The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Jilted Lovers of Aaron Rodgers

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

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Can you guys let me know who it is and what it is that's going to be happening on Sunday around here during Selection Sunday, where we're gonna be doing a live stream? Who's going to be in with us? Are we going for the show in America that knows the very least about college basketball, doing a live show off of Selection Sunday

because it's a fun day to just have a silly party? What are we doing on Sunday? That's actually what we're titling it, what you just said, that worry sentence. It should be, yes. The America's least informed Selection Sunday show. Yes, I mean, because between us, I think all of us can name a Cooper flag least informed selection Sunday show. Yes, I mean, because between us,

I think all of us can name a Cooper flag and then everyone else is just laundry that you're betting on. That everyone else is Maryland minus five. So I don't know who the guests are, but you guys are planning something. Are we gonna then unveil what our tournament is gonna be on Sunday?

Because I just saw, Billy, the ad for our tournament, and you've heard my declining trust in our audience to be clever competitively based on what it is that they've done on that Boost Mobile StuGots line. I'm with you, I've been seeing some of the video submissions so far, they are dreadful. Audience, step it the heck up.

All right, so. Levitardaf.com if you wanna go and submit and you can win a big prize. Look, lawyers be damned, because here's the thing, we've been walking around this situation, There's so much red tape around here They should call this place 3m at a lark You know what I mean with all the tape that we have to work through around these parts so lawyers be damned Here's the prize people. There's a prize people use pay tens of thousands of dollars for okay. You're going to be able to come

Hold on a second let me hold on a second let me hold on a second. Let me hold on a second. Let me finish. Hold on a second. Let me finish here. All right. We need you to come in here. Phrasing. Hold on a second. All right. We need you to get a 30 second video. Submit that video. Tell us why you should be watching this championship game with Dan, right? And then the winner is going to have the opportunity to watch the championship game with Dan, not a Dan, with Dan Lebatard and some others who are yet to be confirmed and signed up for all that.

And then if I understand properly from the multiple meetings we've had, and if I haven't, I'm sure this is gonna be edited out, or we're doing it now. And then- It's live right now, Billy. That's fine. There's no editing out. No, it's fine.

We can do that. We can always fix it. We can always fix it. And then the winner, selected by fellow fans, the winner then, at a date to be determined, is gonna have a nice in-person meet and greet situation. So I don't think we've expressed this properly because there hasn't been the proper enthusiasm

around this contest, but again, people used to pay tens of thousands of dollars for this opportunity. So if you go to lebatardaf.com, you can submit your video, you can tell everybody here why it is that you are the one that should be here, or, or, or, you could just make a really annoying video that then the fans will decide, you know what,

I really wanna annoy this group of people and I wanna send the worst person possible, I wanna send the William Hung of the fans will decide, you know what, I really wanna annoy this group of people and I wanna send the worst person possible, I wanna send the William Hung of the fans to go, the Sanjaya, if you will, fans, to go and hang out with them because they can't get out of it. They're gonna have to sit there and they're gonna have to endure this

and we the fans are in complete control. So, fans, this is your chance at revenge. Every time you sit there and you say, you know what, I don't wanna hear about this damn Pat McAfee anymore. Well, guess what? Why don't you win and then talk to us about bobby pins or yarn or whatever it is that you want to talk about.

Submit your video, get the fans to vote for you. Little engagement. Go back and forth with the guys and the girls and everybody here and that's it. Levitartaf.com, submit your video. Less than 30 seconds. If it's over 30 seconds, probably won't watch it. Once we get 64, honestly, the way things go around here,

we're probably gonna cap it off. We're not gonna look at 65 through 68 or however many people submit. So you should just submit it now as quickly as you can. We need this energy from you guys. Some hints, little tips. Don't tell us how long you've been listening. We don't care.

Well, no, that's not true. I'm just saying it's not a good way to get like- I would say- You don't care. Listen, save all of those interesting things like how long you've been listening, who's your favorite, all of that, for when you win. And we can talk to you in person and can't get away from you.

Zagacki. Are we all Delaware fans today? Are we all blue hens today? Is Greg Cody wearing that blue shirt, and least in part because he is a hen? Yes, I am. Love Delaware. Henning it.

Love my hens. Now if you don't know about this story, they are the 12th seed out of the CAA conference, and they I think lost nine out of 10 games to end the season. They're 16 and 19, just a bad team. But they've gone on a run here, and tonight they will play for their conference championship

for a chance to punch their ticket into the dance. The magic hens. We are all Delaware Blue Hen fans tonight. Damn right we are. Let's go. How come the rest of you aren't wearing blue like me? Well, Levitard is. Well done.

By the way, does the winner of that contest get to not only watch the game with you, but sit on your lap? Well, no. No? Yeah, there's lawyers, you can. Like Santa? Okay.

3M. Yeah, that would be great. People have paid, I think the largest amount of money that has been paid to do any of these silly things with us is $35,000. So yesterday's price is not today's price. I think that was in 2020 too, and those people never came.

So that was just like a nice charity to act by them. So hey, thanks to you guys for the 35K charity, Dicky V or Jimmy V. All the Vs out there support him. Billy, excellent work. You really did great work with everything there. Just totally buttoned up the way that I expect from you. Also, a contest that is run by you,

trying to actively annoy me. Oh no, no, it's not run by me. Signing me up for. It's now become run by me, but that was not the intention. I was just the idea man. Okay, excellent. Now I'm the closer. Okay.

Spratledge they call me. Just hopefully we're not pitching that. Albert Pujols is, you know what I mean? Owl closer. Bob Save. Let's play some video here that I wanna show people about, I don't know who is presently playing for the Marlins. I know that Jesus Lazardo is now in Philadelphia, people about uh... i don't know who is presently playing for the marlins i know

that has those was our dough is now in philadelphia and i want you just to know before i play this video that the entire time that this is happening they've got philly's manager rob thompson uh... mic for sound and he's watching hazel's lasardo pitch uh... hazel's lasardo's first pitches a two one pitch with the bases loaded. He throws three consecutive pitches and all three of those pitches go out of the park as Thompson is just totally silent during the entirety of this conversation he's supposed to be having. One of those in-game interviews, Jiro was like, oh, nothing ever happens during these.

Well, something happened during this one. All right, watch this. Turn the switch up a little bit every day so that we're 100% going into the season, but at the same time staying healthy. All right, two-one on the way to Jones. Swing and a drive. Deep drive, Sosa goes back.

It is way out of here. That's a grand slam for Jermai Jones. That's a grand slam for Jermai Jones. 430 feet, 112 on the bat. So the double was one point 10 on the bat. This one 112. Competition. Jones right now looking good against the lefties. He sure did. Andy Iponyas and Sosa back. He's out of room. Back to back shots Andy upon yes, not as far not as hard off the bat but equally impressive and it is all of a sudden

a five nothing game this lizardo has given up back to back home topper you're a great guy for uh for a hanging with us here but being in this sort of context of what goes on in the spring training game he sends it to left field sosa is not going to get it back to back to back three pitches goodness Thompson winced on the last one the way you would if someone scared you. If you walked into a room and someone actually caught you entirely off guard. You remember that video of Alec Baldwin in court when they're cross-examining a witness that had a bunch of good things to say about Alec and at some point, then why did you call him a bleep sucker and he just just picks his head up real quick,

it's the only reaction he had. That was Rob Thompson's look after the third home run. Have you guys watched any of the Baldwin documentary that's in the middle of his life, not documentary, reality show, as all of this happens, he's got six or seven kids he's chasing around. I've always found him interesting, arrogant beyond all reason.

But do you guys have any interest? I judge from the look on your faces, none of you wanna read or hear anything or watch anything involving Alec Baldwin's real life. No, I saw like an unfortunate video of like a Trump impersonator ambushing him outside of his apartment to ask him about killing somebody.

And it was just, it didn't seem like a fun life. I don't like the idea of reality TV being so real that they're all of a sudden in a therapy room when Alec Baldwin is, you know, going through counseling. I think that's too much. I don't want to, I don't want to know that much about Alec. I wish him well. Isn't that what reality shows are to get you deeper? The whole popularity, you must not be interested

in any reality show. I think there's a difference between what reality TV used to be, right? Reality TV, I think it started off by, you know, putting 10 people on a deserted island and make them do this, that, and the other. It shouldn't involve someone's personal therapy someone's mental health being being splayed out for all to see I'm just uncomfortable with that someone's never watched the

Kardashians well I don't like that either that's also like an augmented reality they put people in these situations reality shows I'm with I'm with Greg I'm want to harken back to a day when people stopped being polite and started getting real. Okay, but the reality television shows have to continue to be cheap programming and evolve, and so the way to evolve is be more intimate than you have been before.

Go into places you, this is a very cheap form of programming. Cheap programming right now is all of the rage and just putting cameras inside someone's house and showing you the deepest of intimacies in celebrity. This is a currency that all of us are partaking in in social media. We have more access to celebrities and their lives than we have ever had before.

Which is why I don't need reality shows. I've cut them completely out. I don't watch reality shows. What I do is follow people on social media and that's enough of a reality show. Like I consume speed via clips. I'm like, okay, that's my reality superstar, this YouTube streamer.

I think that's really where reality is gone. And it's these reality type shows on YouTube. And that being said, there's, you know, Vanderpump rules and all these reality type shows on YouTube. And that being said, there's Vanderpump rules and all these really popular shows. The Kardashians are still reality TV gold from a ratings standpoint, but it just does nothing for me. The Paul brothers are about to start one on Max that I think starts later this month.

Like, I don't need a Paul brothers show and I'm sure it's gonna be uber successful. It's on Max. I personally don't need it because they're always on They're literally always on like they they send out a selfie video. They're performing. I see the reality show 24-7 They're YouTube streamers. They have a podcast. They're on Monday night raw like they're boxing Mike Tyson like I see it all Yeah, their whole life is a reality show. So why do you need a reality show about a reality show, right? I mean that's the Paul Brothers. Well, I want to ask you guys a couple of questions on this front. One, what is the universally considered

most successful of the reality shows and which one is doing it right now. Does Survivor and The Bachelor, those count as reality shows, right? That's not just, I saw that Chris Cody was mouthing Kardashians back there because he says that's the most successful one. And Jersey Shore. I think in terms of like building an economy that set up generational wealth for that family

and all the kids, it's a Kardashian, that was a goldmine. And now? And now the best and the, or the most popular They're on Hulu still I believe. No, no, but the most popular of the reality shows now, Yes. Love is Blind probably. I think everybody's on Love is Blind right now.

Everything is, everything else is kind of reruns. Love is Blind is on its fifth season, so it's a little bit, you know. Aren't there two different, like, there's like competition, love shows, and then there's like I'm at your house. You're living your life These are two different time types of reality shows the dating shows your different branch of reality Hold similarly like you know cheap and like bottom level of well the creative space Bottom how do you have time? I don't have Bottom. How do you have time?

I don't have time for this. How do you have time? You have a kid. How do you have time for reality shows? You think I'm watching all these? I'm just talking about them. I just, I don't, who has time? I mean, Kardashians is a little guilty pleasure for me.

Every once in a while I'm scanning through Hulu, I'll throw a Kardashians on it. At the point in my life, I watched the last season of White Lotus. I enjoyed it. I just told my wife, do it without me. I don't have time. Indian Wells isn't gonna watch itself.

Look, I got basically three things a week. It's hockey on the second TVs, where I'm just zoned out, whatever's going on on the main screens, my wife's domain. Cyclone Mondays. I got, that was on the second screen. I had to move out of the way for Big City Greens, because my daughter's a terrorist with this main TV.

Like, I gotta just shut off my life I can't follow anything I got Indian Wells if I wake up at 2 30 in the morning to see mom feast to his thing That's always gonna be there for me I got basically I got I get three and a half hours of TV and I'm spending and watching left turns the first four Episodes of White Lotus are a good two episodes dude. I'm mad

I watched righteous gemstones because I'm like, this is going to be the show that I've watched. That was wrong. What they did in their first episode was wrong. I'm so mad. I don't need more Bradley Cooper. I need more gemstones. I don't need origin stories of the gemstones.

You didn't give me any characters from the gemstones in the first episode. This is a dangerous game, Righteous Gemstones, and I'm sorry to be going at our partners over at Max, but I love this show. This is one of the few shows that I've been like, let me binge this one, I'm in. What you did to me on that first episode was wrong. Please don't do it to me for a second episode.

I need Walton Goggins, I need Baby Billy. I'll tell you what it is that they did with their first episode. I believe Danny McBride is hell-bent on spending as much money as he can. And so he just did a war reenactment as Righteous Gemstones. I'm looking at the cost of what it is that first episode was, and I thought I was watching Platoon more than I was watching Righteous Gemstones.

The talent budget definitely got blown on Bradley Cooper because there wasn't a single other actor in that episode that I recognize, and that's hard to do for an HBO show. They just decided to do a war episode with real like that. It looked real and it's not what I want from my gemstone. Can I make a can I have a question here? So Reggie's gemstones is about a mega church family. That's kind of like the thing. I haven't seen it. Yes. But why is there a war? No, it was a civil war. And they went all the way back to the roots of the family. You can tell what happened here. Danny McBride got extra high one day, like super high,

higher than he's probably ever been, which is saying a lot. And he's like, what if we did a civil war episode and it's Bradley Cooper? I imagine that show's going to have a ton of great cameos. It's an inspired show and I'm really stunned nobody did it before these folks are doing it. But it was waiting for a laugh on that first episode. It was weird, it was weird, it was weird.

There were no laughs. I think, is that the joke that they just tricked us with the first episode? Is the laugh, hey, we got Bradley Cooper for an episode and we play it straight the whole time? I thought that Danny McBride was actively making a statement about spending corporate money in the streaming age.

That he just said, I've got a popular show, I'm the one who can get stuff made, watch what I do with this. I'm just gonna do something that's not funny. That's a, have you seen it yet? You think he was showing off in other words. This is a good theory. Like there goes 30 of my minutes.

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I do, yeah. One of the great characters in the history of television, in my humble opinion. And to my credit, my personality- In my humble opinion, followed by to my credit. To my credit, my personality does pre-date Curve Your Enthusiasm. Stugats! Oh wow, okay. I'm not going to say Larry David patterned himself after me.

All right, put it on the poll please, Jude. You did Greg Cody copyright Being an Asshole long before Larry David. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the StuGats. ["The Stugats"] Mina Kimes is a giant Love is Blind fan and I really did enjoy having a conversation with her yesterday about Sam Darnold in which I believe she didn't realize something about herself.

I'm texting her asking, you must hate this Sam Darnold signing. She's like, actually it's financially responsible. It's really just a two year deal. I'm like, you're a Seahawk fan. You've got Sam Darnold. She was doing the GM breakdown and not the fan breakdown. There is not a Seahawk fan happy today

that Sam Darnold is their quarterback. That team's not better than it was last year because Sam Darnold is their quarterback. They lost Gino and they lost DK, so yeah, the team's not better. And lock it. And lock it, right? No, but Sam Darnold was a mirage last year.

Those skilled people in Minnesota are crazy good. Name Seattle's skilled people now. JSM. JSM, yeah. You can't lose. I know that they're going to try and do stuff in the draft, but does anyone believe that Sam Darnold is going to make Seattle?

Does anyone believe that Sam Darnold will be as good in Seattle as he was in Minnesota? Just start there. No, that's a healthy skepticism, I think, because we've seen those quarterbacks have a good bounce pack year and then hit the market and sign a regrettable deal. It's a weird time to hit reset for Seattle, because they were kind of like, they were a scrappy team that

was in the playoff mix. But I guess they evaluated their team. Like, that's probably our ceiling. So tear it all down. Are you guys positive that Sam Darnold is better than Geno Smith, to bring up his name again? No I don't I don't think so just because I've seen Gino Smith do it for a longer period of time now he is no doubt younger than Gino Smith and I think it is a fair take to say like no matter how bullish or bearish you are on Gino we've probably seen his best he's a

longer in the tooth quarterback he's a stopgap solution for, he's been a stopgap solution for Seattle because no one ever thought even while he was having these years they had the type of team that he could take them to that next level. So he's just like a year-long loan for Las Vegas and I don't think anyone thinks anything of this Sam Darnold deal other than like he's probably going to be on another three teams before his career is out. I think because of the age difference alone I would rather have Sam Darnold than Geno Smith. Geno Smith had a really good year three years ago. The immune season.

A season less good two years ago. He followed it up with another good year. He's been solid. The thing't want to have to. Okay, the thing that I did want to bring back from yesterday though that I wanted to ask you guys because all of you made DK Metcalf a number one receiver, which I get, but 66 catches the last couple of years, that's four catches a game. That's four a game and that's not a number one receiver. Four catches a game is not a number one.

I'm with you. I say it out of it because just to show before, I was arguing that Tyler Lockett, kind of sneaky, has been, just as many years, like their numbers are really damn close. You could make an argument that over the course of five years, Tyler Lockett, while he didn't fit the profile conventionally, was their actual number one target.

Are we starting to really actually have that conversation? Like I told you last week, I didn't know we were ready to have that conversation. DK not a number one. now and now in Pittsburgh is George Pickens the number one the reason I bring it up is because of Aaron Rodgers all of a sudden and tell me how true these Reports are because I don't know what to believe and I've been I don't know why this sneaks up on me every year But the free agent movement of the last couple of days

And I will go to Tony in a second because I am told that he has been crafting all week in a top five top free agent moves but since you Greg are a football authority and since we've got Dukie back there an internationally known insider Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers is was in a report but I don't know how credible the reports are, and there are a lot of people doing a bunch of maneuvering right now trying to get what are the couple of jobs that are available. Have you seen some of the reporting on the Giants that Shane has ruined everything because of what happened on Hard Knocks and now not only do no nfl teams want to do hard knocks because of how the giants front office looked while

getting rid of seqon barkley but now evidently nobody wants to go play for the Giants Aaron Rodgers Mina told us that was mutual desperation but Pittsburgh seems to be in play is that real is Pittsburgh with Pickens and DK Metcalf something that that makes sense to you for Aaron Rodgers? Aaron Rodgers is desperate right now. He doesn't have a lot of options. A month ago, two weeks ago, I think everybody assumed he was going to sign with the Raiders

and they went elsewhere. You know, I think Aaron Rodgers right now is going to take the first starting quarterback job he's offered because the opportunities are dwindling. and they went elsewhere. You know, I think Aaron Rodgers right now is gonna take the first starting quarterback job he's offered because the opportunities are dwindling. There aren't that many teams left that are actively shopping and looking for a quarterback. And the idea that Aaron Rodgers might not get an offer that he feels is good enough is growing by the day.

What's real though with the Steelers and the reporting around the Steelers because you have a lot of local reporters doing stuff that the national reporters aren't doing and so I don't know what's accurate when it comes to Pittsburgh and what is Agent Spiel because it behooves Aaron Rodgers and his people to make everyone think that both the Giants and the Steelers are interested in Aaron Rodgers

But does Mike Tomlin want to put up with the Aaron Rodgers circus? Cuz like that does not seem like a fit to me at all like if you could get Russell Wilson to come back at an Okay price like I think that might be a better option for the Steelers than Aaron Rodgers Who's still he had a good second half and but he's still unknown, and he brings so much baggage that why would you want to bring that in if you're Mike Tomlin? We'll say, we didn't know that Antonio Brown was crazy

until he left Pittsburgh. Yeah, but Mike Tomlin kept that under wraps. Yeah, which is, which is a credit. But we know Aaron Rodgers is crazy. True enough. I mean, I shouldn't say that, but we know Aaron Rodgers has a lot of outside interest.

He has a lot of attention. He will be bringing to the Steelers that doesn't seem like something Mike Tomlin would want to invite into the locker room. It just feels like Aaron Rodgers wants to be the quarterback but also coach the team pseudo-wise. So it's like, are you gonna fall underneath and be humble enough to let a coach coach

or do you want to do everything? And this is an upgrade in talent, right? I think a lot of people are positioning that way, but I mean, Breeze Hall and Garrett, no, no, no, I'm saying for Aaron Rodgers to go to Pittsburgh. Najee Harris, I guess the addition of DK Metcalf makes this more of a consideration, but I like Wilson as a wide receiver better than I like DK

or than I like Pickens. I like Breeze Hall as better as a running back than I like Najee Harris. Harris is out too, he's not even there. And to your point about nobody wanting to play for the Giants, they just signed Javon Holland who is a big free agent lost for Miami. So I think the Giants offering money makes them a team that people want to play for. Yeah, no one wants to play with the Giants until they don't have options and then they go play with the Giants. Like it doesn't matter.

Like if they get offered the money they're looking for and there's no other teams available, like the Giants are just not going to not have a football team because of Hard Knocks last season. Like they're going to have a football team full of players that went to play for the Giants. Yeah and if the Giants end up being Aaron Rodgers last option, he will play for the Giants. He's not going to sit out the season at his age.

He still has the ego and the need to sign and start somewhere and he's running out of options. Najee Harris is a Charger? Old face, new place? That happened. There was something refreshing about yesterday with the X outage that even like front offices were complaining about it because they weren't working

with all the information because you would get an alert and you wouldn't see the whole thing. You'd try to click the tweet, it wouldn't expand because X had all the information because you would get an alert you wouldn't see the whole thing you try to click the tweet it wouldn't expand because exit all these issues it was a throwback they were breaking news on television for folks yesterday. Can we explore for a second though what Billy is saying I know we are all in agreement that whatever Aaron Rodgers brings in terms of noisiness is going to be probably unlike any quarterback except maybe Deshaun Watson. There's no I don't even know or Colin Kaepernick in

terms of noisiness but the thing I wanted to ask you guys what are the practical and actual detriments to that when you say does Mike Tomlin want to put up with that he got rid of Antonio Brown because Antonio Brown was allowing people Into their locker room was addicted to social media and did some things at the end that revealed to us that Antonio Brown was less Stable than we thought but in real terms not noisiness What is the effect of bringing headlines with a quarterback when you're starved for a quarterback? Well, it depends on your team right and? And where you are as an organization. If you're a desperate organization, like the Giants,

then you're willing to bring it in. If you're Mike Tomlin, who has not had a losing season ever, who has kind of this mold that he likes for his team, why would you risk that for bringing in a 42-year-old quarterback for one season and throw everything off just out of desperation because maybe Aaron Rodgers can take us to the second round of the playoffs? I would make the argument that Aaron Rodgers bringing to that organization no turnovers

has more value than whatever fear you have of headlines that don't matter much, that are noisy and unpleasant and the Steelers have only had three coaches ever. But Mike Tomlin is also in a desperate place because he's where Jimmy Johnson and Juanstead were at the end with the Dolphins where people were done with, hey, we're going to get there, get to the playoffs, but we're going to be the enemy of great is good and we're never going to be good enough to do anything. I think the desperation would be enough for Mike Tomlin that he might be willing to welcome a chastened Aaron Rodgers.

I don't know if that's- But also a coach killer, Aaron Rodgers, right? So like, if you give in to the desperation, it better work or this might be the end for you, Mike Tomlin. Like, signing him and having it blow up in your face could be the end of Mike Tomlin. I think that's the case either way though.

I think Mike Tomlin is in legitimate trouble there where people are tired in Pittsburgh of what they're calling mediocrity that isn't actually mediocrity because they've been spoiled by him having whatever it is, 15 straight winning seasons. Talk about a guy that would get a job right away instantly if he got fired.

Right, right, he would, but it's been a long time since the Steelers last Super Bowl you know what else has been a long time since Aaron Rodgers last Super Bowl career underachiever one Super Bowl at age 42 is he's great don't get me wrong first ballot Hall of Famer but when you win one Super Bowl with that talent and that longevity, that's a career under achievement. I have a question though. Dan did the thing that I don't think it's accurate.

He's like, you invite Aaron Rodgers into your team, no turnovers. What a ridiculous blanket statement. He had 11 picks last year. He was bad. He's five years older than Russell Wilson. He's also a worse quarterback than Russell Wilson was, if you look at QBR. So what are we doing here? This is like if it's if we're comparing and we're looking at age and we're projecting for the future and we're looking at what they

Most recently did Russell Wilson was better two games against the Miami Dolphins got y'all crazy The Steelers also resigned Mike Tomlin to a three-year extension last offseason So like they're not just gonna pay him to go away after this They had enough faith in him last offseason, and last year they were right there on the cusp of making the playoffs. That doesn't get you very much these days. The cusp of making the playoffs just got Seattle

changing everything and has the Dolphins drowning. Okay, but what does Aaron Rodgers get you these days? That's fair. Well, first of all, it gets you star hope is what it gets you. And it's different than the previous star Hope that you tried with Russell Wilson, which is something teams do all the time. It's what Seattle just did Also, the Steelers made the playoffs last year. I made I misspoke. I'm just a little confused like what are we doing?

Here's an older star much older star He's a good fit for the Giants like Like in what, like how it's being painted, like Star Hope, like great, New York Giants, just cross town. But he just did New York, he can't go across town and be like, oh I'm here now. It's not even a safe place, just stay there. That's true.

Stay put. I am doing something with Aaron Rodgers second half of the season that I was not doing the first where he was moving a lot worse the first half of the season, just physically. To me, it's an odd thing to say given the kind of greatness that we're talking about but when you physically lose what he lost in being able to just move around the pocket it makes him an

entirely different quarterback it's the thing that's happened to Russell Wilson who's like eight years younger than him but has taken more even more of a physical beating where you, uh, you're just used to him sliding around the pocket and being someone who moves away from the rush. And it's not something he can physically do anymore when he's 10 years older than the people chasing. I didn't get tricked one bit by that second half of Aaron Rogers.

He was playing pickup ball in the back. Those weren't meaningful games. Those were jokes. He was playing a lot of bad teams. Red Zone would never go to those games. He was just spamming balls to his best friend over there, loving life like it was his last hurrah. Russell Wilson was playing meaningful football. He wasn't very good at the end, but he was playing. But Mike, here's the thing.

They had Justin Fields and they had Russell Wilson. And then Justin Fields was playing well until Mike Tomlin said, you know what? Russell Wilson gives us a better chance to win. Maybe they've looked inside and said, hey, you know what? I think Aaron Rodgers, even though he's been playing bad in New York, gives us a better chance to win than what we've already seen with Russell Wilson. I'm not saying it's not a difficult decision to make.

Like you weigh the pros and cons, but the more that you look at it practically, counting numbers, age, I'm not even talking about off field headaches, like it doesn't make sense, like he has fallen off completely since trying to force a ball to Devontae Adams and missing a wide open receiver underneath in the playoffs against the San Francisco 49ers. He's fallen off a cliff,

and on top of that he tore his Achilles, like this doesn't make any sense. You also, if you want to cite Greg Cody's quarterback rankings from yesterday that led into that whole debate over Geno Smith, Russell Wilson was ranked 23rd in those rankings. Aaron Rogers, 22nd. So how much better are you getting? Okay, but would Aaron Rogers be an upgrade over Daniel Jones, for example? Yeah, yes he would. For one year, Rodgers is a good stopgap

One year quarterback for somebody but he hasn't been well He hasn't been for the Jets he was on a bad Jets team and he couldn't elevate it But it's a fact that no matter the competition. It's a fact that his second half Of last season was good that wasn't considered a bad Jets team until he made it a bad Jets team That was not considered a well the deeps the defense was considered Okay, that that Jets team had hope when he was the quarterback They were favorites and to win the division at the start of the you've said that a few times And I said you keep repeating that and I don't think that's true. I think the Bills were always you guys know

I'm telling people wrote the Bills off bills had a lot of last season the bill like the Dol's true. I think the Bills were always the best. No, I'm telling you. No, people wrote the Bills awful. The Bills had a bad off season. The start of last season, the Dolphins were ahead of the Bills. It's another thing that you invite with Aaron Rodgers is like, hey, what makes you most comfortable? Al Lizar does, Nathaniel Hackett does. The guy has, he's his own worst enemy

because he carried so many mediocre people to success that they would never see otherwise McCarthy all these OCs that got jobs fat number 80 he just elevated everybody to the point that his mind got shaped that this is who I am just give me these mediocre people constantly hopefully Tomlin's different if they do bring him in I actually do think Tomlin would be different and I can see how it could work. Do I trust Aaron Rodgers more to not lose me a Mike Tomlin game plan than I trust Russell Wilson?

That's the conversation I guess folks should be having. You know who I would go after if I was the Steelers? Jameis Winston. Wow. Jameis Winston can- Talk about Mike Tomlin's head blowing off. No, Jameis- No way! That's not a fit for that. It's like one of the worst fits for that team. No way! Wow, Jamis Winston can talk about Mike Tomlin's head blowing off Because of the turnovers it undoes it like they have they have to win in the margins They cannot be turning the ball over and Jamis will did you see the work you did for Fox for the Super Bowl?

That's a new man. That guy is Buttoned up and he's coming to work next season for whatever team signs him. That's a man that means business next year. If I'm a team out there looking for a quarterback, I look no further than Jameis Winston. Okay, that is excellent anarchy from you. I will point out again to the audience that the big change the Tampa Bay Bucks made

from going seven and nine to winning the Super Bowl was just eliminating Jamis Winston. For the greatest quarterback ever. Like, come on, what are you doing? Everything else was a self. By the way, it was breaking protocol and having secret workouts while no other team

was working out. He's fine, who cares? Jamis Winston, I'm pretty, did he throw 30 interceptions? 30-30 club, yeah. He's the only one, like, who's gonna do that? Okay. History. But just, I want everyone here, okay?

I hate to break it to you, Aaron Rodgers is a lot closer to Jameis Winston than he is to the version of Aaron Rodgers you think that you're gonna get. Okay, you're wrong on that. I'm not. Okay, again, I'm gonna just keep saying that. I know that your analysis, Dookie, is eh,

when I say 30 interceptions, I know that that's, I know, I know, yes, I know. It is a big number. I know, but 30 interceptions, I know that that's... Yes, four years ago. I know, I know, yes, I know. It is a big number. I know, but 30 interceptions is... As opposed to the zero made up interceptions that Aaron Rodgers had last year. Okay, I assure you, I assure you, that Aaron Rodgers will not throw 30 interceptions

in any season remaining. He may never play again. Even if he's running around out there at 80 years old with a dialysis machine trailing him, he will not throw 30 interceptions in a season. Go ahead and find me the two quarterbacks. Did any two quarterbacks in the sport last season, did Kirk Cousins and Baker Mayfield

throw 30 interceptions together? Combined? I don't think so. That's not how they're- Oh man, Cousins at the end of the year is as bad as I've ever seen. That's not, that's not how- That's not how you're writing him off for something He did four years ago you did that with Josh Allen to him. Where's he now? Okay?

Billy did it four years ago They replaced him and immediately won the Super Bowl replaced just his 30 interceptions Just got Tom Brady to stop throwing 30 interceptions, and we are such Aaron Rodgers jilted lovers He was our favorite of all time and he hurt us repeatedly and we just want to believe he was the best version of himself but I think we got to accept who he is now. I accept that Jameis Winston is who he is. He is not buttoned up after his work for Fox this offseason. We'll see. Give him a chance Steelers, you'll see. I won't be proven right because no one's gonna give him a chance but that's not because what I'm

saying is wrong. It's because no one is willing to take the chance on him. You will not be proven right because there has never there has never been a worst fit in the history of the sport for a conservative run-the-ball team the Steelers than Jamis Winston. Baker and Cousins combined for 32 picks this season but Baker at 41 touchdowns by the way. If you tell me one quarterback does what two does take them any time. Hey friends it's Jerr Bear here and I'm here to tell you all about Boost Mobile, which is now a legit nationwide 5G network. So I must take a break from the jokes here for a second and put on my serious voice,

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