The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The 'For The Love Of The Game' Security Guard (feat. Jessica Smetana)

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

"For the fans of high school basketball in the mid-20th century in Indiana..." Jess stops by to inform the crew about the NCAA Women's Tournament, break down the Will Wade hire by LSU, explain why Syracuse's coach is angry about the repetitive nature of her team's bracket placement, and to teach Zaslow who Chappell Roan is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

This episode of the Dan Levitart show is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. Sweet 16 action last night, first two games were awesome. I hated that those, because the last, you know, the two games of the end of the night weren't great. Arizona crushed Arkansas and Illinois beat Houston. But the first two games, Purdue and Texas, awesome. Iowa and Nebraska, awesome. Like, both at the same time.

I don't know if you guys know the way it works. I can't have sound on multiple TVs at once. It'd be really confusing. So I could only have sound on one of the games, and I chose for it to be Purdue in Texas, and then I'm watching, you know, keeping track of Iowa, Nebraska on the other TV, but that's on mute.

You know about that multi-view? Yeah, but then you can't have sound... But it can't be multi-sound. You don't want multiple sounds on. I drive a person insane. That's what I'm saying. But you just switch, like you just toggle the screen. Does it happen with you guys with my YouTube TV?

It takes forever for the... the sound to go over. If I have two games going, if I go over to the right one, it doesn't instantly go. You know about that good internet? Is that what it is? It takes sometimes like 30 seconds for the sound to switch. I'm telling you, maybe it's just my setup. My internet's fine in general, I think, but... Can I

tell you? I think it was at the Heat Game. Jessica Smetana, joining us, of course. Hello, Jess. Hey, Jess. Good morning. Hello, good morning. At the Heat game. I was at the Heat Game last week, and they do those, you know, those trivia or something in timeouts or whatever. And they had a kid, I don't know, he looks at

me like 18, all right? And it's, what sound is this? And they play the sound of dial-up internet. The kid heard a noise he'd never heard before. He had no clue what the sound was. I mean, like we're at that point where dial-up was so, that sound. Do you remember when you would use dial-up? Jess, do you remember?

I don't know, maybe you're too young, even, Jess, but you would use dial-up? and then, and then, that is a compliment. You would use dial-up, and then you would lose the signal because your mom would like pick up the phone downstairs because she wants to make a phone phone phone phone. Mom, I was in the middle of downloading something. Wow, you didn't have a business line.

Right? Oh, you have to have the business line. You would always get interrupted by your parents picking up the phone. Anyway, Jess, were you into the games last night? I was very into the games last night, but I have a question because I have the same scheduling issue as you do. And it's the same thing tonight. There's multiple games on at the same time. But on the women's NCAA tournament today starting at 2.30, we have staggered start time so I can watch all the games back to back to back. Why do the men have all of their games on at prime time?

Or 10 p.m. is like, I understand that's prime time for the West Coast. But I mean, there's just no way I'm staying up till midnight to watch Houston shoot 28% from the field. That's not that sucks. And like the first game tonight, St. John's and Duke, which, man, like, going to be really great. Alabama, Michigan's going to be great. Anyway, the first game, Duke, St. John, 7.10, you got to have the first game at 6. The first game's got to be 6 p.m. These games, you're starting them too late. You have four games, Jess, all starting after 7 p.m.

Come on, get a clue. Can I also say, the other day, I heard Dusty May was going to be on the show. I said, oh, that's cool. Lehman has been embedded with the Michigan basketball team. whole year working on a documentary series about the Road to March Madness. And I said, I'll, I'll stay tuned for that. Maybe there's a sound bite that I can send to Lehman that they can put in the show. Took away, Mo. Well, I was wrong. I was wrong about that. I gave you plenty of sound bites there. What's a problem? Most enjoyable interview he's had in a while, he told us.

He was into it. He was asking me questions along the ride. He loved it. Okay. I don't know if it's going to make the final cut. Did you guys see this? So Will Wade, all right? Will Wade is now the He's once again, once again, the head coach at LSU. That seems pretty rare that that happens, right? Yeah, this is very rare. I saw someone on Twitter accuse LSU of building the Avengers of Asshole coaches. Yeah, yeah. And tell everybody who you're referencing, of course.

Well, Lane Kiffin is there. I don't know if you saw that. And Will Wade has his own reputation. I cannot. Oh, Kim, don't you dare say a bad thing about Kim. We love her. Be nice. Be nice.

She's a saint. Yes. You tread lightly. You're the one who bought the asshole Avengers. I didn't even consider she was one of them. One thing you need to know about me, Zaz. I'm a big Kim Malky guy. All right.

All right. I don't know what it is, baby. He's an eye. I don't know. I don't know what it is. Thank you, buddy. All right. Yeah, big fan of Kimm.

Tipoffs. They are playing tonight against Duke. That's going to be a really, really fun game. A lot of storylines in that one. Yeah, that one's a banger of a game in the women's tournament. So, Will Wade has left NC State. NC State lost in the first four to Texas,

who lost last night, really fun game against Purdue. We can get to the games in a moment here. But Will Wade becomes, again, the LSU head coach. He signed, I think, a six-year deal with NC State last year? This was the first year of his deal. But here's what happened, all right? So let's go back. I think this is about two weeks ago when there are,

You know, the LSU job is opening up. And, you know, the rumors are starting to fly. So as any good reporter would do, they would ask Will Wade about the potential of becoming the LSU head coach. Once again, here it is. A lot of talk with you and potential position at LSU. You just wanted to see if anybody from that campus reached out to you and just give you an opportunity to speak on that. No, is the job open there? Huh?

No. So I would, I'm not, listen, be very clear. I'm excited at NC State. I was hired at NC State to do a job. This wasn't going to take one year. I've already met with our administration about next year and some of the changes that we need to make and some of the things that we need to do

to put this program where it deserves long term. So I'm not, you know, I'm not on social media. I'm not into gossip. I'm not into any of that sort of stuff. But look, we're going to win, and we're going big at NC State. For me, Jess, it's one thing to do the whole lying thing, all right, and it's another thing to try and make the reporter feel like an asshole.

And that's what he did there. He was right, though. The job wasn't open. It's unclear if the job ever was open because they seemed to hire him before they fired their coach that had signed a seven-year deal. What was it, three years ago? because of the amount of turmoil that the program was in because of the recruiting violations from Will Wade's first tenure.

So I feel like there's like a small domino, big domino thing happening here with like small domino, Brian Kelly gets embarrassed on national television against Texas A&M and then like Big Domino Will Wade's back at LSU. Because of all the things I had to happen in the athletic department for this to come back around. But I'm with you, Zaz, very, you know, just kind of braddy way. to answer that question. And then ultimately, he looks like a liar. I think Boo Corrigan, the NC State athletic director would tell you that he, you know, he said he felt like he was lied to and he wants to commisory with the fans and he's disappointed. And then my last final thing on this is the statement that he put out was a very graphic design is my passion statement. It was just very

ugly. What are we doing? Like, why did you do it in red? Why did you make NC State colors? Like, did the NC state designers. They're like, yeah, we're not going to make one for you. So you got to make one yourself. He's like, okay, I'll make it look like it's an NC state thing. It was very ugly. I did not like it. All right.

So as you guys go with, sorry. Well, I'm just curious where you come down on this. If you, would you rather be Will Wade or Wade Will? I think Wade will is better. And if you're William Wade, I think you go Billy Wade over Wade, Will Wade. How say you? Are you Wade William, though? or are you just Will?

Wade will. No, Will. I think really, like, if you're Will Wade, I think the better option is Billy Wade. Like, all of the derivations of William, Billy is the coolest. In fact, I am a William. I'm William David, but I named my son, Billy.

I didn't name him William. I named him Billy. Just because, like, once you get to those teen years, then you feel like I want to be more grown up and so you go, like, let's lose the why, because that's a little boy. then I'm Bill. But then if you're Bill Damashek for the, that's Squaresville. But if you're Billy Damashek as a grownup, you're cool. And if you're Billy Wade, you're

cooler than that dork we just saw admonishing the nice reporter that Will Wade. Says everything about you could see it coming from a mile away. Why? Because his name is Will. What kind of hardo goes with Will over Billy? So like Jessica alluded to, the NC state AD is Buch Horgan. And here he is yesterday giving a, his, His side of the events that took place leading up to Will Wade leaving. Asked him what he needed, right? What do we need to be competitive? From there, as far as the resignation letter, it was an email, right, that we received from his agent and talking with his agent.

So he did not reach out to you to record. Not from that standpoint. There's a lot of people, particularly the ones in I know, that subsidize the success in athletics, to feel disappointed, maybe even feel like they were lied to? How do you speak to them in regards to what you're going to do in the future and to sort of say, hey, stick around, stick with us, we're going to do that. I think I would commiserate with them in terms of feeling lied to, right, and let them know that it's not something that I didn't know anything about

and, you know, as surprised as they are by what's going on, but reassure them that we're going to find a coach that wants to be at NC State. An email from the agent to the AD, that's Bush. Jess, that's Bush. Yeah, I mean, and also the ugly graphic design is my passion statement. I think that's more Bush League. But I mean, I don't know. There's a lot of ire for Will Wade and LSU and all this stuff.

I guess my question is, I don't really, I don't know, I don't watch a lot of LSU. you men's basketball to begin with, but was his record, is his record that good that it's worth doing all of this, like, weird public, just kind of shadiness? Like, I, it's, he's not like, got like a Coach K record, right? It's very, I don't know. It's weird. Like, he was let go at LSU the first time under scandal, right? There were, I think, like, wasn't there an FBI probe involved? Yeah, there was a wiretap, yeah. But now it's like, okay, well, you can't pay players. But he is positioned well for the modern era as just highlights. A lot of the problems.

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Stugats. Certainly not from your lovely grandfather, God. May a soul rest in peace. This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats. Anyway, the games last night, though. Purdue beats Texas in a really close one. Iowa beats Nebraska, also in a close one. Did you see, so, what was it, Nebraska?

Nebraska's trailing Iowa by three with a little more than a minute remaining. Iowa has the basketball. Mike, Fred Hoyberg and M. Boys. They only had four them boys on the floor. That's coaching, Zez. And it resulted in a layup, which resulted in an actual three-point play. Game over. How do you only have four players on the floor in that spot?

I have never ever heard of a team only having. he won fewer player than needed on the field or on the court in a pivotal point in a game before. So I truly can't relate. I mean, these Nebraska fans must feel terrible. Well, so Fred Hoyberg, predictably, was him and his team were asked about it postgame. For Rink, about 58 seconds left. They did that beat ball to Alvaro for the bucket. I think there were four players on the court.

Can you say what happened? I'll address that one, Myron. Put that one on me. It was a miscommunication. And, you know, I'm the head coach. put that one on me. The four men on the court on that final inbound, there's some confusion online about if that's the rules

you're supposed to have five guys on the court where the official was supposed to hold the ball before the ball was playing? That's a good question, Rob, and I've never been in a situation like that. I know they always count to make sure there's not six. I don't know the rule on that with four. But, yeah, I mean, again, it was a miscommunication,

and, you know, unfortunately it happened. but as far as the rule, I've never been a part of anything like that. I just wanted to make the point that to point out this spectacular irony or coincidence or whatever it is that coach Norman Dale did in fact only put four guys out on the floor and said my team's on the floor famously for high school basketball fans from the mid-20th century in Indiana. My team's on the floor, his team's name, the Huskers. Look at Freddie Hoyberg, doing it with the Huskers.

in the 21st century. How great is that? You know, Dave, it's interesting that you say that because, and good on Fred Hoyberg for taken full blame, as you should obviously, but it's interesting that you say that because obviously the officials, if you have six on the floor, they're like, it's going to be a technical foul. But if you have four on the floor, like in Hoosiers, the referee says you, you need a fifth, like the referee isn't supposed to actually allow the ball to be inbound if you don't have your team yet on the floor. And then the coach acknowledges, okay, this is what I want.

My team is on the floor. That's actually, like, you are supposed to get that discretion from the referee. And so last night, the referees clearly were not counting the players on the floor. It's, again, it's Hoyberg's responsibility. but normally the referee would say, coach, you need five guys. Is it, though? The solicitous referees are supposed to step in and be like, hey, trying to do you a solid here, coach.

You can throw another guy out there. They don't do that in football games. But not in the NFL, not in football games. You don't do that when you only have 10 guys out there. Yep, you're right. You're right. But in basketball, yeah, it's normally like, hey, you know, you don't imbound the ball yet because it was coming out of a timeout

and maybe the fifth guy is still coming off the bench. Like you're waiting for all five guys before you hand them the ball. And clearly the referees, they did not do that. So anyway, really good games last night. Jess, do you know who Chapel Rhone is? Because I don't have a clue. And I feel like you might be able to help me out. That can't be.

So I keep seeing on social media this, am I even saying the name right? Yes. This Chapel Rhone is all over my timeline. I don't have a clue who this person is. Dave, do you know who Chapel Rone is? I am aware of her because for better or worse. I'm pretty sure it's her. It's a her.

I saw a picture on social media in the last couple of weeks that she had her side bosom exposed. Is that right? She does tend to expose the side bosom, yes. Zaz, this is a social media controversy for our times based off of an incident that happened in Brazil last week where Chapel Rhone was performing at a festival. and she was at the hotel. She's like a pop artist? Wait, do you actually not? I'm sorry.

He's genuine. Yes, this is not big. He genuinely doesn't know, Jess. He genuinely doesn't know who she is. He's got a very finite musical. Pink pony club. She's not in Metallica. So I guess she would know.

I like what I like. She's the Pink Pony Club. Do you watch college game day, Zaz? Yeah. Okay, do you remember when they did the ought to go bit with family a couple times last? Okay. So that was a reference to a chapel Rhone song.

Yes. See, I'm trying to find you at your level where you may have encountered. I know that song. I assume you're not watching SNL. Okay. She also has been on SNL twice, I think. Okay, go on. So she's a performer.

She's an artist. She's, you know, a young woman. She's at her hotel in Brazil. And apparently, according to the soccer star Georgino, his, I think wife or perhaps girlfriend, I'm not sure if they're married. His wife's daughter, who is the daughter of also Jude law, who I found out has like seven kids, didn't know that. They were at the same hotel, and apparently she walked past Chapel Rhone

and smiled at her or something like that. And then a big, ginormous burly security guard, who was part of Chapel Rhone's security group, went up to her and told her, like, told her off basically and was like, don't do that. And this girl was very rattled and upset. And so Giorgino, whose wife is a, somewhat famous reality person posted it on his Instagram story and then there was a ton of backlash

at Chapel Rhone and people were making memes about how she hates kids and she wants to like kill kids and stuff so then she posted a video where she was like I don't know who that security guard is I don't hate kids I have never done anything like that before and I don't even remember seeing this girl or her mom and I feel bad for them because that's you know shitty that that happened to them and then a lot of people were like well you know, this was your security guy. What are you talking about? And like Giorginio's, Catherine Harding is her name, the mom of the daughter, was like,

you should know if a security guard is representing you, it's still your fault, and was liking all these comments bashing Chapel Rhone. And then the security guard, who's got like a ton of Instagram followers, he must be some sort of like security guard influencer. I'm not sure. He posted on his Instagram yesterday, he was not representing Chappellee. was not representing Chapel Road and he apologized and was like, no one told me to do that.

So this is a whole controversy involving a lot of people with a lot of social media followers and Chapel Roan, who has now been apparently banned from performing in Rio by the mayor of Rio, who was very ticked off by this whole thing, even though this incident occurred in Sao Paulo. So the tentacles of this run deep, Zaz. It is insane. The best part about the mayor,

banning her from the performance. It was his second day as the mayor. Oh, he's a man about action. He was like elected the day before. He was elected the day before. He became the mayor and was like, perfect win for me. Georgino's upset. Let me defend him and kick chapel rowing out of here. Dave, did you follow all that? I have no GEDA idea. The whole story that Smetana just is allowed. What the hell I haven't heard? But you know Jude Law? He's of your era, right? No, no. My air is none of your business. The point is I didn't, I had no idea of it. I am vaguely aware the chapel, chapel around.

You got it. Yeah, you got it. Chapel Rhone is a, I'm aware of her pop. She's pop star. She's a child. Yeah. I have children. The question is, Dave.

I didn't know about all this stuff down in Brazil. I hadn't heard a single note of this. The question is, is she a brat who did, like, wanted to tell off this kid and is now using the bodyguard as the fall guy. And also, worth noting, she has had a lot of incidents with paparazzi. She does not like being a famous person, basically. Like, she wants privacy. And obviously, it's not afforded to her most of the time, which understandable. But she's gotten in like little dust-ups before. But the question is, did she use this bodyguard as a fall guy? She actually did tell him like, hey, go yell at this little, you know, 12-year-old girl. Or was this just a complete misunderstanding

and he acted of his own accord? Well, can you just go back to this? Because I can't really render a until I understand what the exchange was. What is the alleged incident that the, the chapel Rhone said to a security guard or to the child directly? Don't look at me. Don't make eye contact with me. I, okay, I need, now I need to pull up. He posted a long Instagram story and now I want to pull it up and read it to you directly. So give me a second. Because the allegation was that he basically came over when they were having breakfast and quote unquote, was speaking in an extremely aggressive manner to both my wife and my daughter, saying she shouldn't allow my daughter to, quote, disrespect or, quote, harass other people.

Honestly, I don't know at what point simply walking past a table and looking to see if someone is there can be considered harassment. He even said he would file a complaint against them with the hotel while my 11-year-old daughter was sitting there in tears. My daughter was extremely shaken and cried a lot. So like the daughter seems like she had a truly upsetting experience, and it was very traumatic for her to be yelled at by the security guard. So that does not seem to be in question.

I got a daughter. Daughters be crying. The thing about this that's really insane, Dave, and this is where it gets like spicy, is that this security guard who took the fall, this security guard who took the fall claimed to not be there working on behalf of Chapel Rome. He's saying I wasn't Chapel's personal security guard.

I also wasn't the hotel's security guard. So the question is, whose security was he? Whose security was he? this was a music festival, right? So was he there for one of the other performers? And he was just there at the hotel. And what's interesting, too, is there was a picture posted of the daughter

with Louis Capaldi, another singer who was performing in this festival. And so the question becomes, was this little girl just running around to every table where there was a celebrity trying to ask and take a picture? And is she maybe? Maybe is this family spoiled

and entitled and thinking that they deserve a photo with everyone. Are they? It's a question. What I'm saying is, No, I'm saying this is what the internet is saying. The question is it just a reputation preceding her. I think perhaps we should look at the mother and Georgie Neal himself because included in the Instagram story where they called out Chapel Road and the bodyguard at the end of it in all caps, quote, without your fans, you would be nothing.

And to the fans, she does not deserve your affection. So they immediately went on the attack in this Instagram post, which I feel like this is where I net out on this. like for the rest of this poor child's life, she's going to be the girl who was involved in this thing because of her parents, because her parents decided to make it like a public spectacle and go after a super famous pop star, whether or not you like the pop star or not.

I'm not like a huge Chapalrome fan by any means. I'm just trying to look at this objectively. And now those little girl's always going to be remembered as little girl who was like sad because Chapel Roan's bodyguard may have been mean to her or some other random bodyguard was. And I feel like the parents putting the little girl on blast and putting her picture out there

and being like, look at how upset my daughter is, is kind of weird. I love the idea of this guy not being associated with Chaparone at all and just being a security guard and it's just like when I'm in a lobby and I see someone who needs security, I have to security. I like that idea that he's just he's just security guard for wherever

he is like who do you think is his employer then? Like who pays him? Love the game. He just shows up and he didn't want to but he's like I got a security. Maybe then on the way out like he leaves an invoice on the hotel desk, you know, I did security for you owe me. Security just for the side boob. That's the only

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And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Met in my face. In my face, Max Scher. All right, so that's one thing. Stugats. There are a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met.

And he can watch if he wants. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. Jess, speaking of the women's tournament, I want to make sure I get your opinion here because I saw this a few days ago. You know, last week, well, look, with the women's tournament, I'm wholly uninterested in the first couple rounds because all the games are blowouts. And that's not true. The first round, the first round, there are some, a lot of blowouts.

The second round was awesome. If you didn't pay attention to the second round, you missed out on a lot of really good games, with the exception of the Yukon-S Syracuse game, which was in prime time, which that's a whole other things as that I think people. Well, that's what I want to mention. Are you about, yeah, like the, you know, South Carolina and Yukon has won seeds being on ABC while the other games are on ESPN and ESPN 2 when in their first round games, they're going to win by 70 points.

Like, they're going to just beat up on these six. 16 seeds. I agree with you. They're not the most competitive games. But there are other really competitive games like the Iowa Virginia game, which was on ESPN in the middle of the workday, ended up going to double overtime and was a huge upset. And Virginia became the first team to play in the final four in the women's tournament and advance to the second weekend. That was a pretty huge game and a huge upset. But, you know, not as, I mean, not as many people watched it as the, I think the South Carolina game, which was on at 7 o'clock, which was a few hours later. But yes, going to bring up, which is the Syracuse

head coach talking about constantly being seated in the Yukon sub-regional. Is that right? Yeah. So, like, Yukon beat Syracuse last weekend. I think the score was 98 to 45. And as Jessica mentioned, like, it's on ABC and it's just, it's a total shalacking.

And so here is the Syracuse head coach. This is after the game and like she doesn't think it's fair that they have to play Yukon. But we, I thought, deserved a little more respect after being in this business for 37 years and to have to come and be in this particular bracket every freaking year is unacceptable is wrong.

I mean, Jess, they were the nine seed. They won a game, so they're going to play the one seed the next round. It's Yukon. I guess she's saying she's had to play Yukon several times. We all know Yukon's like almost always one of the best teams. Like, does she have a right to be mad? Because I don't know, it sounds like it just, you know, be a seventh seed. you don't have to play you con in the second round, you know?

Yeah, she even said like bump us down to a 10 and then we could go to like Greenville or, you know, or not Greenville, Columbia play South Carolina. Like she was saying it was a much longer quote than that, but she was saying like she feels like it's personal that Syracuse is constantly put in the same group as Yukon and that in years where, you know, Syracuse has a potential to be good enough to win a second round game. They're going up against this juggernaut in Yukon every year and it's not fair. And so according to,

PSPN, five of the last seven NCAA tournament appearances that Syracuse has had have been versus Yukon in the second round. Three of them have been on Yukon home court. So that is quite a significant amount. And part of the reason is travel because it's cheaper for Syracuse to rent a bus and drive to, you know, stores than it would be to fly them to L.A. to play UCLA or whatever. So I think she's saying like it's like we've had this same matchup so many times. It's lazy bracketing put us in a different group because we're going to lose this game every time we don't have you know what but everyone's going to that game in the second round of Yukon like everyone's going to yeah but like that's possibly that certainly this year in Yukon is is really really good and it's

going to be difficult for any team to beat them but I think it's she's saying like you know let us have a different matchup basically like it's probably even difficult for her to get fans to come to this game even though it is close by because it's It's like, okay, well, it's Yukon and they're going to lose in the second round, whereas, like, she's saying she's not even really getting a chance to play someone different. She also was the coach at Buffalo before this where they played in the Yukon sub-regional number of times. So I'm just saying, like, I think, you know, it probably wasn't the time and the place for her to do this, because it sounds like, you know, okay, skill issue, be better than, like, try to be good enough to beat Yukon.

You know, you're the head coach at Syracuse. That seems like something that you should be more concerned with. But I do think there is a point there with just how the brackets are made and like just repeatedly giving people the same matchups year in and year out because five of the last seven is pretty, that's a pretty, you know, large proportion of your tournament appearances that are ending up playing against Yukon. And according to Justice Collins on Twitter, since 2017, Yukon has sent Syracuse home four times in the second round.

And then she said, I looked at our other top teams early on the repeat knockout the most is twice plus she played Yukon when she was at Buffalo in 2019. So other teams are not playing the same team as many times as Syracuse has played Yukon. I think that's what she was upset with. And then I think in the ESPN article I read, um, Princeton was also like, you know, seated. I think they were the overall 34 and Syracuse was. Yeah, that's been happening. Technology. We got to get on that. Sorry about that, Jess. But I guess it all boils down to. I don't think it's so much personal as it is regional. It's money.

It's like all these teams that have played Yukon a bunch are all in the Northeast. Yeah, it's money. I mean, and you got to remember, you know, those first couple weeks, they play at home. There's finances involved there. Jess, sorry, we lost your connection, but make sure you check Jess out. Every week, Notre Dame podcast, the Echoes. Echoes, Echoes, Echo. With Mike Golick Jr.

Great job, Jess. We appreciate you. Let's do some updating of our brackets. You have the Midwest region. We have some round of 32 results. we need to make sure we catch up on here, guys. All right. Number five, Texas Tech.

They were represented by this. Jalen Brunson looks like the valet driver who lost your keys. It's a good team we lost there. So they are done. And advancing their playing tonight, they lost two, number four Alabama represented by Paul Feinbaum looks like the matro de at a fancy restaurant. All right.

That's a good one. That's a good one. In the East region, number seven, UCLA, they are done. They were represented by. Cal Raleigh looks like a motorcycle highway patrol officer. I thought that was underseated in this tournament. And they're playing tonight, but they lost last weekend two. Number two, Yukon represented by.

Adam Silver looks like a newly open chapstick. Strong. Chapstick wrong. All right, there you go. So tonight, you got St. John's Duke. Alabama, Michigan, Michigan State, Yukon, Tennessee, Iowa State. I'm in... Hey, Zaz.

Some good games tonight. Yes. I wanted to ask Smetana, and now I ask you, were these... Listen, listen, it's a Pittsburgh. Would you like to answer the question Zaz was asking? I would like to... What was the question? Yeah, I mean, that's exactly the point, Dave.

Yes, but proceed. What was the question? What was this question? What say you, Dave? Say it. Just say. We park our cars in the same garage. He said he was excited to watch these games.

Wasn't that what he was saying? Yeah, he was setting something up. I didn't hear a question, Mark. Yeah, it was weird. We never got to the question. Oh, well, excuse me. Please. The floor is yours, Zaslow.

The floor is yours. I mean, who else would we be excusing? You're the one who came in. Of course. I didn't know that there was a way we were leading to a question. All right, please. Go ahead. Tony, Zazzaz.

You hear that question right there? Hey, Zaz! Which game are you most into tonight? It's St. John's Duke. It's St. John's Duke. That's the game. See, this is fraud. He's going to the Marlins game.

He's being watching the NCAA tournament the whole time. This guy's a fraud. Or he's lying about watching St. John's Duke. No, he's not. He'll be at the domestic beer bar in Center Field watching him. I got a phone. Tony, I'll meet you there. Dave.

Dave, what say you? Well, more interesting than what game Tony is. going to watch or finds most compelling. Here's my fascinating question for you. It's whimsical. Originally for Smitana though, but now for me, right? That's right. A reheat for you, were these not men's men's basketball matchups, but instead college football matchups, which game would you find most compelling? Oh, would it be in Michigan, Alabama, Tennessee, Iowa State, or do you go back to last night, Iowa, Nebraska's pretty juicy. Illinois Houston, sneaky, good, Arkansas and Arizona.

Okay, if it's on it late night, you might sit there and watch it. And Texas Purdue could be a fun one. Pretty clearly Alabama, Michigan, I think. Yeah, like, I feel like we have to cross off Alabama Michigan. I love the idea of your game, but every matchup you said, yeah. Not as good as Alabama Michigan. Iowa, Nebraska's pretty good. If I would take out Michigan, Chris is right, you have to cross off Michigan, Alabama.

It would be, hmm. The citrus bowl. Hmm. Maybe Texas Purdue. Yeah. Yeah. You watch Marshall. Purdue?

I want to George Manning. You ever heard of Arch? Have you seen that photo of Arch doing the play action fake before? No one knew that like the Peyton Manning's stiff neck on the play action fake was hereditary until they saw that photo. He looks exactly like him. You guys see that Marshall Manning? Apparently we got a better one. He's like a chint.

That's Peyton's actual kid. That's Arch be good first. That's who Mike's talking about, right. Well, was that the photo and it wasn't Arch? Yeah, it's actually Peyton's kid. Wow. Marshall Manning. Then it's directly hereditary.

Zas, to answer your question, though, it's St. John's Duke. That's the best game of the night. St. John's Duke is very juicy. I'm rooting hard for St. John's because who the hell roots for Duke? And I like Patino being in the tournament this long. Like Patina, it's fun watching. With a team that can't really shoot is like,

it's a weird team that's like specifically built for the big yeast. It's like they can't really do a lot of things. They like to muck up the game. Duke has been vulnerable at times. And I want to see the pressure of St. John's going to put on it. It's a team that once won 17 minutes without scoring. Correct. And Patino threatened to kill himself because they miss free throws.

Which is boss. I mean, the hype train. If St. John's wins tonight, Duke is a six and a half point favorite according to draft King's Sportsbook. St. John's wins tonight. The hype is going to be at a fever pitch heading into the regional final Sunday. Does he come in with the white suit? All white tonight or no?

It would be a power move if you did. Feels like the night to do it. It's like you're playing Duke. You look across, you've got the boozer twins. You got a bunch of five-star guys. And you look at your team and it's a bunch of rag-tag bunch, bad news bears. He comes in with the cream suit with the red. tie means business as what shirt underneath? A cream one.

Is there any coach that wears the suit now? Any coach that breaks this new thing of wearing track suits? I feel like Mick Cronin was wearing a suit. Was he? Yeah. All right. That's the answer. Dan Hurley tonight, Dan Hurley wears a suit. No, yeah. Okay. Is that Bill Murray's kid that just got that BC job? Oh, maybe. I know he was an assistant with Yukon. Yeah, yeah. He just, I think he's getting the BC job. Dave, what say you? He works hard. All right. I mean, Dave, you're playing rigamortis? What's going on?

I had no idea. He's playing it. You're asking me. Is that Bill Murray's child? I have no idea of that Bill Murray's child. I would say something. It is indeed. Luke Murray.

Bill Murray, the actor Bill Murray. Yes. As a child. You think we're talking about a different Bill Murray? Who is. He's a child. Bill Murray, the actor. Who is wise enough about the sport of basketball.

Finance. Here? To be that. to be the head coach of a basketball? He works hard. Remarkable. That's pretty rangy stuff from the Murray family. That would have been great 15 seconds earlier.

It's a family of actors. He's just learning about this. Tusha. Sports fans, all the sports are coming together. It's a great time. Just sit on your couch. Text your friend. Hey, come over.

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