The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Obsession with Microphones

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face

and the habitual liar. This episode is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. So I think Jalen Ramsey might have taken a shot at the dolphins yesterday. So Jalen Ramsey, he's going to play for the Steelers this year, Greg. And Jalen Ramsey speaking at

Pittsburgh Steelers practice yesterday, he actually started speaking positively about the dolphins as far as the way that they honored his trade request and they honored it because they wanted him gone to. I mean, like, from what I understand, the talk of the culture and the locker room and disrespect toward the coach, late to meetings, effort, like, Jalen Ramsey was one of the guys at the top of that list, you know, who they had to get rid of if we're going to change things around here. So, of course, they wanted

to honor the trade request. And Jailen Ramsey said, quote, I do appreciate the dolphins and them working with me. Let's go to a team that's. going to be able to compete. Let's go to a team where there's a lot of respect for the head coach. What do you make of that? That's not a subtle shot. That's a direct shot. My understanding was always that he didn't get along with Vic Fangio, the defensive coordinator, who they got of. Well, they were not quiet about that. Right. Yeah. And so that was a thing. You know, I mean, Mike McDaniel is an offense-minded coach. I don't know that he dealt all that much with the defense. But yeah, that's a clear shot. That's a clear shot. And Mike McDaniel has to earn back that

respect, you know, because his teams have had issues in terms of leadership, in terms of, you know, culture, quote-unquote. Whenever players start talking about, we need a better culture, you know, that's pretty corrosive. You know, that can be, that can mean a lot of different things. It can mean Tyreek Hill at the end of last season saying, I'm not going back in this game. And then, you know, asking hinting that he wants out and then backtracking on that. This is not just any player doing this. This is arguably your best player and a captain, a captain of the team. So when one of your captains is the one creating problems, that erodes culture.

And all of that falls back on the head coach. I'm not going to disagree with what you said. But I wonder if it's also worth pointing out that Jalen Ramsey, for his career, has been the league, what, nine years? For his career, he has been one of the best, if not at times the best cornerback in the national football. It's a premier position. It's one of the four most important positions in the game cover corner. And nine years in the league, he is about to start playing for his fourth team. I think it's worth mentioning, you know, we could talk about Mike McDaniel, you know,

let's go to a team that has a coach that, you know, everyone respects. But at the same time, not many guys are as good at their job, an important job, as Jalen Ramsey, and they're about to play for their fourth team when they've been in the league nine years. Well, plus Jalen Ramsey is an aging player at a position where you tend not to age very well. You know, cornerbacks and running backs are usually the first two positions you think of there. My problem is not that they traded Jalen Ramsey. The problem is they didn't replace him. The problem is between trading him and injuries, they have the weakest cornerback

league or meeting room in the entire league. And that's a problem. They think that, look, Minka Fitzpatrick is going to upgrade that secondary. And by the way, Jalen Ramsey, if he was still on this team, may have been converted to secondary here as well. Like, he's going to play in the secondary for Pittsburgh most likely, or at least a hybrid role, all right, which is funny because that's essentially what Minka Fitzpatrick, why he wanted out of Miami initially.

Right. It's funny that you've got to get Jailen Ramsey out here. We've got to fix a culture. Let's bring in Minka Fitzpatrick, who also had terrible things to say about the franchise and the head coach at the time. Well, but specifically, well, specifically, there you go. Specifically, Brian Flores, who, I don't know, I think at this point, Minka may have been right about Flores. I've seen that Minnesota defense, though?

They're rocking and roll. Hey, some guys, some coaches are meant to be coordinators, great offensive coordinator, great defensive coordinator. How about Spagnolo? Like, amazing defensive coordinator was a shit head coach. Like, Brian Flores may be that guy as well. Yeah, but when you're winning, nobody says a word, okay? all of this is coming out after an eight and nine season where you didn't even make the playoffs. Nobody was criticizing Mike McDaniel two years ago or three years ago when he'd made the playoffs twice in a row

when he was this offensive wonderkin. When you lose, people are looking for excuses. They're chirping. They're frustrated. And this is what happens. I would actually cite Brian Flores, though, as an example of, remember, that Dolphin team, you had the big Ryan Fitzpatrick and improbable comeback against the Raiders. That team was in playoff contention.

It was right there for them. were doing a fair amount of winning. And it was well known that the team didn't get along with the head coach. There was a lot of drama around that team that was one of the better teams when you compare it to what they had done previously. So, I mean, it can get that bad. You can manage that locker room so poorly that it still becomes a storyline despite success. When you mentioned Ryan Fitzpatrick, can I just bring it up real quick? Because it always reminds me the first time I hear Ryan Fitzpatrick's name in a really long time. Remember that passie threw for the dolphins in that game with the big comeback, where they caught, they hit face mask

and they ripped the helmet so his eyes were like in the earhole and he couldn't see. And it was a bomb that he threw, which was caught like to the sideline by the way. Yeah, it was an incredible throw. Insane. It's like the best pass ever. Right. And you kept thinking like, man, why doesn't Flores back up to it? But like Tua would get pulled from these games. Ryan Fitzpatrick would come in as a closing quarterback and just justify the decision, which made evaluating to a very difficult. We also thought his head got ripped off that play. Like when his head, because remember, they moved the helmet sideways, and I was like, oh my God, his neck is now stuck like this, and now he can't play quarterback.

So we wouldn't have been sure if Darren Waller was retired or not retired if we mentioned him right when the Dolphins had signed him. Do we have a little game we could play here, Jeremy, of retired or not retired? Yes, we've compiled the list, and there's the theme music. So, we have six players on this list. I'll go one at a time, and you guys determine, retired or not retired. So first, I think I get it. Defensive back, Patrick Peterson, retired or not retired.

This game is going to be very difficult. Patrick Peterson. I feel like I remember a recent message sent, like an announcement. He's retired. I'm going retired. Where do you play last? I would have said not retired. Was he at Pittsburgh last?

Wasn't he Arizona? Maybe Arizona. Did he close things with Arizona? That's a different game we're playing. Well, I mean, I was going to say still active, but there are people in this room that are pretty sure about this. So I'm also going to say retired. I'm pretty sure, like, within the last two weeks, he retired. Congratulations, he is retired.

And he was indeed a Pittsburgh Steeler most recently. Thank you for you for your service. Next up, kicker, Matt Prater. Wow. Still playing. Former UCF Knight, Matt Prater. He's still playing. Guy will kick till he's 50.

Yeah, he has a boot. That's a special way. Arizona, right? I say active. Retired. Oh, we just could do that. Any player we don't have his playing or not, we say he was in Arizona. He was in Arizona.

He was at some point. Yeah, they all were. He remains in Arizona. He is an active kicker in the NFL. at age 41. I'm good at this game. Yeah, we're going to wear that boot out. Next up, Mercedes-Lewis.

Retired or not retired? Tired end. Best blocking tight-end may be in NFL history. I could have had a great career as a lineman. He is like 41 years old. I know we're combining two games here, but last play for the Giants. I like this game. I think he was a bear?

I think he was in Arizona. I say retired. I'm going, 41. If you didn't say the 41, I would say he's still active. So I think that's a dig-away. So I'm going to go retired. I'm going to go. Prater's 41, though, he's still active.

Kicker. Kicker, hear that. Mercedes-Louis can block. He's dead. I'm going to say unretired. I'm going to take a chance with this one. Mercedes Lewis is a free agent and active. Okay.

Looking for another opportunity. All right. So that one's tricky, right? Golfans, pay attention. That's active. And where was he last? 36-year-old wide receiver, Julio Jones. He's retired.

Retired? Not retired. Retired. Retired. He has to be retired. He's retired. He played for the Tennessee Titans last, right? Oh, he's got to be retired.

Different game. Yeah. Mercedes-Lewis last year played 17 games for the Chicago Bears. Of course he did. Well, about that. He appeared in every game at 40 years old. That's what it says. You're 17 games.

Well, yeah, he had to help the offense of line. One catch for two yards. Wow. Not Dan's favorite new comedian who he's very upset that the Daily Show made him wear a suit. But quarterback, John. Josh Johnson. Oh, he's always playing. Retired or not retired?

Julio was retired, right? Julio was retired, yes. I think I saw a blurb. Josh Johnson's still playing. He's always playing. He'll back up until he's 40. I think he was brought in as a camp arm. I'm going to say camp arm for Josh Johnson.

I'm going active. He seems like a guy who's always ready to jump off the couch and play if needed. He's got to be old. He's like in a Tanna Hill situation, right? He's like 39 years old. That's what I'm saying. Three agent, not retired. 39 years.

He's like the third stringy quarterback in like the 40. Young 39. Camp arm knows all the offenses. Unretired. He is a Washington commander. Yeah. Oh. Wow.

And finally, defensive tackle at 38 years old. And Domen Sioux, retired or not retired? South Beach Sessions. Yeah, he just retired. He just retired. Wait a just trying to make sure you guys all are paying attention to what we do. And Domencansu, retired. South Beach says.

Wonderful. Good job. Who did he play for last? Yeah. A different game. Wonderful job. Is you in Philly? The Dan Libitur show with Stugats is sponsored by Liquid Ivy.

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Paint the scene. The paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. So we talked a little bit about this yesterday because two days ago, the AP poll made its preseason debut. That week one is a banger of games. We got three games of top ten matches.

You got LSU Clemson. You got Miami Notre Dame. You got Ohio State and Texas. I'll be there. I'll be there for that. Ohio State in Texas. The AP screwed it up. You couldn't have one versus two.

It's one versus three. When number three is favored against number one, makes sense of that. Anyway, we got preseason rankings came out a couple days ago, and we talked about it yesterday. But we didn't get a whole lot into the Cains, though. The Cains are preseason top 10. Greg, expectation for the Hurricanes right now. Real high. I mean, playoff high for sure.

I think that's what needs to happen. Mario might not admit it, but I think he feels it and believes. that you have to make the top 12 and be in the playoffs. That's the standard for UN this year. They're ranked in the top 10, albeit at 10, for only the second time since 2005. The other was Mark Rick's 2018. And they have everything. They killed it with Carson Beck in the portal.

I think Carson Beck's going to be great for them. I do, too. And their past defense would suck last year is much improved. I think they're the whole deal. I think they have the best team. I think Mario has a great chance. to have an improved record for the fourth straight year. I see them going like 10 and 2, making the ACCC championship game.

Sky-high hopes for the Keynes. I am worried about the wide receiver position. They don't seem to have a go-to guy yet. Carson Beck, from being out of cane, Carson Beck looks good. The arm looks good. I know that that's a concern. Very decisive with the ball. I'm curious.

I really can't make heads or tails of who's going to be the leading receiver here. You have C.J. Daniels, who they brought in as a veteran presence. had an injury plague season last year at LSU, but before that, let the world on fire when he was at Liberty. This may come as a shock. There might be a 17-year-old that may end up being Miami's leading receiver. Well, but they're going to be a more balanced offense. Oh, yes, absolutely.

They've got two guys that have potential to put up huge seasons on the ground. Mark Fletcher, a bigger bruising back has been very productive since the day he put on shoulder pads here for this program. But Jordan Lyle flashes a game-breaking ability. We saw that huge run where he turned the corner. at USF last year where he pulled away from guys. That game-breaking ability is kind of not been around Miami so much. Those guys, Richard Smith took that ability, went to SMU, and now will be a deep sleeper for the Kansas City Chiefs with that next level speed.

But I think Malachi Tony is going to be a real surprise for this team. A true freshman that's going to make an impact there. But the defense has been shored up. You think they certainly brought in a ton of players in that secondary. You have Heatherman, the brand-new DC that comes over from Minnesota. Yes, the schedule is more difficult than previous years. They got Florida. Hold on it. Schedule can be more difficult than previous years.

They're going to be favored every game this year, right? That's curious. We'll see what happens at SMU. But they only have four road games. Yeah. Only four road games. And then late November, it can get tricky at Blacksburg, at Pittsburgh, back to back, but you don't know what kind of condition those programs will be in.

Don't they not leave the state of Florida until, like, November? Yes. Yeah. No, it's crazy. For their centennial season, the schedule, does lay out nicely. Now, they could take a step back in terms of overall record and be a better team. They could finish this season 9 and 3 and be in that playoff contention and so find their way to Charlotte, especially if two of those losses come non-conference. But Miami, it was

I like the vibe around Media Day at the ACC because everyone's just kind of confident that Miami is going to be there in the end, at least in their conference. And the conference has lost a lot of talent this year. I think the ACC is probably going to take a step back while Miami takes a leap forward. But I'm excited about what they did at the quarterback position. I think that got a real good one. And I think it's notable that SMU is there only what I would call difficult road game. All of the other most challenging games are at home. I mean, historically difficult places to play, Blacksburg. And we saw in 2017, before that 2018 year, that got kind of sidetracked by injury and Mark Rick's own decline with his health. Pittsburgh ruined a season for Miami in 2017,

in which they would have been ranked number one headed into the conference championship had they not drop that. I'm at SMU week two. You need a little advanced scouting? A lot of former hurricanes there. Wear that hat, though. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. That makes you undercover. All right. You got to wear that flex-vick backwards and we can sneakie in there on the sidelines, Carter Stallion style. Is the last time that Notre Dame

was here at Miami was the blackout game? 2017. What a game. Was it a blackout? No, the blackout happened actually before that, Virginia Tech. Oh, yeah? Regular game. Which was like a crazy crowd, too. But 2017 Notre Dame, that's really the only game that Miami Hurricanes fans can point to

and say that building had some magic to it. That building got really loud. I think that's the only game at that stadium where you were able to say that game was over before it started. Like, you knew, because this used to be a case of the Orange Bowl all the time. But that night, you knew, okay, we know what's happening. Yeah, right away. Once Will Manceau leaked that video of the Notre Dame coach talking all that crap about the turnover chain. But we were at ESPN at the time very close to Marty Smith and a bunch of people with college game day.

And they said that night at Hard Rock Stadium in 2017. I think Herb Street said, it's like this is the best atmosphere of the year. Second loudest place they had ever been to as a crew. That was back in 2017. Maybe they'd been to louder places. but they said only behind Death Valley and LSU. Could it be like that for week one, number six versus number 10? It has to be. Absolutely.

Notre Dame has some issues, too. They have a legit quarterback competition right now. They lost a quarterback that was a proven commodity for them, and they have some injuries across the offensive line. They're still very talented, but Freeman teams, they get off to a slower start over at Notre Dame. It lays out nicely for Miami, and they'll have an opportunity with a standalone game, certainly Carson Beck and some of the other talented players on this.

team have an opportunity to make a real statement and get a lot of national attention with a standalone TV window Sunday night. And the points for pretty much a close to a push the last time I looked. Should the Virginia Tech game be tough? Like, they haven't won more than eight games in six years. You never know what kind of shape that that program's going to be in. They want to push the head coach out. The fan base is over it.

The head coach may be out, and you don't know, do they play hard for a new guy? In the portal era, do these guys check out? I would say normally most Miami Hurricanes fans would look at late November games at Blacksburg, at Pittsburgh, and be a little worried about that. But the caveat of those coaches perpetually are talked about as guys that could be on the hot seat. Yeah, Brent Pry, three and eight, seven and six, six and seven in his three seasons of Virginia Tech. So while I'm sure there are some, you know, good wins in there at home, it's not given what Miami is supposed to be something that should be much of a challenge. But every year, there's one of those ACC teams that seems to knock off someone. at the top. But all you got to do is look to last year. Could it have gotten closer than last

year's game Miami Virginia Tech? Like that was the closest football game of all time. Yeah. It was like a ball here, a hand here. Was he out of bounds? Was he not? The Hail Mary that went out of bounds. I would say Miami has always had these things and it goes to the pro rinks too. The weather games late in the season. This Miami team is more built for that. My colleague over at Keynes Insight D Money Points too, remember when they went to Boston College played against Cassiano's who's now at FSU. That's a tricky spot. Late at Boston College.

We've seen it with one of the greatest teams of all time struggle there, and they just are built in the trenches and ways for that weather that previous Miami Hurricanes teams have not been. God, how good is college football? We're so close. Football's back, baby. I got my Phil Steel magazine in the mail yesterday. I love that.

I saw it. It's kind of late. You're cramming, huh? This is how I do it. I hit the road in two and a half weeks, all right? And then it's every week I'm on the road with ESPN. So it's time. It's like, all right, I need to start cramming.

Like, that's how I do it. Like, I don't start looking at the magazine last month. Like, it's, now is the time. Things change, too. You got to get most up-to-date information with the magazine. Right, so I got the Phil Steele magazine. That's the college football Bible, all right? I got that in the mail yesterday.

I was very excited, Greg. It's a magazine, though. Wasn't it what you're reading, wasn't that written a month ago? No, he just got it. I mean, it's, yeah. I know, but it was, it takes a while to publish a magazine, right? It has all of the information. It's got the building blocks.

That's what you need. It's got everything you need. There's so much info in there. So I got to start studying. But once in a couple weeks from now, Greg, you're going to be able to ask me out any school in the country. And I will know everything about it. I'm a college football expert. I'm just surprised magazines are still a thing because when I was a kid, Street and Smith was the Bible.

Like I used to get their pro and college preview issues all the time. But I didn't know that that was still a thing in 2020. 25, the magazine. Do you guys, when's the last, like, magazine subscription you guys had or that came to your house? You know what came to my house two days ago? Fortune magazine. And it had my name on it. And I have no idea why it is that that I've never subscribed them.

Did one of those people come to your home and it was like, hey. No, I've never subscribed to it. I mean, maybe this is like some, I signed up for something. You know, like sometimes you buy something. It's like, oh, you get three free magazine subscriptions. I must have checked off something or I went to like, boat show one time years ago or something and what's the last magazine subscription you remember actually subscribing i think the last one i actually had was ESPN the magazine wow yeah and i don't

think that's even published anymore right they canceled that publication yeah long time ago but fortune magazine came to my house two days ago did you read it no not yet it's on you know i you know where i thought about doing with it as soon as i got i was like you know what i'm going to put this in the bathroom yeah and this is going to be bathroom reading because there was a like a glory day of like all the magazines are in the bathroom and you go down. That's where all my steel's down. Yeah, that's where they go. But I don't think they even sell bathroom like magazine racks anymore.

Do they they can't? There's no magazines. Why would you need a bathroom magazine rack? Billy, I can relate. We get every week we get a people magazine delivered. Still? Yeah, and I said to my wife the other day, do we subscribe to it? Why do we? And she's like, I don't know. I mean, just every week.

Lap of luxury at the Cody House. I don't know. Whatever it comes. Doesn't matter if we pay. Does anyone read it or what do you do with it? I leaf through it. Yeah? What's going on? What's going on with the Hemsworths right now? You know, I didn't leaf through the last one, but, you know.

Leaf through, I like that. Taylor Swift and Kelsey are on the cover. You know, I might give it a look. I don't know. All right. That kind of thing. Billy, what magazines did you subscribe to when you were younger? I think ESPN the magazine.

Sports Illustrated. Oh, for sure. As I for kids? I didn't have SI or SI for kids. How about highlights? You have highlights? You have highlights? When we were younger, we had highlights when we were younger.

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Hidden pictures I had Rolling Stone the longest I had Rolling Stone It was the last one that I didn't have anymore I had Rolling Stone forever I even had it

You know change the address to come to my college residence You know I had Rolling Stone forever And throughout my When I was a little kid And then into like mid teenage years I used to get WWF the magazine Those are the two

Wow You're such a mark You're getting worked in that magazine Whatever, man. I like reading about my favorite superstars. That's how you got tricked into writing Hulk Hogan a Getwell SuperCard. It wasn't a trick. Did you keep that letter? You still have it? I wish I still had it. It was a postcard.

I wish I still had it. He signed it and everything. Yeah, I mean, now I would think it's probably worth, you know, no one's getting more postcards from the Hulkster. Greg, earthquake put him in the hospital. Is that right? That piece of shit earthquake. Yeah, I don't know who the hell of... Oh, it wasn't a real earthquake. John Tenta.

Yeah. Oh, okay. It was before he killed Damien with the same move that he used to put Hogan in the hospital, killed Damien. Well, you'd think Damien would have been ready for it. Yeah. He was in a sack. He didn't know what was coming.

Yeah, at least see. What do you do now that you hit the roads down at the manor? What happens with the kids? I live in a mansion first of all, but go ahead. At the mansion, now that you're away, cats away, the mice will play. Last time we spoke to you, it seems like the mice were playing quite a bit. What did you say?

What? Yesterday. You were talking, the cat, you've never heard the expression when the cat's way, the mice will play? You're the cat, allegedly, according to you. Some are saying you're a mouse in the household where your kid is running roughshod, running away from home, gambling. It's kind of like when the enforcer's not there, you allege to be the enforcer of your home. When you're away, what happens?

Oh, so you're asking, like, who's in charge and I'm away? Well, I'm asking, yeah, if there's any control when you're away. Well, that's not for, that's not my concern. Like, I'm not there. Teenagers, running the roost. You know, like, all right, my wife's in charge for those couple of days that I'm, Not home for the week, and, you know, when dad comes home, everybody got to have the shit together. All right.

But while I'm gone, all right, you know, just don't let me hear about it. It's pretty much the way it goes. Okay. Yeah. Be it working for Cody. Teens running the roost. There you go. Don Lebertard.

Billy, somebody is written in here. I need way more. I'm sorry. I just said in his headset, haven't you been to all of them? too? It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad. Totally on me. That's 100% on me. Stugats.

But that goes without saying. Right. That it couldn't have. Well, now he said. He didn't. He didn't say it. He said it. He said it again. Greg. Greg. Greg. My apologies sincere. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. He apologized. Craig. Cerely. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugats.

So tomorrow the NBA releases its entire schedule. Full schedule, entire NBA schedule is being released tomorrow. But we did find out a couple days ago, I think it was yesterday, that the Christmas games, what are you doing over there? He keeps making fun of me that your mic is higher than mine. There you go. I was just saying before, like his mic is normal, at his face, and yours is just like, I need to talk way down here.

It's so ridiculous. The obsession with microphones. It's not ridiculous. There's no obsession. There's no obsession. It really is. We are a show. It's not an obsession.

It's actually a necessity. Is it? Yeah. Well, yeah. Are you questioning that? Whatever happened to the megaphone. Let's just get old-timey megaphones and, you know. Do what?

And do what with it? You know, football players need helmets. It's obsession with helmets in the NFL. They should, you know, it's like motorcycle. You want to wear a helmet? You wear a helmet. Yeah. If you don't, you don't.

No. No, no. It's like motorcycles. Do you want a motorcycle? You need a motorcycle. Yeah. Debatable. So a couple days ago, the NBA, ahead of its schedule, released tomorrow, they released their Christmas Day games. They got five Christmas to date games like usual. Let me all those go. The NFL's playing on Christmas. Well, and yes, the NFL has decided, you know, they pulled up last year the NFL, like Debo, and said, we're taking Christmas. All right. You're not in on all of the action on Christmas, Greg?

No, it's ridiculous. NBA now are competing to out Christmas the other. The only holiday where I love NFL games or pro games to watch on TV is Thanksgiving. Okay, that's a part of the ritual. Okay, you're timing the turkey so that it doesn't interrupt with the middle game that you really want, et cetera, and so forth. But on Christmas Day, to quote a phrase, Jesus Christ, I mean, you can't, whatever happened to Christmas, and don't get me wrong, I'm not super religious. I'm not. Like, I'm not going to church on Christmas, I'll tell you that. Relax.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Nobody goes to church on Christmas. You could just leave it at I'm not super religious. Okay, but even so, Christmas, when I'm growing up, you know, Christmas is, it's a holiday. You know, you revere the holiday, you watch the little kids open their gift. But so is Thanksgiving. It's a holiday. Yeah, Thanksgiving, you're eating and drinking a lot and watching football on TV.

It sounds like Christmas, too. Christmas used to be that, and now it's five NFL games. one or two, five or five NBA games, and three NFL games. You have eight games competing with each other from late morning until late at night. The Cody's are considering moving Christmas. Where's Christmas? Where's Christmas? You know, it's just too much. It's excessive. That's all I'm saying. But you don't have to watch the games.

I know, but, you know, they're on TV. I mean, you're a football fan. You're a Hoops fan. You got to watch it. Were you a Christmas Day or Christmas Eve family? Right. I thought, now look, I don't know if you guys know. I'm Jewish. I understand that Christmas, it's more about Christmas Eve. Like, that's the big partying and the dinner. And it feels like that's why neither of those sports play on Christmas Eve. I think it depends on the family.

Yeah, it does. Some people are Christmas Day people. I make a big dinner on Christmas Eve. I mean, to your point, it's a special day as well. I just think sports have gone over. Especially, it used to be the NFL-owned Christmas. Now the NBA in the past several years has been competing to the point where there are five. games now instead of three. It's just, it's too much. It's excessive. I didn't like the reported

slate for Christmas Day for the NBA. It should be noted while everyone was assuming that the NFL was going to totally take over Christmas, there was a nice little rating story for the NBA last year as the NFL went behind their Netflix paywall and whatnot. People were tuning in on cable and the ratings for the NBA did increase despite the extra competition. You got Cavaliers at Knicks. Fun game. Let me guess Lakers' maps. I haven't seen it. Are they playing?

Both those teams are playing, but not against each other. Cavaliers at Knicks, because the Knicks always have the noon game at Madison Square Garden. And then you got Spurs at Thunder. Fun game. Mavericks at Warriors. Fun game. Rockets at Lakers. Big game, not a big game.

That's a big game. That's a big game. And it's a big game, I agree. Durant. Dunchitch. LeBron. LeBron's second. Donchich's team.

And Timberwolves, Nuggets, that's a late game. Is there a bigger indictment? Like, we've talked a lot about the heat and how they're just kind of on the down tick. We haven't even sniffed a Christmas game in a few years. I mean, look at the Indiana Pacers. They made the finals. They don't get. But it's just like we used to be a, like, I felt like there was a good, there was a good, like, eight-year stretch where we were just one of those teams.

LeBron. LeBron. But he wasn't here eight years. And Shaq and Wade before that. But he just like. Played on Christmas in 2023. Yeah, but there were. Five years ago.

Was it to Milwaukee maybe? I think after the bubble, and they made the finals in the bubble, they didn't get a Christmas game that, yeah, recently, Post-Lebron, it's been kind of. I think if you can have five games on Christmas, one of them's got to be a stinker. You know, throw in Wizards against Jazz. Why? Why would you want a bad game? No, you do.

You toss in a stinker there so that you can enjoy the meal and enjoy the time. Like, this is one I need to casually pay attention to if at all. Give me a two-hour break. With Wizards and Jazz, and then you get back to the real game. I like this idea, and that should be Christmas morning. When people are opening their presents, they should add more games. It should be wall-to-wall. It should be like Boxing Day is for the Premier League.

You just go wall-to-wall. Can you just imagine what Greg just suggested on Christmas Day? The abomination of Wizards and Jazz. Just a bad idea. You're lying to me. He's right, though. You're lying to me if you're not putting that game on while you're unwrapping Christmas Day presents. the morning.

Yes, thank you. If there is an NBA game going on, it tips off at 7 a.m. Eastern time. You're asleep. I'm watching the Christmas morning. On Christmas morning? On Christmas morning? You guys are awake.

I got a 5-year-old. Oh, dude, you think you're going to wake up on Christmas moving forward? Right now, this Christmas? Probably like 9. Maybe you get one morning. This Christmas? A newborn since you're not a new born? You're retired?

You wake up at 9? What time do you wake up every day? Well, every day I wake up like. On weekends. weekends. On weekends. Saturday mornings, I wake up at 6.30, play hoops at seven. So why do you think you're going to wake up at 9? You're not going to do that. Because we have not your kids' first Christmas. If you think you're getting any rest on Christmas, you think we're having Christmas at our house? You think it's up to you?

Of course I do. They're just ding dong and the whole family is there. I'm not going to put up a tree. I think Tony, you're not putting up a tree on your kid's first Christmas. No, Tony's got a year. Taking a kid away from this family. Tony, you get one more year. The baby's so young right now, you have this year. But after this year. But after this year, 8 a.m. You're, like, in your house every morning. I don't think he has this year because while he may be playing it cool, Mama ain't.

Yeah, that's true. It's baby's first Christmas. To be honest, I'm a big fan of Christmas tree, so I will get the real Christmas tree. We'll get a real tree. You're about to get boss around on this holiday. I'm a real tree. But it seems as though maybe the in-laws are going to do Christmas, so everybody goes over there to celebrate Christmas.

We got nieces and nephews. We got other family. So it's like a giant thing over there. Not at my house. You're going to be awake in time for Jazz Wizards. I'm realizing now that I am so far ahead of you guys when it comes to the kids. And you're talking about what time you have to wake up on the weekends and what time, like, do you want to ask me when I wake up on the weekends? Ask me.

When you wake up? They don't care. Whenever I want. Whenever I want. I mean, your kids are just running around town. Yeah, they're doing whatever they're going to Chicago this weekend for UFC. Of course, me and Cody. Lawless.

You need the crap game early on, so if you get a TV for Christmas, you're setting it up and you don't really miss a time. But that's why you have Cavs and Knicks. That's why you have a bad game at the beginning. That's why the Knicks are always there. So you can quickly plug out and plug in. You need like a crap sandwich of games, like a bad first one, a bad last one. And then like in the middle is where you're like, okay, this is. That's where the crap is.

Well, then you got the NFL, Greg. Well, they did this wrong. How so? Well, because the first game is Cowboys Command. All three NFL games. If we're doing big game, not a big game, all three of these games. 815. All three big games?

I think so. Next one's the big one. Lions Vikings. Big game. Yeah. Now, the 815 Prime video now we're going on from Netflix over to Prime. We're switching channels, switching stations. Broncos chiefs.

Massive game. That is a massive game. That's a banger. Broncos is going to have to show us, though. I mean. By that point in the season, we're going to know if, If it's a big game or not a big game. Yeah, that's like week 17.

Yeah, week 17. Fight for a playoff spot. Everyone loves a Broncos is here, man. But it's too much for you, huh? They're an it team. And the Pats, the Pats everyone likes to. Yeah, but I would do the same thing with the NFL, you know, throw in a Brown's Titans game or something, you know,

just for a respite instead of three in a row. But, yeah, the combination of NBA and NFL eight games on Christmas Day is too much. It's simply overload. What would you do, Greg? for Thanksgiving, for Thanksgiving football games, because I feel like Thanksgiving games, the late game is the one that I'm always kind of. By that time... So it was Steelers Ravens. My energy... Well, last year was Dolphins, right? And it was a terrible game. I always picture it being an AFC North game. It was a really bad game for the

Dolphins. I think it was Dolphins. Packers. It was their worst game of the year. And it wasn't close. I heard the Big Dog talking about this morning like 20 miss tackles in that game. I think the money game is the middle one. I think the prime game on Thanksgiving is the middle one. The late one, you're already, like, my energy is already down. I'm tripped a fan or whatever it's called inside of me. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, I've been watching a dog show and then football and another football parade.

I can't anymore. No, by the late game, I've been hammering Jim Beam all day. You know, I'm not ready to watch three more hours. You don't drink. You don't drink, by the way. Tony, you see what this Thanksgiving slates? The slate is crazy. God?

Why did you say it? Green Bay at Detroit, big it. It's a whole new world with Detroit being good. It really changes the entire dynamic of that holiday. Yeah, not so funny now, the lions. Come on. 4.30, right when you're getting over to your family's house, you're going to start getting the turkey out, Kansas City, Dallas.

Yeah. Great, googly, moogly. Big game. That's big game. And then as you're winding down for the night, maybe you're getting that extra piece of pecan pie or pumpkin pie. Cincinnati, Baltimore. Templars have to lead up.

But Greg doesn't like it. Greg wants a stinker mixed in somewhere there. Do, you know. Those brown panthers. I mean, come on. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, saints. Throwing the saints.

Yeah. Somebody I don't want to see. That way I'm not obliged to watch. I can concentrate on my meal. I'm in the kitchen doing a turkey. I don't have to worry about the TV. You're in the garage barefoot. Well, that's true.

Can we put up that statue, by the way? A.Satue out of that one. It's ridiculous. AI made a statue of my dad. It's recreating the photo of him out in the, parking garage frying a turkey barefoot. Is this like jumping off the Tom Brady statue? It looks. Oh, look at that. I mean, it's got a poppy face.

It looks like poppy. If you really zoom in, the face has poppy vibes, but it's, I mean, it's clearly barefoot. It's clearly that photo. I mean, it's your... And you've got the, you're frying the turkey. No, that looks. Oh, wow, you know what? It's the eyebrow, yeah. That really does look like Poppy. People's eyebrow there. That is, uh, that's a dead ringer for Poppy. I think that's Lyndon B. Johnson. It's Dwayne Wade statue-esque, where it's like every detail about it outside of the face is perfect, but the face kind of throws you up.

What about the toenails? That is one thing pointed out that it's the, my dad's toenails are, yeah, these are kept. Actually, I'm looking down at that toenails? No, long enough. Yeah. Because that'd be hell of an attention. By the way, look at those calves on that. Boy, you're in great shoes.

Wait, you know what I work out. Let me see your stand up over there. Let's see it those real calves. I got a long pants on You can pull them up You got nice calves They always surprise me Whenever you're in shorts

Pull a calf up Look at that It's like Boog Shambi Let's see if he can pull a calf up here I'm glad you laugh Boog Shambi's got the craziest Massive calves As I used to produce Boog Shambi

He can tell you stories about those calves And that they're big All the stories are he's just I mean those are old people's shoes But yeah the calves are nice Kind of petered out I don't I was like you can tell you stories about those calves

Like what Caves got a student loan one time He's got big kids Cavs. All right. It's the end the story. I'll leave a whole lot more to that right there. Great calves, though. Thank you very much. Your calves look more... I was talking about boo. Yours looked more impressive in the statue.

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