The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The 2019 NBA Draft Class (feat. Peanut Pete)

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

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Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by Draft Kings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grow. ram somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan Lovettart show is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings. The crown is yours. Hell yeah. A little play action there. Is that what he did?

Yeah. Oh, because he's going to run. No, he's throwing it. The crown is yours. Zaz. Yeah. I don't know if you saw this over the weekend also. I see everything.

John Morant? Yeah. You see this whole John Morant? I did. Of course I saw what's going on with John Morant. So if you could for the audience summarize what's happening with John Morant in Memphis. By the way, a mere months after their GM came out and very strongly said any talk about him being on the block is irresponsible and he's our guy, ten toes down and all that shit. Well, I'll start up by telling you he's 100% going to get traded.

That's the first thing I'm going to tell you. 100%, 100%. Not 95. For this to happen, what are we talking? Six games into the season. And we're already doing the bullshit, all right? And if you don't know what the bullshit is, so let's play the clip for you.

This is John Morant post game a couple nights ago. It was a loss, right? It was a loss. He only played, like he's averaging a season low in minutes. Excuse me, career low in minutes for now. He's averaging like 28 minutes per game. It was a game he really struggled. He was like three for 14 from the floor.

I don't think he played down the stretch. And apparently there was a discourse between the coach, Thomas Isallo, and John Morant. And then shortly after that, here's John with the reporters. What went wrong to you today? Go ask the question, sir. Do you feel like, I mean, it was anything you could do different, like this? You're right, yeah. They had a whole spill in him, so.

From the outside, and the outside, it may be wrong, but from the outside, it didn't look like you had your usual energy tonight. Oh, I asked according to staff. Why? Okay. You feel like you should play more? Oh, I should I play more or not? What could have been done, what could have been done different,

get a different outcome other than asking the coach of staff? According to them, probably don't play me, honestly. That's what basically the message was. after so it's cool the coaching staff naces with us it's cool we good you didn't have anything physically wrong from his illness or anything

I'm running the way okay I'm far alright alright so like I mean this is a child yeah let me let me clean up a few things number one I think this is one of those instances a lot of times when you hear these terse answers people think oh the player hates the media the media been jerks whatever

this is not about the media no this is this is him trying to in his mind I think, give sanitized answers to cover the incendiary remarks that he really wants to make. And he ends up getting suspended. I don't believe he got suspended for those remarks. I think he got suspended because... For what took place right before that, apparently. The unsanitized version of the remarks that he delivered directly to the coaching staff.

And... Well, and by the way, the remarks he delivered to the coach staff was apparently because new head coach, Tomasi Salo, who apparently challenged him in the locker room. about A, his leadership and B, his effort, and then John Moran's response was deemed inappropriate. And let me also add on Amazon, on the prime games that night, their post-game show, which is like Blake Griffin and Eudanis Haslam, and Blake Griffin went at John Morant with video evidence and everything how his effort was really, really poor in this game. Yeah, I just want to point out not only career lows in minutes,

but also in a field goal percentage, in assists, and three-point percentage. This is, he's having the worst year of his career right now. I mean, I mean, this is a player who, like, leadership-wise, has been a disaster off the court. Has done zero winnings. It's been out the first round one time in his career. Last year was out for a lot of the season. Team played well. When he came back, didn't like the style of play that they were playing.

Got the coach fired. All right. And now six games into this year. We're doing the bullshit? Come on. I don't know if he got the coach fired. I'm not going to go that far. The coach got fired, sure.

But I think one of the things that's really important in the league, I'm not this. Everything you say about Jha, yes, he bears responsibility for it. But for the best player in this franchise, right, for him six games in to have this kind of loggerheads with the coaching staff. It's ridiculous. It's a two-way street, though. Right? I think one of the big things for an NBA coach is, you have to connect with your star player

and it has to happen pretty much the moment you got the job for sure but day one of the offseason where it's officially mine and now I get to shape it the way I want to he should have been with John every day because if you haven't sold your vision

to your best player I don't give a damn how good of a coach you are your exes and O's your brilliance if your best player it's not just the best way because we have a bad team and he just happens to be the best he's a really good player If he's not bought in, then none of it matters after that.

And so I got to put some of it on the coaching staff because clearly y'all hadn't sold the vision, six games. Now, if 40 games in, he's like, I don't think this is working. That's different. But six games in, you haven't tried, I don't think. It feels like the distinction was made that it's like Jaron Jackson Jr.'s team more so than his John Moran's team, right? Like, it feels like the vision was sold to Jaron Jackson Jr. and they want to start building around what he does more than what Job Morant is doing. And like, you can't give a half-ass piss-poor effort and expect everything to be okay.

Like, he knew what he was doing. He knew the repercussions of what was going to happen. And what kind of buster coaches it to not confront what's supposed to be the best player, the leader. If you don't do it, you're a sucker. Yeah, total buster if you don't call him out after that kind of effort. No, of course, of course. I guess my thing is six games in, and that's the reaction you're getting from him. Clearly, there was no sell job earlier.

But you know what? Let me ask you this, right? Yeah. Why does there have to be this all-out sell job by the new coach to John Morant when they've done no winning? Like, imagine, imagine the Florida Panthers. And I'll give a local example. Imagine the Panthers coming off of the most points in the regular season. And they bring in a new coach who completely changes the style of play.

And guess what? For most of that regular season, they were mean. mediocre. Like, why didn't any of the Panther leaders or best players come out challenging their new head coach who changed everything? Like, why can't the coach coach the team? Matthew Kachukh's dad did. There's a couple of the number one. But at least Matthew Kachuk's dad did after a game like 75.

This is what I would say. Number one is the coach came in with a resume. The Panthers. Yeah, the Panthers coach came in with a resume. In professional sports, but in the NBA specifically, like there is. There's a level of like, who the hell are you, right? And it's a reason why people say, oh, why do these former players keep getting jobs? Because players will listen to former players.

At least when the door opens and you walk in and your former player, they'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Now, you might lose the benefit of the doubt when you start opening your mouth, but they'll give you that. If you're not a former player, then the stakes get a lot higher. So you have to have been probably an assistant a lot of places for a long time because what ends up happening is guys, you're, say, your new coach is Jonathan Zaslow. And then they call, oh, man, who the hell is he John Zazzo? Yo, you were in Miami. Was he there? Yeah, man, he's good. He's really good. A word? Okay.

Now, I'll give you the benefit. They would say that about me. Now, Coach Isolo, he's very experienced, but he coached over there in Europe. And so, and by the way, in Finland. So it's not like, oh, he was in Spain. And yeah, I remember so-and-so

played with me in Chicago. He played for him in Spain. You don't have a lot of people who will vouch for you. So you come and this goes, I'll go back to, your exes and those might be salient, it might be right, yeah, build it over around Darren Jackson, we're going to play this way. But if you don't come in with the stamp of approval, we're not going to listen to you. David Blatt was one of the winningest coaches internationally, anywhere, objectively, a great coach on every level. He came here and, like, these guys are like, who the hell are you?

And he didn't take the time to build that reputation or that rapport with players. And so they ended up running them out. he was successful. He was 30 and 11 when they fired him. So, like, it sounds unfair, but man, this happens every year in the NBA. I keep saying it. Your number one ability as a head coach is for people to listen to you. If they don't do that, you kind of screwed.

Now, if the organization is like, yeah, we kind of been trying to move off a jaw anyway, that's a different story for coach. But if that's not the situation, like these are our cornerstones, and one of your cornerstones says, to hell with this, then you haven't done a good enough job selling. your vision. In this specific instance with this specific team and this specific player, when has it ever been Jaws' fault?

When has Jah ever taken any kind of responsibility? I mean, I think... The gun thing. Yeah. He did? I mean, it didn't reach satisfactory levels for certain folks. The second time he did. Yeah. The first time, no, the second time, then he was like,

yeah. It's kind of where I want to go with the conversation because John Morant had the world by the balls. Yeah. He was christened. As the next guy, it had been a while since you had an American basketball player be that kind of star. So likable. He had a rocket ship attached to his back. And now several years later, it seems like a bygone era, he had a real opportunity there to be a face of the league, if not the face.

And now this is going down a weird like Stefan Marbury type of path where you wonder what could have been. Is this guy going to be a journeyman? are a bunch of teams going to try their hand at seeing if this guy can be that kind of pro? They're going to be teams that line up for. Well, you got one on your shirt. The internet likes to think that this is a perfect fit. I'm glad you said that because I wouldn't go in that direction, me personally,

but the heat are 1,000% going to try and trade for it. Really? I mean, they're culture fit. What do you think of that? I think Pat Riley's going to try and hold and hold, but eventually. Folks, listen up. Guy Fieri's got culinary chaos on his Christmas list. Don't miss the brand new series Tournament of Champions All-Star Christmas on Food Network. For the first time ever, superstar chef duels will go head-to-head in high-pressure, high-flavor matchups, all for charity.

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in Carlito's way if I do it for you? I think it's pretty good. Yeah. Stugats. You think you're big time? But you're going to die. Big time. That is on my infamous scale of one to ten.

That's a, that's a 7.6. Solid. Good job, Dan. That's a suey nominee right there. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. It's the other issue, too, is like, there's no adults in the room in Memphis, right? You look around like Desmond Bain was kind of that guy. Jared Jackson, Jr., not really that guy.

John Moran, not that guy. Like, they pay you to be the leader of the team. Why can he be the adult? But you need, I mean, you need good vets in your locker room, guys that are going to make sure that you're on the up and up and doing things the right way. And it feels like Memphis doesn't have that, or at least anybody of note or repute,

that would actually be worth listening to. I would say absolutely going back to the original gun thing. Like, there were warning signs leading up to that, notably the incident with the Indiana the Pacers and their bus claiming. And the loading talk, yep. Oh, damn, I forgot about that one. That was a bad scene. Like, those are all things.

I get it. Again, I'm very much for personal responsibility, and John has not behaved the way he should have. And I don't think his supporting circle, I think his father at some point, which is ironic, because I remember interviewing John Moran before the draft. And we asked him, why do you think you're going to be successful in the league? You know, you came from a small school. And he said, because my father is my biggest hater. And I said, what? He said, my father, all my life, everything I've done.

He's like, that's not good enough. You think so? And, like, basically keeping him grounded. And I was like, wow, that's a really cool, interesting dynamic. He's got Cush-slash. And then it just flipped. The kid makes a draft. It makes a league.

And now the father is like a cheerleader. Just like, yeah, let the good times roll. And that was one of those things where I'm like, yo, if you're in a circle doesn't have people who check you, that's an issue. Beyond that, every NBA organization, When you get a star player who is a rookie, I say the same thing every single time. No matter how entitled that kid is, the reality is they don't know what the NBA is. They have no idea.

Whatever you do, they're going to assume that this is the NBA. So if you come in and act like he's a savior and give him every concession, let you take the third bus, which I didn't even know existed until recently, do all these kind of concessions that they can do whatever they want. You can't then come back later and be like, hey, okay, enough of this. it's my shit right here you're on my plane I'll fly it right

the only thing that seems to reset that for guys is getting traded because you go somewhere else and the new team is like this is how we do it here and like what but in Memphis no it's St. Memphis no more man and so when you have the kind of precipitous fall that Jaws

had in terms of reputation like you guys said the guy thought he was going to be the face of the league he's exciting and Zaz, I would argue with you, yeah, they have been winning. They're, like, winning in our league should not be just, did they win a title, no, or shut the hell up. Oh, they've been at first round one time.

I mean, but they've had injuries and all that, but they've been winning, right? Like, years and years ago, people got upset. I made a Deeran Fox comparison to John Morant, and my thing was like, yeah, because Deeran Fox doesn't win shit. You want to talk about a guy who's never won. Like, there it is. Like, John Moran objectively makes his team better.

objectively they win games, objectively he's gotten them to a point. And then from there, like I said, he's let himself down and let everybody else down with some of his behaviors and his actions. But the reality is he gets to a new situation. They're not going to, unless it's someone more desperate than Memphis, they're not going to put up with that shit. And here is one of those places where they don't put up with that shit. And the beauty of Miami is that the word is out already.

It's not like you got traded to, let's say, Charlotte. It's all right. No more Mr. Knight's got like, oh, shit, but like, wait a second. I played you guys. I know who you guys are. The metal balls are your best guy. You can't act that way now with me. Like Miami, however good or bad they are as a program winning, you know when you step in the horror stories. Oh, they do the body fat thing.

Oh, man, Coach Spoh don't play. Well, look, the first thing Blake Griffin said on that Amazon Prime broadcast was he looked right to his left to UD and said you wouldn't allow this if you were still in that locker room, right? But that's why I go back to Memphis allowing, right? Whether it's teammates, whether it's front office, whether it's a coaching step. They allow that shit to happen. He's messing up like that. Nobody put him in check. No one in his inner circle.

No one in the locker room. No one upstairs. No one in the coaching staff. Right. Again, I get it. It's his responsibility first before we point any fingers at all these other people. But even as he's messing up, when everybody else just kind of was job, what are you going to do? Like, if that's your attitude, you have contributed.

You're not the main contributor. He is, but you have absolutely contributed. Yeah. The Miami thing is really interesting from multiple perspectives, right? Because you look at that locker room, you look at that organization. It's the perfect place to sort of check him where he is and get him to buy in. But their open offense right now was just implemented by a consultant, Noah LaRash. That name sounds familiar.

Noah is the guy who implemented this offense in Memphis. So you can look at it one of two ways. The offense while Jha was out, right? Like it was more so when he wasn't playing. I mean, look, it's the offense that they're still playing. They made a scene. Correct. They made a decision to go to a more motion-based offense last year.

I might have had, Taylor Jenkins was not the reason they did that. And then Taylor Jenkins ends up getting fired him and Noel LaRoche. There was the only two that got fired from the staff because of an offense that they didn't like for some reason. They end up going to more pick and roll stuff to end the season. And that's what got them into the playing the play in the game. in the playoffs, but the point remains, the guy who is kind of the brains behind, the architect I should say, behind that system, advised was a consultant here in Miami, and for this offense that they're really excited about and it seems to be working, which regardless of who the

architect is, seems to be antithetical from the way that Jal wants to play. That's exactly right. And so you can look at it one of two ways, right? Either you get him to buy in, he already knows how this offense works because it's been implemented at his previous spot and it works perfectly because he does seem like the type of athlete and basketball player who can really benefit from this type of offense or you're trading for a guy who is out loud said I don't like the style of basketball that you play and he becomes a malcontent in a locker room that is getting along in a incredible way right now after dealing

with a malcontent last year yeah it's tough because you found something that's successful and you found great chemistry and at the same time you know that this incarnation of the heat has a ceiling and that ceiling is not championship and it's probably not even conference finals Heath fans are a living embodiment

though of a meme anytime a superstar is available in this situation Heat will naturally heat fans will naturally think that it's their time to go whale hunting but they do make a lot of sense you look at the teams in the lay of the land, they probably make the most sense in terms of a team that could use his services in a place with a culture that might be strong enough

to absorb him at this stage in his development. But it does seem a little risky, and you did just have a superstar nuke your season last year, despite all the – we'd point to, hey, we have – bam, he'd be a good leader. I know Jimmy's at a different stage in his career, but they're – They weren't able to corral Jimmy at the end. Oh, look, it's Peanut Pete, man. Ah, look at that guy. Hampton Farms' own peanut Pete just hanging out in the office.

This is very exciting. He wants to come in. Does he? He wants to take part in our nominees today for Nuddiest fan. What? What up, though? A celebrity in our midst. It's Peanut Pete.

We've been chopping these sweet honey peanuts. My God. I dabbed them up, my bad. I should a high five. Let me tell the people, the Nuddiest Fan is brought to you by Hampton Farms. Get Nuddy with Hampton Farms, the official peanut of bowl season. Vote for your favorite nutty fan at Levitarcho on Instagram. We have two nominees today, both coming from the Colorado Boulders.

What? The Colorado Boulders. I like that team. The Buffalo. The Buffalo's. That's my bad. There's two nominees. We have a fan with a six-pack.

A fan with a six-pack? It should be the Boulders. It should be the Boulders, right? So we have a fan here with a six-pack classic. He shaved his belly hair to look like a six-pack. And then we have Andy Reid. And then we have Andy Reed. Wow.

Shirtless. Whoa. At the Boulder. At the Boulder's game, yeah. In Boulder. Is that Andy Reed? I think it's Andy Reed. I don't think he would have missed a Colorado Boulder's game.

I think he would have been there. Big quarterback change for the boulders. Yeah. I'm telling you, it's a good name. Can I throw in a third nominee? I know this is supposed to be a football thing, but I got one from college basketball. Let's see. Any of you guys saw it.

Season starts today. I'm so ready. What are we got here? Loisoyne against Dillard. Guy goes up, misses the dunk, lands, and then I'm assuming he feigns an injury because he just happens to grab his leg a second later. Then limps on the wrong leg. Then, like, has to kind of call out. Then he's limping on the other leg now.

And as he's going, the crowd is going nuts. Including one guy grabbing his name. Oh, look, they're on the ground grabbing their leg. That's a good crowd right there. We don't have the audio's ass. Oh, that guy with the lit. Look at me, he's limpid. They're going. Zazz, we don't have the audio.

I don't know. What they're saying, I swear to God, you can hear it on the broadcast. They're all yelling, my leg, my leg. It's, oh, here we don't. He faked the injury. He faked the injury. Lord. Yeah. No, it's so good.

It is so good. That's what being a good fan is, folks. Not obscenities, not talking about someone's mom or personal stuff. Just ridiculing a guy for what he just doing. Throwing yourself on the floor and pretending you also have the same influence. he faked. Not storming the field, throwing yous upside down.

He's lipping on the old leg. You hear him? He's wearing a different color shoes, too. That's the thing. When you wear the Kobe Grinches and then the reverse grinches, you got to make that don't. Look at that guy.

Look at him. Look at him. What do we think, peanut pee? You like that? You like all those, huh? All of them. Look at that. He's very emotive.

Great to finally meet you, Pean's. Thanks with all the peanuts. Love that guy. Wow. We got salted and roasted. It's kind of like that guy. He got salted and roasted.

Colorado boulders. The Colorado boulders. Thanks a lot, peanut, Pete. You appreciate you. Just loiter around. Yeah, hang out again. Partake. We got breakfast, we got coffee.

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Have you never heard the Breakfast Flan song? No, hit me with it. Okay. I wish I had some breakfast flan. Breakfast flan. Where can I find a breakfast like that? This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. I mean, I was looking at the, at the 2019 NBA draft.

Yikes. Yeah, that was. Oh, that's the John Moran. That's the one. That's the day I interviewed him, and he said my dad was my, is my biggest hater. I'm going to give you guys the top 10 real quick. Zion went one. Okay, yeah.

John Morant went two. Exciting. Pelicans are Owen 7 by the way Pelicans are we need to talk about them later We do? Yeah we do We've got to talk about them I don't think we do

R.J. Barrett went three He's having a little bit of revival DeAndre Hunter 4 Solid Solid, not bad Darius Garland 5 Yeah good All-Star, yeah

Never plays Jared Colver Not in the league anymore Oh my You went six? I like that team's out Kobe White Injured but also

Has had a revival Of late Jackson Hayes I guess Playing for the Lakers? Sure. I heard the heat last night. Rui Hachamura.

Was he one of the white guys? No. Oh, that's in weekend observation. Please hold on to that thought. Yeah, please hold. And to round it out of TAM Reddish. It's just like a good top time. No, he's in Turkey.

Ooh. I think he's in Turkey. Who's a few picks after? PJ Washington. There you go. And after that. Jeremy, who did I hear her right after? Tyler here.

Oh, I was going to say Nick Claxton. Nick Claxton. Nick Clarkson. later on you. Daniel Gaffert's second round pick. Tide Jerome. Tide Jerome. Late first round pick.

Jordan Poole, first round pick. Jordan Pooleague, late, late first round pick. Speaking of the Pelicans. Jerome just owned the heat last year in that postseason series. The thing is that you think about these massive drafts and it's like next year, a big draft for the NBA and then you kind of do the math five years later and it's like, oh, it was kind of sucked.

Look, I've got the drag to win. Well, big draft, by the way, only means like it's got two or three guys at the top were really good. That's all it means. This is what I'll do. I've got the picks and. in front of me. And I'll tell you, Zion went one, and we all thought he was going to go one. And I guess people would argue he would still go one. I would say that I wish his career had

been managed better. Again, I know it sounds like I'm absolving the kid and putting it all on the system, whatever. But when a dude comes to a team dinner and orders a pitcher of Coke, not like a Coke, let me do it. Just for himself. A pit just for, you know how like restaurants, when they want to do refills, instead of just keep coming back, they just put a picture of Coke? A picture of Coke. A pitcher of Coke, yeah. Like, when you see that, like, that's ultimately, like, there's a sign that there's some control issues there. John Morant, still a great player. RJ Barrett struggled with the Knicks, but has had a lot more success in Toronto kind of going into who he should have been,

which is a guy who should never have the ball in his hands should be coming off of downscreens and playing like a... Yeah, RJ Barrett's a worthy top five, like in a draft. I'd probably put Garland in front of him. I would put Garland in front of RJ Barrett. Absolutely. Hunter, solid player. But even on draft day, I was like, he's an upper class. He's okay.

But he's not... Just won the national title. Yeah, but he was just a solid player. Culver, I was like, what? Kobe White was, you know, again, has found himself recently. I don't know if we would consider him a top ten talent even now. Who he played for? Chicago.

So he's still in Chicago. Yeah, he's hurt. The 5 and 0 Chicago Bulls. Oh, they lost. Jackson Hayes flamed out. Oh, they did? Yeah, they lost to the Knicks. Yeah.

Big one for the Knicks last year. Didn't catch that one. Josh Kitty's playing well. Yes, he is. Playing really well. He played really well. He played really well in the season last year, too. They won 50 and 5 to end the season.

last year yeah then it's like you get to jackson hayes ruy atram reddish like there were question marks on all of those guys on draft day jackson hayes was like yo he's very very very very raw very raw ruy achamura he's kind of old and undersized a little bit and not a good shooter at the time cam reddish was like he's talented but a kind of a space cadet cam johnson he's old but he's reliable he's actually had a much better career than i thought he would have p j washington has really turned out really well. Like, since since coming to Dallas, Tyler Hero. Tyler Hero's okay.

We're going through the 2019 draft class instead of talking about Game 7 in the World Series. It is pretty wild. This is a really would look good. I mean, we were 2019 NBA draft class. We're talking about John Moran. Yeah, talking about John Moran. Oh, okay. So if we have to redraft this, right, who goes one?

It's still Zion one and John Moran. Really? You think Zion still goes one? Knowing what you know? Well, so you're saying Jha would be one. I don't even know if Jop would be one. It would be Jah. It'd be Jah, man.

It'd be Jah. Jah. Heroes got a... Not for number one overall. Okay, who's one? Don't give me some... Who's the best player today? Who's the best at basketball today?

Player for your life. And we know who the most talented player on that list is. I'll probably go Jah one. Jaws is the most talented player on that list. What's going on with Jaws between the years and his approach to the game. Well, I mean, you can argue the same thing about Zion then. You could argue the same thing. Right.

But I've seen... I mean, I like Jaws stealing higher. than Zion's ceiling. This is what I would say. Whenever Zion plays, he is legitimately a Hall of Famer. If he'd be 20-20 if he played and had his head on the ceiling off. He would never be 20-20 because he doesn't grab 20 rebounds. He doesn't rebound.

He doesn't rebound well, which he didn't do at college either, by the way. If he applied himself, he could grab a rebate. If he applied himself, he wouldn't look like the good year blend. But that's what I'm saying. Oh, I'm sorry. Jeez. He's what I'm saying is he applied himself? He has a better shape now.

But yeah, I think Zion ultimately, because if we're doing college, Javiat's about between the years, and I got to go Jahn number one still. But Zion, I mean, Zion number one still, Jaws right there with him, which is ironic because it's kind of how people felt a little bit on the draft day. But then it's like Darius Garland would be three. And Hero four. I think Garland and Hero, like, that's a toss-up. Yeah, I don't think Garland would be three or four.

I don't think show. I think I'd rather have Garland than Hero. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Even with the injuries, both obviously having injuries? They both have injuries. I go with Garland.

Are The Heat about the trade hero for John Morant? I don't think so. The trade works, by the way. I put in the machine. Yeah? It works. Oh, you got that trade machine cooking? Let me pull it up real quick.

I mean, you know about that trade machine? Tell me about it. Do, do, let me ask someone. We hear, you know, Andy Ellsberg, the heat, salary cap, all that stuff. He's amazing at it. Do NBA executives pull up the ESPN trade machine? No, they have their own in-house proprietary thing that is way more complex and sophisticated. Okay.

Now, Real DM, which was the first to have the trade machine, they are one of the proprietary software people. So they have a souped up version that they licensed to teams. Gotcha. But, yeah, everyone kind of uses something more sophisticated than what we have available. Good business model for them. We get this. We sell it to you. Great business model.

You use it. You know who else? Had a great business model like that. A little outfit called Draft Express. Yes. We do scouting and then we sell you scouting reports too. and then they turn around and sell it back to the like Australian teams and stuff like that. It's a very, very, very sophisticated hustle that Draft Express was going on.

You got that NBA Tram Machine? I got the Trade Machine rolling Zaz. There we go. Grizzlies acquired Tyler Hero and Kashad Johnson. Do we have to give up any picks? No picks for John Moran straight up. Wow. And it passes.

Yeah. It passes the trade machine. Pass the trade machine in money. Yeah. This is one of those ones where it's like, you're, holding and holding and holding and she's already gone she's left. She's like, wait,

I'm still holding. I'm still holding. You guys there? Hello? By myself. I mean, the Grizzers would never do that trade without at least a pick or two being involved. I don't know that the heat would in this scenario move hero for Morant simply because of

well, A, they know that Tyler is like bought into what they're doing and that does matter at the moment. But B, all we've heard from all of the at least national reporters and even the local reporters is, oh, the heat are really interested in having flexibility this off season.

Tyler, with the flexibility. Flexibility. Don't worry about it. It's the question of whether or not. When's the last time that flexibility mattered? Never. I'm just talking about whether or not you think that committing 42 million and 44 million over the next couple of years to John Morant, who presently

is all of the things that you just described. Oh, you don't have to, I mean, look, I'm not. in on John Morant. I think the heater going to be, but me personally, I'm not in on John Moran. When people say this, I always fire back with this. How many times Mike you back me up on this

are people like, oh, we don't want him. And then he goes somewhere and it's like, damn. He's pretty good, man. I wish we had kind of gone out to him. Yeah, Pascal Seaccombe, one of those. James Hardin. He thought that they were too good for Pascal Seaccom. No, no, no. We need something bigger than that. I'm just talking about

from what we've heard in terms of what the heat's approach is planned to be this obviously. Now, they might not have considered that JAA would be available now, and that could change what the thought process would be. I'm not saying that it's impossible. I'm saying based off of what we know today, it would surprise me if a hero for Morant move was made. I don't know about the future. The rebuttal is basically this.

You get the flexibility because you hope to add. a talent that's as good as John Moran. Exactly. It's the old family guy bit. Like a boat's a boat, but the mystery box could be anything. It could be a boat, right? Like, if we're trying to have this flexibility because we're going big game hunting

and here comes big game in the room. No, no, no. I need this for when I go big game hunting later, I'm like, on big game. No, but not that big game. Another big game. Or not big game right now or whatever. And, like, again, the thing that I always remind people,

you almost never get a superstar who's happy with the situation. Like you're always getting someone where things have flamed out a little bit and their prior stop. Is there a collective package that exists that does not include Tyler Hero? Like I just wonder, I have the question as to whether or not you can do that, right? Because Norm Powell is here and he has not been offered an extension either, right? So do you make this move with the idea of, hey, some of, of those younger guys, Andrew Wiggins,

who we all know the heat at least came into the season of being... Because I'll tell you what, we're going to have a conversation about Hamé Hawkes. Are you brought in?

We're going to have a conversation about him? We're going to have a conversation about him? Cody, I think we're going to have a conversation right now.

M the B of the day. Tony, if we're going to talk MVP, I care about you, Zaz. We better have a conversation about Jaime Hockes Jr. He better be in the conversation for MVP.

Do you understand what he's, last night, Jaime Hockes? 31 points, eight rebounds off the bench. He was 11 to 16 from the floor. He went to the free throw in 13 times. We don't need John Morant. We got John Morant. If we're going to talk about MVP, I mean, better have a conversation about Jaime

Hawkes Jr. Got a great plus minus on the season, too. Of course he does. Those stats are crazy. A win would have been nice. That's a tough, come on a power. You care about wins and losses right now?

What's what's wrong with you? Dude, how crazy is Luca? That's why he's my MVP. I'm going to tell you something. You know what? Of the day! All right. Luca, I got a stat of the day.

You know what? Pull up the standard of the day music. This is the insane thing. Start of the day, start of the day, and this year start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, in this year, start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day.

This year, start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day. In this year, start of the day. Shout out to Outcast. Oh, really? Yeah, no. They produced that one more. Yeah, big boy, you're 100,000 did our...

Thanks. You know, Luca Dines is averaging 41 points a game through four games, right? That's he ever done. This is the craziest part of this. Somehow, that's not crazy to me. What's crazy to me is he's shooting 78% on two-point field goals. Everything inside the three-point arc, he's shooting 78%. That's insane.

That's insane. That's insane. And let's just say, oh, how many attempts? 13 attempts a game. He's not missing. Like, your best hope as a defender right now is that he says, I'm going to try this three-pointer. A step back one at that. A step back one at that.

Can I tell you something? Yeah. LeBron James. Oh, man. His plan has backfired. Go on. His plan has backfired in a big way. Sciatica, no one believes that.

LeBron doesn't have sciatica. All right, your grandma has sciatica. LeBron doesn't have sciatica. I have sciatica. He's sitting there on the bench like a gargoyle expecting this Laker team to stink with his phonyony sciatica. with his phony sciatical holdout so he returns oh thank god you see how important i am the lakers are five and two while lebron is sitting back and watching look at this this has backfired on lebron big way all it took was getting rid of rosier i told you now we got to choose between lebron and john moran

well what's crazy is that now also you can't use rosier as part of the salary filler in any of these means they're being punished they're being absolutely screwed by the nbaa because i'm glad you pop that up because Herbid, oh, this is so good for the heat. I'm like, no, this is bad for the heat. This is a nightmare. This is the worst case scenario. You're not only not getting any of the picks back. You're not getting anything.

You're stuck. You can't move him. And that was kind of the only reason I think you hold on to Rosier going into this season was to be able to make a move at the deadline where you can use that salary and now that's gone. Barry Jackson asked all the relevant questions, which is how much did everyone know? Did the league know? Did the Hornets know? This is at the time of the trade.

Did they know? Seems like everybody knew, except the heat. If they knew, then there's kind of gross negligence by the NBA to not have the heat informed on that because not only, like you said, the giving up of the picks, but like the insolvency, I can't cut him because he's just going to sit on my books. And I can't trade them because he's just off the table now. What am I supposed to do? You just have to put money in an escrow account. That's all you're allowed to do. Got another trade machine.

Yeah. Draw Morant. Draw Morant. Draw. Draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw, draw. Andrew Wiggins and Nicola Yovic? Who again? For Jarmorat?

Okay, well on. Andrew Wiggins and Yovic. Hold on. Jeremy, you know what Jeremy just did? He tried a hold. He tried to hold, but you gave him that one, and this is exactly. Yeah, it happens. I'm intrigued.

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