The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Alleged Gerbils

Episode Date: February 5, 2024

Killer Mike was taken away in handcuffs at the Grammys, and we think we may have found a former NBA player who was around him as it happened. Then, this era of the Los Angeles Clippers and what their expectations should be, Amin does yoga for a specific reason, and LeBron James flirts with New York. Will LeBron find a way to win a championship for yet another franchise? Jeremy wishes him good luck. Plus, "alleged gerbils," and Dan Morgan wants dogs on his team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I am a big fan of Run the Jewels and there are not a lot of hip hop people and musicians of any kind really who have had the late career power that Killer Mike has had where you become somebody in your 40s in hip hop, somebody who is hugely relevant, somebody whose voice I like to hear on issues who's just strong in a lot of different ways and last night he crushed it he crushes the Grammys he ends up winning three awards he goes up on stage and says it's a sweep because he's at the top of the game and then immediately gets arrested and the video is of him being let off in handcuffs and I've been looking for comments from him this morning

and have not seen yet the comments, but they told me that this was a citizens arrest that these aren't even police officers that this is a security that this is so it preceded the citizens arrest maybe preceded the actual police officers who came once he was apprehended these actual police officers because there is uniform personnel? But if you look at the uniforms, I don't know what the LA metropolitan area uniforms look like, but those look like costumes. And it would, I would assume, ruin one of the greatest nights of his life. Over a misdemeanor charge,

I still don't know what it is that happened. I think under these circumstances, this is someone that you can let go and circle back around and not ruin the best night or one of the best nights of his life. So how do you execute a citizen's arrest at the Grammys though? Wasn't it nearby though?

It wasn't at the Grammys. It was like around the Grammys This is from the Hollywood reporter LAPD spokesperson told Hollywood reporter that quote an individual is detained at crypto.com Marina for a physical altercation and is currently being questioned So bumps into somebody he's a sizable human being and then he's led away by people We're still not sure our police officer. I mean this well, the LAPD is not gonna comment on it. Like, yeah, some rena cops did it. But I know, but the video we were just watching, we are still not sure that those are police officers. He does have old school Bookum Dano handcuffs as opposed to like the zip ties of the modern day. And I

would think I would like to hear more information on this, I would like to hear from him on this, but given his activism I did actually wonder, now these details seem to undermine the point I'm about to make, but given his activism I thought to myself, I wonder if he would want the clout that would come from having the polarizing scandal that puts him in the middle of ruining his best night because then he can talk about all the stuff he's been talking about in Atlanta trying to bring peace between black people and police officers because of his voice is a powerful one. But powerful but complicated right? That's the thing about Killer Mike is that Killer Mike was just going viral for not

endorsing Joe Biden presented with the choice between Biden and Trump, which is, you know, your mileage varies on that position and why. The way that he has become a cause for all sides of this in different ways is what speaks to his complication. There are, of course, the conspiracies now of, he's this is happening because he refused to endorse Biden But others might point out and I think it's probably even more logical to do so that if you're going to pick a conspiracy Don't pick that one. I don't think that's what's happening here His other stances may in fact be more plausible even though none of it really is plausible

I would love to see the scenario which Joe Biden wakes up one morning. We didn't get what folks Here's what we're gonna do. I don't I don't think that's the top of his agendas. I would say there are not a lot of stronger voices in hip-hop. Just in terms of power of voice, getting in front of people and speaking about things that- I just think you're looking at that through your prism and I understand why you would think Killer Mike is one of the more important voices and I think I skew closer to that, but that many in our audience would say Playboy Carti is way more important, or you know, it's just a, it's of a different era, and that's part of what goes on with Killer Mike is that he had this whole second half of his career where he was prodigious and he was featured with, without cast, and it never quite happened with him, and then with Run the Jewels,

he gets this latent career immense success and now as a solo artist, he's sweeping Grammys. I just wanna point out, you guys are missing the most important part. Can we run the video again? The most important part, first of all, there's a couple of things.

Number one, there's a guy that looks like Cornbread Maxwell, it's only the back of his head. He's right here on the left. That's Senator Maxwell. That might actually be him. That's Senator Maxwell right there. Wait a minute, okay. That's Senator Maxwell.

Former Boston Celtic. Wow, so this goes all the way to the top. You are right that it looks like That might actually be. That's under Maxwell right there. Yeah. Wait a minute. Okay. Former Boston Celtic. Wow, so this goes all the way to the top. You are right that it looks like Cornbread Maxwell, but I believe that you are dangerously close to saying that black people from the back look the same. You're dangerously close to racism. I don't think so, Dan. That's Cornbread Maxwell.

That's Cornbread Maxwell. That's right there. Yeah. He has a point. It's not racism. That is Cornbread Maxwell. He's got glasses. We need to find out why he's there. We don't That's right there. It's the right height. He has a point. It's not racism. That is corporate Maxwell. We need to find out why he's there. But then let's roll the video please, and I'll show you guys more.

This is my favorite guy in the video. Man in the tuxedo on the right, as Killer Mike is being let out in cuffs, what's he do? Kiss his son. Into a fist, into a power fist. He pivots midair to the power fist. Look at that, fist. Into a power fist. He pivots midair to the power fist.

Look at that, yep. Great video work there. He's white. Video, go ahead and put corn, put cornbread Maxwell up there. Now can you please find it? Can you get a picture of cornbread Maxwell, but from the back? From the back, yeah. Yeah, it slashes on.

There you go. I wanted to talk. You just want a back shot of Corbred Maxwell, okay? This is not that complicated. Oh, there it is. You found it, thanks. I wanted to talk about last night's heat game that I imagine Amine went to, but not to talk, you did not go to, okay?

But not to talk about the heat. The thing that I wanted to talk to Pablo and Amin about is, has everything the Clippers done worked? Because this is the best Clippers team I've ever seen. Where did that come from? Because they're famously the example of it never working. Correct, but what I'm about to tell you is this is the best Clippers team I've ever seen. They are in the years of Kauai and Paul George are like 40 and 9 against the Lakers

They may not be the Lakers yet But they are a better than the Lakers look man the laughing stock on them goes back 40 years that everybody's been laughing at this franchise and then they made a move that traded everything there hasn't been a trade like that in The NBA there has not been one like that and And because of that trade, Oklahoma City is now also good. They're going to have to go through Oklahoma City because of all they traded to get Paul George. And up to now, I would have said it hasn't worked. But you add James Harden.

Now, they're the best team in the NBA over the last 30 games. They're 25 and 5. Miami tried to drag that game into the muck last night. There are only two times this season. The Clippers haven't scored 100 points. They lost both the games. Last night, they barely't scored 100 points, they lost both the games. Last night they barely get to 100 points and they win the game anyway.

This team can win the championship. This team is as good as anybody. James Harden has rounded into shape. Look how he did that. You guys tell me I'm wrong. That's the only way he gets into shape by rounding into it. Once upon a time, James Harden playing in Miami

in the regular season was not a recipe for him being arguably the best player on the floor. Yeah, but you can't change an entire narrative, especially about the Clippers, yes, 40 years of failure, but also in the last five years, repeated failure, where these moves haven't worked out, it's all about the playoffs with these guys. Mike, I agreed, but what I'm saying,

I'm not saying yet that it has worked although I can make the argument for it because they're no longer a laughing stock and they have not been for the with all the load management stuff they are they are light years ahead of where they used to be with it which is just us laughing at them but this is a legitimate championship contender and I've never been able to say that about the Clippers not with Chris Paul not with Blake Griffin I've never thought that of the Clippers. That team I saw last night can win the championship.

I would say that the COVID shortened season was that because they were healthy and Paul Georgia-Quilinard were amazing and they were right there. And they had a 3-1 lead in the second round, ready for a date with the Lakers in the conference finals, which would have been a remarkable meeting, even though it would have been in a bubble, still, as you pointed out, the Clippers have a tendency

to play up to when they play in the Lakers. They love to play the Lakers. They have this chip on their shoulder. I would have loved to have seen that series. It didn't happen because they blew it and the Nuggets ended up winning that series, but I would argue, well, yes, this team is really good. They're great even.

It's the best Clippers team There's ever been I'm just saying that that 19-20 team was pretty damn good too. Okay on paper You're splitting hairs on me. They added James Harden and can now win the championship. Yes Provided certain things about that's for everybody. Yes, they can win the championship is not something I've ever said When it comes to this team, when they're never healthy. Hold up, but then I'm going back to spin hairs. Yes, you could have said that in 2019, 2020. Okay, absolutely.

But I mean, then it's worked. Then it's worked. Then if I could have said that in 2020, then this is the best incarnation of the Clippers that there has ever been. They haven't even hit the All Star break. Who are you to say it's worked? I think this highlights something

incredibly nuanced in sports conversation, right? The idea that when is it, can you say it worked? Only when you went to championship? When you stopped the laughter. When you stopped all of the laughter. We had stopped the laughter. Guys, Amin is so close to saying trust the process. I mean, you're so close.

You're so close. I haven't even started paying attention yet. That's true. I can't, I can't close the door on a narrative when the games don't matter. What matters about Paul George and James Harden and Kawhi Leonard is them all being healthy and doing it in the postseason.

You can't say it worked. We haven't even gotten to Indianapolis yet. The James Harden. They're still playing pro football. What are you talking about? Worked. The James Harden thing is the big question here. Like that's what we're talking about. Dan very vociferously proclaimed they added James Harden and now they can win a championship,

which if you were to say that out loud before this recent run would have gotten you roundly mocked. And I agree. James Harden, his demise, rumors of his demise were greatly exaggerated. But the question to Mike's larger point is postseason. That's what it all came about. That's when we laugh at them.

Yes, it is what you laugh at, and you laugh at two of the three guys that they've got, but you sure as shit don't laugh at one of them. The guy who leads that team, the quietest guy that leads that team, you do not laugh at him. No, I can't laugh at one of them the guy who leads that team the quietest guy that leads that team you do not laugh at him No, I can't I can't laugh at him, but he also has an availability issue It's the three guys that have injury but he's never had this much help He has he has never had maybe in San Antonio maybe in San Antonio

He's never had this much help, but the people that he's depending on are Paul George James Hardin and Russell Westbrook Even though he's a bit more of a role player now, historically? Those guys you like depending on? They get hurt too. Okay, I mean you can question them all you want, but over the last 30 games they're better than anybody. It is funny that this whole experiment, right, it's not just about this season, it's about the Steve Bomber era.

Does it elicit groans when you talk about the way they went all in on these guys left their future invest in the present like this season this postseason is going to decide whether Steve Bomber is Somebody that we should be mocking or Somebody who is like the model of a guy who cares about going all in and cares about basketball The gods isn't here and yet he's here in spirit. Win the championship in February. Folks, whether you're hosting a game day, a movie night, DiGiorno knows that planning a watch party on a budget isn't easy.

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where a literal stretch he had, where he was getting very, very healthy and felt good about himself. And then sloth ensued. And things got a little sloppy, a little undisciplined. And now he is back to doing yoga, but it's bittersweet because he's often doing it when we've already started, and I need him to do his job.

He can do yoga on his own time, not on company time. I'm prioritizing my health and wellness. For a second, I was assuming that you were prioritizing learning how to suck your own. Bleep. Go sit in the penalty box. No, he's right. I thought it was the same thing.

Wait, you can go with that. Hold on, what? Excuse me, YouTube and the draft, he can't work. Go mind out of the gunner. Go mind out of the gunner. Two minutes, and I think it should be more than that. That's why people do that. Great delivery there.

I mean, a bit charring, a bit charring. Well, that's why we like Pablo. He brings us smart. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Stugatz is missed in spirit. He will produce at least one hour of content we have been promised, the good stuff, the gold. And we're gonna bring our worlds together here intersecting. Like I've told you many times,

I don't expect you to understand this, but it's hard for us to move our entire crew at one time. So we're doing it in shifts. Yeah, well, it's hard to do that and still meet all your deliverables because we want our audience to get fresh content. So forgive some continuity issues that you may seize on as we piece together this week's content strategy as we go in shifts. As Dan mentioned, there's going to be all fresh content for you this week. If Seagots is magically in the studio in Miami when you know them to

be in Vegas, just kind of let that one slide. There's not going to be a lot of that. We're going to try and give you as much fresh stuff as we can. Well, it's all new to you, no matter what. That's correct, but live stuff, stuff that's the day of. So it's good stuff that we will have for you all week. Again, I will tell both the audience and our employees here. This is meant as a celebration of all the things

that Metal Arc has worked hard to do for two and a half years where we celebrate with a big giant party at the Super Bowl. And it's the company throwing a lot of money and resources at us having a good time with you, for you, around you. If you're with us, you should be with us because we promise that it will be fun to be around us in Vegas.

We are going to take over that spot. The hotel, the Cirque has been a great, great partner. Beautiful hotel. Yeah, it's just gonna be fun. And I'm really excited about we're not doing this the way that everybody else is doing. That we're aggressively, purposely trying to do it a different place downtown.

I love the history of downtown Vegas. I love the history of downtown Vegas. And so I'm thrilled to be doing it there. I've never been, so I don't know the difference between the strip and downtown. So when you guys talk about downtown Old Vegas, I'm like, oh, okay, sure. So it used to be that you didn't want to go anywhere that wasn't on the strip, because Old Vegas was called Old Vegas for a reason.

But in recent years, hand in hand with the circus popping up over there, it's had a revival. Fremont Street isn't this thing that you avoid. It's where you go to experience live music. And that Old Vegas, in air quotes, has a nostalgia to it that is really appealing. And also, I love the set of bars that they have in that surrounding area.

I find myself now taking an Uber away from the strip and going to Circa that's at the heart of that whole area. So Mike, like originally that was the strip downtown Vegas. Then what happened in the 90s was they started building these mega resort casinos south on the strip. Yeah. And they essentially shifted the focus down there. Which coincided, don't forget with Cyrus A virus

being flung from a fire department vehicle on Fremont Street to a nearby conveyor belt. So what ended up happening was downtown became, as Mike said, oh that's Old Vegas, no one wants to go there, but what's happened in recent years with all the renovations, you've got that incredible, the biggest, I believe it's the biggest LED screen

in North America for sure, perhaps in the entire Western Hemisphere. It's one continuous roof, there's just one big screen, and they've got graphics going. And like Mike said, there's live music. If you follow the LeBertart Show account, you see Juju and Mike Pintas dancing to live music. Everyone's trying to catch up to Chris.

Yeah, I've only been to Vegas once, and I've only experienced heartbreak, and not for the usual reasons of losing money. I just witnessed the worst Stanley Cup final game in history. Was that the game where three guys finished the game on the bench for Florida? Yeah. I've never seen that before. Yeah.

Put it on the poll, please, at LeBatard show. I'm just curious whether you're dating yourself with Conair references or not. Just have you seen Conair? Yes or no is no question. I'm asking the audience at LeBatard show. Conair, this fraud in the back back row has never seen any Rocky movie I've only seen Creed the first one and I saw it on an airplane and so I didn't get to see the final fight scene Now I was gonna play

But you didn't even you didn't even appreciate it. I don't even know who I mean I can make assumptions He won but no I didn't I didn't He moved up to Heavyweight the next movie by the way spoiler really yeah, Really I wasn't done I was saving that one Yeah, there is a generational gulf here that we're going to perpetually need to address so con air is ancient But hasn't seen any of the Rocky movies I mean was trying to put his bunny back in his box Is that another second go sit sit out there? second go sit sit out there get out of there get out of there get out of that one get a bunny give me the stat of the day please give me the stat of

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Venmo and PayPal. You gotta wait till he's done singing. It's disrespectful. I just kind of felt like you were gonna not wait for the liner, so I just tried to get in there. I could go sit with Paul Blow. Yeah, you're right.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll leave you here for now. There's a lot of planning involved in the next week. I'm going to be hesitant to penalize you because we kind of need you. Oh, immunity. We need you in a lot of different ways.

They're real mad. They've got immunity. So last week, I gave the stat of the day from Legion Hoops, I mean, that I thought was fairly shocking, which is that Bradley Beal, Kevin Durant, you remember the stat? You're here for it? Yeah, Devon Booker, that that big three had already played more games together than the big three of Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and James Harden. I thought that was fairly stunning.

This stat, baseball produces stats like this. I don't know if it's as good, but I like it. So in his 10th at bat, Ichiro got his third hit in his 10th at bat, and his batting average never dipped under 300 again. Wow. Okay, that's crazy. That's nuts.

There was a little infield hit to the left side of the infield, and he was never under 300 again. He never started the season with like a mini slump. He did, but it never did. No, but I'm saying his career average never came under 300 ever again. Like, yes, maybe. I have him like started, first first time I've getting hit every season That is always working his way down from a thousand No, okay. I see why you would get I'm sorry. I should have said it that way

Yes, that he never started a season over one is That is not the stat the stat is just his career average never went under 300 again I mean yelled at me today when i came in because uh... i missed this time in our lives mike when basket ball was dominated by not just lebron james but the things that lebron james was thinking in doing and where would he move i mean help my amy i'm say, fell in love with

the transaction in sports. Right there with LeBron James. The idea of is he coming? Is he staying? He could change everything with one move. And Brian Wynne Horst is now saying on the Hoop Collective podcast that LeBron James was cognizant and aware that he was putting on a towel that said New York Knicks on Saturday night. Why would he mess with the Knicks because he was using the Knicks as a tool to pressure the Lakers and quote. I was asking me when we came in here, I'm like, did LeBron do all of that on purpose where he's walking into the arena wearing Knicks colored sneakers, the towel, Knicks

towel, even though all of the towels there are going to be Knicks towels, but also the quotes in the media scrum where he says, admits, I think it's for the first time, yeah, I've thought about a career in New York. I've not thought about that. He put his name, I think, for the first time on, I've considered New York. You guys are all looking at me like I'm an asshole. No, no, no, no. Yeah, number one, I'm marveling that a, I do look at you like that a lot and I have to work on me, I'm sorry.

But I'm so marveling that at his age, as he approaches 40, he still has the game to demand the capital. The social capital in still being able to leverage. I'm a desirable asset. I can take everything to New York in a second if you don't do this. He's 39 years old. He's the oldest player in the league. And he is still like that stature where you're afraid. Oh no, we're getting leveraged here. It's amazing. I mean the Lakers certainly need to be

afraid because not because he's gonna go to the Knicks but that he's not going to come back. But what did you think of Rich Paul? Who did he talk to? Was it way harsh? Leon Rose. But Wendy, always read Wendy. Wendy had the report of me that this, for people who don't know how the Knicks are run,

they're run by Leon Rose, CAA guy. This is an agency that has its tentacles deep into that organization, unlike pretty much any other team in sports, arguably. Deep into a couple of organizations. That more more than any though. That more than any. But the Knicks. More than ESPN now that Nikon has left. I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

You sure about that? But Leon Rose, former agent of LeBron James, right, they did not part ways in a way that endeared Rich Paul and LeBron to him. And so the subtext of will LeBron go to the Knicks has always been this cold, not even cold war, just like an active tension between the two and Wendy reports that there has been thawing. A reconciliation perhaps. Yeah I mean we can't we can't overlook that there was a he left Cleveland in really bad circumstances, and he found a way to make it work with Dan Gilgore

because it was convenient. As a pivot, as a career pivot, go to New York. He's always spoken very highly of playing in Madison Square Garden. One, another act in the career, there's gonna be another act. Well, I think he should do it. Here's the argument for LeBron

actively pursuing a move to the Knicks, because he's already shown you what the power of one title to a market can mean. Him winning one for Cleveland did re-establish a new Jordan-LeBron narrative that he can catch him in the significance of these titles. If he brings a title to Miami, it's crazy. It's the biggest move on the board. And New York, it's the best move on the board.

How you can eclipse MJ? He can never be 6-0, but what he can do is rescue Morban franchises in a way that MJ couldn't. MJ went to the Wizards of what happened at 3940. They didn't make the playoffs. LeBron says, I went to insert team here and I gave them the joy that they've never known in their lives.

To paraphrase this very same Brian Windhorst, I would say, hey, it's like a drop in the bucket. He says, no, it's like the perspiration on the side of the bucket. When you talk about getting a championship for Cleveland, compared to getting a championship for the New York next football. No, if you do it in Los Angeles, New York,

Cleveland, and Miami. And it's absurd to even say. It's an absurd thing to say, and it would... I was confused by Rich Paul saying flatly, he's not going to be traded. That... Rich Paul was willing to be quoted saying that... I don't believe him. I do. I don't believe him. I do. It's just, but there's just... This is why that. I don't believe him. I do. I don't believe him.

I do. It's just, but there's just, this is why I say I don't believe him. There's no tax on whether he ends up being traded, requesting a trade. There's no punishment if you had said it before. Like, no, who cares? What it is seemingly is something that he says because right now it comes, the water's enough to make it more comfortable for the Lakers to make moves. But other than that, I don't see the incentive.

I mean, there's not a better move. If you're thinking, look, LeBron just scolded everybody today. Over the weekend, there's the video of him saying, ah, too many kids caring about jewelry and shit. While he goes to Los Angeles to empire build. Great old man talk from LeBron. Yeah, but also kids. Also bogus, though. yeah, you were buying jewelry,

I was making movies. Like he went to Los Angeles purposefully. I didn't think there was another move. There's another move. Like if he were to go to. Well, not if we give up four in a year. That's what's gonna happen, isn't it? It's Mitchell Robinson, they don't wanna give up.

It reminds me of when Miami fans were like, I love the 42 and 40 Lamar Odom. He, you can't trade Brian Grant and Lamar Odom for Shaq. And it's the same shit. Like, what do you, Stugots is here saying, I don't want him. Stugots is saying, as a Knicks fan, I don't want LeBron James.

It is madness. It is madness. To not want him. How many people in New York have fallen in love with this team and aren't going to be happy that Jalen Brunson's usage rate is going to go down? There's a parallel, right? There's a bit of a parallel with the Carmelo Anthony trade, right? A team that was beloved, Wilson Chandler, right? Like, remember those guys? Wilson Chandler and them boys?

Timofey Mazgov. That's right, Mazgoff. Yep. And they traded it all for Mellow. Now, this team is way better. This Nick's team is way better than that team. It's perfectly aligned. It's the best one in 25 years.

They're built to take him on right now. This is the best Nick's team in 25 years. I think I want to see it. And I don't like the Knicks at all. Who wouldn't want to see it? I think, wow, could basketball use that LeBron going to the Knicks? Well, first of all, it puts LeBron back in the Eastern time zone, which is single-handedly probably

one of the biggest reasons why ratings have gone down in the NBA is because LeBron puts all his games at 10 p.m. That's an amazing theory. I mean, look, it's vetted. Puts him physically next to the commissioner's office so he can buy the next team that he wants to buy. Hey, Adam Silver, we've been in partnership for 20 years, right? You're kind of my commissioner.

You're my ally. You changed the All-Star game for me. How about I come to New York and save your sport? Now, counterpoint why I think he doesn't get traded and doesn't want to be traded, because I think a lot of what this last chapter of LeBron, this previous chapter of LeBron has been, hasn't been empire building. It's been family man. It's been how do I give my sons the best chance at being pro players in their own right.

And so part of that was we got to move from Ohio. We got to go to California, which is generally considered the best In high school talent in the nation right now, right? And now the kid goes to SC. He's there I don't think he's gonna leave midseason maybe Okay, and maybe not but and you take out Miami in New York Mmm, and you take out Miami. Well, good luck. What? No, there's the Homer Well, good luck. What? No, there's the Homer

He whispered something in my ear earlier. I was like, oh, that's a good point I'll try to lob him up so you could take that point which was you mean Pat Riley thawing things with Marco from Treboica and taken don't know what that means good luck. You've never seen taking now Treboica and taken don't know what that means good luck never seen taken now The Dan LeBartard show is two gods is presented by DeGiorno. It's not delivery. It's DeGiorno There's nothing that he can do to convince me he hasn't removed two ribs talking about Marilyn Manson Yeah, that's not Mandela fake. That was an actual rumor. Rumor. So there are a couple rumors like that. Richard Gear had like a gerbil in his ass. Yeah. Well that one's true. Tommy Hilfiger went on the Oprah show and said, if I knew black people would wear my clothes, I never would have made them. That's my favorite one.

He said that? Did that? Do we know that Richard Gear, if that was true, you're saying it's true and I've only heard, I've never heard that confirmed. No, no, no, it's true in that South Park made an episode about it. But before South Park, this was a thing like at school, people like pre-internet gossiped about. That can't be true. Marilyn Manson, no ribs, Richard Gere, gerbil,

Tommy Hilfiger hates black people. Those three ones dominate the party. Just be clear, if Richard Gehr is a litigious, I said it's true in a joking character fashion. That's right. Alleged gerbil. But the journey of Lemmy Winx is an episode. Mike, there are a couple of videos here

that I would like to play. And I was just telling, the good luck came from Jeremy. And I will explain, over-explain, even though I wish I didn't have to over-explain so much. I'm sorry. Before you do that, I just want to point out that Pablo said the alleged gerbil, and all of us have been worried about Richard Gears doing us, what if the gerbil suits us?

Hey, I was never up Richard Gears' ass. All of us hamsters and gerbils look alike, huh? It was Armie Hammer. Go sit in the penalty box. Oh, come on! I'm sorry, I mean, you gotta go, man. You should do some yoga in the penalty box. Oh, come on! Oh, I'm sorry, I mean, you gotta go, man. You should do some yoga in the penalty box. See if you get to the endgame sense.

Go do yoga in the penalty box. I mean, how that goes, I'm curious. At the end of the last segment, you heard Homer Jeremy, who somehow has become more of a Homer than any heat Homer we've ever had around here, and I didn't think it was possible for any human being to do that, when Metal Arc Media employs Periket Cortez. But he said good luck to LeBron James and the Knicks, because he is a heat fan,

and the reference that I made was from the movie Taken, and it's Liam Neeson starting to become an action hero, and when he was going to get his kidnapped daughter back the kidnapper told him on the phone from Treboica good luck it didn't end well for him LeBron James and the Knicks and this condition of the Miami Heat where they look like they are not in any way a team that can do anything in the playoffs as you try to make arguments on behalf of Duncan Robinson and Duncan Robinson missing last night's game and that's the reason that they've lost

eight of their last ten. I haven't tried to make that argument quite yet but I would because he is a big part of the offense look they lost last night to the team you just said earlier in the show, was the best team at basketball over the last 30 years. But they lost to Memphis at home to start this. Yeah, they had a really bad stretch in the middle of this month. They lost seven in a row. Last year at the end of February and beginning of March, they lost six out of seven. If you look at all of the teams in the NBA and their standings,

where they are in terms of greater than or less than where they were at this point in the regular season last year, the heat are the closest thing to exactly what they were last year in the regular season. That's not to say that that's always replicable for success, just turning it on in the postseason. But Jimmy Butler himself has said, I have to be more aggressive and when I'm aggressive we're better. They lost last night to one of the best teams in basketball. We'll see how they span over this next stretch before the all-star break because you finish off the first half with Boston Milwaukee Philadelphia three games in a row to end the first half

You got a couple of games before that against you know the lesser team What's it gonna take for you to go dark like what's it gonna take it won't happen till after they've lost right yeah I mean look the reality is, is that this team, I came in here during the seven game losing streak and I said, this looks like the wheels are falling off. I said that the offense has been a disaster, the defense has been a disaster.

It was. The Clippers are top three offense and defense. The Heater bottom five offense and defense over the last month. Correct, and then their defense last night slowed down one of the best offenses in basketball. I compared it to watching like the 2006 Chicago Bears, where you have to just

accept like, it's not going to be aesthetically pleasing, but they're going to bring everyone into the mud. It's awful, it's awful what they did. This is what I sounded like? Yes, it's bad. This is what you sound like. Guys, they. Yes, yes. Was I always a whiny? Yes, yes. Okay. Yes, this is what you and you didn't have any seven game losing streak. But they had Dwayne Wade on their team. Well, but you're spoiled. Jimmy Bump. You're spoiled and entitled and you had reasons for your arrogance and positivity. Three conference championships, or three conference titles

in the last four years, two NBA Finals. And there's no reason to believe that this core can continue to succeed, right? I'm not here. No, the reason is looking at the Sandings. You just finished arguing that the regular season didn't matter for another franchise. It's really good.

Right, OK, so it hasn't started. So then it doesn't matter. Who are you It hasn't started. It hasn't started. Right, okay, so it hasn't started. So it doesn't matter. Who are you to pull pulls on what I'm saying? What? Isn't that my job? Can you show Jeremy Pleas the scene from Taken so that he learns when he tells LeBron James lead Nix team, good luck.

I just want you to see what it is that you just did. I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you're looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I've acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you.

I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you. I will find you. And I will kill you. Ass off. Good luck. As I said, it didn't end well for... Good luck getting past Haywood Highsmith.

Okay, very good. I saw earlier a clip this weekend from one of the most unlikely people in my life to have seen rise from college to a position of substantive power in sports. Whenever I talked to Dan Morgan when he played at the University of Miami, he was maximum football player guy. Blank face, I will just run through your face even if you're made of concrete. And there wasn't a lot of humor there and I would say

I wasn't able to have long substantive conversations about much of anything with Dan Morgan because he was about football and only football and now he's the Panthers general manager and I'm kind of surprised not that he would rise to a position of that kind of power in football, but that this is now the face and mind and voice for what has been the worst team in football. We need to find those leaders, those competitors.

As Jay Stewart say, those dogs. We need some dogs. We gotta get some guys that are passionate about football, and love football. They wanna come out every day and compete. On the practice field, in the weight room, we need competitors. We gotta bring that back here. We gotta bring that back here to the Bank of America stadium

to where people get excited about coming to see our team. He blinked only once. I was gonna say, those eyes are, are, are terrifying. Horrifying. Uh, only one time did he blink. That's fairly hard to do, I think, but not the first reference, reference in the region to playing like dogs. Here is David Bennett a long time ago, the coach from Coastal Carolina.

Trying to get our two boys ready to carry them to golf tournament for practice, right? 12 cats live across the road. Our door's open, screens broke, we need to get a new screen door, but the screen's broke, so you come in through the screen, but you can't get back out of it.

I turn and look, there's a little kitty cat in our kitchen. So I said, what are you doing in here little kitty cat? By that time the cat turns, tries to get back out, that scream won't go that way. The cat starts going meow, all crazy. And I told our players we need more dogs. Bo's barking in the back, I have to go shut Bo up. Mel's like, what's going on? I said, it's a cat in the house. Cat in the house. I said, yeah, it is a cat in the house. So I told our players I tried to let it out the front door. The cat's still going crazy in the house so I told our players I tried to let it out the front door yeah cat's still going crazy in there now told our players you need to be more like a dog we don't need a bunch of cats in here

looking in the mirror I look good I got my extra bands on I got my other shoes oh be a doll we don't need no meows we don't need no cats we need more dogs I would hire that guy if that's all he sent me for an interview to any job. How great is that? It's a little bit more personality than Dan Morgan. Mike, did you know Dan Morgan at all? Did you ever speak to him at the University of Miami? I never spoke to him at the University of Miami.

He's hung around the program some afterwards. He's a very intense individual from his playing days. It looks like he should be wearing a neck roll under his suit. Ha ha ha ha ha. I've also been fascinated. Oh, he actually wore one, of course he wore one.

Of course he actually wore one. Kind of fascinated with the ascension of Dan Morgan, given how singularly focused he was as a player. The fact that Dan Morgan is wearing a suit and dying in an executive position, I think, is just wild when he contrasts it, as you had earlier in this segment with his playing days. I believe his father was the limo driver for Dan Marino. Like, this guy was born into football,

if I'm not mistaken. And I don't know that he has had a singular thought outside of football. Oh, come on. What are you doing there? I'm he's about football. It be into any time I've ever. I don't know that Dan Morgan would take the insult in that Dan Morgan. I believe thinks only about football. Do you think Dan Campbell changed things for guys like that? Where it's like, wait a minute, I could be a football guy.

Was Dan Campbell the Jackie Robinson of Meatheads getting jobs in front of opposite? Put it on the poll, please, at LeBatard Show. Was Dan Campbell the Jackie Robinson of Meatheads getting good jobs in football? This is mean. Wait a minute. Okay, wait a minute.

Dan Morgan, I have not said, let me walk some of this back because you will never hear me say an athlete of any kind is dumb because What is required of these people is a genius at what they do and an obsessive compulsiveness in a competitive field Much more competitive than any that people are listening to right now work in, and to get to the top of it, sometimes you have to be so compulsive that everything else that you think about gets atrophied. And so I do like- To play that position, middle linebacker, you have to be either super instinctual or

brilliant or a combination of both. He's a college footballer, a famous for a reason. He was not that physically gifted. He was all intensity and he got to the top of the sport and got concussed more than anybody, including Keekley, more concussed than anybody. Why am I laughing? And he cares deeply.

And so I'm just telling you that I don't know whether he's good as an architect or a manager of people. That's a hard job he just got. I know he's good at caring about football and you're not going to out-care him at that sport. Nobody is. And we know that's a good fundamental principle to start things off with, needing more dogs. Not cats. No! Do I look good? good fundamental principle to start things off with needing more dogs.