The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The New York Jets Mess Continues To Grow (Feat. Dianna Russini)

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

Dianna Russini joins the show after her bombshell report this morning about the dysfunction around the New York Jets franchise, including Woody Johnson turning down a trade for Jerry Jeudy because his Madden rating was too low. Plus, Bill Belichick circled back to the New York Jets and Mike Ryan found it sad. We move on with some songs to spread the Holiday spirit including an absolute banger from Taylor about Bill Belichick going to North Carolina. Stephen A. Smith had some interesting takes about Miami and it has Meech completely freaked out. Then, we watch some video of Kanye West at a deposition which leads us into a discussion about how celebrity affects mental health. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. that hasn't happened to you guys I've done it and now here's the marching man to nowhere fat face and the habitual liar. I Mean, I'm sorry. We do all look the same

No guys, all right relax relax. I slipped up. The name started with an AA. He ain't cooking today. The China's been saying I've been very good today. You're cooking. You're cooking. What I would say. Hold on. I want us to go for you. You need some help from your black friend. Yes. Mike is co-obwined. Thank you. Oh god. So, like, I think that was very well said by you, but here in like the American sports lexicon, you describe somebody being soft. So I can go on like a three minute soliloquy describing exactly why somebody's soft, or I can just label them soft, which is a lot easier, more efficient,

and it's why Stephen A. Smith is going to command $150 million. It's not easier though. You're right that it is easier, but it's not more accurate and it doesn't solve any problems for you, but it does make you feel better and more superior than the people you're talking about No, it's it's just is efficiency soft

Let's say I got to fit it in 140 characters and I can't fit what you said in 140 characters and today And I understand what you're doing and this is a great discussion But I think even you would concede when you watch the Ravens versus the Steelers Let me take this example out to the extreme. You can see it, right? It looks different. Those teams look more physical. The game looks more violent. Those teams look tough. Yes, and I would say also that if you give me a great defense, it's generally gonna look like that. And I would say in the case of Philadelphia, for example, you could tell me their offensive line is tougher or I can tell you they're running back squats

more than anyone in the league, and therefore there's gonna be some problems tackling him low when they have that offensive line also that is very good and very strong. Like very good and very strong can pass for tough. Yeah, well, I pose this question to Diana. Have you considered that there's a correlation? They're a good defense because they're also very tough.

Like Diana, like are there good defenses that are not tough? Usually that's the ingredient. Mike, you are spot on. Like the ingredient of a talented defense has to be toughness. There's no finesse in defense. No defenses dominating because they have a soft touch, but good mechanics and they're technically sound.

Okay, those could be true, but it has to be blanketed by overall toughness. Okay, but if that's what the sport requires. All right. But if I'm looking at Miles Garrett thrashing around on the field after getting poked in the eye Sunday, I can't say what is that? That's not tough. Now I happen to know Miles Garrett is obviously a superior physical specimen and I'm assuming at every turn that he is tough. But you guys are coming after Joel Embiid and he's somebody

that I assume is tough. He's playing through all sorts of injuries all the time and people are always questioning how much he cares. Myles came back in that game but, my problem with Joel Embiid is not that he is just like this unfortunate dude that gets injuries. I think I can understand that concept. I'm a huge Chelsea fan. Reece James.

Hammy's cooked. He's going to try to run out there. He's going to pull his Hammy. That's just his body type. I resent Joel Embiid because of his style of play. He's flopping around, his lack thereof when it comes to conditioning. And also, I resent him for avoiding injury when he's perfectly fine in a suit on

the bench. I want to see Joel Embiid go out there and eventually get hurt. Perfectly fine. Meach, I love that you and I have such different issues in life. Like you have this beautiful accent, obviously, and people think because of that, it sounds intellectual and perhaps in some cases softer. Whereas like, you know, I sound very New Jersey. It's the opposite.

It's gross and it's hard, right? So it's like, we both have to battle things separately, which is why in this Jets piece that was published today that I worked on with Mike Silver and Zach Rosenblatt, I want you to do the audio version of the Jets piece for me, because I think if I read it, Jets fans are gonna feel like I'm attacking them, but I feel like if Meach does it,

they're gonna go, okay, maybe things aren't so bad and we could give them some hope to balance out all the stuff that we uncovered about this team. It's a deal, I'll do that. I'm gonna get you right now the printout so that you can read some of this story. It is a banger. Again, she works for the athletic

and the news story she's talking about. Inside Woody Johnson's Jets, it's the most dysfunctional place imaginable. We'll get to that story in a second. You know one of the funny things, Dan, when you talk about how people are labeled soft, when Meech was playing, I've heard this before, like, hey, he's kind of soft, like,

what makes you say that? He's always reading books. Yes, I've heard this before, like hey, he's kind of soft, like what makes you say that? He's always reading books. Yes, I got that all the time. That's one of like the, in earlier years in the NBA, that was a red flag. Wait, does Ron read books too? Just the first page. But there's always these weird kind of things,

there was a player I remember, we were getting ready to acquire, and there were questions, right, there's questions. Should we, I I don't know what's he gonna do in the locker room, whatever and Like the big thing was that like he dyed his hair or whatever died his beard or whatever. That was the big What's going on here? And so it's funny how we've kind of evolved from that place But we're still kind of using the language that me just talking about Yeah, it's just that even in the arguments that I've heard from everybody, there's

so many accurate pieces to it that describe to me. And I don't, you know, of all the people in this studio, I don't know anything about these teams. But the way you've described, when you got granular with it, I could completely understand the frustration. It's simply that to me, that frustration is lost when we start using words that are bound to trigger

for no other reason than it's easy and we kind of like the fact that Joel, this person who is otherwise untouchable knows that we all think he's soft. Juju, put it on the poll please. Can you really be tough if you read books at LeBittard Show? Diana is very busy typing with one finger on her phone, texting, getting to all of the information. And I will tell you again, inside Woody Johnson's Jets,

this time I'll say it better I hope, it's the most dysfunctional, I'm not gonna say it better, it's the most dysfunctional place. It's the most dysfunctional. People must speak. Imaginable. I think the best detail in this is that they turned down a trade for Jerry Judy because Judy's Madden rating

wasn't high enough. I think that's the best detail in this story. We're gonna have Meach read some of the story, but Diana, do you think there's a better detail in this story than that one? It might involve Woody Johnson's teenage sons. Yeah, there's a lot there. I think the Madden rating stands out the most because I do think players worry about Madden ratings, but I always looked at it as something just superficial,

something that just played into their egos and just wanting to have a high rating and be among the best in the video game. But the fact that the owner of the Jets used a rating to make a decision about whether or not he was going to trade Jerry Judy, that was stunning to me. And there are a lot of people around the league who knew about it. And this wasn't the first time that Woody

had ever referenced a Madden rating in reference to Jets players that he either had on his roster or perhaps were targeting in the off season. So, you know, this trade was obviously with Denver and they were certainly blown away like, wait, you're not going to trade Jerry Dutie because of a Madden rating?

And guys, obviously, Woody Johnson's not sitting there playing Madden at 78 years old. I mean, if he is, that's cool, but I don't think he is. So the people that are, are his teenage sons. He has an 18 year old and a 16 year old son who he listens to a lot. And he's been part of conversations in the building. He's been in the draft room. He's in the locker room after games. The sons are part of it, which is normal, by the way.

Most owners have their children part of the operation, part of their business. But there's definitely a lot of people that have worked for the Jets, currently people that work for them right now as well, who say that the teenage sons have a lot of juice in the building and affect a lot of the decision-making. So I'd say the Madden nugget is certainly interesting, but to me, Dan, when I was collecting a lot of this intel,

the story about Mike White really bothered me. And we dug on this, Mike Silver, Zach Rosenblatt and I, to just get a little bit more information about how Woody Johnson was treating his players. So if you recall, Mike White was a bit of a New York hero there when he took over as the starter and tried to get the Jets in the playoffs. He ultimately wasn't able to do it. And he's playing with broken ribs. I know we talked about toughness a few minutes ago and he was out there just battling through all of this. And the story goes, he came in the locker room and he went into the shower and

right before he went into the locker room, you know, he's throwing his helmet because he's upset, obviously. And Woody Johnson yells out into the locker room in front of his teammates, yeah, you should throw your helmet. You suck. The Jets told me through a spokesperson that they later apologized. But that just tells you about the treatment of players in a building. That I understand that owners want to win. I think we all get it. He's passionate. He wants results.

But to understand what was going on there and to treat your players that way, I think that obviously is something that does not reflect very well on this Jets organization. So that's just another part of this and obviously there's a lot more to it. But they're still one of the best places to work in New Jersey, according to franchise sources. Diana's gotta go, she's got a hard out here

so unfortunately she's going to miss Meach reading some of her story. That's unfortunate, Diana. We will talk to you next week. Okay. I can't wait guys. Thanks for having me on Meach. I'll be checking this out in a few. Thank you. Meach, we'll have you read it in a second, but you were shaking your head when she was talking about the teenage sons and how normal that is in football workplaces. If you really want to win, your go-to for a person who really wants to win is nepotism for starters, and then nepotism with people who are too young to drink or vote. Yeah, those are the sources of information looking for.

I'm not telling you that young people don't have anything to offer. That's not my point. But if what they're offering is, by the way, have you checked out the score that's in a video game for somebody? I've got to think there's better sources. I've got to. That's like asking me. That's like if they approached me to say, hey, what do you think of this Judy guy? And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, you know, go for it or don't. Yeah, that's the quality of insight you're getting from a 16 year old who's relying on a Madden score.

Jerry Judy, two first names. It's unfortunate that Diana had to go because this is a bad week for the Jets and I still think the saddest story about all of this is, we all know openly, Diana's reported on it, Bill Belichick has opened disdain for Woody Johnson, hates New York Jets, right? Did you read the report that Bill Belichick

circled around to the Jets before he took the North Carolina job? Hey, this is your shot. That to me is the saddest detail around the Bill Belichick stuff. And it's not him just lurking in the background as he signs a player from Holy Cross. I have two songs to play for you guys. Taylor has one on Bill Belichick and we have a listener that has produced one to compete with Taylor's terrible song.

But we're going to end this segment with John Amici reading from Diana's story. A few weeks later, Douglas and his Broncos counterpart, George Patton, were deep in negotiations for a trade that would have sent Judy to the Jets and given a future Hall of Fame quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, another potential playmaker. The Broncos felt a deal was near. Then abruptly it all fell apart. In Denver's executive offices They could they couldn't believe the reason why?

Douglas told the Broncos that Johnson didn't want to make the trade because the owner felt Judy's player rating in Madden NFL The popular video game wasn't high enough According to multiple league sources the Broncos ultimately traded the receiver to the Cleveland Browns Last Sunday Judy crossed the 1,000 yard receiving mark for the first time in his career. There's something like soothing about his voice. Like it washes over me, like just soft ocean waves. Most of my team tells me it's soporific.

I send them to sleep. You do, but. You should do the Calm app. Let's do something with John Amici and the Calm app right now. I want to put something together now, but make sure it's got enough facial hair to be properly masculine. That's right. Stugacchi, I want to tell you a story.

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It's fantastic. They have a sub three-hour marathon runner, military trained athletes, a former college basketball player, and so many other well-rounded coaches on their team. All this experience really shows in their classes which are never short of challenging, especially for me. So I jumped on it that first time. It was challenging, more challenging than I thought. Then I wanted to beat the bike and so I kept jumping on it and I absolutely love it. I mean, I'm the only one who uses it. But again, they got it for me. I mean, I had no idea. That's a little passive aggressive that you think. Find your push, find your power with Peloton at onepeloton.com.

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He's the one who's got to like worry about what the future is. And Mike Ryan bet on DraftKings, cause Mike Ryan bet on us. This is the bet you're afraid of doubling down on? Putting up a billboard in Edmonton? Stugats! I care more about Matthew Kachuck than I do my daughter. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats! Well, the co-host chair is vacant, and Dan is losing patience. StuGots is a big no-show.

PTO, PTO, PTO Oh, the calendar has no indication Of a December-long vacation He claims he lets someone know PTO, PTO, PTO When we finally hear from him After weeks of being M.I.A. Dead in company reunion After weeks of being in my head, I didn't come for any reunion I'm gonna be out until May, while skippers should've seen this coming

The audacity's mine now, but I guess we'll just go with the flow PTO, PTO, PTO. Can you guys do me the favor of putting on the screen what's going on right now at our toy drive when I was watching Rose sort of hula dance, Hawaii dance on her back, not wearing her Santa beard, not, no, Rose, this is not how we do a toy drive. Santa does not lay down on the job.

I need you to get your beard on, and I need people to get to Dolphin Mall, get to Vivo, and conclude our toy drive today. Rose, how are you doing out there? Why are you not wearing your beard? This is not, you're very skinny for a Santa. How are you the skinniest Santa that we've had? Well, I was surprised to see Roy and Tony there because they told me we were on their staff and they were like, oh you have to be Santa. And when I

heard they were there, I'm like, what? What am I doing here? So my beard, actually, I have hair, but it's not a beard. So I can pretend that it's a beard because I cannot find my beard. Okay, that's very good work for you. We'll come back to you in a second to see how the toy drive is going. What's got airplane over there? It's on the track.

No, it's on the track of the Miami International Airport. Right there. No, but yeah, there's an airplane, but we had a fan come and bring us toys, so we're happy. Okay. We don't need to get too specific, bro, just keep a running count for me, please. All right, hopefully it'll pick up.

It's good, it's good though, that we got a fan bringing a toy. That's a good start to the day. Let's see if we can make it hundreds of fans bringing hundreds of toys. We'll come out to Rose again at Dolphin Mall in a second. But I want to play a couple of other songs here. Taylor's long past annoying me.

Taylor likes singing awful songs. And we've given him wide, wide berth on Liberty to sing these songs. Mike, what are you doing? He's there? Oh, no. All right, so a listener thinks that they can do a song better than Taylor does a song. Yeah, well, I don't like Taylor's

songs. He's a megastar. The internet chat agrees. They're all saying. Alright, let's see what Amici's thoughts are on Taylor's song about Bill Belichick. You better find out that boss PSI Belichick is coming to town I tell you, it's so, your voice is so wonderfully restrained It's amazing, it's like you treat the song with such reverence despite the fact it's about bollocks It's amazing He's saying how talented I couldn't hear what you said

but just thank you for the compliment You're most welcome All right, let's pop his clogs, get him out of here. Get him out of here. Thank you. Balance. Let's see what we have here from a listener. I don't know what this is about, Chris. Do you believe this is better or worse than what Taylor made for us? I'm gonna go with the worse. 24 was rough, the Dolphins are done McDaniel tried his best, just wasn't enough Bright spots they had a few and John who was one Tyre can't do it all the da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da A little over modulated. I think he needs like an engineer or something to mix it down. Needs more Taylor. I'm his son. Chris, you've got to use better judgment.

If you can't, like first of all, those songs have to be called Taylor made. And every song we play needs to be better than whatever's Taylor's made. Like every single song. It's impossible. It's not. Sometimes around here, good is bad, bad is good.

Like it's, you know. Are you a VIP? I'm a VIP. You a VIP? Always. May I continue, please? I want to play more Stephen A. Smith sound for you because he's talking about Miami

and I do want to get to this Tyreek Hill story because he set the internet ablaze with something yesterday that I was genuinely confused about its punctuation and whether or not he meant something else. But here is Stephen A Smith's point of view about women in Miami. At E-Girls XO, Stephen A, which city in the U.S. has the best looking women? And why is it Miami? Well, first of all, you answered the question. It's Miami. Miami is special.

It's special. And I'm not just talking about the city of Miami. I'm talking about the outskirts. I'm talking about going towards Coral Gables. I'm talking about going towards Coral Gables. I'm talking about South Beach. I'm talking about, you know, near Fort Lauderdale. I'm talking about Coral Gables, like I said before. You know it's bad in Miami when one of the finest women you ever saw in your life is at a gas station pumping gas in Miami.

That's when you know this place is different. Like different. I'm talking about the kind of beauty that stops traffic. Cats getting in car crashes because they screeching on their brakes. Causing three car accidents and stuff like that. And then the accidents happen and then people are like, what the hell is wrong with you? And they all look over at the gas accidents and stuff like that could you and then the accidents happen and that people like what the hell is wrong with you and they all look over at the gas station go like this. Oh, I understand

Miami's like that Okay, super creepy Incredibly creepy that is it that is incredibly. I mean talk about giving Childcatcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang vibes right there. I get the rough idea. I don't know what that's supposed to be. I know what he's talking, I know what, I know what, I know what Stephen Smith's talking about. I don't know what you're talking about.

The way he moved his fingers when he was talking at the beginning, as if he's just about finished licking them after eating chicken, that is gross. If I wasn't already gay, I'd be gay after watching that. I wanna talk some more about Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. I mean, when you came in here today, did anyone comment on your face? Because it felt like everyone noticed

only when I said something. Because I'm looking at you, you look like you're in pain, and the left side of your face looks like it's swelling more as the show goes on. Well, as you can tell, Dan, I've done a great job of kind of angling my body away from the camera so that all they see is the good side. Now I have a good side.

I'll flip around the other way for a second. No. But some of your teeth look like they still have blood on them. Your mouth looks like it's bloody. Does it? Yes. That's a bloody mess. Yeah, you mentioned that.

Nice. Back to the well. So on the way in, Amin, I'm sorry, Mech. Oh, Jesus. Wow. What is happening around here? It's the AMI thing. Like that a-me sound, it's a tricky one.

That is the lamest of excuses I've heard. No, with me it is. I mean, I mean. With me it is, I think they look exactly alike. This is what I thought. That, and look, let's stop hiding, okay? When I see a mean, I often see meach. When I see meach, I often see a mean.

I don't know why that's happening. Sometimes I see Roy. But they, but all three of them. Yeah, with me it's just pure racism. That know why that's happening. Sometimes I see Roy. But all three of them- Yeah, with me it's just pure racism. That's all that's happening. Appreciate you. I'm just an out and out racist. Out in the open, that's what we need.

So we've, you've always said that. You've always said that, don't hide behind the hood. My card is on the table and it's a race card. But we were driving in and on the beach because of what Stephen A. Smith says and because just there are a lot of beautiful people, there was a man running shirtless with six pack abs, and I'm like, there it is, Meach, all over South Beach.

And who noticed him first, by the way? I did. Oh. Are you saying Miami is special? So special. It's not special, the man looked like a sociopath. Miami is special. He had.

A jogger or Stephen A.? It's not special. The man looked like a sociopath. Miami's special. He had he had a dog or Steven. You know that what is what is this Christian Bale in in the film with the American Psycho? The obsession over over business cards? Right? Yeah. Right. So he looked like he was running listening to Huey Lewis in the news, waiting for the next person to approach him who he felt threatened by to murder them. Yeah, that's what he looked like. There's nothing attractive about that. God, he looks so hot in that movie, too.

This person also looked hot, oily, oily, and. Yeah, it wasn't sweat. He clearly had baby oiled himself before he left the house. That's correct. Who doesn't? Special. And the other thing that it led to a conversation on, And the other thing that it led to a conversation on,

can you trust anybody who has six pack abs? And doesn't have a six pack for their job? Right, so not a professional athlete that's taking care of their body in order to make money. Yes, that's a good qualifier, it's a good asterisk, because I'd maintain if you care that much about that, there are other things that you're not caring about that I need you to care about.

Like climate change. There's genetics, there's genetics, some people don't have to work out. I have my friend College Mike, that guy drinks a lot of beer. No way that anyone has a six pack without exercising. That can't be. He also doesn't eat for joy. He just eats for fuel. I just, I don't believe that you can have a six pack

without exercising. I'm gonna have my friend College Mike send me a pic. Put it on the poll at LeBittard Show. Can you have six pack abs if you don't exercise? And can you ever truly trust somebody who has six pack abs? Doesn't it show incredible discipline, Dan? Like on the opposite side of the coin, it's like, look how much I can lock in on something

and do it. Oh, agreed. No, agreed. Look how much I can lock in on something completely immaterial and unimportant. But imagine- Is this gonna, this segment is gonna just descend into your listeners just sending in thirst traps. I can see what's gonna happen now.

And I'm here for it. I would say to you that if you care about that, that obsessively, there are probably other things in your life that you're not caring about. It's obviously a blanket generalization, but if that's something that's that important to you, if you're a bodybuilder, I'm going to think the same thing. Like if you're a bodybuilder who's doing that obsessively,

clear, I think of bodybuilding almost as a body dysmorphia, really. Yeah, no, I often look at people that take care of their bodies, and I'm like, they're the problem. Agreed. I got it right. That person is clearly a psycho. You can do too much, you know.

Plus, half the time you look at these people, they don't look like human beings anymore. It's odd to me. It's odd to me. I don't want your skin to be like paper. That's odd, it's an odd sensation to be with somebody who has no fat whatsoever. Oh.

Yeah. You mean like leathery skin. Cushion for the pushing you're talking about. Yeah plenty of that. That's one of those things, yes. He was not talking about cushion for the pushing. I don't know why cushion for the pushing made an appearance other than cushion rhymes with pushing.

He basically said Zagacki afterwards though. I don't know what that means. I don't know what I want to say. Can you guys get for me please the sound from the Kanye West deposition because I do want to get to that in a second. Talk about creepy. The mics are so good.

Why'd you do this? And I also want to get to this Tyreek Hill tweet that was out yesterday that I keep promising to get to that I have not gotten to. But let's just, this deposition was amazing. And I don't know how much else here was as amazing as this, but let's hear this. I see that you're looking down at probably a device. Are you on your phone? Yes.

Okay. So I'm going to ask as a ground rule that you not be on your phone during the exam. Can we agree to that? Well, is that legally what it should be? I'm not going to advise you as to the law that's why your lawyers are here but that is my ground rule for the deposition consistent with California law that you need to be present focused on the examination and not on a device. Due to my mental geniusness, in order to focus on this, I need to be on a tone. You guys cut that short. You then put a mask on, and it was a wrestling mask,

and he started doing it that way. And you guys said, I ruined things, and you're smiling happier than I've seen anybody smile at mental art media. Mental geniusness is great. While he's laughing at that apple that says rooted in ignorance. It's so sad though, I feel so, I mean, he's a man, he has his own agency, I get that.

But I feel so sad that you can be so unloved or so exploitable that no one around you is willing to forcefully be there to help you not embarrass yourself publicly, not humiliate yourself, not make you more liable for the things that are gonna happen to you. It just seems incredible to me that no one loves you. This is the same as that scene in President Trump's first term

when he had toilet paper on his shoe. To me, it's that again. I saw that and regardless of the fact that I don't like him, I felt sad for him because he's surrounded by people paid to be around him, none of whom felt enough about him to stop him from embarrassing himself. And here it is again, my geniusnessness.

And one of whom is his lawyer. You would think that you would have said something. Right, especially if I'm paying you, you have one job, how about you prevent me from being more of a liability to myself and maybe even not humiliate myself. Wow. I've read some stuff recently about, because one of the things that he said, I'm the richest black man in the history of the world as he continued to talk on some things that can

almost easily be clinically, you know, diagnosed from afar as something in the realm of manic or bipolar. The way that he cratered Adidas as a sneaker business because of the crazed anti-Semitism and other things that he was doing, and he was so valuable to Adidas. I saw that they gave a lifetime contract to uh... damien willard but go go read i'm forgetting where it is that i saw it the story about the way that kind of what the way adidas had to backpedal from the size of his brand and name and everything else in a way it never wanted to because he what he was responsible for their entire ability to do business in the sneaker realm because of how giant his

brand is. And he's been that. I've seen him be some form of that since getting punked by Ashton Kutcher on MTV, like where his arrogance as an early producer before he was even any of this was something to marvel at in his early 20s. I mean there's video of his documentary where he's there like making beats in the lab and like you see the the pure ability that he has to create music and then you see throughout that documentary where he turns the character into his reality right and that's the part that's sad is

you kind of lose yourself in that in that creation but yet the ability is so amazing that it gets lost in translation. It's funny that you should mention that because one of the things that I couldn't believe where it is that people get lost in their character, I'd like to have this conversation with Stephen A. Smith because I think it's happened to him some, but one of the places that on South Beach Sessions, I noticed it just this week with Lewis Black, when Lewis Black performs, he doesn't know that his fingers are moving like that

because he's putting on a costume. He's been doing it for so long that he's putting on a piece of his identity and then getting out of that identity so that he doesn't actually become that. And so one of the things I enjoyed about talking to Lewis Black was just seeing the other side of him because it is he was talking about it like if you would put on a robot costume and that when he's done with his performance if

he sees video of it he does not know that he was moving his fingers like that that he doesn't have any any awareness of it the thing that sports television I've told you guys this with Max Kellerman and all the places where people talk too much, including here where it distorts me too. If you talk this much for a living, you become Colin Cowherd. Colin Cowherd becomes some form of what it is that he's trying to do or he has to consciously take that off and leave it at work in a locker and go home because the character will envelop you if everywhere you go that's all that people are seeing like what Stephen A Smith's life has become over the last five fifteen years is an insanity it's a true insanity where he

is just delighted at how he ends up in all of these amazing power brokering places with those people desperately wanting to be around him because he's a cartoon character on television. It's almost like severance, right? Where you have to go to work and like leave your work self there and then go back home and be able to be a normal human. Listen, nothing good happens when your occupation becomes your definition. When what you do becomes who you are, nothing good comes from that.

You guys have talked about this with athletes that finish their career and then Spectacularly go off the rails whether it's it's drugs or other substances whether it's gambling whether it's sex whatever it is they lose themselves because What happens if you define yourself for a period of time by the fact that you are beloved on television or you're a cartoon character On television or whatever else or you're a genius with music. And then all of a sudden you find yourself in front of a lawyer who doesn't give a shit about your creative skills. They just want you to answer some questions. It creates this schism. It doesn't have to be a pathology. I'm not suggesting it's some kind of psychological disorder. I think that's often we often pathologize

this stuff. But I still think it's sad that you can be that successful and have managed to reject everyone who might love you a little bit enough to challenge you out of your sphere. You think it's irresponsible of me to diagnose Kanye after the last three years as some sort of, on a spectrum, he's behaving in a way that suggests this isn't just fame and arrogance. You're not diagnosing him, like he'll reveal that.

Yeah, he's self-diagnosed. Even if he didn't reveal that though, you don't feel comfortable with that assessment based just on the behavior, like when you're saying to everybody some form, look, I saw this happen to my brother. A lot of weird stuff happened with my brother at the end, and one of them was this,

like where the mania gets to such a point that you feel like you're the biggest and most important person in the world But much as I said with Ricky Williams who had was diagnosed with social anxiety Disorder and that disorder is you go to the grocery store and you think everyone's looking at you But when he went to the grocery store everybody was indeed looking at him if you're predisposed the grocery store, everybody was indeed looking at him. If you're predisposed to a certain arrogance here and then you spike because of your brain chemistry

and stuff to a place where, is that genius? Because he's been rewarded at every turn. When you can crater Adidas with your thoughts. Yeah, listen, I'm not suggesting that he doesn't have traits of people who've got real psychopathy, real problems. I'm simply, nor even that you can recognize it when you see it in your family members, these behaviors. What I'm saying is, it does a real disservice to the millions and millions of people out there

who have similar disorders but don't behave in such aberrant ways. That's something to consider, right? We try and say, this is because of your diagnosis. When there are millions of people out there suffering similarly or sometimes even more acutely, who don't behave in these aberrant ways. That's what Mike Ryan used to say when I was talking about all the Antonio Brown malfeasance. And I'm like, how is that not something that's happening that seems to be brain issues?

And Mike was saying, well, no, there are plenty of people, nevermind brain issues, there are plenty of people who have any assortment of depressive tendencies or otherwise who aren't behaving in sports or anywhere else like Antonio Brown and it is different if you're in the spotlight if you're in sports they're they're exacerbating factors so I'm not suggesting it's not a contributor I suppose my thing here is I don't want people to think that they do that thing where they think because of It's because of the diagnosis that this person behaves in these reprehensible ways that is a contributing factor

But there are other factors and some of them are totally within the control of the individual It isn't just that oh how unfortunate your brain chemistry was was effed up when you were born and now you're in this tough position It's you also made some terrible choices. And you're now doing things purposefully. And relying on the fact that we're going to let things slide because of your diagnosis. And I don't think we should. We work in in companies sometimes where people say things like, well, you know, the reason that we've got so many bullies in our environment is

because, you know, these really clever people are on the spectrum, they'll say. And what an incredible disservice to people who might have ASD, autism spectrum disorder, to imagine that because you have this, you're a terrible person who's awful to other people. No, these people are assholes who have ASD. That is not the same thing. Dan, this is like the old, and bear with me, I know the messenger isn't the best, but it's like the old Bill Cosby stand up,

where he says, so what are you laughing at? No, it's just, my face was showing, and your name was showing underneath it. Oh, that's a preview. It's a preview. It's a preview. So, the old Bill Cosby stand up, he says, the guy tells him, hey, have cocaine,

and he's like, what does cocaine do? He says, well, it intensifies your personality. And Cosby says, well, what if you're an asshole? Right, and it's the same thing. It's like, your personality is your personality. And then what you're afflicted with influences some of that, but at the end of the day, it brings it out.

The other thing is, and John, I wonder if you see this a lot, where people Because they're either on the spectrum or just self-diagnosing they take it as license To be an asshole. It's not just you're an asshole. It's like oh no, it's because of this I can act any way I want yeah I've spoken to some teachers actually in in schools universities and high schools in the states and in Europe, and they are dealing with kids who have either self-diagnosed or been told by their parents they have a certain disorder, and therefore, them being rude in class

or speaking out when they shouldn't be or not participating is somehow, like they have license to do it now. I think it's really problematic. It's why the advice for psychologists is that we don't diagnose from a distance. It's really problematic. It's why it's why you know the advice for psychologists is that we don't Diagnose from a distance. It's really tempting because you see these Constellations of behaviors and you think I've recognized this I've seen this before But I just think agency you're gonna give people a chance to say what part are you playing in this before we?

Kind of throw away everything else and say yeah, it's not your fault I love this show because this is a great segment on mental health. This is a photo of my friend, College Mike's abs. He doesn't work out really at all. He drinks a lot of beer. He's a great hang, but look, you see that? Let's get rid of that lower third right there.

Let's see these abs pop there. This guy's just gifted. He has an ab. No, no, no, that's six. He has a pair of abs. I counted six. Maybe it's the lighting in there, but Dan, you can see. This guy has abs and. He has an AB. No, no, no. That's six. He has a pair of abs. I counted six. Maybe it's the lighting in there, but Dan, you can see. This guy has abs and he doesn't really care about

taking care of his body. This is what you can tell the straight guy standards are entirely different. Really? Yeah. I mean, there's the definition. Dan, your thoughts. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at LeBittard Show.

Can you be someone who has an eight pack with no exercise whatsoever drinking beer like Mike's friend? I thought you were gonna ask, the put on the poll, does College Mike have abs? Because he does not. And also that. We all have abs. Yes, mine are covered, but he has a pair of abs

that are exposed. No, I counted six. I also counted two. Chris, were you laughing? I saw you laughing during that segment. I think you and I were laughing at the same thing. I'm not totally sure. But you can hear that Amin's lip is fat. Yes, it sounds ridiculous.

All of his analysis, I want him to give the most serious analysis, but also I want him to go viral with that sound on audio that makes it seem like his heavy tongue is slathered on every word he's speaking. Ridiculous. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week. So what are you doing for it? I imagine you're gonna have some family over. How do you entertain the family?

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