The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Dean of Dap (feat. Jacob Jeffries)

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

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I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere,

fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. So, a little bit later, we're gonna be talking to Jacob Jeffries. Who is he? He is a singer-songwriter who has provided songs for one of my favorite TV shows, Teen Titans Go. Oh yeah!

Yeah, so I'm a real big fan of that show. I'm a real big fan of the music that they do on that show. I think it's really well done. And it turns out, Jeremy knows a dude that's contributed to this grand history of great music on this show. Not only does he know him, but before the show I heard Jeremy say, and I quote, he taught me everything I know about music. Really?

Yeah, he, I was, Billy's so excited about that. I should be on the Blankford. I've been on the Blankford watch list. Jeez Louise. I mean, that's super Disarming, but I Went to a You'll love this Billy. I went to a

Camp is a summer camp as a kid called Broward arts camp, and I went there to go be a theater kid But they had like a rock and roll section and Bad basically it was for all the kids who played instruments and they didn't really have a ton of singers and Jacob Jeffries and the guys who were in his band were the teachers of each instrument. He was the vocal teacher and the keyboard teacher

and because I like to play sports, we would during lunch all play basketball together and I started doing the rock band stuff and then he became my keyboard teacher and taught me everything about songwriting. So he rocks. Yeah, okay, all right, I'll stop. So yeah, he'll be joining us, oh.

Cool. Call it 15 minutes from now. Big Panther fan. Well, there you go. Huge Panther fan. He's from down here. There it is. I should hope so.

Thank you. There it is. Ace Bailey Bailey Zazz Yeah falls to Utah Famously hadn't worked out for any of the teams and we'll try to kind of maneuver his way Some people say Washington some people say New Orleans But he ends up in Utah. They ask him. How does it feel to be in Utah? He says I hear that it's it gets really hot and it gets really cold Wow

So it's like every other place in the world except for Florida I mean ace Bailey's the villain of the draft right like there's no one that was watching the draft two nights ago and Didn't come away with wow I don't like that kid you like he was drafted into the NBA number five overall He looked like he just got got sent off to Afghanistan. You know, like, I mean, he was... Well, I mean, Utah's not that far. Hey, you got great skiing there, come on.

Guess what? Afghanistan, it gets really hot and it gets really cold. That's right, it's like that everywhere. A lot of dirty cars there, a lot of dirty cars. In Utah or in Afghanistan? Oh, Utah! Oh, that's right, I remember! Yeah, I wanna...

Zaz, you'll love this. We went to Salt Lake for All-star weekend and Chris makes the Observation it's a lot of dirty cars here Oh the crawls are filthy and so he says when this opened up a car wash business here Oh, you guys want in? 20 my way I mean as long as you do all the work Gotta wash a car like Like, no one appreciated Ace Bailey's behavior at the draft, right?

Like, leading up to it. I figured he must have a guarantee from somebody. That's why, and he likes that spot, so I'm not working out for anyone anymore. But Utah is just like, no, F it. We think you're really good, and we want you to play for us. And you'll see, we're a good organization.

You'll like it here. We're gonna prove it to you. Got the exact quote for you here, I know it's cold and it's hot. It get cold and it get hot here. Gotta find me a place with a good heater. I fit in good because we're all young and so we all got to learn,

wanna earn, gotta learn, right? We can play with each other, get to know each other, how we play, how we fit in, what works, and then also, I don't know a lot about Utah, but I'm learning as we go. But now this is a story, right? Because they're not 100% sure he's gonna be showing up to the press conference.

We know the press conference is gonna have Walter Clayton Jr., all right? Who, I mean, he's crying when he's selected. He loves going to Utah. And they're not so sure that Ace Bailey's gonna show up because apparently, I mean, the agent, and we can get to him in a second, but the agent, we don't know which team,

but the agent did tell one of the teams that were in like the top five, I mean, it could be Philadelphia, or it could have been Charlotte, or it could have been Utah. He told one of those teams, do not draft my client, he will not show. Was it Utah? We don't know.

It doesn't sound like it's Utah if he's talking about going to Utah. I mean, I'm not saying he wanted to go to Utah, but I also don't think he told Utah, don't draft me. If he told the one team, it doesn't sound like it was Utah. This is also from his interview after he said, I definitely want to win rookie of the year, and I definitely want to be an all-star my rookie year.

An all-star, all right. He's a confident young man. Now, I want to go back to something you talked about. Walter Clayton Jr. sobbing. His lifelong dream has been achieved. Love it. Is that how you feel about people crying at the draft? Well, OK, so that's, it's, everyone's crying at the draft.

And by the way, like I'll preface it, I like it. I like the emotion. I like when the kids are overwhelmed. I like when the mom is crying. Heck, last night you had a kid drafted in the second round. His grandpa was crying. Grandpa was so happy. Second round pick, grandpa was crying, I love it.

I love the emotion. So many of the kids were super well spoken with Monica McNutt. Like I'm just so happy and I love that. But I'm wondering, it wasn't always like this. Why is everyone crying now? It wasn't like that in the past. What's changed that we're all crying? We, we, and I like it. Is it the pandemic? Yeah, well. We're all more emotional now? Well, no, I think it is, we have normalized and made it okay to cry, right?

Like it used to be when I was growing up, laugh in the world laughs with you, cry. And I gave you something to cry about you little son of a. That's one of the great quotes from a great white hype. So, but yeah, like you don't cry, there's no crying in baseball. You don't cry, basically. You hold it in, you bottle it in.

And over the last maybe six or seven years. Mental health. Mental health is big and we're telling people. Everyone is crying. So not the pandemic. It's okay, well I mean I'm sure the pandemic, hell. Thank you. Are we just like moving forward when we don't,

ah COVID. It's a great. Crying, I don't know, COVID. It's a great. I we just like moving forward when we don't have COVID? It's a crime, I don't know, COVID. It's a great- I think COVID, I guess. What happened to Victoria's Secret? COVID. COVID, I guess, I don't know. COVID.

It's a great thing, because then no one can ever argue with you. It is great for like lacking accountability on all fronts on anything. Oh, like your performance, COVID. Haven't been the same. Yeah, COVID. You didn't wish me a happy birthday, COVID.

I forgot to take out the trash at home. I was gonna tell my wife, COVID. COVID. It's a great excuse, it's a catch-all. We're all recovering still, it's a long pandemic. Grab some pots and pans. Different world now. We're going to go at six o'clock.

But why are we all crying? Crying because we told people, COVID. At COVID we told people it's okay to cry. It's okay to cry, it's okay to show emotion. Are we insinuating this is a bad thing? I actually think- No, he said it's a good thing. Like, I know we're joking, I love it. It's mental health, you hit it. That's the to cry. It's okay. Are we insinuating? This is a bad thing. I actually think like I know we're joking I've hunt it's mental health that you hit it. That's the real reason people are more in touch with their feelings

That's why we're crying more. I I don't think that's it. You think there's another reason well I'm trying to figure out what the reason is I almost wonder though There's so much money in the NBA now it used to be you know if you were if you were selected You're a rookie you're not making a ton of money. Your work is still there to be done. You still have work to do. Could it be attention seeking? To be social media nowadays?

No, no, no, you can't fake that. Yeah, but not even faking it, but more that we're all used to, and not just obviously the people in this room where we're literally on camera right now, but people are used to performing for the camera in their lives, and so having extreme reactions to things as part of what we do, especially the younger generation. You're reading Judge Zazz right now,

you're just like, that's not it. Yeah, I don't think that's what's happening. What do you think? So COVID it is. I think there's so much money that it really, like VJ Edgecombe, for instance, right? He went number three to Philadelphia, which by the way, if you don't know,

he and his family are from Bimini, which is crazy, all right? It's a beautiful little island in the Bahamas, and it's so small. You know what the population in Bimini is? Like whoever's there for vacation right now. It's 2,400 people. That's how many people live in Bimini.

And this VJ Edgecombe and his family are from Bimini. It's amazing, all right? I love that story so much. But VJ Edgecombe was talking afterward how they had no electricity. They lived off of a radiator for seven years. So that's probably why he's crying. But, well, the mother, the mother couldn't even talk.

The mother was so emotional. And it's like, so they're drafted right away. And it's not like 20 years ago or okay you still got a little work to do all right before we actually get paid no VJ Edgecombe just got paid and now it's like we did it we did it can I offer you a counterpoint I think that has a lot I think VJ Edgecombe represents a stark minority in a time 20 years ago he would have been the norm. So 20-25 years ago guys are getting drafted and for a lot of these guys, man I had to come out of

some really dire situation to get to this point now my family's taken care of. The NBA now and the NBA draft is populated more than ever by upper middle-class kids because of just the way this sport has evolved, right? Especially domestically. Internationally, you still get guys who got plucked out of somewhere and got into a program and were discovered that way. But domestically, a lot of these guys, because AU and coaches and trainers and travel.

You have to have money to afford the training, yeah. It's a reason why back in the day they were like, oh, tennis is such a high-buyer to entry because it was so expensive. I think hockey's like that. You gotta have a lot of money to be able to play hockey. They all are. And so you think to yourself, like, don't look now,

but there may not be any kind of broke kids playing. What was that? Well, I was talking about. What the hell is this? It's time for a new game. Don't Look Now. It's presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly.

I'm really thrown off by this eye mask. Guys, don't look now. But Taylor Swift made an appearance at Tight End U, T-E-U in Nashville. She got on stage. Real place. All the tight ends in the NFL and their wives and girlfriends so excited. She performed with Kane Brown on stage.

She sank, shake it off. What a time, what a time to be alive. Chris, you look like Shea Gilles is Alexander on Good Morning America right now. Thank you, man. But don't, are you looking at me? Well, yeah. You're not supposed to look.

I'm not, okay. Don't look now. The Bucks have extended Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles, the coach? Yeah. It took me a while. He has a funny voice. I was thinking about the Milwaukee Bucs.

I thought Milwaukee Bucs, too. Yeah, me too. I was like, who's Todd Bowles? Did I say the Bucs? Oh, I guess they are the Bucs. My bad. Buccaneers. Back to you guys.

That's it? That's all you got? So we can look? We can look now. Yeah. We can look now. How much does it cost to pierce a pirate's ears? Buccaneer. Yeah. I did that one. So it's all middle class.

The demographic is shifting. Well that would go against my theory. Except also that's the demographic that's more in touch with their feelings and more likely to be it's Okay to cry right like if you come from some some stark background They tell you hey, man, that's a sign of weakness. You can't you can't show those emotions You can't trust people with those emotions, but if you're coming up like little Johnny You know hey, it's okay. It's okay, buddy. You can cry. Yeah, just look at me I mean come on I come from an upper middle-class background, and I'm crying all the time

You'd be blubbering if you got drafted. You'd give me that Generationally like life-changing money cuz it's like if you have if there's one thing you'd have been like a brother money You'd be like the brother who yes, I mean it's another thing to have that type of money. Dude I wish I wish I got now. Here's the funny thing if I got drafted. I'd be cool as shit That kid was blubbering. Oh, that's it. That's the funny thing. If I got drafted, I'd be cool as shit. That kid was blubbering. All right, that's it, that's Danny Wolf's brother. I like it though, again, I like it.

So much bone structure definition in those eyes. Oh my gosh, that slant, those brows, how do you make your brows go like that? I feel so bad for him, man. It looks like his eyes are like, we all rushed him. Seven inches inside his skull. Like from where his bone is at the top of his eyebrows

to where his eyeballs are, it's like. Throw up on the screen. It's also his face got so red so quick. Yes. It's like he'd be crying for hours. Just pause it, pause it right here. Pause it right here. Look at that face, man.

Now, if we hit play on this, I think he moused the F word. Does he? Is there such thing as a happy effort? See? Look! No, maybe because he's looking at himself on the screen. But that proves the point that the Toronto guy maybe was a happy fu.

He looks like Judge Reinhold, right? Yes, he does, a little bit. A little bit. Maybe he does look up and sees himself. Yeah. So he's like, oh. I think you guys are right. That's what I think happened.

He sees himself. And that's how he tries to compose himself after that. If we saw a picture just randomly, you showed someone that, you showed someone the still frame, he's crying, he's really upset, and you show that to someone, and you said, what happened to this person? Like, you would never say

that his brother just got drafted in the NBA. Yeah, I'd have a lot of answers. Brother just got a job. Yeah, my brother got a job. It worked out. So that's what I was gonna say. If I got drafted, definitely wouldn't cry. I'd be cool as hell.

If my brother got drafted, I think I'd be happy and joyous. I don't think I'd cry. Not to bring it back to Jeremy again, but him and his brother would cry for each other until they left. Dude, a thousand percent. If my child got drafted, I think if it's your child or your grandchild, I think you're allowed to just sob.

Am I the only one who thought it was weird behavior from Dylan Harper and his father Ron Harper after he was drafted the other night? What was weird about it? Like, Dylan walked right... He hugged his agent, who was standing right next to his father Ron Harper. He didn't even say anything or dap him up or nothing.

And then when they were doing the interview, it was just the Harper brothers and the mother. Now I understand that they must not be together, the parents, but okay, whatever. Ron is just sitting down. He didn't even like say hello or congratulations or shake his son's hand. I'm the only one who noticed that?

I didn't notice it. I didn't, I mean, I guess now in retrospect, I think about it, but like, I don't, you know. The agent was right next to Ron. He hugged the agent, he kept walking. Okay, so okay, let me. You get back to expressing emotions, maybe in that family they don't,

maybe they're not a hugging family. Maybe it happened when it was off camera. Yeah, there you go, or maybe he doesn't mess with his dad like that. Which it wouldn't be the first time NBA player with NBA dad and the relationships are strained a little bit. It's like at Bron and LeBron.

They would hug. They would dap each other. One of those secret handshakes. Which by the way, there is no bigger waste of LeBron's superpower. LeBron, we all know his superpowers. He has like a photographic memory. And learning all the handshakes he has to learn.

Learning, like that's the biggest waste of that thing. But it could be probably solving, curing cancer. It's probably one of the most wasteful things you could do with that power. Yeah. Hey, I can remember everything from any time. So you have him passing up on a chance to be on like a board of some cancer medicine development.

And he's like, guys, I gotta spend my time memorizing. I have a handshake appointment today. I'm the Dean of DAP, I can't write it. How bad do you feel if you're LeBron's teammate, and then he messes up the DAP? Do you just go along with it? Or you're the one teammate that doesn't have a DAP? No, let's say, let's say. So you get there, are you wondering,

when is LeBron gonna approach me to come up with a DAP? Because I can't bring it up to him. When's he gonna come to me? Let's assume, because LeBron is the ultimate politician, he comes up and it's like, hey guy, let's do this DAP. And you're like, oh my god, you go home, mom, dad, met LeBron today, he made up a DAP, I'm gonna practice it right now in my mirror, over and over and over again. And then you see him the next day and you're like, what's up LeBron? And you get ready to do the DAP and you know the DAP forwards and backwards.

Like you think they do the DAP in practice and there's no cameras? I think, absolutely, like the first time. I think they have a DAP practice. I don't know. There's a lot of time. Like from one to two today, it's DAP practice. LeBron doesn't have time to DAP practice. He comes up with the DAP, and then that's on you to practice it.

So the kid practices it, and then the next day he comes and sees LeBron, he's all excited, and you go in for the DAP, and LeBron, in a rare moment of weakness, messes up the dap. If you're the kid, do you correct him, or do you just adjust on the fly? Because this is now the new dap.

Now you just learn a new dap. What if, because I assume LeBron creates all the daps, so it's like, this will be ours, what if you don't like the dap? You've got a lot of balls to tell LeBron what kind of dap you want. What if you don't like the dap he created? Well, and it's also complicated.

I have to live with this dap, I can't give him notes of like, what if instead we do the elbow hit instead of the, everyone does the arms locking, let's touch, let's gingerly touch our elbow tips. Kevin Love had the handshake, do you guys remember that one? Everyone had this, and then it was just like a white man's handshake.

Sure, like, I like that. I think it's because Kevin Love couldn't remember the DAP. Maybe. He's like, can we keep this simple for me? He's like, I got it actually. Or maybe Kevin Love was like, hey, okay, so I'm thinking we could do this. And he says, no, no, no, no, you just get a handshake

cause you don't fit in. Right, fit in, don't fit out. Don't fit out. I think what makes this complicated is like, if you're going to practice this handshake, right? We're saying LeBron comes up with it and then everyone goes and practices on their own to eventually come back to him.

Well, the coordination or the choreography of what goes into these, it's really oriented by the height of the person you're doing it with. So if you're not going up against a six foot eight person to be able to do this, it's not gonna work out. So do you think that there's a chance that LeBron maybe hires a bunch of six, eight doubles

that throughout the beginning of the year at training camp that basically he brings a bunch of six, eight doubles that throughout the beginning of the year, at training camp, that basically he brings a bunch of LeBron James stunt doubles to training camp wherever they're having it so that they can specifically in their off time practice these daps with each player on the team respectively. This is exactly like the rehearsal where they had like five different replicas of this apartment

and the pilot and the girl that he's trying to make a move on, and it's Captain, what's the, Captain Fears or whatever, and the Jennifer Kiss Me. No? No? Captain Fears, I think, is what the name was. Captain Powers, Captain Powers.

Right, and then, and well, and that only leading, of course, to, you know, Lieutenant and Captains that were supposed to be blunt toward each other. I like the idea of hiring people to stand in for me to prepare everyone else. To be around me. What life around me is like. I think I actually need that.

I need that. I find that a lot of people are jarred by what my life is. My home family, sometimes they're like, what, what do you mean you're getting on another plane? What do you mean? I need like a stand in to just kind of prep them. Right, not to live your life for when you're not there. No, no, no, no, that's the multiplicity rule.

By the way, absolutely, if they're away, I could clone myself. Oh my God. Five of me. Lousy movie though. I would never. Barry Jack. Lousy movie though. I would never. Barry Jackson. Lousy movie.

I liked it. I'd have five Amines. Five Amines, we'd run full court. Five Amines, but I would have done this when I was 30. Do you think there'd be an Amine that you like better than the other Amine? Yeah, this one right here. No, no, but the guys you're playing with.

If there was a clone Amine better than you, would you like that? Because that clone Amine is making you look good Or would you be jealous that clone of mean is getting more love than you? This is I think this happened in multiplicity as well, right? Yeah, every clone got dumber and dumber and dumber and dumber So would you take out a clone of yourself that you view as a threat to you a threat to me only if you know Why and is the threat to you someone that's a worse portrayal of you or someone that's better than you? The

only reason to take out a clone is if that clone hits on your wife. No not even not even. If that clone. Isn't that what happened in Multiplicity? Yes. It's a great movie. I don't know why you're shitting on it. It's a great movie. No, if that clone was so smart and also so evil, he was gonna take me out first. That's when you gotta take him out. Well, if you're thinking about taking him out, he must be thinking about taking you out. And that's the problem. And that's why you can't clone a meme. If you take out your own clone, is that a crime? No.

Really? I would say yes. You can murder clones yourself. Mickey 17? Anyone watch the movie Mickey 17? Should I watch that? I'm interested. Should I watch that? Entertaining. It's entertaining. It's not the best movie ever, but it'm interested. Shall I watch that entertaining? It's entertaining Yeah, it's not the best movie ever, but it's entertaining. Oh, well, I was looking for the best movie. The voices are great All right. Well, let's go to the guest line. We got the guest line. Yeah, I do a radio over here go to subway

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It says, Chris Whittingham sucks ass. This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugats. Jacob Defries. Jacob Defries joined us. Welcome to the show, Jacob. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go, Travis. By Robin's singing voice in the Teen Titans Go To The Movies movie. What's up, you guys? And wrote a couple of songs. Jacob, thanks for joining us. Full disclosure, I'm the one who requested that you be here.

Jeremy mentioned that you are, that your involvement with Teen Titans Go, and I love that show so much, and specifically I love the music. I think the music is very funny, and at the same time really good. They don't mail it in. I don't know how to explain this so people don't watch the show,

but a lot of times when you're watching, especially any kind of serial TV show, the songs are just kinda haphazardly slapped together just to get to the point that they're trying to make. And it seems like Teen Titans Go, there's a lot of emphasis on making good music, like songs you actually would want to listen to outside the context of the show.

How did you get involved with Teen Titans Go? Yeah, well, I gotta give props first and foremost to my buddy Jared Faber, who he's kind of the music creator and he kind of oversees the show itself that you're speaking about. He and I, he's actually a South Florida, he's got some South Florida ties. And yeah, he lives out here in LA where I am right now.

I'm just waking up, sorry. So thanks for bearing with my, I'm talking slow over here. You got it. You're better than Schenkel just Alexander right now. Another Jeremy. That's right. But no, Jared, he's a good friend of mine.

We've been writing songs for TV shows together for a while. I didn't really have a lot to do with the TV show itself. But when the movie came along and the offer for the feature film happened back in 2018, Jared called me in to come help write some songs. And I'll just jump to the story, which is we started writing tunes for the movie. And the demo ended up being liked more by the guys in suits if you know what I mean. And then they actually liked my singing voice more than the guy who's been doing Robin for over a decade. So it was just

a wild circumstance and then I ended up being the singing voice of Robin. So, but I did write two other tunes, one of which Michael Bolton sings in the movie, which was an honor. So it's pretty funny. Where on your resume do you put teaching Jeremy everything he knows about music? Yeah.

Um, that is a little bit further down than the teen, teen titans. I get it. Yeah. No, I get it. Yeah. No, I get it. All it led to was parody songs here. So it couldn't have been that great.

Did you know anything about Teen Titans when you were tasked with writing for the movie? And if you didn't, like, do you go back and watch episodes? You get a feel for it? How do you do that? That's a really good question. Honestly, not so much. I didn't know much about Teen Titans. I knew my friend Jared was very involved with it and his friend Michael, or sorry, Peter, his last name is Michael, I think. Peter was the creator of it and an old friend of Jared's. So I just knew these guys, but I didn't really know much about the show.

But that's kind of my favorite place to be is not really knowing what's going on and then someone giving me a brief like and then I can kind of I can kind of like just spitball a bunch of ideas and then they can help shape it with me you know I love collaborating like that. Were there any ideas that they were like okay that's not really the kind of show we have here you're missing the point here? Probably I don't really remember I have like I'm pretty I'm not gun shy when it comes to like just kind of throwing stuff at the wall. But I'm is that how Jeremy acts? Yes, that's how in the studio, especially with music. That's exactly right. You can't really have much shame at the end of the day. It's all everyone you know everyone dies I mean sorry, but um what but what gets it yeah?

No, you just got to throw stuff out there, and then not be embarrassed, but um I was gonna say that uh The I like whoever said what no But uh Yeah, I think part of what was funny about that process was a lot of the guys, because it's such a big motion, it's a big operation. A lot of people have trickled down ideas. And then what I thought was really funny was there were a lot of ideas coming through for the Teen Titans Go movie that were from the heads of animation department, and they weren't

really songwriters, but they were submitting lyrics to us, and we were like, what? None of these have any rhythm or flow to it. It was all just dudes that have never written lyrics before, just like, this is a good idea, right? And then they'll send it in, and we're like, no. There's a lot of that.

All too familiar, Jacob, with suits trying to tell us how to do our job, man. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Not fun. Hey, quick question for you. Yeah, you're a Panthers fan. Big Panthers fan. I had to wear the hat. What a team. What a team. How did you celebrate the dude?

Finally, we have a we have a team. I've been a Panthers fan for, I mean, since their inception. I how did I celebrate this year? I was actually at Game Six, I had to celebrate this year. I was actually at Game six. I flew in. Yes. And I was sitting right there behind. Well, unfortunately, I was on the other end of the ice. They were celebrating on the other end.

I was on the shoot twice side. Oh, one twenty eight. That's where I say, where were you at? I was right above you. I was I was like CL. I don't know. Oh, yeah, I think I saw you. I was like C.L. I don't know. Oh, club well, yeah, I think I saw you. I think I saw you. What'd they pay for these parody songs?

Team Titans go money, what's happening? You come out of pocket or did you have a hookup? No, come on man, it was a hookup, dude. Yeah, it's a good connect. I did come out of pocket for the last minute flight, which I rarely do, but I had to do it for the cats. And yeah, this was it was just I was amazing. I cried last year.

This year I was a little more just hyped and adrenaline. I had so much adrenaline because I was there. But what a turnaround from when I was a kid watching this team. And I read an amazing tweet or Instagram post or something that said I just paid seventy six dollars for parking during a Stanley Cup series game. I used to pay seventy six dollars to get me, my wife and two kids into the whole game. Eat, drink all that jazz. And it's just we've come a long way.

I mean, Zito and yeah, it's what a team, man. All right. So you cried last year when they won. Why do people cry in so much these days? In general or over sports general general just in general. Oh man. That's a good question. Um It's a lot of there's a lot of stimuli out there, you know, I don't know people are feeling overwhelmed Our theory is COVID over here. Oh yeah. You feel like you could just blame COVID for anything?

Yeah, you probably could. It was COVID, COVID's back apparently with razor blade ferocity and vengeance apparently. Yeah, I saw razor blade, the strain is called razor blade to where it is the nice name. The sore throat is supposed to feel like razor blades in your throat All right. Let me just say this about covid number one

It's like a bad like 90s movie series where we just keep getting sequels, but number two The titles are always awesome. Remember omicron? Yeah, and now you got one called razor blade Do all the other diseases feel like damn man, like these guys are killing all the flu is just like I'm the flu again Gouts over here like what the hell got so I'm got one We don't even have one but like meanwhile these guys are coming out like with sequel after sequel razor blade Yeah, cool ass good a cool ass. These are these These are like Power Ranger enemies, nemesis. Omicron.

Yeah. His name is Jacob Jeffries. You can go to JacobJeffries.com this week to pre-order his new album, You Got the Right Idea on vinyl, which comes out in September. The third single from the upcoming album, Worry, dropped earlier this week,

wherever you stream music. Jacob, thanks so much for joining us. Oh, before we let you go, should Pat Riley step down? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, dude. I'm just saying this is, I'm doing show topics with you here. Yeah, man.

He said yeah, man, put it on the scroll. What'd you say? Jeremy said yes earlier this week. No, I didn't. If you wanna. Nope. I, man, if it was Panthers talk, I'd be all in but um I think Maybe okay wait. I don't know where anybody stands

I don't know what I'm about to say like how I'm about to rock the boat here, but I Will say that maybe there is a time and place to change the guard what? I don't endorse this guy out Get this guy out of here. Jacob said it. Jacob is no longer my friend. Put on those shoes. But I don't know if now's the time, man. Oh, there you go.

That's kick, save, and a beaut. Attaboy. Go get his album. Check out Worry, wherever you stream your music. JacobJeffreys.com. Jacob, thanks a lot. All right. Thank you guys so much.

That was Jacob Jeffreys. Are you guys happy I didn't make a sit down you're rocking the boat from guys and dolls reference? Yes. He said they're rocking the boat. We wouldn't get it. Jacob did. Yeah. I wanted to ask him whether the Matthew Kachuck deal

was a mistake on behalf of Chris Whittingham. I mean he's still there if you really want to ask, but no let's not do that. He's still in the zone, he's shaking his head no. Obviously, very obviously was not a mistake. Well, we got a guy, he's actually a pretty big time broadcaster now, his name is Chris Whittingham, and he said at the time the deal was a mistake,

and then they won the Stanley Cup last year, and he said it's still a mistake, and then they won it again this year, and he still thinks it's a mistake. He's a loser. What the heck? He just doesn't know how to not be stubborn, and he's constantly doubling and tripling down

on every single take he has. It's just who he is. He also said Giannis was a number two in basketball and I think still believes it. It might be, he might be, is there, if I give you Chris Whittingham, is there anyone else who is a bigger doubler down than him? Anybody, in sports or outside of sports?

Mike Ryan. I think he's got Mike Ryan. Mike's transitioned to hand up my bad guy. Nobody likes apologizing more than him. He doesn't do it a lot, but he does it. That's the point. Whereas Witty doubles and triples and quadruples down, even as the evidence mounts.

No, it has to be Witty ahead of Mike Ryan, because Mike Ryan's got the whole thing with Brad Marchand, but Mike Ryan still wants the Panthers to win Chris winning him is completely jump ship And he hates the Panthers now, which is a vomit obviously well By the way has that ever happened in the history of mankind guy roots for team? Guy abandons team team becomes champion, and he's like, nope, I'm not coming back. I've tweeted that it's the worst sports decision in human history.

And the team was garbage for a decade. I'm willing to go take the sports out of that. It is the worst decision in history. Just give me a worst decision in all of history than getting rid of your fandom with the Panthers the moment they traded for Matthew Kachuk, which is consensus, a top trade of like the last two decades in sports. This is like a Tyler Hero view on history.

If you think the worst decision in history involves the Florida Panthers. Name something. Go ahead. The worst decision in history? Yes. Holocaust is pretty bad. All right, second worst.

No, Holocaust is worst. Name two, name two. The election. worst. Holocaust is worst. Name two. Name two. The election. Okay. All right, you guys. No, I think Witty. Witty was worse.

Witty's decision is worse. Put that on the crawl. And that's coming from down the middle, Chris. What was worse for the world? Put it on the list. The election? Or Witty? Yes.

Juju, put it on the poll. Don't say the other one. What's worse for the world? What's a worse decision in human history? The election or Whitty abandoning the Panthers right before they won back to back Stanley Cup? What was the third one? Don't say it.

We don't have a third one. We don't need a third one. I didn't hear it because Fuentes is talking in my ear. It was definitely worse than the Panthers. Really? It was the Holocaust. Oh. Now we have four minutes to kill.

Shit. Thank you. Hey, side view mirrors, what's up with that? Finally, we get to this topic, okay? Nowadays, all these new fancy cars, you lock the car, what happens to the side view mirrors? They fold in. They fold in.

Basically telling every thief in the world if your car is unlocked. If I forget and leave my car unlocked What are my mirrors they're out if I'm like a guy at a mall and I want to rob some cars I'm just walking around if I see the mirrors out. I'm like that's that's a chance And it's just I don't like the advanced mirrors. I don't like I don't like it's just I get it It's for I guess it's for tight parking spaces to make yeah And you're so people aren't smashing your shit on the way in. Are your mirrors getting, like, I know it happens. I've never had a side view mirror, like, destroyed.

I've had a side view mirror destroyed. And I might, every once in a while, forget to lock my car. Like, I'm not the best with that. Every once in a while, I walk back to my car and I let it unlock. Do you not do the thing, I have the thing where, I don't know, like, it's a Honda Pilot, so it's not exactly like the greatest car ever,

but when I walk away from my car, as long as the key fob is in my pocket. It automatically locks? It automatically locks. Yeah, mine too. Oh, wow. I don't have that. It makes a little chirp.

I wish I had that. I'm confused by what my car does when it comes to locking and unlocking, when I have the key, when the key is too close, or it's too, like I don't know what's going on. I hate when it's like. You used to just have a key, you open or lock, now I don't know what's happening. I won't lie his ass, I don't know what's going on. I hate when it's like... You used to just have a key, you open or lock. Now I don't know what's happening.

I won't lie to you, I do get annoyed when I walk up to my car and it's like, and you are? I'm like, it's me. I have the key in my pocket. My car's like, I don't know who you are, buddy. Every once in a while, the key fob won't work. And then I have to like, you mean this thing? And the car looks, oh, I mean, of course it's you.

And then open, I'm like, what are we doing? I do this every day. And my wife seems to think there's like a button on the handlebar where I don't even need to touch anything on the key. And it's like, I can't get that to work. I don't know what's happening. It only works when you're not expecting it.

You walk up and grab your door, it's like, you hear all the doors unlock. You're like, what? Just random. I just feel like the risk, I don't want someone to be easily to be walking through a garage and be like, that's clearly locked,

cause I just feel like it's just a little giveaway. But they're not all like that. That's the thing. Maybe not. My car doesn't do that. The windows don't come out. And maybe there's a setting that I could turn it off. I'd love that.

But then they would always assume that your car's unlocked. Wait, you don't want people to know your car is locked? I don't want them to know when it is unlocked. No, he's saying when the mirrors are out, that that's a sign that your car is unlocked. Wait, you don't want people to know your car is locked? I don't want them to know when it is unlocked. No, he's saying when the mirrors are out that that's a sign that his car is unlocked. So like, I think now, in this, the space we're living in right now,

there's still plenty of cars out there, but like think about 10 years from now. Every car is gonna have that. So I just feel like it's a, you're walking through a garage, I can see, okay, that car could be open, that car could be open. Can I provide a solution for you?

Fold in your mirrors at all times drive with the mirrors folded and then no one will ever know that it's unlocked All right, we're spitballing. No bad ideas. I'm just saying like hey, you know back in the day They didn't they didn't have mirrors They had to turn around and look like that and turn around look like this in the Ford Model T There were no mirrors on that thing as someone who you're over for model T Well, you drove back when the manual windows Oh my god the roll up you had to turn around I don't over in Oklahoma that had the roll up window really now I'd get out roll ups are coming back

But if you if you now as someone who has driven the old way If you if you had to drive a car now where you don't have the cameras You don't have the auto like would you be able to drive that car? I'd be able, I'd be cursing out the car at the hole every single step of the way. I think it'd be hard. There was a point where I still had my old car that didn't have the rear view camera.

Man, backing up just to park in a spot, like ugh. Turn in your head. You gotta put the arm on the car, you know, the seat so you can turn around. That's hard. That was also a good way to do the move though. Oh yeah. Oh, I'm just trying to park the car honey.

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