The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Sanibel is GONE?!?!

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

Is Bad Boys 4 the Will Smith comeback tour? Have you seen a Fast & Furious movie? Did you ever confuse Mr. Bean with Gollum? Then, we have to get from Climate Change to Jimmy Butler, but the crew finds a path. Izzy Gutierrez is here with us to discuss a potential Jimmy Butler extension coming from someone other than the Miami Heat, living near Lionel Messi, and owning a boat. Plus, Charlotte is having a DAY. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. Since Amin got here at the same time that Jimmy Butler did, Amin Elhassen has been telling us that Jimmy Butler is better than Miami thought he was. I've been here a lot longer than Jimmy Butler has butler. No but i'm saying when jimmy butler arrived here and you got here to talk about it upon jimmy butler's

arrival you since the beginning have been correcting us telling us that he's better than we thought he was i see that he now has a cameo with leonel messi in bad boys and i really haven't seen not in bad boys i believe just in the marketing campaign around it in the marketing campaign around it in the same way that Nikola Jokic is not actually in Despicable Me, he's just in the marketing campaign around it.

Is this gonna be a big movie? Bad Boys? Yeah, like how big is this gonna be? They've been disavowed by their government. This is the Mission Impossible. What? This is the Mission Impossible part. They've been disavowed by their government?

Wait, have they really? Yeah, like they're on the run, they're fugitives. Fugitives? I'm telling you man This is not a second because I know that they're like they're you know Whatever their police chief or whatever the guy is the little guy's name Joe Joe Pants Yeah him like I know that he was like always mad at them and he was they were always causing a headache How did you blow up a boat? Yeah, so like they're always on the outs But like now like not just like police department, the government has dis-abouted.

They are fugitives of the law. Well, how hard could they be to find? His family somehow on a police salary lives on Star Island. How hard could it be to find? It's because he comes from well-to-do means. No, no, not Martin Lawrence. Martin Lawrence, his family lives on Star Island. No, they don't.

Yeah, they do. You look at the house, it's on Star Island. Is it? Yeah, his backyard is water, it's crazy. Movie magic, Billy. It's insane. By the way, first pitch next week, Will Smith and Martin Lawrence at the Marlins game. Wow!

Yeah. Let's go! Well I'm not gonna be here. Well you can come, I mean. NBA finals. And fly in. But what are you gonna do, you're gonna come just to watch him throw out the first pitch?

Yeah and then leave, that's what everyone else does. I think it was described as a takeover, I don't know what that means. Oh, that means they're gonna get the- It's bad boy stuff. They set the lineups. Well, I mean, if they're still disavowed by the government, they're telling the authorities where they're gonna be.

They should be easy to get, you would think. Billy's spoiler, or they get it all sorted out by the end. Joey Pants was actually the manager of the baseball team that Chicken Little was on. I believe that. And there goes the skipper, Joey Pants. Did you call him Joey Pants because you're afraid to pronounce his last name there goes the skipper, Joey Pants. Did you call him Joey Pants because you're afraid to pronounce his last name?

That's his nickname, Joey Pants. I know, but are you afraid to pronounce his last name? He is. I don't know what his last name is. It's Pants, I think. It is not Pants. It's Joseph Pants. Mr. Pants?

Mr. Pants, yeah. Ister Pants is my father. Is this gonna be like the Will Smith comeback tour? Like this is, he's the ad. It already is. Yes it is. But we're good, everyone's fine? It's already is the ad campaign that Dan is talking About Jimmy Butler walks through the door says I'm Jimmy Butler and will looks at him says

Did you just say your actual name and I was like, you know what man? I've been mr. Comedy and got to protect the comedians on it. I'm back in I'm back in on this Does he have to let like I feel like his comeback is completed for like, he goes a little gray, right? Cause like, it's too much. No, no, no, no. It's too, it's too dark. He's shaming him for the, for. I'm not shaming, I'm just saying like,

you wanna come back, I feel like, I don't understand why everyone's still mad at Will Smith. I don't get that. That's like a whole aside. Like, yeah, you know, he slapped someone. Chris Rock, but like, we loved Chris Rock that much, that this was this was like such a crime like I didn't know Chris Rock was this beloved Figure in America that you can't touch him in the face That is not a take I've heard anywhere else you're you're really just arguing on behalf of it's time to forgive him

You're not saying it's not that bad what he did right? I mean, I don't know I think it's a body of work thing more so than the slap. I think there's been a lot of crap movies, done a lot of stuff where it's going, eh. So we banned him from the Oscars for crap movies, not because he slapped. Like, they were just looking for a reason. Even though that night they gave him an Oscar,

they were like, you know what, but we could take a little break for this. I'm gonna tell you right now. You know what? Tell me. You know what told me that Will Smith has done, he doesn't go gray or anything forgiveness is already done

he got the seal of approval from kev on stage in tony baker to the funniest guys in comedy and once they gave the seal of approval will smith will smith is cool i mean i don't know if it's over yet though i think this is this over and orchestrated campaign to get him back to work and bad boys for has to be you know decent. No it just has to make a lot of money. Exactly right that's it right there. It can be bad. Exactly it could be bad boys. It just has to be popular. They really dropped the ball calling the third one

bad boys forever. So dumb, no foresight. What do they think? Look at the Fast and Furious model there's always gonna be another one. Four bad four boys was right there. That's true. Bad boy foresight also. Hold on if there one or bad four boys was right there. That's true bad boy for sight Also, hold on if there was four bad four boys, who do you add to the mix? Who are the other two boys? Kev On Stage and Tony Baker. Okay. I don't know that studio heads I feel like they'd they'd want like Chris Hemsworth and no Chris Hemsworth would be like the other like police officer in the bad one the crooked one

Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably the crooked one, but the one that Joey pants likes and thinks on the up-and-up I've got Joey pants his name by the way Joey well Joe Pantaleano That makes sense yeah pants pants. Well you saw that I mean never answered my question right? He's a he's a wily one I I sort of was trying to get him to pronounce Joey's name or try to and he just did what Stu gots does in that chair which is that's why I call him Joey pants Dan Oh Joseph pants Joseph pants wait wait wait oh yeah Joey Joseph did you say he's Wiley cuz he lives in Arizona I did not oh the

thing that I was trying to get to before we talked about bad boys forever that was the name of bad boys 3, Bad Boys Forever, so this would have been the one to make Bad Boys 4 ever. By the way, I want to point out, Billy, you try to say, oh, it's like The Fast and the Furious had the whole formula. Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't Too Fast Too Furious the third Fast and Furious movie? You're wrong.

Sure, which is why Four Bad Four Boys is still on the table. Why do you think it's the third one? Isn't Tokyo Drift a sequel? No, that was the third one, but then there's like a whole thing where if you look on a timeline, they were released not in sequential order, and Tokyo Drift, while it was the third one that was made,

and Vin Diesel, spoiler alert, was only in it at the end because he was trying to get the rights, I believe, to Chronicles of Riddick like he then owns it for appearing in Tokyo Drift if you look at Tokyo Drift while again it doesn't really have anyone from the first two in it one of the most important ones in the ten because it connects everything together yeah it's the only one I've seen really why I don't know I haven't seen any fast Hiring to co whose these shows sorry

His mind is blown getting back to the story. I was trying to get to here and My god was that an explosive or a firecracker Jeremy had also said he had never seen one which sent Billy to the rafters Yeah, I've never seen one. I just found out that there's the fast and the furious and then also fast and furious. Why? That's enough for you people. Wait a minute. I thought that was an accident, Billy.

So Billy as the executive producer just fell on his back, feet in the air. My mind was blown, it was a throwback. Okay, but yes, your mind was blown, but you were the only one who heard what Jeremy said, so you were reacting to something that made Charlotte genuinely fear that Vince Coleman had rolled a grenade in here.

I was worried about you, Ben. Because there was, you remember, it was lit. The wick, yeah, there was a wick. John Wick, that's another one. I haven't seen the John Wick. I have seen some John Wicks. I've seen, I think I saw the second in theaters. Try watching the first one, it was boring.

It's pretty, I don't do well with violence, so that was an interesting choice. Why? Why don't I do well in violence? Yeah, it's fake. Yeah, but it makes me feel like. Yeah, I get it. What is that?

What's that feeling? You know, like. There is one I do that with. If you knife someone in the movies, I get uncomfortable. That'd kill Bill Guy, Dan? The knifing of people. uncomfortable. Oh, the pencil to the head. Not a Kill Bill guy, Dan? The knifing of people. You know what, let me think about it.

If samurai swords do this for me as well. Oh yeah. Big knife. Yeah, but it's not quite the same in Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill. It doesn't feel the same to me as just the sound and the ripping that comes with a knife and a stabbing.

Not even a samurai sword makes me wince the way that does. Brother, have you watched Shogun? Because when they do seppuku, oh my god, man. That is great. There is gurgling, brother. There's a lot of gurgling. Yeah, I can't handle it. There's funny violence, right? Like, there is, like, you could behead someone in a funny way. Like Wile E. Coyote.

Will Smith Getting back to what I was trying to say But because now Billy is just shocked that we have three people in here that between them have seen one Fast and the Furious movie Tony how many of these have you seen are you you being Billy's ally here? Cuz I haven't seen men. In fact, I haven't seen one start to finish. I've seen pieces of a bunch of them. I've seen probably three or four of them. Most recently the one where they have a giant safe that's like the size of like a football stadium.

Spoiler alert. That they drag through the favelas on a chain. Spoiler alert. Very strong chain, by the way. And then there's a helicopter too. That was one of the best ones. You wanna watch that one, that's a good one. Which one's that, eight?

No, that's five. Safe the size of a football field? Yeah, it's a massive safe, that's five. Safe the size of a football field? Yeah, it's a massive safe. No, it's not the size of a football field. Proportions in Tony don't. Oh, oh right. Tony did once draw me a picture of the pyramids. Oh, that's right, the Wi-Fi?

To prove they had Wi-Fi. Were they square? Yeah. Between all of us, we have not seen half as many Fast and the Furious as Billy. Well, there's spinoffs too. Hobbs andoffs to Hobbs and Shaw Hobbs and Shaw great movie I would argue that's one with the Rock it's well there's a couple with the Rock and then he left but spoiler alert he appeared at the end of the last one because the last

one was the last one but it was part one of two of the last one if that makes sense is he Hobbs or Shaw he's Luke Hobbs. Okay, so he's Hobbs. I've seen that one. Put it on the pole, please. What's the British guy? Jason Statham. Statham. Oh, good voice. Have you guys seen the Beekeeper? I wanted to watch it on the flight. Dude, I laughed so hard that entire movie. It is hilarious. It is the best comedy ever. What's the Beekeeper? It's Jason Statham doing Jason Statham things. Yeah. Is he keeping bees? Yes, he is, but he's also it's a code name for like's Jason Statham doing Jason Statham things. Yeah. Is he keeping bees? Yes he is, but he's also, it's a code name for like some CIA operative.

Oh I love operative. Wetworks stuff, yeah. Statham has like the funny violence and then he has also like the violence, violence. It's like there's a little too much, I don't need to watch this. I also saw on Netflix, Dan, I'm sorry for this derailment, we'll get back in just a second.

I also saw on Netflix, there's this movie with Mr. Bean, Rowan Atkinson. It's like a mini-series where there's just this bee that's tormenting him. He's house-sitting and he destroys this house just trying to get this bee out of the house. It's crazy. And I don't think there's very many words in it at all.

See, Charlotte's got no problem with that kind of violence. What is that supposed to mean? I have to confess that I thought Mr. Bean, for a while, this, oh man. Stay on track, Charlotte. Try not to get distracted. No, I'm just really embarrassed. It's an emotional confession.

I'm really embarrassed about what I'm about to tell you, which is that I thought Mr. Bean was the guy who played Gollum in Lord of the Rings. I thought Mr. Bean was Andy Serkis. Did anyone play Gollum? I thought it was like a CGI thing. Oh, it was Andy Serkis. And then any time I see Andy Serkis. Did anyone play Gollum? I thought it was like a CGI thing. And then anytime I see Andy Serkis in a movie,

I'm like, why is Mr. Bean in this movie? I can hear them cackling out there. I mean, it's funny. I can hear them cackling. But do you see Andy Serkis, Roanack, is that his name, Roanack? Rowan Atkinson. Yeah, Mr. Bean.

I was like, it is crazy that Mr. Bean is Gollum. I also think Mr. Bean only had like 12 total episodes or something like that. No way. Yeah, look it up. Ahead of his time. It's like a crazy short run, Mr. Bean, but everybody would see just the same episodes

over and over again and you thought like Mr. Bean has at least 150 episodes and it's like 12. Wow, so Gollum was a real person. That's Andy Serkis. Andy Serkis plays a lot of like creatures with mocap stuff, but he also plays himself sometimes. Can we look that up? Please put it on the poll. Did you know that Mr. Bean only lasted 12 episodes because I did not think that was accurate.

And he doesn't talk. That's like Gilligan's, well he does talk. Well he doesn't really talk. As a kid I was like why isn't he talking? What's the bid here? I don't get it. Why is he not talking? Come on. As a kid you all. As a kid yeah I was confused by like. I'm going to tell you my favorite Mr. Bean skit. He goes into a locker room, he's going to the pool,

he sees a guy with sunglasses on, he's like, I've got a train going on, and he tries to change into a swimsuit without ever getting naked. At one point his underwear's like on his shoulder and stuff, and finally he does it, and the guy with the sunglasses stands up, pulls out a walking cane, and he's like... He's blind.

Oh my God, I laughed so hard, man. They showed his butt a lot. Mr. Bean? Yeah, his butt out a walking cane. He's blind. Oh my God, I laughed so hard, man. They showed his butt a lot. Mr. Bean? Yeah, his butt showed a couple times. I remember thinking about it. Hubba, hubba. Mr. Butt. I don't know about that.

There was also a Mr. Bean movie, and there was a Mr. Bean spy movie, Johnny English, that I think was a trilogy. Johnny English was awesome. I loved Johnny English. Johnny English was great, because he was basically Mr. Bean, but an international spy. Johnny English, great.

Talked a little bit more in that one. Put it on the poll, please. John Malkovich was the bad guy. How did they get him? Who knows? Crazy. That guy's had some bad roles. Mr. Bean lasted 15 episodes.

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are going to have their ass you know what in Boston you know stugots they were wrong they were are they going to lose a job no are they going to get a cutting pay no what are they going to do keep predicting what is the obvious they're going to say oh the nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude. And you know what? The heat are going to win it all. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. I know that the audience is tired of hearing me talk about the doom and gloom of climate change, but the other day I-95 flooded out of nowhere and I didn't think I-95 was something that could flood.

I didn't know that that that a major highway that we need to get in and out of an evacuated area could have such an impressive unprecedented amount of rain on it that it can't get away fast enough. And so highway is flooding. The reason I asked the question is, Evacuated area could have such an impressive unprecedented amount of rain on it that it can't get away fast enough It's a highway is flooding the reason I asked the question is did you guys and thank you Izzy Gutierrez for showing up here? We have a portal that whenever we're talking Jimmy Butler We get one of the best analysts anywhere in basketball to just flume through here and sit down in the seat We're so close to talking about Jimmy Butler last segment. You just got to find that transition from climate change about Jimmy Butler last segment. You just gotta find that transition

from climate change to Jimmy Butler. That's all I've gotta do. I like how he was like, I'm gonna talk about the I-95 being flooded, and he looked up and he said, oh Izzy's here! Well they pressed the button, they brought him in through the portal, and I'm like, why is he here?

Oh, I was trying to talk about Jimmy Butler before. Did you guys feel the storms that came through here last night, where out of nowhere, it was 60 mile an hour winds. Did anyone, because there are things happening on my balcony that I have never seen happen on my balcony before. Yeah, I live just off of the inner coastal and the water. I mean, I mean, no, I have a boat.

And so, right. Wow, wow, wow, this guy, look at me, Louie over here. Lord and us, captain, geez, Louie over here. Gordon Husk taps in, geez, Louie. All right. Look at me, Louie. Oh, guy. And so there are times where randomly, and this is just over the last year,

and I think we talked about this, you guys talked about this last year, where there was all of a sudden a tropical storm. No warning, just a tropical storm. And there's like these boxes that we have to have by the boats. And all of a sudden you wake up in the morning and that box has floated like halfway down

the parking lot there. And I don't know what everyone's supposed to do with that. Like I don't have a warning for this storm and all of a sudden all this equipment's just ruining everybody's traffic. It's just absolutely insane. This place has been around forever and never had these types of weather issues.

Every time, like that storm you're talking about, Izzy, shocked the hell out of me because I've never been in a hurricane. And I was like, is this what it's like? You guys live through this shit every year? No, 60 mile an hour winds is about three or four times less than what the worst of those can be. I know, but that blew my mind.

I'm like, I can't imagine this being my norm. Like, oh, summertime, okay guys, batting down the hatches. Oh yeah, hurricane season's right around the corner. June 1st, we already got in the mail, if you live here locally, like the hurricane preparedness guide that comes with the little things that you hang on your door, like okay, not okay.

As if, if I was in a situation, my door would be there, and you'd be like, oh,'s see here, everything's flooded. It's like a hotel, please do not disturb. Exactly right, that's what it is. Riding out the hurricane, having fun. Yeah, you hang it. Like as you're drowning in your house, it doesn't say not okay, so you must be fine in there.

Well this is the time of the season though, like tis the season, welcome to hurricane season, right around the corner, oh tomorrow, right? How many days are there in May? Well don't say hurricane season too many times, because Mike might come bursting in. No, God no. Izzy, is your boat okay? Yeah, is your boat okay? That's what I care about. The boat's okay, the cover doesn't really stay on. Well don't say hurricane season too many times because Mike might come burst again

I care about the boats. Okay, the cover doesn't really stay on when the wind blows So we got to take the cover up and the Sun beats it up No, it's like a off-white Not Hirachi do you guys I'm assuming just by the judgment that I feel coming my way, you guys do not prepare for hurricane season. Like for June 1st, you do not get your supplies. You just wait until the last moment. I will tell you, I will tell you that my,

the place where I live is in no way prepared for what it is that is coming. The storms that are being predicted, this is supposed to be the most ravenous hurricane season ever. The ocean is way too hot and that is dangerous. What do you guys? I feel like they say that every year.

They said that last year, Dan. All the time. We didn't get anything last year. This entire room of rumped up. I thought I ate. Oh, last year they said the same thing. You guys are screwed. I thought it.

I'm not gonna say it, cause I don't wanna be the one that's in the clip that gets played when the Big one comes but we have been hearing it for a couple years that it's gonna be an overactive hurricane season and it's not Mounted to very much at least not here Which is the thing because we're just kind of looking at it through our eyes like I didn't get hit by a hurricane It was an easy. I am not a place that I vacationed as a child Sanibel Island has been wiped off the earth because it's-

Wait, Sanibel's gone? It's in space now. They rebuilt it by the way. It went into space. I went over there, Dan, oh they rebuilt it. They did rebuild it. We will rebuild. It was wiped off the earth temporarily.

That's an island I've heard of. The crazy thing is, is when those things happen, how quickly they rebuild bridges. And it's like, well why did it take four years the first time? You rebuilt it in three weeks. Bridges, I love bridges. Really? Yeah, I really love bridges.

Okay, good commentary. Miles Bridges and Kil Bridges. I don't know where she is in this segment. She is just having these stray thoughts that are coming out and I- Love boats, love bridges. The thing that I- Hope they're both okay.

Big segment for you. Hobbit girl. The thing that I was trying to get to with Jimmy Butler The cameo that he's doing that you're telling me is not even in bad boys. It's just part of the marketing for bad boys there was a time in South Florida where if Ace Ventura was in town there was only one athlete to get you would get Dan Marino And while Amin has been telling us that butler is a superstar since he got here what's happened in miami that makes him the athlete they go to when bad boys is in

town i'm seeing messy in a commercial speaking at uh... english nobody's heard him speak first time ever that well i don't think i'd i think he did a lot of practice for those couple of words i don't need these two i don't think he knows english i of practice for those couple of words. Like I don't. I don't think he knows English. I think he just did it to bring Will Smith back. But I did not have him becoming this kind of superstar in this market that would be that representative of this market.

Cause there haven't been many athletes who get to play the cameos on behalf of Miami where you're saying, oh, Will Smith, he should, he's so powerful. He can get Jimmy Butler and messy to come do his movie. You have now Pompeii, forgive me because I don't know he's Pompeii on Sixers reporting that his names Keith. This. Thank you.

The 76ers are willing to give Jimmy Butler the full max if they land him. This is credible reporting. I assume, as with many leaks involving the Sixers, that this is coming from Darrell Maury, because there's some very strategic placement of Jimmy Butler news that comes from some places that always makes me assume it's Darrell Maury trying to see if he can get in the Jimmy Butler sweepstakes. But I wanted to hand the floor to Izzy Gutierrez and our experts here on what you make of this

making an appearance right now. But if you're gonna give me the floor, question for you, are you saying that Jimmy Butler and Leo Messi are the same level of fame? I'm just saying that right now in Miami, you've got those two, and if Messi hadn't been here, Jimmy Butler was the only one you could go to. Charlotte, you might be impressed by this also, I live near Leo Messi.

I'm very impressed. He is effectively my neighbor. Wow, wait a minute. Wow, cool. What do you mean effectively? I say effectively because I live in a condo community, literally the very next guard gate entrance is where Leo lives.

I was hoping you were gonna say he lived on a boat. No, I have taken my boat by his house and I've seen his boat. I've actually seen him playing soccer with his kid, but I try to look the other way. I don't be like, you know, I don't want to look at him, Louie. But ever since people got wind of him living there, there are just fans who camp out, post up, camp out right in front of the community. They have no idea what kind of car he drives, because I see them and they look into every expensive car,

and they just spend hours hoping that he rolls down his window and maybe signs something. I don't think that's happening around Jimmy Butler's house. It must have been a relief to get them away from your house. Well, the funny part is, is the first guy I saw was in front of our place and I was like What is this guy doing and because he was filming a video and then I saw who's wearing an Argentina shirt And I was like wow it has begun. It's gonna start those three people

They're just yesterday right yesterday's when they played Atlanta There were three people there the day before yesterday all day long clearly never got to see him there from noon until like 8 p.m all day long, clearly never got to see him. There from noon until like 8 p.m. Failures. Makes you a bit sad, right? So sad. Yeah. Like I wanna go give them some food.

You should sign the jersey. Tell them that you're a messy. I don't think that will work. Messy. Who is messy? Tell them you're a messy platter. Charlotte, what's going on with you? What is happening? You ask me as if this is surprising.

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scream are we winning games yet? This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats Izzy, Jimmy Butler I keep trying to get to this and the whole show is playing defense against I've been for 20 minutes I've been trying to get to the Sixers are reportedly making a play for Jimmy Butler. Did that end horribly? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Why would he go back? No, he would only go back for Joel Embiid. He wouldn't go back for that general manager

who James Harden had cursed up and down. He wouldn't go back for that team. The time I knew Jimmy Butler was gonna leave Philadelphia, he was going out for halftime, he was leaving the locker room, and it was a late season game. He's looking at the stat sheet. He just kind of didn't really crumple it all up,

just grabs it between two fingers, throws it up in the air and says, hey, let's go 76ers, in a very sarcastic voice, and walks through the tunnel out on the floor. It just didn't seem like it's for him. I'm with you, Donnis. I don't think that dude's going anywhere. This is all just negotiating. This was all public stuff that Dwayne Wade did

with Pat Riley. He knows how to coach him through this. I don't think it's going to end the same. I don't think it's going to end with Jimmy leaving I don't think it's going to end with Jimmy leaving the way Dwayne did, but he knows publicly he's got to at least ask for what he wants. Yeah, I think the big issue is the amount of money that Jimmy wants, because this all starts from

Jimmy wants an extension on his current Miami contract, and he wants it to be of the maximum variety, right? And we know his games played in the last four years has been less than ideal for this franchise. And we know his age is not exactly spring chicken territory. Five years ago, you guys were like, he's 32 and he's got a lot of miles on him.

Now it's like we've, or however old he was at that time. Now we really have entered that stage where it's like, no, he's of age and he's got a lot of miles on him and to commit That kind of money For a team that's also still trying to find another thing for them here in Miami Like I could see the trepidation there So Jimmy and his agent they've got to find somewhere that is willing to give them his money and by the way That's how they got out of Philly, but that's actually that's how they got out of Minnesota Which is Santa so place that's willing to give us the money when they got to Philly then things happen

And it's like well Miami all along has been trying and trying and trying to acquire them So once it was apparent that Philadelphia was gonna go in a different direction with the money they were gonna pay It's like okay. We're gonna orchestrate this move down to Miami, and the rest, as they say, is history. So, is he your right? But I would say also, oh, they'll make a mess and go if they don't get what they want. Absolutely, because they don't have the same relationship

with Jimmy as they do with Duane, right? Because Duane has been there from the beginning. I don't know about you, I feel this heat on the back of my neck, and I feel like Jeremy just has to there from the beginning. I don't know about you, I feel this heat on the back of my neck, and I feel like Jeremy just has to say something. Maybe it's his breath. I think it started when you said our experts are here,

and I felt like a big fire burned behind me, because he was always back there. The air breaks a lot too, though. Jimmy and Riley and Spoh have lived in sort of this confrontational space since the day that he arrived, because those three all thrive off of confrontation. When you're dealing with this contract extension, we've mentioned before, everyone sort of positions

it as a two year, $120 million contract extension, which technically it would be, but it would also buy him out of a year of a player option. And so the initial reaction here was, well, do you try to force Jimmy to play through this year? Because if he plays very well, he can then opt out, be a free agent, and you could sign him to that sweetheart deal to end his career at whatever the max is because he's still showing it for you.

Or he could opt out and go somewhere else, but at least he's played his best basketball. I think that's sort of what the Heat have looked at here is like, we can put Jimmy in the position to have to play these games and to have to play well, but if there are other teams around the NBA that are publicly saying, or at least through leaks, we'll give you the extension,

it's just to put some pressure on Miami to do it today. Well, yes, also though, like Jimmy, for leverage, needs a place that if Miami says no, if they call us bluff and say no, go for it, he will go. Because otherwise he has nothing. Like in Philly, with Embiid there, who they're very close, they played together,

we saw that work in various ways to certain extents. That's I mean. There were a lot of qualifiers there. Like you really, like we did see it work. It worked, they work. It worked. They worked. It's closer than draw and beat has ever been in the championship.

She's doing the sports thing where like, if she says it works, well how many championships did they win, Charlotte? Did they go to the Eastern Conference finals? No, no, they lost in a game seven. Sounds like they choked. Sounds like it didn't work at all. Sounds like it didn't work, but it did work.

And Jimmy would be happy to be there if he can't, because he wants the money. And if Miami's not gonna give him the money. Does he? And Philly, does he want the money? Does he want the money more than he wants to finish the deal? He's gotta win a championship.

Remember, this is the last place LeBron didn't take a max was here. Why? Because they had built what was obviously a championship team. Jimmy and the Heat have to be on the same page where they say, hey listen, if we can get you Donovan Mitchell without losing Bam or you,

and it means you have to take 47, 46, you gotta do it man, because otherwise it all falls apart. That's, like you're gonna give me Donovan Mitchell, right? This is the Calculon I can guarantee you in Oscar, like I can guarantee you anything, right? Like so, the whole idea is sure, get me Donovan Mitchell and then we can talk, but without that happening, right,

you've gotta create the leverage, realistic leverage. And the reason why Philly is realistic leverage is because A, they have the cap space. The only guys that have under contract are Embiid. I think Maxi, they got a cap hold for him, but we're gonna get him a new deal. And then maybe Paul Reed has a, what do you call it, a non-guaranteed deal, right?

But then B, you know, if we say, hey, Maxie, Jimmy Butler, and Joel and Bede, are those the building blocks for a championship team? Yeah, kind of, like that makes a lot of sense, especially Jimmy's ability to not only be The man so to speak down the stretch But also take a step back and let the other guys do their thing which he likes to do as well So all of those things make Philly a very interesting and obviously there's a there's a relationship as Charlotte said between him bead and Jimmy Butler

They've never stopped liking each other They've never stopped even when they were going through their stuff, like Jimmy's still messing around with him, beat on the side over here. So all of these things, I don't think it's a bluff. I think this is a very real contingency plan, but it's all contingent on a lot of different things. But contingency plan for everybody, because I would say they're not gonna lose Jimmy Butler

without knowing what they're replacing him with. Oh yeah. So it's not just, this is now out, it's in front of everybody. No, not Tobias Harris, Charlotte. I can't wait for him to sign somewhere, man. He's gonna get somewhere and everyone's gonna be like, oh, you guys got Tobias Harris, he sucks, and he's gonna be playing for minimum

and then like midway through the year. You know who's a great pickup? It was Tobias Harris because everyone. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, It was Tobias Harris because everyone. No, no, no, no, no, Charlotte cannot do this. Charlotte, Charlotte. You took him on a Tobias Harris tangent. You've already been taken over the show in your own little element. Do not take him mean with you.

Getting back to what Jeremy was saying about thriving in confrontation, because that sounds like something, but I want to explain to you from Michael Carter Williams what that actually looks like. So when he says that Jimmy Butler likes confrontation with Spoh and Riley, listen to the story that Michael Carter Williams tells about confrontation between Jimmy Butler and Fred Hoyberg in Chicago.

The craziest season I've ever been a part of was Chicago. I love Jimmy. Jimmy's a great dude, but this, this is crazy, bro. Our locker room was bad, bro. It was right in the beginning of the year, too. Everybody was pissed off, upset. Jimmy wasn't getting along with Coach Hoiberg, so we had a team meeting early. But last game, the refs were terrible. Jimmy got a tech, somebody else got a tech.

I think even Taj Gibson got a tech. Jimmy was upset that Coach, that Coach Horyberg ain't gonna get a tech. Coach Horyberg is like, Jimmy, like, this starts with me and you, like, what's going on? And then Jimmy goes, well, one, I think you're soft. Two, I don't like you. And he didn't even get to three.

And Coach Horyberg was like, well, then, f*** you, Jimmy. And Jimmy's like, aw, it's f*** me now. You wanted to know what I want. You wanted to know how I felt. That's how f*** you, Jimmy. And Jimmy's like, aw, it's f*** me now. You wanted to know what I want? You wanted to know how I felt. That's how the meeting started, bro. And I'm sitting over in the corner, I'm like, no. Oh my god.

I'm like, no. I've never heard this in my entire life. Is that the Wade Rondo butler team that hated, everybody hated each other on that team? How common is that, Amin? How common is it for a player to directly tell the coach, I don't like you? You're soft and I don't like you.

I won't say it's uncommon, but I also won't say like it happens all the time. Like that's an unusually direct way, and you gotta understand, this is, I think, Fred Hoiberg's second year. That was not helpful at all, by the way. Oh, it wasn't really, it wasn't really expertise. Not common.

What I'm saying is, I'm not saying, that's the only time this ever happened. And I'm not saying, it happens every single year, every locker room. I know, but I asked for your expertise, not about your impersonations. My expertise is it's not rare, and it's not commonplace. It's somewhere in the middle.

It happened here. Didn't Shaq try to go at Pat Riley, and in the lounge in the morningning had to get in the way? Yeah. And that was him on the way out. And that was Uncle Jerome's famous line, well, I'm going to go pack my bags. He's like, why?

He's like, we're not going to be here much longer. And that's how me and Shaq became best friends. I have told Pat Riley that I don't believe him when he says that he and Alonzo Mourning would get face to face screaming at each other and that Riley would say that he was fine with someone saying fuck you to him as long as you were teaching him something.

You don't believe that? I don't believe he's quite fine with the amount of disrespect that we're talking about when you're telling a coach, your employer, I don't like you and you're soft. That's what the Ke, I don't like you, and you're soft. That's what the Kepler elf said to the Pillsbury Doughboy. Also, I don't think Jimmy screamed it, but I love the idea of someone coming up to Pat Riley

and saying, hey, Pat, if you f***ing square the one leg of a right angle triangle and the other leg of a right angle triangle, that equals to the square of the hypotenuse motherf***er, go f*** yourself. And Pat's's like Pythagorean theorem. I like it. Yeah what is he learning? Billy why did you make that face at Charlotte? Charlotte seems to be hitting a few different notes than we're used to around here. Charlotte came in I've got to say I was very happy to see her at least in part because something

that never happens around here Charlotte comes in here and she says oh that's a very nice wallet. And when I'm looking at it, I'm thinking to myself, it was. Play the sound, please. No, play Wood's sound. Look at me, Louie. Look at me, Louie.

You guys have done nothing but mock my wallet. I don't think I've seen your wallet. Any time. No, but I've had no. You have one of those wallets from IG that you push a button in. Let's see your wallet, Dan. Show us your wallet, Dan. No, because Dan has cash.

So his wallet's like Costanza's. It's like this big. You guys have been mocking me for being the user of a wallet because you say nobody does this anymore. This has never gotten a compliment. Is it bedazzled? What is that thing on the end of it? It's a Mont Blanc.

It's one of the fancy pen wallets. You don't put that in your back pocket, do you, Dan? Your hips are out of line, right, Dan? That's why he's like this all the time. Mont Blanc sounds like water to me. Spring water. Again, Charlotte brings- Do you have another phone in there?

Charlotte brings in a compliment and sunshine and as I bring up her story, look at what you guys bury me in to illustrate the point that any time anything of mine is out in front of people, it's just mockery. So I'm happy to see her sunshine right up until she does Keebler elf stuff that all of us are looking at her on.

When Charlotte passes away, she's gonna get a reaction like Bill Walton. I was gonna say we should do Charlotte's funeral now because Charlotte, well I mean it's a bit more, it's a bit more. Kill Charlotte. More, she's very, no but she's, we were talking about this earlier, she's very nice,

she came in, she was very complimentary, she was like really nice Kill Charlotte. She's very, no, but she's, we were talking about this earlier, she's very nice, she came in, she was very complimentary, she was like really nice to me, she's like it's so good to see you. And I actually said to her, I go, huh, someone's being nice to me. It's weird, right? What a change.

It's weird. And then I immediately said after, maybe I shouldn't be so mean to other people, and then more people see you. Wow, incredible. Impacting the people around you. Exactly right. Just like Bill Walton did.

No, come on, you're making me blush. Why are you doing this? Genesis, who works on the mashing Impacting the people around you just like the long Genesis who works on the mashing of human bodies around here for for healing said yesterday that we have an Abnormally tight group of people that they are all filled with close And it might be because there's not enough Charlotte sunshine around here because this place does not exist on Compliments and I would say I've been saying all my life that among guys insults are the language of intimacy so what I was got you fooled Dan really Charlotte and Billy have this connection it's because they're both evil cats they're both instigators he just happens to be a black cat where maybe it's a little bit more noticeable, and she's just this super fluffy cat that everybody loves, but it's just kinda kicking stuff off the table.

I knew you saw me, Izzy. Yeah, and the thing is, when I see Billy make a face because she's made a Keebler elf reference where Billy's like, what? And I'm looking at Billy's face. But Bill's very doughboy and Keebler elf, same reference. Well, she's got the two eating each other, apparently, because the Keebbler elf says I don't like you and you're soft and so I'm thinking Oh, am I supposed to eat the the big marshmallow? I thought it was a mascot no no it's that they're rivals

Mm-hmm, so they don't like I don't like you and you're soft because the Pilbara Pilbury doughboy Yeah, and you hit and you do the Yeah, that's a tummy thing because it's actually soft as a soft's a soft mask, I put their rivals so they don't like it. It's a layer joke. Isn't that also the Michelin Man? No, cause he's tires. Yeah, he's tires and the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man is another one, but in the Michelin Man kind of

same body type. Stay Puft Marshmallow? Yeah, Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. Ghostbusters? Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Wait a minute, the Michelin Man is not a soft, no, it's a tire. It's made of tire.

But it's white. But it's white and it just looks like fluffy. It looks like I wanna eat him. Yeah, white walls. Put it on the poll please, JujuatLevitarShow, the Michelin man, is he soft or is he hard? Oh, what kind of question is that, Dan? Let's ask Rick.

You sure Dan? It's a poll question. Stiff tire syndrome. Erection year. Oh, baby. Can you guys give me the Jimmy Butler prediction? What do you believe is going to happen here? As Udonis is on first take and Magic Johnson is saying, ESPN, you gotta hire Udonis.

He's great at everything. Udonis is saying there's no way LeBron's leaving LA and he's saying that Jimmy Butler's not leaving Miami. Thoughts? Can we shout out Udonis for being a double dipper? He's on Turner one night, he's on ESPN the other. Way to play it, buddy. See you on Amazon next year.

ABW, always be working. I think Miami is going to get their whatever super team version of Jimmy Butler that they wanted. It's just, they've swung a couple times and missed. This is going to be the off season where they get it. They're best positioned for it. Whale watching is back! Oh. season where they get it, they're best positioned for it. Whale watching is back.

Oh, like, yeah, I get it. Yeah. Charlotte. No, I. Charlotte, when the show swings to you, you have to have a coherent thought spoken into the microphone. Well, the whale watching, I was like, oh, that's funny.

When the show swings to you, Charlotte, you have to speak into the microphone. I do not think LeBron will leave LA, and I think it was very clear, because Brawny is only taking two visits with Los Angeles and with the Suns, and there is no way LeBron is taking minimum with the Suns. We talked about this on Oddball every day but Monday. Put this on the screen, this image right now,

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