. Gather everyone! Get the children! He happens to know! So wise.

Pablo Torrey's working on some stuff. Oh man. Wow. Yeah, Pablo Torrey's working on some stuff. I think the brilliance on Metalork's part is baked into the business plan is Pablo's own ego. Because Pablo, the way his brain works, he doesn't go from seeing his name in headlines and getting all this adulation,

being like, I'm satisfied with that. He wants more of it. It's actually, like, that arrow's always gonna be pointing up. He's always gonna want more attention. More blood. Oh my God, he knows. He happens to know. Come more blood. Oh my god. He knows

Come everyone come and listen He happens to know Well informed What's more blood blood is just blood is just paint to Pablo Cody's so handsome Is that an HR thing? That's too. I think there's a thing. I'm getting to know you more and more. I just, I'm trying to be complimentary. As you get comfortable. I'm just trying to call him as I see him. Felt so out of left field though that it's sarcastic. Yeah. Oh no. I just saw a great fun video thing and I get to look at you through the glass. I'll allow it. Thank you. Sleep isn't just rest. It's survival. Especially when your alarm clock is a 5am text from Dan.

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Don LeBattard. Pablo leads all of podcasting in reading while smiling. If you listen to ESPN Daily, he sounds like he's having the time of his life. Stugats! Coming up next, I'm gonna tell you how the Savannah Bananas are changing things. Savannah Bananas! How do you know I'm smiling? That's how I found my vocal range. Sometimes I just say, Savannah Bananas!

Savannah Bananas! Sometimes I just say Savannah bananas. Savannah bananas. This is the Don LeBathard Show with the StuGards. Would you take him and Binefest to the beach together? Almost interchangeable. You don't want me at a beach. Really? Here's the thing also. Real quick, just real quick on compliments from him. Right? Two HR complaints in about a three minute span.

And we forgot about the one where he talked about makeup because I was the best looking thing he'd ever been close to. And now that looks weird with the new context here. And also this is a guy who doesn't believe that compliments are fake to him. Exactly. So this is manipulative on top of the fact

that there are HR violations. I'm controlling. Yeah, you are a team president. I am, oh, Sam said, I'm knowing you more than you even realize, bro. Oh, hell yeah, I'm an open book to you. I love that, I love that. I learned about your ankles today.

Yeah, you did learn about mine. Which was really something. I feel like we can't go back. So congratulations to Pablo. We're gonna have him on, I'm gonna wanna hear what he's working on, but as Metal Arc, we have made a habit in this room of not being as complimentary as we could have been, which is not how it should work.

I feel like we nailed it today though. Today was a master class and it was deserving. I completely agree. It's an incredible show and it is a shout out to Metal Arc because you, obviously Pablo is an incredible talent, but the cool thing about Metal Arc because you, obviously Pablo's an incredible talent, but the cool thing about Metal Arc is you get to come here and do what you're passionate about

and when those things collide, when people support the thing that you're passionate about and that are hard to do other places, big things like this happen. One of the things we'll have to control is obviously the expense account. Mm-hmm, egos. Egos, all of those things

because he's flying all over the place, he's interviewing, getting Airbnbs, buying sweaters, all sorts of stuff. And so. It sounds like your resentments. Yeah, they sound very personal to him, but I'm gonna let him go. Team President resentments. I'm in a seat now to support him,

so I'm gonna let him go. Thank you. They're Team President resentments because. Have you tried to set up a meeting with the athletic for your podcast? Contract negotiations. He's under contract. Yes, now he doesn't want to honor his deal. I'm very happy with our new athletic partnerships.

I don't want to hit them with tampering charges. I am not allowed, me personally, to engage with, hold on, I need to check my phone just for the terms, because I keep repeating this. Okay, go ahead. I am not allowed under the terms of my deal to engage in any nefarious conversation with any other platforms other than the Dan LeBattard show,

Metal Arch Media, and DraftKings Network, until such time as the current licensing deal runs out, which shall be in a period of time not to expand past three years. You opened that that quick, or is that your phone? Yeah, is that like your wallpaper on your phone? That was a screensaver, he just went like this. I keep my responsibilities very close to me

because I don't wanna violate any contractual provisions. Don't you guys do that? Do you say that in the mirror every morning? Like after you brush your teeth? I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and God dang it, people like me. And I will not negotiate with any other contractor. I'll have to do a LeBretard show with any other contractors out there Dan lebatard show any license ticket dude

Dave did you write that yourself? That's that's those are legal terms. Yeah, but you wrote it. Those are off the top. I had a representative Oh, okay, so you didn't represent yourself in this matter. No, I had an agent. Okay What do you say cuz if percentage wise would you pay your agent 10%? Shout out to UTA Jerry Silberwitz number one agent in the business believe you me you had a chance to change He may not take you over paying him Yeah Do you have any idea the amount of cash flow that he sends my way and he gets to keep 10 cents of every dollar?

What a deal 90 cents for me 10 cents for him. How does that work? Can other agents just be like hey? I'll give you 8% No, I get poached all the time. Well you try to get poached. Try to get poached, yeah. I get poach attempt. Like is there an agent out there that's given everyone 4% just so they get all the clients? There's agents out there that work for free. It's sort of an unwritten rule. Just to get clients?

What agent works for free? Like you work for free at the beginning to get clients? They will do it for free to say, okay, hey, my benefit is that I can say I represented you in this, and then it produces other deals for other people. It's like an agent internship. Seems like you are overpaying by that math.

So he gives 10%, your boy doesn't pay nothing and I have the best in the business. Wait, you pay zero commission to your agent? Zero percent. And now your agent's like, shh. Because the affiliation with me is worth the weight in gold, Samson. Do you understand that?

Oh no, I understand the words you're saying. So your agent is making money off of you. Your mouth is moving and I am in disbelief. Because he's negotiating Kevin Hart's contracts for free so that he can get your 10%. You get what I'm saying? That's how this works. Oh no, I hear you and in this example, you're Kevin Hart.

Yeah, I am Kevin Hart to your Samson. And all those names are still the tall ones. I'm gonna have to do a commercial very, very quick. That was a bar, thank you. I made all that up, but I just want Samson to know I can go. Oh wait, which part did you make up? The part that I don't pay my age. Oh!

But there, you do get free work, you can get free work, and I have relationships where they work pro bono for that reason, not with my agent. He does great work, and I pay him for what he does for me. Because it's entertainment, Samson, I'm putting on a master class here, brother. In what? All right?

It's for the listeners. That's fraud. That's funny business. And you need to get your shit together. I'm gonna start a podcast. It's a spin-off called Hawk Finds Doubt. Wow. And I am going to just doubt facts in sports

and just be like, have you thought about the other side of it? Mike? And I'm gonna, just like I just lied about that whole thing. Let him cook. It's Hawk Finds Doubt, it'll be the spin-off, and yeah, is Tom Brady the goat?

Here's a whole show of why he's not. You're gonna have a cabinet position inside of two months. There we go. And it'll also help us in the negotiations with Pablo when he inevitably holds out. I would have gone real, Mike, if he had said Hawk finds doubt.

Oh, is it like a real podcast? Is it real or is it fake? That's a good one. Or Hawk finds gout, where I just go to the doctor. I also had gout. Yeah, me and Zad go to the doctor and they tell us both we have gout, because I have it's a rich man's disease self-diagnosed but disease self-diagnosed but I can see it and we just it's one episode where I

just go to the doctor and says yeah you have it here's how you treat it and just keep an eye on it and it wears your gout says I mean I had it in my knee and now it's gone yeah forever or is I mean I I had it in my knee. And now it's gone? Yeah. Forever? Or is it ever? I mean, I'm sure it could happen again, but it hasn't. Well, we can find it. We'll find it in the episode two. How does it settle in a place?

The knee feels random to me. Usually it's like the big toe is a pretty common place. The knee is a little bit less common. Yeah, I had it in my knee. It's very painful. How long did it take to recover? It was like five, six days. And it was hot.

If I would put my hands, my knee has a fever. You know? It was really uncomfortable. I think gout was measured in weeks and months, not in days. I had it all wrong. Is gout a day thing? Didn't you, wait, do you not have gout? I think you just had it.

I think it's just there, yeah. So you can't get rid of gout in five days? I don't think you had gout. I think you had like an infection. Of course I did, I went to the doctor. I went to the doctor. I don't know, I told you you had gout and it had gone in five days.

No, they gave me medication, okay, and I recovered, and look at me, I'm doing great. I think you can take the symptoms down. I don't know if you can get rid of it. Yeah, like I'm sure it can act up again if I could find it again Yeah, like I don't feel like people were taking that podcast seriously I've said it multiple times Hawkins finds gout like I feel like there hasn't been enough riffing around that And now we're actually talking about gout, which was not the intention of that one-liner

You don't have to explain it. Okay. I'm just saying it. We're good. We're gonna push right through it. All right, let's go. I wanna talk about airplanes for a second and I wanna talk about, Zazz told me before the show he had something amazing. Well. And I need to hear it. I don't know that it's amazing. I need a little bit of help here

for the next time I'm on a plane, I suppose. All right, so I was in New York this weekend. Me and my son, we went to WW SummerSlam, which was so great. And we were flying back yesterday, and I'm watching my show on an iPad, right? I'm watching, the show that I'm involved in right now is Boardwalk Empire, you've seen that, Steve Buscemi?

All right, I'm early in season two, no spoilers! I'm early in season two. It's good show, it's good show. He dies. It falls apart after this one. It's good show. Whoa! What are you doing?

People love it, I've never seen it. I've heard it's incredible. So I'm watching Boardwalk Empire and here's the problem that I have. I'm watching on my, again, it's not like the TV that they provided, it's on my iPad or I'm watching my own apps. And there's some pretty heavy nudity sex scenes

that are going on. I'm on the plane. Next to your son. Yeah, next, well my son's next to me. I'm not worried about that. It's more about am I being courteous to other people who are on the flight? What's the protocol there?

Like is it okay that I'm watching some kind of graphic snooze sex scenes? Did you do the lean in? I have one point I did kind of lean in like this, you know, to kind of, cause I was sitting on the aisle. It's not like I'm at the window, all right you know to kind of cuz I was sitting on the aisle It's not like I'm at the window all right easy to turn no I'm on the aisle so I don't know it's probably a good four or five people who could see it You know for probably a crack in the middle behind. That's a big one over the shoulder from the back right

Yeah, the cross the aisle like yeah, there's a row behind you that person I'm always a good six people that could see you right am I like garbage brightness down Yeah, no no no I'm trying to show you know low brightness a little bit just to sacrifice some of the visual in the sex It's your own screen. I think you just go down during the not be skipped ten like you know Oh, I thought about the skip ten, but I'm like no like I want to I'm watching the show You know I don't want to see what anything you want to feel with that feel yeah Same because do you skip ten when there's a shoot-up scene in the Godfather? No, there's violence No, just let everybody see that yeah, so for whatever reason

There's no etiquette as it relates to killing and murder rather a kid murder than boobs Yeah, you'd rather feel better about a kid murder looking like yes, that was because the murder is not real Right those the boobs are real. That's a good boy. That's a good point by Hawk We all know that the murder they're not really killing people. It's not real. Those are nipples. Those are real nipples movie You're not that's a real real or fake nipples. That's a real. You know whatever it is There's plenty of prosthetics that are used on on set not talking about the literal sense Samson I think you understand that you are by saying it's not real murder. It's not fake nudity.

But an eight-year-old kid doesn't know that. It's not like. It is fake nudity, actually. It's not fake nudity. Nah, but they don't put in the disclaimer before the show, fake nudity. No, they say nudity. It's nudity.

When you went to your topless beach, whether somebody had enhancements or not, that's still real nudity. I said prosthetics, not enhancements. It doesn't matter. So am I garbage for playing my nude sex scenes in front of everybody? Yes.

Is the short answer yes. I think he's all right. But I think there's context. Because you didn't intend to play the sex scenes. If you knew going in, like, oh man, when we get to minute 4.27, it's going to get steamy on this like the urbex calc. Is there a difference when you're

watching on your iPad and what if I order it on the movie that's the screen edit for content? Cause I had happened to me with, I did wedding crashes once on the screen. Oh, great opening montage, lots of movies. Yeah, and I was like, I assumed, I'm like, they're gonna clean that part up, it's on the movie.

They're offering it here, like they're gonna, I don't have to worry about this. And I like was like, oh God. No, no, I would not cover that. If the plane is offering me something that has nudity take it off with the take it up with them up there you know that's Delta for sure I'm with these ass I agree with that but this was my own deal is my own iPad I'm choosing to watch you brought that on the plane

well I felt a little weird I felt like I was very happy to have my kids introduced to nudity but not to violence. I had the opposite view with my kids that I did not. You were excited when they got introduced to violence. I didn't mind, I wasn't covering up. Did you ask your rabbi? Movies, thank you, with nudity but the ones with violence. I wouldn't let my kids at six years old watch.

It is weird, like as a parent you're like, ah, this is a little uncomfortable, there's boobs right there, but if there's like murder, it's like, oh, it's all good. It is weird. I Don't understand how with your kids like you yeah, you actually do not draw a difference between Violence and nudity because I don't show my kids violence. It just only you'll come across it I don't need to introduce you to the violence. You could just be like that's bad stuff Whereas like nudity opens up a whole door of questions. It's just like I don't

Like not it's not actually questions. It's just like I don't conversation like not it's not actually bad It's just a penis Yeah, but that's just I'm not trying to do that right now That's just not a I'm on a plane and it doesn't surprise me that that that that's your view as someone who goes in frequent I didn't say frequent that that is Wrong of you to say quarterly nude beach not even videos. Not even quarterly. You get to a new city in Miami, let's go check out the new beaches. You call Bindfest. Board of Directors meeting.

What the Lord. Perry Hill, let's go. I got Perry Hill there. Why do you keep saying Perry Hill? Because it's a good visual. Yeah. I've never gone anywhere with Perry Hill. He doesn't let you hate him.

I know, I remember. Yeah, so no. He's teaching you how to feel grounders. Yeah. And call him bone for nothing He's bone done libertard for five minutes I was watching everyone just like nope not letting you in not letting you in so when I got up there I had to say something and I said it cheaters never prosper still got my buddy was saying not today

Yeah, but you're not today. I think that was what he was adding not today. Not today. I think that was what he was adding. Yeah, that was so much better. I'm telling you, the response I got from this guy, what I said was amazing. He got him. Cheaters never prosper.

This guy yelled as angry as he could, I ain't cheat. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the StuGuts. I just have a thing. And it's an issue with movie violence and video game violence. I have an issue with it because I don't understand why that's normalized and the human body's not. Like, will you actually be watching a movie and you're offended by this violence? No, I'm talking about what, I'm not offended by any of it now. I'm talking about when I had younger kids

Yeah, that was it was it more of like I don't want this to be shown to my kids Or is it from the perspective that you're saying like? Why can my kids see this and not boobs? Why is that taboo? Is it like that? It's that it's that's like a personal Like you have a nudity thing that you like personal No, I guess definitely personal that I I made a nudity thing that you like. It's definitely personal, no. It's definitely personal that I made a judgment for what I would've, people do it all the time. I want my kids to eat organic.

I want my kids to have a glass of milk three times a day. Whatever you do with your kids. I want my kids to read a book before they go to bed. Everyone's got rules for their kids. I assume you have rules for your kids. Drinking soda's a big one in our house right now. My daughter wants to and we're like trying to. Not allowed.

But I like soda, so like what kind of person am I? Yeah. You have to, hey, when you're an adult, you can make your own choices. Lifelong. When you live in your own house, you can be a mess. We do like every couple weeks, like all right, you can have a soda.

That's how we do it. Yeah, that's gateway. Opening the door though. Gateway. Yeah. That's how crack started. Yep, that's the gateway to meth, brother. I assume you have rules with your kids.

Of course, I have a lot of rules. And they're all based on what you think is right or wrong. Absolutely. So we're no different. Yeah, but I don't get mad for somebody else's rules. I make the decision if I want my kids to see violence or at what age they're okay with seeing violence versus me being pissed off.

They're like, why are you showing me this violence and not showing my kids boobs? Why is that? Why is that what you wanna show them? It's not that I get pissed off, it's that on a plane, as an example, I would be less apt to hide the nudity that Zazz was seeing in Boardwalk Empire

than I would if I'm sitting around children and I'm watching an R-rated, if I'm watching Heat. I think they have the violence in Boardwalk Empire, right? They kill people. They for sure do. Chucky White takes care of people. Actually actually the rest of that show was probably violence that he's not worried about The new thing on the same episode I was watching buddy got his throat slit. Yeah, also It's like a judgment thing too because it says something about Zazz

I think that's like the scary part on a plane is like That's why you feel weird about the nudity like not just you but just in general like I don't feel people are gonna judge me because there's violence in My I never think people judge me if I'm sitting on a plane watching sex scenes totally it makes them think something about you And as someone who doesn't care what any human on earth has ever thought in your existence I can see where there's gonna be a disconnect from that that mindset Would you take your shoes off on a plane and put your feet up like on the armrest of the person in front of you? No, unless I was trying to purposefully disrespect you.

What is that? You've never seen people do that? I mean, I've never been on a plane where someone's foot is all of a sudden on my armrest. It'd be horrible. No one's ever seen that. I've seen it. What do you do? Do you do the slapdown? You have two choices. You do the slapdown What do you do? Do you do the slap down? You have two choices. You do the slap down or you do the turnaround. Those are your choices. Just like, you could just say like, hey, look, just like one of these like.

That's the turnaround. Definitely not just the look. I mean, I'm turning around and yo, put your foot down. Nah, but before you say anything, you do the look. Where it's just like with your eyes. You don't go polite first. You don't assume. No, cause their foot, their disgusting foot being on your armrest is the opposite of polite

Oh first you go just eyes where your eyes say it all no, no, I'm doing a lot more than we are It's so in sync. I go look first. Yeah, and they usually the look usually does it yeah It's cuz they're self-cultivated. It's an escalation move though. It's not just a glance. It's a you're nuts What if it's a kid's foot? Well, then you look at the parent. Then I do the look the other way to not the person's foot. I do the look to the person who the kid's with. But you know, you won't just be direct and say,

hey, you think you can tell your kid to put their foot down? Not to start with. No, you just give the look. I feel like that's more escalated than saying something. If you gave me a look, I'd be like, what the hell are you looking at? That would be my immediate reaction to the energy. Billy. I feel like that's more escalated than saying something. If you gave me a look, I'd be like, what the hell are you looking at?

That would be my immediate reaction to the energy. Billy. Zazz, can I make a suggestion for you? You turn around, the person has their foot on your arm rest, right? You turn around, you put your iPad on their little thing that they had there, you unplug it, turn the volume all the way up

on the sex scene, everyone is looking at them on the airplane. Especially if it's a kid. If their kid puts their foot up, you hand them a sex scene, then you give them eye contact, like yeah. Good luck with these conversations tonight. This was avoidable, you did this. That kid may give you knuckles,

instead of meaning that's a good thing. No, don't you call it that? 1981, when Magic Johnson signed his 25 year, 25 million dollar contract, they called fighting giving knuckles. No, giving knuckles meaning the kid would be happy. Oh, I don't know. I don't know the reference.

To see the nudity. Okay, giving knuckles, pound. That is called pound. That's what he means, yeah. That's a pound, yeah. Wait, is this a 99 to one thing that all of you say? That's a pound. It's a pound, yeah.

Or a fist. I thought it was giving knuckles. No, you say take them to pound town. That sounds like something you tell your kids. David fist him. No you say take your kids No, Billy, that's not what take them to pound come over here and fist them Fist me give me some Nuckeez here. Yeah, I viewed fist is something totally different. I would agree that I Associate that with something totally different nudist on

nudity over violence Samson I am your HR complaints I am I don't know I don't know if you picked that up yet I have already picked it up I've known it for an hour and a half and that's how quickly I pick up freaky he's freaked out bro he's gonna get a freeco charge that's not true he's gonna get hit with a freeco I resemble that implication I mean I resent that implication. I am absolutely not that. I'm gonna spend the entire day solo working. That's what I did yesterday. Do shows and then you start the next day's show. I still can't believe that you thought that World War II or that Pearl Harbor was the same level as the Magic Johnson contract. To a 16 year old when it

came out it was way bigger. There are kids today, if you ask my son, how about your children, 9-11 and Pearl Harbor are pretty similar. They're before they were born, they were just in the past. Did they make a movie about the Magic Johnson contract? Was Schuba Gooding Jr. in it? Did someone drop an atomic bomb as a result?

Also, you said to a 16 year old, when Pearl Harbor happened, a 16 year old looked at his parents, he's like, I guess I'm going to war now. I mean, Magic Johnson. When I was 16. What's he ever done? Big Magic Johnson.

Thousands and thousands of things. Got AIDS. That's right. Time to think fast. Is this a real or fake podcast? Show me something with Sophie Cunningham. Real or fake podcast? I'll start. Good. I got you started. That's fake. And I know what her podcast should be called. I'm going to say it's a fake. That is definitely real.

Yeah, it was just announced. Jeez. I shouldn't have followed Samson on that. I thought you had your own opinion. I didn't. I didn't. I'm gonna Google who she is. He could have said anything.

You don't know who she is. Could you not pick her out of a line? That's Caitlin Clark's bodyguard. That's who that is. Oh yeah, I do know. Shana Pina. Yeah. Mira Arriba with Jose altube

Me that EBA fake wait, what does that mean look up with Jose altube? Oh because he's a short fake fake fake. He's catching a pop fly It could be that's it. I'm just going fake. I don't think he has his own podcast That is fake. He's a busy guy, And he's very small, he's my size. I've met Jose. I would assume he's busy, he's a second baseman. What an odd note. That he's small? He's a busy guy.

It's value added. Unapologetically Me with Skyler Diggins-Smith. That sounds real to me. That sounds real. I'm going fake because it's too close to unapologetically Angel which is Angel Reese. That's a good call. This guy's locked in. You're locked in Zash. This guy consumes all the WNBA podcast. Shout out to you Zash. It is Johnson. Fake. Hall of Famer? No.

Fake. That's fake. Stand on it with CJ Gardner Johnson. That's crazy you would attribute that to. It is fake. Post Moves with Candice Parker. I'm gonna go real. That's a good podcast name.

It's a great name. Because it had to be taken before That's a good podcast name. It's a great name. Because... That had to be taken before she got to the podcast game. She's very serious about business and her life beyond playing. Even if it's a fake one, it's like one of those things where she like, Hawk finds doubt. It's probably a pretty good podcast. You could say the same thing about Vida and Eva. Post moves would have been like the first like cliche

NBA podcast name like ten years ago. It can't be a candidate. Maybe it was Chris. She was the first Maybe she was I think she's got a new podcast with Alia Boston. So I I think it's real this guy Right, you're not allowed to play me, right? If there's ever a trivia night on WNBA podcast We're drafting Zazz first. It is real. I love how he said, I think there. Like he didn't know it. I don't know everything, you know?

It seems like you do. That is, is this a real or fake podcast? That's good, man. Zazz, that is a- Dan Lebertard's show, 7.5 on IMDB rating, by the way. That's almost, that's more than double. Double Ice Cube War of Worlds. Zazz, do you study for that game? Just in case it comes up no I

Do you look at the rankings like no then how do you know all these pockets plugged in man? I know what's up have you listened to all the ones you've heard of no, but like I've seen clips You know Sophie Cunningham like she came out the gates hot last week with her first episode Talking all things Caitlin Clark that's gonna make headlines you know and Candice Parker recently was down on the WNBA for the way they handled the All-Star with the shirts and all that so I saw that clip too so I'm just aware things are going on oh so no I'm learning a lot about his ass too man that's a that's a that's an indicator that somebody cares about their craft is what that means like he's he's not in

this for fake he's in the lab you know it's like I'm when I'm hiring I'm looking at people like that but he's watching border walk empire on a plane and not working you gotta have you gotta have creative balance have a little time you can't just you can't just can't burn the or the the candle at both ends what do you do on the plane how long was your flight time that's from New York so you know two and a half hours on a plane. I do several things Depends on the plane ride depends on the length of the plane. Okay, what about from New York? Give us any example

I watch a movie every day so when I'm on a plane I'm gonna watch a movie to not work movie of the day no, but that is work I review movie on my show you do the thing I do where it's like I got a work, honey That's I accept. I don't have a honey, but yes, You do the thing I do where it's like, I gotta work honey. Except I don't have a honey, but yes I do exactly that. I gotta watch this, we're gonna talk about it tomorrow. I have to review something. I also will read.

So I'm the Wi-Fi guy. Because I don't read books anymore, which is super sad. Because I'm reading articles non-stop. And websites. That's life man, that's where we're at No, I don't you miss reading books you do miss only you controlled it you miss when the TVs were squiggly man. I I they should have a squeaky squiggly button for situations like that. It's not squiggly. What's it called? SD love you on a standard

Just pulled a button and it just squiggles you for when he's like, oh, I'm embarrassed by this I don't want you just longing for the day when he read a book like man if only I could do that again I can't. Closed all the libraries. What is it called? Scrambled. It's not squiggly. It's scrambled. It's it's it's geographical We called it squiggly as the kids who were like in our generation with squiggly lines not scrambled We called them squiggly lines. Did it ever unsquiggle for you the way it unscrambled for us? There was where was one night I remember. The unsquiggle?

It was like I just it was unlocked and Spice Channel just had it unlocked. And me and my brothers were like oh snap bro. This is crazy. It's a whole new world. You just sitting behind Zazz the whole time? Just like wow do you see this guy's iPad? You're welcome.