The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Great Drum Decision of 2025 (feat. Peter Rosenberg)

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

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Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it.

And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. Peter Rosenberg is going to join us here momentarily to talk ostensibly about Oscars but I also want to talk some basketball with him and Roy give me the stat of the day music please because I'm just gonna put something on the screen here and I'm gonna get Peter Rosenberg's instant reaction as someone who's loved sports for a long time to give me like 30 seconds on the stat I'm gonna put in front of him right now. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day.

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When he mastered basketball and shot like 58% from the field because he just mastered the entirety of the sport. The stat in front of you right now has his lines from the 2012-2013 MVP with Miami and it also has his statistics since turning 40 years old. And since turning 40 years old, all the stats, except for, you know, 3 tenths of a point scoring, all of the stats are better now than they were his 2012, 2013 MVP season. So, Peter, mastery and the highest form of art

or science has made it so 40 year olds can be better than they've ever been. I'll go with a healthy combination of both, but I think it is more mastery for LeBron James. I mean, the fact of the matter is if LeBron wasn't the nice guy that he is and sort of the regular human being like if he was a freakish monster a competitive lunatic I think people would be a lot more Comfortable putting him in the in the conversation for goat I really think that's his biggest flaws that people don't think he's a killer because you look at the numbers and they're just it's absolutely Insane the thing I wanted to talk to you about because this was something I saw over the weekend It legitimately made me sad about the era that he plays in because he is articulating at the end of what is a

Majestic run of greatness through the sports argument culture. He's saying yeah, you don't want to be the face of the NBA Why would you want to be the face? Why would you want to be me? No, you don't want to be me everybody's just a shit on you all the players today are gonna show on you uh... you don't want to be the social media star face of the nba cuz you're gonna all of a sudden go from that you used to get nothing but applause before you did that television show to now you're something that exists as a you're not great enough and less than human on the internet so you explain to me peter why lebron james would be saying out

loud at forty you don't want to be the face of the NBA, not the way we talk about the NBA today. It's the exact thing that I just said. It's because he's not that dude. Like he is not a killer. You know, that is, that was not a Kobe or Jordan thing to say. That was a LeBron James thing to say, which is basically to admit he is a sensitive human being. He gets bothered when people he respects from the game,

former players have criticisms of the guys who run this league now or the faces of this league. I think it bothers him. And I think that is exactly what separates him. Kobe would have been a middle fingers up. Of course, I'm the face of this league. And if you have a problem with the league, F you or I agree with you, we do need to fix this league and that's not LeBron's style. So I really do see it as sort of the same thing. I didn't love the response from LeBron because although

I do think LeBron is one of the greatest players who's ever lived. I do think his friendly approach is one of the things that people don't love about this version of the league. Didn't he also say like, I didn't ask for any of this in the same quote? He did. I think that's what he did. Yeah, it's like, A, why would he ask for it? I didn't ask for it.

I was just given this. But at the same time, as I'm saying the things that I'll point out as flaws about LeBron James, a lot of the arrows that LeBron takes, Dan, no one knows this any better than you, he takes them because of who he is and the issues he's decided to stand for off the court as well. Like, just like I said, Michael Jordan was the killer on the floor. Michael also said Republicans buy sneakers. He didn't stand for anything whereas lebron james has been so hated by people on the right that they think he made up racial slurs and put

them on his uh... date so we can't ignore that part of the criticism criticism with lebron is that he has stood for things at times that a certain sector the population doesn't want to hear about before we get to the oscars i will tell you and i don't know if mike ryan hides from this i would not blame him if he did uh... for the first time in fifteen years uh... miami is getting punched in the face with the idea that the nicks are better ever since playing the miami heat in the playoffs

when jaylen brunson wasn't good enough and clearly not good enough for the jimmy butler heat what you've seen happen over the last couple of years is the Knicks have surpassed the Heat so much so that last night when scoring gets hard what happens to the Heat always happens to the Heat late and the Knicks run away with the game and have now won eight of their last ten against the Miami Heat because they're clearly better than the Miami Heat. Nobody would dispute that. It is a sword that hurts to put down because it's not something that's been so for 15 years. I don't even have a callous built up for it

because really there was a brief moment in time for about two years where the Knicks were reminding the Heat in the playoffs that they were better than them and then my entire adult life has been charmed with the fact that I've known the Miami Heat are way better than that New York Knicks franchise and more illustrious when it comes to the game's history than that franchise. I don't like the smile on Rosenberg's face right now. It bothers me. I mean, if he's a Knicks guy, he also knows that they

haven't accomplished anything. The only thing that they've accomplished is letting Miami know that they are now better than them, which is, you know, kudos to them, not often. No, no, listen, I'm not, I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm a Celtics fan who just covers the Knicks every day. I will say it is I do get pleasure from seeing you guys down bad. That's what I'm saying. Yes, that's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter whether you're a New York guy or a Boston guy. The smile on your face, it bothers me. It bothers me. No, no, no. I get it because you guys are one of those franchises. Like, I don't know how much you fully appreciate it that you guys are like the San Francisco 49ers or the Golden State Warriors or the Yankees. You are perpetually good.

Like, you may not win the title every year, but you are always there. And so, yeah, seeing you guys down bad a little bit Especially knowing it's gonna last for about eight seconds before you get one piece Injected in that team and Spalster has you winning another title? I'm enjoying it a tad anyway last night the Knicks do that and yet what I was watching over the weekend from Cleveland in Boston I see that Boston gets 60 from Tatum and Brown no poor Zengis. No drew a holiday They're up 25 3 and Tatum's walking off the Porzingis, no Drew Holliday. They're up 25-3 and Tatum's walking off the court telling the Cavs, F out of here, and then they lose the game because Cleveland's really good. And Cleveland all regular season has been better than the champions.

Cleveland is so crazy that Cleveland is this good. It's a fun conversation to have. When was there, if they were to win the title, when was there a less sexy championship team than the 2025 Cleveland Cavaliers? Like on paper, there is nothing to sell about this team. I mean, you could try to sell Donovan Mitchell. I don't know how much you're gonna sell to the American people, but they are just that good. Like that is a well-coached, phenomenal basketball team.

And even as a Celtics fan, I'm so curious to see what they bring in the playoffs. And frankly, not thrilled about the idea of a seven game series with the Cleveland Cavaliers. I feel like most people would tell you last year's Celtics were not that sexy. Oh, well, guess what? They would be lying, because that Celtics team at least

has two dynamic stars. You're a liar. Don't tell him what's sexy. I know what sexy is. Excuse me. Look at me. No, I know what sexy is. Excuse me. Look at me. No, you don't. I know.

Listen, I think Tatum's a sexy player. Tatum and Brown are both sexy. Chris Stapps has a little sex appeal. Oh, get out of here. Go three deep on Cleveland and talk to me about sex appeal. Oh, Al Horford. Al Horford is sexy. The Dominicano.

OK, I'll give you Al Horford. By the way, you have a beautiful transition to the Oscars from Al Horford right to Zoe Zeldanya. It's sitting right there for you. Well, go ahead. Here, you're our Oscars expert here. Greg Cody's got a lot of opinions too, but you're coming in to talk some Oscars with

us. What are you doing? What are you backing away from the microphone for? Well, listen, I don't know how I'm an Oscars expert. I have one particularly strong take about the Oscars cuz to me the true theater that happened this weekend Was John Cena turning heel in WWE that to me was more theater than I got from the best from the best picture winner I I Listen, we have a lot of things that have us down bad as a nation a lot of things have us down bad

Friday was a true true low point. However Anora was best picture. Like it was a nice movie. It was like, Oh, where is this going? Okay. I love seeing random things about like Russian spots and sheep said Bay Brooklyn. This is cool. Very Brooklyn-y fun movie strip clubs. It's best picture. Did that happen? It happened while I was sleeping. That actually happened, right? Yeah. It's best picture? Did that happen? It happened while I was sleeping. That actually happened, right? Yeah, I guess it just may indicate

that it's a down year for films, like critically acclaimed films, your traditional Oscar winners last year was such a loaded category, that maybe you could pluck three of those films that were nominated last year and say they could have very easily won this year. Well, yeah, because last year,

at least you have multiple movies. Oppenheimer, whether it's your cup of tea or not, you know it's sort of Oscar's ilk same with killers of the flower moon American fiction like very sort of Oscar II movies and I guess you're right the category this year when you see respectfully when you see Dune Part two you thinking Let's be honest when you see part two in the best picture short of the godfather It's an odd thing to see but yeah I just know part of me thought a Nora two in the best picture? Short of Godfather, it's an odd thing to see. But yeah, I just, no part of me thought

Enora was winning best picture. The performances were great. I just didn't think it was that great a film, though I'm not exactly sure where you go with that category this year. Put it on the poll at LeBataard Show, is part two ever Oscar worthy? Because he brings up a good point.

The Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers. Godfather 2. Godfather. But he just mentioned something something the return of the king won best picture Okay, I stand corrected then fine stop shouting at me. I believe fallout was the seventh in the series Six because it was part seven part one. Okay, I got it James Bond 25 good film and I was the one That's not going to win that james bond is not everyone of one of the oscars i don't believe in a lot of people that way okay thank you

uh... i don't understand what it is that you're going to your problem that you have for personal so much it's kind of dominated that category i'm going to know if you there are like a lot of really good movies but compared to like an op in hy, which was, you know, outstanding acting, great editing, you know, Hall of Fame director and Christopher Nolan, they literally made a bomb and blew it up. Like there wasn't a film like that in the best picture category this year, but there were a lot of really good movies that I saw that I liked a lot. I would have, I, it wasn't going to ever win in that category, but I

would have liked to have seen, I'm still here potentially win that award. I thought Conclave was really good. But yeah, Nora was a solid movie. I think people that watch it would like it but it doesn't maybe totally hold up to a best picture win but I mean maybe it was the best one this year. I had trouble here and this is a delayed penalty for Greg Cody. Minor penalty, two minutes for adding nothing. You were not useful there, so please leave the room for two minutes. I got so much to say about the movies. Okay, but please go say it elsewhere, but I will say that what Peter has brought up here, he's the voice of WWE's newest series, WWE Evolve.

It starts March 3rd on Tubi. You were saying, because you're here to promote that, wrestling is having a real moment with the streaming services and being able to make content for a lot of different people that's evolving the sport on two fronts. What's this project you're involved with? So Evolve starts on Wednesday on Tubi,

and basically it's the new show to expose people to new talent. So because Smackdown and Raw are so big and now the third show NXT is a really big show with big stars on it as well. And because to your point, Dan, the product's doing so well, they started this new show on 2B to expose new talent to the world, the future stars of the company. And yeah, I'm super stoked because just as like every other kid who grew up being like, I want to be Gorilla Monsoon and just pretended to do play-by-play. I am very excited about my first play-by-play gig in any capacity.

That starts on Wednesday. And Dan, I have to tell you, we both know a lot of people who do play-by-play. You know, I was with Michael K. for nearly a decade. There's something about doing play-by-play that you're calling real action in the ring, but it's also a land of pretend that makes it a fascinating and difficult job that I did not imagine. It is not only difficult,

it's also wondrous to hear you, a grown man, say we all grew up wanting to be Gorilla Monsoon. I know I did. Dan, we've counted at least five Academy Awards at the 007 franchise has won. We correctly picked out that they dominated the best original song. That's where at least three of these five came from. But Goldfinger won best sound effects

and Thunderball won best visual effects. So it is a tried and true Academy Award winner franchise. They have 19 nominations, six wins over their entire franchise. Have they won any of the big awards? Well, I mean, the Academy Awards. What are you talking about? Best sound effects. They're all big.

Visual effects. Is Thunderball sharks with lasers on their heads? Is it? Solid win. I hope it is. Is Thunderball at Levitard Show sharks with lasers on their heads? I don't like how Dan's just casually doing this interview.

Peter even cracked the door open a little bit. There was a seismic decision made creatively by the WWE. Huge. And it is one of the biggest heel turns in the history of the business, dating back to when Hulk Hogan was revealed to be Hollywood Hulk Hogan, the third man in the NWO. That's how big this is.

John Cena, for the first time since he became a champion babyface in the early 2000s, has turned heel during what is supposed to be his final run with the WWE. It is a where were you type of moment. The earth stood still, Peter. What is your take on this? No, it was sitting there. It was one of the craziest things I've ever seen. It was the magic of why people like us love this business so much. I mean, respectfully, I love competitive sports, but ultimately in competitive sports, there can just be duds on the biggest stages. And this was a moment where like because WWE is what it is, you can creatively come up with the coolest thing ever.

And somehow, as much as all of us have always sort of dreamed about the idea of heel John Cena, it just didn't feel on the table. And then to see The Rock give the throat slash and Cena turn on Cody. No, the earth stood still. My world ended for a moment. It was crazy. How old are you? I'm 45 years old, Dan.

Okay. Just making sure because Gorilla Monsoon is not someone we all grew up admiring, although you and I are those people. I don't think anyone else here. Tony, tell me everything you know about Gorilla Monsoon. Well, Dan, Gorilla Monsoon, of course, an incredible play-by-play guy for the wrestling Federation. Sounds like it lives in the sharknado film universe. It sounds like a movie that's great by the way.

Gorilla Monsoon. Man, that's something up your alley. It's not a monsoon of gorillas. That's right. We're gonna go to Greg Cody in a second here, but another door that Peter cracked open. What happened Friday, like where we're in bed with Russia. Bigger heel turn than Sena.

That's what he cracked the door open on. On what happened on Friday in America, where we disgraced ourselves to the nation in the White House. Honestly, that's just 24 hours before John Cena turned heel. Like in terms of size make events, I think we can get through Friday. To not be an ally to a nation under siege

to do that press conference. And with that knowledge, John Cena still in Canada, north of the border, turned on the American nightmare Cody Rhodes. Well, by the way, you have to be clear, Dan. We didn't just turn on Ukraine, because I mean, come on, what Americans care about Ukraine? They don't go visit Kyiv for the holidays. We also ostensibly turned heel on all of Western Europe, all of the places that you do like to

visit, all of the places that everybody likes to go ham. We basically held up a middle finger to all of them. We also turned our backs to C nation and hundreds, thousands of make a wish kids that have had their wish fulfilled by John Cena. And you got to, you're going, you're going Cena over, yes, over the American heel turn on Ukraine. You think Cena was even bigger? Again, I think that we can dig ourselves out of what

happened on Friday. There's no coming back for John Cena. Do you think he turns heel on Make-A-Wish? Like, I'm too busy. Absolutely not. No, no, like, dance. I'm too busy. Those are the kids.

Can't do this. The children are our future. Before we go to Greg Cody, can you see in your corner your former partner of 10 years, Michael K., did you know he could dance like that? Were you aware that Michael K. was such a good dancer? By the way, never in my life had I seen those moves from him and to know that that is in fact authentically him

regardless of what he says, to me it's a miracle and I'm upset, you know, Dan I got married two years ago, he was there, I didn't see one of these moves. Peter, we confirm that this is him, he's denying it to everybody but Michael K is a known liar on this front. He's always wanted to dance like this and only in the privacy of an elevator uh... you and i have confirmed that this is indeed michael k

confirmed awful announcing printed that is michael k thank you he's been trying to disguise it for a long time let's go out to greg kody and get all his oscar takes uh... uh... what do you laugh about kody uh... that's gotta be a i write that cannot be no it's michael k we confirmed it okay his Oscar takes. What are you laughing about Cody? That's got to be AI right? That cannot be. No it's Michael K. We've confirmed it. Okay. I have a question for Peter if he hasn't gone yet. I'm here. The jukebox in the back is that a working jukebox and if it is I wonder if you have queued up Shirley Bassey's gold finger.

That would work well that is a 1961 fully operational 1961 Rocco Larigis and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. out there with a George. Does he go black George says he wears black shorts. I think black George would be the place to go. I'd love to see him in a suit, but my guess is he'll somehow just still wear the same stuff because he has like 35 dates and I feel like the t-shirts are printed for every city. John Cena has to go to you. You're going to hold do a whole new thing. Now. I don't know if you can. You got to heal the shirts up too. Instead of never give up. It's just going to be give up. I would love that. No turn, turn heel, you know you know be a turncoat I would love to see that he should absolutely do something like well you can see me now you never were actually able to see me before no you didn't want to see me now you can fight now you have to see whoa Peter let's write this stuff good shit bro Peter I have a question

that might sound insulting, but I don't mean it to be. Do you consider yourself a journalist? No. Okay, then nevermind. Would you bang my- No, no, I wanna know what the follow-up was gonna be, Billy. I wanna know what the follow-up was gonna be.

Please, Mark. Yeah, well, so Dan is having a moral conundrum here because he was invited by the Panthers to bang the drum before the Panthers game today, but he thinks that his journalistic integrity is gonna get in the way of him participating and banging the drum to say, let's go Panthers. So we're trying to help him through this conundrum

as the show goes on today. No, Dan should not do it. Dan should not do it. If Dan was a yo-yo like myself or Don LaGreca, we go do it. Actually, I wouldn't even put Don in that category. I would do it because I'm a yo-yo. Just give me free tickets and I'm there Dan has made a career of

Being higher brow. He can't bang a drum at a panther game for God's sake. It's beneath him. No, it isn't Jack Nicklaus did it Dan Marino did it the very top of the profession. Yeah, yeah, they're not journalists. This is the most reasonable mind in all of sports broadcasts I guarantee you, Eudonnis has probably written something more recently than Dan. I'm gonna find a Players Tribune article to back this up. I'm torn. I don't know what I'm gonna do. Let's go to Greg Cody. Peter, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it. I should tell the people that it's not just, because he's got a lot of shows, it's not just to be and the voice of the WWE's newest series WWE evolve

He's also on Don Hahn and Rosenberg weekdays from 3 to 7 p.m. On ESPN radio, New York and he's co-host in the morning This is insane. What are you doing? Weekdays from 5 to 10 on I have a six-week old by the way I'm gonna need how many hours a day are you on the air? It's too much. What are you doing? I'm trying to get out I'm trying to I'm trying to get out listen. You're doing ten hours a day. We're doing the opposite of kidding Guys he's doing the right thing trust me as as the father of an eight-week old He's doing the right thing get out there go make your money go do your thing PR Hold on when you say you're trying to get out do you mean get out of the house?

your thing PR. Hold on when you say you're trying to get out do you mean get out of the house? Yes, absolutely. One of these things has to go. It just hasn't happened yet. It's going to happen. Thank you Peter. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Okay check this. Deli boys on Hulu. Two brothers, Raj and Neer are living the high life. Not a care in the world. When their old man dies it all vanishes and they find out he didn't just own a deli, but he was a drug kingpin! And they're like, what the? Throw in their ruthless aunt, some guys who want to kill them, and keeping dad's drug business going. Sounds amazing, right? Deli Boys premieres March 6th, streaming on Hulu. Listen boys, we gotta talk about Jägermeister.

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We're going to get that off the ground. WorldRar3 colon. Our group chat has a pretty good feeling about this one. This is the Dunn-Levatar Show with the Stugats. I am getting non-stop texts from David Samson here infuriated that Peter Rosenberg was our Oscars expert today and not him in the admin. He called Conan Conan. Like, what's the deal with that? And where am I going to go with Samson

as it pertains to C nation? A nation left in tatters. Greg Cody, I am torn because it's not just. I got him. It's not just that Greg Cody and Peter Rosenberg are asking me to uphold some long ago tattered journalism standard. It's that the rest of you, the younger people,

disagree vehemently that that's a thing that should be protected. You're not an active journalist anymore. I've actually gone through it. Jack Nicholas, Eudonnis Haslam, and Raheem Moser have all written more recently than you have. Well, it's not the same as journalism, though. But I think it's less that there should be a wallop

between journalists and banging the drum. It's more so that if there were a wallop, you'd be on the drum side these days. So what do I do? Because I'd rather be on the other side. I don't actually want to do this. And it's not even- Why not?

It's a great honor. I will tell you- Why are you saying it's not a great honor? They don't just do this willy nilly. They're all people like Olympic gold medalists. They're all people of repute. He led the league in Russian touchdowns one year. Like everybody has something impressive on their resume that has done that.

Relationship building, Dan. He had 18, I don't need that far away laughter from Cody. All right, look, Mostard had 18 touchdowns in a season, deserved to bang the drum. The reason that I'm questioning the honor that it is, is because I think my resume is the text that I got, which is, hey, when we introduce you,

how do we do so by nationality? And so I'm being honored here, I believe, simply for being Cuban American on Vamos Gatos night, when I say the punctuation on vamos gatos is incorrect It feels like pandering vamos gatos is something that we're more likely to say in the house as Hispanic people To get the cats out of the house not into our embrace vamos gatos. I'm being used as a symbol here It's not merely the cheerleading part of it. It's a hey go out there and be Hispanic I think vamos gatos is let's go cats.

Yeah. So I think that's it. The only thing that isn't actually grammatically correct is a lack of comma. There's no comma there. But vamos gatos, let's go cats is, yes, literally translated. But if any of us were to say it in the house,

it would largely be to get the cats out of the house. Vamos gatos is not. Like veten gatos, like get out of here cats. That would be better as well, yes. I think you should look at it as even a bigger honor because out of all the Hispanic leaders in this community that have the reputation that would recommend they take part in this great honor, you're a topic.

Yeah, why'd they pick you? They could pick anyone to pander, they picked you to pander. Like normally this is an Emilio Stefan lane. Yeah, well'd they pick you? They could pick anyone to pander, they picked you to pander. I'm sure Ron. Normally this is an Emilio Stefan lane. Yeah, well, we don't know who said no. In fact, I'm gonna text Ron. Ron probably said no. Ron McGill definitely said no. Well, he definitely said no to coming to this

because my wife invited his wife to come to it and they're busy. So he... Classic. All right, look, Greg, what's going on, Greg? I'm enjoying the show. Somebody says something funny, I laugh. All right, but what are you laughing at going on, Greg? I'm enjoying the show. Somebody says something funny. I laugh.

All right, but what are you laughing at specifically because you're my greatest critic here. Yeah. Well, you are doing journalism right now to put a microscope on the validity of the actual phrase Vamos Gatos. So that's journalism. I think before you bang the drum, you should give a little tutorial to the Journalism I think before you bang the drum you should give a little tutorial to the to the 15,000 fans gathered They're getting ready to cheer. Let's go Panthers because you need to instruct them You need to be informative you need to bring out all of your Hispanic knowledge of the language and

Learn people you know they don't want to learn they don't want to earn you got to teach he's right about that Yeah, so do you chant also you just hit the drum? Learn people, you know, they don't want to learn. They don't want to earn. You got to teach. He's right about that. Yeah. So do you chant also or you just hit the drum? I don't want to do any of it guys. Coca Cola. Well, no, it's Hispanic heritage. So you would, I guess you don't say let's go Panthers. No, you say,

Vamo's got those. So you say, Let's get Cody. Oh, I know what you should do. You should bring your dad as like a sort of meat shield. He's more famous anyways Don't do that. Don't do that. You've done that move way too much That's why you gotta take this one on the chin. It's a winning move. That's your move

It's a winning move. It's about relationship building after all He's no longer a television personality. You're no longer a journalist Geez Wow harsh still a voter though. I think I still am a journalist right up until I bang the drum. I think you definitely discredited yourself long before that. I think when you attacked Rob Manfred, it was kind of writing pretty much there. Even back then it was like awfully convenient. All right, right. Quarterly. I'm scared of this for a number of different reasons. Here's one of them.

The last time the last time I tried to get a chant off the ground at the Food and Wine Festival, it went like this. Coca-Cola, can I get a Coca-Cola? Coca-Cola! Coca-Cola! Yeah, this is why you should be saying no to it. There is no doubt in my mind, whatever is asked of you, and I think it's very little, you're going to be very bad at it.

I don't know. Yeah, you're going to be awkward, clumsy. It's going to be terrible. Well, this is why I don't want to do it. I know this too. I want to shroud it in journalistic integrity of some sort. That feels better, but I'm scared of the whole thing. You're gonna be awkward, you're gonna be off beat,

it's just gonna be a bad look for you. I do enthusiasm poorly. I do, I, public, public, yeah, public enthusiasm. Jessica, why are you cringing face? I do public performative enthusiasm poorly. Cause I'm picturing it, it's not, have you practiced? It's repressed.

What if you get booed? Also, like that far north, are you aware of what they think of us? Like you're not going to get cheered pal. I know that's what, this is why it's easier to avoid it. It's easier to just say- But you're not trying to avoid it. You're trying to put it down.

Like you're too cool for school. Like it's not some great honor, which it is. In fact, if you do a great job, they might invite you back because everyone's going to be like, remember all that juice, levitard, hat, yeah, let's go. You have exposed me before all. I am vulnerable. I am splayed open before everybody. I don't want to do this because I'm afraid of it.

I don't want to do this because it's wrong. Only reason I want to do it is because Mike Roy and Chris Cody say I should and that I must say that I must. It's a great honor. Yeah, absolutely. Defending Stanley Cup champion. You only want him to do it because then you, there's like a 0% chance if he doesn't do it,

you get to do it. And maybe like a 1% chance if he gets to do it that one day you'll get to do it. I am not worthy, though I am more of a journalist than Dan. Billy. Billy. Jalen Ramsey did it.

He's not a journalist. Billy, what do you vote here? Like if we, is anyone coming with me if I decide to do this? In the helicopter? Absolutely not. And by the way, BT Dubbs a little offended the McGills were asked.

I'm gonna be there regardless. Being a journalist. Roy, would you do it if you were asked? Of course I would. Well, hold on a second. And he's an actual journalist. Roy's an active journalist. Wait,, but Roy you were just saying last week How you would never wear panthers stuff to a panthers game

So are you gonna do it like a button-down shirt cuz that's too far of a line across but you'll bang the drum exactly I'll be wearing what I'm wearing right now. Well. No you got a personalized jersey. Yeah, Dan You should do it just for that you get a free jersey out of it. I don't want a free jersey Why not? You're gonna have to upset her. It's comfortable. You'll get it. It'll be a number one jersey with Levitard on the back. No, she passed for 305. Yeah, did they ask you your number?

Big jersey. Jalen Ramsey was number five. I'm really torn on this. You should be. I don't, well, you say I should be, you don't think I should be. You think this is an easy call. Well, look, okay, first of all,

the Panthers are too polite to Have told you this, but you're auditioning okay if you blow it Then you'll never be heard from again in that arena if you're pretty good They might in fact you invite you back for the playoffs if you bang the drum in the playoffs Then you've arrived, but it's it's an all-lose situation for you You know everything could go wrong you could be offbeat on the drum. You know instead of chanting Let's go Panthers are gonna chant Coca-Cola the whole thing could be it could be end up being a nightmare I was really worried. How's practice? How is he so much better in the other room?

Vamos got those you think they're gonna ask me to chant? Get the stadium to start chanting that. Vamos gatos. Well, the drum does it. Like, they may do. Do you not know what you're doing with the drum? I have a vague, faint idea. I also don't know the tradition of the drum. I don't know any of the history of the drum. Billy, please.

Billy, Mark, Mark, tell me all about it, Mark. So they say, let's go, Panthers, and then you do the clap, clap, clap, clap,'s the four do you know that you don't know the beat that you're supposed to be drumming to I've seen Mike McDaniel do it poorly I've seen Jack Nicklaus do it Mike McDaniel did not do a poor little thing Mike McDaniel did it poorly then you should say no because I'm gonna be bad at this and that's the only reason oh my god I might have to actually watch the Panthers game tonight Dan Marino did it poorly I'm sorry it bad at this and that's the only reason. Oh my God, I might have to actually watch the Panthers game tonight.

Dan Marino did it poorly, I'm sorry. It wasn't Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel did it very well because he reared back and really sold it. You gotta eat it up. This is an incredible moment. Again, they don't do this before every game. They only do this when they have a celebrity big enough

in a game that's big enough that you have to have a super famous celebrity to come up there and meet that moment and get the people crazy. Tony, your opinion and Billy's opinion. And Jessica, I'm not sure, I mean, I feel like you've said I should not do this. You're alone in that room and saying that I should not do this.

I think that you should just do it because your job falls more in line with entertainment than journalism these days. Yeah. Heel turn, Dan Lebatard. Wow, end of career heel turn. Yep. You should do this because the doubts that we have in this

is not journalism, ethics, no, no, no. I just don't think you're socially adept at all. Yeah, you're bringing the wrong energy. At your age, you need to prove the doubters wrong. You need to be able to hit the drum on a particular cadence and get an arena full of people saying, let's go Panthers. If you're not able to clear this very low bar, then we all need to take a look at ourselves.

Yeah. Has to be just right. The timing you can't be an iota off has to be perfect. Or else an arena full of people is going to hoot and howl at your expense. If it's not perfect. Or else an arena full of people is gonna hoot and howl at your expense if it's not perfect. I am going to decide what to do with the rest of my career based on your ability or lack thereof to nail the cadence of a let's go Panthers drum beat. No pressure Dan. This is look I'm under I've told you I don't know how often this has happened before in our past, I am speaking most honestly to you right now.

I don't want to do this, and the reason I don't want to do it is because I am simply splayed out in front of you 100% afraid of it. Yeah, stop saying splayed, it's gross. I don't know why. When it's gross. It's an HR thing. Also, you're gonna do the drum part of In the Air Tonight.

I just know it. You're gonna screw this all up. Why did you just say no? Just tell him no, then. It's too late. He's trying to think of a good excuse to tell them no now, but it's too late. You've already said you're gonna do it.

I have not committed. No, that's not in any way true. I don't know I'm going to do it. Okay, well, this is very rude to our friends over at the Florida Panthers. If they're watching this, you're gonna get a call shortly saying hey guess what friend you're not doing Look, no, wait a minute. You guys misunderstood. No, you guys misunderstood what I brought in here. No, absolutely You've got this wrong. I have not decided what I'm doing here. That's that's awful last night That's really terrible. I like Chris

here. That's awful. Last night. That's really terrible. Roy, Chris, Roy and Chris, and Mike, I think you abstained, but Roy and Chris were adamant that this is something I must do and I'm like, I must do it. Why must I do this? I don't think that they really analyze how much this can affect their careers negatively if you go out there and embarrass yourself. I realized it and I'm telling you that I'm filing it under a bunch of other stuff but i'm afraid of it as well like we can talk about journalists i'd love my side love to put myself in the cloak of journalism splayed out or not and say i'm not doing this because i'm a journalist i cannot do that

i'm afraid of blowing this moment because i do not have the rhythm the confidence or the enthusiasm for it that you need to have That Roy would have if he was given this opportunity that drum would have no shot again The lightning the bolts Dan come on man I have envisioned a scenario where I hit it so hard the first time that it flies out of my hand because I have not practiced. Oh my god, and then it hits a player and then the game gets postponed. Or the veteran.

Oh, it's a World War II veteran. Oh no. Yeah, the 100 year old guy, they wheel out every game. Yeah, Dan, that's a thing. I don't know if you know this, a Panthers game, they do bring out like a vet and you have to like, stand, tip your cap to the vet, applause. The older the better.

Do that, are you gonna do that? Just so you know, it's your cap to the vet, applause. The older the better, do that. Are you gonna do that? Just so you know, it's when they play, we could be heroes. Yeah, and if they're cheering, if people are standing and cheering, you didn't hear why, it's probably a vet, not you. And you gotta say red. You don't say knight anymore, cause we traded him.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh man, that's gonna be the first game. That's gonna be the first, oh, can we say knight? No, can you say knight to honor him? Be on your best behavior. Did you know we traded for Seth Jones? That's a big trade we for Seth Jones? Popeye Jones's son is now a Florida Panther. How about that? Greg did you know that Popeye Jones's kid is a Florida Panther? That's exciting. Well you know you know Puck.

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