The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Jon Lieber Stat

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

Jim Abbott did WHAT as a hitter?!?!?! AGAINST WHO?!?!? Then, Amin asks the crew to handle a segment without him while he poops, and Roy and Chris tell the story of their day at Florida Panthers camp. Meanwhile, Jon Gruden wants to get back into coaching... should he be welcomed back after his racist, sexist, and homphobic comments? Chris Cote's limited fake Gruden returns. Plus, after Amin's poop and Adnan Virk showing up 3 minutes after he was supposed to, he and an infuriated David Samson's segment can't get off the ground. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. What was the name of the football player, remember? From UCF, right? Yeah, of course, Shaquem Griffin. Shaquem Griffin, remember?

When you guys were like, oh my God, how's he doing this? And I'm like, I mean, it's kinda like a billy club. He's using, it's almost like an advantage. He's whooping everybody's ass, just swinging it indiscriminately. I can't believe what you're doing right now. I'm just saying, sometimes, it's almost like an advantage. He's whooping everybody's ass, just swinging it indiscriminately. I can't believe what you're doing right now. I'm just saying sometimes, it's like Oscar Pistorius. Maybe he was a disability,

but maybe also a little bit of an advantage. Okay. Maybe. Sometimes it could be both, Dan. Well, I did make that argument once with Anthony Robles, the wrestler, who didn't have legs, and therefore his upper body was unbelievably strong, and they're in weight classes,

and not having the legs gave him an advantage. I will not- They couldn't grapple him. They couldn't grapple him because the limbs weren't there. I know, I can't take him down. I know. You can't, how? You try to grab, but it's just a nub,

so it keeps slipping. Hold on a second. I need to stop everyone now, because I'm totally not sure, I'm not sure, because sometimes the times pass me by. So I used to say homeless person and now I'm told. Unhoused gentleman. It's unhoused, correct.

I'm not sure about nub. You're throwing around nub here. Judges, no we're good. And I'm not sure, like everyone knows what we're talking about, but it seems indelicate to me. And it might be OK, but I don't have anything, I don't have anything better than Nub, but I'm uncomfortable with Nub.

And I'm more uncomfortable with you trying to somehow diminish Jim Abbott's accomplishment by saying it's easy because you go bam bam and you're not throwing a baseball that's being hit by anybody. This is what I'm going to say. I'm going to say I do not mean to equate Jim Abbott's plight to that of Shaquem Griffin and Anthony Robles. I feel like those guys, and I'll ask for the stories, those guys all in a weird way had

an advantage, right? I could see how Jim Abbott could be, you know, a little debilitating as far as trying to be the best baseball player possible. A little debilitating. A little debilitating. I'm saying it's not as big as you guys are making it up. Not as big as you guys.

Now, okay, the only thing is, I mean, the only thing is if like there's a bang bang play, that's really hard to do all this while a laser's coming back at you. I accept that. But I mean, they stopped trying to bunt on him, he fielded his position so well.

At one point they were trying to take advantage of him by trying to bunt on him, but he fielded his position too well to do it. Well also, bunting is a bad play, so. It wasn't back then, we had to learn that. Guy's got one hand. It still isn't't damn good play See the line or you dinosaur of a barn also you're you're

Down playing the fact that he could only play on one half of the teams in the MLB, right? Because at his time if he played in the National League you would have to actually hit that imagine if he had one hand Look up his career batting average because I do bat do believe he had I do believe he had at bats. I don't I'm out on it. I don't believe he was regularly batting but I think he had at bat. I will ask you to check that for me. I do not have it in front of me. Dan there's a podcast here that I just wrote down revisionist sports history where we go back in time and figure out for the first time amazing sports feats from the past that we've either forgot about or never heard of.

Dan, he had 21 at bats. I mean, he's just playing tennis. Two hits. Who, wait, hold on. Three RBI. Who, what? What? He had three rimbies.

What? What? Jim Abbott had three RBI? Who what? What Jim Abbott had three RBI Are you kidding me? Do you realize that none of us we none of us would go to for 21? It would be impossible for any of us got a go to for 21. How the hell does he have three RBI? I'm looking at it here. He's got the nub on the bat He's not playing tennis. You sad son of a bitch who's pitching right now. You gave up a hit? Come on, come on.

Hold on, we're not gonna let this guy just skate. Who was that pitcher? I'm with the mean-uns. No, come on. We need to shame that person. No, we do not need to shame that person. There's no reason to shame that person because they gave up a hit to the amazing athlete, Jim Abbott.

Hold on, now I'm seeing it. So he gets to press the nub against the bat. The Cubs had a Leiber, is it John Leiber? Yeah. That's who that is, let's shame him. Let's get him on. Yeah. No!

Yes, how did it feel? He must have felt like shit after that, right? Dan, you always say, what was the lowest point? That guy's my lowest point when I gave up. My lowest point is when I gave up an RBI single up the middle to Jim Abbott who had one arm. That's a great answer to that question. I don't think we're being fair.

He's a professional athlete who had three major league RBI. The move there, if you're the pitcher, you throw it inside on the hands, hard. Jam him. Because you could not turn that around. There's no way. So let's put up a listener's critique of Greg Cody, because Greg Cody is saying that it is totally arbitrary.

It is random to just make it about 50-50. Who cares that it's 50-50 instead of 51-51? And a listener writes in, Greg Cody calling Shohei's 50-50 chase an arbitrary and contrived milestone while planning his 70th birthday on a yacht where his sons are mandated to give a speech is amazing. Yes. That's a great tweet.

That even had my dad being like, that's a good tweet. That's a good ass tweet, man. What does your dad have planned for Saturday? Because your dad, Amin was talking a little bit earlier about my relationship with my dad, and he is right when my father never looked at me as anyone other than Danny. I was never in charge, I was never the boss, I was only Danny who he's known as always a six-year-old and

Chris and Greg have the same relationship and Chris gets buried because of How impatient he is with his father on the Greg Cody show? Featuring Greg Cody that very popular podcast that Greg has and the best dynamic on that podcast is the fact that Chris is perpetually looking for ways to undercut his father, who then very often will get genuinely annoyed. Your father is beloved around here, but your father is an enormous diva, and I can't imagine how frustrating your mother has found planning this birthday for him because he pretends like he doesn't want to be involved with anything and then he wants everything to be just so.

That's the annoying part is that he's doing the thing of like, I don't care who taught, like he's trying to like get to me on the side, like I really am not mandating that, even though he is, that's the part. He's trying to back off all the things and you think, you're not skating on this, Dan. He was talking to me yesterday, he's like,

I think we should make the whole Greg Cody show episode next week, stuff on the boat, content. And I'm just like, dad, we've tried this before at Moss, we never do as much content at these things as we think we're gonna do, so what we're gonna do is we're gonna save like a 10 minute chunk, Yeti will go around, talk to people, and we'll have a little chunk of it.

And he's like, what do you mean? We could get all the speeches, Dan's gonna talk for 10 minutes, we could have that. And I'm like of it. And he's like, what do you mean? We could get all the speeches, Dan's gonna talk for 10 minutes, we could have that. And I'm like, Dan. I was like. You have 10 minutes of time? That's what I'm saying. My dad, he's doing this thing where he's like,

no one has to talk, but then in his mind, he has Dan talking for 10 minutes, which is crazy. And I'm just like, lower expectations. If we get more content, fine, but we're gonna just set aside a 10 minute chunk for it. Could you speak for 10 minutes about Greg Cody? Like if just we'll replay your thing from his birthday. How about that? Well, that wasn't 10 minutes long It was like now it's close. That was long for real. It was a monologue. Yes

Yes, I could speak about Greg Cody for 10 minutes. It would not be hard, but it would not be complimentary either It would be all about his unrelenting narcissism where the greatest gift that you can give him is just make him the center of attention. Yeah, I'm roasting him. I told him. Now, guys, I really want to talk about this. This is really interesting. We're gonna get back to Greg Cody and the yacht party,

but we have a Jim Abbott update. Let's go to Jeremy on the scene. Gigantic Jim Abbott update. What do you mean on the scene? He's just over there. Two career hits for Jim Abbott, both of which were against John Lieber. We have to get him on the show. We have to get him.

Sullivan, get him. We have to get him. Two hits? One, I get it. You got lucky, right? All the pitchers in all of the major league, 21 at bats. Was it the same game?

It wasn't two different games? Are you telling me that Jim Abbott was two for two against John Lieber? Like he had two at bat? Well, it was over the span of a couple games, I imagine. I'll look at the splits, I think two for five career off John Lieber.

So 400 batting average off John Lieber. That's a hall of famer if he just... What do you mean that's a hall of famer? It's the best baseball player ever. Anybody who hits 400. The Splendid Splinter. He did not hit, the Splendid Splinter did not hit 400 in his career. He did it one season, and it was one of the most amazing seasons in baseball.

Oh, the second, it was a line drive over shortstop. That shortstop needs to field his position. That shortstop should have got that ball. So wait, now you guys are foisting it on the shortstop How about the guy who let the one-handed man hit will you please stop this play it again guys? I want to see this shortstop not jumping you guys are doing this incorrectly Okay, and it's in keeping with how it is we cover sports these days instead of celebrating the amazing achievement of Jim Abbott You guys are critiquing John

Lieber instead. Stop doing that. That hit his glove. Stop doing that, please. It's indelicate, it's insensitive, it's borderline cruel. Look at that lazy ass pitch he threw. What is this? Look at this.

This is like pitching to your kid. T-ball. Oh my God, of course he rocked it. Shortstop's got gotta make a play there No, man, that's it was above his glove man. He is kind of playing tennis It is what's happening like a forehand Well, it's a bad guy because he's left-handed so it's he's He's hitting it backhanded

Again, I just want all of you, you guys are giggling about this, but I want you to just think for a moment, because one of the great flatteries at our age, as we celebrate 20 years, is the sheer number of young people that I run into that I'm floored had our show handed down to them from their fathers in the back of the car.

I want you now to imagine all of these people who are learning for the first time that there was a one-handed pitcher in the pig because he was one-handed he was not one armed but he was one and a half armed he was missing he was reporters I'd say he was me too me too. 1.75. No. It's half an arm. It's not three quarters.

Half an arm stops at the elbow. He's got way past his elbow. It wasn't way past. Look, get that out bad again. You'll see it, it's a nub and it's, hold on. And the nub almost fits nicely up against that bat. It does. It's almost to the wrist, to be honest.

Do you think he has to lotion that part of the nub or else it gets like a blister? Of course, it's, oh, there's so much friction right there, but look at it. You can't even tell, he doesn't have another hand. You can't have too much oil on it, though, then the bat goes slipping out. It's like that nice balance.

I'm sure it's a specific lotion. You need like a petroleum jelly. There it is. It's nice and sticky a little bit. We found it, we talked it out. Abbott's gotta have a sense of humor about this stuff, right? Like, he wouldn't be offended by this. He'd be, if Abbott's watching this right now

He's like, ah, look at me still loving it. I don't I cannot speak for Jim Abbott I'm not comfortable with anything that we're doing. He'd love all this. Okay. Thank you for your very comfortable speaking for Jim Abbott I don't think he'd love the assessment that as one of the great athletes ever in the history of that sport You accused him of playing tennis like I don't I don't think the assessment that as one of the great athletes ever in the history of that sport, you accused him of playing tennis. Like I don't think that he would find this as amusing as you seem to find it. I am weirded out by the fact though that we've landed on amusing instead of amazing about this.

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Stugats. I ain't cheatin'. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. ["The Stugats Show Theme"] Do you guys know a lot of adults who can't really control their bowels, who don't have like Crohn's disease? Because Amin is allegedly a disciplined adult and he just had to run out of here.

And he just asked me, I just had the awkward exchange of, can you handle this without me? And I'm like, well, I'd rather not. And he's like, well, I have to go to the bathroom. And I'm like, well, I'm not comfortable telling you to not go to the bathroom. Like, I'm not gonna tell you to just sit there in some sort of discomfort. So now we do the segment without a meme.

Do you guys know a lot of adults who can't control this part of their life? No, just my six-year-old. I actually heard of his dump in a different way through the poop chat he texted two minutes ago. Second dump, the milkshake was a bad idea last night, at which I responded in the poop chat, Amin, we're waiting for you.

And he wrote, my insides are on fire. I get very frustrated every time I walk away from this microphone how you guys always descend into some version of toilet talk almost every time I leave and the fact that there is on our Slack a chat chat where you guys are always giving each other updates on this stuff, Roy, this isn't in any way for you. No, absolutely not.

Do you even understand it? Because I'm mystified by how much they enjoy telling each other about the fact that they're pooping. It's not funny. It's not clever. It's just giving people little updates on how disgusting they all are. The idea of that being a Slack channel is hilarious.

It's actually just a text, a group chain. That would be hilarious if we brought that to Slack. The Shat channel on Slack is a show chat, Shat. This is why I'm glad that I have an Android so I don't have to deal with that sort of stuff. You know what, Roy, I'm gonna add you. You, okay. I don't want myself into that one.

Are you a morning guy? How regular are you? Morning. All right, good. How did it go for you guys with the Panthers yesterday? Did you enjoy yourselves? You went out to their first media day, did they have the scent of champions?

Chris and Roy bombarded the Panthers, but we are not a rights holder, so they weren't particularly wanted there. No, it smelled like winners in there, man. It was fun for me. I hope that you felt the same, Chris. It was very fun, I can't wait for people to hear an exchange that I had with Bobrovsky.

That's all I'm gonna say. I don't wanna sell it. I don't wanna, it was just, I tried to do a thing. And you know, Bob can be a little tough. That's all I'll say. Well, when I heard you guys were going out there, I thought that in order to make Bobrovsky, because he's a champion and he's great,

but he's terrible as an interview, I thought we should bring sparklers and party favors and work with him on how do we make you a more exciting interview. You're a champion now, people should see a little more of your personality, because he's not exactly a content machine, the goalie for the Panthers. Well, that's an interview that's designed for you you because you tend to open people up a little bit more

I act them open I asked them about his spill spirituality and he kind of opened it was a good answer He Roy got the best answer out of him. Honestly talking about his spirituality Okay, so we will have that one the next week a couple of seasons after Seven or eight seasons when they win the cup again. Okay, very good. I look forward to that. I saw yesterday, emerging from the shadows, giving an interview, trying to get back into the game,

John Gruden says he's interested in coaching college football, and I do believe that college football has gotten just dirty enough that if Urban Meyer can easily reinvent himself over there and if we're willing to just put down all of our moralities that John Gruden will never work in professional football again, you can't litigate against the NFL and then get back into the NFL. But I do want to remind people of some of John Gruden's reasons

for banishment because I think if I ask you guys, I think if I ask the audience, do you know that John Gruden is sort of banned from football? The answer will be yes. But if I ask them, do you know why? Do you know the details? I think you need some reminders on the details because he's been really busy fighting the NFL on how this was leaked and how he lost his job that he thought initially he was going to keep because when the first bits of this information came out, he entrenched himself on I'm not going anywhere.

Now you gotta keep in mind, this person was the highest paid employee at ESPN. He was the voice of Monday Night Football. It was a different age, right? All these people are now being paid three times as much. But back then, he was the voice and face of football at ESPN and he could have gotten any job he wanted.

He was a kind of coach in waiting the way bella check is his reputation was pristine and he loved football the way we love football he basically brought to the broadcast what romo brought initially to the broadcast is not doing it the way brady does it it's it's that it's the way john madden does is like this guy clearly loves what he's watching and that's infectious all but in the shadows, he does some stuff

that is homophobic and also, wasn't there some racism in there too? Oh yeah, yeah, there's a ton of stuff here. Just a few things that leaked out through these emails. Gruden called Roger Goodell a F-sler and a clueless anti-football P-sler. Gruden also said that Gadel should not have pressured the Rams to draft quote unquote queers,

referring to Michael Sam, the first openly gay player drafted in NFL history, in messaging Bruce Allen, the former Washington football team president, he sent messages with topless photos of their cheerleaders. Gruden also joked to Allen that he should tell Brian Glazer, the co-owner of the Bucks, to perform oral sex on Gruden. He mocked Caitlyn Jenner for receiving an ESPN award following her gender transition.

He stated the players who protest the national anthem should be fired, specifically regarding Eric Reid. He also used a racist stereotype to describe NFLPA Executive Director Demora Smith saying, dumb Boris Smith has lips the size of Michelin tires. Oh, that's bad. I'll tell you man, I apologize about all of that. I'd love the coach again, man.

I love football players. You could tell that Gruden's been out of the light for a little bit, cause Chris's, you know. I'll tell you man, I thought that was pretty good. Nah, it's not great. I haven't done it in a while, thought that was pretty good. Bit rusty. Dusted it off. Bit rusty. It's caliendo. That's okay, I tell you though. But wait a minute, it's not great. I haven't done it in a while, thought that was pretty good. Bit rusty. Dusted it off. Bit rusty. It's caliendo.

That's what I'm doing. That's okay. Caliendo. But wait a minute, it's all right that it's a little bit rusty. Like you guys gotta, man, I am so tired of the culture around here of undercutting. You guys were not happy for Pablo Torre on Family Feud. Chris is trying a thing there. He's broken out his rusty impersonation.

The hardest things to do around here in front of people are impersonations and singing. Those are the bravest things, the most vulnerable things. I could do both, man. I'll tell you what, man, I love football. I used to be Jay, remember? I'm not usually John. I'm Robert and Kirk.

Now, what's the Jay? Can we hear Jay versus John? Robert and Kirk, where are they at, man? Where are they at? And so where's John? I'll tell you, man. John loves football players, man. I'll tell you this right John? I'll tell you man. John loves football players man. I'll tell you I'll tell you this right now I'll tell you I'm gonna tell you again, and I'll keep saying it cuz I'm gonna tell you I love football players man

And I apologize about all that stuff. I said I Really apologize man. Oh It's in man, I was like shit shouldn't have said that I really apologize. I'm super sorry man. He loved football play He's going to get back in the game. He's going to somebody somebody is going to say northern. Iowa here. I come baby All right too much There was some Hispanic in there I heard it too I heard all right I'm not crazy No, I love a hand turkey man. It was Juan Gruden there. I heard it too I heard all right I'm not crazy no it was love a hand turkey man it was Juan Gruden there I heard him there I don't know how it is that you had a Hispanic accent but you did you needed you were

doing fine and I don't mean to undercut you it's just you you got a little too cocky and did I mention I apologize man yeah yeah, all that stuff. Yeah, indeed all of it just a blanket a blanket apology What are your thoughts on? John Gruden getting back into football because I heard you guys To America before the show Yelling at each other about Lane kiffin. You guys for some reason are just fascinated with coaching carousel stuff in ways I will never be fascinated with

coaching carousel stuff and so when you tell me the name John Gruden I'm just like that person should never and I'm a forgiving person but he should never work in the coaching of people again. Like when those are the things on his resume, the disgrace of that isn't something that should be welcomed back into that workplace. However, I am used to that particular workplace being more immoral than most. And so, I do shrug my shoulders if you tell me he's possibly gonna get back to teaching kids Because we've professionalized this so much that John Gruden is a name that will have I assume value somewhere Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna be surprised if I see him, but no I'd rather not see John Gruden on the sideline

But remember it would be good, but I apologize, if you remember. Yeah, we heard that. For everything. You did. Football players, man. Can he come in as a head coach, or would he be willing to come in as an offensive coordinator? Would John Gruden be willing to come up the ladder of shame by being an assistant coach instead of a head coach?

The only way that it could have happened was if Saban was still at Alabama and he took Nick, uh, Nick Saban took him in and he made him a defensive coordinator, an offensive coordinator, whatever he wanted to be. And then helped him through that pipeline of recycled coaches that get that rehab tour. It's hard because we've seen really bad coaches and really bad people get that second, third, fourth chance, right? Like Hugh Freeze ends up at a Christian school in Liberty and then all of a sudden he's like, hey what

did Hugh Freeze do? He's a nice guy, he's here with us at Liberty. Or Bobby Petrino now back at Arkansas like, oh when did that happen? Oh that's right. There's Brials all over the place. Kendall Brials I believe is coaching at TCU and you know it's like the offensive analyst role. It's not even a coordinator. You sneak them in just in one of those roles. It's like right now on the rehab tour for coaching, Scott Frost is an offensive analyst under Sean McVay.

This is always how it goes. They're an analyst, and then all of a sudden, they're back in. When you said Kendall Brials right there, I had no idea that's what his son's first name was, and I just had this weird, like Kendall Jenner and Art Brials being being one person and that's one of the oddest Okay, it could have stayed a thought in your head and not spoken in my own. It could have not

I'm sorry about that man. I apologize for that as well. I'm going to turn my mic off. You could have just kept it to yourself Yeah, okay. You know what I'm gonna do here. I'm gonna just Kendall Brials. What the comp? Minor penalty, two minutes rambling. ["The Last Supper"] Some thoughts just stay in your head. You don't have to say them all at a microphone. Like that you're just doing word association.

Hey, you said Kendall and I thought of a Kendall and it was Kendall Jenner and it's Kendall Brials. That's a Brials adjacent Brials. That's not the Brials. Art Brials is the problematic Brials and he will not work anywhere. He has tried to whiff around college football and he keeps getting run out of every place with every minor assistant coaching job because people are like, nope, that's too many crimes to bring around. That's too many brows actually This goes into the camp of am I surprised right we were talking about it last week

Am I surprised that Dave Grohl had a child that I wedlocked? No, I'm not surprised. Well, John Gruden coach again Yeah, maybe I'm not surprised if you will I'll be like, oh, okay. He's at Kenesaw State. Sure Okay, but I'm asking you as a head coach. You're putting him in charge of everything like you can't somebody will be desperate enough to do it Dan That's how it always is that's the redemption tour right like you say you're sorry, and then you go do Small school and then they start winning and then all of a sudden you get called up to a bigger school and next thing You know you're back. Have you seen it all sports. I mean they recycle coaches often So I'm not gonna be surprised at all the vampire the biggest Example that we have Rick Patino's like I'll never come back guess where he's at he's back

Yeah, but the things that he said so specifically about the executive VP of the NFL PA and about the Commissioner of the League and Literally using slurs about everybody like I'm not saying he'll be back in the NFL, but I'm saying he'll be back. Look, Urban Meyer keeps coming back, how? He's not even good. He's good at college football, he wasn't good at pro football,

but you guys are so cynical and numb at this point that there's not a series of scandals or allegations that I could put in front of you where you would say, you know what, that person cannot work here again. I mean, Diddy. That's, that's, okay, someone who is lacking the freedom to be able to get out from behind bars

to go do the job in college. So you guys are basically saying that Diddy could be a college football coach. That you're, the Diddy equivalent, if you were a college football coach, would be able to get back into football because football so immoral that there's no line for you guys there's there's nothing that will stop you from hiring a name to be around power. Did Diddy win a national

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Go peepee. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. The Diddy thing, I know that David Sampson, when he was on with us yesterday, didn't want to speculate about whether or not that was going to be a prison sentence that was going to last the rest of Diddy's life. But the idea that he would be denied bail because he is a flight risk, because you're worried that like Russell Simmons in Bali, he's just going to vanish. Like I was thinking when he was in trouble and they were surrounding his home in Star

Island, I was thinking he should get on a and they were surrounding his home in Star Island I was thinking he should get on a boat and try to get away from all of that if he thinks he's going to get out of this This is escalated to a place where he is somebody who should not want to be in this country anymore I just want to clarify something you brought up the Russell Simmons comp yesterday. Russell Simmons was never indicted for criminal charges. He's been sued, but he's never been indicted. So it's not the same thing. Sean Combs indicted on charges, and so A, him fleeing is a thing, and B, I'm pretty sure they would have had their eyes out for both at that point. Like once the federal agents are raiding,

they're not just kind of saying, oh, I'm sure he's fine. You don't think that Diddy has the wherewithal, the Dave Canales wherewithal to be able to get out of the country by boat before now, he can't do it now, but you don't think that he has the money to be- Like as a stowaway? To be smuggled out of the country. I don't know about that. You don't think that he has the money to be like a stow as a stowaway smuggled out of the country Like you don't you don't think that he could do that. I don't think he could stow away

No, not stow away. Just what do you mean? Just not stow away just get out of the country by boat and what type of boat are we talking about? Are we talking about a super yacht? Are we talking about a cigarette boat? That's what i'm saying. I think dan What dan's implying is like he gets onto like a bunch of containers and you open, they open these containers up and they open up as just boxes and they open one of the boxes and it's like... That's not what I'm saying. I'm not suggesting a cargo ship that he would be in a shipping container on a cargo ship. I am saying that I would have

assumed that Diddy had the money to just get out of the country on a boat That would not be seen by the authorities you believe that I'm wrong about this. Those aren't avocados Everyone believes I'm wrong about this. This is something that you don't believe no Dan I believe you but this this conversation is outrageous. What this is crazy. This is the one that's outrageous Well, the Gruden thing was also ridiculous, but we just moved on over. I apologize, man. Jim Abbott one was great.

I told you, I apologize. John Lieber, Jim Abbott, if we could go back there, that was tremendous content. It's maritime law, Dan. Matt Sullivan is trying to track down John Lieber. He has found his telephone number. For real? Yeah, so we're gonna try and get John Lieber

before the end of the show. We will see if we can be successful in that regard. Before we do that though, and before we get to David Sampson and Adnan Virk, I want to play for you some sound of Michael K. And I wanna understand the sound because he's talking to John Flaherty? What is it that they're talking about, Chris Cody?

John Flaherty is one of the analysts that Michael K. works with, and apparently there's different schedules, different games, it's like, and I guess there's politics on who's working with who. And you're gonna hear in this clip that Michael K. and John Flaherty don't work together a ton, and there may be some reasons for that.

Yeah, and you know, you weren't very talkative on the bus this morning to the field, but as I was driving here, I was thinking it'd be great to get a place that's close. You could walk back and forth. I know you mentioned Don Zimmer living out the apartments out center field, but I just had a lot of time to think on the team bus today because it was just very quiet. So you'd rather me be chatty. I wasn't feeling great. I haven't seen you in a long time, right? You don't work road trips anymore when I'm on the road. So I thought we would catch up, but it quickly was evident that you weren't in the mood.

So I gathered my thoughts about how it would be nice to live close to Wrigley, walk back and forth to the park. Interesting narrative that you're putting together because I've been told by executives that you prefer to work with Ruko That's why that's why you two guys are matched up all the time. I Mean, that's just what I heard. I don't know if I just put it together that the road trips You don't want to go on that I end up working with Ryan Ruko because we're willing to work the games on the road ground ball to short Swanson

Listen John. I don't pick out my schedule, I go where I'm told. I'll be very chatty tomorrow. No, I just wanna make sure that you're okay. I was a little worried about you. I think you were worried that I wouldn't be talking much on the broadcast. That is just uncomfortable.

Wonderfully awkward. David Sampson and Adnan Virk are joining us now. David Sampson was making faces. I don't know if he was making those faces because of the Michael K sound or because Adnan Virk is late again. It may have been either one of those things. Which was it, David?

Oh, it was clearly the latter. It is now 18 minutes after the hour. This was called for 15 minutes after the hour and I've been sitting here for 180 seconds. It's a fair point by David. Three minutes, he'll never get back. David Sampson is very punctual. He thinks, do you find it disrespectful

when people are late? Because you're never late. I've never once known you to be late for anything. I just respect other people's time. Time, you know, is my thing. I'm a I'm running out of it. I don't want to sit here staring at an empty chair waiting for work for three minutes. It's it's ridiculous. What are you doing? It's 719 in the morning where I am. I've been working since 330 a.m. What are you doing at man that you can't be on time?

Vancouver radio hit 10 a.m. Eastern and they went a little long. Normally they're 15 minute hits. I fear it would be done. They really want to talk Brewers David. At least you can appreciate the passion for baseball, the good people in Vancouver. And they want to talk with the Mariners. How did Julia Rodriguez get picked off last night? The 10th. I called a hard out ad, man.

You tell people before you do a hit what your next responsibility is. I know. I know. You're right. A fair point. I'm not gonna dispute this. I'm with Samson, punctuality is everything. Then why are you so lacking in punctuality? What are you talking about? Hang on a second, Leventhorne, you cannot use one example of now saying,

I'm lacking in punctuality. I'm not missing shows at MLB Network. I'm not a habitually late person. I'm on time. This is one example. Am I wrong? Absolutely. But let's not all of a sudden build a narrative.

My wife does this to me where it's like, oh, I did one thing wrong and now I do this all the time. No, I did this right now. Okay, we're not turning this into all the time. Except the last time. And also John Flaherty did this to Michael K apparently. That was super awkward. Go ahead. Wait a second. Tell this story. John Flaherty did this to? Tell the story. Alright, well, no, you weren't here.

You were late, and so now we have to play. If you had been on time. Yes, if you'd been on time, you would have heard the sound. Now, no, please, Chris, let's play it again for Adnan so we can do a personal show for Adnan because he's three minutes late and didn't hear what we were talking about. Yeah, and you know, you weren't very talkative on the bus

this morning to the field, but as I was driving here, I was thinking it'd be great to get a place that's close. You could walk back and forth. I know you mentioned Don Zimmer living out the apartments out center field. But I just had a lot of time to think on the team bus today because it was just very quiet. So you'd rather me be chatty. I wasn't feeling great. I haven't seen you in a long time. Right. You don't work road trips anymore when I'm on the road.

So I thought we would catch up, but it quickly was evident that you weren't in the mood. So I gathered my thoughts about how it would be nice to live close to Wrigley, walk back and forth to the park. Interesting narrative that you're putting together. Cause I've been told by executives that you prefer to work with Ruko. That's why, that's why you two guys are matched up all the time.

I mean, that's just what I heard. I don't know if there's any truth to it. I just put it together that the road trips you don't want to go on that I end up working with Ryan Ruko because we're willing to work the games on the road. Ground ball to short Swanson. Listen, John, I don't make out my schedule. I go where I'm told. I'll be very chatty tomorrow. No, I just want to make sure that you're you're okay. I was a little worried about you. I think you were worried that I wouldn't be talking much on the broadcast.

Nice. And then that's not what was done by now. No, if you would listen to it the first time, you'd have known when the sound was, SOT was done. Secondly, the fact that we had to play it twice to placate your being late, I'm so infuriated, Dan, that I don't even feel like doing the segment. What? It's like the guy who shows up in the meeting, sunglasses on, latte, hey, sorry guys, what did I miss? I need to bring that guy up to speed.

I'm that guy today, I apologize. No, you're not worthy of being that guy. You're just a bedhead guy in an Expos T-shirt sipping water you haven't even spoken yet. Yeah, Expos t-shirt saw it. Thank you for pointing that out, David. That is strong. My favorite parts of that audio are Groundball to Short and then just the ominous organ music in the background. You don't often get ominous organ music. Whatever happened to the Expos, by the way? That's a great question. David Sampson is with us.

He could probably answer it. We'll do that another time because we have to get to the top five movie lists that they've put together. What is the subject that we're doing today? This is the subject. I just saw a tweet that said the sunset in New York will not be after 7 p.m. until March. So we're entering now the dark period,

which is always a bummer. But we're gonna do the top five movies that remind you of end of summer slash beginning of fall because that's where we are. Okay, well we don't have time for that right now because Adnan was late. So let's... Don't put it on me, Dan.

Come on, we can make time. Let's go. We've got 14 seconds left in the segment, so just stay there and we will come back in a moment. Let's call the hard out Adnan. Yeah, I mean... Hard out, bird out. I'm contracted for one segment only Thursday.

See you later. We can book for two. That's good news. Okay. I'm contracted for one segment only Thursday. See you later. We can book for two. That's good news. Okay. When you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals that are right for the role. That's why you have to check out LinkedIn Jobs.

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