The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Greatest Interviewer of All-Time

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Dianna Russini joins the show to tell us about the Eagles win over the Commanders, the Giants decision with Daniel Jones, teams that had interest in Saquon Barkley, and the Raiders coaching change all... while the crew goes to the Bucket of Death and bothers her with increasingly distracting sounds. Then, Chris Cote has a schedule speaking engagement...at his daughter's school. Plus, Will Jordan, aka @SausageKingLegend on IG, created one of the best moments in Wheel of Fortune history with his "Treat Yourself a Round of Sausage" answer, and he's here with his joyful disposition to tell us what going viral has been like for him, the money he's been able to raise for charitable causes, why he created an Instagram, and to determine who was right about the deflated sigh we argued about during the Local Hour. Plus, the greatest interviewer of all-time, Jazlyn 'Jazzy' Guerra stops by to tell us about HER viral moment with Mike Tyson, what goes into creating a great interview, the passion she has for her role, and why being a "curious kid from Brooklyn" has led to these amazing moments in her young life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:12 against the backdrop of their family history. See a real pain only in theaters November 15th. Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries.
Starting point is 00:01:40 That if they're just there that hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. Hello, Diana. Hello, Chris. How are we? Oh, she said Chris.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I am good. I miss you guys. We miss you. It's Friday. Are Fridays, do Fridays feel like Friday to you? No, they don't, because I write on Fridays. It is my hell. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:06 But it is all good. I want to pack a lot into the time that we have left, so we will try to find the Wheel of Fortune contestant. We will attempt to continue to find the 14-year-old girl who was interviewing Mike Tyson and get Diana's thoughts as well on that that because Diana Rossini joins us now because there was last night the rare game between teams we're pretty sure are probably maybe good. There aren't a lot of those in football this weekend. There is one Steelers-Ravens
Starting point is 00:02:39 but last night you, your husband is a famous Eagles... eagles fan by virtue of the show you wake up to a happier husband uh... what was the experience with him last night as seqon barkley one of the few running backs in the league can that can actually wear you down in the fourth quarter yeah i woke up with a pot of coffee already brewing fresh pancakes butter and syrup at five thirty this, already at the kitchen table. He's got his Eagles sweatshirt on, looks handsome. He shaved, the cologne's on.
Starting point is 00:03:12 He's ready to attack his day. So yeah, so look, when things are bad, we feel it here, but when things are great, I'm all about it. So I'm actually really contradicting myself here, complaining about it, because right now, it's like Christmas here, so I'm all about it. So I'm actually really contradicting myself here, complaining about it because right now, it's like Christmas here. So I'm psyched. Any takeaways from last night to you that are most relevant,
Starting point is 00:03:32 whether it's criticizing a fourth down decision or all of Daniels' past attempts being within five yards of the line of scrimmage? Yeah, mine's more big picture. As this coaching, hiring and firing conversation starts growing, I know it's a little early, but it's not this year. I can tell you a lot of organizations are starting to do their research of what are we going to do after this year.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And I can tell you that Eagles ownership and their front office, obviously led by Howie Roseman, they believe that they've built a championship roster here. So every single time Nick Sirianni wins another game, I wonder what they're thinking about. I wonder if they're going, okay, this is in line with what we want and he's our guy, or are they going, this has got to be Super Bowl or he's out?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Because I know that there's been some frustrations there in Philadelphia about some of the antics and some of the decision making from nixie reyani so every time they win now it just it just another nice little check for him uh... as he survives another week wild and is here let's go ahead and just do bucket of death around her turn on the lights and don't know if i get as this is happening she's gonna
Starting point is 00:04:41 participate in this is well yes we're gonna pick for her But I want to ask her questions as you do this. So just rummage around for a second Jeremy Just hold on calm down settle down settle down Jeremy. He's in a cardigan Jeremy let me let me get you to settle down pull over you don't need to rummage extra Just wait until I've asked Diana this question okay settled everything settled okay. The Philadelphia Eagles making that trade for Saquon Barkley is the best trade since blank like these kinds of acquisitions inside of the division where you see oh my god Schefters reporting that Daniel Jones may not play another down for the Giants and Saquon
Starting point is 00:05:25 Barkley leaving there is now Philadelphia at not just the top of the division but clearly upgrading at a position in a way that's super unusual in that league. I'm trying to remember the last time there was a trade in the division that's the problem that's why that was so weird. What was the last time we saw this? I'm sorry I called it a trade and you're right it's an acquisition it was not it was an acquisition, it was not a trade. It was an acquisition, correct. It was more, it was an acquisition, an acquisition. You nailed it.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Accusation. Yeah, any word longer than six letters just snags me on the show, along with a Hail Mary. Derek Harvey is like that, right? It's not, Derek Harvey is adjacent. I'm just, because it was in the division. Henry. Sorry, thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Because it was in the division, I was just surprised to see something work out this well inside of a division. I just want to know if Saquon Barkley went anywhere else. Is he having this kind of success? This is not me doubting his ability. I just think that this team and the way they're built with this offensive line is giving us the best Saquon we could see. So when you talk about a perfect marriage, you're talking about a perfect Philadelphia roster for Saquon and a ground game
Starting point is 00:06:33 that they're obviously leaning on. Look what they did. He's winning games for them. And Joe Shane continues to sit in his front office going, what was I thinking? I have the New York Giants. They are on a buy. I'm keeping that home. Oh, congratulations. He would have worked pretty well in Baltimore too. Yeah, Detroit probably would have worked pretty well as well, yeah. Well, Houston was interested in him, but they wound up going with Joe Mixon.
Starting point is 00:06:58 That's actually worked out really well for them. He also had interest from the Chicago Bears. So he had plenty of teams that that I think it could have worked. I think it actually could have worked in Chicago. They could certainly use them. But with that offensive line, he might as well have stayed in New York. Rummaging, here we go. We've got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And they were also on a buy and I'll be keeping things. Wow. What's going on around here? Yeah, people aren't going to like when people run around here. I like the buys. Wait, we missed the Giants buy. So we've got the Daniel Jones situation we're watching. They've got to make a call here. Tell me what's going to happen there.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Okay, so they've got this injury guarantee for next year and they got to make a decision right now. Are we done with him and we want to save this money or do we go to Drew Locke? And at this point, from what I've been hearing in the conversations I've had, Daniel Jones may be staying as the starting quarterback here for a few more weeks. I'm not sure if this is completely done. We're gonna know more this weekend though,
Starting point is 00:07:54 when they come back from their bye and they meet with their quarterbacks. So what happened with the reporting on that one? Why is it not sure yet or Sche Schefter got it right, right? That we may have seen the last time that Daniel Jones plays for the Giants. Sometimes we do this where we just go based on what we know historically, when teams are in this situation, not so much what he knows specifically. I read Schefter as that was him going,
Starting point is 00:08:21 this would make a lot of sense if the New York Giants want to save money. That doesn't necessarily mean that that's what the New York Giants are going to do because you have other factors here, right? You've got Joe Sheen and Brian Gable, despite the fact that they got the vote of confidence from their owner, John Marra. And, you know, it may appear that they're safe,
Starting point is 00:08:39 but we know how this goes. Even if the owner says that, if they go out there and lose in a really bad way and it's ugly football, it's gonna be really hard to bring those guys back there. So I think in the mind of a Brian Dable and a Joe Shane, we don't really know what Drew Lock's about. I think Daniel Jones may still give them
Starting point is 00:08:58 the best chance to win. Roy, what did you select from the helmet there? I had the Houston Texans. They are a seven and a half point road favorite at Dallas. It's all good things right now, because then I picked and I got the Packers minus five. Okay, so the Packers are at the Bears. The Bears, your thoughts there are what
Starting point is 00:09:18 in terms of league wide disappointments? Matt, well, we'll start with just the fact that Matt LaFleur is 10 and 0 against this team. That he's never lost to the Chicago Bears, ever. So I don't think that that trend is gonna change unless Jordan Love just really lays a big egg, which I don't see happening. But in terms of the Chicago Bears,
Starting point is 00:09:38 to me, it just appears like this is a defensive coordinator as a head coach right now and has lost focus on what this should be. You're watching all these other quarterbacks right now around the league in this rookie class progress, get better, scramble, use their legs. And Caleb just looks like he's in a structure and in an offense. He's not comfortable, not mentally, not physically, on top of the fact that he has no protection.
Starting point is 00:10:11 They made the change at offensive coordinator. Thomas Brown is now going to take over as the play caller. I don't think this gives them a bump. I don't think there's a coordinator bump in Chicago because of the change here. So this is gonna be a situation where I think the Chicago Bears are going to clean house at the end of the year and try to bring in somebody that can get the best out of Caleb Williams because this certainly isn't good
Starting point is 00:10:33 enough. Dan, I pulled the Browns are playing against my beloved Saint Arunis. I got to throw it back in. Okay, James revenge game. The Browns are a one point favorite favorite at New Orleans Amin is selecting again I'm going to select for Diana as soon as he is done. Oh, thank you I actually wanted to talk a little bit of Brown Saints, but we'll move on. All right Saints. All right, what Saints stop? It's okay. Um, I will dump it
Starting point is 00:10:58 No dolphins are a seven-point favorite against the Raiders the the the Gardner Minshew led Raiders seven point favorite against the Raiders, the Gardner Minshew led Raiders. All right. Well, the Raiders changed offensive coordinators, right? They just they're coming off their by Scott Turner brought in his dad, North Turner. So they're going to try to run the ball more. Right. That's kind of their identity. What we saw in Washington with Scott Turner was the OC. Look, the Raiders are a mess. They this for a team that
Starting point is 00:11:27 appeared to support Antonio Pierce, their head coach, and they were going to fight to the death for him. It lost its steam this year because they don't have a good quarterback. Tom Talasco is the GM there calling all the shots. We'll see what he does at the end of the year, but I think it's going to be a tough case for Antonio Pierce, you know, to continue to be the head coach here, just because there just hasn't been any success yet. I have selected from the bucket, I've got Big Apple, and I'm not allowing Diana to have that, because it's a winner, I'm gonna keep that,
Starting point is 00:12:00 because the Giants are all mine. Can you also be the Giants? I'm now selecting for Diana. Now can two people have the same team, because Jeremy pulled the Gi are all by. And I'm now selecting for Diana. Now can two people have the same team? Because Jeremy pulled the giants as well. I'm going ahead and ruling that that can indeed be so. I've got Big Apple, I'm a winner. You have the Rams, Diana.
Starting point is 00:12:17 The Rams, do you want the Rams? Four and a half point favorite at the Patriots. See how it works, Diana Diane is you can put that helmet Back, but the next one is your one to keep Okay, I would like to put that one back really really as a four and a half point favorite You don't like the Rams at the page. You don't have to cover. It's just to win. Okay. She doesn't want Army Navy or Air Force. Thank you for your service helmet. Which of those teams would you like? Would you like to look how she delighted? She is she's just said look she is titillated by our new little game are so like she she it's it's so new to her
Starting point is 00:12:56 She doesn't hate it the way that we do army plays Notre Dame in Yankee Stadium and then Blake Horvath and them boys at Navy play Tulane for a massive game in the AAC could be potential conference championship setting up between Army and Navy if Navy beats Tulane this weekend. And Air Force hosting Oregon State. They suck though. What would you like there? I'm good. I would like Navy. Well, I obviously want that matchup to pan out, but I'm going to go with Navy. That Navy. That is, is that okay if I make that choice? Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's your team, your choice.
Starting point is 00:13:29 We thank all of them for their service. So you guys obviously know, before I joined the athletic, I was at ESPN all the time and, or on the air reporting. And one of the hardest things to do on TV is to talk on camera with technology issues. And it happens sometimes live on the air,
Starting point is 00:13:48 for those who have never done it before, where you get this like annoying sound in your earpiece while you're talking on TV. And it is without a doubt the hardest thing to do on TV in my opinion. And I would say the noise that you guys are playing behind me is a close second to how annoying and distracting that is. So I just wanted to say thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I apologize for missing the appearance on Tuesday. I had some major, major, major phone issues. So I'm glad that I came back here on Friday. I was gonna let the week go, but it's good to be here, guys. Diana, I agree with you. Hear the annoying sound I hear in my ear. It's usually a producer.
Starting point is 00:14:27 That's right, I was gonna say, whatever you were nominating there, second to Lewis in your ear, the entire show. Can you get for me just a series of annoying sounds to try and distract her to make the degree of difficulty on this just a little bit harder? Maybe it's just our workplace, but I didn't even hear it. I know, it's just back,
Starting point is 00:14:44 this is all I hear everywhere I go. Like this is the soundtrack to my life, wherever it is that I'm walking. That Whole Foods like, bomb, bomb. I'm also over, like I'm overstimulated already with cro- like the sound of toddlers crying and whining is close to this as well, where you are just willing to do anything
Starting point is 00:15:04 to just get it to stop. But let's keep this going. I'm so, I'm mentally falling apart right now. Yes, that's fine. Keep testing her with different kinds of sounds here. What happened to your phone though this week? What's major phone issues for you? So you guys know that the boys put my cell phone
Starting point is 00:15:21 in the microwave and I was gonna go get a new one finally cause the guts of this thing was hanging out. And I was able to make it to the phone store and it turns out that it just said the temperature was hot the whole time. It would not change, just hot temperature. I don't know what that even means. So they said, all right, here's a new phone.
Starting point is 00:15:39 What is your iCloud password? I don't know. I have no idea. Diana. Oh no. Oh know. I have no idea. Diana. Oh no. Oh no. I tried everything. I tried every ex-boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I tried every team I like. I tried everything. And it turns out for anyone who doesn't know this, if you lose your iPhone or iCloud password, it takes seven days for Apple to reset it for you. So obviously as an insider that needs their phone, that's not acceptable. So we were able to figure out a way,
Starting point is 00:16:12 and it's pretty wild. The person at the Apple store, their genius is there, set my phone to what people that have vision issues and they were able to figure out a way to get all my contact information and I'm back up and running. Turn that up so Diana can hear what does the God say. Stugotsbook.com, it's selling, it's good. I've read pieces of it and it's funny and believe it or not, it's smart.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Perfectly. You've written pieces of it. I have too, perfectly on brand for Stugots. Me too. Diana, were you allowed, were you asked or told you were writing for it? Did you have to write for the Stugots book? Yeah, it's funny, I was going through something in my personal life
Starting point is 00:17:25 and he knew of it and he never reached out about it. I know he knew of it because he later shared with me, hey, I heard, you know, I'm really sorry about that. But the only text I got during that time was something about, hey, I really need you to write something about how much you love this book and your experience with it. And I never responded.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I just, that's typical, John. She's the senior NFL insider for The Athletic. The podcast is Scoop City. It is nice seeing you. We will try to distract you in more ways next week. I am so annoyed and irritated right now. He was gonna play the Tyson press conference. I had to wave him off.
Starting point is 00:18:03 He was gonna play the Tyson press conference with Lennox Lewis. It would have been bad judgment. But Mary and Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary. All right, guys, these seasons are changing. You know what that means? Time to layer it up a little bit. Change the wardrobe. In Miami, a little bit of a different story, but across the country when I'm traveling,
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Starting point is 00:18:57 That's why Rhone is proud to partner with NBA 5-time All-Star Kevin Love and the Kevin Love Foundation together. They're opening up discussions and enabling action around mind health. Head to rhone.com DLS and use promo code DLS to save 20% off your entire order. That's a 20% off your entire order when you head to rhone Rhone.com slash DLS and use code DLS. It's time to embody your most confident self Don LeBataard to embody your most confident self. It's the final night gown This is the Dan LeBattar Show with the StuGats Chris Cody, I am delighted to learn when I come in today, there are little moments of metal arc pride,
Starting point is 00:20:08 little tiny moments of metal arc pride, where I can sway, you know, moved, palpably moved by the career ascent of someone. Chris Cody has a speaking engagement today. Get the f*** out of here. I do have a speaking engagement today. Get the fuck out of here. I do have a speaking engagement. If you want tickets to it, if you want tickets to it, you can go to Game Time.
Starting point is 00:20:33 You download the Game Time app, create an account, use code Dan for $20 off your first purchase, terms applied, download the Game Time app today. What time is it? It's game time. Game time? Now I'm kidding. My speaking engagement is not on Game Time, but a What time is it? It's game time. Now I'm kidding, my speaking engagement is not on game time
Starting point is 00:20:47 but a lot of good sporting events are. But yes, Dan, I have a speaking engagement today. It's a biggie, it's why I'm wearing long pants. Tony noticed it right away. I haven't seen you in, I can't remember the last, I did not know for sure that you owned long pants since Austin. I have joggers.
Starting point is 00:21:05 But you're right, like jeans, never. Where is the speaking engagement, school for the deaf? It is, it's my daughter's class. Yes, yes, I mean, it's the school for the deaf. That's a joke. Yeah. So they can't hear them. Yeah, I'm thankful.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Now, this is the funny part. It's not career day, because I feel like that one I could kind of own. I got a cool job, I could get fun. Oh, you guys like podcasts? Ah! Like that would've been- Career day, you just show up in the AutoZone.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yes, in the battery costume. But no, I'm reading to my daughter's class today. They sent out an email a few weeks ago. They're like, do you want to come in, read a kid's book through the class? I just responded to an email, sure, I'll do that. A week later, she's like, all right, so you wanna come in this Friday at 12.30?
Starting point is 00:21:50 I was just like, whoa, a lot of pressure. Last night, I was practicing, I pulled out a kid's book, I was standing in my living rooms, reading it for my daughter and my wife. I'm a little nervous. I asked if she could send me the book up front so I can get a little walkthrough with this thing, but no, I'll just read it for the first time when I get there, but I'll ask her to videotape it
Starting point is 00:22:09 Maybe I'm sure I'll screw it up, but I'm nervous I actually am nervous to read in front of a bunch of kindergartners the the fact that Chris came in with pants was the dead giveaway that he was doing something school-related because he's mentioned to me many Times where he's like he sometimes feels ashamed to go pick up his daughter Because of the fact that he wears shorts to work, right? So that he goes to the school and it's like look at his dad He's wearing short all the other parents are dressed up and like in a suit or whatever like business casual and Chris walks in With like shorts on like hey, I'm ready to pick up my daughter
Starting point is 00:22:40 I've said this about riding Brightline toiding Brightline and going to my daughter's school, I feel insecure sometimes with the way I'm dressed of people being like, what a loser this dad is. He's at picking her up at 3.30 in the afternoon dressed like that. This guy's got nothing going on when really I'm looking at them, hey, I got a really cool job.
Starting point is 00:22:57 All right, won't you judge me? Cause I'm wearing a hat. This guy walking in with his suit, picking up his kid. You're not better than me. I did the same thing Chris, I had to speak at my daughter's school except I didn't speak in her class which was interesting to me. The whole school? Yeah, the whole school.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Well, from class to class to class I had to speak and basically I just showed him. A tour? Yeah. The car wash. Yeah, the car wash, exactly. And basically I just showed him a video of the hockey show for five minutes. Wait what? Yeah I had to show them what I did for a living. On your phone? No no they had a projector. Oh I thought you were just holding your phone up. You had a presentation of the hockey show you presented the hockey show to an auditorium full of kids. No it went from class to class to class and it varied in actual grades, you know second third, whatever
Starting point is 00:23:46 Put it on the pole, please juju at Levitarch. Oh, is the guy in the suit next door? judging Chris Sorry is the guy in the suit at school at school. Bank teller over here. Wow. Wait a minute. Wow. Take out the bank teller.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You don't know how, you knew from the look of how expensive the suit was or wasn't and you put it in a low paying job. You put it in a low paying job. All right, sorry, you work for Aetna. Oh God. Aetna. Easy. Come on, you gotta pronounce that right.
Starting point is 00:24:23 We have it by the way. I'm offending our insurance provider. No, no, you know what? That's safe, guys gotta pronounce that right. Fending our insurance provider. You know what? That's safe, guys, I'm good. You like that insurance? Let me explain to everyone how bad your judgment was there, not just side swiping our health benefits provider. That's not the worst of it. You saying that guy shouldn't judge you as better than you while
Starting point is 00:24:47 mispronouncing the name of our health provider starts with an a You said it with an E at na he says it's etna Yeah, it starts with an a should be at na Is the guy in the suit at Chris kids school judging him as less than at Leviton show because I think that guy is doing that and also put on the pole is that guy definitely a bank teller I have it where he lives I know who you are Chris Cody yeah I'm still judging you. Making him the bank teller in a suit
Starting point is 00:25:27 is offensive in a lot of different ways, but also you're giving off the whiff of, that's the only way you're getting close to money is in that job, because the suit's not doing it for you, you're just giving it, you're giving the money away, that's as much as you're gonna have. Etna just emailed me, I swear to God. We're in trouble, that's as much as you're gonna have. Etna just emailed me, I swear to God. We're in trouble.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Just terrible judgment from our executive producer on live television, but they have secured for us Will Jordan, and I just saw him on the screen, and it made me happy because he's got a giant smile on his face, so I was hoping that he had a sense of humor about this, so let's play for Will Jordan and for everybody the reason that he's here and get a definitive answer to our investigation of why it is and how it is that the sound got made in the middle of his heartbreak let's play that video and
Starting point is 00:26:18 audio for the audience please well you're going to get three U's. I'd like to solve a puzzle. OK, well, let's hear it. Treat yourself a round of sausage. I'm sorry, that's not it. Over to Katina. I'd like to solve.
Starting point is 00:26:38 OK. Give yourself a round of applause. Yeah, that's it. Will, I am delighted to see you. Thank you for sharing this difficult time with us. I'm sorry for your loss. No, it's a pleasure to be with you today. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So tell me, thank you for being on with us. Take us through here, your retired Coast Guard veteran, police sergeant, school resource officer in Newington, Connecticut. Take us through what happened here. Well, that's right. I've been wearing a uniform to work for the last 29 years. Very proud to do so.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Veteran of the US Coast Guard, six years. I had a full career at the Newington Police Department in Connecticut. I did retire as a patrol sergeant, but before that I was a community service officer. And that's when I started working with the public in the food banks and toy drives and all that. So anyway, went to Rocky Hill,
Starting point is 00:27:28 the finest PD in the country. And I mean that. And I watched the show with my son and family at night and my son's telling me he's 11. He says, dad, you're good at the show. You gotta go on. I said, buddy, a million people put in for it. It's just not gonna be probable that I'm gonna get on. They only take $600, I have a million. But I said it. It's just not going to be, you know, probable that I'm going to get on.
Starting point is 00:27:45 They only take $600 off a million. But I said, if you want to do it, you know, I'm always encouraging them to do things like this that feels so strong about it. And he's at that age where, you know, I try to give him encouragement, whatever he does, he filled out the application all by himself. I didn't even prove for it. It just sent it off with a photo. And over a series of five months,
Starting point is 00:28:05 I had a bunch of Zoom interviews. And the folks at Wheel of Fortune were really nice people. I tell you, they treated me very well. And I'm out in Ireland celebrating my in-laws' 50th wedding anniversary. When I get the call, you made it. So of course, we have a big fun night out in Ireland with that great news.
Starting point is 00:28:20 We came back two weeks later. We jumped on the plane to head to California. I, of course, brought my son. I told him, if I ever did get on, you have to come with me since you started this whole thing. So we did. We went out, my son and my daughter, and we went out there and filmed the show.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And of course, it appears very quickly that I'm playing against very two intelligent women. They're really good. I see them warming up. I'm thinking, oh, man, I came all the way out here. I might not make way out here, I might not make a dollar here, but it still would have been fun.
Starting point is 00:28:48 So I had the mentality where I'm going for it, even if I don't quite know it, and I gotta be slightly aggressive here, because these two fellow contestants were really pretty sharp. So that's kind of the story leading up to the infamous, false incorrect guess. No, perfect, great.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And I want to get into the level of shame your son has watching his father treat himself to a round of sausage. You know what's funny? Him and my daughter tell me later that they actually said a prayer for me and we're not really an overly religious family, but they held hands and said a prayer for me afterwards. They said, Dad, we couldn't believe what just happened.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I said, oh, I said my body stopped functioning. It was, you can't imagine the pressure. I'm telling you, the way that show, just getting there is a miracle, literally almost one in a million chances. Now I'm on it, I'm in the first show, I'm going there. And the feeling of getting it wrong at that moment, I'll never forget what that felt like.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It was unbelievable. The rare post game prayer. So they were praying for you afterward because they hurt so much for their father? They did. And first of all, they've been really great about it. We have the coolest tight knit family, obviously. And they're very supportive.
Starting point is 00:30:02 If no one's taking this serious, we're just kind of laughing. It's one of taking this serious, you know, we're just kind of laughing. It's one of those moments like you fell down the stairs in front of the whole world. Little did I know it was going to go viral around the world. I saw a clip from Australia, the UK news, you know, all three late-night shows. So, you know, people are trying to the funny thing is I'm not
Starting point is 00:30:20 even on Facebook or any social media. I am now sausage king legend at Instagram. Hell yeah dude. It's a bug. But I gotta tell you, I didn't even want to get on because I spent my whole life avoiding social media. You know, I'm blessed with a wonderful family. I've been married 22 years, three great kids. I don't really need the social media. I'm not into it, but you know, I guess at this point people are trying to reach me. So I had a, I had to get on. All right All right well this is what I'm telling you since you've already gotten into the game let's get you fully into the game. I
Starting point is 00:30:50 demand that everyone listening to this make sure that this man get a sausage endorsement. I want this man to be the face and voice to treat yourself a round of sausage like let's get this man actually paid for his international shame. Well, you know what's funny about this is a lot of people reach out to me and they're either like a couple clips, couple news stories I've done on Channel 8 and here in Connecticut did a clip.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I had a huge watch party and the news was there. I had 150 of my closest friends, neighbors, coworkers, family, and we had a big, huge party. It was wonderful. And Channel 8 was there to kind of film the whole thing, film the reaction of the crowd. And you know what the theme that's coming out of it that I'm at least happy with is that
Starting point is 00:31:34 whether they can see from my personality or maybe the 20 some odd years of me working for the food bank and toy drives, that it's this kind of kindness, right? And trying to take a funny moment. I think this whole country needs to laugh right now. And I swear to God, if all the people hurting out there, especially our veterans and other people
Starting point is 00:31:55 that I'm trying to shine the spotlight on, if they can laugh, if people could just get a good chuckle, I'm still laughing. I've seen the clip of my million dollar. Hell yeah. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your sausage. We've got to put these two together. Come on. An American patriot right here. Now, unfortunately, make sure that whatever your social media has been in the past, anytime someone gets celebrity, then people start
Starting point is 00:32:18 digging around and rooting around in their stuff. So let's make sure as we get this guy great fame and money, just get your things in order sir I just became his third follower on Instagram he literally just launched this account I'm so excited will thank you I don't want to be I want to follow this man wherever it is the sausage will take us I want to I want to make sure that he's able to parlay this into something because this is exactly the attitude you have to have about something like this thank you Phil yeah you can see everything I'm telling you I just I just started the count now because I you know
Starting point is 00:32:50 everyone's tell me to get I said guys I'm 48 years old I've never been on social media I'm not going to start now just because it is 2 minutes in the spotlight but really people have a hard time finding me so you know if I can get a plug out there for sausage King legend. What's going out there and see what happens. All right, let's throw it out there. Sausage king legend. What's the funniest thing to emerge from the last couple of days?
Starting point is 00:33:12 And I'm assuming that at that watch party, you already know the result, right? So, you know, they're there to see you embarrassed. I'm leaning into it. That's the decision I made. Like you said, I had a couple months heads up notice. I came back from the show. Now, my wife had told me before I left, whatever you do, just don't do anything cringey. So I said, oh, no problem, hon.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I would never do anything to embarrass the family. So I didn't tell her, I didn't tell her for a month. And I finally sat down. I said, hon, I gotta tell you, my kids kept this secret. We all sat down and said, this potentially is going to be a kind of a big viral moment. I don't know if she quite believed me at the time, but certainly now she does. So, you know, the guys at work, you know, cops are like firemen,
Starting point is 00:33:56 right? They're a lot of roasting, a lot of joking. And I love it. That's why I love being a police officer. That's why I stayed a police officer after retiring from one department. It's just I love the community, I love being a cop. So I just like helping people, a lot of compassion. I have a lot of, I try to give a lot of respect to everyone I deal with. I'm in the school, which is kind of like the icing on the cake. I protect about 1,000 elementary school age kids and they're rooting for me.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And we do a fun thing at recess. I started me in the department, It's called fun football Friday. And I play football with up to 80 kids at recess almost every day if there's nothing going on. And we're having tons of fun. So I plugged the school. They wanted to initially talk to me about like different awards. And I was officers a year and a couple of things
Starting point is 00:34:39 they wanted to talk about. I said, no, I didn't come on this show to talk myself. I said, I want to talk about fun football Friday, the playing of football with the recessed kids at Moser Elementary School in Rocky Hill. And that's what I did. My intro was all about the fun football Friday. That's awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Way to not let viral decontextualization ruin your life. That's how you do it. You lean into it. But there is a mystery that we need to solve. We've been talking about it all show long. In the video, after you say, treat yourself to a round of sausage, we hear an audible groan slash grunt.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Now half the room thinks that's Ryan Seacrest who made that noise. Half the room thinks it's you. Chris, could we replay that sound one more time just so we could get to the bottom of it? Treat yourself a round of sausage. No. That, ugh. That, ugh. Was that you or was that Seacrest? I gotta tell you I
Starting point is 00:35:29 think that was my man Ryan Seacrest. I knew it! I knew it! No way! I think he's wrong. I think he's wrong. Let me just add that Ryan Seacrest, Vanna White, Maggie Sajak, they were so decent and phenomenal with me. That's one of the takeaways I'll take. They were not only just great people, but they were real supportive. Ryan and I were handshaking. Hey, Will, it's a game show. Have fun with it. I said, Well, it's easy for you to say goes, No, come on. This is what it's all about. And it's true, right? There's two things to do. You want to accomplish two things.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Have fun, try to win a couple of dollars for your family. I did both, didn't realize this was gonna happen, but you know what? Sometimes you just gotta roll with it. I wanna play this sound for him again and see if I can change his mind on this because I want you to listen closely. And you're the final verdict
Starting point is 00:36:20 because you would indeed know, but it sounded to me like your voice dropped an octave because of the shame in the pain of what had just happened that you realized it in it you realize it before the buzzer. Treat yourself a round of sausage. Well, I guess that I you know we're talking about a moment that was like you know, just unreal so I'm still still gonna go with my man,
Starting point is 00:36:48 my man Ryan's secret to that one. Is it, is it, is it true? I will take the L. Ryan, can you- I'm sorry? No, I was just making a bad joke there. Can you, I was, I was told though, that before the thing that went viral,
Starting point is 00:37:04 there was actually another moment that you had that was also embarrassing, where you guessed K three times in a row, even though there was clearly no K. Well, you can see that I've been a cop a long time, because I guessed K for staking out the ocean, whatever one that was, and in my head, I'm staking, we're doing a lot of stakeouts. so really I should have guessed the R for staring
Starting point is 00:37:28 But yeah, you can see where my mindset was After everything that happened have you heard from anybody in the last couple of days and has there been much here that has been life-changing In any way yeah, you know that one of the late-night shows called me Jimmy Kimmel Sausage company one of the largest ones in the country. I'm just starting to correspondence with them So, you know, you know again, I think you know I'm not being on social media for the first couple of days kind of hurt me. So reluctantly I joined up like I said and We'll see what happens but just to see the clips around the world is really mind-boggling. Just to think they're talking about it overseas and Australia, it's quite amazing.
Starting point is 00:38:12 But again, if I can turn the spotlight a little bit on why I was on the show as a veteran, I do want to do something positive. We did raise almost $2,000 for my local food bank just for my friends and neighbors and family at my watch party. Very proud of that. And the police department works with me very closely with that. And now we're trying to turn the attention to our veterans. In my town that I work in now is a large VA home, right? A Veterans Affair home. And so it's right in front of me. I see it every
Starting point is 00:38:40 day. I go by and the guys are great. We go up there and talk to the veterans as much as we can. We have a great rapport with them and the camaraderie is there. And so, you know, there are veterans out there that are hurting mentally or physically. And if, you know, through all this, you know, being in the spotlight, if we can constantly bring them up,
Starting point is 00:38:58 let people know that if they could do anything, whether it's donate $5, $10, or if you see a veteran, you know, thank them for their service. And I'm trying to really make this a positive thing for them. Give the people the name of the charity, because I am sure you have moved them with your attitude. It's exactly the right way to handle all of this. I hope sausage rains down from the sky for you.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I'm imagining that all of this will be profitable. I hope that it is. But if you want to help, Will Jordan, how can hope that it is, but if you want to help, Will Jordan, how can people help with what it is that you wanna help with? Well, I appreciate that, sir. Thanks for that. I would say at this point, if they wanna just get on,
Starting point is 00:39:34 find me on Instagram, and so we could do some brainstorming. So this is all new, it's only been five days. So we're trying to figure out how we can pinpoint our efforts and our mission to move forward exactly. I know there's some great, there's great fundraisers out there. Tunnels for Towers is a huge one. People have VA housing in their towns and communities. So there's a lot to do.
Starting point is 00:39:55 But right now, just finding me on Sausage King Legend on Instagram would really, or even Facebook with Will Jordan that my buddies at work got me up going and on the Facebook. So one of the two ways if they can contact me and we can start a dialogue, I'd be willing to work with anyone to try to help me bring awareness. Sausage King was taken, I'm assuming. So you made it Sausage King legend. Well, one guy, one guy is getting a lot of attention. He put on one of the social media sites This guy didn't go on wheel of fortune to win money Will Jordan went on wheel of fortune to become a legend and I thought you know what that's that's hilarious
Starting point is 00:40:33 And you know what we're gonna discard all the negative comments, and we're gonna focus luckily It's been majority focused of positivity, and that's what we're to focus on. He's the sausage king legend. Thank you sir. That was right. That's also, Amin was right ladies and gentlemen. Amin was right. More importantly, Will's lost. The most important thing as we all know, Amin was right ladies and gentlemen. Amin
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Starting point is 00:43:19 This is the Don Lebatard Show with the StuGards. We have joining us now what is today the world's greatest interviewer. Congratulations, Jazzy Guerra. She crushed the Mike Tyson interview. Now she does a lot of this. She's talked to Jay-Z and Kendrick Lamar and Michelle Obama. I don't know what she regards as her greatest and best interview, but let's just play for the people how professionally she handled difficult circumstances with Mike Tyson.
Starting point is 00:43:51 So after such a successful career, what type of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done? Well, I don't know. I don't believe in the word legacy. I just think that's another word for ego. Legacy doesn't mean nothing. That's just some word everybody grabbed onto.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Someone said that word and everyone grabbed on to words and that was used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me. I'm just passing through, I'ma die and it's gonna be over. Who cares about legacy after that? What a big ego, so I'ma die. I want people to think that I'm this, I'm great.
Starting point is 00:44:23 No, we're nothing. We're just dead. We're. I'm no way nothing. We get dead with dust absolutely nothing Our legacy is nothing Well, thank you so much for showing that is something that I have not heard before someone say that answer Can you really imagine somebody say I want my legacy to be this way when I get dead? Think about you how what's good that's that thing? I want you to think about me when I get dead. Why you wanna play with me? Do you think I really want to think about you? How, what's the adapter?
Starting point is 00:44:47 I think I want people to think about me when I'm gone. Who the fuck cares about me when I'm gone? Jazzy, you did such a great job. The silence, just excellent interviewing work to allow the silence for him to continue talking. But thank you so much for the compliment. And honestly, this is the greatest interview now. Just letting you guys know.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Yeah, I mean, we thought so too, but among all the ones you've done, what was the previous greatest before this one? I mean, every single interview, every single interview that I have done has had great viewership and everyone had a great time. So I say every single other interview. So you're saying this right now is your favorite interview,
Starting point is 00:45:27 not the Tyson one, right? You're saying just spending this time with us right now? Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying. Oh, we have a quarterback. You're a hero. I don't think, I think she's being, that's false flattery. Are you saying this on every interview that you're doing? No, I'm not. And you could check you guys could check. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My bad. I will check I was very no, I don't think we need to check. I actually believe
Starting point is 00:45:53 her here. When Mike Tyson was went to death there you were how surprised? Um, you know, as as a reporter, you have to expect that unexpected. But that was something that I did not expect. But I took it like, I feel like I took it professionally and I was really, really surprised. But at the same time, everyone has their own views and everyone has their own kinds of meaning of life. They're worshiping you.
Starting point is 00:46:19 They are bowing. They are bowing. Bravo. But Jeremy's also distracting the content from being made and this is typical of his behavior. Yes, yes, she can learn, she can learn nothing from you. So Jazzy, I wanna ask you, you've tried to interview Mike Tyson before
Starting point is 00:46:35 and he's turned down most requests. How did you guys land this one? Well, MVP promotions, they actually helped me get this interview and it's not like this is my first time interviewing Mike Tyson. I had a chance to interview him before and that's why he decided to accept the interview because he knew what kind of questions I actually ask. On the level of surprise to a question you've asked, certainly this was the most surprising
Starting point is 00:47:02 answer you have received, yes? When you say that you had not heard that before, I'm assuming that was the most surprised you've asked, certainly this was the most surprising answer you have received, yes? When you say that you had not heard that before, I'm assuming that was the most surprised you've been during one of these interviews? Yes, it was. That was one of the most surprising moments I've had in an interview. I was not expecting that answer whatsoever. Were you a little scared? Not really scared. I was more so just, you know, just listening to what he had to say. But you do understand that the face that he gave you was scary, that he, Andy was talking about death. So I was scared on your behalf. I'm still scared. Oh, no, I wasn't. I wasn't really scared at that moment. I just, I feel like Mike Tyson, he's,
Starting point is 00:47:47 I mean, I'm from Brooklyn, we're both from Brooklyn, so at the same point, if he was trying to scare me, I wasn't gonna get scared. Oh my God. Okay, all right, all right. Amazing. I mean, all right, I, see if you can find for me, me interviewing Mike Tyson, and so she can hear how scared I was
Starting point is 00:48:02 when he got mad at me, and I will show you how not to do this, Jazzy. So what has been some of the reaction that you have gotten that has been most interesting or exciting over the last 24 hours? Honestly, I've seen so many different types of articles that were made, videos, and everyone decided to, everyone decided to look at my video and just share it. And it has gone viral for the last 24 hours,
Starting point is 00:48:30 and I'm so glad that that video went viral. I'm very appreciative to everyone that decided to put my interview on the map. You've been doing this for a while, correct? You've been doing this for how long? Five years. And what's the end game, Spence? What's the end game? Yeah, where do you want this to end up? What is your dream? My dream is to have my own show and to just expand my brand.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to do in like 10-15 years, but I'll go with the flow for right now. Why the interest in this? because i'm a curious kid and uh... on for a good and i feel like i could definitely pave the way for future journalists did you model yourself after anybody like how did you decide at nine years old this is something that i think i could be good at well my dad he actually entered he actually you should say my brother's and i today for meet and greets so that we can meet our favorite
Starting point is 00:49:26 professional soccer players, you know, professional athletes that we really liked. And we got autographs and everything. And over time I decided, hey, let's do something much more constructive with our time. So I decided, hey, let's get a karaoke mic. We're gonna get iPad and we're gonna start our own YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And my dad, he helped me the entire time and he still helps me He's my manager, and it's just really great. I still feel like I just started What did your dad have to say about all of what happened here? Well, he was uh he was very excited to see the kind of response that we were getting You your first interview was with Greg Popovich. What do you remember of it? Yeah, Coach Pop. It was so exciting because I remember
Starting point is 00:50:13 I was outside waiting for him and I was just reviewing my questions over and over and over again just to make sure I didn't mess up anything in front of him. And when he did come, I did my interview, I was like, oh, Coach Pop, can I please interview you? He was like, oh, what's your name?
Starting point is 00:50:27 And I was like, oh, my name is Jazzy, can I please interview you? He said, yeah, of course. And I interviewed him, and I remember I had a cup of hot, I had a cup of hot chocolate at the time, and I don't think I put it down. I didn't put it down, right? No, I didn't put it down.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Oh, wow. Look at that. So you were more nervous interviewing Pop than you were interviewing Mike Tyson? Yeah, I mean, that's your first interview. That's my first interview, so yeah. Yeah, okay, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I didn't mean to. No, no, no, it's okay. Let's just play the sound so that Jazzy can hear. Now, I've been doing interviews for 30 years, okay? And Mike Tyson didn't like something that I asked him, and I immediately started peeing down my leg because I was very scared, and you will hear it here. Mike, how'd you feel that went?
Starting point is 00:51:13 How'd you feel like that went? Was that okay for you? No, what do you think about it? What do you think? Do you think you're being smart a little bit about it? What do you think I went? No, no, no, not being, no, no, not being smart. I would not do that to Mike Tyson I'm not being smart it's
Starting point is 00:51:28 just our experiences with you have been up and down up and down I'm not being smart no sir I say it in the most respectful way possible. Well you the interviewer so you tell me how it went buddy. Uneven I would... the the questions were okay uh... sometimes the answers were short and didn't seem like you wanted the question and farmy uh... i just got a bit second and i'm sorry i can't give you that you anticipated probably the next interview i will be able to do that buddy
Starting point is 00:51:59 okay uh... i'm sorry if i've upset you mike thank you for being on my didn't upset me because it's upset me you would have Known about it. Okay Regardless Mike you're are as such you're already Thank you Mike Go ahead and jazzy as the world's best interviewer go ahead and critique that please and don't be you don't have to be polite I want your professional assessment You don't have to be polite. I want your professional assessment. Well, professional assessment?
Starting point is 00:52:27 That's Iron Mike for you. I don't know what to say. I mean, that's Iron Mike. With the nickname, she's a pro. Yeah, but I have to do a better job there, do I not? Like, didn't I fail? Wouldn't you give me any tips there to say, here's what you could have done slightly better?
Starting point is 00:52:45 No, you did a great job. I enjoyed it, I enjoyed hearing that. It was very entertaining. I'll tell you what you could have said, Dan. You could have said, I've never heard that answer before. I'm gonna tell you right now, that is brilliant. I saw that and I said, this is a pro right here. She's a pro because that's the one thing,
Starting point is 00:53:04 that's the only thing I think you could say in that situation after being handed an answer that was completely out of left field. At what point did you know you were gonna have the wherewithal to say that, did you know it midway through his answer, or was that on the spot when he just had that moment of silence?
Starting point is 00:53:21 That was on the spot because when I heard that moment of silence, because I usually like to give people silence afterwards just to make sure that they have all their thoughts together and that they don't want to add anything onto their answer. But when I realized that he wasn't going to add anything on, I was like, okay, that's the first thing that I said. That's the first thing that clicked.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And it was a transition. I was trying to transition to the next question because that was something I haven't heard before. And that was something that I wanted to just transition to my next question because that was something I haven't heard before and that was something that you know I wanted to just transition to my next question What is the key to doing a good interview? What one key above all others? Just have fun and be yourself and have a Research yeah research which is that's many different answers. Those are different answers I asked you for one answer and you gave me many Okay, research, research. Research. That's many different answers. Those are different answers. I asked you for one answer and you gave me many different.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Alright, research. Okay. I think research. How much prep work do you do before an interview? Lots, a lot. That's, yeah, a lot. A lot of research. And the most nervous you've been before an interview
Starting point is 00:54:21 was pop? Like, did you get rid of all the nerves since then? You're fine now? Okay, I'm gonna tell you guys something and I tell almost everyone this. I still get nervous before interviews. I get really, really nervous, but I also get really excited.
Starting point is 00:54:36 So it's like a weird mixed feeling thing that's going on. It's like excitement with nervousness. So that's why I get, and that's where my energy comes from. Jazzy, delightful. Thank you for being on with us. Congratulations for your interview. It is, is it, it's funny to you as well, correct? While also an excellent interview. Okay, Jazzy, good seeing you. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you so much for your time.
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