The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Dirty Demon of Debate Returns (feat. David Samson)

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

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Nothing personal with David Sampson. You get that every single morning, wherever you get podcasts. David, welcome to the show. And I guess we've got to start with a topic that's been burning on Greg Cody's mind, which is the collapse of the Miami Marlins. Can you call it a collapse? Well, it's kind of like. The slow death march, is that better?

It was pretty predictable, wasn't it? When they got hot, they sweep the Yankees at home. They were a little over 500. People are looking at the wild card standing. And Jeremy started covering their games. And it's like, you know, they're going to lose eight of nine, right? And then it's happening. Sorry.

Do you know the worst thing that happened to the Marlins was all the winning they did right before the deadline? Why? And I don't want to yuck on the yumb because it was super exciting. And I was at one of the Yankee games. I loved seeing Marlins Park sold out. and all the people there. But what it did is it made the owner Bruce Sherman and it made the GM, President of Baseball Ops, Peter Bendex,

sort of rethink what they were going to do at the deadline. And so they ended up not trading some of the players they should have traded because they had this thought that, wow, we're actually this team, not the team that we thought we'd be in real life, which is a team that wasn't going to compete for a playoff spot. Maybe we were wrong. Maybe all the analytics were wrong

and that we can catch the NL wildcard leaders, except that wasn't realistic. And so what do you do? If you make the trades and you trade Sandy and you trade Cabrera, all of a sudden, the fans say, oh, it's the same old, same old. And Greg Cody, you would be on this show right now

if the Marlins had sold at the deadline and then lost a bunch of games, you would be MFing them saying same old, cheap ass, hate the owner, but they didn't do it. and now they're losing, and now you're despondent also. Which means, Greg, you're just always despondent. No, there's a couple of things at play here. First of all, Cabrera had genuine trade value,

and it depends on what they could have gotten for him, whether or not I would have liked the trade. The equation is also that Sandy, his trade value, went way down this season. I mean, his ERA was over eight for much of the season. I don't think they would have gotten all that much for him. So they were sort of, do you disagree, David? they were sort of put in backed into a corner in terms of trading Sandy.

They just couldn't get what they thought he was worth. True? So it's funny. People, players are worth exactly what you can get and what your job is to have better baseball people. And if you want to be the raise, which is what Bruce Sherman has said, I want to be the raise. So to be the raise, you have to identify players that other teams don't realize are going to be good, but you know they're going to be good once you have them. Then any trade you can win.

The raise win every trade. with players you've never heard of because they have a baseball department that identifies value and projects greatness in a way that other teams just aren't good at. I was terrible at that, but it doesn't matter. So they got Peter Bendix from the raise

because of that. And so who was behind not being active on the trade deadline? Was it the owner or was it Bendix, do you imagine? Oh, I imagine it was just the owner. I imagine the owner said, I don't want to take any heat. I don't want to do a quote-unquote fire sale.

I want to take advantage of the possibility of winning games and being a playoff team and being, it turns out what this Marlins team is like. They're a lot like the 06 Marlins. With a bunch of young players, fun to watch, interesting, going to win games and then going to end up, I don't know, 79 and 83 at best, that's not terrible. You can even win manager of the year that way, but it certainly doesn't give you playoff revenue. But I mean, in defense of the Marlins, they did identify players at other people.

didn't value and Kyle Stowers and Marcy, Augustine Ramirez and they just had a price set on people like Sandy, on Edward Cabrera, who are still under team control for years to come so they decided, you know what, we're not going to get what we want for them.

We can revisit this in the off season. We can revisit this next year. We don't have to sell them now. They're still under team control. They're not free agents that are just going to leave and it's now or never. So the thing about pitchers, now with hitters I agree with you, during season deals with hitters it's rare to really get a huge deal now you've got the

sodos in theory in theory what happened with suarez going to seattle but it's bullpen arms and it is starting pitchers where their value is greater right at the deadline where you can extract something and i really would prefer you not to keep mentioning stowers as and jeremy will back me up on this stowers was a throw in the norby stowers trade just like an extra guy to make it a two for one for Trevor Rogers. David, that's the point. David, that's the point that they saw something in Stowers that the Orioles did. And you just said that's what their job is to do. What they thought is they were getting the value of Norby. And now Stowers, you are going

to get players who outperform what your expectation was to the positive. The key is to get the principles back in a trade who other teams are willing to make as principles who you value is greater. So while Sandy may have an ERA of six, there were teams out there that would have traded for sandy the question is could they identify players who they felt would add value at a smaller number because you're right sandy's under control and i don't have it in front of me but i want to say he's 17 million a year for the next two years but you also have stanton at 10 million a year for the next two years people forget about that but that's a huge part of the marlins payroll here going forward and that's a player not playing for you therefore what you want to do is have a

a pitcher not making $17 million a year. You want to have guys that are all pre-arbitration eligible, maybe in their first year of arbitration. You want that to be the makeup of your rotation because then it can smell a lot like 2003 where you can bring in a veteran who's at the $10 million range, let's say, as a compliment in your rotation.

Jeremy, you're going to back him up? He said you would back him up. You could back him up? So Stowers was another piece in that trade. I just think it actually, like Chris said, It proves the point of being able to identify players whose value is low and being able to turn them into another piece. So you look at, again, Billy brought up Jacob Marcy. Jacob Marcy considered by many as a throw-in into that trade.

But if you look back at Peter Bendix's comments when the trade for Luis Arise was made, he really valued Marcy from the jump and his plate discipline. Since he's come up to the major leagues, he literally has the best eye in baseball and leads across several different categories. Now it's 18 games. but you're seeing the dividends of what they believed in, which is the approach. That's not to say that he'll drive the ball the way that he is as a center fielder consistently through the rest of his career. But Otto Lopez, another guy who they identified, who was DFA, who's been a really productive player for them.

They have been, even for that matter, a nothing trade. Nick Fortez, who didn't have a ton of value, they identify Matthew Etzel, who's been ripping the ball and already promoted from double A to AAA. So they have thus far been in that space. And the debate that you will see is ultimately will Edward Cabrera and Sandy Alcantra, if they're moved, be moved for the value that the Marlins were looking for because their decision at the deadline was to not move those guys because they set a bar for what it is that they wanted and no team surpassed that bar.

Ultimately, you can look at other complementary pieces and say, sure, maybe they should have been moved. but there are other starting pitchers who just simply did not get offers for them. David, that's where we disagree, Jeremy, because I don't believe it was about a bar not being met. I believe what happened is the team was so competitive that they actually changed what their plan was. And that's a big difference. And when you look at a team like the race and a bunch of really good teams, they don't change their plan based on a small sample size.

So, for example, when you have an untimely winning streak and get yourself back to 500, The problem there is that it really shouldn't change what you were going to do. And the plan always was to move Sandy at this deadline. Now, is it possible that they set the bar at a Cy Young level and the true bar was at a very good $17 million pitcher where seven teams would want him? But I think what happened is they were told at the top and you're never going to get Bruce to admit this.

But I think, and it's good for fans. They want this. Fans of the Marlins have always wanted this. So I'm happy it happened. but it can really set you back. But I love the owners saying, hey, man, we're playing well. Let's see if we can ride this out. So it's interesting to me, David, because you say there, you know,

you don't want to change plan based on a small sample size. I find it hard to believe that Peter Bendix would change the plan for the future based on a, you know, small sample size of the team performing a few games under 500 throughout half the season. But you think that it's the owner who made the call. We're standing pat. We're not selling off anything. I promise you that doesn't come from.

from a GM. I promise you the decision to buy or sell is made by 30 men, not president of baseball ops. Owners have the final say in whether you are buying or selling and how much salary you can take on, whether or not you're able to take on money, whether you have to shed money. I promise you, it's not just meddling owners in the way you describe them. It's 30 owners make that decision. Look, every football game is a grind, and if you're like Dan and the crew, you know there's no such thing as one size fits all. Your sleep should be just as custom as coach's game plan. That's where sleep number comes in.

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You're a giant infant. Okay. You have no control over your emotions. You have no control over your emotions. When you're calling someone you know an idiot, I don't deserve it. I don't deserve it. And you're a fool for saying it.

Okay. Stugats You were a fool I was kind of following you're locking in right now You're locking in on eyes Yeah All right Let's drop the gloves pal

Let's rock the eyes You should be thanking me For what? Every day For what? For what? For what I've done Around this character

And the second shit gets real for you You want to come at me And call me a fool? Huh? No, no, no Seriously Jeremy Seriously, pal

I've added 10 years To your career This is the Dan Lebatar show with these two gods. David, let me ask you this. Setting aside the right of last, you know, basically the buck stops here of the owner says,

my way is the highway, right? If you, as the president of baseball ops, your owner comes to you and say, look, I know what you're saying from a strategic standpoint, it makes sense to sell right here, but they're going to kill me if we do that. Is there any part of you that's like,

all right, that makes sense, beyond them just telling you, hey, you got to do it because I said so. I mean, I had 18 years of arguing with the owner up and arguing with the GM down about things that we were doing, not just at the deadline, but during the off season. Whereas president, I had to take into account what the finances of the team were. I had to take into account millions of other things other than are we getting value for this player at this time.

You're looking at an overall team budget. You're looking at the industry. You're looking at a work stoppage that could be happening. So you've got a lot of other things on your mind. And so I lost plenty of arguments up. I gave in plenty of times down, down the chain. So that's what being a president is of any company, is that you have to decide when you're going to make a stand

and realize that at the end of the day, hey, if Dan wants something, Dan's going to get it. On the other side, it's my job to tell an owner, to tell GM, but I'd like you to understand a few other things that are going on that may require you to reevaluate your position. Right. So how many times did you win that argument up? Actually, you win it more than you realize.

You aim for 51%. You'd like to win more than you lose every argument you have, both up or down. And there were some years when you're doing it long enough, some years you're 80, 20, some years you're 2080. It really depends. When we were chasing Amy, I'll tell you the biggest loss I ever had was after Jose died, I thought that we should start rebuilding, that we couldn't win and we should be making a bunch of trades and the owner said forget it let's sign a free agent pitcher let's try to

replace him we'll bring in um oh come on jeremy the guy who pitched the no hitter henderson alvarez no no jeremy edinson volkis finally edinson volkis thank you did you have that one jeremy i mean i had it with my second guess no he didn't know he's an idiot i was got to guess pablo lopez uh david what's going on with kyle tucker can you imagine what is going on there the guy is slumping, no doubt, but Cubs fans are booing him. He doesn't run out of ground ball. I get it. But this guy is the middle of your lineup, and you want him to re-sign as a free agent.

And then on top of that, you're despondent because you were passed by a brewer team that is winning games at a historic rate, having this huge hamburger-laden win streak. And now you say, we're going to rest him a couple days. They're in the middle of a five-game series against the Brewers. Now's when you're going to arrest him because you think he's. you have a better team with Kyle resting, give me a small break. You've got to play him, play it through. He's slumping.

He'll get a little duck fart. He'll get something. It'll get a seen-eye ground ball, and he'll be fine. He's got to play. David, you mentioned the Brewers and the current pace that they, I mean, they had a 14-game win streak snapped the other afternoon. And it brings me to Cubs manager, Craig Counsel, former Brewers player, former Brewers' manager. Craig Counsel also grew up in Milwaukee.

Why is Craig Counsel lying about George Webb hamburgers? It's so stupid. Just to give the background, Craig Counsel said, yeah, I've never heard of George Webb, don't know what it is. And then they found, because it's easy to find, you don't have to be on the dark web with Tony's guy to find a quote from 2018 where Craig Counsel, when the Brewer's last one, 12 in a row, and everyone got free burgers. All of a sudden, counsel was like, yeah, this is awesome. We're getting free burgers for everyone. We've been thinking about this a lot as a team. And then seven years later, I don't even know what that is.

That's just Craig counsel. His sphincter's tightening up. He's looking up at the brewers for a second year in a row, having gone to Milwaukee. And remember, in Chicago, they only look up at the brewers when it's geographic. They look down on Milwaukee almost every other way, every other time. But now they're looking up at them in the standings again. and they're getting tight, they're getting nervous, they're benching Tucker,

they're lying about burgers. You know what? I got an idea. Win some games. Wow. Told you, that's two weeks ago, Craig Counsel, interesting conversation. David, the commissioner,

Rob Manfred went on a broadcast and started saber rattling about expansion and realignment. How realistic is expansion at this point for MLB? It's a guarantee, I mean. It is as guaranteed as the sunset tonight in Miami. And it will always be in the West. We talked about geographic realignment in a strategic planning committee meeting 10 years ago where we were going to have 32 teams. We didn't name

the other two teams, but 32 teams, eight agents, four teams, Mets and Yankees together, Dodgers Angels together, Cubs, White Sox together, raised Marlins together. That was a big one. I raised my hand. What about the Raise Marlins? We got to get that. They were like, yeah, whatever, Dave. So you guys can all have 8,000 people. So it is a, it's a real thing. There's going to be expansion, and it will happen once Tampa is sold. And once that ballpark starts getting built, the Vegas ballpark is getting built, theoretically. And that will be done by 28 or 29.

But all of this is going to come out in the CBA negotiations that are starting right now. People aren't talking about this, but the CBA negotiations, shh, they've started. Now, it's not NLRB official or anything like that. So they haven't decided whether they're going to meet with a square table or a roundtable. But there's constant communication between the union and the commissioner's office. And what will be in this new CBA will be expansion, realignment, expanded playoffs. So we're going to hear a lot about these things. But we're not going to see it, actually.

My guess is until 2030, which may sound like it's far away. but I reminded someone today that we're as close to 2030 as we are far from COVID. David, why does there need to be realignment? Like, what does that do? Oh, it makes it, how does it make sense to you that the Mets and Yankees are not in the same division?

I'm just asking, like, think about that. In a way, it does because then they can meet in the World Series theoretic. Who cares? It's not like they're riding a bus. It's in an hour. So they could still meet in the World Series, but they could also meet in the playoffs,

whether you have one v-16 and expand the playoffs or two conferences of eight playoff teams each and it's one v8 but it's just better for players it's better for travel interlead used to be a super cool thing back when the american league and national league would never play each other until the world series when interleek was introduced it was a huge thing now it's like a tuesday there's interleague every day in baseball

no one gives a flying rat's pituitary gland so what do you do You get rid of it. You forget about it. And you expand, you realign, and you've got Dodgers Angels who are a natural rival. It's amazing. Imagine like Padres Dodger. Oh, it's fantastic. I love it.

My hand was raised for geographic realignment. Put me in a division. Get rid of the Mets. Put me in with the Braves and the new team in Nashville, let's say, and the rays and us. And let's go. Yeah, but now the Citrus series means nothing. Correct. It always meant nothing.

What? But now it really means nothing. So would it be like Eastern Conference, Western Conference, like that? We couldn't come to agreement. So I don't know if they've come to agreement since then on whether you'd actually have conferences, whether you'd officially get rid of the American League and National League, which I think you would, the way they got rid of it with umpires all those years ago. Greg is probably the only one who remembers that umpires used to have AL and NL on their hats.

I do remember that. Yeah, that's not the case anymore. Now they're all Major League umpires. So I think the whole thing with the leagues, it may be done. Wow. So the new Southeast division would be Miami, Tampa, Atlanta, and Nashville. What a horrible division. Oh, my God.

It's like a – what's horrible about it? It's an expansion team. It's the Marlins. It's Tampa is not a sexy team. They don't draw big TV. They don't have a stadium. But it's a balanced schedule, Greg. You play everybody anyway.

Yeah, but Atlanta, like, is going to dominate that division. Any more nationals? If you play everyone anyways, then what difference does it make what division the teams are in? I can't figure it out, Billy. I don't know. Like, why are we fighting for realignment

if you're just going to play everyone the equal amount of times? Don't you play more against the division? Is that format going to change? Don't you play more games? I think it'll be a completely balanced schedule. But again, that has not come to fruition yet. We don't know what will happen.

So it's all going to work itself out. But you originally asked me, I mean, is will there be expansion? Yes, guaranteed. owners want those expansion fees to pay down debt two will there be realignment guaranteed will it be as absolutely epic as full geographic realignment the type that we talked about 10 years ago you got to get 23 votes and uh i would say it's not a guarantee but it's close david before we let you go what movie are you reviewing for us today have any of you watch freaky tales no i i just learned

about it today. Freaky Tales on HBO Max. Is Pedro Pascal in every movie that's made now? Contractually. Yes. I think it's I think I mean you're right. I think he has to be in every movie in some way, shape, or form. Because every time I turn on a movie, he's in it. This is a 1980s movie, except it's new. It takes place in 1987 in Oakland. And you forget what was going on in Oakland around the Alamedic Calcium back there. It's a great 80s movie. But it's also got a horror component but not like jump scare but like gore and it's done in segments like love actually where somehow they all relate at the end but you're not sure how and then they do and then all of a sudden Pedro Pascal gets stabbed and then he's bleeding in a way that looks gross but you're

like that's not real oh come on it's a fire it up spoiler alert yeah yeah it just got it came out this year it's a brand new movie what are you doing way to ruin it sampson you You think that I've ruined the plot saying that Pedro gets bloodied. I'm just saying if you were explaining it, if somebody was like, oh, this sounds cool, I want to watch it. And then all of a sudden you're like, he dies. It's like, whoa. You could have said a character gets stabbed and it looked fake or whatever. You didn't have to say Pedro got stabbed.

It's a wild David Tuesday. Someone tells me, hey, the boat's going to sink at the end. You'd be like, what? Shock of my life. Thank you, David. Nothing personal with David Samson. Catcher wherever you get podcasts. Don Libetard.

Is there back in my day? There is, actually. Are you not going to tell anyone? Wait a minute. You guys, guys, it's a Tuesday. Stugats. Here's your guy. Greg Cody with Back in My Day.

Okay, here it is. Sorry. Adultery. Oh. We are back. We're rated for this one. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. And we transitioned seamlessly to another guest.

We've got my guy Taylor Twelman. Yes, and I'll let you know when he's here. At some point, at the time, hey, Zez, what, what were they chasing those kids out of the house? What happened in that movie? Weapons? Yes, they're just spoiling movies. Why are the kids running? I'm not going to spoil because I don't like spoilers and I don't want anyone to get mad.

But I'll tell you what, man, it's not what you think. I found out why those kids. That's why I had to see weapons really. I got to know. I had to know why they were run out of the house at 2.17 a.m. to not return. And I know now, because I saw the movie. Is it worth seeing in the theater?

Can I just wait for the movie? Yeah, hard movies you want to see in the theater if you could see in the theater. I don't believe that. I don't like that. Someone walks down the eye like this person going to kill us all. I don't like it. To me, I honestly don't know what gets me to. I used to say, I know what gets me.

me to a theater. If it's like a big budget, like, you know, Avengers style thing, I'm going into the theater. And now I've reached a point where I'm like, no, man, it's, it's pretty much like do I feel like watching this? No, I hear you. Your movies are expensive too, man. So to me, like, naked gun, I was like, you know what? I'm not going to wait. I want to go see what it's... See, that's the kind of movie that I don't think you need to see in the theater. I don't think I needed to see in a theater, but I knew I didn't want to wait. That was the thing for me. Like, I don't want to wait. I want to watch this immediately. I have to see all superhero movies in the theater and I have to see them right away. And we go, I go at my boys, it's a thing we do. We see all horror movies

in the theater. Kevin Feigy must hate me when I say this man, but Disney Plus made me be like, I'm not going to pay for any of these movies ever again. I'm just going to wait. So Thunderbolts still haven't seen it. They got to earn your dollar now. They're not even earned, like, it's not happening. I'm trying to think, what's a Marvel movie on the horizon that I'm like, I might go see that. Doomsday? No. What? How about the next Spider-Man? No. Really? That franchise is good. It is good. It is good. We had no way home. I know.

The last one was great. It was great. I just, I don't, I've reached that point where I'll watch it when it comes out on. Here's the thing, though, and this is also part of why I have to see the movie in the theater and I have to see it right away. I don't want spoilers. Oh, I mean, I've actually gotten pretty good at avoiding. So Superman, I still haven't seen Superman.

But I'm like... That's a movie you got to see in the theater, man. I just wait, man. Like, it's going to be on HBO Max in no time. But if you wait, it's not going to be in the theater anymore. No, I got a pretty big TV's ass. And a nice sound system. man like wow who it didn't realize

a mean with his big theater look man I look you got you have the Zaslo Mansion I do I have the Alhasa Manor Manor's a better than mansion now we know one of us has a lot more opulence than the other I'll say seeing naked gun in theaters was a great experience because there's nothing like the communal laugh of a really good comedy like I saw no hard feelings the Jennifer Lawrence comedy in theaters

and it can I think completely changed my perspective on how much I love that movie because when I saw it in theaters, everybody was cracking up. That's a funny movie. And there's something about that experience that makes you really love it later on. Oh, my God. Impassioned to Burt. Oh, he's back!

The Marvel Cinematic Universe. Fellas, it's been a while. You know, I got into some other podcasts, other business ventures and whatnot. I basically just follow you guys through this. social clips. And then yesterday, I saw you guys talking about the Cleveland Brown's quarterback situation. I was like, all right, maybe check back in with these guys. And now, look at the conviction.

He has one side, you've got another, it's just vintage. That's really good stuff. We brought it back. First time, long time. How are you guys doing? It's great out here. I'm loving it. Great couple of months.

Everything's going great. You run into anybody fun? Oh, yeah, mostly in the cabinet. I'm in charge of getting rid of the windmills. Don't like those. Kill a lot of birds. Are birds real? That's between me and the big guy.

We're the two other guys. Thank you very much, Dirty Demon. One of them will be back tomorrow. Which one? The other one. Tune in to find out. Jeremy, I went to Naked Gun and I had like the opposite thing where I was many times the only person to laugh because people didn't get the joke. Do you feel weird about that?

No, it empowers me to laugh louder and harder. Yeah, you like to be the only guy laughing. Makes you feel smarter. Naked Gun was good for a few of those. Where I would laugh and I would just laugh louder because the group that I was with got it. But, I mean, come on, that Janet Jackson joke was a banger. Where are you, folks? I laugh so hard at that.

And everyone was like, I could hear the, it's not even like, that's not funny. It's just like this confusion. Like, what? How do you not get this joke? The black-eyed peas, deadpanning. There's a couple really good moments there. What a great movie. But to go back to what we were talking about.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe? Yeah, what's going to get me into a theater? You know, there's a lot of people were. What are the, the. next big movies that are coming out like just whatever from whatever did Deadpool Wolverine get you out it did I saw that in the movie yeah that was a great I do think doomsday doomsday is gonna be a monster it's just it's such a winner when you just get all these people back I know it's a mess and it's convoluted they got like this is what I think about a lot when I

think about end game and all those things it was it was you could feel it build that crescendo of like what's next what's next even you know Captain Marvel we're back Back in 1994, like, cool, what's next, what's next, what's next? Endgame. Like, oh my God, it was tantric. And now it's just like, Thunderbolts came out, like, oh, it's pretty good. I'm like, I'll wait. I have no sense of urgency.

That's because the quality dipped for an extended period of time, and things got too messy with all these timelines. And there's a great re-bundling. That's a term that I read on the Internet yesterday. I love a good bundle. Everybody knows that. It's a great re-bundling, and I think that they're going to try to give you all the nostalgia, and then put all the old guard away

and then start right back from the beginning with new casting for, you know, the Central Avengers, the Iron Man's, the Captain Americas of the world. We hit reset on that and you start anew. Yeah. Zaz, Endgame, obviously, like I said, was such a great, great crescendo to all that they were building. Endgame was also a time travel movie. Yes.

You have a top five time travel movies. Oh, yeah. Everybody knows if you know one thing about me, you know that I love time travel movies. Love time travel movies. If you know two things about me, you know that I love time travel movies and prison movies. Wow, yes. Those are my movies.

I will see them for sure. But I have a top five time travel movies. I got some OLLI as well. I've also crafted a list as well. Do we want to do alternating? How do we want to do this? You can go back and forth. All right.

We do alternating? You're doing for time travel too? Do your OLLIs first, both of you. Okay. Did a competition, can Greg decide the winner? Sure. I like this. Okay.

Yeah, sure. All right. I'm ready. OLI. Back to the future. Now, back to the future is only an OLLI for me because it's too easy. You know, like, if everybody, if you know anything about me, you know that I never do anything that's too easy. So back to the future is an OLLI.

If you got some brass on you, boy. OLLI, hot tub time machine. It was fun. How does it's time to have a work? You go through a hot tub. One or two? One. Okay.

Two is a little derivative. Craig, who's winning so far? He's O-L-I's. That's not an O-L-I. Okay. All right. One, nothing. That means his list could be better, though, if that's an O-L-I.

Thus far, I think he's cheated by putting a high-ranking movie as an O-L-L-L-A. Well, let's see how it goes. O-L-L-I, the Butterfly Effect. I. That movie. That's like the only good Ashton Kutcher movie. That's a good movie. That movie I saw when I was younger.

I watched it a couple years ago. Man, that first 10 minutes is jarring. I did not remember how wild, like, the setup is for how everything's so broken. He's very controversial these days, Ashton Kutcher. But that was a good movie. I like that movie. Him and his wife. O-L-I, Deadpool 2.

Cable comes back from the past to kill the kid. And they got to figure out, like, hey, do you kill the kid who grows up to be? this awful person. Would you kill the kid? Yeah, I'm kind of like Team Cable on this. And Deadpool's thing is like you can change. Anyone can change. I'm like, I don't know, buddy.

I don't know. Yeah. All right. OLL, the Adam Project. I love this movie. This is Ryan Reynolds. I love that movie so much. It's really funny because it's your typical Ryan Reynolds type humor.

Big time travel. It's got a lot of heart. It's got a family aspect to it. It's got great action, great music. Zoe Salada's in it looking very, very cute. I love the Adam Project. O-L-I. Next. What is that?

That's the Nicholas Cage movie where he can see into the future, like five minutes at a time. So then he actually lives it and then goes back in time five minutes and then redos it the right way. So he becomes like an incredible gambler. He's trying to, what's the name of the girl in the movie that he's trying to holler at? Mike. I don't remember next. Oh, wow. I like that.

I remember Bangkok Dangerous where the soup was hot. with the deaf girl Do you have any more OLA? I don't. Jessica Beal. There you go. And he tried to holler at Jessica Beal and he fails and then he goes back five minutes early and he does it again and he fails and he keeps doing it until he figures out what the right way to do is.

It's hot. Hot. Here we go. Number five, Zaz. Twelve monkeys. Pitt got nominated for that. Bruce Willis got sent back. back into the past? Oh, yeah, he's all over, all over the place. Brad Pitt, maybe Brad Pitt's

performance of his career. He's incredible in that movie. Bruce Willis, of course. That movie's wild. 12 Monkey, that's a good movie, good time travel movie. Number five, Avengers Endgame. Although they try to clarify that it's not quite time travel. It's a heist movie, I think. It's a heist movie, but also they say it's not time travel because you're going in different realities of time movies. All right. Number four. A rival. Amy Adams, Jeremy. What, you crazy?

That movie's incredible. You've never seen a movie like Arrival. I've seen a bunch better. Time is, it's linear. Number four. Back to the Future three. Really, that's what you're doing? Hey, they went back to the 1880s and I was like,

oh man, I wish I could live in the 1880s. What a cheap way out. Mad Dog, you for. Bernard Tannen. There you got it. Bupid Mad Dog Tannan. Didn't the Ninja Turtles Time Travel?

T-MNT3. Yep. That's a syphobe episode. Look it up. Well, wait, maybe that'll be on the list. Number three. It's the same movie as Deadpool 2. Only it was made before it.

And that's Looper. It's the same movie. Looper with, what's his face? He's got the three names. Joseph Gordon-Levin. Bruce Willis. Emily Blunt. Paul Dano,

as well. That's seen with him early on in the movie. really sets the tone. And Jeff Daniels plays a gangster in that movie. Yeah. Looper, again, it's the same movie as Deadpool 2. Looper's so good. I love that movie. Looper's a good movie. You mentioned Emily Blunt. She's in my

number three. Edge of Tomorrow. Live, die, repeat. Nope, it's Edge of Tomorrow forever. Live, die, repeat. That's the cool name. Live die repeat sounds corny. Edge of Tomorrow? Shit. That got me to the theaters. I heard that movie. edge of tomorrow, I'm there.

Number two. X-Men Days of Future Past. Incredible movie. Mike Ryan, I don't like the way you looked at me with the side eye there. Do you have any idea what a good movie is? No, that was a great movie.

That's a great movie. I'm regretting it's not on my list right now. Wordy title. Wordy. Who's winning so far, Greg? Just check in here. You know, so far I have only heard of one of the movies mentioned.

Back to the Future? No, 12 Angry Men. Oh, that's your first time hearing back to the future? Repeat a few movies back. So who had 12 Angry Men? I think that was sad. Star Trek 2? Yeah.

12 Monkeys. 12 Angry Men? Whatever. 12 Angry Men? They're in a jury. He's fine. One movie. Time traveling in the movie.

It's fantastic. Number two. That was number two. Number two. Back to the Future, too. Remember what 2015 looked like? That was cool. Your list is cheap.

No, man, it's not cheap. Wait until you get to my number one. You'll never believe what it is. What's your number one? Interstellar. That's the greatest time travel movie. Come on now. It's Christopher Nolan's best film. It's an incredible...

They're on the planet. Every hour they're on the planet. They lose seven years. That's not time travel. That's just living. When you're in a wormhole, that's time travel. It's not time travel. Don't tell me that if there's a wormhole, we're not talking about time travel.

It's time travel. The book. No, no, no. There's time travel. And Matt Damon, scoundrel. Yeah, he is. Yep. Yep.

Bad man. My number one, you mean to tell me, you built a time machine out of a Dolorian? Come on, man. Doc, doc. The scar on your head, you fell off your toilet, and that's the day. Greg is clapping.

And I can't wait to see which TMC classic he's got. What? Point 21, take a one. Watts! One point twenty one single one. It can't be done. It can't be done, Inie. Come on, man. Yes, it's an incredible movie. It's the quintessential time travel movies.

But it's so, like, your list is so cheap, though. What would it be like if I met my mother and father when they were in high school? Yes, the winner. Back to the Future. Thank you. Do we bring in Taylor Tollman right here? Let's go to break. We'll bring him right back. All right. Taylor Tillman, next.