The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The All-You-Can-Eat Buffet

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Bring Your Sweaters, bring a smile, and bring a big appetite to tonight's Miller Lite Watch Party at Flanigan's in North Miami Beach and come hang out with the crew! David Samson is here as the crew debates the merits of an all-you-can-eat buffet. Then, Stugotz may have a New York Times Best Seller on his hands, David is unsurprised by Woody Johnson meddling, Amin and David break down the NBA media 3-team trade for Inside the NBA, and David tells us about his wild night out with Chris Cote at the O.A.R. concert. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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on plans, and having your unused data roll over to the following month, every month. At Fizz, you always get more for your money. Terms and conditions for our different programs and policies apply. Details at phys.ca. Welcome to The Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there that hasn't happened to you guys I've done it and now here's the marching man to nowhere fat face and the habitual liar David Sampson

Specifically requested that Stu gots be in studios so that we could talk about his book Stu gots Just left to go do God Bless Football and an assortment of other assignments. Everyone here, everyone that you see here, everyone that you hear in the room today will be at this watch party tonight. Browns and Steelers at the Flanagan's. Flanagan's is one of our favorite in South Florida.

We like the partnership and we love the restaurant. I think I love the restaurant almost more than I love the partnership. And I love the partnership because it helps the business. But I've loved Flanagan's since I was in college. It's a South Florida institution. It's Flanagan's, it's Miller Lite, it's us. It's a good time.

I mean, Steelers Browns is gonna be on. The Panthers are playing tonight. We're gonna be watching everything It's the Flanagan's on North Miami Beach one three two. Oh five this game Boulevard They have plenty of parking supposed to get a little chilly when winter is here in South, Florida It's supposed to be like 65 tonight. So bring your sweaters and we'll be out there come join us It's gonna be a lot of fun Dan. We're gonna be so locked in how many river roles you're gonna have I'm hitting the nachos. I'm gonna stay you know you can order extra

Yes, it's one of the fattest thing it is the fattest thing I've ever heard Chris Cody knowing that you could get refills of nachos when they get light on the things that go on top if you have Look at that. Jessica's just learning that about nachos if you have just chips You can send it back to the kitchen and say fill me back up here. I've never been to Flanagan, so I'm very excited. Ah, my boy. Yeah. What is the greatest of the refills, of all of the refills?

Because when I learned of that refill, I had not heard of a better refill deal than that one, that you can refill nachos. At some movie theaters, you get a large popcorn, you eat that thing, you can get it refilled. I'll tell you, growing up in New York City, we didn't have the concept of free refills of sodas was not a thing.

So the first time I actually visited my brother who was going to school at Florida State, we went down to Florida and went to McDonald's and they had free refills. And I remember saying, how are they still in business? Like I could not imagine, like there must be losing billions of dollars just giving away soda. That will never, there will never be a bigger moment in my life regarding free refills than the first time I realized

that it cost them like six cents for every cup of soda they sell. David Sampson, as a business person, do you hate the idea of a free refill? No, you just don't make a lot of money off it. That you do a lot of all you can eat and there are some people who take advantage, but the majority of people, they get full

and they don't actually end up eating as much as you'd think. But when you do those deals inside stadiums, it's the teams that actually pay for it, not the concessionaire. They keep their margin on all the food and they keep track of it. How about the all you can eat buffet?

How do you feel about that as a business proposition? I used to feel better about it. I don't engage in them. My first time in Vegas was the first time that I saw that at 21 years old. And the concept of a 9.99 All You Can Eat buffet, I was never the biggest guy, so it didn't mean anything to me.

But I love the ones, my favorite from childhood was a restaurant called Ground Round, and that's a restaurant in Wisconsin, maybe everywhere. I don't know. And you only had to pay your weight and they had a scale. And if you got on the scale and you were a certain age, so I'd be like, you know, for 60 cents, my my family would take me there to eat. Put it on the pole, please, do you Do you like or have you heard of the restaurant

Ground Round and also put on the poll, do you love an all-you-can-eat buffet? Your problem with the all-you-can-eat buffet is just hygiene, right? It's other people being able to sneeze near your chicken. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of how that works. Cova was actually great for the buffets because it mostly got rid of them,

though it's beginning to happen again. And there'd be ways where you had your individual utensil. I don't love everyone using the same utensil. And I don't love sort of the sanitary conditions that surround buffets. So if I can avoid them, I do. And I do. How about the rest of you?

How do you feel about a buffet? Do you guys like a good buffet? I'm a big fan, obviously, of a good buffet. I love a buffet, obviously. When I get to a sushi buffet, I never know. When I take the little tongs for one sushi roll, can I just use that same tongs for, until I'm done, I'm gonna go to a couple sushi rolls.

There's one at each one, and I feel like it's inefficient to put the thing down and grab the other tong. I'm just gonna take one tongs, I'm gonna do my business, and then I'm gonna put the tongs back at the original little tray that it was on. There's so much buildup on those things when you grab different sushi rolls, because obviously everything is topped with different things.

So all of a sudden you have the one that you see everybody use that has all the residue from all the other sushi rolls on them. Dan, to be honest, okay, I used to like buffets, but now, me dan aco. Really? Yeah. Why?

Because, one time I was at an all you can eat place and I was looking around and I was like, what am I doing? I know what he said there, but Roy doesn't know. Asco. Disgust. It gives him disgust. The rest of you, Amin, how do you feel about a buffet?

Yeah, I'm not really big on it. I always feel like it's not bang for the buck, especially buffets, they're no longer 995. But that's all they are is bang for the buck. You make it bang for the buck. It used to be, but now, like those Vegas buffets, it's like $49, and I'm like, I don't want to spend $49 for food that's not that great.

That's the other part of it, is like, the food is not great. It's just a lot of it, as much as you can eat of it, but it's not like well prepared, well done, well seasoned food. So I'd rather just spend the money on a meal that's gonna fill me up rather than have all I can eat of something I don't really like.

I used to be especially in college, but now I have a wife and child both of food allergies. So what Chris was talking about using tongs on different places. Yeah, he's spreading food allergies. Terrible. His inconsideration spreads to others. If you've got a nut allergy or whatever in some- Shellfish.

One of your sushi rolls is pecan-encrusted or something, you've got a real problem on your hands. If you have a shellfish allergy, okay, I'm not creating your problem here. Why are you at this sushi buffet? Because there's sushi that doesn't have shellfish in it. Samson, what did you have to offer us that Stugatz would have needed to hear as it related to his book sale?

Next week is going to be our big push for the book. We're gonna try and make it a New York Times bestseller We believe our audience will make it a New York Times Bestseller, what are you laughing about? That would be the ultimate in the roar versus reach debate if Stu Stu Gotts is a best seller and somehow you haven't gamed the system and it really is through sales that you didn't do yourself, then that will be your number one accomplice and forget 20 years partnering with him. If this book is in your times best seller,

it is an affront to authors everywhere. What's funny about that is I got a text from him the other day, okay, and fourth on the list in the category of sports writing was the author that we had on last week for Best American Sports Writing. The best all over the world, not just America, well I guess it is America. But the best sports writing from the entire last year

is chronicled in one book and it was at number four and still got showed me the picture of that at number four and him at number one in the sports category. And he's like best American sports writing my ass was what the text was. Here's the thing about those rankings. You have to understand how it happens. That's like when a new podcast comes out, all of a sudden it'll be high in the rankings, but it hasn't had a lot of episodes

and it doesn't have a lot of cumulative listeners, but that's part of the algorithm. And I thought, and I may be totally wrong, that New York Times bestseller was a very simple equation. It was actually based on just sales. So if you're telling me that the newness of a book would make it a bestseller and that that's a factor in that list, that the newness of a book would make it a best seller, and that that's a factor in that list,

that is new information to me. Guys, it's all about a breakfast buffet. An omelet station at a breakfast buffet in particular where you don't have to just scoop all of the scrambled eggs that everybody else is going to so you can get your customized omelet and then just whatever sides you want, that's the best buffet.

That's my least favorite of the buffets. Really? The breakfast buffet is the least favorite of the buffets. Really? The breakfast buffet is the least favorite for me. Even with the omelet station? I don't love, I don't love in general breakfast. That's my least favorite meal as well among the meals. Like I'd rather have a lunch buffet and I'd rather have a dinner buffet.

Am I, put it on the poll please, Juju, at LeBotard show, best of the buffets, breakfast, lunch, or dinner. Picturing Dan at like a sad continental breakfast is funny. Like opening up one of those cereal boxes, pouring it in the bowl. Third in line to get the eggs, he's just kind of standing there.

Excuse me, do you have almond milk? Do you have any oat milk here? It's like, no, Dan, we just have two percent. Did you guys ever eat at the dining hall in college? Because that was an all you can eat buffet that I took advantage of. Well, not only did I love that, that was my first experience coming

from a small exile background of just, I walked in with a wide-eyed wonder to the commissary, the eating area at the University of Miami. Dan started, they started hearing the song, America. America. I'm not kidding you,

the original Cuban defector baseball player, Rene Orocha, who came to this country, I went with him one time when he got to the United States to a grocery store as soon as he got here. His knees gave as soon as he walked in because he's just looking at food everywhere, and then he goes to buy something for himself because it's got a happy kid on the can smiling,

and I'm like, that's dog food, you shouldn't have that, and he looks at me and he's like, you guys have food for your dogs here? Like he was totally confused by it. That was me in the University of Miami Commissary. Like I'm just looking around and I'm like, I can have cereal whenever I want. I can just come in here and grab cereal.

The meal plan just has perpetual cereal. So when you went to the Ratskeller, the whole world opened up for you. Well, no, the Ratskeller, the whole world opened up for you. Well, no, the Ratskeller is the campus bar. This is... Exactly, exactly. It also opened up for me there

because that was my first experience with liquor of any kind because I was not a bad kid in high school, so I didn't do any of that stuff. Judge what? Judgemental, Jesus. I was 35 years old. It is illegal. I mean, who cares?

Gone, Wisconsin. Under 16 it is illegal. I mean, who cares? Gone Wisconsin. Under 16 is not illegal to drink liquor? David, what are the rules in Wisconsin? Can't you drink at a bar with your parents? I thought it was 18, but no one is carding. Everyone on the University of Wisconsin campus in Madison, everyone is drinking as a freshman, and no one cared. David, what did you think of everything

that went down this week with the Jets? As they, it must enra, the entire situation must enrage you, the fact that an organization as large as the Jets just gave everything over to Aaron Rodgers. Well, they got what they deserved. And the fall guy, there's been so many articles about the GM being fired and the athletic just crushed,

crushed Woody Johnson as they should have Of course, he's a meddling owner. Of course, he makes the decisions We talk about it on nothing personal on any of the shows we talk about Every owner is a meddling owner. So what Woody Johnson did is not so out of the ordinary You just would like a meddling owner That's better at meddling than what he is and it just appears that he had a bunch of thoughts in his head about Rogers, about benching Rogers, about the coach, not the coach. And what does it all mean that your organization is not going to do well?

And that's where the Jets are. The Jets are no different than the Marlins. The Jets are no different than pick your team where there's an owner that just has no idea what he's doing, not interested in learning from anybody and just is going to keep firing people and doing everything on his whim. And it just will mean the end for Stu gots. And I feel terribly for him, but he's going to have a New York Times bestseller. So I don't think he'll care about the jets. Also he's used to it.

Let's be real. This isn't new for him. David, this past weekend, we got news of a settlement between Warner Brothers Discovery and the NBA in which they would continue, they got a bunch of things out of it including territorial rights in Northern Europe and Latin America outside of Mexico and Brazil.

But one of the more curious things is they get to continue producing and making inside the NBA and then they license it to ESPN to broadcast. How common is that in a settlement between two agreed parties for a third party to come in and basically be like a third team in a trade? Yeah, I was just gonna say, I mean, it was a three team trade.

That's what happened because the privity for inside the NBA was between Turner and Disney. It had nothing to do with the NBA. And so that's like a three team trade where you figure out what's the best way to get this done. And the fact is that Warner Brothers had to settle. They were not going to prevail in this lawsuit. The NBA had very little interest in this continuing

in any sort of way as a distraction. They've got enough problems with their on court product. And they also recognize that the pregame show with Barkley and Shaq and Kenny Smith and Ernie needed to continue. And they also knew they weren't going to leave Atlanta. So when you know all of those things, you then can figure out how to make a trade. And Disney and ESPN, they're no fools. They need a pregame show for their package.

And they said, we'll just literally take your show, but you do it. Do exactly what you're doing in Atlanta with the exact same people where Charles has wanted them all to keep their jobs, et cetera. So it saves face for Turner. It helps ESPN with a pre-packaged ready to go show and their lawsuit goes away. It was really a win for all three parties.

But how common is that of the three team trade style settlement in any business, let alone in media? Yeah, no, it's not very common at all where you need a third company to come in to help. And I would argue that that actually was not part of the settlement. It was a trade that happened that made it look like a three team trade, but I view it

as a totally separate negotiation because Warner Brothers recognized they wouldn't prevail in this lawsuit. They needed to save face and they needed to not bleed money by even having any of the packages. Oh, and by the way, there wasn't going to be a fourth package. So they did all this announcement of the five year production services deal and the digital deal and Latin America, but only the places that where to really, you can't monetize and it all ends well.

And then they did the deal with ESPN once they realized that they wouldn't have any games. This is kind of like when Disney traded Oswald, the lucky rabbit for Al Michaels to NBC. I didn't know about a trade, but you can trade announcers. You can trade talent. Their contracts are not assignable generally without their permission. It would be as though you guys are under contract and you wake up one

day and you're working for McAfee that you've just been traded in that way and I just don't know that your contracts would allow that but some announcer deals do and some and obviously player deals all have assignment clauses where by know that your contracts would allow that. But some announcer deals do and some and obviously player deals all have assignment clauses where by definition you could be traded unless you actually have a clause that says there are no trades for me. So it's an interesting thing. And in fact, Barkley will tell you that he feels like he was traded to ESPN, but he's really a Turner employee, a Warner Brothers employee. He'll be paid by them. All ESPN did was license the show from Turner,

the way Metal Arc licenses shows from people who own their shows. Katie Nolan, I believe, was traded to ESPN. I think I have that right. Can you tell me, David, what you imagine the going rate for that show is? Like what the value of that show is. I will tell everybody listening to this that ESPN has been frustrated the entire time

it has done basketball programming by its basketball studio shows because the basketball studio shows all pale in comparison to that studio show as all studio shows do so their ability to buy that show when Charles Barkley doesn't want to work for ESPN makes ESPN the big winner there because the NBA and Adam Silver and David Stern before him have never liked what the studio shows are have always found them unsatisfying and so now they just bought the biggest and the best one over Charles Barkley's objections. Well he can object all he wants Danny has no say in the matter he's an employee but I will tell you that if John Skipper on the

sporting class his view is pregame shows postgame shows they're not drivers for me him talking as as former president of ESPN I'm far more interested in the game and the content that is the game. That said, I do believe that this particular show has taken on a life of its own, has the personalities in it that do give it independent value. However, Turner really didn't agree because they were willing to license it to ESPN. They were willing to get financial relief, but they're going to keep those guys and do a show with them maybe about all sports, et cetera.

But make no mistake, they were ready to get a part of those salaries off their books. Can you guys help me though with what you imagine the real cost or worth of all of that is? Like if I had to put a monetary value on the best studio show in the history of sports studio shows. ESPN wants to license that.

What is the real world dollar value of that? Dan, it's hard to say because are you telling me that someone would go in and be a advertiser or sponsor only for the pre and post and not for the game? They're not interested in the NBA. They're interested in just those personalities. That gets tested a lot when people get their own talk shows, when people come from a group setting

and try to branch off. It happens with artists and bands where they try to go on their own. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. We're gonna find out, because Turner's gonna use Charles in a bunch of different ways. ESPN's trying to use Steven A in a bunch of different ways,

and we just don't know whether or not any of those ways will work. So I can't give you an exact amount, and by the way, neither can Warner Brothers. They know what the expense is to produce the show and to pay the talent, but they don't allocate a certain dollar amount to it. Yeah, that's what I was wondering, David.

If we're assuming it's gotta at least offset the cost of making the show, now some of that stuff is static and fixed to the show, like the people who work behind the scenes to it. But like you said David, they've already announced their intentions to use their talent in other ways. So how much of a percentage of their salary is assigned to the making of this show

versus all the other ways, whether it's March Madness, whether it's an all-around sports show, whatever. And even by the way, behind the scenes people, those producers, those camera people, they don't just work on that show, they work on a bunch of things. So how do you allocate a percentage to that? And that's the number, that's the cost, and then that's the, they're going to put a margin on top of that and say, well, it costs us this much, so you need to give us that plus X.

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David, why did I see pictures of you and Chris Cody out this weekend together? As we were, I was in Florida at Meisner Park at a concert and all of a sudden I posted about it and Cody was like, are you going to be in Boca? And I said, yeah. He was there and we connected and we ended up watching a concert together, OAR. And then we went backstage and did a total look at me, Louie, and got to hang out with the band members, which was amazing.

And it turns out that Chris happens to be a lot of fun off the air. That seems shocking. Surprised by that? I feel like the people knew that. And I will say, I don't know if the people knew this, David, a good time. I mean, David took care of me and my friend.

As soon as he knew we were there, he went out of his way. Cause you know, he tried to get me into his area and he got a little pushback, but you know, I could have stopped there. I told David, don't worry about it. But no, he texted me 10 minutes later, hey, I got you badges, you're good to go.

David was awesome. I love it. Chris is like, hey, he's a good time. He paid for everything, got us backstage and everything. Incredible guy. I'm gonna say, David, we did shots and he's actually really relaxed and a nice guy. I have no negatives.

I don't know if you're looking for negatives here. I have no negative notes on David. He was great. Yeah, he funded the whole night. What do you mean? I was not there because of him. He just went out of his way to make sure that I could come where he was. Yeah, an act of kindness, I mean, come on.

What is OAR? It's a band. Of a revolution. It is a band that they started in Rockville, Maryland in the 90s. They've done very well. They continue to tour. It happens to be a fantastic group and I love them.

And I didn't really know about them much. And I was introduced to them this summer. That's how late to the party I am. It happens to be a fantastic group and I love them and I didn't really know about them much and I was introduced to them this summer. That's how late to the party I am. And I will say this Chris that I enjoyed being out with you, though I found as the night wore on, you didn't, I'm not criticizing you because some people would be okay with this. You got a little touchy. So when we're celebrating or singing a song, I found that there was a little extra sort of body to body and hand to body contact that was problematic to me, not because it was an inappropriate place, because any place for me

is inappropriate in that way. But I, I noticed that there was that. So I was okay when the concert ended in that way. It was the other thing I'll say, Chris, Dan, that you may know this about Chris, he ghosted us at the end of the night. Disappeared without saying goodbye. That's one of my moves when I'm not driving and I'm Ubering on my own and I'm like a lone wolf and I know that I can leave whenever I want.

I kind of have this moment. We were backstage, the vibe was great. I didn't want to do the guy of like, hey everyone, I'm leaving. And then everyone's like, oh, why are you like, the vibe was good. So I just backed out the back door. I feel like you're oblig want to do the guy of like hey everyone I'm leaving and then everyone's like oh, why you like I just the vibe was Good, so I just back feel like you're obligated to do that when someone gets you all access and pays for everything Thank you. I'm the king of the Irish. Goodbye. I will tell you that my friends This is actually happened have been in a bar heard the alarm go off from someone leaving through an exit

They shouldn't have and been like, Dan's gone. Like heard the alarm go off because they're like, that's it, Dan's left. So I can do that, but I wouldn't do that to somebody who had taken care of my entire night. That's a fair point and I did apologize to David, but I did feel that the vibes were so strong that it wouldn't have been like,

okay, hey, see you later, thanks for coming. It would have been a no, don't leave yet, we're gonna, and I just was like, I didn't wanna be the Debbie Downer. So I was just like, let me slip out the back door, hop in this Uber and go. But Cody, Cody, let me set the scene for you of what happened.

The band was looking for, oh wow. Yeah, you said that, I don't believe that. I don't believe that. It's 100% true because we all had to clear out and they do a counting of who's back there because they don't want you hanging around. So we had the band, including Mark, the lead singer, he was there.

Nice guy. The head roadie guy was there. There were members of security looking for you. And we were like, yeah, the tall guy, red beard, he was there. Red beard. That's not gonna narrow down an OAR concert. That is not gonna narrow down.

Red beard. I bet they were shattered. Very good. Anyway, at the end of the day, we just did a full, we basically swept out the whole backstage and the lounges. The thing is there's a lot of different rooms backstage

at Meisner Park and there were different bands and there were different band members in different rooms. So Chris could have gone anywhere, anywhere. So we had to do a sweep of every room and we were texting him. He was not answering and there were a bunch of us trying to reach him. And finally, the band manager was I don't think he's here, but you all have to go now. Yo, I can't believe Chris that the tall Chris the lead song guy The lead singer of a band that I just discovered five minutes ago was looking for you. I

Mean I still I question how intense they were searching It sounds like they were looking for you at one point. My wife did say to me David She said David has tweeted that he said at Soundcheck and that it's magical. Put it on the poll please, at LeBotard show. Has a Soundcheck ever been magical? 100%. She didn't say this, but I thought to myself, that's just David showing everybody that he's at the concert. Like that I don't believe it's an actual magical sound check. That is your cynicism, while possibly warranted,

is misguided in this particular instance. This sound check was a little different because they were working on new material and they let us watch them as they were writing and composing both lyrics and the music to a new song. And I had never seen that before, that process other than in a great play called Stereophonic. But generally you don't see that too often.

And so I thought that was pretty magical. You couldn't be more wrong, Dan. A proper sound check of a band. I mean, come on. Bruce Springsteen sitting down at a piano by himself playing Thunder Road with a harmonica for a limited audience. I mean get out of here man. Come on I could be more wrong. I'm often more wrong. I am NOT

Wrong when I say that the OAR Soundcheck was not as magical as David said it was he wanted everyone to know that he was at the OAR concert. And just to keep repeating it, Dan, it won't make it right, but this is what you do. You get this, you think that if you just say something more often and you say it with a different inflection, like a very serious inflection, as though now you're going to convince everyone that what you're saying is right, keep going. I just have to keep saying OAR again and again. And I've convinced everyone that what you're saying is right. Keep going, Dan. But it was magical to me. I just have to keep saying OAR again and again. And I've heard of many and seen many things

described as magical. If I were to make a list of all of them that I've heard in the entirety of my life, the last thing on that list would be the OAR sound check. Of all the things I've heard is this. Because you don't like OAR, Dan. No, I just like magic. I like real magical things and sound checks.

Sound checks generally are not that. I also believe that you were lightheaded because Chris Cody, a good time, was going to be spending a lot of time with you that day. And at that point, you hadn't envisioned him leaving quietly without telling anybody, because he's also rude. Can I clarify, just to defend myself a little bit with the Irish goodbye, while David hooked me up with the band

to get into his little area, I paid for all my drinks. This wasn't like David's like, you're on my tab. I'm just defending myself a little bit here. Like it wasn't- Not even around? This wasn't like bottle service paid for by David. Like I paid for all my $18 beers and that was it. And your tickets.

I didn't get you tickets. That's what I'm saying. Like David saw me there and was like, I'm gonna get you in my VIP area. It was completely nice. All his crew is great. It was dry though, a dry VIP area. But I didn't want that. But you guys are implying like I owed this like...

Kind of did. I mean, it was... I don't think, Chris, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it doesn't matter whether I paid for zero or all of it. You were there with someone else who you also didn't say goodbye to. That's true. Who was forced to stay there looking for you also. I don't discriminate. I just, when I'm, like I said, when I have my Uber,

when I'm a lone wolf, I do a lot of traveling with others these days. When I'm a lone wolf, I'm Irish good-byeing. It's just how I live. Would you be kind enough, would you guys be kind enough to give me the origins of the Irish goodbye, why it's an Irish goodbye

Why the Irish are people that leave without saying something more than others do I'm gonna guess it's cuz they're drunk and they forget to say Goodbye, okay. Well, I don't think Chris forgot to say goodbye I think this was an orchestrated Navy SEAL strike of getting out of there. I was doing right by the party in my mind I'm like, I don't want like, there's a vibe in here right now, I don't want the vibe. I've seen the vibe of one person's leaving too early. You're claiming that you were doing this for others, that this was an act of altruism,

that your brother, Teresa, at the OAR concert. I didn't wanna stop the vibe of like, oh, we have to convince this guy to stay now. Like, oh, he's leaving, why are you leaving? The party's still up. We wouldn't have convinced you to stay. Oh, David, you were vibing that night. If I would have said, David, I'm outta of here, you'd have been like, why?

What do you mean? David does not strike me as a guy that has ever said, why are you leaving? No, David was a good time. David, have you ever done that to anyone? Why are you leaving? I love Chris Cody being such a good time that he expects others and bands to beg him to stay. I'm telling you. Please don't say, the whole thing is going to fall apart. Please, come on, man. There were discussions about what's after this. You always hear say, the whole thing's gonna fall apart. Please come on man.

There were discussions about what's after this. You always hear the, what are we doing after this? The after party. I heard the rumblings, so I'm just like, what? I'm done. Chris, they were getting on the tour bus to go to the next tour date. With your crew, there were rumblings of like,

what's happening after this? Who was in David Samson's Dangerous Knights crew, please? David can say who they were. I mean, I'm not going to out people. Like, there have to be names. Give me, like, descriptions. All right. It was Mike Hill.

No, I'm kidding. Mike Hill. Out of the Friends of David? It was Larry Binfest. It was Mike Hill. And it was Jack McKeon. It was a roaring good time through Meisner Park. Give me please the origins of the Irish goodbye.

Yeah, it is the terrible stereotype that Amin was right about of a heavy Irish population in Boston, Massachusetts. May I suggest we now just call it the Cody goodbye? No. Please, instead of being racist? He doesn't get that. I don't know, racist? Is it Irish or race? Stereotypical, whatever it is. I don't know is it's Irish or race stereotypical whatever it is

I don't know whether that's right xenophobic discriminatory probably read some history books. Yeah, probably okay Look it up is what it means. That's Jessica Can you help me David with a little better understanding of everything that's going on with my beloved rays and their stadium situation. What a cluster duck. So the hurricane comes, which you've of course predicted the end of the world, the weather patterns are all different, climate change, etc. This hurricane was a really poorly timed hurricane, certainly for the people who lost their homes and lost their lives, that is for sure. Secondarily, there was about to be a ballpark deal that was finished for a new ballpark in St. Petersburg with a ton of real estate development.

And then the drop, the roof blew off and there's great photos of it. They're not great, let me say it better. There's tragic photos of this building and it becoming impossible to play in. And now you've got a community where you've got to decide, do we spend money to fix up a stadium that's only gonna be here for a couple more years?

Do we use the money to help people who lost their homes? Do we use the money to get a new ballpark done for the Rays? All of these questions are being asked. And what the Rays did, Stu Sturmburg, bless his heart, he said, you guys aren't good partners. We may have to relocate because you're not willing to get this stadium going. Right now, we gotta get into the new one by 28.

And then Rob Manford came out just yesterday, Dan, and said, hey, let's everyone breathe. Let's everyone try to recover from the hurricane. Let's everyone recognize the weather event that took place. He played the good guy to Sternberg's bad guy, which is preplanned, of course. The strategy, the best way to get the most public money. David, we were debating yesterday over the pirates potential giveaway for this Paul Skeen's card.

And for those who don't know, yeah, they're talking about basically being given this card from whoever receives it, which has Paul Skeens' patch from his rookie season on there, and they were offering a trade of 30 years of season tickets behind home plate, playing a softball game with 30 of your friends, and a whole other variety of giveaways,

including Livy Dunn saying, hey, come sit with me in my suite, if you're able to turn in this card. We now have some of the details on the screen, but David, do you think this is good value, or should this person take this card and try to sell it? So a couple of days ago, I did a full segment on this on Nothing Personal.

Let me sum it up for you this way. When you get this card and it's a one of one, so it's like a lottery ticket, you're likely not gonna get it, go right to an auction house. Do not do a trade. Now, remember, it could be anywhere. You could have someone in Detroit get it.

It's like the big power mega thing that Stu Gottz plays all the time. It could come from a newsstand in out of your hubbits. What do they want 30 years of pirates season tickets for? It's totally ridiculous. And someone did a calculation, but they did it wrong that the value of 30 years of season tickets would be greater than what you can get at auction. And that is not accurate at all. And by the way, the meet and greet with Paul Skeens, he's got an agent, give him 25 K a company or damn bar mitzvah. You don't need to trade a card for it. And a softball game on the field,

the pirates, like every team offers that. And that's like five grand and you can play in the outfield. You want to play on the infield, maybe 12 grand. Give me a break. These is not like a major trade that the pirates offered. Anyone who finds this car, do not do that trade. A follow up here, David, for the Pirates, is that good value what they offered, like for the card? Are they doing it to give back to Skeens?

Are they doing it to put in a museum? Are they doing it to sell themselves? Are they doing it to keep a piece of the great history of the Rookie of the Year, Cy year Cy Young finalists who did not win Obviously the Cy Young that was announced last night. They're doing it. It was a good promotion We're talking about the Pirates on the damn Levitard show is to God got us I would say that is one nothing Pittsburgh damn it. They got us good put it on the pole, please Juju is there any possibility that the sound check at the OAR concert was magical?

What is the movie that you're reviewing today, David? I want to talk about a movie that is called Saturday Night. Oh, the SNL movie. The SNL movie. It is a movie that is all about the 90 minutes prior to the first ever SNL episode back in the 70s with a young Lorne Michaels and a young Chevy Chase and a young John Belushi and Gilda Radner, et cetera. It's directed by Jason Reitman, who is Ivan Reitman's son, Ivan Reitman, who is passed away. And Dan, you are very

confused in how you talk about Ted Turner. He's alive. I didn't realize I was giving off that he was dead. I didn't realize that it sounded like I was eulogizing him. Evidently, lately I've been doing that. Yeah. Sounds like a fine. Yeah. I don't know what causes you to do that. It's dangerously close to a fine, yeah.

Sorry. But Ted Turner's alive. And so is Jason Reitman, but Ivan is actually not. It's a fascinating movie of a story that is very meaningful to me, because if you're an SNL fan, the history of SNL is truly really cool. But it's 70s, so if you don't like big collars and you don't like the movie stock that doesn't

look HD, you may not like it, but it's a frenzied pace, it's perfectly choreographed, and the actors who play the Belushi and Chevy Chase and Dan Aykroyd are really good at being those characters. And there is not one minute where you're not enjoying it. So it's the opposite of the Ted Turner documentary. It's not slow at all. You will not check your phone. You will not be bored. And you may even learn something cool.

The name of his podcast is Nothing Personal. You could catch him every day live at 8 a.m. on YouTube I will tell you again as I always do when he's on with us that there is no single person in sports media covering this particular amount of sports and business and other things ground as David Sampson is by himself on nothing personal every day 8 a.m. Eastern thank you David David. Peace. Howdy loyal listeners, it's Mike Ryan and we're getting pretty close to wishing folks happy holidays. I'm sure many of you are already in the planning stages of opening up your homes and hosting holiday get-togethers. It can be stressful,

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