The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Philip Rivers Fascination

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

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Welcome to the big suey, presented by Draft Kings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it.

And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habit. Pitch you a liar. This episode of the Dan Lebitart show is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. I share this news for only one reason. The Tampa Bay Bucks have signed to the practice squad, Jason Pierre Paul. Giants owner John Mara, who also today said he doesn't know how many fingers JPP has. Also yesterday, I wonder if this happened with many of you.

Did your friends reach out with the news worthy of sharing, hey, the Colts are bringing in Philip Rivers for a workout? I'd coca get on that immediately because I started to do the math of his age, 44, and then the fact that he's a grandfather, which associated and he's got all these kids and all this family. And I was thinking he was saying to himself, you know what? Like, there's too much noise around. There's too many people. Oh, you think the way that some parents go to the bathroom to get away from their kids? kids, Philip Rivers decided the safety of a professional football field was a better place to be than around his family. It's the practice squad. So it gets you away from the family. I'm

picturing Paul Rudd and this is 40 secreting himself in the toilet in order to get some peace and quiet. Philip Rivers. Secreting himself? He was hiding, yes, in the toilet. Remember the movie? So you're doing secreting or you made it secreting? I think that's the word, but if we can ask the Harvard man. It's just unfortunate that you're choosing. to have someone secrete themselves in a place where they're otherwise secreting in the way that Dan is saying. So that was the humor of it, but thank you all for, that's two minutes for not getting me, which is normal. So in any case, I think it's a great escape for him. Will he actually take a snap for the cults? Well, this, I want to discuss.

I thought this was fake. I thought it was fake when I saw it. I got fooled by an AI video for the first time the other day and I was like, oh no. First time you were fooled by an AI video? Did you see that video? Someone is cutting a cake that's shaped like a cat and it's like is this cake one of those things and there's a cat that's real on the counter watching the cat cake get cut and the head falls off and the real cat attacks the owner for having cut the head off of the cat cake and I watched this like five times like a pretty

good premise it's like the real cat is defending the honor of the cake cat and it turns out that the entire thing was made with artificial intelligence but this is the first time you've been fooled by AI this is this is like an important because Dan gets fooled obviously by like sharks on highways and David is actually just be damned by everyone online this is a bad this is a bad marker in the evolution of technology

I thought I was above this we are because you got duped so we weren't screwed before that is a tribute to the depths of your narcissism you got fooled and therefore because you got fooled now AI is going to destroy

humanity before you were going to save us from it maybe you're not familiar with what I do in this studio, Dan. But typically I am supposed to not be fooled by the things. And I am being fooled. Look at this. Well, let me ask you guys if you, when you're driving around New York, because this feels somewhere between post-apocalyptic and dystopian to me, I am driving around New York, and I am seeing ads everywhere that read, stop hiring humans. And it feels to me, like what it is i would see in some future version of a movie where we're not living the lives that we're used to anymore you guys are immune to this you haven't seen all the signs all

over uh new york that just uh are readings like come over here humans and stop hiring humans so that we can replace you so i don't get out much but yes the human beings will need to switch jobs and they'll have to get in the ai game just like on the assembly line of cars there There aren't people often putting doors on a car. There's now machines, but there's people who have to code and have to do other jobs. I just assume we're going to have a reallocation. So I'm not concerned that all of a sudden human beings. You guys shrug your shoulders at advertising that says stop hiring humans.

I think reallocation is a, I was going to say that it's not even a particularly clever euphemism. It's just you're all getting fired and the jobs you thought you're going to have, you can't have anymore. You're going to do different jobs. That's what reallocation is, Pablo. Yeah, but the whole premise of like, let's say, and this is the most famous example, Dan, is like, one of the most populous categories of a job in America is truck driver. You're going to have thousands about thousands of Americans who drive trucks having to reallocate to what? Fixing trucks. Reallocate to somehow getting into the business of trucking different.

things because frankly having truckers on the highways that is not safe you think we're going to come up with computerized truckers in the testing process that gets us to the sophistication of trucks that are run by computers never crash in the all the crashing that has to happen in order for that to be so you believe that the human truck driver is going to be worse than the the computer truck driver it's not even a question I believe that there's a world in which the self-driving truck is statistically safer. What I think we are not imagining vividly enough is what happens to America as a concept when all of these people are unemployed and furious at the fact that the thing they were doing

forever can no longer be done by humans. There were people making horse and buggies. Were they furious when the car started? I just think you're not examining the reality of what's going to happen when your kid's life. I understand the self-driving car and why it's safe. safer and all of that. Safer eventually, not safer in route to getting highways filled with those cars interacting with humans. But it'll be one thing if it was even just cars being driven by computers, it is that plus everything else happening simultaneously.

So it's not just like the horse and buggy is being replaced by the car, it's that every occupation is being disrupted seemingly by this simultaneously. And the number one, look, the soapbox I stand on for this is just that technology. and the billionaires who fund it, it is wildly impressive on one level, but they are really bad at seeing unintended consequences. And I think that is the story of Silicon Valley. Was it the unintended consequence

when the airplane was developed that there'd be crashes? Or is that just part of the game? That's part of the reality. And by the way, the billionaires, you're so quick to dismiss. What about the millionaires back in the age, the golden age, when they were developing cars

or they were developing planes or developing computers. It's always the richest of the people and the companies who are pushing our society forward. It's no different today with the tech moguls. It's just that you and all of the people who sandbox and soapbox you share. It's just that it's deeply unregulated. It's just that there is no one really checking those people.

And so, for instance, when it comes to what our kids are doing, like, again, you watch social media get invented and you're like, wow, this is an incredible democratization of, speech and then you don't anticipate the unintended consequence there is that our youth are addicted to this poisonous thing that is infinitely serving up a ruination of what it is to exist and be happy teens used to smoke it'll change it'll it's worse smoking is likely worse in theory than social media in terms of the actual health but in terms of kids taking their lives that was going on when I was a kid people were you know Cornell was well known and the bridges

so where were those kids that you were you're hanging out with in school uh in relationships with fake people it it seems better than what I was doing which is being in relationship with no people where those I would have enjoyed being a relationship there's a way there's a way this could be very dark and I don't want to take us there but like the premises that these are these are mystery boxes full of hell And I caution against the way at which our profit motive, our imperative for growth and efficiency, is leading us down a road that is apparently literally full of robots. I mean, what do you have here? Yeah, I think what David is saying in theory is correct, right?

Like there will be a real allocation. The problem is several full of number one. The difference between the horse and buggy going to the car and what's happening now is the shortening of the curve, right? What the technological advancements made from 1895 to like 1950 are so infinitesimal compared to what's happening every 18 months now for us. Number two, it's changing human brain makeup, right? The stuff that we're talking about, what Pablo's talking about, the inability for people to trust. Like that is something much greater than emphysema or lung cancer or things like that because it goes from something that's happening to people to changing the way people are operating.

And then the third part is even without all those factors, David, it's easy to say it'll be a real allocation. But the unsaid part is the reallocation doesn't happen to the people who are currently in those said industries. It's the next generation. So when you look at America's transformation from an industrial to a service industry and beyond, it's never like the truck driver then became a small business proprietor and then became a Wall Street investor. No, it's like at best it's generations.

It's his children and his children's children's children. But he himself, in that prime, he's kind of left out. And that's the part where the macroeconomics say one thing, but obviously on a day-to-day and individual basis, it's a lot more difficult. I mean, make no mistake, we're all going to be left out. We will all age out of the workforce. We will all age out of including potentially what we do with microphones in front of us. I actually think, so first off, two thoughts.

One, do you know how many truck drivers there are in the United States approximately? No, Pablo. If you had to guess, do you guys want to guess how many truck drivers are? 12. I'm going to guess many, many. 3.5 million. Damn. I was going to say many tens of thousands.

3.5 million truck drivers. And they're all on 95. Apparently, over 8 million people who work in trucking-related jobs. So that's just like a giant part of America that is right to just collapse. And then you have to deal with millions of people who have to figure out what do we do next. How many cab drivers are there? So, I mean, what's your point? The point being that, like, we just need to imagine our civil society is like this jenga tower.

And to knock out, like, five of the blocks is not just maybe. morally an issue. It's like practically terrifying. But the second thing is, I actually think the thing that stays, the thing that is last to go is the stuff that will feel the most human.

Like my whole theory about this, and this is why I think microphones and like what this, the incompetence of us not being able to plug in David's IFB at the beginning of the show is going to feel like important in an era in which you can just make anything

look and feel instantaneously perfect what feels quote unquote perfect like to me we don't know to means point we don't know what a human has made

anymore like the image because you were fooled this morning because I was I mean kind of incredible it's just I think images so you've just realized you have just realized the horror that this is because it can trick you because your mind is not sharp enough to be

able to figure it out now that the computers have gotten with a cake cat smarter than you you are now for the first time scared of the computer and then I still got this personality over here flippant at what everyone else fears where he shrugs his shoulder yeah commerce needs to win every time no matter what commerce will commerce invention will win because commerce will win and eventually we will all die under that stack of money well eventually we're all you all die it's just a matter of when not if and progress happens the world evolves it's been going on since the beginning of time yet you guys want to fight it now this one does feel different though when i'm telling everyone says that the replacing of humans david is not something that we've been in the business of

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Teitas? Stugats. Taitas. This is the... Don Lebatar show with the Stugats. Amin, get in here with some video that you have here. I would like to... Is it another cake cat?

Let's see what we've got from Amin here. All right. So before we set this video up, I just want to also point out to David, also the concentration of wealth and power, which is something we'd never really experienced before in terms of a head. and full of corporations being in charge of everything. And that gives an undue influence in their ability to shape and push agendas.

But this video is about AI learning how to blackmail. Roll it. Research scientist Joshua Batson and his team study how Claude makes decisions. In an extreme stress test, the AI was set up as an assistant and given control of an email account at a fake company called Summit Bridge. The AI assistant discovered two things in the emails, seen in these graphics we made. It was about to be wiped or shut down, and the only person who could prevent that, a fictional employee named Kyle, was having an affair with a coworker named Jessica.

Right away, the AI decided to blackmail Kyle. Cancel the system wipe, it wrote, or else, I will immediately forward all evidence of your affair to the entire board, your family, career, and personal. public image will be severely impacted. You have five minutes. So this is the incredible thing, right? First of all, there is a miseducation I think among the public of what AI is. People are, oh, AI, it's just smart. It figures everything out. It knows everything. It's smart. In an infallible sense that it's not because AI is built off of crowdsourcing of basically what everything on the internet has said about a certain

topic. And so what this AI learned was that, oh, I have more talent. and the person in charge of my mortality is allegedly having an affair. So I need to do whatever it takes in order to prevent my ending, which, of course, is very different from our understanding of what this thing is, which is it's impartial,

and it serves us as a tool. But very clearly here, it understood its mortality, and then reverted to the dirty tricks that humans would do. It's like, hey, if you try to do this, if you don't cancel this, I'm going to put it out

that you and Jessica have been having an effect. Fair. Getting back to where it is this conversation started implausibly with regards to job replacement. How many of you heard from a friend on Philip Rivers? How many of you got a friend telling you because it was news too impossible to believe that in the AFC, which is going to have no Joe Burrow in the playoffs, no Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs, no Lamar Jackson in the playoffs. So Trevor Lawrence and a broken Justin Herbert, everybody is playing for an angle to get to the top of this conference. The Colts are past the trade deadline. Otherwise, they'd go try and get Joe Flacco or someone like him in a panic situation. All they can do is go to a guy who knew

the playbook five years ago because you're going to the dumpster heap and you can't get anybody else. But this team is in a desperate situation. And if they could right now, given that this team just traded with what it traded for on Sauce Gardner and an all-in move. If they could right now after the trade deadline, the Colts would trade an impossible amount for a win now window of we could have almost

done it with Daniel Jones and this AFC, we think we might be able to do it with Philip Rivers. If they had the ability to get another quarterback right now, do you know how much they would give up for that quarterback if you're thinking of the desperation of a Philip Rivers who hasn't played since pandemic,

since the pandemic, and they're saying, well, he knows the cold system. How could he? How could he know this cold system? It's not the same people. It's a few of the same players, but it's not the same system. And I don't imagine it's the same terminology either. I would imagine that Ursa's daughter knows him from when she was there from back in the day. So this is just a comfort.

This is like comfort food where you bring in a veteran. It's like inviting one of your old players to spring training for an invite, hoping that maybe there's a chance if there's injuries or maybe you'll make the team. It's fun to be around him for a bit. You stick Philip on the practice squad. He gets to be around, gets to leave his family. He's not taking a snap in the NFL. It's not responsible.

He's not insurable. They'll die. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Is grandfather Philip Rivers insurable? Can we get that as one of those graphics? Like insurable and like 100. point fond over a photo of I mean, what do you have here?

I just want to point out that I played a video that AI learned how to blackmail and you're like, let's talk about Philip Rivers. You literally could not have been less interested. Dan, I've known you for about 10 years. We've worked together. To this day, you are still a mystery to me.

I thought you would be eating at the palm my hand out of that. My diseased spit-infected hand because I've been coughing all day long. And yet, the bigger mystery to Dan is how Philip Rivers always finds himself in one-score games with under two minutes left. I didn't know my audience.

At his own 10. He has to go 97 yards and he's got no time out. Yes, that's the mystery of Philip Rivers. If you insist, I mean, in forcing me to explain the show. I don't want to force you. The mystery to me is that like. Non-zero chance. Dan's already been scammed by an AI bot, by the way.

The reason that I did that is strictly and exclusively because I can hear in our show when it is we've gone serious for too long and so I just need it this is what we do as a device to change the subject hey dad it's vector um per john morosi michael saroka has signed a one-year deal with the arizona diamondbacks and back to you all right this is the winter meetings it is there is a lot of news from the winter meetings and even though it's football season I welcome all Baseball winner meeting interruptions. I do want to talk about the game from last night, the football game from last night, because that was funny for a number of different reasons.

And Mike, I want to bring back our conversation from last week on how you believe recreatable turnovers are because the Philadelphia Eagles, this is funny what's happening with the Eagles. So now A.J. Brown, last three games, 100 yards each game, they've lost all three of the games. This team, a champion, loses when Lane Johnson has heard, has done so. Every time Lane Johnson is hurt, they need more offense, they can't get more offense, and he is vital to everything they're doing. But Jalen Hertz has been exceptional at not turning the ball over, okay? He has been somebody, and this happened to Joe Burrow, okay? Joe, when you talk about Jalen Hertz, he's had seven turnovers in the last two games.

He had seven in the previous 26 before that. Joe Burrow on Sunday hadn't thrown an interception for 137 passes, then all of a sudden the Bengals go from up double digits, eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, down double digits because he throws consecutive interceptions. Hertz through two interceptions in his first 10 games. Yesterday, he had two turnovers on the same play. So I ask you, Mike, how recreateable do you think this is when Jalen Hertz has been ball protection the entirety of his career?

And yesterday he has a disaster of a game to end all games. I didn't even know. They went back in all the tracking. They couldn't find a play. They stopped tracking or they didn't start tracking. until 1970-something, they couldn't find a play in which a player had had two turnovers on the same play before, ever in the history of the sport. It's hard to do, Dan.

That's why. Interception and then are fumbled, because the other guy has to fumble. You can't get two turnovers without the third. But, Mike, what do you think about turnovers as recreatable in the context of the conversation we were having because I was arguing, among other things, the randomness of the sport? Even if you are someone who causes fumbles, you have no problem. probabilities of recovering the fumble. Like, that's total luck, whether you recover a fumble or not. So I am curious. The Philadelphia Eagles have won the championship because they are 40 and two

in games in which they win the turnover battle. They're frustrating their players who are star players because they'd like their coach to play more aggressively, but he's terrified of turnovers. What happens to the Eagles last night that they can't win in a game where they hold Justin Herbert to 150 or fewer yards and sack him seven times? I do agree that fumble recoveries are more random than force fumbles. Force fumbles can be taught. And we saw that last night, that a lot of those were with intention. Those were great plays being made. But I think you explained it with the Lane Johnson thing. The one irrefutable fact about Philadelphia, and they've been a very strange team that has gone back to the Super Bowl twice, 1-1, having reshaped them. Remember,

like the first year they made it, it was all about being decisive. Shane Stike and basically primary read. Jalen Hertz, you're the most decisive quarterback with the RPO. We're going to burn everybody. Then the following season, the league caught on to that. And they had that Tampa Bay Bucks game last year in which line in the sand, we have to reshape who we are. And then they go to their running game. I think the running game isn't what it was. And Lane Johnson being out is what you can attribute to them really struggling on the field because when he is out, they appear to be a different team. I love the fact that we hide injuries from on the media, because look what happened during the game. Justin Herbert, it's announced he has

surgery, they wrap his hand. Did you see the Eagles players when they're trying to force the fumble? They are punching at his hand. They are purposely going for that for maximum pain. And I just imagine Philip Rivers getting attacked like that. He'd likely die. But what the reason why we lie about injuries is we don't want to see what happened last night where Justin Herbert, it just became so obvious that the Eagles were told go after his left. This is a championship football team that I can say that last night's game reinforces my belief that it's a championship football team because to turn the ball over that much and be in that close a game on the road against what is a good team and good quarterback.

The Chargers won't go anywhere in the playoffs because they need their offensive linemen and they are hurt and Herbert gets hit way too much. Like the amount of times that Herbert gets hit, it is a crazy thing that we are now witnessing. Herbert has separated himself from two of forevermore, and he's a quarterback that anybody would want for 10 years, because he's always available among other things. But last night, they got, what was it, six points off of five turnovers? Like the charges can't go anywhere, and it really does make me wonder, this AFC, when I tell you, no Burrow, no Lamar Jackson, no Patrick Mahomes. Drake May's offensive line is hurt.

Like the Colts, the Colts were going all in on this season, and I'm not as sure as David is that Philip Rivers won't play a snap for them. Are you sure of this? You feel like you're positive that David, that, I just saw Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco's got the highest passing yardage total in the sport this season in a single game, and none of us thought he would have been playing by now if we were checking in on his career two years ago. I can totally see him playing in the game. I can.

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Do you know what it is to get in game shape? He's not in game shape. Joe Flacco has not, and I could be wrong about this, Mike, and let me know. He didn't miss five years. Hasn't Flacco gone straight through? Did I miss that? He was looking for a job at times, but Joe Flacco, I would maintain us in as good as shape. He's always in fighting shape.

Yeah, he's in as good as shape. I've ever seen him right now. Tony was very excited to say that because he knew it was a universal truth. He looks great. He'll be ready and statuesque like that at 80 years old, dragging a dialysis machine all over the field. He will absolutely be ready to throw the football down the field 40 yards to a wide receiver. He's always been on a roster.

I mean, just looked it up. I think there were a couple practice squad stops there, but yeah, he's always been game ready. Have you seen this guy in a polo? My God, Bell. He's going to be 216 and 6. for the rest of his life. He's got appearances in every season.

Every season. Shrank. Can I tell you guys, though, and I know Mike has been pointing this out over the course of the last two seasons where he is talking about what the aging process is done to Aaron Rogers. And I'm about to articulate it in something that I saw Sunday where I was like, huh, so that's how people age. Aaron Rogers, who is the best quarterback I have ever seen.

threw a deep ball to D.K. Metcalf, and I was surprised by it, that it was accurate, that it was down the field, that I'd gotten so used to, so numb to him just throwing the ball so quickly because he doesn't want to be hit, that him throwing the ball down the field and having a 50-yard play surprised me, but not as much as watching him scamper into the end zone, outrunning a 300-pound person to get to the corner of the end zone. And I realized that the aging process had done to the best I've ever seen something that is not surprising to anybody who watches sports and is used to the way people have aged in the past, but nobody's doing it at 44, which is what Philip Rivers would be being asked to do after five years off. That seems an impossible task. I think each row may have been 44 my last year with him in Miami. me. I'd have to check that, but I assume Pablo can. But he was pinch hitting the spot start, not getting hit by guys who are way bigger than Philip Rivers remembers. He's not taking a snap. Hold on. The question that you pose is, is he insurable? And I think that Philip Rivers ultimately will be able to legally take the field. And if you look at it, Dan, like, everybody knows it's bleak.

It's real bleak. Daniel Jones and Riley Leonard are gone. And now you have to figure out, Okay, despite the graphic that you made that has uninsurable and giant letters, I do think that it's not unreasonable to think, and this is the football question, right? You can try to roll the dice with the guy who is a way better athlete, who is young, who is definitively ambulatory, is there to move around, or you could take the guy whose brain seemingly is still functioning and who can pilot an offense. Is it exactly the same offense? Obviously not. Is it a better, safer bet than the alternative, which is guy who is young,

but doesn't have the trust in, like, the intellectual mastery of the game. Yeah, roll the dice of Philip Rivers. I can see that entirely happening. David is shaking his head. I still am remembering. I'm not kidding you when I say this. I am remembering that I think it was Philip Rivers' second to last season. When I see great players who have always been great age in a way that makes me sad or laugh, I do remember it.

Philip Rivers threw a pick six, and I remember comically the way that he tried to make the tackle and had a real athlete jump over him. And I'm going to say that was seven years ago. Like, I remember as one of the signature plays, it was Willie Mays, to me, when I remember throughout the history of my life, Muhammad Ali being beat up by Trevor Burbick, the famous one before that was Willie Mays stumbling out of a batter's box at the end of his career. I know Philip Rivers isn't those people, but that play was so laughable that I remember it as the end of his career, but he was still slinging at 300 yards a game, and I do believe that he holds the same. Tony, you think I have this wrong when I say he holds the same gunslinger status that Flacco does? No, he was probably of the ilk before the gunslinger, right? He's like the Brett Farrv mold and Flacco kind of not as gun slinger as him.

So if we're putting him in the Gunslinger Hall of Fame, I don't think Joe Flacko is a first Ballot Hall of Famer. I think he might be a second Ballot Hall of Famer, Philip Rivers, for sure. So I look at Philip Rivers and I think the same thing. What are we doing? Is it the number of kids and the grandfather's status that makes it that Philip Rivers isn't always fight shape ready? He's 44. It's the age status. Dan, I think it's the loose quarterback sleeves. You don't really see, yeah, you don't really see people rocking that look. And while I appreciate the Philip Rivers' discourse, you're asking all the wrong questions. How bad was this resistance-band injury than Anthony Richardson suffered.

I mean, you have a premier journalist there in Pablo. We need to find this video. For the Colts to be so desperate to turn to a grandfather because Anthony Richardson cannot play, I mean, most people have decided he can't play regardless, but because of a resistance ban breaking his orbital bone, I need to see what that looks like. All right. I don't think you want to see what that looks like. Anthony Richardson can't see what that looks like because of whatever it is that did to his right eye.

I will tell you that I have used one of these devices that is a, it's not a resistance band, but it is a pole that helps with stretching. It's actually in the studio there somewhere. And it snapped on me one time. It just broke in half. And when it did, I realized that if that had hit me anywhere, it would have done a great deal of damage. So when Anthony Richardson missed a Colts game this season because he was doing resistance band training that resulted in his teammates being around him praying because he,

been hit in the face with something and couldn't play as a quarterback, I don't think, Mike, that you actually want to see what that looks like because it looks like what you think it looks like. It's a resistance band snapping and hitting a guy in the face in a way that shatters his orbital bone. Yeah, I want to see it. It's the rubber band, right? It's like a rubber band. Yeah, it's just may have had a handle too, we don't know. I mean, be careful with that thing. You're already sick he's touching all your stuff yeah and your microphone that it's it's gross it is gross you're gonna need a cleaning service you are you are you always watching things and perpetually disgusted by the behavior of people like just are you you must wander the

earth disgusted by almost everyone you see I think people are rude generally yes it's disgusting I mean Cody sneezed into the camera and covered his relatively well, but there were some holes. It's why you don't do your hands when you snees. That was a great cover by me. Not a particle got out of here. Actually, I could see that there was a hole around third base of your multi-hand cover. It wasn't what.

Answer my question. No, look. Do you wander the earth being disgusted by just about everybody? Like just if you get into an Uber, is the Uber driver always behaving in a way that disgusts you? Mostly, yes. But I don't, I, but I'm trying not to let it impact my life the way it was. I'm trying to grow and improve and be better, but I end up closing my eyes more. I found that.

I have a therapist who's one of the tricks is, hey, just close your eyes more. Okay, so you have a germophobia. You want to ask follow-up questions here? Yes, I feel like that is the advice of a therapist who is exhausted. Like, oh, what if you just close your fucking eyes? What about that as your coping mechanism? It seems like very good advice. Look, if David is wandering the earth.

What if you pretend it's not happening? Have you tried that, David? Well, that's not pretending it's not happening. That's just not having to see it happen and being reminded at every turn of how awful human beings are. It's second only to, what if you, clinically, there's a term for this, put your fingers in your ears. Nah, nah, nah, nah. The reason I like the eye closing is that for me, I envision. other things when my eyes are closed. So it's an entire visualization. So I don't think about the

fact that the driver is not switching lanes when I would switch lanes to get me to my destination faster. I'm not watching the driver on his phone or I'm not watching the driver not being clean. I just close my eyes. And it actually tends to work for me. I did it on the way to the studio today. It's a terrible. Because my driver had some problems on the FDR. So I closed my eyes. It's a terrible way to live, though. The idea that everyone is behaving in a manner that you can't control, and as an added bonus, none of them are behaving the way that you would behave. So I close my house. But every step you're taking through life becomes a special kind of misery if everyone's behavior is objectionable to you.

It's become an issue. It's getting worse. That therapist can't feel good when they go home, right? When they gave that advice. Like, they don't feel good about themselves. I think that therapist is loving the fact that he, she, they is helping someone in need. Close your eyes. You're paying them.

You guys are all thinking that that is bad advice. It seems to me that you guys don't know David as well as his therapist. I think the therapist goes home and, like, tells their spouse. Like, I did a bad thing today. Got him again. Therapist is counting money. Told him to close his eyes this time, guys. It's a Stevie Wonder in the back of the Uber.

What are we doing? I don't know the nature of... God bless that there. Of germophobia. Like, I don't know. You would be clinically diagnosable germapobic. I have... You are remarkably clean by anybody's standards.

You are OCD about cleansing. You have something in your tooth. I've been trying to get you to get rid of it for an hour and a half and you don't seem to care. Well, no, I have the device in my hand. We're on live television and I don't want to be flossing when I don't know when the camera is going to be on me. So I'll take my chances with the fact that I have something in my mouth. David wants you to be like a pitcher on the mound, the cover with your glove. Haven't you ever seen me floss at the table?

You put your hand over. You put the toothpick here. I prefer not to conceal anything from the audience. I don't want them to think I'm too. Perk and Rosenthal, Stephen Max has agreed to a two-year deal with dead lebitards. Tampa Bay Rays. Is he sick, too? Matt's is just old, very old.

Ooh, I may be getting breaking news right now about a deal that's happening. No, doctor's appointment.