The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Isaiah Hartenstein Floaters

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

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Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants

just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. It is time for Stu Gatz to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you

what happened better than my boy Stu. Weekend observations brought to you by Miller Lite. Din, they were down 2-0, two home losses at the world's most famous arena. People celebrated Tyrese Halliburton for making one of the worst decisions in the history of basketball and for thinking he ended the game when in fact he did not. You practically held a funeral for the Knicks.

You wrote them off. Well, guess what? They did it right back because they went on the road and they saved their season. And Dan, just like that, make no mistake about it. The New York Knicks are back. You say that and I don't agree with you. What do you mean? They're not back? They won because Brunson. You didn't hold the funeral. Brunson was in foul trouble. Smart shot. Brunson and Kat playing together is a defensive disaster. Brunson ranks 147th out of 147th on plus minus defensive metal that math friends yes dorks they won because Brunson was out that's the reason

they can't play cat and Brunson together says who defensive metrics have aro Abbott. Who was it? Math friends. Speaking of back. Sunderland. Welcome back to the Premier League. The Black Cats. Also back. Ronald Acuna Junior. 467 feet. Dead center, first pitch back. That guy. That's crazy.

That first pitch back, you can't throw it over the plate to him. He's got to know, right, that I'm swinging at the first pitch no matter what, because if I do hit a home run, that shit is cool. Also back, the red clay at Roland Garros. home run. That **** is cool. Also back the red clay at Roland Garros. Four things back long weekend, Dan. That is a lot of backs. Yeah. Nori just

beat Medvedev. Get out of here. Yeah. He's out. Yeah. I'm telling you. This is back from the dead. It's a different tournament. It really is Love that clay. How great was that tribute to Rafa? It was awesome Yeah, the four legends of the generation see his kid high-fiving the other three. It was awesome. It was nice. Yeah Cute kid is

His arm also a lot larger than his other kids they were saying that that large of the. Lawd to the Federer's. That should've been the way that they honored Rava instead of like forever having a footprint in the clay. Just a huge left arm. An arm that looked like a thigh. Yeah. Dan, when the Knicks are down 20,

you know where they have you? Right where they want you. Yeah, you're on your game. 20 points is the most dangerous lead in basketball. Dan, I'll never forget where I was when a lineup with DeLone Wright and Landry Shammet saved the Knicks season. That's Shammet three in the corner was huge. Massive. And the offensive foul. in the corner was huge. Massive.

And the offensive foul. No idea it was a Nick. Again, they won because Brunson had to sit. Yeah. Are you saying the Knicks are better without Brunson? I'm saying they're better. What are you saying? I'm saying they're better.

What are the math guys saying? They're better at defense without Brunson. That they show every time Thibodeau goes in and out with Brunson on defense the last two minutes of any game. Tom Thibodeau trying out new lineups in a must-win game. You know what that was of course right Dan? Throw in the kitchen sink at everything but the kitchen sink game. Man, you are on it, Bibbs. Oh. Yes. I fired him at half-time. Yeah, I mean, Mitchell Robinson's a fun player to watch.

He is. Problem is you can't burn him out for 46 minutes. He needs to play like 19 minutes. And you just can't. He's not fun to watch at the free throw line. Like, as Stan was saying the other day during the game, every time he grabs an offensive rebound, just foul it. I can hear Stan's eye rolls sometimes at Reggie.

Good. Stan's gonna be on this week. I wanna hear you ask him that. There was a moment with like 30 seconds left and Reggie's like, you gotta foul here. And your math friends were probably losing their minds. No, you don't. No, you don't. And you could hear the eyes rolling on SVG

at that one bit of analysis. Why didn't anyone roll their eyes at Richard Jefferson saying both teams were literally playing for their lives in game three, OKC Minnesota? For all my objections to it, I'm just saying, you can't say OKC is playing for their lives. They're up two-oh. I'll take game for your life, whatever someone to say game for your life I don't care.

How do you know he didn't have inside info? Right. 33 seconds. The spread between the teams is three. They have a shot at the two for one. No you don't Reggie! No you don't! Put it on the poll please Juju at Levitard Show. Can a team that's up two oh literally be playing for their lives? I'm sorry to be so mad about it. They're still up if they lose. The game didn't matter at all though, Casey.

Like at all, nevermind being for their lives. According to you, not according to him. They could have just not come to the game and it wouldn't have mattered. I'm just considering maybe we didn't have all the information going into the end and then they won after they lost their lives Right hard to do impossible feet. They should win the series. I mean, let's just move on Nick's Pacers the rare Eastern Conference finals that just keeps starting Home team went again.

Scott Foster did what Scott Foster does. The extender, the extender sounds like a great Jason Statham movie. What does it sound more like a Jason Statham movie or a Jimmy Johnson commercial for erectile pills. Whoa! Wow! Wow. That's a good one. One of the most shocking things of my lifetime commercially

was seeing Jimmy Johnson in a race suit, a race car suit. Extensive. Yes, doing commercials for something that makes your pee pee longer. Boing. Well, I commercials for something that makes your peepee longer. Boing. Well, I don't know, longer. You're Jimmy. You had to go boing now? I did. Johnson. That was no sound effect either, by the way. I created that. It was literally the best sound effect I've ever made myself. The Nixon Pacers are a combined 12 and 2. This playoff's on the road. Road court advantage.

Both teams would sign up today for only road games. Do you believe that? I do not. I don't think the Knicks like playing in the Mecca. Weird. I spent the entire third quarter coming up with trades to get Carl Anthony Towns off the Knicks and spent the entire fourth quarter saying he was the best Nick of all time. It's quite the roller coaster these games. TJ McConnell leads the NBA in pesky. Campaign leads the NBA in

irrational confidence. The Mario Chalmers top five players in NBA history who had the most irrational confidence. He has naming rights. Number five, Ruben Patterson. For dubbing himself the Kobe Stopper. Number four, J.R. Smith. Number three. I saw him, by the way. You haven't lived until you experience the NBA playoffs the way that I did this weekend. I was right near Madison Square Garden when it emptied.

It was very quiet as it emptied on Saturday night. It was just as empty, just as quiet Sunday morning, but I did see right in front of my hotel smoking a joint in the street, JR Smith, and it made me feel good about where I was in the world. Huh. Seems right. That doesn't sound like him.

Is he coaching somewhere? He is, I think. He's golfing pretty well, too. No, like him City coaching somewhere. He is Golfing pretty well to know he's a coach. He's a great golfer and he was just right. I will not get college I will not get used to Being in New York City and seeing people smoke openly in the street, but to have JR Smith do it felt right. Yes, I Saw JR Smith one time at Dayland Mall without a shirt. Just in the mall, no shirt, nobody said anything to him. Smoking? Not smoking.

When he got outside, yeah. But in the mall, just no shirt. He spent, after they won the championship, both him and Ron Artest spent a lot of time, days either in Artest's case, wearing his uniform around the city or being shirtless and JR Smith just being shirtless. New York City is weird it's a free-for-all man everyone's just smoking weed.

Do you think it's weird you guys think it's weird that I'm sitting there telling you do you know that it's still strange to me optically based on how it is that I grew up around marijuana to see JR Smith in front of a hotel just openly being okay smoking marijuana and there's no stigma to it. Because I felt like he had to hide it poorly the entirety of his career. No, that's how I, I visited Amsterdam 25 years ago. I was like, this place is crazy.

It's like that. Dan, there's still a stigma around snitching. Wait a minute. Yeah, don't be putting his business out there. Wait a minute, that's not- JR Smith does not have that kind of reputation for you to be doing that. You know, Mike, not cool.

Just say I wasn't sure it was him. Right. Could have been an impersonator. I wasn't sure it was weed, but I was, because it was JR Smith. I didn't sure it was weed, but I was, because it was J.R. Smith. I didn't even see smoke or anything in his hand. I just thought. So seeing J.R. Smith confirmed for you

that it was indeed marijuana. It was eight o'clock in the morning, it's J.R. Smith. I don't see any smoke around him, but clearly he's smoking, right? Because it's J.R. Smith. Early buzz. Waking big. Number three. Is that still snitching?

Yeah, man. Yeah, if it's legal, but if it's wait, what's what it is legal? I don't do it but but it's it's legal You never know what he's trying to do with his life what states he might be trying to do that stuff in his life I know he wasn't trying to hide it. I want to be putting this out there I'm not sure that snitching. I'm not sure that qualifies. It sort of is, yeah. I don't know. It's like saying you saw someone smoking a cigarette. I mean, it's legal.

You know what happens, snitches, right? What happened? Get in trouble. Tell them. Number three, Nick Young. Swaggy P. Number two, Dion Waiters. number two. Swaggy P. Number two. Deon Waiters. And number

one. Draymond Green. That guy has no reason to be as confident as he is. I mean, seriously. He's got a lot of reasons. That's Steph Curry's his reason. Stucco. He's. Uh put him on the Wizards, Dan. What kind of career does Draymond Green have? Seriously. Draymond Green.

Right place, right time. Fair. Thank you. It's not... It's a rational confidence. He ain't wrong. He had nothing to do with the winning, I mean. Guys, guys, he is wrong.

He is an unprecedented defensive player. Right. Like, there has never been another basketball player who plays that defense at that size. Now put him in Washington. Wow. Literally the best ever is what you're saying. Right. He'd be a Shanghai shark. I mean, here come the Rays. I've been watching your race. I know it. I've been watching. You like the new ballpark

Optically, it's got to make for a more enjoyable visual experience, right? Yeah, I just love watching their players What a time for Dan don't care where they play Rays and Pacers. Oh If your name is SL price you think you're better than everyone else. I'm not saying he thinks it, but if someone else out there is named SL Price, that person probably thinks they're better than you. I know. I had Scott on my podcast a couple of weeks ago, and he is very self-deprecating about that.

He admits that it seems like he's really trying to show off. I want you to know that the only reason he mentioned SL Price for the first time in 20 years is because he was on your podcast. That was not a coincidence. Wow, thank you, Sugats. You got it. It was actually on his topic sheet last week. Was it?

Yeah. Okay. I mean, who reads your topic sheet more than me? I mean, nobody else got to it last week. So that kind of thing and so forth, you know, with Scott Price. Why are you adding a so forth to that kind of thing? A so forth and so on.

I thought, wait a minute, I thought that kind of thing stood alone. I thought that that was- Staying out of the way, Dan. I'm embellishing. You know, sometimes it needs an embellishment, right? Jack. Congratulations to David Sampson

for staying on the DraftKings network. It turns out it's pretty easy to negotiate against yourself. Travis Hunter getting married and having his wife unbox a Mercedes Benz at the ceremony feels like it would have been easier to get that thing delivered to the house. If I have to watch you open a Mercedes Benz at your wedding, guess what? I'm taking back my gift.

The toaster, it's coming with me. I mean, who wants to see that? Nobody. Nobody. Do that in the privacy of your own home or driveway. I mean, talk about showy, right? The the epitome of showy, right?

It's ridiculous. Mercedes, right? Please. Jeez. Shohei Otani. Hitting a second leadoff home run in two days. Yawn. Do it while pitching. What? Like while pitching? You want him to hit a home run off himself? I want to see him pitch again. But you want just, I know, but you say- You want to get a hitter and a pitcher, you only got a hitter. I'm just asking for a clarification on what you want.

Do you want Otani to hit a home run in a game that he's also pitching in? Or do you want him to pitch, then go to home plate and hit a home run off his own pitch? I would like, that's too much. Okay, that's too much. In a game that he's pitching, I would like to see home plate and hit a home run off his own pitch. I would like that's too much. Okay. That's too much in a game that he's pitching. I would like to see him with a lead off home run. You know give yourself a little lead. Yeah, he's half

the player he used to be not just give yourself a little lead right because you want just you want him to do that only on the road or you want him to shut out the team in the top of the first and then hit a home run in the bottom of

the first just to be clear is it road home just do it when you're pitching. Okay, you want him to shut out the team in the top of the first and then hit a home run in the bottom of the first just to be clear? I understand. Road, home, just do it when you're pitching. Okay. You want him to give your team a lead means you have to be pitching on the road and hit the home run. Otherwise, it means you have to not... So do it on the road. I think he should pitch and hit at the same time if you were any good. What you do is you bring a bat to the mound and you hit a line, instead of throwing a fastball, you hit a line driver with a plate. Shriek! He's all three! None of that makes any sense.

Sure does. You just, none of that made any sense? I think so. Better not hit it over that short porch either. That's what I'm talking about. Nothing, I don't even understand what you said. You don't. No.

Okay, Otani is on the mound right a bat instead of grooving a fastball down the plate what's he doing he's tossing the ball up yeah hitting a line drive over the cartoons yeah batter can't get around it so he's Bugs Bunny yes well I mean how fast does a bat does a ball leave a bat everybody's got metrics now call your math friends how fast does the the ball leave a 120 miles an's got metrics now. Call your math friends. How fast does the ball leave a bat? 120 miles an hour sometimes when it's autonic. The whole exit velocity.

There you go. It changes every time. There isn't a universal MPH on it. Okay, but how fast do you throw? Let's say 100 miles an hour. You can hit it harder than that, right? You can, but it has to be thrown at you 100 miles an hour in order to do that.

You've got him hitting it off a tee at 100 miles an hour. That's not how that works. No, you don't use a tee. You throw it up like we did back in the day. Like in-field practice, Dan. Little league in-field practice. For the coach to throw it up, you use a fungo. They're not fungos. Like red berries. Red berries. That's some peace-hoods reference. Greg, you don't understand what you're saying. In order to hit a ball 120 miles an hour, it has to be thrown at about 100 miles an hour. Is that true? Yes. I doubt that Tomamanski could probably do it yes you

That's a type of skill that got back to back to back to back a a you national champion Can you guys call some of my physics friends, please? This is physics That center fielder can throw that ball into a garbage can I That center fielder can throw that ball into a garbage can I Don't care what analytics the Dodgers have a leadoff hitter should not lead the league at home runs Bad baseball they're playing it different. That's bad baseball terrible They're not that's not how they're playing up hitters gotta lead the league in homers. God you guys call the math guys

That's how I'm a ski taught it God, you guys. Call the math guys. That's how a man's keep taught it. And like Fred McGriff told us. Yeah, prime dog. That is the instructional video that gets results. You know what the F in Taylor Fritz stands for? Not France.

It's a different tournament, man. Guys who are good on every other surface aren't good there. It's weird. I mean, it's been the case since they put clay on that quartz, do you guys? No, no, no, it's always been clay, I think. That's correct. Yes. It's, that, what you're saying is not a revelation.

It's always been so. Sinner's line, and I'm not making this up, was minus one million. What? I've never seen so many zeros after a whole one in a line. I mean, if you see two cents lying on the ground, do you pick it up? I saw I saw a friend of mine. I saw a friend of mine with a $10 bet that would have cashed $10,000.

Tyler Hero Finals MVP. Sad bet. Just like your $10 on fire. Seriously, roll it up and smoke it. Sad bit Smoking his betting slip Dan name a white socks a white sock a White sock name a white sock I

Dare you name one because I watched the entire white sock mech game all nine innings over the weekend And I still can't name one Jose Contreras get out of here white Wilhelm. There's no way Contreras maybe Is he white little Jose Contreras maybe. Is he like Jose? No, he's not Dan. You'll never guess who the Mets hitting coaches. Eric Chavez.

A professional hitter of baseballs. I like this met. baseball. Oh, a professional hosting the defending WNBA champions, the passing of Jim Ursay, and the Indy 500. For just a moment, Indianapolis was the sports capital of the world. Rare for them. Congratulations to them. Congratulations to them. Joe Rose, the rare host whose voice remains the dominant one even while on vacation. It's unbelievable. I mean, there's

five minutes, you know, segments followed by 11 minutes of Joe Rose commercials. Still doing it and he does it like he's still there. The big dog. Oh, the big dog. big dog still getting it done So we're inside a hundred days till the cane season started today. It wasn't Joe with somebody else, but it sounded like Joe It was Omar Did sound like Joe they do this weird thing where they have Joe like Joe's not there

But they make it seem like Joe's still there a Joey I yeah last of his kind Really there will Really? There will never be anything like that again. He's had a great career. That's correct. He was a pretty good tight end. He's been a better broadcaster. I don't think he was a pretty good tight end. I think he was about 385 yards a season as a tight end. Good blocking tight end. No, he wasn't that either. He got ransacked pretty good as a blocking tight end caught damn Reno's first career That's all you can say and he made that's why he's had a great career Everything that happened after go ahead and look up his average. Go ahead. Please look up for me. I shall

Joe Rose is playing career. So you see how ignorant you are about your Miami Dolphins dolphin historian He really parlayed that I think he had a I think he had a very solid NFL career. Alright, you tell me. That was a different time for Titans. That is correct. It was. That is correct. They weren't very good. That is correct.

Played seven years. Yeah, here we go. This should be fun. 112 catches. Seven years. 1493 yards. Right. 13 touchdowns.

That's a year for Kelsey. Not including the playoffs. That is closer to a year for Kelsey. That's one Kelsey season. Read those stats again. Times have changed. Do the playoffs. Yeah, that is closer to Kelsey season. One Kelsey season. Read those stats again. The times have changed. Do the averages.

Give me his career high in passing and receiving yards for a season. 345. OK. Wow. You know what? You're surprised by that, huh? He led NFL tight ends with 345 yards receiving.

That's a big deal. Travis Kelsey in 22 had 110 catches for 1,338 yards in 12 touchdowns. Show off. That season. Is that right? That he led tight ends and receiving yards? Yeah. That's really impressive.

Yep. I mean, of the era, he was Travis Kelsey. But he was playing at a time where Kellen Winslow was playing, right? Todd Christensen, I mean of the era he was Travis Kelso. But he was playing at a time where Kellen Winslow was playing, right? Todd Christensen. That is a crazy bit of context that he was, are you sure? I'm seeing gold face numbers here. I don't know what doesn't that usually mean? He led the league in something?

I don't know. Okay. He doesn't actually know. There's no explainer here. It doesn't seem it. Look, even for the time, I understand that the Dolphins of 1972 won the championship with Bob Greasy throwing seven passes in the Super Bowl. But that wasn't when Joe Rose played.

He played 15 years later when 340 yards from a tight end was actually a decent amount for a tight end. I don't believe it would lead the season in receiving. That's correct. I will do a quick correction. It led the Dol would lead the season in receiving. That's correct. I will do a quick correction. It led the Dolphins tight ends in receiving. But it did not lead the NFL. It did not lead the NFL in tight ends.

Better than average yards per catch for a tight end, 13.3. You go, Joe. Monopetal only two minutes, delay of show. It's a good delay though. In 1983, Kellen Winslow had 88 catches for 1200 yards and eight touchdowns. Again, not a good tight end. I'll say it again, no offense Joe Rose,

love your career, amazing career, just not as a tight end. No offense though. No offense. No offense, right. If Andy Murray played in any other era, he'd be the goat or in the goat conversation. That's funny. The A in Andy Murray stands for any other era goat conversation.

I mean, too bad for him. I've got another hot take. Seriously. Vavrinka too. Yeah. He doesn't even crack the top four. Right? It's like all the guys who played when Jordan played had Jordan not been around

We might be talking about Elijah one is the greatest of all time. Maybe Drexler. Maybe Barkley Andy Murray, what was he doing there though? I just peek At his peak like winning that Wimbledon, he deserves to be there. Stan's gotta be pissed, though. Yeah. Dan, you might have missed this, but Javi Baez is a center fielder. Haven't missed it, no, we talked about it last week.

No, I knew he was a Tiger, but a center fielder. Last week we talked about it, last week. All right, sorry. It's gotta suck to be Stan Vavrenka. He's like, I can't even be the Swiss guy Kyle Larson Going for the double in the Indy 500 and the Coca-Cola 600 and crashing in both hey Kyle Why don't you pick one race and master that first?

focus on finishing What a joke you got anything for him on this Mike? You were touting Larsson last week. You were very much looking forward to something that had to be pretty disappointing. There have been 12 attempts. Only one person has ever successfully done the double run all 1,100 miles. It's really hard to do and on top of that you have idiots telling you you're a bad driver for just merely trying it. Kyle Larson could have just not tried it

and not subjected himself to being in Sugata's weekend observations. And if you read his post race comments, it sounds like he's kind of done doing the double. It was a very frustrating experience. And no, it's not good. I think pushing the boundaries of what is possible in motorsports is something everybody should aspire to,

but the reaction to it has made me, as a Kyle Larson fan, not want him to run it anymore. We will ask the winner of the Indy 500 question about that in the next 20 minutes. All right. Tip of the cap to Around the Horn and Tony Reali. Hell of a run. Speaking of hell, our brials.

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a big problem. And she said really what are you going to do? Stugats. Oh goddamn I mean that's where I didn't have an answer. This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats. I have some observations about the observation. Wow. My question to you is to start off as you say TJ McConnell leads the league in pesky. Yeah he does. Do we ever give that to a black guy or is it always to someone who looks like TJ McConnell? Is he the only one who's getting? Leads the league in pesky that specific that specific adjective Eric snow

What goes into pesky like white white I would say yeah But but like what do you have to do to be pesky in the content all annoying? Okay small stealer? You don't necessarily have to be a bald stealer, but you have to be small and annoying, you also have to be white, and you love to have these people on your own team. It's only something you're experiencing as pesky as you look at it derisively from the other team, because you don't like that it's beating you, you don't like all the mid-range jumpers. You don't understand how he hits all those 12

footers among the trees and so you assign peskyness to it because it can't be athleticism. It has to be that he's doing something with his will. I would say in baseball any black short base dealer if you're fast you're pesky because you're getting the lead off a base there. Tim Womack? Tony Womack? Tony Womack. Tony Womack. D Gordon? But that's a fine.

Pocky Reese? I don't think, no. Put her on the poll at LeBattard Show. Does being pesky in sports require you to be white? TJ McConnell, by the way, enough with him. OK, I'm tired of TJ McConnell. I was watching the game. He gets in the way.

I was watching the game at my in-laws' house, and they're like, oh, look at this guy. Like, TJ McConnell, he's like, he's shooting's shooting. I'm like he's always in the right spot He's always hustling. He's always picking you up 94 feet from the basket. I hate him There's no reason he should be doing all these things. He tries so hard for no reason Speaking of picking you up 90 feet from the basket Are you guys impressed by knee Smith and the way he's guarding Brunson? Are you guys impressed by watching what and the way he's guarding Brunson? Are you guys impressed

by watching what seems to me Brunson get worn down by somebody who physically will fight through every screen and I think the reason they lost the game aside from Brunson leaving with foul trouble is just Nie Smith got hurt and then all of a sudden the Pacers go one for eight from three in the in the fourth quarter and the whole thing falls apart but it seems to me I haven't seen a lot of this I've watched a decent amount of Nick's basketball this year I haven't seen a whole lot of people have the physical size to bother Brunson just bringing the ball up court in a way that might make him tired and might impact his judgment when he gets into foul trouble he's 100 playing tonight right like Carlisle I don, like, Karla is just, he's screwing with the Knicks.

He's definitely playing tonight, right? What did they put in his ankle, by the way? Cause I saw that ankle turn and I was like, ouch, he's gone for a couple of weeks. And then all of a sudden he kind of hossed back out there and I was like, huh. I don't understand what happens this time of year. I don't know how Reinhardt is a day-to-day decision.

Like, I don't, I don't get when I see some of these hits, but I saw a championship one from Giannis Antetokounmpo when I thought in those finals that his career had ended. And then he had 50. I thought his career had ended from the way that he landed and then he won the championship like three games later. And he made every free throw. When I, there are two times in recent years

where I thought during a basketball playoff game that someone's career was over. It was Giannis in the finals and it was Joel Embiid after a dunk when he landed on the court and his knee gave and I'm like, oh my God, that's clearly not a leg that's gonna work correctly anymore. And he played the next game. And I don't get it, I don't understand.

To your knee-smith point though, he's a very physical defender, he's 6'6", so he's way bigger than Jalen Brunson, he's got the length to kinda get in front of him, but it feels like in certain moments, Jalen Brunson is getting around him and making plays in clutch time. He'll make them against anybody.

Brunson, there is no such human being who can defend, not that size or any size, who's gonna keep Brunson from getting to the basket i'm just saying i'm not used to it looking as hard just to dribble up the court as it has in this series for brunson i've been surprised impressed and taken a back by how important the athleticism of knee smith is even though brunson will get his 40 against anybody.

He's averaging 34 a game in this series, but you're right, Neesmith makes it more difficult for him. He does, he does. It's what seems to my eye to be true, but it may not actually be true mathematically because like I said, Brunson is a really unusual player being able to score that way at that size and I will say, only one time in NBA history during the modern age can you say that a player of that size has ever won the championship it's Isaiah Thomas that player gets shut down by bigger players in all circumstances throughout basketball history at the end of the

season remember how mad we all got I think it was last year how mad we all got it Becky Hammond for saying on television you cannot win with Jalen Brunson is your best player because he's not Isaiah Thomas but he has been in the postseason he's done everything except win on a broken ankle but I'm telling you that the defense on Brunson is a problem when I say ranks 147th out of 147th on defensive metrics plus minus to got Carlisle is going to pick at that the rest of the series the way that Tyler Hero got picked at on defense. Every single time

Brunson's on someone that's going to be the matchup that they look to exploit and it's problematic that if you have Kat and Brunson on the floor at the same time the Pacers are going to get to play basketball the way they want to with the pace and they're going to be able to shred your defense because you're terrible at defense when those two players are on the court together. That was always the issue with this Knicks team, right? They traded Carl Anthony for Carl Anthony Towns. They have this amazing offensive situation, but then midway through the season, they're

like, wow, this defense is terrible. And how are they going to fix it going into the playoffs? Because it's obviously a good enough team to make it to the playoffs. And now you're seeing in these stretch runs of the Eastern Conference Finals you're like man you can't play cat and Brunson together oh Mitchell Robinson's playing 28 minutes a game even though he should be playing 20 because he's a great interior defender grabs offensive rebounds but it's like that cat put and push and pull

of like is he gonna be great today on offense because if he's not then he's bad on defense and he's bad overall what you guys know right this is not a surprise to anybody when i say that carl anthony towns none of us would have him as a number one we would all think of him as an exceptional number two and we would all notice that he's much better and his teams are much better when rudy gober is next to him or when mitchell robinson is next to him allowing him to be the biggest floater around the perimeter physically that there's ever

been in the history of the league at that site where he just sort of floater ralph floats around and plays a game that gets questioned when jimmy butler practices well against it because it's not as tough as you would like it to be and gets him made fun of for everything from his softness on defense to his voice to his voice that makes him change his voice because people are always saying you're not that guy you're not gritty you're not the guy who's gonna do the

gritty stuff that no one else wants to do. Not Hartenstein. Not Pesky either. That dunk was pretty awesome. Yes great time to cut. I want to bring up something now that he mentions Hartenstein and I want to bring up something now that he mentions heart and stein and i want to start a new segment that is dan is terrible at gambling uh... because let me tell you uh... what happened soon after in game three the other night between minnesota and okc after richard jefferson said both teams were literally playing for their lives and i'm just i maybe he had information, we don't, that's all. He's on the broadcast.

I had Hartenstein, now you guys remember how that game ended up. 150 to 101, the biggest loss in the history of OKC being OKC as a city. I had Hartenstein over eight and a half points. I'm just gonna tell you how that game started. I can't wait. Four nothing, OKC on two Hartenstein floaters. Oh, are you feeling good? Soon thereafter, an easy lob for an alley-oop

that he somehow clanks on the rim. And he scored two more points the rest of the game. I lose Hartenstein six points. But that game started. OKC up four nothing with Hardenstein on an unprecedented four-oh Hardenstein run. Floaters. Hardenstein was up four nothing.

That's correct. Floaters, I got eight and a half. At that point you're feeling pretty good about your bet. No? It's a lot. You gotta double down. You shoulda hedged. Yeah.

Do you know how often shit like that happens to me? How does that happen? It's 4-0. They went on the rest of the game to lose by 7,000 points, but at the beginning they were off 4-0 and my guy had all the points. But you're scrolling the prop bets and it's on you really for stopping at Hartenstein over 8.5 points. This looks juicy.

Feels like a winner. All the choices you had. And it's on you really for stopping at Hartenstein over 8.5 points. This looks juicy. All the choices you had. It's not the only one I made. A couple floaters, a couple dunks, all of a sudden he's got 10, you don't know what's going on, he's got 10, you do it. You gotta dig for the treasure, my friend. Sometimes you gotta go searching for it. Sometimes you gotta hot tip about Mikala scoring a goal and you go for it.

They're crashing the net these days. I like Stu Gotatz is way better. Stu Gatz has me making a single bet all weekend. And just certain. Found it. He has me meticulously scouring for every market inefficiency throughout the French Open, IndyCar, everything else and being like,

you know what I got? Hardenstein, that half point on Hardenstein, like, nine's guaranteed. Look how smart I am when they're up four-nothing. I knew they were gonna run the offense through Hardenstein early, so that I could stop watching the game soon after. Richard Jefferson said what he said about it being literally for the lives of an OKC team that was up 2-0.

Maybe you knew something.