The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: That's Some Voodoo S***

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

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DraftKings, the crown is yours. A couple of things that I was trying to get to before Kevin Durant broke out all around us. I was beginning to say that a couple of Major League players just combusted on the field this weekend because of how hot it is. And while I'm also making fun of us for being a Laze Fair parade town where Greg, Cody, and Roy are the only ones out there and Zazz is like, I couldn't get parking, Mike's like, it's too far away and it's hot, and Chris is, I've got a child. But it's just a general indifference about the second parade. We partied all week. Yeah, but I'm going to forgive you guys on behalf of people who aren't giving you permission for this when I say

Asking people to go into that heat in South Florida this time of year right now when it's hotter than it's ever been It's an ask. Mm-hmm at 8 a.m. When the parade starts at noon You had to get down there like before 9 to be able to move You know what else is an ask pulling an all-nighter at 11 and hosting the next morning. But I was there for that. I just couldn't do both. I was at Elbow Room till about 6 p.m. that Wednesday that I did the show. Bobby.

Where's the content from that? Because I was hoping to have content from that. On our socials. Okay, but. I didn't get in until after we were off air. Look, don't get me started on that. That's not true. What do you mean?

Roy said you abandoned him in the middle of the show. No, no, it was in hour two when you guys That's not true. What do you mean? Roy said you abandoned him in the middle of the show. No, no, it was in hour two when you guys were interviewing Nick Wright. I got in there then. I wanted to be down there at 8 a.m. and was told to come here first. So let's not get into finger pointing.

Let's not, but who would you point the finger at if you had to point it at someone? Probably Roy, it seems like Roy. Why? Roy's a big carpool guy. He probably went to the carpool with Chris. Controversy. He's a carpool lane guy, no doubt.

Really? Were you driving the carpool lane? Yeah, yeah. Chris, why didn't you take Rose with the camera in with you when you got in? Because I was, I didn't get in, it wasn't like a media event. I knew a bouncer there and he was just like, you, let's go. I couldn't be like, all right, all my friends, come on, I got in. Okay, great, you got in.

You didn't even try. All right, look, I'm going to revisit this for a second. We got there at noon. Chris a second we got there at noon Chris if we got there at 8 o'clock, I would have more leeway. He's right. Okay, who's in charge of when you leave not pointing fingers He's not gonna point fingers Dan, but but it's really sounds like it might be you do He's all like he's blaming you it seems. I mean he's in charge of executive producing. I'm not gonna lie I almost went rogue on Wednesday and just went straight there Even though I was told to come here really because I was just like I know I can get in I know the content will be good, but I came here George Washington went rogue and look what happened. Thank you America happened

Sometimes leader just need to know when to follow orders and when to make the best decision Thank you make some leaders the the thing that I wanted though to explore here just there is a bit of an obsession with the sports information people. The information brokers in sports are now the you know most highly paid and famous of the journalists. But there is different reporting on what was available for Kevin Durant, and I would say if some of the reporting is right, it would be insane for the Miami Heat to be unwilling to give up Jovic for Durant.

I just don't know what to believe in the reporting because the reporting is making it unclear to me because you've got different people saying different things and I haven't made the calls yet to know, but it would sound unclear to me because you've got different people saying different things and I haven't made the calls yet to know, but it would sound insane to me that the Miami Heat wouldn't trade Jovic for Durant, that that would be the stumbling block. I don't believe that.

Did we believe Jovic was in the potential package for Damian Lillard? Like was he a name that was being talked about, we thought? Back then. So like we're saying we believe that the Heat were gonna throw in Jovich for Lillard and not Durant? I mean he's more developed now. Here's how the report went. Initially it was way worse.

And it was Shams' initial report. And as we know, Shams is about as reputable a reporter in that sport, an information guy, and moreover, moreover, the one time the Miami Heat challenged him on this, and Bernie, Bernie Lee, Jimmy Butler's agent, that was the mascot. No, no, no, Jimmy Butler's agent also made a big public show about going at Shoms' credibility, and months later, it was pretty evident

who was right about that stuff, it was Shoms. So this is how it went. Shom's comes out, invokes plenty of names that would make your skin crawl off the Miami Heat, actually decided to not include a name like Haywood Heisman. That was a Shom's report. And then the spin to Barry Jackson, and that's what I will dub it because it seems like damage control spin every time these guys now fail to get a superstar was that no no no Heisman was in the deal. It was Jovich and Ware.

Those were the pieces that we weren't willing to part with. You say Miami Heat spin, but this isn't exactly a leaky organization and they don't really like it as no one would when any of their players are mentioned in trade talks. You just underscored why it's spin. Right. Because the leaks don't come out,

and when they do, it's a concerted effort to craft the narrative. I don't agree with that because Dan is saying that the Heat doesn't like when their players' names are mentioned because it creates problems, and now you're saying that the Heat are actually going out of the way. It's like, no, no, no, we weren't including this guy too.

It's not, hold on. It's not crafting the narrative to, if you think that Highsmith is someone that you care about as a person and employee because he's done what's been asked of him here, you might not want him to think that he's just readily available to everybody. Like, you might not want to insult him that way

when you're asking a great deal of him mentally and physically every day. Are you guys, I'm serious, like, are you guys foolish? Are you fools? Are you fools to think that these players won't feel like their names are being brought up in trades because the Miami Heat haven't leaked their names as if other aggregate accounts

and other reporters aren't invoking it? Do you really truly believe that the Miami Heat can protect their players from having their feelings hurt because they themselves don't leak the names? Is this the logic that we are applying in 2025? But why after the deal is already done, they've already lost out on this deal, would they feel the need to say, yes, we definitely would have traded this guy and this guy and this guy.

How is that beneficial to them? To save face and also that kind of nukes the original point, doesn't it? That they don't like these players names being out there, but then Barry Jackson, who is a great reporter, does some digging and then the names come out anyways. Well, yeah, that's the whole point, right? It can't be both. It is both because then Barry Jackson, who is a great reporter, does some digging and then the names come out anyways? Well yeah, that's the whole point, right? It can't be both.

It is both, because then it serves them, because everyone is saying, what the hell are you talking about? You don't want to include a 28-year-old Haywood Highsmith who went undrafted as if he's this great project of yours. He's a finished product. If we're using logic here, and I'm great with using logic, why would anyone believe that the Heat would not include Haywood Highsmith in a deal

for Kevin Durant? I'm sorry I don't buy it! It's believable. Reporters are wrong sometimes. I would know. I'm a journalist. The Miami Heat haven't been able to pull off one of these big deals in a long time. They haven't. In fact, the only big deal that they've been able to pull off in the last few years, and we're not going to include Kyle Lowry because they got hit for tampering with that, and we all know that deal was made months in advance of it actually happening, was Jimmy Butler. And by that point, they had Philadelphia over a barrel so then joshua richardson goes remember

they could have had jimmy butler for that regular season run they didn't want to include josh richardson in the deal richardson so you have a huge resume building of the Miami heat not being able to pull off these big deals why because they cannot part with guys like josh richardson uh... billy you were trying to get in there and there wasn't quite room. No, it's fine, my candle.

I was just gonna say, you're asking why does the heat would do that because you have a fan base that's now questioning whether or not the people running the organization are capable of pulling off trades and the decision they have to make is like, well yeah, we know what we're doing still. Yeah, Pat hasn't totally lost it. Yeah, he's still the Godfather.

Yeah, he's doing this He's doing that so instead they just throw out the names to kind of save face And if they have to hurt the feelings of some of their lesser players, so be it What does totally lost it mean? What do you mean? What does totally lost it mean? Yeah, what's it it Pat hasn't totally lost it Yeah, he's definitely lost that gravitas. I'm not saying he has I'm saying people are wondering if he has it's a question to ask No, who has it now Bill Zito now? Now he walks in the room drops the rings and everyone thinks it was an accident drop something

Wow, they started looking around I'll make sure there's no pills in there So that's what we're gonna do now. We're not, some people are doing that, not us. Others are saying. Some. Okay, so wait, I'm sitting in a room. Dan Levitarcho, colon. Last time I heard from him, he was talking about

some weird orb thing that he had in his hand in a 24 hour marathon, we were all super confused. Very strange. Called amine amino acid. Yeah. I mean, there is a case. Writing wasino Acid. Yeah! I mean, there is a case building here. Wait a minute. Thank you for that graphic on South Beach Sessions.

Maybe I'm washed. You guys are being really disrespectful. Not us. You're treating him like Joe Biden. I mean, he's a similar age. It was spitballed back there. If he's dropping something on the table, is it his marbles?

The idea that you guys would now make it so that he's in front of Durant? And now nobody wants him to get on his hands and knees because he spilled the rings on the floor that they've just all fallen to the floor with clangs really disrespectful of The door swings open it used to be him just like he his aura walks and now it's like go sit over there Pat That's where that's where you're wow meeting. That's people are doing that. We his aura walks in. Now it's like, go sit over there, Pat. That's where you're sitting at this meeting. Man, that's bullshit.

People are doing that. We shouldn't. I don't think it's fair, but some people are. Yeah, me and Al asked it. Do you know that Pat Riley is basically the same age as Al Davis was when Al Davis pulled out the overhead projector and started going at Chris Mortenson and everybody was like, man, the game is past this guy.

Mortenson. He is old. Mortenson. Shouldn't say the game is past him by, that's not fair. Well, you said totally lost it. I did not, I said some fans are questioning if that's the case, which is why they have to come out and possibly disparage or upset some of their own players. All right, so real quick, just put this on the pole,

Juju, at LeBotard Show, what is the best of the Blizzards? Because I go Heath Bar Crunch,otard show what is the best of the blizzards because I go Heathbar crunch I think that that is the best and when Marshawn he's making a lot of money as being someone who is the blizzard king the rat king he's he's doing well grabbing at the end of it one would assume toward the end of his career that's your go-to the heat? You know what's the most caloric? You probably shouldn't be having that. That's why he does it.

I would say the Great Blizzard of 48. Amino acid. That's why he does it, Chris. That's a better, Billy had a better one. So Chris, Chris, just to be clear, your joke is the reason I do the Heath Bar Crunch isn't because it's delicious, it's because it's the most caloric.

Most bang for your buck. That's what I do. So you have me now aggressively going and seeing what has the most calories. You're comfortable making that joke at my expense, just like your dad is comfortable making fun of someone else's age when he's got reptilian skin. If you're gonna cheat, you should go big, right?

Like if you're gonna have a cheat on your diet, you might as well You might as well get as most I haven't had one of those since college But they're delicious the real asshole is the person who's like I'm gonna go get a blizzard and then looks at like oh this One's the healthiest yeah Jerk no no but the caloric and the caloric Delta is like so massive between the Heath bar one of the next closest You ever get the chili dog at Dairy Queen? Hmm on the pole at LeBotard show do You ever get the chili dog at Dairy Queen? What? Hmm, we're on the poll at LeBotard Show. Do you ever get the chili dog at Dairy Queen? That's my joke.

We're a big Dairy Queen family. That's my joke every time we walk in. You getting the chili dog? A lot of the DQs in Miami-Dade County are late to the whole food trend. They're just the exclusive ice cream. We don't actually have the full menu there. Again, one more time,

Pat Riley is presently the same age as Al Davis was okay when everyone says Didn't leave it any nominee old and he should not be doing this anymore Oreo That is the same age that Pat Riley is right now. He is cross The Al Davis Mortenson threshold Mortenson Oreo Dan alright, so it's just real real clear here because Reese's Billy oh those are good would you call me Billy and Mike doing a disrespectful tap dance no a disrespectful tap dance on a man who until the Panthers existed recently is the only reason we've had any kind of winning

in this town for 20 years because of what he built of the Miami Heat. So I'm asking Zazz and Cody as caretakers for local reason and sanity, Mike and Billy are speaking for a lot of the fan base and being just generally frustrated. What, the Heat are always going to swing and miss now? Yeah, I mean, I get the frustration, but my point is look at what we just watched in the finals. This league is different now man. It's like the Phoenix Suns just got caught doing the thing where let's just get as many superstars as we possibly can and we'll figure out the rest. Look at those two teams last night especially

Indiana. Like we could debate if Halliburton's even a superstar period but then everybody else, they got seven, eight, nine players. That's how the league is built now, is you have to have a really deep team. They'd give up all these pieces, and now you have Adebayo, Hiro, and Durant. Well, I already told you I don't believe that! All these pieces.

Why are you saying it again? You're also saying that you'd be fine with them doing that for Yanis. Well yes. Yeah, Yanis is a little bit better than Durant. If the league has passed them by and they're doing it wrong, they do it wrong with Yanis

and it wouldn't work by your argument either. Yanis is a little bit better than Durant. It's a lot of limb. If they got Durant yesterday, you'd be all in on the deal. I've been fine with it. You'd say, oh boy. Oh boy.

You didn't love it. Where's the chicken? You come in here waving the, you'd say, oh boy. Oh boy. You didn't love it. Where's the chicken? You come in here waving the flag. Hold on, hold on, where's the chicken yells the EP? I don't have it. Hold on. Better not plan for me.

Chicken time. Come on, you're such a fraud. Not me. You were a little chicken. I got the ramp. I think you're an old man. I thought you were a little chicken. Chicken is a trick.

Yeah, it's a great deal. Look at that, look at that, it's a great deal. Good trick. Hey, hey, it's a good gun. He's a good gun. He's a good gun. He's a good gun. He's a good gun. That one chick sounded stupid. Billy speak for the Heat Fan base. Me? People do think of me as the voice of the Heat Fan. It isn't good.

He's been the voice of reason. I try. I try. You've been the voice of the Heat Man. It isn't good. He's been the voice of reason. I try. In all of your frustration, you've been making fun of Swing and Miss now. No, I have not. I've said some people are doing so. If I'm coming and I'm reporting the news to you as I have received it, I'm a man that goes around.

I'm a man about town. I'm not fooling anyone with that move. Some people are saying it. What do you mean? Some fans are saying, my word. How so? He is fooling people. I'm not fooling people. I'm telling you mean fans are saying man about how so he is fooling people I'm telling you guys listen you guys you guys are up Pat Riley's ass if we're gonna be honest with you You guys are not living in reality

There's a cavern up there that you guys are living in you can't hear what the fans are actually saying, okay I'm just telling you what the fans are actually saying here if you don't want to hear it. That's fine But I can't I can't just lie to you. I can't make up news to make you guys happy about what's going on. I'm a newsman. What is the proper amount of respect to have here? Because I've told you, you have heard me

over the last few years compliment ESPN a number of times on how it is they've treated Dick Vitale and Lee Corso toward the ends of their televised careers it's hard to do that in the uh... in this business this business lacks a certain grace at the end it's cutthroat they speak for the fan base spoiled as it is by the relevance of the last thirty years that no one's entitled to here since pat riley got here but

that's the standard and now what howls at his gate in a way i've never heard before billy's not wrong all you have to do is look at social media which can be very brutal toward and against pat riley now i mean he is losing the faith of panthers fans who are right he fans who he seems to who see what the panthers are doing and and say why are we being left behind by a hockey team? You know and thank you.

But I don't believe that they made a good faith effort for Durant. I mean that was a shit effort. If they're not even going to throw it. You talk about Jovich. Kelle Ware is the one obviously the bigger prize and then they're only offering one first round draft pick. I don't know what's true. I don't know what's true. I don't know what's true.

So the bad stuff, we just don't believe that. Yeah, we don't know if the bad stuff's true. The not logical stuff is what we don't believe. Says, you made the argument, look at the NBA finals. You need to have deep teams. Well, I look at the NBA finals, I see a team that traded Paul George to another team, got a bunch of assets, got guys like Pascal Siakam,

guys that Miami couldn't get and I look at okc And the whole thing about heat culture is they're not gonna tank seasons. They're not gonna stockpile draft picks. Okay fine We did with the big three depleted our assets We made it back to two finals with Jimmy Butler doing it your way but right now the Miami Heat seem about as far from the top of the mountain as They probably ever been because even that one year where they got the number two pick, you still had a Prime D Wade. They're about as far as ever, and everybody else's way is looking better than Pat Riley's. This show is sponsored by Game Time, the official ticketing partner of the Dan LeBattard show with Stugats.

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I want to know where you were, man. Yeah. I was at Las Rosas. Was it a big thing? It was a where were you moment. We had a meal? I was home. Say stop the presses.

Do you guys, I did not say stop the presses, why would I be doing that? Did you think I was in a press room? Do you think I was in a press room? I don't know, you won't tell us. Are you of the belief that I was at a printing press? You were next to the wire. Right, union worker.

The last time I heard Billy yell stop the presses is when he was reporting that Daniel Day Lewis was coming out of retirement. Oh he used the phrase stop the presses. Guess what he's back again. Oh he didn't actually retire. Who knew he retired. Exactly. Anyways where were you? Stop the presses. Sounds like he doesn't remember. Where were you on that fateful night? Dancing stop the presses. Sounds like he doesn't remember. Where were you on that fateful night? Where were you? Dan's saying stop the presses. He doesn't want to answer this question.

Why don't you just tell us where you were? Where were you? You could just lie. I was at the Clevelander, yes, I could just lie. Thank you, Roy. You're welcome. But I do remember where I was, and I assume that that,

I didn't think I was saying anything. I know you guys were quick to seize there, but when Kawhi and Paul George were traded, I feel like a lot of people remember that that was a lot of picks and it was signaling a change that at the time I don't think any of us had, hey, and in a few years Paul George will not have gone very far and his body would break. Kawhi Leonard would have had his body break. A number of different bodies, including one last night, have broken during these playoffs in the pursuit of this thing and here's OKC

with the most valuable asset you can now have in the futurized elements of this league which is... oh we can lock everyone in for seven years at a fixed cost where they can't leave OKC because we can game the system by having all the picks and just create this frenzy because we've got an MVP and we've got a team that was actually too young to win the title. Like that team was great and that team's youth showed throughout all of that final

as Mike's sitting here pining for Siakam when none of us thought that was the heat standard when Siakam was available. No, because everybody was doing the thing like we'll get Bradley Beal instead. Okay, but I'm just, I'm, okay, okay. You guys were too good to even consider guys like Pascal Siakam was available. No, because everybody was doing the thing, like, we'll get Bradley Beal instead. You guys were too good to even consider guys like Pascal Siakam because we were chasing the next whale. And now you look smart on Anobe and you look smart with perimeter two-way players,

and yes, the league changed, and I will forgive an 80-year-old man who has revolutionized the way that the leagues change, has gone from throwing in the way that the league's change has gone from throwing in the post to the center uh... to three-point basketball and then there was a another shift here and they did not keep up by knowing that indiana would be good enough with siakam is

their second best player when i don't think when siakam went there that any of us thought it was that we thought that they would get better we did not think indiana was a contender because they got Siaco. It was also a different time in Heat history. They were closer to the success of yesteryear and they had found that their way of operating was the proper way. I understand why Miami Heat fans fell in love with the way that the Miami Heat do business up until very recently when it was probably time to capitulate and they probably went a season and a half, two seasons too long, it was the right way.

But now these are fair and accurate questions. Can we talk though about what it is that happened last night? Because I do, I don't want to just skip past a championship in the sport by merely dismissing it as for me anti-climax but it was such a bummer not to see not to be able to follow this entire season of storylines to the end of would Halliburton be able to test them on the road and make OKC earn a championship in a way a team that young

normally wouldn't win even with its regular season credentials what i was telling you about teams this good during the regular season all of them whip through the playoffs they lose a maximum of three times the entire playoffs because they're way too good ok c just want to series where they were clearly better team that got dragged into the modern i wanted to see them have to

urn it at the end of game seven in the soon as halibut and went out and i i feel like i'm covering sports wrong if that's my reaction a champion is a champion a champion it's hard to earn a championship injuries happen all the time and just because i was emotionally disappointed the game seven didn't provide the narrative i wanted that series ended in the basketball season ended in a way that felt unsatisfying to me because i wanted to see the mvp have to win it not go eight for twenty seven and and be able to

score a hundred points and then and kind of win it but with everyone out there playing terribly but but when you look back on champions you you don't care Time forgets whether they won a series by a sweep or whether they won it in seven games and time will eventually forget that They won this one partly because Halliburton got hurt early in in the final game Nobody's gonna give Okc as much credit and when you say that other teams with regular seasons like that dominate more than they did in the playoffs, none of those other teams were as young as OKC. They were learning on the fly how to win.

And they did so with an asterisk. The Halliburton asterisk is going to be there for a little bit. Not really. It doesn't matter. Kawhi won the one in Toronto, whether Golden State was hurt or not. Kawhi won the one in Toronto.

Yeah, but Kawhi also did so without being able to have two feet leave the ground. Like, look at those highlights. Kawhi was very clearly injured too. He was fighting through it. I think you're selling them short. Wasn't just Halliburton. Yeah, the injury happened earlier in the series

and he had to tough it out, but Denver was injured. Denver was not healthy when they went through Denver. Anthony Edwards was dealing with injuries when they went through Minnesota. They got very lucky. This is the second straight year that the NBA champion, who you have questions as to whether or not they can get over the hump and conquer some of the mental aspects, didn't actually have to take on the best shot of any of their competitors. They got lucky, but at the same time, when somebody with the best regular season record,

they won wire to wire OKC. Give them that credit. They won wire to wire this season. Yes. They own the season. Yes, I love what you're doing right now where you're swinging the top of your thermos wildly while you make a point. I think it should be a new signature of yours. Right.

Three players tore their Achilles here. Mike, you have this way of just saying, tough it out, grind it out, when like, that's what it looks like when you're ignoring your body screaming and looking in game six like your body's healthy when it's not healthy and then other things start breaking. I'm saying tough it out grind it out because everyone does this year. I'm just highlighting the fact that for the second straight year the NBA

champion has had a stroke of good luck. Now you need some good luck but injuries to the team's best or second best players you saw what happened happened with Aaron Gordon, you saw what happened with Anthony Edwards, you see what happened with Alan Burton. These are footnotes, much like the Celtics last year, who kept having the favorable luck of running into a team that had an injury to the best player. So, but I do want to talk about the Achilles thing because this used to be a rare injury in the NBA. It used to be a death sentence. It's a rare injury in all NBA. It used to be a death sentence. It's a rare injury in all sports. And it's not happening to random people. Now we had three superstars suffer this

injury, two of which not even in their prime. So entering their primes in Jason Tatum and Tyrese Halliburton, you had Lillard who would kind of, everyone kind of expected that. It gave off the vibes the same way that the Halliburton injury did. Oh, this cap strain, if you push through, that usually means it's an Achilles. But this is a really unprecedented time in NBA history

to have that catastrophic of an injury happen to three superstars, three future Hall of Famers. How about all three of them, Tatum, Lillard, and Halliburton all were number zero? That's some voodoo shit. I don't like it. Put it on the poll at LeBotard Show, is that some voodoo shit at LeBotard Show?

And I feel like I'm doing this wrong because it was a really, really fun and wonderful postseason, and I just wanted it to get to the fourth quarter. The Pacers, that's the best Pacers team there has ever been, okay? Don't long for the days of Antonio and Dale Davis. This is the best Pacers team that there has ever been and they were a half away from winning the championship with their best player gone and TJ McConnell leading the way.

That's their best player. Look man. He's awesome man. He's a gamer. TJ McConnell, is this. That's our best player. Look man, TJ McConnell, TJ McConnell, is this his mother after the game? Give me a break with that. What do you mean, give you a break with this? She's like, she's angry at the cameraman, give me a break. Well TJ McConnell.

That's you guys with Riley today, geez. Maybe we less helicopter parent. Can we make that Riley and Dan's face the mom? That's you guys crawling up the cavity. Pat Riley's cavity. I did some journalism as a newsman if you guys are interested in here. Yes.

So I looked up Adrian Wojnarowski reported the Paul George trade to the Los Angeles Clippers Saturday, July 6th, 2019 at 1.55 a.m. If that helps. Yeah, that's why I was out last Rosa So I was in an afters I said I was at the Cleveland you were at the Cleveland or at 1 30 in the morning on a Saturday He's not hard to me in your office in that room. They gave you very hard to believe

Yeah, the concrete sick sink in the in the room. Yeah Take a couple the one balcony in the whole hotel. They're like you can have this one It was right over the stage It'd be great if there was like a Mardi Gras theme party at the cleaners kind of toss things out there The parade that I do like is the Mardi Gras parade It's the only one of the parades put it on the pole at LeBatard show better parade Championship parade or Mardi Gras parade. Greg Cody has been the lone voice shouting through the

curse soaked din saying watch the language boys watch the language at the parade watch the language at the celebration let's tone down the language at the party It was fucking ridiculous what they were saying on that stage. I mean, seriously. To Greg's point, individually that Sam Reinhardt clip,

that Sam Bennett clip could be iconic if it wasn't so diluted by all the previous F-bombs. You take the power away. Every parade has a good F-bomb in it. You take the power away from the F-word if you keep using it time and time again. Thank you. Mike's not wrong, and I'm not a prude. I'm the opposite of a prude, but I thought- Put that on the poll. And I was the only one, Roy was there.

We were the only ones there to actually see how many young people were in the crowd. What's the opposite of a prude? It's like a slut, right? It's the thing I was just gonna ask. A flapper. A flapper. What does that mean?

The opposite of a prude? I don't look at you and say, that's the opposite I was just gonna ask. A flapper. What does that mean? The opposite of a prude? I don't look at you and say, that's the opposite of a prude. I look at you and I'm like, that guy f***s. Yes, exactly. Exactly what? I curse? Yeah.

No, but that's not what we were talking about. There's only been twice in this show's history where I look at a guy and I'm like, that dude f***s. It's you and Jason Benetti. Thank you. I write in cursive. I do I curse all right My local team to use so many f-bombs in there And I'm making fun of you for a couple of different reasons

But the primary one at the moment is you saying you're the opposite of a prude now last time you were in here You had your pinky ring and I said it meant that you were open for business and I meant what I said To apologize to absolutely no one The opposite of a prude Chris I want Jason Benetti, what is the opposite of a prude? I want to know what it is because this is not what I look like This is not what it looks like right here. Like you, I don't know why you would go to the links to say I'm the opposite of a prude. Well because anybody who like objects to athletes using the F-bomb

I'll get to the mic! What do I do? The mic's right here! Let the mic come to me. He's been frustrated all shown by the fact that you have not once spoken into the microphone as a professional broadcaster. This is why Zaslow gets so frustrated with you. You're a professional broadcaster loosely. He'll start right here and then he'll fade. Like what are you talking about? I'm having a conversation here. Zas, please critique Greg Cody. This has been a frustration of yours as someone who loves the audio experience

Yes, have some respect to be like if I got to write a guest column in the Herald and I wrote it in crayon It's disrespectful. It's coming from Zazz. That means a lot. It's like a graffiti artist, you know He's right. Now he's right. He's right. How about a harlot? I'm not saying I'm Monet. It's like a graffiti artist doing what? Critiquing Monet. Are you more of a Monet or a harlot? I'm not saying I'm Monet. It's like a graffiti artist doing what? Critiquing Monet. Are you more of a Monet or a Manet? I'm a Monet. Yeah, I thought so. Tralon.

Monet Davis. I'm a journalist. He's not. Now granted, he's been speaking into a mic longer than I have. You had a Go Panthers thing outside of your house. What's that? You had a Go Panthers sign outside of your house.

That my wife asked me to put up. Yeah. And I obliged. I'm not the, you may not know, I'm not the only one who lives in my house. I have a dog, a cat, and a wife, not necessarily in that order. When she asked me to put up a Go Cat sign,

what am I gonna object? Because I'm a journalist? No, I'm gonna put up a sign, who cares? The only ones who see it are my neighbors until you mentioned it on a national show. You just compared yourself to Monet right I love Monet I visited his place in France a few years ago my wife and I did how was it it was great yeah you know the gardens are everything you imagine when you see the what is artwork his paintings mostly consist of, you really appreciate it

by visiting his childhood home. European gardens seem so much more majestic than American gardens. That's exactly what they are is majestic. They all have these bridges and the artwork in them and water and bubbling brooks. So great. Go on. Wonderful. Bridges and a garden. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's

beautiful. Go to France, look up Monet's childhood into young adult home and understand why he's so great as a painter. His 1440, if you will. Yeah, that's right, Billy. The opposite of a prude is a libertine. Okay, there you go. Can you define that for me, please? Having or showing lowered moral character or standards. That's me. The moral character don't get no lower than me. Kidding. You stepped on...

Look at me, Luigi. As you were doing something. I was mentioning Monet. I can't mention Monet you were You comparing yourself to Monet when my brother was a graffiti artist Like I can't believe what you just did to Zaslow you hold yourself in such higher regard to what Zaslow is what you do To what he does. Yeah. Well, we're totally I'm a journalist He's not. You know, I'm primarily a writer who- Disagree.

Who has learned to speak into a mic, and he's a shock jock. You know, and so I'm not insulting him. Neither am I insulting the great Lebo, who I don't consider to be a graffiti artist. Who was closer, Lebo to Monet or Zaslow to Greg Cody? Probably Lebo to Monet. Yeah,low to Greg Cody? Probably Lebo to Monet. Yeah, I'm gonna say that, respect.

Yes. I'm feeling the respect. Thank you. It's not intended for you, it's intended for Lebo. Do you not respect Zas? I do respect him, but I don't need him to school me. Granted, if I'm going like this and I need to lean into the mic,

he is qualified to tell me to lean in. He marvels at how you can be still so unprofessional After all of these years, he thinks it sort of disrespects the media. It's almost impressive Well, it things must be getting heated because my dad's glasses are getting foggy Here's the thing And this is the beauty of me. This is why the people who love me love me I was hoping to hear the beauty of you as I come today. I'm trying to have a conversation here. I love that you're raising your glasses. It's revealed a Zagacki-like farmer's tan.

I know. Take the glasses off. Take them off. Remove your badges. And the floor is yours. Take them off. Zagacki. I know. Alright, just go ahead. I don't want to hurt. Go ahead. The floor is yours. a look at the floor is yours go ahead look at it i am somebody who wants people to hear me having a conversation with with friends and go on as a mine i'm trying to go on we don't need anything go on and and and

like it you know i don't want to be too structured and stilted and and have a broadcasters voice like someone they was a little bit of a me no you have the opposite of a broadcasters voice i don't know how to take all those facts on the opposite of a prude now i'm being from a libertine and you know what that's not a criticism when i say he doesn't have a broadcasters voice that's not a criticism okay chris wittingham has a broadcasters voice

uh... jeremy tash a has a broadcasters voice that's not a criticism okay Chris Whittingham has a broadcasters voice Jeremy Tashay has a broadcasters voice I personally and I'm not saying I invented this but I'm one who does not want to have a broadcasters voice I want to sound very conversational that's why sometimes I flee on my arms and I drift away from the microphone people still hear me if I'm talking like this people still hear me it's not a big you make fun of Eric Reid's broadcaster voice. Yeah, yeah, he's very broadcaster. Roy, I need you to stop being hung over from hockey, please.

Apologize. Like, get it together, okay? I need you to get it together. Sound. We're in the business of sounds. Get yours together. Thank you. We've got Cody over here.

Look at Monet's house there. That is in the preview, it's not on the screen yet. It's Monet's house, yes. Majestic. I have ascended those green stairs. Have you? Yes, I have. Okay, excellent.

It's a stupid looking house. What? It's gorgeous, just gorgeous. There's much of shit growing on the house. They should probably cut that. You guys. They're intended. Get a gardener.

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