The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Lucky J

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

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Welcome to the Big Suey. Presented by Draft Kings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not going to have. apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted

in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan Labrador's show is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. You delivered that with excellent enthusiasm. Zaz, of course, is a professional, has been a professional for a long time, but he just did something that made me a little bit sad. There was just sadness that swept over me. I don't know if you know what it is that you did. But Chris Cody asked you to go get that read and you got out of the chair. Oh, no. Yes, with a groan and then just sort of marched over to the read in a way that made me

sad about 20 years of radio. It was a grunt. No, you got up with a groan and you trudged over there to do it and normally that kind of age is something I only get around here from Greg Cody and I've noticed you know he's walking with a cane he's coughing so there there's some mortality here that's happening to our show and I was I was just talking to Carl about this the other day because I'm like Stugats is working on his thing where Stugats Cody comes in one day he's like after 21 years Carl says there's going to be some wear and tear on the vehicle and so seeing Zaz, one of the newcomers, one of the youngsters, get up with a groan to do the live read, made me sad, and you didn't even know you were being watched.

That's what happens to you buy a youth card, Dan. Excuse me, certified pre-owned. So one of our new personalities, Chris Cody, who has learned a lot at Metal Arc Media and has been growing as an executive producer, has produced very few things, very few that are magical. but Big Mac's take of the day. Oh, that's my dog, Big Mac. Yeah, Big Mac is, I don't even know. What would his job be?

Because he's a very affable man who greets us every single morning with dolphin takes. And he's happier now because Chris Greer has been let go. And he generally just gives off a lot of happiness. But the dolphins have made him miserable for a long time. And so how would I describe Big Mac's job here at the Elser, the luxury Elser? What is that job? We have a parking garage downstairs, and he's kind of the. guy who lets people in. All right, you can go through. No, you don't stop. I think he's like

security. No, no, no, no. So he's not the gym? This is a big job. No, he's parking sir. He keeps, that's a huge job of like, you're allowed in here. Okay, you're in trouble delivery. In a, in a condo slash hotel in downtown Miami. Doc master is what I'm dog master, yeah. Okay, so he's the, so Big Mac is the doc master here. And I, I learned the other day that he's got a twin brother. He's got a twin brother. And I met both of them. But so he's got his takes of the day, are we all getting the same takes? Because he greets us all. It's his way of saying hello is to tell us what's going on with the dolphins.

He must tell all of us because this one in particular that we're about to play the morning of Monday when we came in after that big Dolphins' Bills game. Everyone was like, did you hear Max take? I think he just gives it to everyone as they walk by. But it's the same take? Not always, but this one, he's very concerned. He wanted to get this message out. He has a theory on why the Dolphins beat the bills. All right, this is one of the finest things

that Chris Cody has ever produced. Big Max, take of the day. Man, you know that game was bitch, right? Man, I saw it. I saw how when Cook was acting. I ain't never seen him from a no ball. And then I saw how the quarterback was. Oh, he was acting off fatigue like it was 90 degrees.

He looked weird the whole game. You already know. And in the way he was scrambling, Chris. He was scrambling like, come on, guys. Is that you walking away from him? Big Mac's take of the day. Does he know you're recording him? He knows that I have the ability at any moment to be recording it.

I thought Big Mac was walking away from you, like doing his job. You were ditching him? I mean, he gave me the good stuff, so I'm like, all right, that's it. I'm walking away. He just keeps it going. The sound is you walking away from him in a surreptitiously recorded conversation that may have been illegal, that he does not know that you are errant. Right, you're going to hear the first 20 seconds of this. This is illegal.

I think he's fine with it. Man, you know that game was a bitch, right? Fine, with that accusation? Man, I saw it. I saw how Dalvin Cook was asking. Still next to him. I ain't never seen him from a no ball. And then I saw how the quarterback was.

Oh, he was acting off fatigue like it was 90 degrees. He looked weird the whole game. Every few already. And I'm like, all right, we're good here. He was laughing. That was a fake laugh. He's not laughing for real. That was fraudulent.

Big Max, take of the day. When I worked at the Sons, there was a security guard named Kim. And this dude was the most positive man in the world, but his claim to fame was he always had the last word. You could never have the last word on him. So you'd walk. He's a good morning. Good morning, Kim. How's it going?

Not bad. Make us better. Thank you, sir. You do the same. Like, yep, always moving up, Burton. I'm like, all right. And so, like, he would greet you right then. You got to take the escalator upstairs.

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Additional terms at DKNG.com slash audio. Limited time offer. Don Lebatard. I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now, your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture. Stugats. I would die.

I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. I know that people get frustrated at the amount around here that I talk about sports media things, but I do not care. So go ahead and play that imaging. We haven't played it in a while. Play the imaging of us talking about sports media beef. Do you get annoyed every time Dan Levittart pontificates about the sports media industry? Well, too bad motherfuck!

He knows he don't give the damn about what he's going to say. It's time for sports media talk today. I made that one too. Before I get to that, Jeremy, can you just give me some live YouTube chat? What are the people saying to make fun of me and us before I run all of them off? Definitely making fun of you the most here. Let's see. I've gathered a few.

So from Ty J. more Jeremy because of no Billy is really a kick in the groin. From Waneo, Jeremy embracing togetherness, who would have thought? Dot, dot, dot, dot, cupcake. From Crout Cat, Jeremy is a lucky Jay who knows

all the right people. Shocker with a lightning bolt emoji. What do you think he means by that? That's to signify the SS, of course. And then from Dat, Journalism. Jere Emmy is a saint and should be protected at all costs. Oh, that's nice. The Emmy and Jeremy is capitalized. Everyone was so nice.

What's a lucky gentleman? Is it because your name is Jeremy? It's either Jeremy or journalist maybe. Was it a Big J? It is a capital J. They do that with Pablo. Okay. Zaslo, why are you smirking?

Because he made it about himself? I just, I like hearing from the listeners. That's all. I like getting their thoughts. Zazlo. Big J as well. You're a lucky J as well. You are?

A lucky J. That's what my mom told me. I'm a special boy. Lucky J. The one who gave you your bar mitzvah bonds, right? That's right. I got those barmits. I got those stocks and bonds on

Sunday night. Hell yeah. You're one lucky J. One lucky J. What team are we buying? Diamondbacks? Let's buy the Diamondbacks. I'm weighing my options here, all right? But your boy... Lucky Jays do love diamonds. Your boy fell into some money. That's right. I'm going to take it to the bank. I'm going to cash them in. Oh. That's right. You can't control the banks.

It's a little bit. Spend it all on John Cena's final match. What's a little bit? Well, let's just say. I'm probably going to spend it all with John Cena's final match. Uh-oh. So not the diamond bags. I might have to contribute a little on my own.

When you talk about lucky, Zazlo has been on an incredible hot streak. Everything he says turns to gold. Mississippi State wins its first conference game. Sneaky decent. Its first conference game in two years. Every time there's a punch on a football field, someone somewhere internationally is reaching out to Jonathan Zaslo. Stop telling me if I know about that lamb man.

The sports media story that I want to talk about those, Zaslo, And I wonder, amongst all of you, I think you're going to find parts of this interesting. We know all of these people. I like and respect to all of these people. But this beef is ugly in a way that's public now. And so you've got, it starts with Michelle Beatle, who is a friend of ours. Michelle Beatle has been very critical over the years of Stephen A. Smith. And this is long running.

They don't seem to like each other very much. And so here's what Michelle Beatle is saying most recently about Stephen A. Smith. Because I don't respect him. And I don't, life's too short. The minute, literally the minute, the morning of my last day on get up, as Greenie was giving me a heartfelt goodbye. And I awkwardly sat there. As I was leaving the set, they started a promo that Stephen A. Smith will be on the show tomorrow. Like, it is him.

So let's stop acting like the guy. A guy gets work to death. It's him. Yeah. So that being said, I'm like, he made you look like fools for handing him a blank check in the first place. because he doesn't even give a shit about the stuff that he's paid a gazillion dollars to talk about. And now he's turning around and turning that into a money-making opportunity. And then the money-making opportunity turns out it looks like it's a fraudulent crap business to begin with.

Honestly, I'm not a religious person, but I pray for the downfall. I really do. It's going to be amazing. It's going to be amazing. It's gross, man. You've got to have principles in this thing. Look, my principles have definitely cost me money. I'm sure they've cost me jobs.

I get it. But I don't regret a single one of them. And sometimes I've been very holier than now, probably in some of the things I've believed in. All right, it was true to myself. But, man, at some point, you just. just say no. You think? But why my problem is why are the other people not saying no? Like, listen, I don't know. Why is this

downfall going to be amazing? I don't know. It's just like a stupid stupid opinion. Like, why is Stephen A's downfall going to be amazing? Oh, a lot of people are going to enjoy that downfall because a lot of people don't like the climb and don't like many of the things that Stephen A. Hitsmith has done, including who he's been critical of. Because

this, of course, is going to become about race, and I want to have the larger conversation about everything happening around Stephen A. Smith politically, where he's being used as a very useful tool by the right, but also profiting with great results on all the conquering he wants to do. But bringing to his doorstep fights that are now much larger than the ones he was having when it was just sports as he continues, because he's a conqueror, to gather audience and welcome all of these fights. But this one surprised he, even him because Kerry Champion, after what Michelle Beatle said, this is what Carrie Champion said he should have done in response to Michelle Beatle.

Stephen A. I played that Michelle Beatle clip for one reason and one reason only. I'm old enough to remember being on that show and getting in trouble based on some comments you said about women and whether or not they should know their place when it comes to abuse or non-abuse. Ray Rice comes to mind. Not going to get into the details of all of that. But Beetle just came for you yet again,

like she did when I worked at ESPN. I wonder, do you have that same smoke for her? That you have for Jasmine Crockett, that you have for Michelle Obama, that you sometimes display for me and Jamel Hill. Do you have that same smoke? I'm sick of it. Keep the same energy.

and I call you and I root for you and I say hey I got your back I'm happy for you but you keep that same energy sir for everybody I understand Carrie's comments we'll get into that for a second but I just want to seize on useful tool kind of minimizes Stephen A's convictions on these matters I don't think Stephen A is down to be used by anybody I think Stephen A knows exactly what he is doing I I'll preface it with I don't know any of these three people I mean and I've literally never talked to Michelle Beal or a carie champion before I don't audience people. But I, like, I hate that from Carrie Champion. And the reason I, the reason I personally, I have personal feelings about that, just the way that I am is, like, it's very

clear that Stephen A, and Stephen A says this, it's very clear Stephen A certainly played a role in Carrey Champion's career. And Carrey Champion, sorry, and loyalty is a big deal to me. And, and it's why you're going to see Stephen A is really upset about it because clearly he feels betrayed in this spot. And I feel like if someone was really good to you and someone was a good friend, I don't know why you would do what Carrie Champion did right there, where she's essentially saying, hey, you know, can speak down about Michelle Beatle the way you speak down about these other women. But I mean, loyalty is a really big deal to me. And I think it's really lame what Carrie Champion did there. Okay. So let's get to Stephen A's response here in the second. But just so

that you know, I mean, this goes without saying, this is something that I would say to Stephen A. Smith and probably have, because he finds himself to great profit in the center of these race and politic wars, obviously not a great look for anybody to have a fight with the white woman and then come back strongest at the black woman when you're critical. Because Stephen A. Smith lit Carrie Champion on fire, taking credit, I think, with truths that he was saying about really trying to help her career. And this is, I believe, as hurt and betrayed as you will ever hear in an honest fashion, what Stephen A. Smith is saying, because even before you've heard this entire sound, what Zaslow is saying about Carrie Champion there, when he says that's the part that's wrong. Well, no, the part that would be wrong is what Stephen A accuses her of here, which is saying, I never said those things about you and Jamel Hill.

What things are you talking about? And at that point, it's beholden on Kerry Champion to show us what those things are. Because here, Stephen A. Smith is just accusing her of flat out lying in order to get the clicks that come from being the person who piles on in this situation and takes out Stephen A. Smith, who is having all sorts of trouble with the black community because of the number of things that he's saying that are disparaging to the black community. You should be ashamed of yourself. You just said, Kerry, you called me, you root for me.

Why would you root for somebody that called you out in Jamel Hill, who's your good friend? Because it's never happened. Never. I've shown you nothing but love. What are you talking about? you are hired at first take in large part because of me. You stayed as long as you stayed and had the support of the people that supported you because of me. Do I need to get bosses to confirm that I'm telling the truth?

You know I can. When we see the diverse people that come on first take, black people, women, the list goes on and on. who did that that wasn't happening when skip was there how with me what are you talking about that's the that's i guess the dirtiest part of that sound but that's a shocked hurt and betrayed stephen a smith like whatever it is that you might think about uh the character persona and wherever it is that he's a wrestling character who's made for television uh that one hurts and it's one of the things that sucks at being at the center of this war i will also say to you it's exactly what ESPN didn't want and it's exactly what ESPN chose when they put Pat McAfee on and cowboy hats and no politics and flannel shirts like it's a conscious decision and we're going to interview Donald Trump because they didn't want these wars near the sports and now that Stephen A's got more power to do this stuff in politics he's not allowed to do that on ESPN he's got two different deals now one's a sports career the biggest you've ever seen in sports and one's a giant's political

career now that's got real possibility because he is he is in a really useful lane to use all of the sports stardom and media platform to now become a real true political player and it doesn't matter whether you agree with him or not are you listening to him because the attention of the day and the currency of the day all that matters is the attention like the currency is just can you get eyeballs and he gets eyeballs and and he has to say things in order to get those eyeballs, and he has to keep up when other young, everybody's at this trough trying to chase him down. So what did we learn?

This is just so gratuitous. It just feels like high school gossip. I don't even know what our opinions are on this other than it's just ugly. You don't know what my opinion is on this? What are you unclear about? I mean, I hear your take, but it's not like I don't need the gossipy angles to know that take about where you stand on Stephen A. I mean, I think like earlier, like we victimized Stephen A.

I'm not down for that either. This is just all ugly, and I understand it gets traction, and people like when people talk about it. But this one's, this one's empty. It is. And so this is where all of the sports media beef goes to die? Because this is... No, I think some of them have stuff, but this one doesn't. Like, it's just people that are willing to talk and air stuff out.

Like, I don't even know what is at the heart of the beef between Carrie and Jamel. It's just mudslinging. No, Carrie feels that. he's not speaking about white women the way that he speaks about black women. Yeah, but there seems to be more there that she alluded to and we didn't get to. Like, it should, none of my business. There is more there. Like, when she mentions Jasmine Crockett, like Stephen A said that she has rhetoric for the streets.

Like, he called Ben Shapiro, like, a genius. Nick Fuentes, the guy who agrees with that guy from before who called me a Big J, he ultimately said that Stephen A is clearly red-pilled in embracing the right wing. Like when Nick Fuentes is saying he believes you're coming to his side, maybe your rhetoric is what's sparking some of these things with Kerry Champion. He had to apologize or decided to apologize for what he said regarding Jasmine Crockett. But there are examples what feel like weekly where I'm looking at Stephen A and going, man, I'm pretty surprised he's on that side of this conference.

conversation. And at this point, it's no longer surprising. It's just where he is. I'm not going to surprise by Stephen A. So it is what, like, it is what it is. But that's, that's the beef. I don't even think it's personal. I think that there is an element of like, man, here, this is almost the final straw. I don't think that this is the beginning. Well, she said she's tired of it. That was the final straw, I guess. But you guys don't, you guys don't find interesting when you step back and just look at the last, let's make it the last 10 years in sports. And let's make it, Colin Kaepernick was too hot for the league, all of that is blackballed. And just make it everything that's happened, the entire timeline, pandemic and everything else. Football getting in bed with every single

corporate partner and growing as, you know, taking racism, you know, out of the end zones where they were stenciling it. Patrick Holmes says something. Roger Goodell says, I was so wrong. And you still see that it's Portnoyan Crafts Box. And you see what's happened. with the move of what happened with Joe Rogan influencing young bros has now happened, okay, over here in sports. No, but I want to talk about the all of it. Yeah, but I don't want to talk about the all of it because it becomes like the same conversation we've always had.

Like it moved because progressives are much better at taking it on the chin because the right is actually effective when it comes to cancel culture. Like you see what they do to major corporations. They kowtowed to a right base because they're the ones that actually get up in arms when it comes to cancel culture. Progressives have had to take it on the chin for 12 years. And if you want to use empty tweets as an example for snowflakedom and all of this, actually moving a conversation, it's all BS. I'm a huge sports fan.

Donald Trump has been inescapable when it comes to sports. The divide of keeping sports and politics, that that lamenting. meant that came from the right. It's all BS. They just wanted to keep away politics that disagreed with their person. But how do you not find interesting the obvious shift of that over the last 10 years? That's not something that you find interesting. There was a societal shift. There was a societal shift. And I think it's at the heart of it, it's money because the right is far more effective at actually canceling people. I mean, the rights in leadership, right? Like the people who are comfortable bringing Donald Trump onto McAfee's show and having him be like, hey, look,

it's Veterans Day. He's the commander in chief. But I mean, let's be the guy's really funny. Like, that type of stuff happening on ESPN is because the people who are in power at Disney and everywhere else, like, that's who they want in power, right? And white men continue to seek and have that power. And it's just, it's all laid out right in front of us. It has, sports media is sort of a result of where everything has gone. It's a, it's a microcosm of what we've seen generally in society as we've shifted this way. Yo, where's it mean?

Hey, Taylor, that's where you've been this whole time. What's up, man? I literally thought he had left the room. I was wondering, because I hadn't seen it, I had forgotten. It was so long ago that he dipped down under his computer. Do you take my elevator? He didn't. It was much slower than that.

At first, I thought he was looking for something intently looking for research in a way I've never seen him try to prepare. But then I thought he was rummaging around in like a suit. case or something because he flew in this morning, I thought he was under the desk, and then I completely forgot about him. And then, because Mike Ryan is telling me, poking me in the ear with get off of this subject, I thought Amin had just left the room to go to the bathroom because he's been lately incontinent, or the opposite of incontinent, I guess. I mean, would you like to rejoin us? Not really? Do God's! You're here, too? Wow!

Tony's top five is somewhere out in the wilderness. Before I get to Tony, though, let me get to the useless sound of the day. I want to get to this because I feel like every week we're getting to it later and later. We only have it on Wednesday. I'd love to have this on Monday or Tuesday. Regardless, old football sound that's useless is still tasting fresh. Howdy. There's nothing mystical about it.

I believe in the guys we have, people in the room, coaches and players. You know, football is the greatest team sport that there is. I have a good feel of our players, and I know what we're capable of. I know what they're capable of. And so, I don't know. But it wasn't just buying that we have. We have staying also. Realistically, it was a full week of preparation that was diligent and quite honestly a little salty.

Yeah, it's unfortunate, but, you know, unfortunate it got hurt. They're in big people and, you know, there are some. small spaces to get through and our guys created some good spaces. I always love the fight. I mean, that's why I love coaching them is that they fight and they compete. It is truly all 11. I don't know. I don't really think about scoring points. I just say it's unfortunate you got hurt. Part of winning in the national football league is sustaining. Bad on the coaching, bad on the players. Right now we just had a tough one here, Connor. We'll take a look at everything. They just block all that crap out, man. They just go and they play football. It's the

unintended consequence of adversity. I think we've had our fair share of reps of having things not play out the way you kind of set out for them to play out. Didn't feel like they did anything unanticipated, but certainly they outperformed us, particularly in possession down play. He's been doing a great job. I mean, he's been busting his rear. He does every day. When he comes to work, he grinds on it, man.

Their players made plays. Our players did not. A week to week league, you've got to bring your A game every week. I truly believe it was once you build a foundation, if it's truly stable, then you can sustain winning. When he was going in there, somebody said something like, like, what? Like, don't put them in. There's ebbs and flows and you just have to stay steady, stay even killed.

I think our team has a bunch of mental toughness, resilience, and the ability to be able to respond. They stay connected through the good and through the challenging moments. You know, third down. Yeah, I mean, the reality is we gave up a 19-point lead to lose the game. I can't see anymore. I was actually really pumped. I told two of some third-down calls to let it rip down the field

and kind of operate it as an opportunity to, you know, act as a punt. Look, I'm not sure exactly the play that had happened, Connor. playing play well enough today i don't know the exact play that it happened for him relative to getting hurt or not getting hurt we'll be back we'll be better uh we have to be i don't know the play like i told man i need you you know i need you i don't know the play i think for me the more i try to focus or overly focus or overly try to do something i tend to get worse at at what i'm doing did did dan campbell say that someone was grinding on it grinding on it dog

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I've seen roosters in that particular area, which doesn't seem like an area where roosters should be. But where are you joining us from? You're under a highway, Tony. Dan, yes, thank you so much. I am at the foot right now of the I-95 right next to Jose Matty Park. And, Dan, you may remember a movie watchers may remember this scene, this place from Scarface, Rebenga.

Oh, wow. Underneath the I-95, Freedom Town, Dano, yes, the 1980, Mariel Boltlift, all the Cubans they sent literally right here. They had a huge town of tents, tent city right underneath the I-95 right here, and that's where I'm at, Dano, a very little known part of Miami. That is hugely small movie trivia, but 10 minutes of Scarface was filmed in Miami, and then the Cubans got mad and sent it to Los Angeles. is what do you have that kind of thing but it's a strange it's not exactly a movie hallmark no one goes to that place saying i remember this scene from scarface this is not a tourism place i mean it's actually like a historic place and the fact that you have to be like it's the place from scarface is kind of crazy living uh yes thank you thank you amine thank you so much mike

yes dan it's a massively important piece of our history imagine how many people 200 150,000 people got let out from Cuba sent right here because we didn't have space for them. Okay? And it was just like, all right, you're going to live underneath the overpass. Is that okay? And everybody's like, yeah, I guess it's better than communism. So, sure, we'll live under the overpass. Also, a lot of people from insane asylums and jails because Vidal Castro sees on an opportunity to purchase country of people and knowing that the U.S. would not turn anybody away.

Like Tony Montana. Exactly right. And that's why they said, you know what, it's better than living in an assailant. asylum or in jail in Cuba. I'll live under the overpass. It's okay. So Freedom Town, tent city right here, baby, Rebenga. Dan, we're going to start the OLLI.

I got a lot to say this week. All right. We're going to right through the OLI real quick. Number one, bears are sneaky tough. The bears are sneaky tough. I don't think anybody would disagree with that. Sneaky tough. Oh, I mean, disagrees with it. They need to be the Giants.

Without Jackson Dart? They overcame a 10-point deficit against the Giants at home. Who can do that except three other days? teams. They've won two-thirds of their games. It's six and three. Not impressed. Let me jump in and remind the people, Tony's top five is presented by Smyranoff, the official vodka sponsor of the

National Football League. Smyranoff, please drink responsibly. The Smyranoff Company, New York, New York, vodka, 40% alcohol by volume. How many other OLL you got, Tony? Four more, but again, we're going to get through them real quick. Number two, Davis Mills, Gamer. Aha!

Wait a minute. Somebody once told you. There's something there. Amin has something to rival Tony's hello. Apparently not that quick. Cody's, Cody's, hello. Aha! That's very Eddie Murphy.

Where's the spoon? Aha. It is. Aha. Lucky Jay. All right. Number three, Mike McDaniel, talk your shit, boy. Let's go.

I want to see him riding on that Matt Black Bentley with the arm out and elbow room. Like, yeah, what's up now, baby? What's up now? We beat that ass, baby. What do you say, Zaz? We took that ass? Yeah, but like they're three and seven, Tony. What kind of behavior is that?

But you don't like football. What do you know? You don't like football. You know about that land man, by the way? Everyone's telling you. Stop texting me. You know about that land man. I don't care.

All right, or a line number four. Two teams won 4422, which is cool, nothing important. Just wanted you guys to store that away for your record. That's not a useful observation by any kind. But two teams won 4422 exactly. Okay, we always cheer Scorogami in this place. How about, how about a not scoreagami, but like something cool to just store away for your record. Week 9, 2025, 44, 22, it happened twice.

Okay, whatever. It's asinine. Baby cart walking by. I'll tell you what else, Tony. Jacoby Brissette in that game was 22 for 44. Weird. No way. Like stutter?

No, no, no, but hey, I thought you were doing a thing on me, bro. You've been a sucker lately. Number five. Number five, last one, or no, last OLLI here. Here come the Ravens, Dano. Hello. Thank you, Greg. Tony, these land, these, okay, these all deserve to not be mentioned.

Everything you just said deserved to just start on the outside. Yeah, and his defense, I mean, OLA for a reason. Start with number five. Exactly. All right, number five. Bo Nix, more like Bo stinks. Get it down with the X. Stinks with the X at the end.

Stinks. All right, put it on the poll at Levitard show. Does Bo Nix stinks with an X? Number four. With an X, yeah. Number four, Jonathan Taylor's on pace for 2,200 yards and 30 touchdowns. Do you know what that means, Dano? Are you going to put him in the MVP conversation?

No, I'm not going to put them in the MVP conversation. but the R.B. is back. Jack, running back is back in a big way, baby. I don't believe that's accurate. Number three. Number three, then you might not like this one. And I might get a lot of flak for this one online. Josh Allen is Philip Rivers. He'll never win a Super Bowl. He's going to be a great guy, he's going to go to the Hall of Fame.

He's good. He'll win an MVP. He's never going to win a Super Bowl. It's just not in the cards from Josh Allen is Philip Rivers. I love Philip Rivers. I love Philip Rivers. He's great. Another window. Hall of Famer. So hold on. So I cover this correctly, just to cover the spectrum. Yesterday on the show, this is one week after beating the Chiefs.

Losing to the Dolphins is such an indignity that Zaslow says the bill's window is closed. Tony says Josh Allen will never win a Super Bowl. And Greg Cody says the window was never open for Buffalo. That it hasn't been open for 50 years. There's never been an open window because they're Buffalo. That happens one, that happens two weeks. No, one week after beating Kansas City. Yep, exactly.

Thank you. You're tracking. And Juju's been telling us the bills are not good for a while. So it's done. So none of you said this after they beat the Chiefs. None of you. We all did. They're five and one against them in the regular season.

Who cares? That's literally Zaz's analysis. Who cares? So the game beating the team. beating the Chiefs means nothing, but the game losing to the Dolphins means everything. Beating the Chiefs in the regular season means nothing. Losing the Dolphins is so much worse

than beating the Chiefs is good. It's like playing well at Summer League. Dan, if you play well at Summer League, nobody cares at Summer League. But if you play poorly at Summer League, I was like, oh my God, it's Summer League. How could you be so bad at this? Same thing. Number two. Number two, I think the Patriots are legit Super Bowl contenders, Dano. I think the Patriots are legit Super Bowl contenders.

I think they could be a sneaky one seed in the AFC. And I think if things break their way, Drake May takes that next step within the step that he's already taken this season. I think they can find themselves in the Super Bowl. One win in Tampa and one loss in South Florida. And you guys have now given the AFC East to the Patriots, and it's over, and you're going to make the Patriot Super Bowl champion possibilities.

When none of us would have said that four games, Maybe it's muscle memory. They've been doing that for 25 years down here. You're just scared of them? That's the, it's Pat the Patriot. It's how good Drake May looks. That's the real scary thing. Good. That cross and round throw? He's good. Yeah. He's good. He's good. You've got two, you've got two better than changing the entirety of the AFC East. Yeah, and this one might not be a popular, a popular pick, and especially after what happened Monday night. I think the Eagles are going to win the Super Bowl. It happens every year, okay? There's a team that is in flux.

There's a team that has this great potential that in the middle of the season, there's turmoil, there's turbulence. We don't know what's happening with this team. AJ Brown is putting weird quotes. Jalen Hertz, what is he doing? He's throwing the ball into the stands. The Eagles are just fine. They're going to win the Super Bowl, Dan. Remember I said it here, the same week that we had 244 to 22 wins.

That same week, I said, Eagles are going to win in the Super Bowl. We'll replay this in February when the Eagles beat. the Seahawks or something in the Super Bowl. Excuse me, they can't be the Seahawks, my bad. When they beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl, rematch of 2018, Eagles are going to win the Super Bowl. I don't know why I said Seattle is. There's the dismount right there.

Tony's greatest of all the achievements was Philadelphia and Seattle in the Super Bowl. Put it on the poll. Back in the day, it could have happened. They were in the AFC. Did you know that? But weren't the heat in the Western Conference? They were. Astros in the North.

We were? Southwest Division. Yeah. Thank you, Tony. I can't believe that the ending of Tony's top five is a Philadelphia, Seattle Super Bowl. Thank you. You're joining us from something that is definitely...

It's not a landmark. It was just temporarily a homeless encampment. You know about that landmark? It's a strange place to join us from... Thank you. I don't... Hello. I can't believe that Scarface has held up for 45 years

so that Tony's joining us from a parking lot. I actually recognize. I bet that inaugural Western Conference heat team wasn't taken off a back-to-back because of rest. Tell you what? Because he sucked. You think Ron Rothstein would let that happen?

You think Ron Rothstein was like, hey, you can rest tonight. You're going to rest. Another lucky Jay. Is that your limited fake Ron Rothstein? Yeah. I'm going to tell him tonight. I'm going to see him tonight. I'm going to say, this is what that kind of Ron Rothstein.

That was not a good. You're going to rest tonight. You need a rest. Ron Rothstein, the coach of of the 15 win heat is the guy that you want managing today's player Zaz Jeff Prolman put a podcast episode out

I'm dying to talk to him I'm dying to talk to him It's going to be my favorite Zaslo show 2.0 ever I want him on my shelf He calls the 1988 expansion team the greatest expansion team of all time That's a great episode Now is a good time to remember where

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