The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Great Soup Cook-Off of 2025

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

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Mike Ryan is in position. Greg Cody is indignant that he's never won one of these. Greg Cody is also very confident about being able to beat Mike Ryan in the soup off. Mike Ryan, and I should say this more often than I do, The ELSA has been a really spectacular sponsor and partner on everything we do here. And Mike Ryan is presently in one of their rooms, which has a kitchen. This place is always sold out with people coming from all over the world because they want to see the views off the bay. And right now, Jeremy Tashay is in the kitchen with Mike.

But, Billy, why are you making faces? Well, I mean, we're having a competition, and it seems as though one competitor may have an advantage, at least in terms of time, because I see the other competitors still sitting here. So I don't know if the fix is in or what's going on here, but one person seems to be cooking while the other one seems to be here, which would appear to the untrained diet as a disadvantage to one. Well, Billy, indignant on behalf of Greg Cody. How is it a disadvantage for Greg? I mean, have you ever watched a cooking show, a baking show?

Do they say, you know what, contest number two? You go sit over here in the corner for a second. I'll give someone else a head start. Have you watched a race? Have you heard of the Olympics? Does someone get a head start in the Olympics? No. I've never watched cooking show because I don't care about

cooking shows. Do you eat? How do you live? Sustinance, ever heard of it? Common sense would tell me that Greg is sitting here and he gets to watch what Mike is doing or not doing, and that's an advantage for Greg. Let me ask something. You like hockey when the Panthers are good, right? What does that do with cooking? I'm just, you have a simple mind, so I'm trying to explain it in terms you understand. Go on. You like hockey when the Panthers are good. Have you ever seen a hockey game where the Panthers are still on the bench and they give the puck to the other team and they say, you go and you play around with it a little bit first. Okay, you know what, you say, you know what, this is actually a great advantage for the Panthers

because they get to see what the devils are doing. You know hockey has a clock, right? Yeah, so does cooking. Is there a clock in the soup competition we're doing? Cook, it has a stove has a clock. You put something in. You say 400 degrees, 25 minutes. How are you alive?

Let me know where the clock is. Billy ain't wrong. Thank you, Greg. Billy ain't wrong. Mike has an appreciable head start here, but you know what? My confidence is supreme like Diana. Ross, my confidence is supreme. So I'm not worried about it, but Billy ain't wrong. Okay, but what Billy has done here is now, as if I don't, haven't lost enough manpower here. The fix is in.

He sent you out of the room when I still have to do, as Zaslo pointed out, to all involved, hey, this is live. We do the, not a whole lot of people do this kind of stuff or try this stuff live. That's right. Because there are dangers in doing it live, but go ahead, Greg, I don't need you anymore. I did want to have a dolphin discussion with you that I think is the last remaining one that is interesting that takes this all one notch further. Go ahead. Billy has been making fun of me

okay because and he's been making fun of me for now years about this because the Tua thing with the head stuff is so unprecedented. Troy Aikman just did the documentary here where he says he doesn't remember playing in the NFC championship game because we were so

primitive at one time that he had four concussions in 14 months and he just doesn't even remember playing in the game. The thing that this game has that none of the other games have on top of laughing stock and you thought the Patriots look back yeah they did but the dolphins are the one that everyone's laughing at this is what is being said I became a doctor on television like I'm interviewing the thing that billy's been making fun of me about is that we immediately got out of bed in the middle of the night I'm live interviewing the doctor some wrestler well well Chris Nguinsky yeah oh my god this guy sits

Thanks around, weights to pounce on head injuries. Guys, honestly, hoping for head injuries, so someone can go talk to him. That's what it seems like. If we're honest, he's hoping for concussion. He watches sports hoping for head injuries. Exactly right. Yes, he does. As soon as someone goes down, he goes, ha, ha, ha, ha, and he starts doing that thing, that

thing with the little fingers that he goes like this, Zaz is right. I'm with you, man. Or he does the thing with his pinkies like this. I envision him doing this. He goes, like gargamel. Another one for me. Okay, totally unfair to him. I like him, but Billy's been making fun of me.

Yeah, you would. I got to talk to him now and bring him on so we can ask him Why do you have to? Because I was supposed to make it's a long story I owe him one because because I WrestleMania tickets or something Look the head injury stuff Can Mike not open a microwave?

The head injury stuff Oh he's setting a timer what's that a clock in a kitchen? Is that cheating with a microwave? Oh my God, he's taking a shortcut Let's go to Jeremy here Mike Ryan using a microwave Oh my god look at that I see a Campbell's can right there

This isn't even something he made. Get caught up. Go ahead. Go in the other room and get caught up. Is it fair? Yes. Go do the soup thing.

Jeremy, talk to us. What's going on here with Mike in this microwave? We are on site at the great soup cookoff of 2025. Mike Ryan here getting everything situated. Mike Ryan, can you walk us a little bit through your process here? Yeah, my process is to challenge the palate, make you think differently about soup,

and also get the hell out of my kid. Get out of the way. get out of the way so there's a little bit of frustration by the man here he's looking to be the super star roses in the way as well this is not good yes chef too many cooks in the kitchen the camera angles are jeremy yeah like everyone you're you're surrounded by people who are having trouble getting the right camera angles all right he's at work i have no control over the camera angles jeremy i just heard mike say i think gregg was right about the peppers so maybe there's something going on there uh jeremy

go ahead and just give me whatever update I need on. He's doing this live now. When is this all going to be ready? How soon can we go to people tasting soup? Are we going to be able to do that soon? I would assume we'll be able to get to it soon. I'll ask Mike Ryan here. Mike, I don't want to be too many cooks in the kitchen here,

but I will ask you about what time are we going to be able to taste here during this cookoff? Typically, I like to have my soup settle for about two days. That's why I get so many compliments on it, as the flavors blend together, so I'm guessing sometime by Friday. All right, on Friday, during the local hour, we will be able to taste Mike Ryan's soup. Greg Cody, I imagine, as he heads up here, won't have as much attention to detail, but I know that he will be competing with a fierce effort. We have the challenger, we have the initial competitor.

This is the great soup cook-off. All right, we can fade him now. Stop talking. Palet. You can't give him a microphone. It's such douchy lingo. It's the worst. Like, I don't know. How do we break him of the habit of being sideline broadcaster guy who uses 70 words where he could use seven?

Like, how do we do it? How do we do it? Help me do it. I don't think we can. I think me and Zaz are more complaining about just cooking lingo in general. It's just, it's so much. Oh, I got, I like the flavor on the palate. The top of my tongue.

I just talk normal. Taste. It's called taste. Oh, I let my soup sit for two days. Yo, two-day-old food is gross. Cook your shit? Let me taste it. Exactly right. Uber Eats. Ever heard of it?

Get that food in 30 minutes. I have to wait two days. It's insane. Chris, is your dad going to lose a fourth one of these on his birthday? Like, we might have to rig this thing because the coconut milk is more delicious than anything. And that's like cheating. There's no way your dad's soup is going to be good as coconut milk soup. We should discuss how we're going to, like, judge this. Now, obviously, you'll have a vote, Dan. Zaz, you'll have a vote.

I'm a judge. That goes that's saying. The shipping container as a whole could have the third vote or we could break it down Billy, me, and Jeremy, and that's five of us. So do you guys think it should be five people voting or the shipping container is one and then you guys, so it's best at three? How do we think we should do this? The problem is, is we know whose soup is what, because they told us what they were cooking. So we know we already have prejudice, Aziz would say. We kind of knew with the popcorn and the turkey.

Like, we've kind of always known all this stuff. No, turkey was blind. We just knew they're both cooking turkey. This one, one of them is doing something with coconut. I don't think we did it blind. Regardless, you guys can argue about this off air. Blind did the sense that you didn't know who's was what. Understood.

But again, we're down some manpower because you did this, Billy. You sent a great cut. I didn't say, let's cook today. You think I was in the, you know, on a digital, whatever computer, making that soup thing. You're talking about unfair advantages. And now all of a sudden there's two of us in here and there should have been three. That's right. How about you take a little ownership?

Do I do the scheduling around these parts? No. I'm just saying, how about you take a little ownership? Okay, fine. It's my fault that I think that we should follow the rules and people should be. Constantly saying things. and you don't care about the repercussions. How so? How so? How so?

I just explain how so. How so? There were three of us, and now there's two of us. Did I say Greg go cook today? No. You started complaining about a competition clock. I'm a man of, I don't have you ever heard of this word, integrity. And when you have a competition, people should have a level footing. Okay. So take responsibility.

Hey, how about you make the rules when your name's on the show? And it's not on the show yet, okay, bud? Jeremy's yelling. Look, who's Jeremy mad at? Chris. Why am I looking at a preview of me? Which, Jeremy, that's as pissed as I've ever seen him. What happened, Jeremy? What happened? We've got an unbelievable energy in here.

We've got a ridiculous energy. Mike is yelling, oh, God, he's frustrated. He doesn't have the type of heat he's looking for. Great, Cody. What are your thoughts on the panic that you're seeing from the other man in the kitchen? I mean, he's not disguising it. He is panicked. Does he have to be here?

He is panicked. He says the heat's not out enough. He's going to burn her on eye by the look at it. He's panicking, man. Well, he's certainly feeling the heat up here, Dan. Mike Ryan, what do you say to the accusations? that you have an unfair advantage from the beginning. It's either super hot or super cold.

I don't understand what's going on with this. So, super hot, super cold. Dan, back to you. For the love of God. Does Mike have a pack of Sigs rolled up on his sleeve? He cannot help. He cannot help. Throw it back to me in a puky broadcaster joke way.

Like, guys, how do we break him? Billy. He needs to do like morning TV, honestly. Like, Jeremy would be, like, good as, like, like a morning... Like GMA? Not even news, because I think he'd cry because his news would be too sad for him to report. Like, he needs to do, like, the local, like, Miami, whatever would be.

We have to break him of these habits. He gets into broadcaster man guy and just forgets that Billy's doing FIU games. Pause up. Oh, big week. Shoebao Week, Dan. We can get to that later. I want to get to it. Pippel was tweeting about it.

I mean, when Pipple's tweeting about it, you know there's a shift in energy. That 35-0-0-0-0-lost. invigorated this fan base. I'll tell you what. 34-0. We will go back to the Elser kitchen in a second, but the point that I was trying to... Why is Greg in the same kitchen as Mike? That does not seem like

the way cooking competitions go, because there's only one stove in there. Like, he should get to... I was trying to argue on his behalf and get him some more time. He should get to cooking. He seems to be wasting time. Imagine that. It's like almost like we planned it out where Mike would go first, then we would send my dad up there, and then the bowl soups would be ready, and then we would try it off.

And then guess what happened? Guess why? What happened? What happened? He's right behind you. Billy happened. Guess how competitions work? They cook at the same time. One goes to one kitchen, the other goes to another kitchen. I don't understand. You guys don't understand cooking competitions?

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With these two gods Can I just get back to Because I'm going to end up Owing Chris Nowitzky an apology again Because I will tell you why Because the things that he's howling On head injuries that are Super primitive and we've been primitive about covering

And now the sport is Bigger than it's ever been We enjoy it more and nobody wants to talk about concussions Of course nobody wants to talk about concussions In fact, I've told you the story before And I'm not going to moralize about this too much But the conflict of interest between John Skipper The Top of ESPN Concussion Reporting NPR

at the very end of what was happening there, at the beginning of us learning about concussions, John Skipper realized he was the conflict of interest between journalism and business, and he's like, yep, ESPN will no longer be doing the concussion reporting stuff that we're doing. I've got to back out of this. I'm the conflict, and I've got to choose business. And America's chosen business. Everywhere, America's chosen business. However, I'm not going to simply forget that two times now we've watched two, and again,

and wondered if he should stop playing. And so the conversation I wanted to have with you guys, not the best time during a cookoff, though, when Dolphins podcast are here locally, Chris Hoffman said, quote, Tua had the worst gain I've seen him have in quite a while, and it makes me wonder if the accumulation of injuries and concussions have sped him toward decline. We've generally feared it would be sudden,

one more bad hit and it's over, but it could also be more gradual than that. Everything that's happening with the Dolphins, No other team in the sport where everyone gets concussions has that as the centerpiece and what's fair and what's not fair when we're all doctors and I'm in the middle of the night calling the wrestler because I don't understand what I'm covering and he knows more about head injuries than I do. Yep, totally not fair. And with zero medical evidence from my vantage point, that right there is exactly what I think is going on with Tua. Again, no empirical data from me sitting on my couch, all right? But that right there is exactly what I'm talking about. But it's also irresponsible of a doctor to be diagnosing someone that they haven't seen.

Just saying, I think this is what's happening with no like viewing of their charts or actually seeing a person. Jeremy, do you have any thoughts here? I feel like you've been properly chastened. Oh, break me of the broadcaster habits, break you with a habit of bringing up concussions once a week. I mean, Jesus. Nice. Why are you sad? Why am I sad? Yeah. I thought you did great. Thank you. I don't think he likes when I critique his broadcastering when he goes into... Wasn't that my job? Isn't that why you sent me up there?

Yes. Yes. Do it more efficiently. Yes. It's a good pun. We have four hours a show. Yeah, we got a fill. Yeah, but we'll do it. It's fine. So you call this Chris guy at night, just you guys just talk about? In the middle of the night. In the middle of the night.

Like, hey, Chris, you remember. You know what he's wrestling was Harvard, Chris, or Chris Harvard. Yeah, he was like a douchey character. Yeah, who knew? It's kind of perfect to be our concussion expert, right? And I, and I need to, we're going to need to call him here at some point, have a conversation with him that will, that can be more fun than the ones we've been having where I ruined the fun all the time.

Fun cussions? Yes, fun cussions. But you guys are in agreement, right? when I say there haven't been this not in this town this set of chemicals around something where you're like oh my god the whole thing's gonna they can go up in flames on

Sunday if somehow they're down 17 to 3 in the first in the first half I think your Wonstet's last year where he was fired at 0 and 6 and there was that first game where he switched at halftime I forget if it was Feeley to Fiedler I think it was Fieler to Fieler to Feelech he switched

But everyone saw it and I didn't right I think that's a great example All right, but the difference between that one and this one is not only we fire on the coach, we're also getting rid of the quarterback. Like, the quarterback, by the way, who signed for whatever it was, $180 million. We've never done that combination before after one game. I mean, and by the way, a win this week against the Patriots doesn't solve any of those problems either. That's why I don't think that like the loss is what's going to be like, oh my God, they need to blow up everything.

Beating the Patriots doesn't make the team any better than they were after week one regardless. Because you know what happens? What are we talking? Five days later, they're in Buffalo. Yeah, exactly. And we all know how that's going to go. I have a way to potentially solve all of this for the future of the Dolphins, if you guys would like. But look, you need a coach that has stronger leadership skills.

You need a coach that's a little more hard-nosed, maybe defensive-oriented, because obviously the offensive thing isn't working, wants to move on from Tua. Maybe a guy who actually has coaching experience before could use a second. opportunity. I think the Dolphins should probably hire Brian Flores as their next head coach. He seems like the perfect fit. Am I wrong? No, just the joke would have been funnier as just they should hire Brian Flores next as opposed to all the preamble. He painted it though so you weren't sure who it could be because you're like, oh man, that does sound like a great qualification. Who exists out there? And boom, he nailed the dismount with Brian Flores. You know the thing about McDaniel that I think is like interesting or telling or whatever is that at the beginning everyone was like in love with

Mike McDaniel where it's like he's different oh look at this kooky guy wow he's so zane look at his shoes with tags on them and he dresses different and he's so fun and the players must love to play for him and then last year's when his schemes kind of were getting exposed where it was like oh people have figured out what he's doing and there hasn't been any evolution and then this off season is really when you started hearing from a lot of the former players, where the former players were all kind of speaking out against him. Forgive me, Billy, I'm sorry. Mike's

yelling at Greg, I'm sorry to interrupt you. It's just, they're yelling at each other. Greg, Mike, what happened? Mike, tell me what happened. Why are you yelling at Greg? I don't know. He says, do you even cook? I don't have a burger. He's dominating the stove. He's using

coconut milk by the look of it. It looks a little bit curle. I'm just saying Curdle you. Maybe it's not a curdle you. I'll tell you what, Jeremy could have helped in that situation. There seemed to be some confusion up there. I don't think they can hear what we're saying

so they don't know that we're going to them. I think Greg could, which was the problem. Ah, yeah, well, yeah. All right, let me try that again and I'll go straight to Greg. Yes, it seems like you would want Mike to produce this segment, not Greg, but good judgment on his birthday. Let's give him all the gifts. Greg, Cody, give us a report, please, on what's happening right now.

How soon will he be done? How soon will you start? I hope he's done soon because right now I'm just watching him. Chris? I'm not able to cook. Would you stop talking? Mike is in mid panic. Mike is in mid-panic.

He's still getting over, miscutting the red valve pepper. Now he's confronted... No one likes strips, Greg! No one likes strips! It's curdled coconut milk. He's using the microwave. Is this your first time using coconut milk? It's always curdled.

Is this your first time? Is it your first time? Is it your first time? It's your first time. I hope I get the soap soon. You don't need this one. Right now my worthy adversary is dominated. You pre-made your soup.

You're not an artist. You're not an artist. He pre-made his suit. They're just lashing out at each other. A little wordy. Okay. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. This fall get double points on every qualified stay.

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That man! Who the hell are you? Stugats. I am. Who the hell are you? You should be thanking. Bullshit. Me.

You're a rude young man. You're a fool. You're a fool. I already called you a fool. You can't call me. You're an idiot again. It's a fool off. You're an idiot twice.

You're an idiot for dismissing how much I've helped you. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. I want to ask you guys about a different thing before we go back up there because give me a second on this. I want to get your actual football thoughts on this. The Baltimore Ravens, we have some difficulty, right, in our analysis of who. Who's good? Why are they good? The whole thing around two is basically we need to know who's responsible for his good. It's a weird thing we do. He's only polarizing because of that. Because I'm not sure if he's a system quarterback or what he is. The Baltimore Ravens over the last 25 years have been one of the best organizations in all of sports.

If not for the Patriots, the Baltimore Ravens would have one of the real epic stories in that sport right now because it's a very well-run franchise. from back when Ozzie Newsom was picking players for them well. 25 years is a crazy run when you look at what the dolphins have done comparatively over the last 25 years. And everyone listening to this would say, with certainty, good football team for five years. I know that's a good football team. And then they have this affliction more than any team in the sport when they've got a 90% win probability hit the end of the games. They blow some games. You don't see any good teams blow or bad teams blow.

They've blown them more than anyone else. I don't think that that's something that they are, but I'd have a hard time making an argument against it because it's happened nine times to them, and it's not happened six times to anyone else. Now, it's happened nine times of them because they're good enough to get that far ahead in some of these games. But the next step I want to take with you guys on what the Ravens are,

we all know that's a championship good team, right? And the only thing people question are some mental frailty around Lamar Jackson that I don't think is, but he is a lesser performer in the playoffs. And this thing that has to eat up anyone named Harbaugh that this team can't be trusted at the end of games. And the thing I wanted to talk to you guys about, because I'm assuming, now that we all know that this is a thing about them,

you don't think Derek Henry's weak, right? Like you saw at the end of that game what happened where on fourth and two, Josh Allen is just running toward a sideline and it bounces here or there and it's in the end zone. And then Derek Henry fumbles. That never happens. What's that? None of you listening to this think that Derek Henry is a choker who's weak at the end of games, right?

Right. So this thing that plagues the Ravens is not something that I've seen, a great team ever get. Like the bills might lose games and be a laughing stock because they get blown out in the biggest games. But none of you listening to this think that the Ravens are actually weak. You're not allowed to think that, but they've got an affliction here that whether it's real or a part of defining them or not, is something unlike anyone else in the sport, and you'd be calling any other team that wasn't this good a choker.

You'd say they're mentally frail at the end of the games because there's nothing to be learned from. This has happened to them nine times now, and do you know how these guys hurt their bodies all week when not just they collided all day? They care about this thing deeply, and at the end they knew they were better, and they farted it away.

Like the way that week feels, there's nothing to be learned here. This team knows what that feels like. It's all week. It's terrible. Nothing to be learned from we let up on the gas. Well, nothing to be learned from Derek Henry fumbled when he never fumbles. And if he doesn't do that, which is a very fluky play, they're going to win that game.

It's like, if anyone wanted to have Baltimore number one in their power ranking, still, after that game, ahead of Buffalo, like, I'd be like, all right, you know, I don't really have a big problem with that. Like, Buffalo won because of a fluke. That doesn't mean that Buffalo is better than Baltimore. So if you want that Baltimore ahead. No, but it's happened not. times now though where it's happened where it's two are doing it one of the times in the fourth quarter to start some of this stuff this team has a thing okay we analyze the holy hell out of the

sport okay we really do and the margins are ridiculous it's a it's a foot here is was that guy's elbow in it's just nonsense okay this team though is good it's good the way the eagles are good and you all know it's good there's no question about is it good the only two flaws you can find are do i want to question the quarterback at playoff time because that's what i like to do and what we now have, which is a sample size, that's assinine, Zaz. Give me all the great teams you've known throughout the history of the sport that get up to these giant leads and then have nine times a 90% win probability and the stain of none. That team also blows games at the end in a way that's super weird and doubles up how it happens to even the bad teams in the league.

Lamar Jackson's awesome. The team is obviously really talented. I think over the course of a 60-minute game, when you have that combination of a great quarterback and a really talented team, you're going to win a lot of games. When the game is tight and you're also playing another good team and you get to late in the game, I think that's when like the little things get a little bit exacerbated. Like those little things being there's no room, there's no margin for error the way that there is margin for error over the course of a 60 minute game. And so when Lamar doesn't make big plays at the end of games or if there's a question

we'll play call them as far as running the clock when it comes to hardball, that stuff that we're not noticing throughout the course of a game because you have the better team normally if we're late in the game, it is exacerbated and it could wind up costing you the game. Does anyone listening to this believe that the Ravens are mentally frail at the end of games? Like what's the accusation you'd make to a team

that this keeps happening to if you think it's a part of their DNA? Like it's happened enough that I'm assuming that most of the people listening to this say this is a problem about the Ravens that they have uniquely that is strong. structural, correct? Like if it's happening, these games are so important, as every last one of them, the difference between home field advantage and no home field advantage is found in a couple of these games that the Ravens have lost. So when they go to Buffalo, Mark Andrews can't catch the ball

on the goal line in the cold in Buffalo because they had to be on the road. Like the margins are asinine. So when I tell you, one team has this thing. Does the audience believe that that's a flaw that is simply structural to Baltimore? That, not that that fluke is going to happen to them. And at the end of games, at the end of a playoff game, road or home, they now know what's going to happen to them because it happens to them more than it happens to anybody. Right. And the thing that's happening to them at the end of these games, look, it happens all the time in the middle of the game, but it doesn't have the consequence that it does at the end of the game when then the clock runs out and you're trailing. But for whatever

reason, Lamar Jackson, and again, I lump hardball in that category too, because we're talking about play calling and clock management there as well, which was not good at the end of the game on Sunday nights. I think that then we notice it a whole lot more because then the clock runs out and they've lost. I mean, it's the same thing with the bills, right? The bills you just always expected to happen with the chiefs and you expect, oh, well, something's going to happen at the end. They're going to get close and then there's going to be, you know, an interception or there's going to be a pass that hits a receiver's hand. Like, both teams have that until they don't have it happen one time and then they don't have it anymore. That was Peyton Manning, right?

That was Peyton's whole career. He can't win until he finally does. But the difference that I find with the way Buffalo loses these playoff games and the way Baltimore loses these playoff games. Buffalo's not losing these playoff games and then we look at Josh Allen are like wow, he wasn't any good. Buffalo also like you think they don't have enough and Josh Allen's lifting all of those pieces.

Josh Allen is great these games. Lamar does that too in his defense. No, he has Derek Henry now. Yeah. But Josh Allen is great in these games, but okay, the other quarterback, he outplayed him. They made the plays the end. When Lamar Jackson and the Ravens losing the playoffs, more often than not, we're looking at Lamar Jackson.

like, wow, he wasn't very good. The thing with Lamar, too, is Lamar has it happened in the regular season to dumb teams sometimes, too, where it's not like, oh, it's just that he can't get over the Chiefs. It's like, oh, well, that happened against, like, the Raiders in week 13 or whatever. So it just, both teams can solve this problem very easily by just having it not happen in the playoffs once. Right, just one time. Yeah.

Yeah, just one time. You guys say that, though, and I just spent 17 games watching the Chiefs win one score game after one score game and be like, well, that's an ability they have, right? If they're doing it 17 straight times. I mean, but it wasn't because like some of them involves field goals going off the, you know, crossbar. But also in these close one score games that you're talking about here, you have to play mistake-free. And they have a quarterback and a coach who are apparently really good at being mistake-free late in these tight games. To me, it's really interesting, though, if I pulled the audience right now, if I just

asked the audience of football fans, what are they saying? Like, this sticks to the Ravens now. I think they think Lamar Jackson chokes. Until it doesn't, though. Like, it just takes one for it to not stick. It takes one, what, though? Like, if... Overcome it one time.

In the playoffs. Okay, but you got... Okay, but what about during the regular season? So you guys are doing it to the playoffs. Okay, so, but if yesterday, like, if the kick goes wide and the Ravens still win that game, but they choked it at the end, we're probably not having the conversation we're having right now. the game the Ravens had. Yeah. And then it was,

ah, that always happens to the bills. It was a perfect spot. But also, you would agree that Lamar Jackson's at the place in his career now where nothing good can come of the regular season. We have to wait until the playoffs, and that's when something good can happen for Lamar Jackson. The regular season is meaningless for Lamar Jackson at this point.

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