The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The International Sound of Whatever

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

Inter Miami did not win last night...but they also did not lose. With the fans forming by the minute in Miami, Amin and Dan debate the demographic fandom of soccer in the United States. Then, the Magic Crate of Content returns! Plus, Florida is an underdog against Utah, Dan wants to discuss the Izzy-Amin debacle, and Rashad McCants infuriates Gilbert Arenas. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite, presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Inter Miami did not win last night. Did not lose, has not lost with messy yet. We were talking yesterday because this story to me is fascinating.

An international superstars come over here to make soccer, matter, and America, has done it in our city, which is really good at this particular thing. If you never lose, we'll love you forever. If you are the best and keep being the best, we are a great bandwagon town, and this town cares about, I would say, soccer differently

than almost any place in the United States. I think I can say that because- How's the way you mean to do that? Oh, it's just so, I believe Dave County is still the only county in America, one of the few that is more than 50% a minority. It is a majority and the Hispanic, it's a lot of different Hispanic cultures. And so it's not just where Americans are interested in soccer, but Latin America, our city, you have a lot of people here, a lot who don't

speak English, who just don't speak English, who just don't speak English, and I see them all over the place wearing the message jerseys. And as he tries, and Apple tries, and MLS tries, to make soccer a bigger sport here, I don't think of a better way that you can do it, than get the biggest star in the world, have him scoring a bunch of goals,

and have him playing games that are interesting, even when there's zero, zero, like yesterday's was. Yeah, it's clear that you spent your time away just watching the race, and you miss some really exciting little messy matches, but in trying to welcome everybody aboard, and one of the things that I've noticed down here, people are asking for the games at sports bars.

You would never be able to watch it in Miami at a sports bar, really, unless it was a branded event. But one of the things that I've noticed down here, people are asking for the games at Sports Bars. You would never be able to watch it in Miami at a Sports Bar really unless it was a branded event. People are asking for sound on in the Sports Bars. It's pretty wild to see the community really rally around this huge event. But in welcoming everybody in, they got on board with the Leagues Cup, which is a brand new competition, and every time they looked at the standings, they were very confused. Wait, how are they winning this, but they're last place. And you try to explain US Open Cup the same exact way.

They're in the final of that, that'll be on September 27th. That's also confusing to folks. The only thing that the new people to the sport here in the States are really understanding is the MLS standings, which in Miami were at the very bottom of when Messi came aboard. So last time was the second ever MLS regular season game. It was his first ever MLS home match, and it was a scoreless draw against a really good

Nashville team that drew Miami in the League's Cup final, has the largest soccer-specific stadium in the United States, a great team, and I thought they played masterful defense. Masterful. There was nothing available to enter Miami direct. They were man-marking Messi with three guys, and Miami for whatever reason couldn't get it outside.

Miami was actually fortunate to get the point. But if you look at the savings right now, they're second from the bottom. They did get some help yesterday, but when you consider that this team has an international break that they have to deal with and players that aren't messy got called into their national teams Martinez, Grema, Drake Allender, the goalie that became a star in the league's cup final. It's gonna be hard to navigate. There's three games, three matches being played during that international window where

they won't have the likes of messy. And from what I can gather, it seems as though people knew to this board will say it's an epic disappointment if this team that Messi joins mid-season doesn't make the playoffs. And it's an almost an insurmountable hole that they've dug themselves.

But if they do it, then I think everyone can connect with that story. Loaded excuse making. Loaded excuse making. Hey, loved excuses making. Hey, how about that PK that didn't call? It was all side. Yeah, yeah, so undone. Yeah, it was a handball.

It looked to me like it was a handball. I was surprised by the VAR, but it turns out it was all side. So that's what happened there. That dismissive sound, I don't think that's the way an argument should work on a large media forum where someone said something and the only response from the person on the other side is he's soft as teet

when you're in the middle yeah because everyone knows everyone knows that that's an international sound of whatever that's that i know you're big uh... honey muctar fan, the rating MLS MVP. And Nashville. Nashville is a great team. And I think that, look, throughout the league's cup, they would tie teams.

They had a 4-4 draw at FC Dallas. So it's not like they were just running through these teams. They ran into difficult opposition, but they would find a way to win it in either extra time or PKs. In the regular season, 90 minutes are up. You get a draw, you get one point from that. 180 minutes against Messi, and I don't know who's the best player

with team him in Muhtar. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. It's all this holo blue, all of this, you're not even the best player in MLS. How about that? All this holo blue. The Reno Montana is over, but Mutarmessi is back on.

They have not lost since he's been here and I believe I'm telling you we are as a bandwagon town, we are uniquely qualified to show up and care about well, it came from last place, you added the best player in the world and now you're trying to climb up the standings by never losing. We can support sports that way. That's, that is the Miami sports fan. That's what, man, the obnoxious University of Miami football fan was born on.

We win every home game for five straight years. We win all the time. You will not see us lose. Miami is only good in sports at that Particular legents of give us the sparkly thing and we will front run with the best up them While we're on the topic of deflating you guys here Dan earlier you said that like Miami is the only city in America Where it is a majority minority turns out I didn't say that I said one of that. I said one of the few, Dave County, one of the few. I said, and I also said it might not be true anymore. It was true once upon a time.

It was an answer in the New York Times crossword last week. Like biggest majority Hispanic County in the US, Miami, date. I got it. So you're right. Fourteen out of the 15 biggest cities in America are majority minority and As of 2015 12% of all counties in America are majority minority So you believe Miami is not incredibly ethnic you believe a lot of places are as ethnic Are you guys having to move the goal post off right now? We're doing a set. We're doing you as senses What I'm doing you are you saying we're not uniquely ethnic? That's what you're saying.

You're ethnic, you're not uniquely ethnic. No, it's not unique because it turns out 14 other cities or 13 other cities in the top 15 have the same characters. I'm good moving on, but I do think that the only thing that people knew to the sport are really understanding and trying to explain it to them is the standings, because they can Google that. And it's going to be really impressive if they do find their way into the playoffs.

And, you know, beating Nashville would have been immense. Nashville's a very good team, and very tough to break down defensively, and they only got one point, and like I said, they were were fortunate to do so but i think they got some help with the montreal and chicago results as of twenty nineteen six states six states are majority of minority florida's not one of them though don't add up there i know i'm saying that apologize please uh... i'm i'm telling them

because then sometimes gets caught up in how unique Miami is and sometimes some of these things aren't that unique, Dan. I mean, they're true. It is a multicultural ethnic melting pot. It's just not that unique. So go ahead and tell me all of the cities that you believe that would be ethnically diverse enough Hispanic-wise because culturally soccer to Hispanics means a slightly more I would say to the world Then it does to Americans so you tell me all of the cities and cultures that you believe

Like name some of the cities that you believe would be more fervent about getting around Winning in soccer than Miami is because you have so many different nationalities down here that care about it New York LA Houston San Antonio Chicago Phoenix My god, why are we doing this? Stop it from talking

Stop it from talking. Da da da da da da da da. It is time for a random topic and the topic today is, when do you put your napkin on your lap that a fancy restaurant? Time out. We're calling it a random topic. I don't know why he did that. It's a magic trick because I don't have it. We don't have a crate.

Alright, here we go. Grab a topic. Where's the crate? I think it's in Sir Gats's house. It here we go. Grab a topic. Where's the crate? Ha ha ha! I think it seems to got his house. It's right there. I see it. Here's the topic. I grabbed it. This is not how we play this game. The magic trait of crate of content

has not been around here in a while. We had to call a quick audible, Dan. This is us acting on our feet. On our toes. That's it. Ba da da da da da da da da. Who's that question? What was the question, Kim? On our toes. Nothing. Ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- I usually do it after the waiter takes my menu. That's when I'll put it on my lap. After you order so before the food arrives. Yes, once the menu's off the table, napkin time.

For me, it's right when the first piece of food arrives. That's when the napkin goes on the list. Yes, yes. Mm-hmm. I whip it out. I make a whole show of it. It's folded up. I put it out.

I like to put my napkin in a little triangle. Do you guys do this? You have a square napkin. I'm going to turnkin in a little triangle. Do you guys do this? You have a square napkin. I'm going to turn it into a little triangle and then I lay it on my lap. A triangle? No. What do you do?

I take the square napkin. I connect two corners, so now it's a triangle. So now it's half as big as it was before? I don't need a blade. I'm not trying to warm my legs. No, you need a little napkin on my right leg. It's not to keep your warm. That's why I make it smaller.

It's to protect your hands. No, it's for my hand. If my hand, I'm not like, for me, the napkin's on your right leg and it's just if my hand, if I need something to clean my hand with. Am I, am I misunderstanding what napkins are for? I am also think, I think I'm misunderstanding it too. I thought it was to protect my- Protect your cold.

You have to cross your- You guys put the napkin across your full lab bowl Yes, no, I'm the only one I put it on both but I That's it. What do you think of napkin as for Chris? It's just for like if I have like my hands get dirty I can like rub it's just so I'm not wiping my clothes It's something to wipe my hands with I've never put a napkin on my lap.

Never. Three of my armors off this. Really? I don't know. Wait, do you tuck it into your shirt, too? Neither, nor. I'm a real amount of dope. So I don't feel things.

I'm sorry. I thought what I'm saying. Now, this is not for, I'm not a child. The napkin is not on my lap for spilling. My napkin is just in case I need to clean my hand off. If I'm at a state house, and they have a white napkin is just in case I need to clean my hand off. If I'm at a stay-house, and they have a white napkin, I request a black one. Ooh, nice, red one.

Why? Because you don't want to get the look on this. Yes, all the time. Why? But, I don't know. Most restaurants just have one standard napkin. No, no, no, no. So you go to a stay-house worth a day

and they will be it. They either have the black napkins already out, or if they don't, you can request one and they'll bring a black one. I've only ever seen this move on TV, I've never seen a person do this in real life. My dad does it. I never get the cloth napkins they use, disgusting, everybody that's used them, they've got it. They put them in a washing machine or whatever, I always ask for a paper napkin and straw

with this wrapped up. Don't bring no straw to my table, which will finger on it, boy. Bada da da da da da. You order straws? Yes, you see me in action. I bring my own straw everywhere I go. Thank you, sir. Ah, I order black straws.

Why the napkin color swits? Because if you go to a place like a steakhouse, you're gonna get sauce everywhere. You don't wanna have, that's unseemly. You have a napkin with sauce on your life. We have sauces flying out of everyone that I've ever had. If you're surprised, who's looking in your lab? Guys, you're uncultured. It's also if the white napkin can maybe rub off on black clothes. I thought it was a clothes that you're wearing. Yeah, I thought it was racism Don't let it hard Still got I always like leave a hand on the chicken Is he so vulnerable? I just unfairly fade down the chicken, so just leave him by himself.

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That comes courtesy of Brett McMurphy on X. I like to think that he's actually on X-Six. When I say, yeah. Yeah. It feels so good. So soft. Lucy and Jessica will be giving you some strong college football coverage recap preview a little bit later in the show.

Florida State and LSU is the big game of the weekend. Although, I mean, Utah has to be the best quiet as it's kept power, strange power in college sports. The winning 10 games every year, Utah being legitimately good and formidable when they have no reason or right to be formidable and have a touchdown point spread advantage against Florida, which has a lot of athletes.

Florida beat them last year at the swamp, and this line is curious because Cameron Rising, the Utah starting quarterback is not playing in this game. Florida beat them last year at the swamp. And this line is curious because Cameron rising, the Utah starting quarterback is not playing in this game. It is interesting, Dan, because they've won the PAC-12 the last two seasons, Utah. They have one of the highest paid offensive coordinators in the sport, Andy Ludwig.

And yet, every year, we're like, oh yeah! Maybe this is just our East Coast bias. I'm like, oh yeah, Utah. Oh, look at Uncle Kyle. Uncle Kyle is making. I'm gonna do it yeah, Utah. Oh, look at Uncle Kyle. Uncle Kyle's making. I'm gonna do it again. He's making less money than Deon Sanders.

As a team that's been to multiple Rose Bulls, one Rose Bull, I believe. It's hard given how popular college football has become. And I really have a hard time with this because I keep assuming that at some point in our future, being this greedy about just trampling tradition and everything that college football has been in the name of dollars

that there will be a cost to that, to make it minor league football, that's that professional. Avertly, you take off the mask, I think there's gonna be a cost, but I might be wrong just because football is so popular that people want minor league football. I just didn't know that you could be Utah quietly, that you could, whether

you play on the West Coast or not, that you could be a program that wins 10 games a year, a lot, and has been good for, I don't know, the last decade, formidable, like a team that Oregon's sure shit doesn't want to play when Mario Christophe right before Christophe is getting the money, the way Utah is a school that is getting players and it's not like Boise State or a Mac team getting good. Utah has been excellent for a while but hasn't won the big championship.

And I just think it's our bias that they're usually in the conversation. By the way, updated line courtesy of our friends over a DK sportsbook with cameraizing being doubtful for this game. It's down to four and a half, but still favored against a team that they lost to last year with their backup quarterback at home. Cam rising out. The line is falling. It's falling. I heard you the first.

All right, Severn. I thought last Thursday. I've had about enough of this. I need to address some things going on with the mean that have evidently been going on since last week. Okay, I'm gonna read. This is, I am often the woods looking for the same God that Tony found in North Carolina, trying to disconnect from everything. And I got hit. I'm just going to read some of these. There were so many of them. I just so much of it criticizing a mean. I felt second hand embarrassment for the whole show. Izzy became instantly unlikable while a mean now seems like a person I can't take seriously ever again. Both are way too emotional over petty spats

that hold zero value to us listeners. A mean was a short tempered, I'm not gonna say the word, and shouldn't have left, but then is he couldn't let it go and he kept coming back to it? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What was the word, brother? What does it start with? Yeah, what's the letter? What's the letter? It could start with almost any other letter.

It starts with a B. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Not great. But is equity areas came in to Lebedard show and was an asshole all week calling people fat, insulted everyone, and then when a mean is tired of it, is he get sensitive and tries to use the gay card with the setup? What happened last week? I truly enjoy a mean in his comedic style on every show he's on, but he 100% has a bad ego and is way too sensitive I don't think someone played the gay card. I really don't know if anyone played that. I don't know what that card looks like. What is that? No, it's a great card. I love the card if anyone played that. I don't know what that card looks like. What is that? I don't know if it's an awesome card.

It's a great card. I love the card. Support the card. I just want to the card. Rainbow. I'm not going to get into this, but I don't think anyone actually played that card. Salute to you, Izzy, for dealing with a mean.

What happened? I mean, I'm tired of avoiding the subject. The audience is demanding that I speak on it when I don't know what the hell happened. And I asked you what happened while I was gone and you just said there was a course interaction and didn't give me any more information. Yeah, I don't feel like it's,

I don't think it's like it's noteworthy. I don't think it's anything that we need to revisit. Last week was last week. If you wanna talk to me about it off air, I'll happy talk to you about it. But like I just don't think it's- Well, I want to talk to me about it off air I'll happily talk to you about it but like I just don't think it's like clearly want to talk to you about it on it I don't want to talk about on it I don't I don't know what you want from it I don't want to talk about it I just want to know what happened because if I'm getting hit from every angle

people are saying Dan handle this Dan comment on it Dan uh tell us what happened and I'm asking you what happened because I haven't talked to Izzy and I don't know what happened unbelievable please ask me a US sense of question but Dan last night Nebraska women's volleyball broke the record for the most fans in the world. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that.

That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that.

That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. made by a Barcelona game last April, which was I think 90,000. So just narrowly beat it. It is a great time to be a women's sports fan. You put people in front of a lot of fans. People are going to come to the games. They want to watch the Women's volleyball team in Nebraska. In a football stadium, and that what, to me,

I was moved seeing the faces of the players come into, like walk into lights and be truly Odd by what was happening around them. It was very neat. Did she just play the woman card? It's on that card. I don't like that awesome card. It's a great card. Oh, love to have this card. Yes. I wish all the cards were that card Can you guys we it's a queen. Queen of hearts. It's a queen of hearts, yes. It looks like Jeff Engen.

But I don't want that card. Oh. Can you guys get for me, please? You have like MX cards, don't you? We're gonna need... Get for me the historic sound and video that I mean. I mean couldn't stop marveling at the idea that someone in the world has opinions on sports that are so egregious that they make perpetual court jester gilbert arinis

who once laughed at a man who had a gun in his face they make uh... his statements rachad mccance statements make gilbert arinis crazy angry because rachad mccance says things very often that are nuts we will play this clip for you in a moment uh... will show you Kenyan Martin's reaction, Gilbert Arenis' reaction. Really quickly. I don't even know what the clip is. That's how many times he does it to Gilbert.

I don't even know which one you're saying. Okay, the one I'm talking about and we'll play it later. But the one I'm talking about, Rashad Mccante is taking up my grind side and saying that I believe a team in Lebanon play it later, but the one I'm talking about, Rashad McCann's is taking up my grind side and saying that I believe a team in Lebanon that Rashad McCann's played on, he says they could beat the nuggets. This is not my side.

My side was just flatly. It is accurate to say that it's not a true world championship. It's a North American championship in the NBA. And then you guys have me having Shane Larkin beating LeBron in a seven-game story. I stand corrected and I like a mean taking a real leadership role. I will apologize. I stand corrected. Mike Ryan did not say thank you that Rashad McCann. Guys kept on a change as I was saying. I'm not done with my apology. Mike Ryan, I'm sorry.

There's more. I'm sorry. Mike Ryan did not say that Rashad McCance's Lebanon team could beat the nuggets. He did say Shane Larkin's Turkey team could beat the nuggets. Yeah, that's right. Do you have that? Say that. That is fine. Do we clap out of that one?

We have a wine card. Well, now it's on that card. Good on you, yes. Joker. It's a guy that's got a pop card. It would be his two got wearing that weight belt on his head with frozen peas on his swollen cheek. That is correct. That was amazing. By the way, what a performance by Stugas. He's sound terrible. I'm just glad he's not driving today. It is one of the most amazing things in a career that is truly amazing that Stugots would not protect his voice.

It's so self-destructing. It really is remarkable. I mean, Celine Dion is drinking these teas to make sure that her career does not get impacted. She's dealing with stuff, man. That's really unfortunate. I know, but you've got to protect your voice. It's like you can look awful, Stugots. You can look haggard as much as you want. Face swollen, unshaven bags under your eyes.

You can smell awful. You can have horrible hygiene Stugots. You could just leak of just older, body odor, and pungent smells. You can not clip your fingernails, your toenails, have dirt cake up underneath them, building. So that every time you reach over with those sausage fingers towards Dan, Dan recoils instinctively because he doesn't want to come in the contact with the filth that you are But the one thing you cannot

Disregard is the money maker turn off all the cameras to got you still sound horrible Why is that funny It is not funny It's not funny. It's so funny. Don Lebertard. That's how it's going to end. The mailing and end of the retirement Chris go get me this is just going to be him coming out and hitting the one or two notes of that kind of thing and you know it and then just giving us finger guns and leave it. Baby. You should listen to the Great Cody Show podcast because that's all we do for 55 minutes a week is just say catch phrases.

We even make songs about them. And you know it is a song for crying out loud. That's great. Hopefully that's a sui nominee for best song. And you know it. Baby and you know it. Still gots. And you know it.

Baby and you know it.ugats Baby and you know it Baby and you know it Baby and you know it Baby and you know it Baby and you know it This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats Even with the strike of the writers and the actors, I think you listening to this right now, if you're looking for the distractions of content because there are so many people

making podcasts, if you're discerning, you could create a menu of entertaining things that aren't the listening habits of your father or grandfather or grandmother because podcasts a lot of people have rushed into this space like Gilbert Arinas who is doing good fun work has always been entertaining and the thing that we were talking about last segment that he did with Rashad McCann's and Kenyan was there as well. I don't actually care whether what he is saying the argument is right or wrong. I'm more interested in seeing how appalled and disrespected Kenyan Martin and Gilbert Arena's feel because Rashad McCans has the audacity to say that his team in Lebanon could play with the Denver Nuggets.

Who did you play for? I play for a lot of teams. No, what's your name one? Lebanon. Lebanon, what's the name of your team? Uh, Hometman. Hometman, y'all teams can beat the different nuggets? We have a chance.

No, you can't, now get the f*** out of here. What the f*** out of here? Let's move on, man. I'm not gonna live. Reaction, go back to that for a second just so that you could look at the face of Kenyan Martin when he discovers that Rashad Minkant believes Lebanon could beat the NBA champs. Who did you play for?

I play for a lot of teams. No, what's your name one? Lebanon. Lebanon, what's the name of your team? Uh, commitment. Permitment. Your team can beat the different others? We have a chance.

No, you can't not get the f*** out of here. Get the f*** out of here. Let's go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So disrespectful. I don't know if it's true or not. I think it was Yao Ming who alleged at one point. The Kenyan Martin had a Chinese tattoo that he thought meant warrior, but the word actually was like noodles or something. It was the wrong word. Kenyan Martin's disgust in that video is something that I would never want someone who cares about me to feel that disgusted with who I am He seems let's one more time play it. He seems totally asleep Board by the content right up until McCants claims Lebanon could be Denver What did you play for a lot of tea? No, what's your name one? Lebanon? What what's the name of your team?

Lebanon. Lebanon. What's the name of your team? Uh, commitment. Tell me, man, your team can beat the different others. We have a chance. No, you can't not get the f*** out of here. Get the f*** out of here. Let's go, man. Let's move on. I'm not gonna let.

Let's move on, is it? It's so much more disrespectful to like wait, exhale, and then tell someone they're being stupid than just to write off the bapy. Like, you're being stupid, which is the perfect amount of pause. I have to point out though, Kenya Martin is a no nonsense dude, right? This is a dude that was feared everywhere he went. So him going with a very subtle, get the f**k out of here. Let's move on. It's hilarious, but not quite as hilarious as Gilbert Aurena's the man who laughed when a loaded gun was waved in his face Left that's the the legend goes when I went up

Debar's Crittenden entered the locker room Gilbert had three guns on the chair told him a pick one Crittenden said I don't have to pick one. I got one of my own pulls it out and then said, I don't have to pick one, I got one of my own, pulls it out, cocks it, the locker room evacuates, and Gilbert sat back in his chair and laughed. This is how little this guy takes anything seriously. Listen to how angry he is. Look at his face, he is livid, livid, livid.

What'd you play for? I play for a lot of teams. No, what's your name one? Lebanon. Lebanon, what's the name of your team? Uh, commitment. Permitment. Y'all teams can beat the different, none of others. We have a chance. You can't get the

fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Let's go for 200. Let's move on man. You can't. I'm not gonna live. Loose by 200 is such a funny statement because scoring 200 points in a basketball game is already an amazing feat. He's saying you would lose. basketball game is already an amazing feat. He's saying you would lose. But how do you feel because Gilbert Aurena says, always been entertaining, but I remember talking to him in a South Beach session, in which he talked,

five dollars, he talked about the idea that his personality was almost entirely neutered by going through that scandal. He tried to be playful after the gun scandal. He actually got suspended not for the guns, but for coming out afterward, introduced before a game doing finger guns and being disrespectful of stern is what got him gone and ever since then because he didn't realize what the consequences were going to be to that. He had to temper his personality, the rest of his time in the league. I don't know if you've heard him recently.

He hates Stan Van Gundy. Hades Stan Van Gundy talks about him in the most poisonous of terms, but his personality was largely neutered. And on this setting, with no real consequences, he's allowed to be most himself. And he's always been one of the most interesting players in the league. And his podcast goes beyond what I would say most podcasts, if you even play a podcast, he is next level,

caustic, toxic, but hilarious. I mean, that's Gilbert. That's Gilbert. That's who he is. That's the space he wants to occupy. He loves being in a space where he's beholden to nothing and it's what makes the podcast simultaneous incredibly entertaining and also incredibly

kind of irresponsible at times. Some of the things that they say are just wildly incorrect, but that's the beauty of that podcast is funny. It's always entertaining. One of the things that's the beauty of that podcast is funny. It's always entertaining. One of the things that's happening throughout the content industry because there are so many people living and working by different rules, you're getting a lot of podcasts that are getting traction when Dremont Green says, new media, that like Gilbert Arinas, like Cameron,

they don't have to adhere to any kind of rules because they're microphones, they're employing themselves and they're not thinking or worrying about the consequences that mainstream media has to worry about. It's why it's a more unfiltered and honest look of what locker room talk can look like when you tell the athlete, hey, here's a microphone Just be yourself do locker room talk. There's money in it. Right and but like and they found the money I don't know if they did it for the money though, right?

Like can and may they just sign a big deal and congratulate and congratulations to them But I don't think they did it from the money. They did it because they're like, you know what, we always have these fun conversations. It'll be funny if we recorded it and broadcast it. Same thing with Gilbert. And his co-host, Josiah Johnson, like I don't know Gilbert did it

because he was looking for a check. I think he did it because he's always been this character. You know, people forget, this was the first guy who had a blog, like a first active athlete who said, I'm going to tell you my day to day, and it's not gonna be woke up. Went to practice. It was good. He was talking about stuff about like pranking Nick Young. He was talking about his birthday party where he spent like,

I think 250 grand on it, and the invites were all on black cards, the arenas expressed black cards. He was telling you like what life was actually like for one of the wildest guys in the NBA. I'm not accusing him of doing it for money. I'm saying there's also money in it. Sure. I believe that many of these people who are coming into this space are doing it because, like Draymond Green, they are tired of the filter between them and the audience that tells a story through

an intermediary because at every point in the past when an athlete before now and the democratization, the meritocracy of, if you can get ears yourself, go ahead and do it. These guys always had to go to an entity and then feed the entity content and get nothing in return for it while also getting their message diluted or stripped down or analyzed by someone else. Here, they just go directly to consumer.

They go straight with whatever their message is without any of the inhibitions, and they don't have to actually help the media that they don't trust make money off of what they're saying. They can own all their own shit, and if you can own all your own shit, and there are fewer consequences, and you can talk directly to the consumer, of course,

athletes are gonna flood into that space, wanting their voice heard correctly, not through an intermediary. I mean, the conversations you have on the air with athletes and the conversations you'll have with them off the air are entirely different. And the interesting part now with media members and our behavior becomes you really have to fall into one of two buckets, either your entirely confrontational in order to get the attention of these athletes and thus interacted them on social media, do the types of things that we see with Stephen A. Smith

and Skip Bayless, or you kind of almost have to kiss their ass because if not, why are they going to come to you and talk to you? There's not a really great level of just the responsible journalists who's in and out of the locker room or the clubhouse being able to criticize and also still get that access in the same way. And that's the thing when I'll push back on you to criticize and also still get that access in the same way. And that's, that's the thing I'll push back on you, Dan. You're talking about like in the past, they got nothing out of it. They got a lot out of it.

They got a lot of, Michael Jordan got a lot out of his relationship with Michael Wilbond. That's just a fact, right? Like the star players having relationships with credible media people, not, you know, askissers to kind of paraphrase what Jeremy's talking about. It helped them get their message and get their brand out to a lot more people in a way that was somewhat sanitized because you know this,

because you're from the era where you guys would see shit and they're like, we're not gonna, I'm not gonna include this in the story. Even though the guy didn't say, this is off the record or whatever, you just knew better. You used discretion. So absolutely athletes in the past benefited. Now, the same swath, like back then it was certain people. Now a dream on green who maybe, you know, early in his career would never have gotten the kind of media attention that a player of his caliber could get. Now he can get that, right? Or Jeff Teague, who's a great example of a guy who's got a podcast that's got a lot of traction

this summer. Jeff Teague was like a one-time all-star. So this is a guy who typically gets a lot of attention, even if he's saying regular stuff. Forget about filter unfiltered. It's giving a voice to people who were just kind of cogs in the machine before i don't mean or didn't mean to say that they don't get anything from the relationship they didn't get anything with that they don't get money back what i'm not but when you go you're giving away your product draymond and lebron have figured out not more man no more i'm not giving away my product

for free to the media so that Fox and ESPN and everyone else can make the money off of what I'm saying. I think that the most substantive change is right there. Why should I give the headlines to someone else? I will profit off them myself. Right, and money is to them, it's more important than being popular, they can be popular.

Already, I play with Steph Curry, I need an extra attention. I just knocked out Jordan Poole on your extra attention. It's like I can be myself and make money for this. This is awesome. I love the new media. I love the debates. I love all of it. You feel me salute to the Gilberler-Renas, salute the Josiah Johnson. Keep doing your thing, brothers. It is a substantive and interesting change that I am looking forward to see what the next 10 years of evolution of look like.