The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Taste the Taste of Wetness

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

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I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan Labatard show is presented by Draft Kings. Traff Kings, the crown is yours.

Flying by the seat of your pants originated in the early days of aviation when pilots had to use their senses and physical feel to navigate and control their aircraft because there were no sophisticated instruments. So not Peter Pan? Well, but the seat of the pants, you understand why I'm doing Peter Pan, right?

You have to put somebody on wires in order to get them to fly, and then they're flying by the seat of their pants. What he's just described right there doesn't have the seat of the pants being used for anything. I'm driving the plane. I'm flying it. I'm flying it. I'm sitting in this seat and I'm just feeling it out. Where do I got to go here?

Am I making a little tilted, a little left here? I need some help with something that happened to me on the plane this weekend. So I was flying back home late Saturday nights. I already told you that part. Government shutdown. Come on, figure it out. So I'm on my way home Saturday night. We're about to take off.

I'm sitting in first class. You know my style, damn. And there's a woman sitting next to me. I don't know. She looks like she's maybe like 50, something like that. I don't know if I didn't ask. And she seemed a little bit strange to me. It was one of those deals who were, like, the pilot and the, they don't call them stewardesses anymore.

Flight attendants. They come on the plane. You are stuck in a different time, dude. You really are. They come on the plane and, like, she cheered. She, like, she cheered. Come on. All right.

Whatever. So. Did you feel obligated since you're next to her? No. She cheered. No, but it wasn't, Clive was cheering. Woo! All right.

anyway we're getting ready to take all I got my AirPods in she too was waiting six or seven hours and was excited about the fact that now she could take off and the government hadn't shut down her flight I would just be normal so I got my AirPods in I'm listening to I'm watching something on my iPad right and I got my phone next me because you know in first class Dan there's like there's like a table that thick arm wrist yeah it's so good so my phone is there and the woman she she motions toward me I got again I got my AirPods and I'm I can't hear and she starts pointing at my phone and I'm like I'm looking confused she then picks up her phone and she opens up the settings and she points at airplane mode wow like so I just like I shrug my shoulders at her because I don't believe in airplane mode I'm with you I can't I I never put my phone on airplane I don't put my phone on airplane to prove a point that's right True the point. Hey, not important. And so far, I'm right every time.

But what if it is just one time and you're the reason everyone dies and how many times he did it without airplane mode? That probably wouldn't be the reason. Yeah, that would seem to be a really weird coincidence. What do you know about how satellite services work with airplanes? I'm finding out. Literally every flight, I find out. So I just kind of like shrug my shoulders. You know?

She tattle? But I'm thinking, I'm like, who does that? Somebody who's worried about their plane crashing? Well, I didn't put it on. If you see something, say something is a good way to live. I would have just lived with a ball of anxiety, the entire flight. I never would have said anything to you. But I would have been so frustrated if I saw that you weren't on airplane mode.

What? What kind of team player are you? Selfish. Airplane mode. She's telling me to put my phone in airplane mode. About 20 minutes later, I spilled my drink on her. On purpose? Not on purpose.

But I spilled my drink all over her. I didn't feel bad, but it was not on purpose. would be wild if before every flight, they're like, all right, we got, I can see here we have six people who are not on airplane mode. We don't move until I get this down. I spilled my drink on her ice cubes and all. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Do you believe in airplane mode on your cell phone when flying? There's no evidence. I've also been told that you lit up ESPN this weekend that it was a vibrant, radiant thing with your take on your love of Sicilian pizza. Oh, yeah.

That you say that this is the greatest of all the pizzas. Oh, yeah. A pizza that I would imagine you eat with a fork and knife? Had to. Yeah, it was a little too messy. I'm about to go on the air. There's cameras and all that stuff. I can't be looking like a vampire wings.

Like I had to eat like with a fork. And I couldn't be out of looking like Daniel Jones, all right? So I had to have the fork and the knife. Sicilian pizza. Oh my. Dan, you know, Dan, you know about that Sicilian pizza? Yeah, I love Sicilian pizza. That's right. That's my pizza of choice. Amber Wilson had never even heard of Sicilian pizza and she's all critical of me. I told her, listen, when I walk into one of these pizza joints and, you know, they got the window there and it shows you all the pizzas that they have. If I see a Sicilian pie, I don't even look at the other pizzas either. I'm getting Sicilian.

Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Is Sicilian pizza the best of all the pizzas? Love it. You have to like something that's basically thinking. is a sandwich. You have to. I know most people I know prefer a thin slice. They do not, in fact, most people I know would say that the deep dish stuff in Chicago is not something that is their preference because they just want to be able to grab a thin slice of pizza that doesn't have that much bread, that much dough. Well, also the Chicago deep dish, it's like pizza soup. Like there's so much tomato sauce. It's too much. It's a tomato pie. Yeah, that's right. It's like a tomato sauce pie. Do you think that the audience is going to think that the Sicilian

pizza is the best of the pizza? Because I believe that most people think that when they go to get a New York style pizza, Sicilian is not their preference. Sicilian is always my preference. I love it. Let's go ahead and do funniest thing of the sports weekend here, please. Hey people, tell us what in the sport made you laugh hardest this weekend. In this segment we call what make you laugh this weekend. Ha ha ha ha. I'm going to start. You just mentioned it, Zaz.

Daniel Jones, bloody mouth. I mean, he kind of looked like the Joker. He looks like on Gladys from weapons. Kind of look like Robin Williams and Mrs. Dalfire after he returns from the bathroom with the red lipstick. They should have lost that game. They had two other fumbles that weren't recovered by Atlanta.

I'm in a Survivor League with five teams left. I had the Colts. Oh, yeah, let's go, baby. We're alive. We're still alive. They deserve to lose that game. Jonathan Taylor is pretty important to them, and I believe the only team in the league

that I end their playoff chances by taking the running back away instead of the quarterback. I understand that Daniel Jones has been very good for them this season, but I just saw, and in a game where they scored 31 points, by the way, or 30 points or whatever it was. They scored plenty in that game, but it's because Jonathan Taylor went crazy, three touchdowns, 200-something yards,

when the Falcons were hell-bent on stopping Jonathan Taylor. Like, those wide receivers for the Colts gave them nothing in that game. It was just Daniel Jones looking wherever he could for his tight end. All he wanted was Tyler Warren. That's the only thing he was looking for.

What do you got, Roy? Trump doing play-by-play during the Commanders game. All right, let's hear some of this here and let's compare it to Stugats' play-by-play if you can get it. Which do you want to do first here, Chris? Do you want to do, you want to do Trump first let's do what this is by the way during a lions commanders not only that uh trump says he wants that stadium named after him and it's probably going to be named after him i think it's going to be named

after him can you do me in favor and look something up i have not seen uh credible reporting on this but because i have heard from so many people i want to see who's reporting it credibly that the president of the united states is wearing a diaper and smells bad just get for me that information if you could, and let's hear this brilliant play-by-play. I'm sure it's very smart. Let's see. We have a very important, I think, is a very important couple of plays. Here we go. Second and seven. Right, second and seven. Let's see what happens. Whoa. That's all right. Crosky Merritt. Not bad. Takes it down to the five-yard line. That's right. That's right. Good runner. There we go. I love the, whoa. Right when he's supposed to be explaining what's happening, here we go.

Whoa. Anytime you're doing play-by-play and you say, let's see what happens. That's good stuff. Let's just play that again so people can just hear just how generally empty it is. Let's see. We have a very important, I think it's a very important couple of plays. Here we go. Second and seven.

Right, second and seven. Let's see what happens. Whoa. All right. Crosky Merritt. Not bad. Takes it down to the five-yard line. That's right.

That's right. Good runner. All right. So he offered no information and just repeated. My eyes were closed. watching that, I have no idea what happened. Whoa. Well, it happens when you listen to the Dolphins broadcasts.

Anyway, I think that he's carving out like a new role, Trump. You heard him there. Like, he's confirming what Kenny Albert is saying. That's like a new role where you have a guy in the booth who lets you know that the things that the play-by-play guy is saying is correct. That's right? He said at the end of the interview that he wants that job. Also, Dan,

no proof that Donald Trump wears a diaper and smells bad. No proof whatsoever. I don't see any articles that say so. We can assume soda. I think we can assume that. I know where you got that one from? Let's go ahead and play Stugantz's play-by-play comparatively. So this is a pretty big at Pat, Stu.

Is that include the shot he took in the face when he was standing in the on base? Stu, you got to stop talking when there's a hit. Logan Morrison with a big base hit up the right side. And Martinez slides into first, first and third, no out here in the bottom of the third inning. Why do you sign a first? There's two guys sliding in the first, apparently. Carpenter deals. Some chin music to keep.

Gabby Sanchez. Chin music normally isn't swung at. David, I got news for you. I was getting chin music in no matter what today. This is radio, Stu. I was getting my chin music in. Stu, a lot better. Mike, what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend?

Fran Brown. His act doesn't necessarily work when he's getting blown on and has one of the worst teams in college football. But fans have a memory from, you know, very quotable head coach. At one point, I was told that he told, like, the interviewer that, man, Miami was ready to quit at a certain point. He and Mario Cristobald don't get along. They're battling it out right now presently for a five-star recruit.

But after the game, fans gave Fram Brown some of his own medicine, said, you're not going to get washed tonight, dirty ass. Frame Brown also shook Michael Irvin's hand and said, don't get used to this shit. The Syracuse football coach famously does not shower after losses. There have been a lot of them this year. He doesn't deserve so. Fran Brown, he's entertaining.

Him and Mario were on the field, yelling at each other during the game. Also, Miami, in terms of penalties this year, 134th of 136 teams. They improved, five spots. Moved up five spots. Discipline. Nine penalties a game for the University of Miami. Again, only, so you're telling me they're no longer two games. I think we just had five on Saturday, so marked improvement.

Okay, so there were only two. teams worse than them at getting penalties? Are you saying that they've climbed from 134th to better than that? Cleaning it up. Jeremy, what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend? Justin Fields completed six passes. The Jets had 169 yards of total offense, and they beat the Browns. So the stats in that game were crazy.

First of all, they had two consecutive kicks returned for touchdowns. The Jets did. But the stats at the half on Justin Fields were so. great because it was at the half three for six passing for five yards with one interception and they were leading they was tied it was tied at the half 1717 after justin fields gave them gave them a big three for six for five yards with one interception uh zaz what was the funniest thing from the sports weekend yeah so i i saw it happen in the heat game but overall it's a funny that is happening in the NBA right now.

So there was one at the end of one of the quarters on Saturday night with the heat game. Nikoyovic, he chucked it full court. There was no time left. You know, why not? But that's the funny thing to me is this new rule in the NBA, all of the players now, they all chuck it at the end of the quarter because it doesn't count against your stats anymore. It's so, none of these guys, they all take the extra dribble in years past. Oh, they get it off in time.

Now everyone wants to shoot at the end of the quarter. I love it. When did they change that rule? This year. I didn't know. So it doesn't count against your shooting percentage. If it's at the end of the quarter. What's the cutoff on that?

If it's the end of the quarter and the play originates in the back court and you shoot it behind. Half court. I think it's actually behind like the logo. You can go a little bit into the front court. Then it only counts if it goes in. What's chat about Miller Light? That's right. Football season.

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Stugats. These are smiles till the broads are clutch again. Clutch again. Clutch again. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. I thought one of you was going to select the way the Dolphin game started yesterday. Because I've never seen it happen. False Start Time Out.

There's no time taken off the clock. You've used a timeout, you got a penalty, and the game hasn't started yet. It's still at the 15-minute mark. It's not something I've seen before. But I'm going to go with, did you guys see this? You guys know the Key and Peel sketch of one pump, two-pump, the celebration in the end zone, where the referee is getting real close to the groin of the celebrating player, waiting for the second sexual pump, and it comes, well, phrasing, the second pump ends up in a penalty.

Not one, this has got to be six or seven years old, or longer. How old is this skit? It's old. Two guys did it yesterday. Out of nowhere, Rico Dowdell and Aaron Jones both did it out of nowhere yesterday, and they both lost the game. No, it wasn't out of nowhere. It was a big talking point the previous week. Scott was on vacation.

He got away with two pumps, but Rico Doudal did. got penalized for two pumps. That was last week. Two pump shop. Then there were some fake pumps this week because it made news last week. Okay, but it's still, all of it is a bit out of nowhere. That sketch is how old?

You're being a man right now. How old is that sketch? The episode premiered November 2nd, 2012. I saw Gene Sterator talking about it where his kids caught him up because he saw all the pumping stuff. He's like, I don't know about this. And his kids put him on the key and peel, big key and peel fan now. All right. You know what? I retracted since I was mal-informed, and I'm going to take another one. I'm going to take a different choice here. My choice is just the Jags.

Yeah, that's great. So let me examine that game for a second, because keep in mind how weird what I'm about to say is. During the witching hour of the one o'clock games, all of them except one, were one-score games during the witching hour. As soon as the witching hour started all of the games except Jacksonville, Houston, was a one-score game. Jacksonville, at Houston, against Davis Mills, Jacksonville, this group of losers against Davis Mills were up 29-10.

They allowed 26 fourth-quarter points to the Texans who are a bad offense when it's not. Davis Mills. I want you to look up for me. I'm going to guess that there's been one game this season where the Texans have scored more than 26 points in an entire game. There's one game that I remember

against Baltimore. I'm going to guess that they haven't scored more. They might have a couple of games where they've scored close to 26, but I'm going to guess that if you look at the Texans game logged... They've scored 26 twice, and they've scored above that once. They scored

the 44 points against Baltimore, like you mentioned. And then in their other two wins outside of this one, they scored 26 exactly. So in the fourth quarter, they scored 26 points. And in all the previous games, when given all four of the quarters, they've not scored more than 26 points. It's not just that, though. It's that Jacksonville in the fourth quarter had two yards. They're trying to win the game. They're trying to advance to six and three, the same record that the bills would have as their window closes.

They could have been six and three. They're playing the back, they're playing Davis Mills. they've got the game 1 at 2910 and I want to do you guys know, does anyone here Roy's going to know what this is are you old enough to know Zazlo what the Nasty plunge is?

Do you know what the NSTT plunge is? Does anyone here, this is an you know what NSTI is right? Is it still in business? Chocolate? Chocolate? I don't think it's chocolate. No, no, no. I think it's just T. That's Nesquick. That is Nesquick. And Nesley like ice cream, right?

That's totally different. What the hell are you talking about? Nestee. Okay. Yes. So, T. Let's get, let's give video a second to find. But Nesley Quick is so good.

Yeah, but that's not what we're talking about. But I'm with Zadz. That's just, if we're just comparing the products, I'm with Zaz. It's, it's Nesquick. Oh, whatever. It's good. Let's talk about that some more. Yeah.

Zazel got everything wrong there and didn't know what the Nesty plunges either, even though he's of an age that he should know. And I'm sure the woman who was sitting next to him got, who got ice cubes spilled on her, was also thinking how old you were when she was. looking at you. Do you promise we can go back and talk about Nestle quick, though, when you get done with this? I mean, anything Nestle related is going to be chocolate related, so it's going to be delicious. This is not at all chocolate related. When you're making strawberry or chocolate milk, do you prefer the syrup or the powder? Oh, the powder. No, the powder feels like more authentic. What? I love the powder. It's the weirdest thing you've ever said. If you use a syrup,

you get that one little clump of syrup at the bottom. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. There you go. I like one of life, simple joys. I'd like to go around the, like, wipe off all the chocolate from the side, make sure there's no chocolate. I'm like, I never know if I've mixed up the syrup enough, and I feel like it's all at the bottom, and I never know. Kind of gooky. Yeah. The Nasty plunge, okay, is basically, and I don't know why, I'm going to assume that Nest tea was saying their tea is so delicious that you just want to fall back and swim in their delicious tea. But it involves turning your back around and sort of falling into a pool.

Let's play an old commercial here so that people can see what it is that I'm talking about here. I'm huffing and I'm puffing. Getting dry as I can be. Got a thirst that's got me aching. Come on. Taste the taste of wetness. Take the nesty plunge. So you're thirst with nesty instant tea.

Nesty. It's the best wet yet. So taste the taste of wetness. Take the nesty plunge. Try nesting. and see why people choose Ness tea more often. It's America's biggest seller. Wetness.

Taste the taste. The taste of wetness. I'm in. Why would those women do that, though? The reason that I'm bringing all of this up is because the way that Jacksonville got up to that 19-point lead is that their slot receiver and punt returner, Parker, Washington, ends up breaking a punt return.

And when he gets to the one-yard line, he turns around and falls into the... the end zone on his back the way that you would nestee plunge. And about 40 yards from the end zone, the punters got an angle. And Parker Washington sees that he's got an angle, but is not scared in any. I saw that. He's not scared in any way. There's like a brief moment of, oh, do I need to?

No, I don't need to speed up at all. That punter's like, oh, I'm on this. I'm on this, guys. It was so good. It is. And then they lost. and then they had two fourth quarter yards and then they allowed this, listen, this is, this is, I do enjoy laughing at the Jags, but here's what happened to the Jags at the end of the game, because it was great to watch because Jacksonville knows how to lose these kinds of games, okay? As I said, Jacksonville had two fourth quarter yards.

They're now down by a point with 31 seconds left. They get a good, they get a decent return, but they don't need. much of her turn because they're kicker little. All you got to do is get to like your own 40-yard line to have a chance for this guy to try a 70-yard field goal. They come out with two fourth-quarter yards and Trevor Lawrence ends up running for like 19 yards. They're now in field goal range.

They were close. No, they're in field goal range. They're not close. Their kicker has made the longest kick ever. They're in field goal range. They can try it from here. And then, of course, he gets sacked. And then on the next play, he just lobs the ball up, and it's a pick six.

And Houston ends up with 26 fourth quarter points. When that is a dreadful offense, there's no circumstance under which you can allow Davis Mills and a truly terrible Texans offense to just break your season over their knee that way. Liam Cohen's reaction was so good. He throws his pad with the plays and throws off his headset and the equipment. Looks like a guy who wants a new quarterback next year. What happened in that fourth quarter, I dare say, the only thing more surprising than that was the end of the Broncos Giants game this entire season. And I'd have to say that this is, I'd have to put this in that conversation.

Don't forget Titans Cardinals. That one was an all-time. Oh, yeah. Titans Cardinals was a pretty good one. I did forget about that one. Do you think Brian Daibble gets fired during the show? I think so. You think he'd get fired to him?

I mean, there was a report that Mira had to get talked. out of firing them in Denver. They are 0 and 4 in games that they've led by more than 10 points on the road. Also, another great stat, Jackson Dart, has been evaluated for four concussions this season. Jackson Dart scores a lot of touchdowns, and the moment that he left that game yesterday, you could see everything leak out of the giant. Russell Wilson, I told you guys when he signed there, that I found that signing to be sad for Russell Wilson.

I think Stugats and Zaz have both said that Russell Wilson is playing his. way out of the Hall of Fame. I think he is, yeah. I mean, you see that final drive with Russell Wilson? He didn't know what he was doing out there. How good is this job, though, when it opens up? You want that job now all of a sudden? Well, they still have skill position problems. Neighbors? Because they're hurt. They mean, their skill guys are hurt. We'll see if Skataboo comes back, but they have neighbors. They have an answer, a quarterback. They probably have the best pass rush in the division. Not probably. And they're going to have a super high pick in the drive. One of the best dealings in the league.

Yeah, that's a good job. That's a good job. It says, good job or not a good job. You guys are, you guys are assuming. That's a good job. Hey. You guys are assuming that Scataboo and neighbors are going to both be back and totally fine. I mean,

same as they were when the margins in that sport are this. And if they don't play football ever again, it's a good job because they have a quarterback. They have a young quarterback. I'm not sure Scataboo is not coming back this year. Yeah, try and stop them. This week. Don Libotard. While there's nothing official and conversations are still ongoing.

Was that a. fake Schefter because it was pretty good. It was excellent. I feel like there's legs. I tried at the beginning and then I lost confidence in it. Why? It was good. Yeah, you got this. There's nothing official. Yeah, it's so good.

Conversations are still ongoing. Stugats. It is trending towards Nick Siriani, remaining the head coach of the Eagles. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Something that happened in that game and I still am not used to this. You guys are now used to this, right? what I'm about to say from that game that was a stat. In the first half,

the first half, the Giants and the Bears went for it on fourth down five times. Five years ago, five years ago, a team wouldn't go for it on fourth down except at the end of game, an entire season five times. In a snow game. Five times in the first half,

Zaz, and the Bears, the Bears is now a good job too, right? Bears are good. Bears are good. Caleb Williams is good. You could say it's a good job, but they have a coach. Yeah, they just got a coach. No, but I'm just saying that when you say young quarterbacks, that makes everything a good

job. You can in fact say, how about this? I'm going to throw this at you. You guys are going to be stunned by it. Yeah, not only do the bears have a quarterback, the bears have the best quarterback in their history, like in our lifetime. This is the best quarterback. It's just Jake Cuntler. It's all you have to choose from is Jake Cuddler. Yeah, I think he's going to be better. I think he's going to have a better career if he doesn't get

hurt than Jay Cutler has. Like, what are we talking about? Sid Luckman? Jim McMahon? Jim McMahon wasn't very good. He wasn't very good statistically. He won a Super Bowl, but he wasn't. Go ahead and look up. Go ahead and find. Fine for me.

Go ahead and look at Jim McMahon's finest season. I think we will all laugh. Let's just look at his stats that Super Bowl season, if you'd like. Is there a present-day comp of like a quarterback that's not that good but cool, like Jim McMahon? current quarterback that we would call that. People like Gardner Minchew. That's how, he's Gardner Minchew?

That's not cool. You can't be wearing too tight. No, Gardner Man is considered, I think, cool. You can't be wearing too tight, short, short, jean shorts. McMahon was that bad, though? I think Gardner Minchew is, like, quite literally twice the quarterback, Jim McMahon. Yeah, I think you'd be surprised. You look at the numbers, like, wow, Gardner is just a lot better than Jim McMahon. Oh, man.

2,392 yards, 15 touchdowns, 11 and assumptions. That was the Super Bowl year? That was 85? That's like two of stats so far. Pro bowler. Two is that 15 and 11. He just gave you 15 to 11. Look, quiet.

And now is 13 games, by the way. Quiet as it is kept. Because I don't believe a lot of people are talking about this today as we assess the entire league and everyone in the league is kind of broken because McDermott's yelling at Bosa. Wrap him up. And Bosa's like a torso out there with a cast on his arm. In his last six games, Matthew Stafford, quietly, because it has. been quiet, Matthew Stafford, 20 touchdowns, zero interceptions. So in his last six games, look at what, look at how much the game has changed, that in his last six games, Matthew Stafford

is 20 touchdowns, zero interceptions, and Jim McMahon in his Super Bowl year was 15 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. That's crazy. Stafford, everyone's got to be afraid of him, right? Everyone, he has mastered the position correctly. Like, I've got this correct when I say, That is just simple mastery of the position. First player in NFL history with four plus passing touchdowns and zero picks in three straight games. He's also the six player all time with four plus touchdown passes in three straight games in a single season. I saw such a great example yesterday after the Rams won that game. Such a great example to remind you how awful those lines teams were that he was on.

With Matthew Stafford's win yesterday, he now is a career five. 500 record. That's wild. You know who the favorite in the NFC is? It's the Rams, according to Drafking's Sportsbook. They have the second best prices on Drafking Sportsbook to win the Super Bowl by and only the Chiefs. I mean, they're very good. Thank you.

No one would dispute that in a league where, look, I know Denver's got two losses. I know Colts got two losses. And all of you would say the Chiefs would be favored any field you want to put them on. I'm going to favor the Chiefs to win them. that game. But you wouldn't do it with the Rams. You wouldn't necessarily do it with the Rams. It's not something that when I think of good teams in that league, I think of very few who get to be good quietly. And they're a different kind of good as the Patriots, because I don't believe the people listening to this believe that the Patriots can just run through the postseason.

No matter how good Drake May's been on the deep passes, no matter how well their coach, no matter how discipline there are. You got to see it. It's just I don't believe that people will believe that the quarterbacks in the AFC can knock off Mahomes. Like, it's just not something that anyone listening to this is going to believe. But if I put Stafford in that game and I put it anywhere, any, I can put that on any field, all of a sudden you've got a mastery at that position that is unlike any other, any other mastery, I would say, I don't believe, even though Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are singular MVP talents, I don't believe they've actually mastered the position the way Stafford has, where Stafford could still.

dominate the game and he's not even one of these mobile guys. You kind of need to be mobile these days in order to get it done most effectively at that position. He's the only one doing it with straight dropback because Drake May is a hell of an athlete. Like that that guy's running all over the place. He's not viewed like Josh Allen. My guess is can you look this up for me? Drake Allen, Drake May's rushing stats versus Josh Allen's rushing stats just this year. Would you be kind enough to just look that up for me because I don't believe people are assigning the mobility to Drake May that he actually has, and he's not getting the credit for running around the way. He had like 90-something rushing yards in a game against Tennessee last year. Let me ask you something about that draft class last year, Drake May, Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams.

If you had to pick right now which quarterbacks you would want from there, Jaden Daniels is first, second, or third. Well, he's just, when he's coming off of injury this way, is it fair to even make an assessment? Like, what we've seen from C.J. Stroud in terms of regression is something you were beginning to feel with Jaden Daniels this year. Jaden Daniels at LSU averaged 10 yards of play. That's what he was averaging at LSU, and he made it look awfully easy his first year. But I'm thinking that most people listening to this would take Drake May. Would they not? Would they not take Drake May just because of what he's doing?

doing with the deep pass and with skill guys that we don't believe to be as good as Washington's skill guys or Chicago's skill guys, because that's a lot of help in those two huddles, I don't believe we regard the Patriot skill guys that way. To your point on rushing, Drake May has 283 rushing yards this year to Josh Allen's 311. The difference is the touchdowns. Josh Allen has seven rushing touchdowns to Drake May's two, but that's in part because he's completing so many passes deep down the field to those weapons. And as we pointed out earlier against the Dolphins, that was the big issue for the Bills. Is their skill guys can't get open down the field? It's a really good job by the Patriots of not necessarily acquiring splashy names outside

of Stefan Diggs, but guys who can burn down the field because they knew what Drake May's strengths were. I should make a correction, by the way, on what it is that I said earlier about the Bills game because that Bills Dolphins game was lost because the Bills could not stop the run and cannot stop the run. put too much of that on Josh Allen, just because I'm expecting Josh Allen to score more. He was fine yesterday. Like, he was, that stat line is totally fine. They moved the ball. They just didn't score.

I'm not used to. The bill's not scoring. I did want to ask you, though, Zaz, because you're covering college football so intensely over the weekend. Is a Cuban going to win the Heisman trophy? Because I have not seen a Heisman moment until the end of Indiana, Penn State. Now, I know that Indiana has been running roughshod over everybody. They've been winning big Fernando Mendoza.

I can't get used to saying that name is a quarterback's name. And seeing it at Indiana is super strange. But if I told anyone listening to this, never mind James Franklin, never mind Signetti. If I simply told anybody listening to this, hey, Indiana and Penn State are playing a football game at any time in your lifetime. Who's got the better athletes? Penn State should not be a 14 and a half point dog in that game. you've been watching Indiana all season. And so playing against Penn State, at Penn State, being a two-touchdown favorite is something that Indiana has not been capable of the entirety of my

lifetime. But the first Heisman moment I've seen this season was at the end of that football game. So going into this weekend's games, Julian Sayan was the favorite to win the Heism, which I thought was kind of strange because, I mean, he's a really good player. But Ohio State, they kill everyone. they don't play anyone and they kill everyone and so Julian Sane doesn't have any real moments. I mean, heck, the one close game which is say maybe is Ohio State's only good win, which we didn't really realize at the time because Texas didn't look so great. Was that first game against Texas? It's not like Julian Sane had a big moment.

They were up 14 nothing in that game. The defense made stops. It's important that you pointed out the end of the game this weekend with Indiana because, yes, that feels like a Heisman moment because not. that Indiana's playoff hopes would have been dashed, they likely still would be totally fine as far as a playoff spot, but certainly their chances to win the Big Ten and definitely their chance to get a buy in the first round of the playoff was absolutely on the line in that game.

And to do it on the road when Indiana hadn't won in Penn State, like ever? It was like a thousand years. And they asked Signetti about it. He's like, this team's never played here. Right, right. So they never win there. and an unbelievable play at the end of the game. Yes, it felt like a Heisman moment.

So he's back now to being the favorite at plus 160, barely over Julian Sane and plus winning 85. I feel like he should be winning the Heisman. I feel like the odds should be a little bit more. A Cuban, a Cuban from Columbus High School. Was he a big deal when he was in, because yes, he's from Columbus. I don't remember his name being thrown around here. He wasn't a big time prospect. Went to Cal, earned the starting job over there, went into the portal this year,

Plenty of big programs had an opportunity to bring Mendoza in and decided to go elsewhere. And he goes to Indiana. His brother is his backup over there. And every week, the kid just gets better and better and better. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Can you believe you've lived long enough to see the Heisman won by someone named Fernando? Because I can't get used to that. Gus Johnson at the end of the game, he knew the game he was calling.

And what Zaz is saying is significant, right? because it's not just that you're protecting an undefeated season. You're protecting an undefeated season when you've gone on the road and that team has all the momentum at the end of that game. That is exactly the spot where a team that hasn't been there before, caves, because all of it is too much. Here's Gus Johnson calling the end of that game. It's a wow.

I have no idea what's happened there. I have no idea based on just the audio. Oh, what are you shaking your head? You're sour on Gus Johnson? What are you doing? What are you doing? You know what I'm doing. You can see what I'm doing.

You don't like Gus Johnson? No. No. I just, like, I mean, that right there is just yelling, number one. That's what we were all doing. Okay, but I'm not on the play-by-play, you know, and I just feel like every, every, a big pass in the first quarter sounds the exact same as that that you heard. That's not true. That is true.

That is kind of true. That's not how, I've never heard a first quarter that sounds like that. It's not for me. It's not for me. Mendoza ate some shots in that game, too. He was just being tough and gritty, and that was a hell of a catch. They go into every game. There's a talent mismatch every time.

There's probably two guys on that team on offense that get drafted. My favorite moment from Gus over the weekend was when he was saying who was officiating the Indiana Penn State game. Wow. Chris Cody is your referee today. Did a good job in that one. Thank you. The apple doesn't fall far from the narcissist tree. What's chat about Miller Light?

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