The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Rigged Or Not Rigged

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Welcome to The Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
Starting point is 00:00:53 That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. I actually hurt my ankle a little bit there. That was not a fake fall i think tony felt me tumble into him and you know i needed some training and some help there
Starting point is 00:01:11 tony's not wrong on everything he said no no disagreement right i couldn't hear on the floor what people were saying to you and you sound a little winded yes of course it would be really nice to have uh... cooper flag in fact i've i've it felt to me somewhere, uh, Bill Simmons is rooting for Cooper flag in a way that seems sweet. And he has been understanding that this is a player that can be transcendent. Well, this is why I probably the same thing. I feel where I didn't want to go to Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I didn't want to go to Washington. Dallas is probably like when it came down to the final two picks Dallas and San Antonio. It's like alright He's gonna go to a pretty decent spot Well is he or is it gonna get traded for Yanis because you were you were the one to throw out immediately With the honest reports like you get that number one pick you call a Milwaukee This is one of the more valuable number one picks of all time. Okay, so I'm only going by what Nico Harrison has told us. Like Nico Harrison traded away Luca for Anthony Davis
Starting point is 00:02:16 because he has a three year blindo. They have a three year window as an organization now to win a championship. So if that's the case, you have to trade the number one pick, right? But the Kyrie Irving injury now changes the math there a little bit, because if you had Kyrie Irving with AD and then you add a Cooper flag, okay, you've got a nice core. Now Kyrie's out and it's like, all right, do we have to make something else happen? Because that championship window,
Starting point is 00:02:39 that championship core is now missing a third. Well, then what you're saying is then he has to now trade Anthony Davis. Because the three year window is based around Davis, and if they're abandoning the three year window, again, his words. But defense match championships, his words. His words. You get Giannis and Anthony Davis,
Starting point is 00:02:55 I don't care who the third piece is, that is gonna be formidable defensively. I'm going by his words, based on the reason he made the Anthony Davis trade, is because they have a three year championship window. And if that's the analysis changing his entire plan well you know i'm sorry billy interrupt you but uh... cody has made some fun of
Starting point is 00:03:12 zaslow on this uh... saying that cody is more of a journalist then zaslow is well but i happen to know that zaslow's got legitimate sources i believe that zaslow could break news right now about knowing what the Miami Heat is already in play for. Yeah. This is not about them. Here we go. Well, but no, but I think, Zaslow, do I have this wrong?
Starting point is 00:03:36 Do you not have, hold on, do you not have exclusive sources that would say to you exactly who could be, look, guys, guys, I know it's not about the Miami Heat, but Zaslow has breaking news here from what I understand Yonis interested Wow Now I know we saw the report yesterday from shams. He's open. He's open to everything. Okay, literally every team Well every well, he's definitely not interested in every team. Are you saying shams is a liar? Yeah, well, no, but I'm saying that hold on. Are you saying Shams is a liar? Yeah, well, no, but I'm saying that if Shams... Hold on, hold on. Did you say Shams is a liar?
Starting point is 00:04:06 Just to be clear. Well, Shams said Yannis is open to everything, right? OK, well, I'm saying that's a little bit much. He's definitely not open to being traded to the Washington Wizards. So I'm not calling Shams a liar, but I'm just saying he's not open to everything. He's not open to going to the worst teams, but I will tell you Janice Incidentally and not the only one in this group of people that you're talking about because I do believe that Anthony Davis would have some moves here would he not like it?
Starting point is 00:04:39 Anthony Davis is a power broker whether he's injured or not like he's, I don't know who you think these 10 players are in the league, but when Anthony Davis is healthy, he's one of them. Yeah, so that's where this also becomes interesting, right? Because I'm going by Nico Harrison's words. He has a three year championship window, but it, because like Tony said, if the Kyrie Irving injury is going to change everything,
Starting point is 00:05:01 well, you kind of got to go around and trade away Anthony, like pick a lane, pick a a direction if you're the Mavs and if they're picking the direction of Cooper Flag, then you need to trade away Anthony Davis because that's not a three-a-window and Davis could be another guy, again power broker, who could be interested in Miami. I mean but Cooper Flag was part of the Luka trade so like he knew this was happening. Like the league said, we'll give you the number one pick and Cooper flag if you just gift them,
Starting point is 00:05:28 well, if Luca to the lake. Billy, so you speak for not a not quiet minority that believes everything that happened there is bullshit. Cause it's too perfect to story all of it. And Nico wins. How does Nico win in the end? That is a stunning move. It's against all odds, and Nico wins. How does Nico win in the end? That is a stunning move. It's against all odds, the Nico story.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It's not against all odds. Let's see how he manages this also situation. In the history of the NBA, big time controversial trades. Remember, the league stopped Chris Paul from getting traded to LA, and they said, hey, you better trade him to the other LA team. Guess what? We own the Pels at this time, you get the number one pick.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Anthony Davis, everybody wants Anthony Davis? Oh, we're gonna trade him to LA? Great, you trade him to LA, guess what? You get the number one pick. Anthony Davis, everybody wants Anthony Davis. Oh, we're gonna trade him to LA? Great, you trade him to LA, guess what? You get the number one pick. Look at Donchich, no one knows that he's available. You can also add LeBron went to Miami, you'll get Cavs, you get the number one pick. And they get Cavs seven number one picks
Starting point is 00:06:14 to try to fix that situation. Oh, Lucas, you go to LA? You take care of LA, you get the number one pick. That seems to be the deal in this league. Here's the thing, here's the thing. If they're rigging the draft, people would go to prison! Nah. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I don't think so. Do you have rich people going to prison? Yeah, come on, man. Also, how are we so certain that Nico is going to take Cooper flag with the number one pick? Well, doesn't it get interesting where, if Nico says, hey, I got a three year championship window, so I'm going to trade away this pick, like do the MAVs then, let him like, hey, the reaction a three year championship window, so I'm going to trade away this pick,
Starting point is 00:06:45 like do the Mavs then let him like, hey, the reactions to the Luka trade went so well, yeah, we're gonna let you trade away the number one overall pick as well. Can I ask you guys a question? Why does the NBA think this is a good system? The lottery system. Why do they think that?
Starting point is 00:06:59 Why do they insist on this? Because we really don't have complaints about how the other sports do it. You have a system in which every year people allege is is rigged everyone thinks that when the draft breaks certain ways the first accusation from the masses is it's rigged and also you're not actually doing anything to curb the tanking you had Utah and Washington tank all year they knew it wasn't guaranteed they end up with picks five and six.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It ain't stopping the next Utah and Washington from tanking. It's literally not doing anything it's designed to do. And also everyone thinks it's rigged. Why is this system still in place? I mean, it does curb teams from tanking a little bit, right? A little bit. It doesn't seem like it is. It's only curbing this one that resides down here in Miami.
Starting point is 00:07:48 They also changed the system. Flat in the odds. And now it looks even more rigged than it did before, before they changed the system to make it not look rigged. Why is this still around? Everyone has an issue with it. It's the worst of the major sports. It is literally working against the interest
Starting point is 00:08:04 that it was designed to protect. I don't get why we still do that. And there are models to improve the lottery and one of them is to put extra weight on a team's record in the last 20 games of the season. I mean there are ways. So you would take chances away from them if they're especially bad the last 20 games? NBA 2K fixed it. There are options to fix it. That's not a terrible idea. You have a little mini tournament, you take the final third of the season into account. There's so many possible solutions where teams can actually play into this and you can reward not tanking. The league just refuses to do it and you can only
Starting point is 00:08:43 assume they love this stuff They love everyone accusing that it's rigged you say love teams tanking because they're not doing anything to actually stop it You see the NHL system the NHL the draft lottery last week their system wouldn't allow Dallas to get the number one overall pick You're only able to move up like if you win the draft lottery You're only able to move up a maximum of like eight spots. Okay, Chris Cody able to move up a maximum of like eight spots. Okay Chris Cody the Lebatard family tree of friends Jorge Sedano has been ahead of this particular curve for many years one of the first controversial things I ever heard Jorge Sedano do is he told the commissioner of the league David Stern that his league
Starting point is 00:09:17 was fixed. I remember this. Yeah well can we call Jorge Sedano and just talk to him about this because what you guys are alleging here is outrageous. However, if I may just answer your question for a second. Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good. Thank you Tony. Didn't seem like anyone else knew what to do there. We missed Dugats. We missed Dugats. So Zazzle doesn't know how to replace him.
Starting point is 00:09:50 He's a pale imitation. Living my life. Who's putting their name on Rigged? Cause like we're doing a lot of talking about, oh it looks rigged. Everyone thinks it's rigged. Why don't they do it actually though? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Nobody really does. I don't actually. I do. Why don't they just give the number one pick to the winner of the in season tournament that they're trying to make a thing? you know that it's a major accounting firm Ernst and Young that is in and accounting firms have never defrauded Okay, but why would they risk going to prison for the NBA? I mean people go to prison for all kinds of stupid reasons stupid basketball. Yeah, they're not going to prison
Starting point is 00:10:22 Stupid basketball Of course they would go to prison stupid basketball here of course they would go to prison if they rig the lottery yeah what's the law what law covers that yeah that's a good question I'm a journalist not a lawyer so you're asking me questions I don't have he's a judge I'm also a judge judge he doesn't worry about the reason I'm forcing him with prejudice prejudice he is climbing up the ranks he is both judge and journalists always judging jury
Starting point is 00:10:48 and sometimes executioner your honor i apologize i don't think about it and so i just to answer mike's question why do we love this system because the nb is great at knowing before the rest of us did a stories and story lines are fun and entertainment how about we throw in something everyone loves it's gambling allotterie make it totally random
Starting point is 00:11:12 everyone loves it televised a lottery looking at a watch a live television program in shomai so i don't know if you have were you hurt by luca the lottery fixes all of your dreams nico goes from terrible executive to star-studded one and i think billy's question is a reasonable one don't put it past him he might not draft draft cooper flag he might rather know that he might draft someone else ralondo blackmail was pretty non-committal when they spoke to him but they want but the answer to
Starting point is 00:11:40 mike's question on what's fixed because it is fast and i want to hear you guys actually argue about this, where the conspiracy theories lie. But it's not the games or the lottery that's fixed, it's the costs. Like if you keep all of the fixed costs with all of these young players that are worth a huge amount of money,
Starting point is 00:11:57 adjacent Tatum, and you negotiate the business of this, like I understand your skepticism, but Zez is right when he says, all of this would be profoundly I understand your skepticism, but Zez is right when he says all of this would be profoundly illegal to fix the lottery. Right, but it's not stopping people from saying that it's fixed, which is a perception issue. And more importantly, it's not actually stopping teams from tanking. But also, like, where is it in the Constitution? Because, like, right to bear arms, right to
Starting point is 00:12:23 freeze-free, don't rig the NBA draft lottery like i missed that amendment you know it also doesn't help the whole draft lottery is rigged is when the most famous player in the world LeBron James insinuates that it's rigged Like why does he insist on doing that? He puts out the laughing emojis immediately after and don't forget when he was on the McAfee show, what was it like, four, five, six months ago, and he straight up says he believes the NBA rigged the draft lottery in 2003 to get him to Cleveland. I'd like a crack at answering that question psychologically actually because I've come around on like Billy's theory when he says Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 00:13:12 just is somehow addicted to attention. That's what the virus is. LeBron James, when Mike said yesterday of Pat Riley, he's being prideful here, duh. LeBron James has realized over the last 20 years the power he actually has and it's because at this time of year, he's always the one everyone's talking about. It's been for 20 years. Like that's where he went from kid to adult, you know, 20 years old on. He's been the most famous athlete in the world, surprisingly normal in public, and the league just got taken away from him. Like we, we're work everyone understands that steph injury what it means right like they got jimmy but they got to be bothered jimmy give us twenty four
Starting point is 00:13:51 games of the crazy by the way jimmy last night i'll be given a solid that no no no please all the needles to the legs you need give us just twenty four get steph to the end will take twenty four days of crazy stephen lebron are giving over the league right now this is cold to say jason tatum and the celtics machine didn't just blow a tire last night the engine blew the teams will get better at threes faster next year
Starting point is 00:14:19 okc will be better because they've got that they've got to have that they've got fixed costs they've got hey you guys all got to stay in seven years in OKC Shay you can't leave you know why we got you locked in please sign an extension now because we had James Harden and Kevin Durant and and we had Russell Westbrook and we learned in a small market the thing that New York had to hire like a bunch of agents to figure out which is if we have all the draft picks we can keep a mo k c fixed costs because that lottery
Starting point is 00:14:47 that lottery it pays for everything like that you can have fixed costs without a lottery i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i'd i on display for all of us to see, especially in the age where the transaction is so important that we're talking as much today about Yanis and about the draft as we are about the game that was played. It's not for all of us to see. It happens behind closed doors with an accounting firm that the NBA hires and the sources are, just trust us, bro. I can understand.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Okay, but there's a room full of representatives of every team in there too. I understand. I understand. It's not wrestling, Mike. I'm not alleging that it's rigged. I'm saying that everyone thinks that it's rigged and there are reasons why everyone thinks that it's rigged. But nobody talks about it being rigged the year that the team with the highest percentage likelihood wins. They're talking about it now because 1.8%
Starting point is 00:15:40 won. I tell you, throw them off the Senate. That's an anomaly. LeBron did. LeBron gave voice to, yeah, they had the best odds that year. And what? They still fixed it to make sure I got there. There's plenty of reasons as to why people think it's fixed, because it's not super transparent. But the idea of risking the credibility of a league just for like, dude, they rigged the 06 finals.
Starting point is 00:16:04 There was a referee rigging the 2006 NBA finals. What are we talking about? That's a rogue referee. This is like a league decision of like, all right, we're going to manipulate all these things. So rogue referee that officiated a lot of games and was allowed to continue to officiate while an investigation was pending
Starting point is 00:16:24 and had other close referees that I should remind you are still officiating to this day. You're playing both sides though you just said you don't actually believe it's rigged and now you're like but... No I'm not telling you what to think I'm asking you if you'd like to there's plenty of reasons as to why people think it's rigged and also one of the reasons are it was! You also have their officials while not making bets impacting the outcome of games where like, you know, every team exactly how the officials going to referee that team.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Like the human element in basketball is crazy. How much they impact the game. He's dead on. There are so many betting trends for certain officials. Oh, you're going to want to take the road team here. There's a human element here. There's also like this guy favors this one team. There's absolute stats for that. I'm sorry if you're being distracted by the automated voice in the background. Greg Cody, do you want to give a
Starting point is 00:17:15 recounting? I don't know how much of this is going out on air. I've been sort of howling with laughter inside since Mike got to another octave of condescending with the phrase that I should remind you. Like once you get to that I should remind you like you're just lost in the smell of your own farts. No dude, we I mean we're here having a conversation why would the NBA rig this they rigged the finals one year. They rigged the finals one year. They rigged the finals one year!
Starting point is 00:17:45 There's three banners up there, one of them was rigged! Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold This was documented. Do you not remember the NBA finals in which Dwayne Wade got every call? I bet it's Salvatore made those calls. It wasn't Tim Donaghy. Come on, dude. It was proven to be rigged. What are we doing? Judge Dazzle? Rigged or not rigged? 2006. Yes! Not rigged. Legit championship. No. No. He rules with bias.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I rule! With prejudice. With prejudice? With prejudice. No! No! All right. There will be order in this court.
Starting point is 00:18:34 All right, all right. All right, listen to me. Bailiff, take that man out. Judge and journalist, real quick, Zaslow, any other heat reporting that you have for us? Just to be clear, is Zaslow reporting? Yep, I am. Greg, no, I believe it would be news.
Starting point is 00:18:49 School's in session here, Greg. I believe it would be news, and I believe that Zaslow has good sources. Did you just report, because Billy is skeptical of all these bullshit reports, did Zaslow with his credibility at stake just report that Anthony Davis and Yanis have expressed whatever it is that needs to be expressed so that the Miami Heat could get a whiff of that wonderful scent
Starting point is 00:19:15 of joining the Hope Parade? Listen, I am a respected journalist. I do have sources. And from what I know and what I've been told from some of those sources, Yannis and Anthony Davis are both potentially interested in the My Meat. Okay, so see, that's news. But how do you get them? Okay, see, that's where someone who went to journalism school knows and you wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I would go to prison before I released my sources. No, no, not the sources. How do you get both of those players? That's a good question. Completely different question. That becomes more complicated, yes. For some reason. I'd rather go to prison. I'll figure that out. A lot easier for me to answer what I thought I was answering. Well, you guys have listened to Oral History and you know that the origins of this show
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Starting point is 00:23:53 That's a sui nomine right there. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the StuGats. with us to guards. I want to go back to that. I should remind you, Chris, can I get a ruling on this? And I have to backtrack for just a second. I, I, Greg Cody owes the public an apology and I owe the public an apology because I made a prediction, I guess last week, that the producers of this show are now wanting to embarrass me about because I'm woke.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Treat the athletes as if they're human, guy, and don't make sports so important and your hate so important that you would dehumanize the athlete. This is sound of me, I don't know what the sound is that the producers are telling me is meant to embarrass me That was my only sort of before this series started Dan's gonna give you a prediction and it's gonna be the most right prediction That there is but it's not entirely objective
Starting point is 00:24:56 It seems a bit biased and the way I feel about both the Knicks and the Celtics fan base make it so that this game I want the meteor to win I want both teams to explode both teams to lose both teams to get injured wolf Wow not a good look for you no that's embarrassing victory lap meteor so you would here is gonna hit the arena and just demolish it and then thousands of people are innocent by standards yeah no I wouldn't want innocent bystanders Just a meteor hits the court and they can no longer play both sides lose forever
Starting point is 00:25:29 If you had to choose one meteor one arena though to get hit by a meteor Would it be a home game or a road game? I don't think this is Responsible and I don't think we're words not ours. Well, I'm asking okay. I'm a journalist I'm just pushing right not a journalist you would not go to that I'm glad journalist. I'm just pushing. You're not a journalist. You would not go to that I'm glad you brought that up You would not go to prison to protect your sources if a judge came up to you and said mr. Zaslow 20 years or Give me your sources you'd go to prison for years. No, I'm also a judge. I would never I would never
Starting point is 00:25:59 Put myself in that scenario. Yeah, okay Not corrupt at all just like the NBA on the up-and-up you're a judge You can do whatever you want above the law. No, no, no. Yeah. No, that's what you're saying. That's fine To be clear That I should remind you You would be a vending machine for sex in prison who would want to have sex with him? Respectfully, I mean, okay. Well now I feel better yeah no offense respectful people that want to have sex put it on the pole at Levitard show who
Starting point is 00:26:30 would want to have sex with Zaslow that seems like a cutting remark from the way out respectfully which is very important that's the way respectfully there that you left off of that pole look at this point this one would not do well in prison I would be holding someone's pocket. Did I actually wear a blonde wig? Yet, I would never reveal my sources who told me that Yanis and Anthony Davis are both interested in the Miami Heat. Look, he's reporting this strongly. Don't make fun of it. Like, Zazz has better sources than anybody except maybe Mike in college football and Billy at FIU. Like, he's got better sources than Cody.
Starting point is 00:27:06 But you guys are the real journalists. This is a problem. Can I say something? And this is not over here on this side of the room. Your finger pointed there. I'm right. Okay. This is nothing against that. But when it's been reported that Yanis is open to everything, the report that Yanis, you can look at me while you talk, look at me. to everything, the report that Yanis would consider Miami, not really big news when it's already been reported that Yanis will consider every credible offer.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Shame on you for piecing that one together. Wow. I would say that it's easy for Yanis, I don't know what Yanis people tell Shams, he's the best, he's the top guy, but it's really easy to say and make sure that everyone is not offended at this scenario. Yanis is open to everything,
Starting point is 00:27:49 which also includes returning to Milwaukee. I'm telling you that specifically, the Miami Heat have been mentioned by Yanis' people. But can I ask you guys, because I do want to, this is a report, he's reporting this. Put it on the crawl. Can he's reporting this on the crawl can you guys put on the crawl please like uh... codex itself do you know do you know any other team names that they've been vote to reject do you just
Starting point is 00:28:12 know that they've every other one of all the plug-in for the well but wait a minute though the at cracker greg you can make fun of it but the anthony davis component look i don't know who you guys think are the dominoes falling on the finances of the game if they're let let's of the game. But if there, let's just say for the points of this argument, let's just say that the Miami Heat would want to be in play for, I'm going to say between five or seven players, the last of whom at this point is Kevin Durant. Like if you want to try to get John Morant or whatever it is that the MechaNations have to be is, is that guy unhappy? And, after LeBron still seeks this attention, how quick are the intention pants in every city where
Starting point is 00:28:52 Yanis is already, okay, time's up Milwaukee, you didn't do it with Middleton, you didn't fix the things, it's over, let, he's the first domino, we all know this. But if the Heat wanted five other calls- They did do it with Middleton. But if the Heat wanted five other calls. They did do it with Middleton. If the Heat wanted five calls from people, who would the people be? And Bede is on this list, yes? Oh my God, this is why people hate us.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Why did the Heat only have to get one? What are we doing? Why not all five? What's going on? There's five positions. They have Dick! They have Dick! And they get five of them.
Starting point is 00:29:23 They have a pair and it's not suited like it's just like what is happening could add the first pick I'm just saying what's to stop the heat from getting Kevin Durant Giannis Anthony Davis LeBron a pair can't be and then you just put so let me ask you something let me ask you something all right I'm just telling you I'm being serious I'm just telling you why us next fans hate you guys yeah it's just ridiculous you guys don't belong in the conversation You have nothing to trade for you're an afterthought the ringer took your knees out from under you
Starting point is 00:29:53 You're incapable of landing a superstar I'm telling you though They're not an afterthought and the question that I would have to you is when Yannis's people Tell the Miami Heat that they are interested which is what I'm telling you They know Yannis people know that the Heat in your words don't have dick. Like they know who's on the Heat's roster, they know the Heat's assets,
Starting point is 00:30:12 yet they are still telling the Heat that Yanis is interested. So like what do we do with that? Yeah, they're telling a bunch of teams that. And a lot of the teams that they're telling that have much better capital to to make this deal happen Maybe they're telling other seems that that I don't know maybe no no no they they're talking to teams that have dick Well, who's okay? Who's got the better sources in this particular realm because I think I'm going with
Starting point is 00:30:35 Mike Ryan's I'm having a dick off no no no no everybody stand back stand back I'm not going against his report that I should remind you I I'm not going against his report. I don't doubt that this has happened It's time for a dick off Dallas's dick got a lot better last Yeah, they have a much bigger dick right, but I thought the heat had dick in your words No, they stick a good thing or a bad dick is a good thing or can be especially if it's like a big ol honking Okay, all right, and that's what Dallas They got a huge
Starting point is 00:31:03 All right, and that's what Dallas had enough they got a huge Like the hammer like that guy that they would text you during for the audio on this second. No Jesus Christ The show we're doing Major asshole like a San Francisco Times link and I click it out all of a sudden Showing off out What's the matter with you the guy I'm talking about? We all do stop What bill legend you? grow up I Mean what wild bill? Yeah, he's right
Starting point is 00:31:37 We're talking about uncle Greg What do you need to apologize to the audience for for something that happened on the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody with it was a it was poor timing on my part it was fantastic no okay my gripe of wrath this week was to rail against parents and coaches who turned their uniformed kids into money whores if I'm being honest to beggars who are outside a supermarket entrance begging money from people who walk in. I ran into that at the Panther game two days ago. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I don't like that, okay? I don't like that. But that was a very popular opinion because earlier in the show I happened to mention that my wife and I had just been to a Michelin star restaurant at the Four Seasons and spent more money on a dinner then i have ever spent in my entire life loves having a very expensive dinner and then what kind of dinner was it it was you know is is a new it was one of those nine or
Starting point is 00:32:39 twelve i don't know what what what do you know what you're eating like how wonderful was it was all are You love telling people this, so what is the genre of food you're eating? Well there were, as you can imagine from a 12 course meal, it was all different things, including wagyu beef and. It was just my dad having such a blind spot for one minute bragging about $375 per person, and then like five minutes later,
Starting point is 00:33:04 ripping these kids for asking him for a dollar outside of Publix. Oh my God, your father is disgusting. It turns out to be accurate. No, but your father in terms of entitlement is one of the great white men I've ever seen. And then it was great. His logic on donating, he's like,
Starting point is 00:33:20 if it's my kids team, I'll donate. And I'm like, you realize with that logic, nobody would ever donate to any team. It's so great, it's my kids team, I'll donate. And I'm like, you realize with that logic, nobody would ever donate to any team. It's so great. It's so great. Your father is awful here as a 70 year old man who's about to- If it was my granddaughter, I'd give $5. You're panhandling.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Here we go. Have a car wash. Here we go. Give me something for the transaction. If I'm giving you $10, wash my car. Well, don't they usually have candy they're selling you for? Zaz, I'm going to need you to stand back, sir. Stand down stand down. No Zaz is right. No I'm asking if they do. The Girl Scouts if I give them five dollars they give me a box of cookies you know since when do you just could you give me money and they all have a bucket or
Starting point is 00:33:57 something. Okay so I am they all have a bucket or something ladies and gentlemen. These kids don't want to learn they don't want to earn know, they're looking for a handout. The best is my dad also falls on both sides. He's on both sides of the argument. He doesn't have cash, but he doesn't also do the, oh Venmo, you have a barcode, I don't have that, and I don't have cash. No, I don't do any of that.
Starting point is 00:34:20 You know what I've done? I've mastered the art of pretending to be on my phone. Oh, that's terrible. Oh, wow. Wait, can you show us how, wait, wait, show us how you do it. So Dan, go ask him for a dollar. No, wait, no, wait. Let's see how Greg fakes it.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Okay, can we recreate this in another room, please? Because I'd like you all to experience, okay, what an entitled classist my friend Greg Cody is, who has no problem telling you down his nose about the expensive wines He had that he doesn't understand and the gourmet spices that he had because they cause hundreds of dollars I've never spent so much on a meal. That's crazy excess Also as I'm leaving I fart and burp on the person asking me for a dollar as I leave the Michelin What accent is that five-star restaurant.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Who are you? It's obnoxious, arrogant, entitled Greg Cody. I raise my kids not to panhandle. Here, we can do it right here. Hey, hi sir, I'm with the Sunrise football team. Can you donate to my team? Sorry, I'm on an important call. Oh, oh, well.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Can you maybe on the way out? Maybe? Yeah, the McGillicuddy file is in my upper drawer. Oh, wow. You can't do it. Is that your go-to? Like like what's your go-to? I'm not really on the phone. Like what do you say do that? Yeah, the go-to is because you only you actually say McGillicuddy
Starting point is 00:35:31 No, the goal the go-to is I'm walking into public right now. I'll probably be home in about 20 minutes Do you need a carton of eggs? Even though they're really expensive now. Okay. Yeah, I'll get you a couple of dozen eggs I hope you actually put your phone up and not just use your hand You know, I use my hand their kids. They don't know any better It's weird that like people go to these fancy restaurants because like a tire company told them to right? That's true. It is the Michelin tire. It's the same company like that is that's a weird thing It's like well the tire company said I gotta go. So scandalous. You've got it exactly right
Starting point is 00:36:02 And by the way a week after winning that Michelin star, this restaurant pretty much doubled their prices. Wow. And we fell for it anyway. Alright, so again, Greg dying to tell you this story. Dying to tell you that he dined better than the peasant man. I will say this in Greg's defense. There is a couple times where I'm on the street I'm at the stoplight and then I see a gentleman who is not of a youth football age Go on who's walking up to me and got the helmet and I'm like buddy
Starting point is 00:36:34 I don't think you play football buddy. I don't know what you're doing with this. I don't like it It's right for scams though. That's that's the one thing I will give you Greg correct And by the way, I wasn't dying to tell people how much money I spent on dinner. The internet just criticized you for not, for your blind spot of, I had a rich dinner and I don't want to get $5. Oh, you don't. But it came up on my podcast. Chris.
Starting point is 00:36:55 The Greg Cody Show. So what's the apology? The apology is the timing of it was bad. The timing? I should have had better foresight. Not the message, though. Well, I don't think the message is bad. That's not an apology. And I don't think most people disagree with me. Chris, can we get the PR firm of McGillicuddy? And I don't think most
Starting point is 00:37:14 people disagree with me. It's not just an apology. It's doubling down. Okay, parents, I'm talking to parents and coaches now of youth sports athletes Earn the money that you're asking for have a car wash have a bake sale Sell lemonade of an old-timey stand on the sidewalk out front of your house do something to earn the money Don't just teach your kids Which I never did to go out to total strangers with your hat in your hand and say could you please give me money, sir? Why do you think your son has a career in this business? You gave him to me and that's been you panhandling for 20 years I I think that's apples and oranges some it's exactly the same thing you think your son is qualified for the job
Starting point is 00:37:59 He's presently and of course you think he's the best person in all of America to run this one of the great sports shows of all time Yeah, well, that's a little bit of an exaggeration Job because he's been he's corporate nepotism welfare, okay who hired him you did no you did by being my friend We put him in a job. He's totally ill This ends up on your kid. He's right here. That's actually like double nepotism. He's a youth thing. Double nepotism. You take care of Greg because he's your friend,
Starting point is 00:38:31 and then you take care of Greg's son because Greg's your friend. And what of it? And Grayson's starting her internship next week. Why are you putting this on other people? It's what we've built. It's Greg Cody's entitlement saying, hey, you know how good I am at this thing? And this is what drives Zaslow crazy. You guys don't understand. You really don't. What
Starting point is 00:38:49 a wonderful gig we've had. Zaslow is fundamentally offended by how your father treats this job as if he's such a stellar talent that he should be allowed to dine in all the best restaurants and tell the panhandler I'm too big for you so that he can do what Bert Kreischer and his buddy on two bears can do when they're breaking Wait, whatever they're from their audience because they refer to their audience as the poor Okay, let me let me tell you something libertarian because you're always taking all credit for everything. I earn my money and because you're always taking all credit for everything. I earn my money and approximately half of 1% of the money I earn comes from the LeBotard show and me doing this show, okay? And that's a fact.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Granted, most of the money is made by my wife, but still. That's a fact, Jack. Well, you know, that kind of thing. But he's emotional. And you know it. When you get emotional, you forget your catchphrases. Okay. I don't forget them. I just like to parse them.
Starting point is 00:39:46 You know, I like to separate them. Zazzle, I love him and his son, but Zazzle, you've been fascinated by this particular tree in our environment for a long time. I think, yeah, I think you guys are lucky. I think you get in here and you're fiddling around with your microphone and you're showing up late. It'd be like if I wrote a column in crayon.
Starting point is 00:40:06 What time did you get here yesterday? 8.59. Time to show start. I was here at 8.25. Oh. Oh, it's not just a dick off, it's a punctual off. I am punctual, okay, and I don't rattle my microphone. I'm prepared.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I have topics. I'm a professional. You do rattle your microphone. I'm prepared, I have topics. I'm a professional. You do rattle your microphone. No I don't. When he's asked to by his son. And then his son starts playing sounds, trying to convince him they're coming from his computer. Yeah, your computer was beeping last week.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Yeah, and that was a fake, and I exposed it as a fake. Yeah. That's journalism right there. Pretending to go like this, yes, thank you. Investigative journalism. Billy knows. Yeah. Billy gets it. Hell yeah, dad, I'm good. For those of you who are looking inside, Yes, thank you. Investigative journalism. Billy knows. Yeah. Billy Gansburg. Hell yeah, dad.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I'm good. For those of you who are looking inside, this thing needs to keep churning, baby. DraftKings needs us to pump it out and we are pumping it out. Whether alarms are going off and whether the building's on fire, we're gonna keep it moving.
Starting point is 00:40:56 But I want you to know that this particular fire is real. The connection between Greg Cody and Chris Cody, lest it felt disrespectful what it is I was just doing and saying around my friends who i love and then greg can get prickly about this stuff i realize is one of the most valuable things metal art media has because the people who ride with us most firmly know that this show road in protection of love and friendship so the chris cody could be in an executive producer job in which he's totally overwhelmed
Starting point is 00:41:29 Overmatched It's too big a job Mike Ryan just wants to watch it from the corner He doesn't even want to do it anymore. Nobody wants to executive produce the monster lebatard. He's out of control. He's sermonizing Bruce the monster, Levitard, he's out of control, he's sermonizing. Slowing down, he's going crazy. Why would he go crazy? It's not like America's going to shit or anything. How's your ankle? That legitimately, here, Tony, I wasn't acting. Like, you know, you know that my ankle gave there. It was the shoes, I think. Low-cut shoes. I thought it was your Achilles.

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