The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Strange Bedfellows

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Cam Ward has the chance to become the all-time leading passer in college football history...and he was also one of the great Carolina Hurricanes of all time? Dillon Gabriel also has a chance, so we examine the possibilities of the two QBs breaking the record IN THE SAME GAME. We go to the Bucket of Death and Amin makes a shocking choice. Plus, Amin dives further into the Matt Sluka controversy at UNLV and has some insider information, and Jeremy explains all the madness in baseball to our new friend Greg Hutchison before heading up to the biggest game in CFB this weekend. Also, who actually killed the TV theme song? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Jersey City, New Jersey, please drink responsibly. Welcome to the Big Sui! Presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're

just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. Big sports night in the market. I can see why Tom was the successful one. Huge game. Pack the Rock.

There's a storyline attached to this game between the Miami Hurricanes and Virginia Tech that I want to explore a little bit with Jeremy, but we're trying to pack the rock. Expect upwards of 50,000 people at Hard Rock Stadium. Friday Night Game's always kind of weird. Friday Night Game at the Rock. I don't like it. I gotta be honest with you, I'm not crazy about it either,

but I do like that it's a standalone, especially on a big college football weekend where Alabama's taking on Georgia. All these Georgia games have kinda been around Miami games, so I haven't really had the opportunity to watch Georgia all that much, so I'm excited to be able to watch that. And also, it's my dad's 70th birthday this weekend.

Oh, happy birthday, Papa. So I get to celebrate that with a party at my house for him and not have a Kane's distraction. But if you're interested in going to the game today, we'd love to have you pack the rock. Why don't you check out the Game Time app? Download that Game Time app. This should be a hot ticket.

You can get great deals on this. There's dynamic pricing. Tickets sometimes, the prices go down. The closer you get to kickoff. Create an account and use it for the first time. And when you do, use the code Dan. And you get $20 off your first purchase terms apply download game time today I mean what time is it it's game time whoo now one of the storylines that I want to

talk about surrounding this game is cam ward by the way not enough is made that there was a Hall of Fame goaltender for the Carolina Hurricanes by the name of cam ward it's just it's just odd was like an all-time Hurricanes player by the name of Cam Ward, and now you have a Keynes quarterback that is a Heisman favorite. History repeating itself. They need to take a picture or do the Spider-Man point.

Be on the cover of like SI Kids or something together. That would be great. Not full-fledged SI Kids. I don't think that exists. This is like a kid's thing. It's just robots now. AI. So Cam Ward, for his career,

has over 15,000 passing yards. Many Hurricane fans are just discovering Cam Ward. Cam Ward has played at Washington State and before that he was at Incarnate Word. So, combined between FCS and FBS, he has 1,500 passing yards. I was like, that's a lot! Does this guy have a shot?

15,000. 15,000. Yeah, you said 1,500. I'm sorry, yeah, 15,000 passing yards. I'm like, that's a lot. Does this guy have a shot? 15,000. 15,000. Yeah, you said 1,500. I'm sorry, yeah, 15,000 passing yards. I'm like, that sounds a lot. What's the record? The record is held by Case Keenum, who's at 19,000 and what? 217.

19,217. Did he play six years or something? How'd he get that many yards? Case Keenum, he played a lot. Played four seasons. Aired it out for the Cougs. Aired offense. The 15,000? Yeah, K-Mord has 15,000. played a lot. Played four seasons. Aired out for the Cougs. Aired offense.

15,000? Yeah, K-Mord has 15,000. In fact, you can, so what I'm getting at, Jeremy, is that there are actually two active quarterbacks. And keep in mind, we have the college football playoff, it's expanded, so there's extra games this season. We actually have two quarterbacks that have an outside shot at breaking Case Kingdom's all-time record when he combined FCS and FBS, in particular to Cam Ward. The

other quarterback's done all his damage at FBS. Dylan Gabriel is the other quarterback, started his career at UCF, then went to Oklahoma, and now at Oregon. He actually has even more passing yards than Cam Ward has. Cam Ward's at 15,313 if you combine his FCS and FBS passing numbers. For Dylan Gabriel, I believe that number now is 15,779. Now Cam Ward has eight regular season games left. Dylan Gabriel has nine regular season games left. So, if you do the math on where these guys would need to go, how deep they would need to go into the playoff, and what their averages would need to be

in order to be able to break this record, Cam Ward off the bat, if you say, hey, right away, the Canes do what's expected of them now, which is they finish out their regular season, they at the very least go to an ACC title game, and they play at least one college football playoff game. Which they would if they won that ACC. If they won that ACC title game, they would do that.

Cam Ward would need to average 390 passing yards per game, which is quite a bit. That's tough. The average is, yeah. He is presently- He would need to have a couple crazy games. Right, now, through four games, Cam Ward is averaging 360 yards passing.

With a lot of those fourth quarters not being played at all. Correct, and- Victim of his own success. If you look at what, obviously, now they're entering league play, he should be playing through most of those games, but also, if the Canes can find a way to not just win the ACC, but win one college football playoff game

and get to a second, and he just stays at his average, all he needs is 354 passing yards per game to reach the record. Doable. Doable. Doable, what about for Dylan? For Dylan Gabriel, they have nine games to play. Now, his averages, he's in a better spot in some ways.

But he's a less gifted passer. Well, he's in a better spot in a couple of different ways. A, they have more games to play in the regular season. B, there's a stronger likelihood that if Oregon was to make the playoff, it might not be through winning their conference championship, so they may end up as an at large, thus securing the potential for even more games

than Cam Ward can possibly reach. Right, the scenario for Dylan Gabriel is get to the Big Ten Championship game, lose it, play that first round game, win it, and then this record is pretty much yours. Now all these records would probably have a mighty asterisk attached to them because of the COVID season. And the thing with Dylan Gabriel is,

look, in the regular season, all he would need to do, to break this by the end of the regular season, is average 382 yards per game. Now, that's a lot. He's not there right now with Oregon in terms of averages. If you look back at his years at UCF or Oklahoma, those averages, it's getting you there. But he's just over 300 yards per game at the moment.

He's gotta get fat these next two opponents. But he plays UCLA next, and I believe Michigan State before Ohio State. But then if you start to look at his numbers, okay, you get to a championship game. 344 yards per game. If you get to a championship game, 344 yards per game. If you get to a championship game and a college football playoff game,

312 yards per game would get you there. You have an opportunity for both Cam Ward and Dylan Gabriel to break this record, what I think would be incredible. Is if they did it, playing against each other. Oh, dude. You have an opportunity where if Oregon gets in as an at-large team. Oregon against Crissaball which is a storyline in itself.

Especially if the Canes get a bye, Oregon wins a game and gets to play the Canes in the second round of the college football playoff on a neutral field with both players having an opportunity to break the record and the winner would absolutely then get to hold the record because they'd play one more game. That would be a special scenario. Skeens. Skeens. Absolute skeens. That would be amazing. That sounds like a dirty word. I say that in place of scenes. I'm a big Paul Skeens guy. That's a little storyline that no one's talked about. Maybe with reason.

Yeah, I mean, it's fair, but I'm glad we're talking about it. I'm glad we're talking about it first. And it's funny to think back, like for both of these guys, right? For Cam Ward, it starts at FCS. For Dylan Gabriel, like he had a 500 yard passing effort at UCF in a loss to Memphis that was a 50 to 49 game. And those extra couple of hundred yards

because they were playing from behind and just throwing bombs all game long to Gabe Davis are like the reason why he's gonna be in this. So it's crazy to think that that both of these players who have had careers with three different stops in college football could end up being the passing leaders over all of these other guys that, I mean, never transferred, were all at the same school. I wanna go back to something that Mike mentioned earlier, which is the game is tonight, it's a Friday night game. I don't like college football on Friday night.

And the funny thing about that sentiment was I was gonna say, well, come on, man, high schools get Friday night. Then I realized deep down I said, I mean you've never watched a high school football game. I'm watching Bishop Gorman. Why do you care? I don't care, I just want my Friday nights man.

I don't wanna have to deal with like. It's too much football. Just too much football. It was my problem with Packers Eagles in that like I dedicate way too many of my nights to football anyways, give me my Friday so I can be a functioning human with deep interpersonal relationships. I mean South

Ridge versus Homestead tonight though. It's a big one. That's a huge one. The square versus exit one. You guys going? I got a buddy who's going. You're gonna are you gonna be packing the rock? I don't know where I'm gonna be. Hmm can you do both? I can't do both. Too far. One's south, one's north. Can't be in two places at one time. Is the game on ESPNU? Because there's ways to do both. House divided. House divided, yeah, no.

I'm not a golden king. Flash it up on the TV. I know one, though. It's divided. Wait, is the game on TV? Southridge, Homestead, probably not. I don't think so. That doesn't have national appeal.

But a lot of local teams end up on ESPNU on Friday nights. It's crazy because as I think about it, there are so many players that come from Florida and South Florida specifically. A high school game actually would be probably kind of fire. You're going to see like the next, you know, Antonio Brown or whatever. When I was in high school, and that was when Florida, South Florida in particular was the legitimate hotbed of college recruiting. I would spend my weekends going to see, I remember watching Charlie Jones and Bobby Washington,

whose kids play at Miami. He was at Killian, I remember watching Killian. Yeah, we had great running backs here. Braddock had a good running back at the time. We had a lot of talent down here. Willie Williams, Carol City was really good. I would go around town watching these high school games because we had a lot of talent down here. Willie Williams, Carol City was really good. Like I would go around town watching these high school games because we had a lot of great programs.

There was a game I was lucky enough to cover a couple years ago on our show on Bally that was a high school football show. And it was American Heritage against Chaminade Madonna. And the offense of Chaminade Madonna What is a mystery Had Cedric Bailey was their quarterback. Cedric Bailey started. Who's starting at NC State because Gracie McCall is her.

Then you had Darius Geist, or not Darius Geist, I apologize, I forget his last name at the moment. Darius Geist is the wrong guy. But there was a running back that's now at North Carolina. Their wide receiver was Jeremiah Smith. They were all sophomores. He's now at North Carolina. Their wide receiver was Jeremiah Smith. They were all sophomores. He's now at Ohio State. How great was Jeremiah in high school?

Like you already knew. He was spectacular as a 10th grader. He was a bullfrog in high school, man. And you had Kenyatta Jackson was on the defensive end. And Jeremiah Johnson, who's now at UCF, Kenyatta Jackson at Ohio State. Brandon Innis was on the American Heritage Team. Mark Fletcher was on the American Heritage Team.

Josiah Trader was on the American Heritage Team. Innis isn't getting enough shine. Innis was on the American Heritage team Mark Fletcher was on the American Heritage Traders on the American team isn't getting enough shine in this it was a dog they had I just recently went back and looked of the 44 players who started in that game 26 of them ended up at Power 4 Universities wild with scholarships 26 of them That's wild. With scholarships. 26 of them. 26 17-year-olds that you already knew.

Some of them were 15 at the time. It is a wild feeling to look at a 17-year-old football player and be like, that guy is going to be one of the greatest players of all time. Jeremiah Smith, it was obvious. And that's exactly what popped off with Jeremiah Smith. It's crazy. You watch Jeremiah Smith now, and you're like,

that guy could be the greatest wide receiver ever. He's a freshman, and he's already breaking records at Ohio State. You're going to the game of the week though. I am going to the game of the week. Big noon kickoff at UCF in Orlando. UCF versus Colorado. Deion Sanders on campus. Look, you got two of the best players in college football, right?

The best passing quarterback prospect in 2025, and Shider Sanders. You got the best player in college football, and Travis The best passing quarterback prospect in 2025, and Shider Sanders, he got the best player in college football, and Travis Hunter. But the best team. You know Madonna's very litigious, right? Oh shit. Really, is he? Yeah, very litigious.

And very distracting. Like a hope. I mean, the very best team is gonna be UCF. I'm excited, I'm headed up there, I'm gonna be hanging out at Tailgate, hanging out at Big New Kickoff, trying to make some content around all of it. You see that turncoat DJ Khaled.

The fact that DJ Khaled is gonna be performing there makes me excited beyond belief in bringing up some of the kind of South Florida flavor to UCF, it's gonna be a fun day and I can't wait to watch the night's win. And it's exciting for a bunch of recruits that actually get to see Deon Sanders in person because he never actually physically recruits people. Never, never.

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slash Cheez-It for full details. Don Lebatard! If Daniel Day-Lewis did it you'd be jerking off all over yourself. Oh come on. Yeah I would be. Aggressive description. I mean what is it what is that? I'm just saying. You know what? That's me. You're just saying I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln and you know what I do I mean stoogeots. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do Lincoln who you outed the other don't make this a rejoin

This is the done libertar show with these two guys. I don't know what is here today either. Because we had a conversation, it's like let's just, appointment, listening, pick a day, that's how we'll do it. Yeah, randomly, we'll pick a different day every week to do this stupid thing, this bucket of death thing. It's impossible, I'm here for the fans, I'm here for the audience, and I know they wanna follow along.

It's supposed to be random. I've been in it every week. Me too, I hate football every week How many times is sugaats done this never I've done he hasn't done it once no this is this is a bit I don't like it. Well who was who was here yesterday were you here yesterday? No, I was here yesterday Jeremy is here yesterday Chris Cody Just looking at each other and just trying to work really hard.

Dan's not here, do we have to do this? Like we can tell him we did it and he won't know, right? Nah, he watches, he watches. Well, let's pretend to do it. Ah, do do do do do do do. It's so early, it could be a random sample, but if I am handed a sheet with lines and I see that thing in the studio,

I'm flatly not going to participate. Stu Gotz has to do this one of the weeks. This is bull. Yeah. The other thing I want to point out is, back in my day, we used to know what the punishments were. So as you were picking, you were like, you know what, there's a pretty good punishment still on the board.

Yeah. I can afford to be risky here. Now it's like I'm blind. I have no idea what the, what are the punishments? I mean, we have a list of punishments in a doc that I think was sent to everybody was why is it a secret? Why is it a secret? It's time to the fuck out of death

Start is it we don't have a sponsor right? It's just no sponsored by which is another reason Frustrated why we're doing that. I'm sorry the haters. They're under dog You get to pick any underdog on the list Yeah, I'm trying to see here Titans are a dog you get a couple home dogs here you got the Colts a home dog to the Steelers take the Patriots plus center and a half panther no that's not what's happening you know what it Titans the Vikings are are in our line. Commanders, little road dogs. Man, this is making it more confusing.

I'm going to go ahead and take the Bucks. I believe in Baker Mayfield. I'm taking Buccaneers over the Eagles at home. You could also put it back. Yeah, I'm doing it. I'm taking it. So you're not doing it. 10-day Tony.

All right, well, here we go. Let's see. Buccaneers might have been in Batchels. Baker Mayfield beat the Eagles at home in the playoffs last season, so you're not doing it 10 day Tony here we go. Let's see All right, I've got the Indianapolis Colts and I'm quickly putting it back to playing the Pittsburgh Steelers Richardson against that defense. I'm not Already tell you that that's going to be the least aesthetically pleasing game of the week. It's gonna be terrible All. All right, here we go. Well, the Giants Cowboys are going to work. The St. Arunis. Yeah, that's who they got.

They're at the Falcons. To an half point dog. One of the fiercest rivalries in the professional football scene. They travel. St. Arunis are good. Derek Hard didn't play that well. And then there was a murderer in New Orleans.

So blood on your hands. He was playing well. We went like three weeks without a murderer in New Orleans plays poorly death that kind of thing It's his fault the Vikings the Minnesota Vikings. They're at Packers. No That's good You love putting back teams that are really good. Yeah might have a like you do this is a storyline Vikings are really really good I would love for someone to like so we know you're starting this I would love someone to chart Roy's put back on

My chart there's a season. I've charted put back rate. He puts back some winners. No, but what happens? What is one or two so far? That's the question what happens to the put back? I mean historically like you put like so No, the put backs are one into not that what you get Is that the Wizard of Oz? No, it is the big apple. Okay. I'm going with the New York Rangers All right, and the Jets are seven and a half point favorite So you're gonna take the New York they they play a preseason game. Yeah. All right So the next pre someone's got a track look at the New York Rangers preseason game We're in New York Rangers preseason game instead of one of the best defenses in the league and a good offense run by a very good head coach who could win head coach in the end.

Matt Renne is going to get like 16 minutes of ice cream. On a team that's 3-0. No one's going to remember. Yeah, yeah. They are playing the New Jersey Devils. When? On the 30th. Monday. No one's going to remember. Hey, Roy's a hockey guy. He's going to the hockey show later.

I got the Vikings also. This second side away. Wow, keep that. It's a back-up. Yeah, I hate it.? I got the Vikings also. This segment sucks. I hate it. You threw the Vikings back. What are we doing? Is there anything that video production can do to make this segment better? I got the Rams.

Yeah, not good. The Rams? 3.3 at the Bears. 3.3 at the Bears at home. Video production did make this segment better. There's my homie Greg. There it is. Hey Greg awkward Content I get in my segments not so bad now great Lady killer I got the Seattle Seahawks they were on the road Monday football at Detroit I'm gonna put that back even though the Seahawks are three Hawks another team 3 & 0

Probably the best defense in the league, Mike. Three and a half point dog, and it's just primetime crowds. I feel like we've said best defense in the league about three different teams. Seattle has the best defense in the league by numbers if you check the PFF. How automatic. Is this death?

Instant death. Yeah, and people have really been paying their fines. I get the fine bucket. Well, they have been paying their fines. They all go to Jess still for some reason. I don't understand I think we could stop that that's gotta stop. Are we done with that now? What's in the fine bucket? See singles right now

By the way for the you know, a lot of times we like to say for the audio audience Oh, you should look it up on YouTube. We've got this video playing audio audience. me today All right, just listen audio you great three bucks so far. I got the Patriots five Kobe reset ten point dogs to the hugs 49ers at the Niners. Yeah Yeah Understand how Greg Hutchison can bother anybody I don't understand how Greg Hutchison can bother anybody Mike there's a five just came out. Oh, I got the swap helmet Wow swap of Mike Oh wait, wait, no you have automatic death

Another helmet that you're walking. Oh, I death. Yeah, dad Reaper This is don't come back with an attitude. Yeah Greg Where's Greg from I don't know I want to say West Coast of Florida okay, if so teasing That's a thank you for your service. I believe yeah, you can take army. They already won last army already won, okay? So you're like you don't have to so you still have to swap. I still have to swap? Right? You don't have to.

Oh no. The second helmet got stuck with a swap. You reserve the right to swap. How does that work? I don't know. Swap with me. How much money is in the thing? All right, it is currently $9 plus an IOU from Mike,

which is $1, so it's $10. Wow, you keep it at $9. Mike, this swap could cost you a dollar. It could cost you a dollar to swap. Again, if Mike keeps it, $9 like this No, I've got you a dollar it could cost you a dollar this swap again if Mike keeps it to take the nine dollars Who cares if you swap it $10? Yeah, and you can choose the costumes free bugs There we go go down to make and now you get to choose from Jeremy's list all right you owe I mean $1 plus this night, okay, you got it. Thank you, and I'm safe you could put you could put it right here

I think this is the first time in noted history someone has swapped for an automatic Because he knows that no one's gonna actually collect we're gonna make it happen I like money up this year. I like money. I like revenue generation good segment great say other There's a dollar right there. Yeah, keep Greg up though I like Greg and I oh you know he just gave me the bucks. I just gave me was us gun were paid off. I will not be participating in this segment even if I'm scheduled next week, okay This is this is bogus, but you already got a win. Yeah, but I still won't be participating Principle it is like sughats hasn't been in this Only person me and Roy have been in here every week

I've been into every single one of them too because they're always on a Thursday except today They're on a Friday. What the hell man last week is Thursday's Friday. Also, I think or the week before I don't like it man It's fine. I mean, whatever. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna pull a Matt Sluka and just like not take the field Well, that's I was gonna say I like money Like Matt Sluka likes money Matt Sluka is the UNLV quarterback, the best start in school history, the first time they've been ranked in the coaches poll,

everything's great, and then abruptly just said, I'm leaving, I'm not playing, and they said why, and it's because they made promises to him about NIL money that they did not come with, and I know you guys talked about this. According to their side. According to their side. According to their side. I think it's irrefutable that his agent

also dropped the ball here. Yes, and that's the part I wanted to yes and to, because I know you guys talked about this earlier in the week, and like I said, the SLUCA side is that, hey, they promised us $100,000, and now they're pretending like they can't come up with it or they didn't promise it or whatever. The school side is, hey, we never made this agreement,

although, excuse me, an assistant coach may have said something, but he doesn't have the authority to say it. The head coach said, I had no knowledge of this, and as far as I know, we made a deal to pay him three grand a month for appearance fees and stuff like that. Now, the Sluca family's also saying, hey, the reason we came here is because of 100 grand.

We had offers of up to four or five times that from several Big Ten schools, but we came here. I went just, I mean, maybe not to play right away. He was coming from Holy Cross. So, well, I mean, yes, he was coming from Holy Cross, but he was a sought after prospect in the transfer portal. He ended up at UNLV, so a lot of that could be bluster, but I don't mean to impede where you're going.

Is the four or five times four or five times 100,000 or the 3,000? 100,000. That's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. He had turned down $500,000 to go play at UNLV. Billy, there's no way. There's no way.

It's just between us. Well, I mean like. There is no way. It's really impossible. No fricking way. The quarterback from Holy Cross was getting offered a half a million dollars from the Big Ten and decided, nah, I'm good.

I'm gonna go to UNLV. He likes good weather. Not a thing. He likes good weather. Not a thing. Not enough to play. Not a thing. Well, I mean, look, you got principles too.

But I wanted to add to this story because I think I have some inside information about this story. I know everyone's like, well, me and college football, strange bedfellows, but yes, I do. A man of many beats. Because. A lot of people are saying strange bedfellows.

Yes, between me and college football, right? But I got my eyes on not his NIL deal, but an NIL deal from UNLV. And let me tell you something, guys. I was blown away by how ironclad professional contract language it was. It looked like an NBA uniform player contract. Yeah, these are real contracts.

Like, they're absolutely, this isn't like some, hey, well, you da-da-da, it's like, whereas the da-da-da. Part of the issue with SLUCA is that there isn't a real paper trail. There's a verbal offer. Which is honestly on the fault of the agent. Of the agent, because if you have a client, like if you have an agent, at that point there's no such

thing as verbals. Verbals are like, put me in my bowl, you know, or like someone, a personal relationship between two people. It's not, if I have an agent, your whole life is supposed to get everything in writing. You talked about this before, the Joe Smith contract in the NBA that the NBA found out that the Timberwolves signed Joe Smith under the table and they tore it up and they put the Timberwolves in this purgatory, they lost rap picks, it was all started because Joe Smith was promised the money

by Glenn Taylor and Joe Smith's agent was like, I'm worried he might die before, the new ownership won't- Taylor's still around. Yeah, and Glenn Taylor's still around. So they basically put it in writing and that was the smoking gun that the NBA found. They found an actual paper trail.

But in an NIL standpoint, why would you have a paper trail? But it also made me think about this idea that UNLV, if they are at fault here, if they made this promise or whatever, everyone here is operating with some old world rules, right? The old world was like, hey kid, come play here. Yeah, and here's a bag full of money and da da da.

And now it is so organized that like, you can't play by those old rules anymore because they don't matter. I think it speaks to, number one, UNLV doesn't have its house in order, because if you have a good strong collective, things like this never make it out to the public sphere. Even there are disagreements sometimes,

maybe there's winking and nod bonus structures that aren't adhered to in writing. It is your job as a collective to make sure this doesn't happen. Look at just a spotlight on Miami, given the John Ruiz stuff. Miami can't afford to slip up because the entire nation would seize on it.

If Miami had what happened to FSU before the Orange Bowl game, where you have players essentially holding their team's hostage saying, I'm not taking that field unless this stuff gets corrected. It signals like a really dysfunctional collective. And that's what we have here, but also we have an agent that to me

very clearly failed his client. And all of this is going to be used by people to push their agenda. I cannot, I already know what's gonna happen on college game day. We're gonna be sermonized by Nick Saban with a bunch of nodding heads and say this is all bad and everybody in the audience is going to agree because ultimately- No they're not, they're just drunk. Sports fans are just, I think they're gonna agree in that what happened to UNLV and its fan base and that team is super unfortunate.

According to the ESPN CFP analytics, they had a 23% chance to make the expanded college football playoff field. This was a special season brewing for UNLV. Ultimately fans, that team, you're ripping away their feel good because people couldn't get their house in order. And people are gonna use this to say NIL is bad. That's not what happened here.

Brett McMurphy has an update to this story. Yes. Which is that the CEO of a familiar name to us, Circa, Circa Sports. Derek Stevens has reached out to UNLV offering to pay $100,000 to keep SLUCA at UNLV and their playoff hopes alive. Shout out to Derek Stevens, shout out to Circa,

great company, great place. Why do I sound like Trump? But I wanna go back to what Mike said. Mike, I think you're incorrect here in the sense that there's a disagreement, right? The family's pretty adamant, used promises on the grand, and the school, the head coach says, I didn't promise you that. And moreover, if we were to give you this money now that you're threatening to walk, it now violates pay for play rules in the state of Nevada and also NCAA rules. That's not actually real though.

No? No, no. I mean, that's pretty pay for play. I saw the statement in UNLV, nonsense. They can do that. They can absolutely do that. They can actually, they pull you up the money and just pay it?

Absolutely, like it does not hold water. It is a legal move. It is, they can do that. They can just? They can absolutely do it. They can actually, they pull you up some money and just pay. Absolutely, it does not hold water. It is a legal move. It is, they can do that. They can just. They can do that. They can do that. What's happened here, the horse is out of the barn now. I don't think you can bring him back

because he just quit on his team. Sure. Like there's a lot of locker room stuff that you wanna use other excuses like, well now if he comes back, people will know that we're paying him my guy we're talking about an NIL deal where you were paying him no but it's absolutely it's not it's not it's not that people know we were playing paying them it's there's a

legality as I understand there is illegal about it the collective pays him money to play that's what was happening before it's not it's the fact that everyone's allowed UNLV to have that BS statement out there is insane to me It's insane to me like they're breaking some NCAA law by paying the kid We're in this mess because the kid was getting paid it is asinine So it makes zero sense if you were you are involved in the UM collective, right? But if you were involved in the UNLV collective and the first whispers of, hey, Sluka's not happy, he says he wants 100 grand, you would do what?

Well, thankfully Miami's collective hasn't run into an issue where like, hey, this person told us this. That's why I didn't say Miami. I said you're a part of UNLV now. You're Mike Ryan from Vegas, not from Florida. These are very difficult things to clean up after the fact. Right. But I'm just saying, like you're saying, they messed up.

They dropped the ball. I'm saying, let's role play. I'm the guy from the staff. I just came up and said, guys, well, let me get into character. Guys, I got bad news. Sluka says, if we don't come up with 100 grand, he's walking. Well, let me get into character. Guys, I got bad news. Sluka says, if we don't come up with 100 grand, he's walking.

There's a dangerous precedent that you set because it's kind of like what happened with FSU and you see how their following season went. It signals bad leadership. This is not a cop out. I'm gonna do this scenario. But what you do is you're proactive with it. You make sure all your.

Let's be in the moment. But there's a wayward coach that's not on message, allegedly, that should just, that can't happen. Tony, you'll be the assistant coach. So we already know the head of circus coming to the table. So it's not like this money doesn't. Well, the head of circus coming now. I'm just saying, again, this is,

we're going back before, this is not public. Nobody knows, I'm just saying again, this is we're going back before this is not public Nobody knows I'm the guy on the staff I just so I'm saddled with this mess and I and I can't fix it on the front end by making sure that our culture And everything is tight and our operations are good and every kid is Tony did it I mean Tony what did you tell the kid you gave him 100 grand? I told him that we had the funds available Eventually to get him that money. This, this never goes public. I didn't run up to you guys though. What you tell your, what you tell your collective, you tell your team,

you tell your coaching staff, say I found out about this on Sunday, this never goes public because there's no going back from that IG tile of SLUCA saying, I'm gonna get a red shirt now. There's no going back to that because he's- Well that hasn't happened yet, Coach Mike. No, no, no, I know. But that's- We're still- I know.

So what I'm telling you is that this doesn't get public. Okay, so what do we do? We go to our biggest wigs inside of our collective. We tell them the situation. We say, this is a situation that can never happen again. There's a disagreement as to what the deal points were. And you find out who's willing to step up to the table. If no one is, then you do the risk analysis on,

all right, are we just gonna let them walk and be a national punchline? Do we go into our own pockets and make an exception here and make sure that this doesn't spread throughout the team so we don't have a situation where other players start leveraging this stuff? You mobilize quickly in a panic you go after your Top dogs inside of your collective and you say this is an issue that yes

It's costing you more money now, but this can really spiral out of control and cost us more in the long run coach I got a list of our biggest wigs. Okay, got Chris angel, right? I got carrot top my freak We might need a little bit more Janine, can you get me get me Derek Stevens coach? That's that's the biggest wig I Look, I think you want to go all the way to the top Yeah, we have a 23% chance to make the CFP. Do you want this or not? We're having the best season of our of our lives a running right off leave a flave and honestly

This makes us feel like the 90s with our basketball program. Admit it, this is kind of fun. It is, it is. But I'm not going to talk to him. You talk to him. Well, I think I could talk to him. But guys, I'm really worried that Succa's

going to run his big mouth back in the locker room and say, hey, guess who's 100 grand richer, boys? What happens if we get deeper into the season and then he stops again and he says. That's why we make a second contract with the non-disclosure agreement language that if word gets out on here, we know that we're not the ones.

If word spreads, he is in violation and we can rule that contract null and void. What about Wayne Newton? Reach out to Terry Fader. Who is that? And his puppet, Walter. There you go. What about Montecore, the tiger?'ve got some other big wigs for you

What about William Henry Harrison and Millard Fillmore John Tyler you mentioned Wayne Newton big wigs? That's the joke that I thought you were going for. Oh It's like an actual big way Zachary Taylor manticore Winston It's just it's just a mess how about this how about this guys here's a plan we let our starting quarterback our undefeated starting quarterback embarrass us publicly then we establish a precedent where other players can openly complain about many things and threaten to take

their red shirts and also we have the school put out an asinine statement that suggests that schools can't have their players paid money to play for them. Let's do that instead and totally ruin this stream season. Already, break. It is really bad PR. It's terrible. It's terrible PR.

It's terrible, it's a messy situation. And it's going to be used as the NCAA lobbies for safe harbor status. This is going to be used as the NCAA lobbies for safe harbor status. This is going to be used by a lot of people. See hey this stinks. Your team's not going to make the college football playoff now. Why? NIL disagreement.

When this goes, it's not like the NCAA is a cure-all here, but they're going to use this. Nick Saban on game day is going to use this. People are going to use this to advance their cause. The cause that I truly think can actually save, if I may try to rescue NIL and solve it, is you need to have an online database because I think this is a transparency issue.

You have the ambiguity of things not being in writing. What, you don't like that? I don't like Greg. Greg Hutchison? Greg Hutchison? Greg in the corner is very distracting. Greg, do his thing. Greg is fine. Mike is not fine. He's not fine. This PR is not fine. And you know who else has terrible PR? I'm trying to figure out whomst amongst on the one hand we have disgraced mayor Eric Adams of New York who made a

statement yesterday in very, very interesting circumstances. On the other hand, we have Diddy, and specifically Diddy's lawyer. Not my guys. Diddy's lawyer, I would think that if I were both as rich and powerful as Sean Combs is, and also getting hit with all these charges that are pretty, pretty dastardly.

Substantial. Substantial, this is serious shit. Like the feds are on you. You're about to do fed time. Yeah, he's sharing a cell with SBF. Sam Bankman Fried, right? This is the fight for my life if I'm Diddy. What I don't want is my lawyer doing a media tour

saying, who said there's a thousand baby oil bottles? Well, the feds did. Ah, they just meant a lot. I was like, what? And then Harvey Levin asks him, why would he have that many baby oil bottles and his answer was What he lives next to a Costco he buys them in bulk. So yesterday Tony and Fuentes and I were workshop We were like, yo, you know

if you really want to Diddy's world up if you're Costco you come out with a set with a statement saying we don't sell baby oil Yeah, you're not dragging us into this. And the reason was because all three of us are Costco guys. So we're looking around and saying, we're Costco guys. Thank you. So wait a second. I've never seen baby oil at Costco.

I go to Costco like twice a week. I've never seen it there. You know they came out and they said that. Yeah, they came out. Yes. The point is we had said it first. We workshopped that for Costco, and they didn't even know it. Wow. Two of these three guys are OK in my book. I workshopped that for Costco, and they didn't even know it. Wow.

Two of these three guys are OK in my book. I'll leave that to the audience to guess. Jesus. You know what? I want to see them with Greg in the middle. Can we put Greg's head right where they're doing their little heart sign? This seems like a, that might actually be a jail cell.

Eric Adams may actually join this jail cell that SBF. What's going on in New York? It's like Arkham Asylum is up there. It's all celebrities in there. Celebrity supervillains. It's like, hey, there's a Joker. The diddler. Diddy trying to slip through the bars using his baby oil.

I saw that. What is happening in this one prison? If you're Sam Bankman freed, right, you're sitting in this prison cell and you're thinking to yourself, man, a couple years ago I was on top of the world, I was on my way to being a billionaire, everyone loved me and all this stuff,

now I'm sitting in a prison cell in New York, I've lost it all, I lost all the money, I've lost my freedom, I'm about to go jail forever. Well I guess things couldn't get any worse. Yeah, it could be you. No, this is him like two months ago. Like a week ago. Freedman, you've got a new cellmate.

Oh my God, who is it? Maybe it's someone. They open up. Because he's in protective custody. He's not like in the gen pop, right? This is going to be an off-Broadway play, I guarantee you. The situation that is happening in this jail cell right now is going to be an off-Broadway play, I guarantee you. The situation that is happening in this jail cell right now is going to be an off-Broadway play.

What if they both beat the charges? And Eric Adams. And Eric Adams. Oh, and Eric Adams, what if Eric Adams beats the charges? Everybody knows the South District of New York is the Gestapo of America. That is a quote, ladies and gentlemen. That's not Mike being flippant. That is something Eric Adams said. Well, no, he always says everybody knows

such as blank is the of America. New York is the Istanbul of America. Ha ha ha. I'm still trippin' over. The video of him going through where you can hide drugs. Secreting money. You did that today? I did that, I secreted money today.

I sat down and money came out of me. But you got 10 big ones. I did get 10 big ones, man. Thank you to the Swap Helmet. Thank you to the Army Black Knights, who, hey, Army Navy might actually have some CFP stakes attached to it. I'll take everybody's elves for 10 bucks a pop.

I'll be honest with you. It's a good deal. Get paid 10 bucks to wear a costume. Yeah, you can pay me. Pay me to do this shit. Allegedly. And also, what are you gonna do, like maybe three more Bucketed Deaths?

Who, me? Yeah, this season. Why? Because it's allegedly randomly drawn. There it is, guys. Yeah! A little further up, like right behind, where it's kind of like he's peeking over them.

Jimmy Regg. I wanted them becreating his head together with their hands. Yeah! A little further up though, like right behind where they are. Kind of like he's peeking over them. Oh, I'm not. I wanted them becreeding his head together with their hands. Lady killer Greg. I can tell you this, you won't find that image on any other show in America, and that's why you come here to the Dan LeBetoyne Show. What does Greg do? Exactly.

What does Greg do? He just reviews food or something? No, he doesn't review food. I never heard Greg speak. He doesn't say anything? No, they're just, watch the video, because there's loud Kenny G-like jazz backing him up, and it's just a dude going out on dates

with his fair lady out on the town. He just stares awkwardly into the camera. I think they take turns holding the phone. Yeah, can we throw, that's a great on-ramp to show in the video one more time, if we could please. Sure. And while we do that, with the remainder of our time, baseball!

Hey, Jeremy, you got some baseball for us? Oh yeah, there's baseball. There's a lot of stuff going on. Where do we start? How about this? Shohei Otani stat from yesterday. He's now at 400 total bases for the season. The way this segment's going,

it looks like you're explaining this to Greg Hutchison. All right, hey Greg. So Greg, Shohei Otani's one of the greatest baseball players who's ever lived, and he has a really special season going on right now where he broke a record. He has over 50 homers and over 50 stolen bases. He also has 400 total bases.

And he's become the first player since 2001 when Sammy Sosa, Luis Gonzalez, Barry Bonds, and Todd Helton all did that, which is really, really amazing. You know, another insane stat for him, it's the fourth time since 2010 when someone's reached 190 hits while slugging over 600. He was one of the guys to do that,

but we haven't really talked enough about how Aaron Judge might reach 60 homers for the second time in his career. He'd be the first guy not named Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, or I believe, Babe Ruth, to accomplish that feat. Dominican. I didn't hear a single word you said.

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Don't let him fool you. He said in the break that he's jittery. This is the Don Lebathor show with the StuGards. ["The Stugarts Theme"] How long has he been in jail? Do you think that it's possible that he doesn't know everything with Diddy? He's got to know. No, he's no. No, but you know what I mean?

Like if you cut off from information for how long. Oh my God, Diddy. Whoa, Diddy. What did Diddy do? Weird. How'd you get here? It must have been like also tax fraud, right? Like I feel like he's been running in circles

He knows exactly what he's doing. They got me on baby oil charges. Nice. It tells them. Got my Costco, right? Yeah me too the yesterday we're having this conversation by the way about Theme songs we were going through all the great theme songs in TV history We talked about the Jeffersons. We talked about all the great theme songs in TV history. We talked about the Jeffersons, we talked about Hawaii Five-O, and that gave you a thought yesterday, Tony. I was looking through all of the great ones

because obviously there's so many that had words, right? Like we had the theme song now that is just kind of music. Back in the day it was words and music, and it feels like I didn't know because, you know, whatever, it was 75 years ago, but the songs actually were made for the TV show. Original songs were originally made for the show. You had some outliers, bosom buddies had Billy Joel, my life, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, just my life. Family, family ties had, uh, man, Peebo Bryson, I want to say,

what would we do, baby, without love, which is a banger of a song. But for the most part, most of those songs were written explicitly for the shows that they were going to do. So I look back, Magnum P.I., just an incredible, I watched it four or five times on YouTube, just back to back, just Tom Selleck doing different things.

Music aside, it is an amazing intro. So good. It hooks you in you want to watch this show So I made me think wait a second when did the TV theme song that was so Had so much spirit so much love in it people actually took time to like make a song that would encapsulate this video this Sitcom when did that die when did we just air mail and be like, eh, you know what, just put whatever and just keep it going? Not only do I know when it died, I know who killed it. Wow. I thought of it.

You have some suspects. I have a suspect. What's the suspect? Jerry Seinfeld. Exactamundo. Wow. Ring that bell. Me and you didn't even talk about this.

Didn't talk about it on purpose. We were like, save it for the show. Save it for the show. It's Seinfeld. Seinfeld, because it first was that dum-pa-dum-dum-dum, and then at some point they were like, f*** that, we're just going pop-pop-pop, and we're in. By now.

And they used to do, I think season one, they used to do starring Jerry Seinfeld and Jason Alexander, and then they just would just put on, they've already started the episode, credits are on the bottom if you want to read them. And that was revolutionary, is on the episode credits on the bottom you want to read them and that was revolutionary because on the one hand like TV shows want to establish hey the show is starting and we want to make sure everyone knows on the other hand the actors and the writers and the people

you know response what they wanted that credit they wanted everyone to stop and look who made this and so you get this amazing television show where they say, look, we can squeeze 30 to 40 seconds of extra content here if we just start the show, as opposed to waiting for an intro. And boom, that killed theme songs everywhere. The de facto intro ended up being Jerry doing standup. At first, and then after a while, they got rid of that too.

They got rid of Jerry doing the same. And they would put that at the end. They would put the stand up at the end of the show rather than at the start. That way it was something that kind of related to what the topic was on the back end rather than setting the stage off the top. If you're wondering if there's whole music happening on the audio, Mike Ryan has been sitting here pretty much all day long since we mentioned this guy, Greg Hutchinson,

on the Greg Hutchinson account, just playing videos off of it. And all the videos come with this elevator music, phone hold music, royalty-free Kenny G, jazz-esque. And this with the visuals of this absolutely batshit crazy looking couple. Greg and his lady friend, who both terrify me. There's Greg on our screen right now if you're watching on YouTube.

Yes. He's hearing you talk about him. He doesn't like it. He's listening. He's listening and he looks like he's like, how am I going to eat your insides? He does look diabolical. Yeah, man.

Speaking of insides. It's just the whole thing. Like it's just music playing and just him and. That's precisely right. All right. That's the whole thing. And how many of these are there? Greg?

Yeah. Greg videos? Dozens. Who publishes them? Greg. Greg himself. Greg, yeah. But who's filming them? Well, sometimes he films it and then sometimes his lady friend films it unless There's a third shooter. There's a throuple situation going on. No, that's our three dads. That's a different account

I can say well it could be like and we know that for sure. This is Greg We're not seeing things through the eyes of Greg because Greg could be someone who's not on camera and Greg is just watching these other people. So there's a video where Greg's lady friend is getting ready and she holds up a mirror like as she's brushing her hair and you see Greg in the reflection filming. Aw, I like that. Yeah, no, this is a genuine,

they got over by just being genuinely themselves. They're so in love. Do you think they wanna hear a little bit more about baseball before the Cuervo Club? He seems like really eager to listen to you. Let's throw Greg back up on the screen, Jeremy. Let me talk to you a little bit about a game that happened last night that was pretty special

because the Marlins played the Twins and the Twins are collapsing, Greg, and it's been pretty crazy to see the way that they've been collapsing because they are 10 and 20 in their last 30. And now the magic number for my Detroit Tigers in the Kansas City Royals is down to one because they're lost to the Marlins last night. The Marlins won an extra innings.

The Marlins had led four nothing in that game, Greg, blew the lead. The Twins tied it and it went to extras in extras. Derek Hill, their center fielder. Oh, you're not a big Derek. All right, but hold on. Then we get back to the 12th inning. Time to open up the quervo club. Watch it on YouTube. Howdy folks. It's Mike Ryan. I want to talk to you about the great taste of Miller Lite. Got to cut right to it today because it's football season as you know, and there's nothing more American

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