The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Iguanodon (feat. Lucy Rohden)

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

Can anyone on our staff guess how many games Joel Embiid has missed in his career? Then, Lucy joins us to help determine what she'll be doing to get to the Super Bowl as part of Venmo's #LucyChallenege, and Greg has the perfect suggestion. Plus, crowdsourcing NIL, and Bill Belichick suggests changing the name of the Lombardi trophy. Also, do we owe Bronny James an apology or do the Lakers owe him a demotion? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to DraftKings Network. Folks, the playoff season is here and the only thing better than the game day predictions are the foods that come with them. Introducing Tums Fantasy Foodball Pool brought to you by Tums, America's number one ant-acid brand, and DraftKings. Each week leading up to the big game, turn football into foodball by building your best game day plate for a shot at winning a share of $40,000 in cash prizes. Inspired by game day bites and tailgate treats, join the Tums foodball action during this playoff season's most heartburn inducing times.

Visit draftkings.com slash Tums foodball between January 6th and February 9th to enter for free and select your game day plate before the start of each playoff round. Age and eligibility restrictions apply. Void where prohibited. See terms at draftkings.com slash TumsFoodball. When you feel the heat of the game, don't let the heartburn keep you on the sidelines. Try TumsChewyBites with a tasty outer shell and soft center for fast relief of heartburn, acid indigestion, and upset stomach. Check out Tums Gummy Bites featuring a soft and easy to chew format for fast relief of occasional heartburn, acid indigestion, sour stomach, and upset stomach. Both available at Amazon, Target, and other major retailers nationwide. And for more heartburn relief fun, be sure to follow Tums at Tums Official on Instagram and TikTok.

Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet? Yeah, sold it to Carvana. Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy. The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest over 36 months? Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes,

picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient. Just like that. Yeah. No hassle. None. That is super convenient. Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience.

Pick up these may apply. Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBittard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants

just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan LeBattard show with Stu Gotts is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. We can agree right that the greatest thing produced by the process of losing in

Philadelphia for a decade or so on purpose, it felt like a decade anyways even though it wasn't. Is Joel Embiid correct? Like that's the best result and then whatever is second place is a distant, distant second. You guys wanna guess of the 886 available games for Joel Embiid? How many of those he has missed in his career? Do you wanna take a guess?

846 available games for the Philadelphia 76ers. I'd guess 120. I'd go way higher. How much higher? 250. I'd go way higher. Way higher than 250?

Yeah. How much? Where would you go? Where would you put it? I'd go above 350. I'd go 400 it's exactly Unbelievable how he did that exactly 400 congratulations Mike you played the game flawlessly Thank you, Coach Cohen. You know I have to put a little something on it. Duval! What up, though? 400.

Lucy joins us now. Lucy Rodin. She is the creator of Off Rodin, which is not Rodin. It's Off Rodin, but that doesn't make sense, so we've made it Off Rodin. She joins us now. It is nice to see you, Lucy. You're in new york

and we still haven't uh... gotten the correct challenge in front of you to see if you will do a challenge by monday that will allow metal lark uh... to send you to the super bowl so where are we on uh... challenges that have met your approval because the listeners are being challenged uh... what is the hash? How are we doing this contest to submit challenges to Lucy to see if she does one of them, whether or not she's allowed to go to the Super Bowl with God bless football?

Hashtag Lucy challenge. It's the Super Bowl challenge. It's presented by Venmo, but yeah, we haven't really nailed down the exact challenge yet Lucy. Where are you with this Lucy? I thought we had, I went through, I looked at all the responses. Half of them made me incredibly uncomfortable and I think it's inappropriate for a lot of you

to have asked me to do the things that you did, but there were some good ones. Like Lucy goes to the bookstore, has a nice day. Okay, sure, I could do that. Lucy goes to the spa. Okay, sure, I could do that. Lucy goes to the mall. Okay, sure, if that's what the people want me to do, then'll do it. Um, there was one Dan pays off Lucy's student loans. Okay, sure

I'm fine with that. That seems like a good challenge People are giving good ideas and then I bring them to you all and then you get mad at me because you don't like the ideas That have been given. How about how about Lucy reads Stu gots his book live on YouTube? Lucy reads Stugatz's book live on YouTube. I love that one. I think that's a good one. And it's like a low lift, no? No, that's a lot of reading. You're gonna spend hours and hours doing that.

I like how Lucy does that though in her casual, laissez-faire way. Not my fault, it is 100% your fault. Like you're choosing the ones that aren't challenges or punishments You're not choosing the ones that would be somewhat arduous because they've got to be a challenge in order for you to go there We're not just gonna pay for a trip for you go to go to the Super Bowl and give you another bonus before that By having a lovely day at the spa If I go to the bookstore that I have to walk to the bookstore cold outside what

if they don't have the book I want that's a problem you there's so many things that could go wrong going to the bookstore that's honestly kind of even reckless and dangerous for you to ask me to do anything but I'll settle for going to the bookstore. I wonder if the people listening to this have the ability in the modern age to even find a bookstore. Like not using any computer equipment, just you have to go find one.

We used to have one on Miami Beach, it's no longer there. It's one of the most culturally symbolic things I can say about Miami Beach, that it doesn't have a bookstore. Put it on the poll please, at LeBittard Show. Could you find your local bookstore without the help of your phone?

Because there aren't the books. Wait, are you asking if people can just wander around and find a bookstore? No, I'm saying, do you know where your local bookstore is? Because so many of them are closing. Because where your local bookstore used to be is not where it is anymore because all over, since the pandemic, all I see more than anything

is quarantine buildings and empty offices. While I appreciate the point you're trying to make, I don't think you're making it in a correct way because if I could say the same thing, like could you find your local dry cleaner without the use of your phone? I don't know where a dry cleaner is. Well, I don't know how anybody found anything

like before the phone. I don't know how people found each other outside of a stadium. The phone book. When they were lost and didn't have cell phones. I don't have any grass. You said we're gonna meet in front of the statue and then you just waited by the statue

and if they didn't show up within like 20 minutes, you'd think, well, let me call, like we get our pay phone and call. Did Greg leave the house? Yeah, he left an hour ago. Okay. Yeah, that's where it was. That was it.

I, by the way, still have a B&N in my neighborhood, Barnes and Noble. Oh yeah, that's what they call it. I go there a lot. I haunt the place. And of course, Books and Books in Coral Gables is a legendary local bookstore that carries the Back in My Day book, by the way. So how about that? You only said all of that

so that you could get there at the end. You had no other goal when you started all of what you were saying than to get to the promotion of your book. Speaking of the promotion of the book, my favorite part is that Greg has the book propped up right in order to be like product placement, except it is completely not in your shot, Greg.

There's no shot where the book shows up. Not the wide, not your single. How about reading Greg's back in my day on YouTube, Toilet Reading, a much shorter book than Stu Gotz's. Chris Cody, how do you feel about that as a challenge for Lucy? Because we have to do this by Monday. By Monday, she has to execute on the show the challenge

if she's gonna go to the Super Bowl. I can't have yet more spoiled behavior around here where she gets a spa day and the Super Bowl. Everybody here wants to go to the Super Bowl except me. Yes, spoiled. Spoiled, yes, in a way that's uncomfortable for me. Damn, my parents are divorced, I can't be spoiled. I've been through things. Put it on the pole.

Actually, no. Or you could be double spoiled. Double spoiled. Oh. No, not how it worked. Let's play some video here. I mean, were you fooled by this? Who was fooled by this?

People who are not familiar with alligators and crocodiles and who are now getting fooled in general by everything happening on the internet that passes for misinformation. This story, I mean, that involves the very real fear that people have that alligators and crocodiles have evolved to a point where they could fake stuff. These are very small brained animals.

These are not, this is the stugots of the animal kingdom. Like this is not an animal that can trick its prey under any circumstances. But what, were you fooled by this with the species? I wasn't. I was secretly trying to entrap you into being fooled. And apparently I failed. I failed because Dan Levatard, unlike the alligator,

is wily, he knew, he's like, oh, I got this one. Well, tell the people what it is that this is meant to look like here. So, it's the most, it's so ridiculous. It's an alligator in a river. It's got tiny hands and that looks like tiny hands that are drowning meant to trick somebody. Help, I'm drowning!

It's basically doing that with its arms. Jalen Milrow hands. And it's supposed to lure unsuspecting people into the river to try to rescue it, only to be eaten by the alligator. That's not how alligators operate, but I was praying that Dan would fall for it.

I'm sorry that I didn't. Those look like the, and this is how people get tricked by it, the arms of a baby. It doesn't even look like the arms of a crocodile that is drowning. It is a toddler arms, and then you jump in and next thing you know you're being eaten. Yeah, those are the arms of me reaching for a check after dinner. I would identify that as alligator arms and still swim out there to save the game. I don't agree. I don't agree. It's a good one.

I think he gets points for accuracy because his arms, I've seen his arms become that small when the check comes my entire life. Like, the next check that Greg Cody picks up will be the first I have Thousands of dollars spent in sweet tomatoes. He does that with me even at bowling you think like in this hierarchy He's supposed to pay for shit. No, no bowling. He's always like you got these beers good Do I just pick up the tabs anytime I do anything with my father that requires money being spent? He doesn't even reach he just walks money being spent, he doesn't even reach.

He just walks away. He just wanders away. That's the play, is to time your bathroom break when you think the check's about to arrive. Are Chris and Greg the only bowlers that we have among us? Lucy, are you a bowler? When was the last time that you bowled? Oh, am I still a part of this segment? We just went to alligator, not in the blue.

I don't know what happened there. What was that thing that you were saying about divorce? Yeah, look, it makes you a little cranky. I'm not much of a bowler, I don't know. I wonder why it didn't go to you. Also, I think bowling is really, listen, you just cut me off and I had another good point now, I forgot it, no, just kidding, I didn't.

I think bowling is really expensive in Miami. Like I remember Taylor was telling me that if you wanted to go bowl downtown, it was like $100. Well it's a rave. Yeah that's a problem. He's talking about a very specific bowling establishment that is not far from our studio,

but it is like, it is not a, it's not where Greg and Chris are going. This is like Miami's answer to like, you ever wanted to bowl with beautiful people while music pulsates and the lights are low? That is not where the Cody's are bowling. No, we bowl on a real bowling alley. Yeah.

You know, real lanes. You got the shirts? No, but you know. Lucy, why are you looking with the face as if a boulder is rolling toward you and there's no escape? Bowler. I'm just confused by the idea of a bowling rave.

I would like more details if anyone has them. There's a DJ in there. There's a DJ. Ew, I've had enough of DJs lately. Whoa. I've had enough. You are blaspheming against the musical drug culture that permeates our entire society. All of this music that's only good if you're using drugs.

Drugs? What are you, how dare you disrespect the entire Miami music economy? I'm sorry? I don't know. It should be. By the way, when we talked about alligators, it reminded me of something. I have a challenge suggestion for Lucy. All right, you mentioned walking through a mall you would do that

everybody loves a mall. I suggest you walk through a mall dressed like an iguanodon which is an upright walking dinosaur that's just a little bit bigger than a human being like eight feet nine feet tall. What are you doing? What in the world? What are you doing? No, no, no, let's follow him, let's hear him out. Go ahead, Greg. I have questions. How does one dress up, is that?

Is there like a costume? Do I like just say bye? You go on Amazon right now. You Google Iguanodon and it'll be on your doorstep. What is an Iguanodon explain this? This is something between an alligator, I'm sorry, an iguana and a dinosaur that walks like a human? It walks upright, it's roughly human-sized.

If you've ever watched Disney's Dinosaur, the family that they focus on are Iguanodon. Where did this come from? Where in your mind? We were talking about bowling. Just because you guys are embarrassing yourselves with your lack of dinosaur knowledge doesn't mean Greg's not making a great point.

This is one of my favorite segments ever. Listen, initially I was thinking of Lucy dressed as a stegosaurus, but that would require her to be on all fours and move as if she were an antelope or something. Inconvenient. Yeah, very inconvenient. An Iguanodon, you get to walk upright. Upright.

You're walking proud through the mall. Good posture. Hey, look at that dinosaur. Hey. Wave, waves back? Yes. Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Do you know what an Iguanodon is?

Because I do not. Is there any more information that you wish to give me on this creature that would explain to us a little better how it is that you arrived here? I'm Googling right now to see if I can get an Iguana Dawn on Amazon. You've explained it pretty well, but I'm imagining an Iguana that sort of runs

a crime family of iguanas and is the dawn. Like, that's what I'm imagining. That's also what I thought. I'm gonna make Lucy an alpha, she can't refuse also. It's really cold in here! That's right. Collect a prehistoric life iguanodon vinyl toy. Oh, that's a toy, we don't want that.

No, we want the real thing. It's only $1,000 too. Yeah, but it's on the screen and it's wearing a hat. Like, you guys are making it a full human, you're making it a full human being. I still don't understand, Greg, how you ended up there. Like, why and how did you end up there? You seem to think it's totally logical. Can you explain to us how your mind works?

Because I'm trying to think what is an upright walking dinosaur that's roughly the size of a human being. Lucy, when you see that picture of an iguanodon, would you accept that as a challenge and walk through a mall like that? It's a lesser known dinosaur. I can make it work. Okay so we've got a bid, we've got a bid on a challenge. Not very good. Which mall? Because I feel like the mall you pick really really dictates how interesting, how funny. How long does she have to walk as an iguanodon through the mall in order to make this work as a challenge? It has to be a very popular mall uh... in prime time like on a weekend like a midday saturday two p m you know

you know you know dolphin mall or whatever and and how long i would say a minimum of one hour okay how do you feel lucy about jeremy revealing the other day that sometimes he will just wander around the mall as an exercise to meet people because he wants human contact. He wants creep. Wow. I just like talking to people.

I like going into stores and talking to salespeople and purchasing things. And hey, how's your day going? Being sociable, friendly, being social. You having a good day? He's not bringing negativity and acid to the relationship. Your picture is posted all over that mall. Absolutely, I'm calling the authorities.

What are your thoughts there, Lucy? Are you judging that or are you saying good for Jeremy? Let him live his freest life. I'm judging you because you made it sound like Jeremy's at the mall going up to people and be like, oh, my name's Jeremy, you wanna be my friend? Which I cannot judge. It is what he's doing.

Thank you, Lucy. No, because he's like going up and talking to salespeople, that's completely different. I cannot judge that because he's like going up and talking to salespeople. That's completely different. I cannot judge that because when I lived in Miami and I couldn't make friends, I got so desperate at a point that I was going up to people on the street asking them to be my friend. Yeah, you were dating friends on the internet, yes.

Not well. That was a time, right? Yes, it was, not well. Had none. Didn't work. Before we get you out of here, what do you have for us on Jim Knowles? We've been talking about a variety

of college sports upheaval. What do you have, what are your thoughts there? Honestly, good for Penn State. We saw last year that Penn State really made some, you're only gonna get as far as James Franklin can take you when you're Penn State, so bringing like good coordinators has already made such a huge difference in bringing Andy Kodelnicki, excuse me, and last season it made a huge difference with the Penn State offense with Drew Aller returning and Penn State has so much talent

coming back to go poach the defensive coordinator for the national championship winning team, arguably the best defensive coordinator in college football behind Phil Parker. It was just such like, we are taking this so seriously move like this is what exactly what I think Penn State needed to do. Now Jim Knowles will probably be the highest paid coordinator ever in college sports because he is just, they really, really wanted this move. And so it seems lateral to people. Sometimes it even seems like, okay, you're taking a lesser job. Jim Knowles is going to make so much money and Penn State has

really just positioned themselves to be sort of a favorite going into next season. Mike and Lucy, the coach that is going to command the most money and deserve it as an assistant is blank. Like that is going to make such a big difference because we're gonna make that person the highest paid assistant in in one of the places that you don't have to worry about marking a ceiling on what you're paying people you can just pay them whatever you want. I'll go with someone that I think kind of got demoted last year but in terms of the talent acquisition game, I think very few people actually realize how integral he is to Ohio State's success, and that's Brian Hartline.

Brian Hartline's one of the best recruiters in the nation. The track record, once again, and the pros is a little hit or miss, but everyone in the high school ranks knows that if you want to be a potentially wide receiver that is headed towards Canton, that is a program that you want to be a part of and Brian Heartline's done such an amazing job

of conveying that. If his agent isn't shopping him around, telling people you want talent, you better call the Heartline. That guy deserves to be a part of it. That's just like a hipster pick because he's not, you know, like a top assistant. No, but it's a good pick to get someone

who's good at recruiting. I just am surprised that you're going with a former wide receiver of the Dolphins and a former wide receiver of Ohio State being better at recruiting than everyone else is. How the hell did he develop that? Miami's gone head to head with him in a lot of battles with a lot of local kids and Brian Hartline's won the vast majority of those battles. Lucy, do you have a selection? I would have gone with Jim Knowles, honestly would have been my answer with, I know that some Ohio State fans aren't happy

with the amount of time it took for him to really get Ohio State to the level he wanted to, but he's a game-changing coordinator. Like he can really take your defense from something that's solid, from something that's average to a national championship winning defense, where obviously Ohio State had a great offense this year.

Obviously they had some of the best receivers in the country, but their defense was really what solidified them as the best team in the postseason and the best team in college football. So I like what Penn State did. I really, really think that like the decisions that I'm seeing Penn State make, which I never would have thought I'd say this, especially about James Franklin, but good move. Good job. Lucy, I wanna ask, have you heard of Fan Steak? You ever heard of this company, Fan Steak?

So you and Mike, cause you guys are college people, there's a company called Fan Steak, they do NIL crowdsourcing. So basically they say, hey, I'm Miami. Is this a Kendrick Perkins thing? I don't know if he's behind it or not, but it's basically, I wanna go after, the number one athlete is Roy Bellamy, right? And so Congratulations, I create a crowd sourcing

We're all the UM fans can go out there through five dollars ten dollars Whatever it is that they could put in and then if Roy Bellamy ends up committing to Miami He gets that money that all these people pledged But if he does it the money's released back to the people who donated, and I'm assuming the company makes money by taking a transaction fee or a cut of the play. I think Kendrick Perkins had something

that was adjacent to the space, but he's not with fan stake. I need more data on it. On the surface, it seems like a pretty novel concept, but I can also understand how certain kids would kind of feel take advantage of. To me, it kind of feels a little bit like, you know, the boy bands that always complain

about their management a little bit, like, hey, we made it, and then you have like, this percentage, it's unfair, so there's a lot of hits and misses, but I'd like to see it play out a little bit more. It sounds like a GoFundMe page for college sports. Yeah, I mean, it's, in essence, it is, but also it's a way for college sports. Yeah, I mean, it's, in essence it is, but also to wait for fans to be like,

no, I directly contributed to why this guy's coming to our school as opposed to just hoping our NIL collective gets it done. Lucy? I don't love it. I think kind of one of my more people might not agree with takes with NIL is I kind of hate that the responsibility

has come on to the fans. I will never donate to Iowa as an IL. I'm just not gonna do that. I think there are better things I can give my money to. And I don't like, especially when like, you'll have coaches come out after a bad loss. I know Mark Stoops did this at Kentucky and be like, oh, well, you want us to win,

it's your responsibility to do that. And I think a service like this kind of pushes that narrative that like, if I want my favorite team to win a national championship game, I have to go give them money. I kind of hate that a lot because I think that especially college football where most of the fan bases aren't these big,

you know, major cities, they're small Midwestern areas, you know, the South, like it's not super wealthy, wealthy areas to ask that the fans fund these teams, like really actively hate. So I don't love that. I think it's like a, like a nifty idea. I would never participate in it. And I think that it does sort of spread this kind of idea

that like, you have to give money to your team. When a lot of fans are already giving money to their team, they're already buying merch, they're already buying season tickets. They're already going to games like You're bleeding us dry. I wholeheartedly agree with Lucy and I say that as someone that Has the season tickets has the merch and also contributes to the NIL collective like I thought that things might change with rev share It hasn't and quite honestly you have people in positions of power in college athletics be it Administrators or college coaches make these demands, but they are not actually contributing to this pot

Their salaries are not going down the game has changed the labor is getting paid you would think that the administrators and the coaches would feel That a little bit nope it goes directly down to the consumer, down to the fans, and they're the ones getting the guilt trips. As the college coach salaries escalate where $10 million a year is no longer considered particularly unusual, a percentile of those coaches' salaries should go to NIL. Well, that's happening right now.

They're making coaches take pay cuts. They're doing it all over. Norvell did it. Norvell. And that's smart. Paying. Gundy did it too. They're taking.

Yeah, but he didn't win a game in the conference. He should give all his money back. But I think your larger point is they should be doing this as a default, not as like, oh, sorry, I won two games, so. I can't think. I honestly cannot think of a business plan anywhere that works this way, where the players are paid, but not by the colleges.

Like, they're paid directly by the fans. Well, they're going to be paid by the colleges now with rev share, but it's not going to be equal to what they make off of it and the people that are benefiting are contributing. What it's been is super weird to say, look, yeah, we, okay, all right, we should pay players and then go beg for it. Like, and then, yeah, you got us, you got us, we should indeed pay, you guys wanna take care of this? It's like going to dinner with Greg. It's like, hey, wanna go to dinner?

Sure, you're paying, right? I will say, what you're seeing across the nation right now is the rev share is actually making boosters pay more Because you have programs and I explained this before on the show But you have a program like Duke which sets the market when they acquire Mensa from Tulane Duke would never raise 15 million dollars for their football program, but with rev share they do So they're all of a sudden in the game for talent acquisition So what do they do out the gates they establish the market Mens Mensa gets more than twice of what Cam Ward got previously.

So you see how that alters. And now to make that up, okay RevShare, I have a cap on what I can commit in terms of RevShare. How am I going to make up that money if I talk to someone that really prioritizes NIL in the marketplace? You're going to have to go to your boosters and they're going to actually have to contribute more than they used to. Put it on the pole please Juju do you want to hear the phrase rev share when talking about sports and also

Lucy I think that nifty is an old person's word do I have this wrong at LeBotard show put it on the pole is nifty an old person's word because I don't believe that that's something that should come out of the mouth of anyone who's under 50 years old. Greg Cody seems to agree with me. It's a great word to use. I appreciated hearing it. She's bringing it back.

Zach, I mean, nifty is from the 1960s. Let's bring it back. It's like cool, it's like groovy, nifty. Well, I think of it more as like Happy Days frisky, like frisky as an expression an expression for sex it's not something that anyone's doing anymore they were doing it in the 70s on television because you couldn't say sex in the in the 70s fresh is another one you can fresh with me that means yeah I like that fresh Lucy thank you for being

on with us we will figure out this challenge. Right now, the highest bidder is Iguanodon walking through a mall for some reason for an hour. Hashtag Lucy challenge is where you go, anywhere on the internet if you want to submit over the next couple of days. We have to get this done by Monday. Thank you, Lucy. Thanks, it was nifty.

Fresh. I'm fresh with you. Folks, did you know that sleep is one of the most important parts of recovery? Whether you're a pro athlete or just looking to crush your day, getting the right kind of rest is key. And that's where Sleep Number Smart Beds comes in. Since 2018, Sleep Number has partnered with the NFL to help elite athletes get quality

sleep that they need to perform at their best. In fact, 80% of NFL players sleep on Sleep Number Smart Beds. Tough workout? The Sleep Number Smart Bed can be adjusted to suit your needs. Firmer one night, softer the next, giving you the ultimate recovery boost. And let's talk about those sweaty, sleepless nights. The new Climate Cool SmartBed adjusts up to 15 degrees cooler on either side with scientifically designed cooling programs to keep you comfortable and undisturbed. Sleep Number SmartBeds don't just help you sleep,

they learn how you sleep, providing personalized insights to help you get and undisturbed. Sleep Number SmartBeds don't just help you sleep, they learn how you sleep, providing personalized insights to help you get even better rest. It's like having a sleep coach right in your bedroom. Why choose a Sleep Number SmartBed? So you can choose your ideal comfort on either side. And now save 50% on the new Sleep Number Limited Edition SmartBed, limited time, exclusively at a Sleep Number store near you.

See store or sleepnumber.com for details. Hey there, wellness warriors. If you're like me, you've given a lot of thought to how to improve your health and wellness routine this year. I've started stretching more, do a little mindfulness and meditation every day, try to clear my mind, make my body feel right. Take your health routine to the next level

with the magic of contrast therapy. Meet our new amazing sponsor, Redwood Outdoors. They're making it easy to bring the benefits of saunas and cold plunges right to your backyard. A Redwood Outdoors backyard sauna seats 2-8 people where you can relax, unwind and enjoy all the benefits like reduced muscle tension, improved sleep and glowing skin. And it doesn't stop there. Redwood Outdoors invigorating cold plunge helps to boost circulation, sharpen your focus, and leave you feeling absolutely revitalized. Whether it's detoxing deeper, reducing inflammation, or connecting with loved ones in moments of

peace, Redwood Outdoors has you covered. Enhance your physical and mental wellness routines with Redwood Outdoors. Take advantage of special savings today. Visit redwoodoutdoors.com, use code DAN to save $175. That's redwoodoutdoors.com, code DAN to save $175 on your order. redwoodoutdoors.com, code DAN. This is a message from sponsor Intuit TurboTax. Now taxes are 100% free when you file in the TurboTax app if you're a first-time filer or didn't file with TurboTax last year. That's right, just do your own taxes in the TurboTax app by February 18th. Had a few jobs last year? It's free.

Have a lot of forms? Yep, still free. Have a bunch of new invisible crypto coins? Heads up, it's still free. Convince you saw Bigfoot even if your friends don't believe you. Then that has absolutely nothing to do with taxes, but you better believe it's still absolutely free. Just download and do your own taxes in the TurboTax app by February 18th. All tax forms all 100% free. Now this is taxes. See if you qualify in the TurboTax app. Excludes

TurboTax live. Must start and file in app by February 18th. Don Lebatard! He seems like a not nice guy and he He seems like a not nice guy and he's always been a not nice guy. I don't care for him and I hope he has the day he deserves. Oh. Wow, that's deep. Stugatz.

I hope he has the day he deserves. That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go F yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve. I think it's so much like, it's twisting ice. It's a great kind insult, yes. It's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out.

That's a less Southern bless your heart. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the StuGats. I want to get to this sound from Stephen A. Smith, but before I do so, did you guys have any thoughts on Bill Belichick saying that they should rename the Lombardi Trophy maybe for Tom Brady? Yeah. That they should just rename it the Tom Brady Trophy? Well, when I first heard about it, I thought it was just such a spectacularly dumb idea.

And then to Bill's credit, I heard later that he was just quote unquote joking. He was kidding. Yeah, I'll say if it's sincere, it's too little, too late, Bill. You can't come in now and try to make things right. His point is players win, coaches do not win. I thought it was admirable for him to say,

and probably a pretty good idea. That's a guy that I've seen lift it more than anybody else. So I didn't think there were any kind of intentions there. Maybe he benefits from in the public space saying, no, like Tom Brady, I owe a lot of my success to him, but I thought it was nice. Am I whack for that? I would have preferred if he had said

they should rename it for me. There you go. Not me, Dan. Oh, but him, no. The Lovatar Trophy. I was all aboard for that one. I saw it get clipped. I'm like, you literally can't say anything.

This is such a nice compliment from the greatest at his job ever, complimenting the greatest ever at his job. They just so happen to be in the same place at the same time, and then people are running making takes out of it. I just think you can't name something after something that's already been named, right? And by the way, if I give you winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.

You give me the thing that Tom Brady said that was like, oh, that's on the same level. LFG. What if it's a body of water? I find that you cannot do this stuff for people who have played this recently. Like these trophies have to have some sort of past. They have to, you can't name it after somebody who stopped playing a couple of years ago. Right, plus what if Mahomes, five years, six years from now has won more Super Bowls than Brady?

Gonna call it the Mahomes Cup? Well, hold on. It should be, but Belichick should replace Lombardi though. Calling it the Belichick trophy, I mean Belichick is more successful. What do you mean no? I mean it's the Vince Lombardi trophy. Are you suggesting that maybe this was his intention? Yeah. No, there's an MVP award, that could be for Brady.

Yeah. But if we're actually going coaches, it's a guy who just had name it the Brady. The frozen tundra Not helpful. So let's play for the like John Ficente voice the frozen Less helpful even than before pretty nifty impression. We have even less helpful Let's get Lucy back and see if she could be less helpful Let's get some sound here from Stephen a Smith here and you guys tell me if I were to tell you that this was a private conversation

and this was not for television, Stephen A. Smith was pulling a father aside to tell him that he should not have his son deployed to fight in that particular war that seems to be going poorly if the tone and the cadence and the advice wouldn't be comparable? Right now, Ronnie James is averaging 0.3 points, 0.3 assists, and 0.4 rebounds

You know what people are saying? you know what they're going to do to this kid in 13 games He has played 44 minutes He has scored four points He is shooting one of 16 from the field zero for seven from three point range He is shooting one of 16 from the field, zero for seven from three point range.

How are you doing him favors? And I'm saying this with compassion. I'm asking the greatest player in the game, one of the top two players in the history of basketball, an ambassador for this game, the face of the league, a four-time champion, a guy that's gone to 10 NBA finals, one of the greatest we have ever or will ever see, who is a basketball savant. You know what these numbers mean. You know what it's gonna do to your son, to people who are missing out on opportunities that are busting their tail on other NBA teams in the G

League in Europe and everywhere else, what kind of opportunity they're starving for, you're exposing your son like this. I love the Stephen A. Crutch, I don't know if you guys ever noticed this, when he's making a take, is to just start naming things off a resume. He loves going to that. Like, if you talk about LeBron James,

the point he's trying to make, he has to like take a sidetrack to remind you, 17 time All-Star, 22 time this, that, that. Like none of these things support his point or further his point in any way. They're just words to let him kind of think of some other stuff. Why is Mad Dog so yellow in this clip?

Can we put that back up there please because this is jarring. He's listening the entire time and I feel like we could have put a paper mache mannequin of Mad back up there, please, because this is jarring. He's listening the entire time, and I feel like we could have put a paper mache mannequin of Mad Dog up there, because that lighting is so bad, it makes me think. And he's doing a Zoolander face for some reason. For real.

He looks like a Simpsons character. Oh, wow, that's a good call, Roy. It is the face of Jaundice. He looks like, what's, Lenny? Lenny, yes. Lenny from The Simpsons. That color is very poor lighting, it's doing him no favors, but that is a good look.

That right there, that's how he got the job. That is the reason that he is the giant that he is in the industry, why it is that he can share a space with Stephen A. Smith. I'm gonna do it now. He invented sports radio. He started his own satellite channel. Hold on, tell me, tell me that's not a good one.

Tell me that's not a good one. Yes. That is a Simpsons character on stage who is also on the screen, who is also yellow. It is, it is. It is the same thing really. Same haircut. What do you make of this just general parental concern

when Amin says of Belichick and when Mike says of the idea of anytime you put content out there, what it is there for, especially in the internet age, mostly in the internet age, is to be made fun of. It's to be a source of jokes. Duval. To create a content factory around what is a parental concern that I think is a little bit extreme, right? I mean this is a professional basketball player, son of a famous person who's been famous since he was 16 years old. The level of concern on and

furthermore whatever you're thinking of his basketball talents in the G League he's been better, correct? Like he's allowed to grow some, correct? Yeah, he just had a 30 point game in the G League. I think we all owe Bronnie James an apology. Uh oh, this is the other side of the story. No, as media, as people who consume and cover basketball, he's the 55th pick. No one has ever paid this much attention

to a player drafted at the end of the second round. And that player who was drafted at the end of the second round scored 31 points the other night in a G League game. He's averaging 23 points per game over his last three, shooting 46% from three. He's played really well at the G League level as a rookie second round pick. And now, at the big league level in the NBA, he gets torched by Tyrese Maxey, a great all-star caliber guard. It's gonna happen.

No one's paying attention to the games where Pella Larsen, a second round pick for the Heat, has 3 fouls in the first minute and a half, but if it was Brawny, we would be losing our minds nationally. And I'm so frustrated on his behalf that he can't just start an NBA career the way that any other kid drafted in that spot would be able to.

He works hard. I don't need Stephen A. Smith to tell me how to parent my son, okay? If you're the son of Rembrandt, you're allowed to try your hand at painting, knowing that you're never going to be your dad. Charlie Woods, perfectly entitled to take up a golf career, even though he's never going to be his dad.

It's ridiculous to not allow Brawny to try to fly on his own. Well, hold on a second. We are allowing it, and there are a lot of stops between the parental concern that Stephen A. Smith creates performatively to create content around the guy that you're going to be talking about and owing him an apology. There are a couple of exit ramps between those two things. I don't think I owe Bronnie James an apology

because he scored 30 in a G League game, but I do want to just address this is just another way to talk about LeBron in a way that connects with audience, correct? It's a new way to talk about LeBron in a way that connects with your audience that has fathers in it and now you can say on behalf of fathers you can have an interesting conversation about whether you're doing something good for your son or not by giving him a shortcut in a world that doesn't really allow those when it comes to roster spots very often. I think Jeremy made a good point in noting that he was drafted number 55.

I don't know what the history of 55th draft picks is, it can't be very good, and the idea is he came in without much expectation. He came in fifty-fifth. You don't, you know, it's not like we were expecting him to be an All-Star by now or to be, you know, starting for his team. It's crazy. Let him fail. Let him...

I mean, what's real here? What's true? What, between the two spots, what is the accurate basketball appraisal? The accurate basketball appraisal is the same one it was before the draft. This is someone who right now is not an NBA player, would get very well serviced to have a couple of years of development somewhere in a controlled environment. And then in a few years, he exhibits certain traits that maybe could be polished into a serviceable NBA rotation player that day is not anywhere soon.

And so when JJ Reddick says I put him in a tough spot, I said what's the spot? An NBA game? Because he looks like someone who's not an NBA player because he's not. That's real. As Jeremy pointed out, he's played well in the G League. He's only played three G League games. He's only played three G League games He's only played three games that he's played He's played ten overall because there was like the tournament

Technically and and in that he wasn't as good as he's been in life I'm talking about just regular and we're not talking about the showcase sure talking about hey I play for the team this these are my numbers. This is what I do. They've been good and like in three games though right like right the idea that like to me and I'm I can't speak as a parent I'm just speaking as a basketball person as a basketball sir person. You can speak as a parent. I can but I don't want to do that right this whole to me that's a performative this has nothing to do with LeBron as a parent right it

has everything to do with if you want the the this player to get better let him just stay in the g-league do not have a coming up on road trips and stuff because here's the thing a lot of people realize nbc teams don't practice a whole lot there's not a lot of practice time guys get shots up we watch a lot of film we do maybe some five on all seven once in a while will do a walk through on game day but it's not like you getting the type of development hard practices that you get in the g-league environment where

they're practicing in the planet pricing the plate the NBA it's like there's a lot of conserving of our guys we don't want them to go so when they say he's played well in the stay ready games what that is is because we don't practice as a team the guys who don't practice as a team, the guys who don't play either because at the end of the rotation or they're coming back from injury or whatever it is, those guys play in like little three on threes and two on twos and stuff like that because it's like, hey, just because you haven't been playing, you have to stay ready, stay conditioned. Well, that's nice for an nba player

to have something to keep sharp with it's not so great for a guy who's not an nba player you need five one five that's what the g league is for it is a minor league so that we can send our guys somewhere where they run our offense where they have our principles and he can get better in that controlled environment where not everybody is 9 million times better than he is. It's pointed out to me that this is a new and improved down levatar show with the stugas.

Gamble on by DraftKings. Hey there wellness warriors. If you're like me, you've given a lot of thought to how to improve your health and wellness routine this year. I've started stretching more, do a little mindfulness and meditation every day, try to clear my mind, make my body feel right. Take your health routine to the next level with the magic of contrast therapy. Meet our new amazing sponsor, Redwood Outdoors. They're making it easy to bring the benefits of saunas and cold plunges right to your backyard. A Redwood Outdoors backyard sauna seats two to eight people where you can relax, unwind

and enjoy all the benefits like reduced muscle tension, improved sleep, and glowing skin. And it doesn't stop there. Redwood Outdoors invigorating cold plunge helps to boost circulation, sharpen your focus and leave you feeling absolutely revitalized. Whether it's detoxing deeper, reducing inflammation, or connecting with loved ones in moments of peace, Redwood Outdoors has you covered. Enhance your physical and mental wellness routines with Redwood Outdoors.

Take advantage of special savings today. Visit redwoodoutdoors.com, use code DAN to save $175. That's redwoodoutdoors.com, code DAN, to save $175 on your order. Redwoodoutdoors.com, code DAN. Folks, the playoff season is here, and the only thing better than the game day predictions are the foods that come with them. Introducing Tums fantasy food ball pool brought to you by Tums, America's number one antihacet brand and DraftKings.

Each week leading up to the big game turned football into food ball by building your best game day plate for a shot at winning a share of $40,000 in cash prizes. Inspired by Game Day Bites and Tailgate Treats, join the Tums Foodball action during this playoff season's most heartburn-inducing times. Visit DraftKings.com slash Tums Foodball between January 6th and February 9th to enter for free and select your game day plate before the start of each playoff round. Age and eligibility restrictions apply. Void where prohibited.

See terms at DraftKings.com slash TumsFoodball. When you feel the heat of the game, don't let the heartburn keep you on the sidelines. Try TumsChewyBites with a tasty outer shell and soft center for fast relief of heartburn, acid indigestion, and upset stomach. Check out TumsGummyBites featuring a soft and easy-to-chew format for fast relief of occasional heartburn, acid indigestion, sour stomach, and upset stomach. Check out Tums Gummy Bites featuring a soft and easy to chew format for fast relief of occasional heartburn, acid indigestion, sour stomach and upset stomach. Both available at Amazon, Target and other major retailers nationwide. And for more heartburn relief fun,

be sure to follow Tums at TumsOfficial on Instagram and TikTok.