The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Nick Saban Rehabilitation Program (feat. a very young Anna Paquin)

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

"She's a lesbian and they do finger cuffs!" Is Lane Kiffin really going to leave Ole Miss? And will he potentially do it BEFORE the Egg Bowl? We're talkin' optics. Plus, Zaslow exhibits the behavior of a sucker as Amin learns he's a complete and total movie fraud. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey friends, Jeremy here. The NBA on Prime is back tomorrow with another great Emirates NBA Cup doubleheader. The night starts with Pascal Seaccom and the Indiana Pacers meeting Donovan Mitchell and the Cleveland Cavaliers. A matchup that if Tyrese Halliburton was healthy, probably would have been a potential Easter conference finals preview. Instead, you got Donovan Mitchell who's averaged at about 30 a game and the Pacers who are struggling, but those games on Prime are always intense. And then it's down to Texas as Nikola Yokic in the Denver Nuggets, as Big Honey plays some of the best basketball of his career,

which is certainly saying something, get their first look at Kevin Durant and the new look, Houston Rockets. If you're not a prime member, that's not a problem. Just sign up for a 30-day free trial to get started today. Pacers, Cavs, Nuggets, and Rockets. Coverage starts tomorrow at 6.30 p.m. Eastern, only on Prime. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com slash Amazon Prime for details. Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by Draft Kings.

Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching band.

to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dan Labit's Art Show is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. I'm not sure I'm prepared for the How to Avoid Injury Show. That was an hour. That was an hour of, do you actually want to talk about this problem? Or do you just want to shout at a mountaintop, dumb, dipshit, rich, spoiled, entitled athlete, play. And yesterday I wanted to shout play.

Because it came to my city. The traveling circus came to my city. and for the second time. Like, I want to see the greatest shooter ever. I want to be able to say that I watched the greatest shooter ever at the end of his career when he was making all these moments. Norman Powell? Yeah, I love Norman Powell. I love watching him play.

That's my dog. I don't know why you're saying that that way. What way? That's how he talks, Dan. The other thing that I wanted to get to since I want to talk about the business of sports today is college football and things changing so fast that. that some of these amateurs, like Steve Sarkesian, and I know he's not an amateur, but he finds himself in a pressure cooker of business

that has Desmond Howard saying, hey, don't be surprised if Sark and Texas part ways. Okay, now, this is wildly interesting to me, Texas and Oklahoma going to the SEC, Big Ten getting involved, and, hey, let's do private hedge fund, $2 billion. The pressure falling on the head, of a man who

left his last job with a drinking problem and I don't want to associate drinking problem with pressures but whatever was happening was making Steve Sarkesian show up with liquor on his breath in the morning when he had the less stressful job than the one he

presently has, which is Texas has all the money, Texas has all the athletes, Texas expects to be good at this, Texas has all of those boosters who help and he has failed so far at Texas. He is one of the many who came through the great pipeline better than the Belichek tree of, how do we rehab, get near Nick Sabin.

Do it, Cristobal, do it, Kiffin, do it, Sarkesian. You know how you rehab? Get next to Sabin and we'll slingshot you to every great job that you want. Amazing rehab jobs if you've been watching the careers of those three people. Cristobal, Kiffin, and Sarkesian, all of them laughed at in previous stops for a variety of different reasons. Cristobal made it back through FIU. That's the hardest way to do it.

Sarkisians in the best job. LSU is not the best job. None of the other jobs are the best job. That's the best job. He's got the best chromosomes at quarterback. That pressure is mighty. Desmond Howard saying, don't know if they're going to part ways or not.

I want to ask you guys, the Sabin rehab path. Is it better than the Belichick tree? Who are you asking him? Meena or Zaz? All of you. Oh, thank you. How do we,

what do we do with the fact that Nick Sabin is from the Belichek tree? Is he from the Belmont? Yeah, he was his D.C. in Cleveland. No, like, I know, but I don't know. Bell's your own shit back. Can I ask why Cristobal doing the FIU is harder than Lane Kiffin doing an FAU? Equally hard? I don't understand all Chris Ball needed career rehab.

I don't know how he's lumped in. There were real problems with Lane, real problems with Sark. It's actually kind of similar. No, the career rehab that Christabal needed was failure. That's all it was. It was Oregon failure, and it's how do you get... No, no, your timelines are all wrong. Like, he went to FIU, then he was supposed to be in Miami,

met Al Golden said this guy would kill my career, took a lesser job over at Alabama, got himself on Willie Taggart's staff at Oregon, became head coach when Willie Taggart went to FSU, left Oregon for Miami. Why did Al Golden feel that way? No, no, no, Chris Able felt that way about... Oh, oh, sorry, okay.

Who's on first? Regardless, being next to Nick Sabin will catapult you into the sky the same way that being next to Belichick once did for an assortment of people who didn't do much with it except for Saban. Save for Saban. Is there a second? Who's second? Is it Matt Patricia making his way back through D-Cordinator

at Ohio State? I'm dead serious. Rebel? Oh, it is? Yes. I guess that Belichick. That's a player. I mean, came up through the staff. Yeah, I don't think that counts. He didn't coach them. I don't know if did. The guys who got chances were Charlie Weiss and Matt Patricia and

McDaniels. I know. And Romeo Cronel, Cronel might have been the most successful of him. Bill O'Brien, maybe. He's had some success. Bill O'Brien, not really. No? He was with the Texans for a long time. Yeah, a little bit of a success.

And history looks back on his time of what he dealt with at Penn State as a success, and he parlayed that into the pro job. He's doing a really good job, BC. Do you have a... What's up, Trevor? Do you happen to know anything? Get that sound for me, please, Chris. You can't play it enough.

Bill O'Brien being angry and then chummy in a way, that all of us understood the language of that. Mike, do you have any information on what's going on with Sark at Texas? Not just opinions, but information. Well, that Diana report came out that Sark would be interested in potentially the Titans job, and the timing on that was bad for Sark. They haven't been performing well. Went over like a lead balloon. Jackton was sources, and that's a real thing. It's a real possibility, what Desmond said, that there might be a mutual parting of ways, which is why you heard that report of Sark to the NFL in the first place, which if Amlay and Kiffin doesn't seem like he's going to have much pause, right now, all the

momentum says that he's got to go to Florida potentially this week, and who knows what that does to Ole Miss's chances. What are Ole Miss players doing? Ole Miss players now know that their coach is gone, right? Key Juan Lacey, like, he's all over the place. If you follow him on social media, he was retweeting like, he's like, right now if you go to his timeline. It's positive Lane stuff, but before it's like, Lane's quitting on

these guys. Like, it's all over the place. I wish I could see his time. But you're still pushing crypto. Right now there's, there's rumor and innuendo that Lane might actually take this job and not just take this job

but Ole Miss might be dumb with him if he does take that job and it's been handicapped by some people that are in the know. I'm not one of the people that's in the know. I've heard from people in know. Like, they're saying he might not coach this Egg Bowl if he takes this job, if it continues to unfold the way that it is, which is pretty shocking because Ole Miss, by the very nature of being in this college football playoff and all the talent being dispersed amongst all

these teams, they have a shot at a national title. That's forever shit. Has almost ever been in this current position they're in right now? I don't think so. I don't think so. They had a, well, last year, and for whatever reason this loss didn't stick to lane the way that even Syracuse stuck to all the interceptions right in the swamp against a teen that was fighting for Billy Napier but not a good Florida team and Ole Miss in terms of resources you look at that roster last year they were absolutely loaded but there's a managing of expectations when it comes to Ole Miss that it wasn't looked at as this huge failure the way that it probably should have said so the greatest programs in Ole Miss history are the most interesting programs in Ole Miss history do I have the graduates right it's Fav and Manning are the greatest teams, no?

Farrv went to seven minutes. Okay, so it's just Manning. So it's just Manning. Eli and Art, the senior Arch Manning. Okay, so in the history of Mississippi football, they for one year went in and got on the Chemdice brothers and somehow bought the number one recruit in America. But this part is interesting to me if you're someone who cares about college football

and the business of college football and how these coaches get rehab. because if all of these guys bear, all of these people in coaching, if you just strip it all down to what's the point of what we're doing around here, is it to race young men or is it to get the best job so that I can have the most power? Lane Kiffin being such a mercenary at this point that he would be like, I'll try to win the championship whatever year, wherever I am. Just get me the best job right now that gets me to the next thing. I don't actually care about these players, this program, this city. or winning, really. I'll win wherever I go. Just get me the best position so that I can coach for the next 10 years. All of this is really unfortunate and it sucks that the timeline times out that you have to kind of feel this position if you're Florida to get momentum in recruiting because it's all about getting the guys, right? But Ole Miss is so good that it effectively

nukes their season. Remember how Lane Kiffin, when he was younger. And I was looking back at some of these photos because I wanted to see images of mattresses burning. And it took me to this rabbit hole of Lane Kiffin looking like the weight of the world is on his shoulders as he's about to tell Tennessee he's leaving he looks so young it went I don't know if you guys remember 20 years ago but it was so poorly received and everyone's like this immature idiot like you can't leave Tennessee in this fashion why are you leaving Tennessee in the first place he left the USC and it doesn't go his way for 20 years later after he's done so much to reshape his image, going through the Nick Sabin rehabilitation program after getting fired on the

tarmac for the job from the job that he left Tennessee for. For him to, for the optics to be, he is leaving a playoff team, a team that has a shot at a national title in the right before that opportunity presents itself. Hold on. You don't want them to repeat the same history just because you want to see the growth in Lane Kiffin just for the optics. No, okay. All right. But answer my question on what's real. here versus perception. It's really real. Florida people feel like they have their next coach. Okay, but not optics on let's strip down professional football to its barest greed. Lane Kiffin gets to Nick Saban rehab and Nick's telling him all the time, hey, Lane, cap this way, not

backward cap. And he's like, really? Is that what we're doing here? Coach, really? We got all the best players. Every time you and I step on the field, we look around and our players are better than everybody's and we know it before every game. Why wouldn't Lane Kiffin believe if he can do it at Mississippi or at FAU? Wait, you're going to get me Florida's players and money? I don't care about the championship this year. I'll win it the next 10 years. I'll build Alabama. I'll build Georgia. I can go to Florida and have all the money and all the players. I'll do it with anybody. Why wouldn't Lane Kiffin think that? I think this timeline that Lane Kiffin is applying and maybe it's coming from Ole Miss. He says there's no such thing as an ultimatum, but I would

understand why Ole Miss would give an ultimatum. Well, that could be semantics too, right? Right. Well, they're trying to win a national title, and they're fully expecting to be in the college football playoff with or without Lane Kiffin, and they want somebody that's completely bought in. Remember, they're the ones being spurned here. I get where they're coming from here.

But if you're Lane Kiffin, this is a contrivance. Really, you could tell Florida wants you so bad. You are so clearly the number one. If you tell them, stay at bay. let me finish this out with Ole Miss. I don't think they're going to hire somebody else. There was reports of a meeting with John Summerall that as soon as they came out, the reports were that meeting was canceled.

Lame Kiffin is the only candidate right now for Florida. Everyone at Florida is so certain lame Kiffin is going there. Why do this? Why adhere to this contrivance? So it leads me to believe that the Ole Miss thing is real. Just from how we're reading it. I laid it all out for you. Why is there this time crunch to get this thing done now? Even though Lane has made this mistake before, mistake because the optics were so bad when he left Tennessee.

Wouldn't the time crunch just be that Florida's got all this money? We've got the better job. We're better than Mississippi. Hey, Lane, get over here. We need you to start this job. I'm thinking that time crunch is coming more from Ole Miss. That's what I think. Because he's got this job. He has it there. It could just be not an ultimatum. It could just be them saying, hey, can you tell us? I understand why Lane's doing it. Lane is the hottest name at the greatest time to be a hot name in the history of the sport.

And he's looking at that place like I've come through personal demons. I've come through what was a terrible experience in Tennessee. I went through Al Davis. This is the job for me. This is where I want to be. I can understand why the temptation is such that he's going to take this job. But, man, I just wish all the parties would understand. But that's hard to explain to Ole Miss when he's leaving you for a team that right now is a joke.

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You look to me right in the eye. Panthers are going to take that ass, man. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. What you're doing here that to me is most interesting, Mississippi has always been a doormat afterthought as a place, just regional identity on we're last at everything. Poverty standards, the worst things, all happen in Mississippi. For Lane to come in here and play with the emotions of that,

with the most mercenary of things of, I don't care about your Brown Lake, I can win anywhere. And I'd really rather do it near the blue martini. Because it was fun to do it at FAU. and I love the sunshine, and my family loves the sunshine of Florida. They just announced a blue martini and Fort Lauderdale's closing. They couldn't withstand Lane leaving both. They're moving it to Gainesville.

Yeah, and... The insult, the regional insult. Lane hasn't helped his case either because he's, like, retweeting things like DJ Lagway is possibly sitting. This is who you married. Yeah, and like, that's part of... You're asking Lane to be like, oh, Elaine, I know you love trolls. It's like asking Gilbert Arenas, hey, Gilbert, could you be a little bit more kind of like demure right here? Like, no, man, this is who he is.

If anything, the discomfort that Ole Miss feels is fueling Lane Given. That's why he goes on McAfee, and he does this whole yoga and all this stuff. But he's leaving you, and he's cutthroat mercenary, get a tan, has grown through the business parts of this, fired on the tarmac at USC, has the scars of, yes, I'm doing this as stepping stones. You don't think me an educator, do you? Like, you don't even expect me to learn from burning mattresses. I kind of like leaving burning mattresses in my weight. Dan, take it a step further.

It's like that's kind of the positive, the silver lining on that. The dark cloud is, man, none of these jobs give a shit about any of us. Now I'm supposed to be, oh, Ole Miss's feelings. Like he doesn't care because he's been, as you said, generationally been through this, seen it. As the head coach of that team, look, I'm sorry to do this to you, Ole Miss. I really am. I loved when my father would call you Ole Miss anytime they put it in the teleprompter. But Lane Kiffin was always using you as a renter.

Like if the business of this sport is a bit of a brothel, like this relationship was never real with you. Doesn't almost know that the minute they hired him? They knew that the minute that they hired him. And I understand why they're hurt, though, because the dynamics change. Well, and because they're on the cusp of a playoff. Yeah, and that's where the dynamics changed a little bit. I understand why Lane is doing this. It's not different than when Mario Cristobal in Oregon was a better job than Ole Miss ever was.

Mario Cristobal left a team that was, I think, playing in the Pac-12 championship game at the time because his dream job came available. And for Lane Kiffin, he took your program to heights you never thought possible. Like, he is more responsible for your success than any coach in the history of your program, I would think. So maybe there's a bit of understanding, but that's hard to separate that emotion. When you're put you're, you have a good shot of winning a national title because the talent is so evenly distributed. Zaz, I know you're a suck who doesn't watch a whole lot of movies, but this used to be a big trope in the 90s. The falling in love wasn't part of the plan, right?

That's what I have an old mess. It's like they knew it was a business relationship and then and then they fell in love and I thought it was real. And then Lane Kippen kind of like put out a cigarette and left some cash on the bed and said, hey, you knew what this was when we started. No, this part, the part that's crushing is him so wildly reaching past expectations. This whole thing, Lane Kiff and his boy genius is wildly interesting because we've seen him climb through the very smallest crevices that South Florida rehab has. He made FAU a bold team with really tiny players. And when you give him the big ones, he's pretty good.

He's learned a lot in the last 15 years. The Florida job is a great one, but he will never be hotter than he is right now because he's interesting. This is the wild west of business. He's perfectly equipped having learned business at 30s from the Davises who will give all the power to Tom Brady to please help me, boy, genius. Please teach me football things. And the presumption is his schick flies at Florida better than anywhere else because even though they had success with Urban Meyer, that is a spurrier town. He loves Spurrier, Kiffin.

Oh, but the whole thing, this carefree, perfect. walking into that city, it's wonderful, but Mississippi's betrayal here because it's, you're sitting here talking about the coldness of the relationship. This regional identity, what do you mean we can be this close to being the best, and you can do it with Trinidad Chambliss? Like, what do you mean we can come close? Mississippi knows that they have a team that can beat anybody. That's crazy.

even because Mississippi's that good. It's because everyone else is kind of Mississippi. Like, Zazzo, you can speak to what's happening at the top of the sport where Louisville looks good one week and then doesn't look another week. Lane Kiffin has built something that is good enough to beat anybody. And Mississippi never gets to be that. No, it's a crapshoot. And Ole Miss right now would have a home game to start out the playoffs.

Like, they have a home game and then they'd be two wins away from playing for the national championship. Also the inferiority complex, right? Ole Miss is sitting here saying, well, what's so good about them? We're pretty good, too. Look at it. And it's like, no, you're not. Boy, and you look at Florida who has three wins right now.

But imagine that, like being told, you're hot. But that's Florida. I'll tell you know what's bullshit, man? You're saying that I'm not a good movie guy. You're not. So many foundational fundamental movies that you haven't watched. Why, can I haven't seen Dodgeball? That's crazy, by the way.

I'll watch it on the plane today. Who cares? You never seen Dodgeball? I'm a great movie guy. A great movie guy? A great movie guy? I'm a great movie guy. You haven't seen any.

I've seen James Bond movies. Oh, whatever, man. I could definitely come up with movies that you haven't seen. Like what? I haven't seen every movie. Name one. Yo, there's too many in a name. Name one.

Name one movie you haven't seen. Name a movie. So you're claiming that anyone can throw a movie of any kind at you and you have seen them all. Of course I've seen human centipede. My point is that Zaz. Maybe not anyone, but Zaz cannot say. I watch a movie that a meet hasn't watched. You haven't watched freaking Dodge Ball.

Okay. You keep coming back to Dodge Ball. James Vaugh! Says, the part that, where he has you here, I think we have three cinefiles in our universe who believe themselves to have watched more film than the rest of you. I believe it's Adnan. I don't know who wins here. Samson probably wins, but Amin might think himself in this company. Amin, Samson, and Adnan really are movie guys, and you're a bit like Cody, where if you haven't seen a couple of fundamental things, you're disqualified.

You're disqualified from being in the conversation. Amin does a weekly podcast that he's seen all your bad movies. When you throw centipede at him, that's nothing to Amin. What are you talking about, man? Paul Blart Mallcop is an episode that came out today. I have to watch that. Guess what? That's the second Paul Bart movie I've watched.

Do you know? I've seen him both. Do you know that Paul Blart in the first six days of DVD sales, they've made $29 million? Six days, $29 million. That's moving units, my friend. I had seconded embarrassment from that movie. the scene where he gets really hammered in the bar I had a major second

I didn't like that scene I couldn't handle it But you are you walking back from the position That you want to do a movie pod with a meme Because you have as much movie knowledge as he does Because he's disrespectful of your lack of movie knowledge It was very disrespectful You threw it out there like it was nothing

I know great I'm a great movie guy We're not first of all then We're not doing a movie pod I can't do a pod with someone who does not know shit About the subject material I'm not doing a movie pod I'm just saying like I felt that way for it would be such a waste of my time I would never do a waste of my time I would I thought this like minutes ago way before you

thought that I would never do a movie pot with you don't ask me you're late you're late have you seen the godfather I got to ask questions like that to this guy you know yo like are you trying to insult me I'm just trying to figure out you're a guy who doesn't watch movies so I don't want to assume things you've seen casino don't ask me questions like I'm a sucker okay you are a godfather casino sorry you you exhibit the behaviors of a sucker. Don't ask me questions that are insulting. You know, Garth Brooks turned down a role in saving Private Ryan because he didn't

want to share the screen with Tom Hanks and Matt Damon. He wanted to be the stars. Spielberg countered that by saying, well, what do you want to be? I want to be a villain. Earlier in the process, he got sent the script to Twister, and he's like, I'm not going to be in this. Why? Because the villain is the Twister.

That's a good point. Did you know that I mean? I knew that. Have you seen Twisters? Have you seen Twisters? Yeah. I like that movie Twist. Zach Glenn Powell, I like him. Okay, this movie pod that I now want to put together, sponsored by Metal Lark, is it all going to be Zaz? Have you seen this?

Because you're really disrespectful of his movie knowledge. I don't respect him at all in the movie space. I have zero respect. I don't respect you in the movie space. I actually thought that a few minutes ago. I thought that before you just said that. Wait a minute. No, you got to respect the mean in the movie space.

I don't. I don't have to. He works at it. Okay. He really pours himself into it. I don't even have to work at it. Dan, why would I respect someone who so clearly disrespects the medium when he hasn't seen such classics like Dodgeball?

I'm a great movie guy. Well, he wants you to come up with another insult other than James Bond and Dodgeball. But I'm willing. I'm willing to. Who's in it? Who's in it? John Chivalta will be sucks. What's the story?

Yo, I don't need to explain the lots of phenomenon to you. Didn't he have a stroke. He's got like a disease, but like a B, he thinks that he's like special, stupid movie, man. I don't need to remember a stupid movie. What's chasing Amy about? Casey Amy's a great movie. That's it about. She's a lesbian, and they do finger cuffs.

You know about the finger cuffs? That's all I need to say. You know about finger cuffs? You watch Collateral? Nah, I've never seen collateral. Oh, that's a great one. I know, I've never seen it, I know. You see Minority Report?

Of course, great movie. Loving a minority report. Have you seen Clifford with Martin Short? Yo, don't ask you stupid questions. It's a good movie. Can we do, you know about that, where you play it with Amin, but Amin plays it with you on the movies?

because I'd be willing to sponsor and fund the podcast of Amin asking you whether you've seen movies and then getting mad that you haven't seen very basic movies. Because I do believe if we keep doing this, that Amin will put in front of you 150 movies that he will have expected you to see and then would not respect your movie opinion because you hadn't seen those movies. I think Amin's going to be right here that there are many things that you haven't seen because Amin has committed himself over the last 10 years so much to watching so many shitty movies. I mean, that sounds like a waste of time that Amin needs to actually commit so much of his time to become a movie expert.

This exercise is going to earn my respect of Amin. That's what this exercise is going to be. Not the other way around. Is it? No, because it doesn't sound like it can be had because it doesn't sound like you want to hear any of his movie opinions. But I do believe Amin to know a great deal more about movies than most people. I do. You know why?

Because I watch a shit ton of movies. I do too. No, you don't. Yeah, too. No, you don't. Yeah, too. Don Lebertard. John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's way if I do it for you?

I think it's pretty good. Yeah. Stugats. You think you're big time? But you're going to die. Big time! That is my infamous scale of one to ten. That's a, that's a 7.6.

Solid. Good job, Dad. Good job. That's a suing nominee right there. That's really good. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. What did you know about that English patient? I would never watch Englishmen.

It looks boring as hell. I would never watch that. I think of one best picture. I would never. Whatever. Oh, because boring movies never won best picture? Were you crazy? Beautiful mind?

No, I don't want to watch that. It was boring as hell. Who cares? That movie is boring as hell. It was good. Beautiful mind. Ron Howard. What about him?

He directed it. Okay, Russell Crow. Yeah, you won. I think he won. Are we just naming people who are in Beautiful Mind? Is that the exercise now? Jennifer Connolly was nominated. He cares.

Best eyebrows. Jennifer Connolly. I like her. You know about that rocketeer? Although I didn't like the last scene with. her in Reckling for a dream. I didn't like that. You know that there will be blood? What do you know about that? One of the best movies ever. No country for old men?

Yeah, no country for old men's good. Citizen Kane? I don't believe him on that one. Apocalypse. You don't believe in no cultural man? Ask me something. What's the weapon of choice? Ask me about sugar. Yeah, what's a what's a weapon? He's got the thing that pops out. It's not a name. There's not a name for that thing. There's not a name. There's not a name. There's not a name. There's not a name. There's not a name. There's not a name. a name. He made it like in his garage. It's a cattle thing. It should have a name. What is that thing?

One of the scariest weapons in the history of the movies. What do you know about that pianist? Yeah, I know about it. Agent Brody. Very young. Very young and a packwood. I think that was the piano. The very young Anna Paco was the piano, not the pianist.

We caught your ass. You don't know about that pianist. I used to do you or do you not know about that penis? It was a piano. Do you or do you not? Admission coming. Admission coming. I lied about the penis.

That was a lie. How many other lines are in there? I used to think Mina Combs was the biggest fraud when it came to movies because you know if you asked Mina about a movie, she said yes, but she's just read the Wikipedia. She's never actually watched it. This guy hasn't even taken a step of reading the Wikipedia. That's right, because I don't need to fake it.

Adventures of Pluto and Ash? No, I would never watch that. Who cares? Norbit? I would never watch it. Why is my movie, why does my movie credibility come from? You have to see as many awful movies as possible. Thousand words?

I never even heard of that. Soul Man? No, I don't want to watch Soul Man. Why not? You're an ally? White Man's Burden? Yeah, I've seen that. Who's in it?

Who's in it? Samuel Jackson. No. No. What was that? Black Snake Moan. Oh, yeah. I never see that.

Harry Belafonte? I don't like that. Harry Palapande, yes. Dale. You made that reference. Yo, you know about that Beetlejuice? Of course. Beetlejuice, too?

I haven't seen Beelages yet. Fraud. Whatever, man. Living my life here. I don't have time to see everything. Well, it can't be, though. Look, he just called you a fraud and can't be whatever, man. I've got to live my life.

I don't care about movies the way you do. He's testing. That's my point. But to say I'm not a good movie guy. I'm not a lot. Very young and a pack one. He's. Testing.

I lied about that one. How many others did you lie about that? Am I ashamed or embarrassed about that? Maybe both. Embarrassed. Not shame. Dan? You know who's a movie guy?

Roy's a movie guy. You know what's a movie guy? Mike's a movie guy. You know what's a movie guy? Jeremy's a movie guy. And musical theater. You know who else is a movie guy? Chris is a movie guy.

You know who else is a movie guy? Dan is a movie guy. You know who's not a movie guy? you seen Rambo you know I haven't seen Rambo have you ever seen I'm gonna get you sucker no well it's about you and they got you

I'd listen to that pod just asking Zaslow do you have you seen this yes I've seen this good movie and that's his analysis or not a good movie or he's just lying about having seen the movie we gotta hit him up

there's got to be a limited number of follow-ups can't just have follow-ups until the end of the day but we've got to have a limited number of follows just to try to determine whether he's actually seen the movie or not. I would say, though, Zazlo, like, this was interesting. I would say that what he's just done to you is he has made Dodgeball a movie that if you have not seen it, it disqualifies you from giving movie opinion.

Why? Why is that the movie, Dodgeball? Who cares? But I think that's what happened. Am I wrong about this? I didn't think you had this strong opinion about Zaslo until that happened. You know what? It's the crown, all of it. It started with he's never seen Rambo, which I was like, oh, but it's an older movie. Okay, it checks out, right? Then it turned into having seen the James Bond movies. Well, okay, and some of them were old, but some of them were pretty new and were big deals. I'd like to see the James Ball. But then when they hit Dodgeball, because Dan, there is a very, me and Zazzo, not that far apart in age. There's a very seminal era of movies, wedding crashers, old school, hangover, dodgeball. Like, all those movies came out and around the same time, they featured what they called the Brat Pack.

Like, that's what they call them. They call them the Brad Pack. Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson and Ben Stiller and all these guys. I think it was a different name, like the Slack Pack or something like that. Brat Pack was the 80s. Oh, yeah, some shit like that. Thank you, Roy. And a very young Anna Pack went.

And a very young Anna Foy. But the point is, for him to just have like a blind spot to this strong decade of just bang or bang or bang of movies, I know I can't respect him as a movie person. I can respect him in other ways. As a soda drinker, I respect them, but like not as a movie person, no. I'm sorry that we've arrived there. The Reaper has been angry for a while. I've thrown a lot of requests at video today.

I will get to that in a second. And I've thrown a lot at Chris Cody today who has tuned out most of the show, but did find Bill O'Brien an hour later trying to go after Trevor and others because this is audio worth replaying. Coach, I'm wondering, do you be a message to the fans. obviously losing to Notre Dame Catholic school rival, one and eight down in the Cs of the BC. I've heard from a lot of things.

I just really, yeah, I'm really glad. You know, I'm glad you're down. I'm not down, nobody's down. We're fighting, we're competing. You know, it's the second year of this program, Mike. You always come in here with these down questions. Like you show up like once a month or something like that. You come in here with these down questions.

I'm not down. I don't know what year you graduated from BC, but this is a program that we're building. Nobody hears down. We're positive. we're going to show up and play our asses off against SMU. You can go out there in your dark, clouded world or whatever it is and do what you want to do.

We're not down. The sun is up and we're fighting. That's my message to the fans. What's up, Trevor? Thank you. I mean, you know that that can happen in any media environment where the coach will absolutely go after the guy with dismissive condescension who's only there once a month.

The guy, Trevor's there every day. What's up, Trevor? Trevor. Trevor is not once a month. Trevor's not once every two weeks. What's up, Trevor? Trevor's earned Bill O'Brien's love and respect. Here's the guy who's here all the time.

Trevor shows up every day to watch shitty BC football. What's up, Trevor? What do you think the look on Trevor's face was? Did he look at Mike up? Yes, yes, that's right. Mike, you show up downer, Mike. You show up once a month. You get out of your news van, and instead of a microphone,

you've got a brush. What's up, Trevor? You're not here once. You're not here. twice a day listening to shitty bill bill o'brien press conferences 100% this is like the local news guy where the local news shows up only when things are a disaster at whatever program yeah this is well no like go over to the heat manso's around that's there every game i'm some random third reporter from from yeah jim barry would be the perfect example actually who's right cody he's not leaving

the studio what's up ira's showing up but yep what's up ira what's up anthony ching what's up tim Reynolds? Spobie and like Greg Coe, you show up for the first playoff. You show up for opening night in the first playoff game. That's it. Look, I, I thank you for producing this little wonderful sound from Bill O'Brien that is absolutely a different language that the old ball coach has with who's showing up for my shitty shoot around and listening to what I have to say after that. I assure you it's Trevor. Trevor's there every day listening to shitty Bill O'Brien press conference. What's up, Trevor?

Trevor, Bill O'Brien, later in life, Bill O'Brien will have Trevor's phone number and they will have a beer somewhere. Or three. What's up, Trevor? Does Trevor leave an apple on the podium every morning before the press conference? He's a hero, Trevor.

What's up, Trevor? Bill O'Brien feels bad for Trevor. That's what it is. If you're here in the trenches with us, watching these shitty practices where I know you don't want to be here, we don't want you here, we're going through this song and dance

of all these questions. What's up, Trevor? What's up, Trevor? He's like Bill Belichick at that cheerleading competition. What's up, Trevor? What's up, Barry Jackson? Bill O'Brien. I don't want to do that yet.

What's up, Trevor? I want to stay on Bill O'Brien. What's up, Trevor? And Bill O'Brien is going to work every day, and this is what Bill O'Brien's saying. What's up, Trevor? No. I was standing next to Belichick. I was at the top of this mountain.

Now I'm at B.C. football. Look how they're talking about. Lane. He was a clown when I was a champion. But now look how they talk about Lane. I'm trying to make the way back and it's not the easy way. It's not through that Sabin rehab program. It's through the Catholics. What's up, Trevor? The shitty Catholic school that'll never win anything. I was, I was James Franklin. I was James Franklin. What's up, Trevor? Does Boston College have to kick up to the Vatican? Less so. Pennies. What's up, Trevor? This poor Reaper's been waiting for 20 minutes.

I got shorter. Ground to dust by the last 20 minutes of waiting for this show. It's the bucket, and it's presented by Dentech's ultimate fantasy football punishment. Learn more and sign your league up at Dentec.com. The Dentech bucket is every week. I have the golden helmet of life. No one is happy for me. Jeremy's going to go first.

We are thankful to Dentech as a sponsor, and I am especially thankful to Dentec because it got rid of headaches because of my jaw. Put your mouthpiece in if you want to talk. Sorry. I have the Seattle Seahawks Dan has told me over and over again It's great they're at the Tennessee Titans I am keeping that back That's an odd American win

Minus they're favored by 13 and a half points On the road You sure ain't a pack one wasn't in the pianist Shoes and piano Frog What's up Trevor The Seahawks are seven and three And the best team in the sport

Wyoming Dolphins Bywin Oh wow Best time to have Oh, good time. Nobody's happy for you. Your nipple dance is not embraced by anybody. What's up, Trevor?

Your shoulder shaking is not celebrated by anyone. What's up, Trevor? I like to run it. I have the Colts. The Colts are at the Chief. At Arrowhead. Waterloo game. So, I mean, help me with this because I wanted, Nick Wright,

I wanted to make a bet on this game, but he's too shook. So before the end of the show today, help me figure out what the chief Colts bet needs to be so that you have some consequences on keeping that helmet. Well, first of all, I need to find out, have you seen Eracer? What movie? Eracer.

I can't understand it. Eracer. Eraser. We're on a Schwarzenegger. Eraser? Yeah. Not so William. With Schwarzenegger, right?

A racer? I love how he said it's the best for last. Have you seen all the Schwarzenegger movies? How many percenteds are... No, you've said, of course, but have you seen Eraser? You ever seen Escape Room? Escape plan, you frog Right, escape plan

A Schwarzening Get wrong, get out of here I'm putting his back by the way Sucker like me Putting the Colts back You're a sucker What's up Trevor You're a sucker

You're a sucker You're putting a Three and a half point favorite Oh, they're underdogs Lions Lions You got the Giants at home Oh yeah baby

Put that back The Colts are three and a half They're three point dogs At the Chiefs Yeah the Chiefs are favorite At home Three and a half by three and a half points.

You can't flip back a second pull, you suck a little. The Giants, I think he had. The Giants or the lions? Is it lions or giants? Lions. Lions. Oh, my.

Roy, what do you got? Jets. Hey, new quarterback. At Baltimore. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. 13 and a half point dog at Baltimore. The Rams. Oh, you got a baker.

Yeah, they're at home a six and a half point favorite. That's a big favorite. I mean, this buck's schedule sucks I hate it Is that who's he an inception? Of course, great movie I got the Falcons At New Orleans

That's Kirk Cousins Putting that back Why is that in the 4 o'clock window? Wow, playing the Saints You have to put it back I'm scared of the same I got the worst helmet The Titans

I'm a 13 point underdog at home I am having an awful year You still owe two punishments. I've done a bunch of punishments. I still owe two, and I have the Titans. Is that as you seem, remember the Titans? Of course. Last play is so stupid.

That's why I don't like that movie. I'll bet you like that play. This 4 o'clock window is gross. Why is Indianapolis KC. 1 o'clock? I heard the Bears. The Bears are 7 and 3. They are at home, two and a half point favorite against Aaron Rogers with a broken wrist.

Is that as you seen bad news, Bears? Yeah. I'm a keep bears. Yeah, it's a good keep. Of course I've seen by new bears. You seen the remake? You know about that Kelly Lee? You're in a remit?

Yeah, remake's not good. You're just saying that. You ain't seen that? I could tell. No, I saw. It's not good. He's a sucker to talk about. It's not good.

He's a sucker. He's a golden helmet in a life. I believe Zas is a liar and a fraud here. I believe he's hiding a smile behind his mouthpiece because he's been exposed this segment as a person who is not a movie expert. I haven't been exposed. I'm trying not to embarrass him. He's called you a fraud to your face.

He doesn't respect your movie opinions. He has undressed you in front of everybody. Not in the slightest. You seen the full Monty? No. Neither have I. What? You've seen the full Monty?

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